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Liz Loh-Taylor's avatar

Caitlin, I’ve felt so sick at that piece of news. This lunatic will likely do as he says or as the Zionists have instructed. All they wanted all along even though these evil bastards went ahead an murdered tens of thousands of people anyway! What can us people do?? We cannot let this happen and while we all think we are individually unimpactful, as a collective surely we can be! We cannot let these devils do as they wish or humanity is gone!

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Paula's avatar

There's a lawsuit on the docks called Taxpayers Against Genocide.

Tax Payers Against Genocide <tkanaana@6294557.brevosend.com>

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Yes, get together with people in your Congressional district and sue them for spending our tax dollars illegally. Watch and learn: Taxpayers Against Genocide Webinar #1 https://youtu.be/7H_tUu1WIKo?si=QhdOs46yPoSuHHru

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

TRC - I recommend understanding how taxation works (and what purposes it serves). Please check out MMT (modern monetary theory).

TAX revenue is NOT USED for ANY SPENDING by the US Federal Government (though state and local governments DO NEED the tax revenue - but they don't pay for wars, the Federal Govt. does).

This "Taxpayers Against Genocide" campaign is not only useless, it is counterproductive -> as TAXES ARE NOT USED for Federal Govt. spending (on anything).

(1) The Deficit Myth: Modern Monetary Theory and the Birth of the People's Economy [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45731395-the-deficit-myth]

(2) Modern Monetary Theory and the Changing Role of Tax in Society [https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-policy-and-society/article/modern-monetary-theory-and-the-changing-role-of-tax-in-society/B7A8B0C7C80C8F7E38D20BE4F5099C83]

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

You are right to call attention to the fact that the taxes are always less than government spending - Milton Freidman said that there is no such thing as an unbalanced budget because we pay for it all - it is total government spending which is what is the most important thing to watch (again Friedman) - and the total comes from

1. Government borrowing - via Bond markets and the central banks

2. Taxation -

The sad reality is that all money in the system worldwide today is either central bankers cash, or credit created by banks, both of which create money that is DEBT + INTEREST - and literally steals all the wealth and transfers it to the PRIVATE OWNERS of the Money Monopoly - the International Money (bankers) Cartel - that's the sad reality.

So we are DEBT SLAVES, TAX SLAVES and most of us are WAGE SLAVES - which is why 1% of the world has 50% of the wealth and 10% at the top has another 40% and the bottom 90% has just 10% - with the bottom 55% having just 1.3%

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Milton Freidman said that there is no such thing as an unbalanced budget because we pay for it all"

No Ivan - Milton Friedman is WRONG (more likely lying). The Govt. DOESN'T NEED to balance its budget like households do. The Fed Govt. CREATES/PRINTS the money (that it has sovereign control over). It can NEVER run out of US Dollars - and hence there is NO NEED to balance budgets. (What you see in Congress is political theatre and lack of knowledge about how the US Financial system works).

I don't think you are familiar with how MMT works. The Govt. DOESN'T NEED to borrow (i.e. issue DEBT) to spend money. It can print it by changing ledger entries in the Fed Reserve electronic account books.

The reason the Govt. issues DEBT (i.e. bonds, etc.) is to control inflation - by sucking up excess private money (i.e. non-public govt. money) so that that money does not cause inflation (in either asset prices or normal consumer inflation).

The US Govt. doesn't sell debt because it needs the money (why would it need anyone else to give it money when it can print all the money it ever needs?). Similarly, ONE of the reasons for Federal Taxes is to control inflation by limiting the money supply in the private (i.e. non-govt.) sector.

This is IMPORTANT - and is the best part of MMT -> The Federal Govt. DOESN'T NEED to watch its spending (other that making sure inflation does not arise). It needs to watch INFLATION. Inflation is the danger - and the Govt. can spend as much as it needs as long as it can control inflation. The so-called constrains on spending is a MYTH. Yes, I know this is hard to believe - hence I suggest reading up on MMT to understand HOW the system works.

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

Ah Chang,

First of all Friedman was making a simple point that I think you may have missed - that no matter what the Federal Government's budget is the taxpayers ultimately pay for it in debt, interest payments, and taxes to service it.

Secondly, you are sadly MISTAKEN - the 'Federal government' DOES NOT PRINT MONEY - the Federal Reserve does the printing, and this institution is NOT OWNED, nor is it CONTROLLED by the Federal Government - it is not FEDERAL and it has no RESERVES - it is a PRIVATELY OWNED CENTRAL BANK that by the miracle and treachery of the 1913 Federal Reserve Act is ABOVE THE US CONGRESS and takes NO INSTRUCTION from the government or the president or anyone else as numerous governors of the Fed, especially Alan Greenspan arrogantly made clear.

The American 'Federal Government' has NO SOVEREIGN CONTROL of the American Dollar. NONE. NADA. NOTHING. Can I be more clear? Do a little bit more reading and research and perhaps you will begin to fathom how much you, as I assume you are American as you are so invested in trying to tell me that I am WRONG - but I am here to tell you that you are the one on this issue that is MISTAKEN.

And the reason the government issues DEBT is not to control inflation - it is to CREATE DEBT SLAVERY FOR THE TAXPAYERS - because the PRIVATE OWNERS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ROB YOU ALL WITH THIS DEBT AND INTEREST.

Hello!!!!!

Inflation is NOT THE KEY DANGER.

It is DEBT. INTEREST. And the UNSUSTAINABILITY of that DEBT.

And uncontrolled MONEY PRINTING by the Fed. and its partners in the worldwide Central Banks Cartel.

You are repeating the propaganda from western economics.

I suggest you do some serious study on the CENTRAL BANKING CARTEL THAT RUNS THE WORLD TODAY - and wake up, unless of course you are simply a USEFUL IDIOT and a TROLL that comes into the discussion to DISRUPT the DISCUSSION.

It'll be interesting to see your reply - I don't wish you ill Chang, unless of course you fall into the last category just mentioned.

If you are stuck in the MIND CONTROL MATRIX of western disinformation about economics perhaps some of my points might help to shock you out of it, and start asking questions and seek the truth instead of helping the robber barons that run our lives to continue to rob us all.

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martin's avatar

i suggest you don't buzz kill a way of organizing protest without providing a viable alternative.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Martin, here are some MORE resources for you to check out ->

(1) The Treasury admit that tax does not fund government spending – as modern monetary theory suggests (https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018/07/25/the-treasury-admit-that-tax-does-not-fund-government-spending-as-modern-monetary-theory-suggests/)

(2) The Myth of Taxpayer Money (https://www.thecrimson.com/column/a-time-for-new-ideas/article/2020/3/18/gilbert-myth-of-taxpayer-money/)

(3) WHAT ARE TAXES FOR? THE MMT APPROACH (https://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/05/taxes-mmt-approach.html)

(4) MMT: Taxes do not fund government spending (https://www.mmt.works/mmt-taxes-do-not-fund-government-spending/)

(5) Tax does not pay for government spending (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnYhGD7xNig)

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martin's avatar

will those resources be used by the courts to reject the lawsuit or rule in favor of the government? i assume the people filing the lawsuit checked with their lawyers if they have a case and that those lawyers thought it was feasible.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I suggest reading up on how MMT works and how REAL-LIFE US finance works.

Why don't such "organizing protests like the taxation one work"? Because they are based on myths, fictions, and a lack of understanding of how different systems work. They are a waste of time, effort, and energy because they are attacking the wrong target with the wrong solutions.

Taxation DOES NOT pay for ANY spending by the US Federal Govt. (Yes, this is the MYTH you can dismantle by learning about MMT). So what sense does it make to fight "taxation's role in Genocide" when taxation has NOTHING to do with the Genocide?

But by all means, go ahead and waste whatever little resources people have on non-workable solutions (if that tickles your fancy).

Here's one solution: Understand HOW the system really works - so that you have the power (and knowledge) to challenge the "power elite" and their fictions (i.e. fake narratives) that they use to wield power over you.

Without an adequate understanding of how the SYSTEMS really work, you will be fighting the WRONG battles with the WRONG tools - and that leads to humiliating failure and defeat.

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Paula's avatar

I suggest you show your credentials that prove your claims and your real name. Since you've done the research you claim, why don't. you summarize it for the rest of us.

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Paula's avatar

I think you misunderstand that the lawsuit is not based on being a taxpayer and that we all understand we live in a world were we nor Palestinians matter to those with the most power and wealth. You are, however, welcome to your opinion, as we all are.

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Paula's avatar

FYI, the group of lawyers representing Taxpayers Against Genocide has just been sent all your comments and websites. I will reserve any further comments upon their response.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Thank you - I appreciate that. Do you realize that these LAWYERS are scamming YOU (the people) with this bullshit? The lawyers will make MONEY regardless of the outcome - but the REAL LOSERS will be all the people that PAY for THESE LAWYERS.

Enjoy being conned and grifted (and scammed) by these lawyers! Let me know how it all turns out in the end. Remember this comment!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

TRC, please look at this comment (https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/trump-goes-all-in-on-stealing-gaza/comment/91176988) for MORE information/explanation on WHY taxes DO NOT fund Federal Government spending.

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Paula's avatar

No, we don't need to look. Summarize it first and convince us to look, Sayanim.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

No one's talking to you. The comment was addressed to TRC. Sheesh - you certainly are an idiot, aren't you?

George Carlin: "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." (That's you - Paula - in case you still don't get the hint).

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Christopher Kruger's avatar

United States v. Richardson, 418 U.S. 166 (1974) (taxpayers don't have standing to sue based on what the government does with their money. 1) that's what elections are for; 2) it's a "political question" for the Legislative branch.)

It makes a lot of sense if you THINK about it (although I doubt you will); if taxpayers had standing to sue the Executive and Legislative Branches, that's all they would do.

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Paula's avatar

I will address my attorneys on this issue and see what they say. Sayanims find each other. Collecting your comments.

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Paula's avatar

We are the next Palestinians.

https://ia801703.us.archive.org/26/items/a-history-of- central-banking-and-the-enslavement-of-mankind- pdfdrive/

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Gail Shields's avatar

He needs to e arrested for the current coup in the US also for the 14 th Amendment (not permitted to run for President after revolt against US in 2020. Also should be tried for collusion to genocide with felon Netanyahu wanted for genocide by ICC!

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

18 U.S. Code § 1091

It hasn’t taken long to have to update this. Not forgetting for the slightest moment that this is still applicable to the Biden administration, we now need to expand our focus to get the Trump administration charged under 18 U.S. Code § 1091, the statute that incorporates the Genocide Convention into US criminal law. Loyal members of the DOJ need to file charges.

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Katherine Larson's avatar

He who?

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martin's avatar

be ware of democrats highjacking and blunting the protest.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

Dems vs Republicans - nonsense. Two cheeks of the same *rse.

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Eddie's avatar

Yes! Thank you for bringing this up. The KHive/Clinton Cult liberal phonies will suddenly care about Palestine because a Democrat isn't getting the "glory" now. They will want us to forget that Joe Biden helped Netanyahu START the "cleansing" process on October 7, 2023.

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frankly's avatar

It's unnerving when I see film of men tie-wrapped, blindfolded on their knees, a voice pops into my head, YOUR Future!

It seems likely the land in Gaza will be haunted by countless souls forever. So sure go there, like you would to tour Auschwitz.

All their money seems to go to destroying enemies, thus creating more of them. They buy friends and create monopolies.

The pager thing is just spooky. A cowardly dirty trick. But a hint, our devices are destroying us!

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Liz Loh-Taylor's avatar

The empire and their allies are full of cowardly dirty tricks … that’s how the rest of the world ends up doing their bidding or else…

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frankly's avatar

What hasn't been weaponized?

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Liz Loh-Taylor's avatar

Our minds and souls

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Abbas Abdulmalik's avatar

The Palestinians have been suffering from the disease of Israel. Trump’s glib and perverse cure of letting the disease remain and thrive while the body is removed is a prime example of the banality of pure evil.

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Susan T's avatar

It is crazy how he goes on about how difficult it has been for the Palestinians but never once mentions that it has been difficult because of Zionist attacks over many years.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

🎯💯👏

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Trump is trying to negotiate a peaceful resolution to a horrible situation.

Disparaging one side is not the way to get that done. That, coupled with a flat out refusal to negotiate with the disparaged party, was the US approach prior to January 20 of this year.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Trump is trying to negotiate a peaceful resolution to a horrible situation."

Really? What have you been smoking? Must be some high quality and expensive stuff. Trump doesn't care about Palestine, Israel, America or anyone else other than HIS OWN INTERESTS. Why is this not obvious to everyone already? People have had 78 years to figure this one (i.e. Trump) out.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

It has become very clear these people have gone over the cliff and even after over two weeks of falling won't get anything through their thick skulls until they hit the rocks at the bottom!

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

I won't try to speak for others, but will say for myself that "this is not obvious " to me because, buffoonish as he is, Trump is human and has several sides.

But taking for granted his self interest, obtaining peace in the Middle East acceptable to all sides would be an important achievement in making the case for him as the greatest figure in human history.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I repeat my previous comment -> "Really? What have you been smoking?"

You seem to be living in your own reality (based on your assessment of Trump). Please try and de-program yourself from your "idolatory" of Trump if possible - > though I believe you may be too far gone for that...

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Suggesting that I idolize a person described as buffoonish: You need to spend less time at your keyboard and more time in self-reflection.

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Eddie's avatar

If only Oprah, Bill Clinton, and the elitist liberal media didn't make Trump a god and suggested he'd run for president years ago. Trump was a Democrat and had he switched back to Democrat, liberals would be yelling at us to vote for him.

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Abbas Abdulmalik's avatar

Neville Chamberlain chose not to disparage the Nazis. All that did was delay the inevitable.

The Israelis have already done demonstrably more evil and damage than the Nazis did at the time Chamberlain was schmoozing with them.

More to the point, you are “both sides-ing” an issue where there is no equality of sides. One side is a full modern military with the latest and most lethal aircraft, navy ships, and a fully armed military with the full backing and funding of the United States and the rest of the Western world. The other side is one of the most poverty-stricken populations who are mostly women and children living in an open-air prison concentration camp under military occupation.

I hope I have given enough food for thought to reconsider your position.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

There was no both-sidesing in my comment, because there was no assessment of culpability for the horror in Gaza at all. My comment was merely about what should be said or not said in attempting to negotiate a resolution.

(As for culpability, the Zionist project was immoral from inception, leading to over a hundred years of misery for the Palestinians and culminating in the Gaza horror of the last year and a half. )

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Eddie's avatar

Israel is the U.S. 2.0. Both countries are artificial and built on the suffering and hate.

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Katherine Larson's avatar

Ohhh the poor innocent JEWS?

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Paula's avatar

In Trump's eyes and reckoning, we are all Palestinians; deplorables and useless eaters. Only he and his ilk matter while he pretends otherwise. Sickening.

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charles leone's avatar

You can hear trump and his little billionaire club think out loud:

Why do we have to answer questions from "deplorables, despicable and useless eaters".

Donald Trump is an example of Racist Predictive Analytics.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

So why do the bastards want us to have more kids? Just to be wage slaves and lower wages through increased supply of workers?

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Paula's avatar

Very likely. I am also concerned about education, but rather like the idea it will be in the hands of individual states although in some ways that may polarize the country even more, knowing some states burn books and want to leave out parts of our history. For instance, none teach how US presidents and one single solitary Senator were assassinated for wanting to nationalize our banking system. You can find more here:

.https://ia801703.us.archive.org/26/items/a-history-of-central-banking-

and-the-enslavement-of-mankind-pdfdrive/

A_History_of_Central_Banking_and_the_Enslavement_of_Mankind__PDFDrive_.pdf

It helps to learn to read and understand words very well and to be taught you can be autodidactic.(self teaching) Once you learn to read and write, you don’t need school masters or teachers. Dictionaries and thesaurus’ are very useful tools, that I do not depend on online but own several of each. Online it is too easy to control the meanings of words.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Most schools are closer to prisons than places to learn. I'd like California to secede. Keep our money here and improve our schools. Not sure how we'd get our SS and Medicare funds though.

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Paula's avatar

Also meant to say, not only US presidents, but leaders around the world have been assassinated or run out of office for attempting to nationalize their banks, and resources and develop their own currency. Napolean and Tsar Alexander II, and Hitler too. Gaddafi, Lumumba and others. It is the attempt to take control away from Central Banking that get these people murdered. It's about who controls money and finance. Truly money has been the root of all this evil and wars in our world.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I stand by my previous assessment that Israel and the US are the left and right sides of a heart beating in synchrony, pumping death into the world. A unitary predatory beast that can't be dissected. Only eliminating the entire organism will do the trick of stopping the disaster it perpetrates.

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Citizen's avatar

CIA and Mossad, and probably MI6 also, seem to be separate branches of the same entity.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Vin

“Eliminating the entire organism.”

EXACTLY.

Time for Iran to up their game.

Just wondering…who exactly is going to escort nearly two million Palestinians from their ( and I repeat, “their”) land? Soldiers loading them into cattle cars at gunpoint? Sound familiar?

Even if every last Palestinian opted to leave, where is this “beautiful place” tRump speaks of that the current inhabitants would be willing to give up? Trade one ethnic cleansing for another?

To see that sick fuck Bibi Nosferatu sitting there smirking very nearly made me expel my gastric contents. I actually felt faint.

THIS WILL NOT STAND. If there was ever a time for revolution it is NOW. I’m channeling my inner Luigi.

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EcoSocialista's avatar

Right?!? I fully support Iran, Palestine, and Lebanon. I hope they can collectively kick Israeli's back to Eastern Europe.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Bibi Nosferatu, how completely appropriate, gypsy.

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gypsy33's avatar

Vin, I am totally and honestly convinced that the Ziorealis are a race of vampires.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Feral would insist that we not let them get away with being human. So I have a sort of hybrid hypothesis. Human genes, but inheritable epigenetic modification (chromosomal packaging of genes) induced by vampire bite. So the DNA turns out to be human, but the expression of the genetic profile is vampiric.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Vin

Actually vampires are a separate species; they make look similar to humans but they’re not. And one cannot be turned into a vampire by being bitten; the vampire’s intent is to drain you of blood and kill you. If humans are not available they ofyen turn to large animals such as cattle. This is observed not infrequently on ranches in the Southwest.

And yes they originated in Transylvania. They’ve spread out and live in colonies; IsraHell has become a haven for them.

Clearly I believe in cryptids. Bigfoot is my favorite and inhabits our Upper Peninsula, as well as the Dogman which is found only in Michigan and Wisconsin.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Oh well, then screw my hypothesis. I'm just really on edge of vomiting at the moment, having watched Bibi's smiling smirk as Trump talked about his insane NY developer's plan for Gaza. Send in the marines and watch Hamas take them out, I say. I always look for opportunities to see the US embarrassed these days. My country, stupid and stupider!

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Nick Douglas's avatar

It was all part of the plan. Genocide Joe with Ds have been supplying 2000 lb bombs with the intention to destroy all Gaza's infrastructure (homes, hospitals, schools, etc,) and kill as many Palestinians as possible. Then genocide Don with Rs will pretend to be great "humanitarian" and offer Palestinians "bright future" by expelling them from their ancestral lands. Bad cop good cop. Are there still humans around that truly believe in "western values" of "freedom and democracy"? This is Francis Fukuyama's 21st century, benign empire, and end of history? Intellectual midget and full-time moron yet celebrated in the west. Typical.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

💯 Completely agree with you Nick Douglas!

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Trump's proposal was not on anyone's mind when Israel began its post October 7 attack on Gaza.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Maybe it wasn't on your mind but it was the plan cooked by Zionist masters. In fact it was so clear and obvious.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

That the US would do some kind of takeover and massive redevelopment of Gaza? Nope.

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John Turcot's avatar

If only I had known that such humans still exist, I would have traded my passport for a Romulan identity 100 years ago.... just to make sure there was enough time to do it.

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gypsy33's avatar

Romulan sounds good, John. I always liked them.

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David Baird's avatar

Bloody well put, Vin!

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

I agree, but rather than "beating heart" I see them as 2 wings of the same dragon.

Who's In Charge, Israel or the USA | Or Is It Just Two Wings of the Same Dragon, Let's Discuss This

https://topicsfromatoz.substack.com/p/whos-in-charge-israel-or-the-usa

As God’s Chosen People, that they would feel favored and supported to have whatever they want!! If that means the entire world, then so be it. They will feel embolden and will go after this expansionism with utter impunity. And at this rate, they seem not only to be spoiled by the backing of the US, but the entire world, is not strong enough, to stop them.

It could be speculated that that is the goal of the Israeli occupiers. Since the settlers of the North, Central & South America have garnered vast swaths of land through their various attempts at colonizing the indigenous, the Israelis have a clear example of the possibility of total victory and the ultimate triumph of having a Greater Israel. Israel is tiny now, but it has its sights on expansion such that it can establish itself as a full-fledged nation among nations. The only way to do that is to expand, remove the indigenous and plant its flag claiming the territory it has Manifest Destiny over. This may take years, it may take centuries, but, it still has the example of what happened in the Americas and especially with the Manifest Destiny of the occupiers of the United States.

To me, the only thing that would change this situation is for the entire Israeli population to discard their government’s expansionist and imperialistic goals, as the parents (older nations) are too inept to discipline their own child (Israel) and bring it to heel. The older nations have been poor examples for Israel. They have failed to show Israel what it means to live in a world of justice, peace and harmony, especially its twin, the United States of America.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

You're indeed correct about Israel having great role models in the settler colonialists of the Americas, with particular emphasis on the Manifest Destiny rubbish used by the settlers of the eventual US, which sounds far too similar to the Zionist's "chosen people" to be simply coincidental. Those ideologies have fed off one another, as perhaps all settler colonialist movements must do to justify their grotesque injustices to indiginous people.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

I agree.

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LatterRain's avatar

I was honestly floored by how brazen they are at this point.

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John Turcot's avatar

Latter,

"I was honestly floored by how brazen they are at this point."... I just realized that this planet is not earth. Somehow its evil twin was switched in our sleep.

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charles leone's avatar

Donald Trump can be arrested for

aiding, abetting and enabling a genocide. Netanyahu and Trump are Smiling ZioNazi Proud Boys.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Trump was not involved in the post October 7 attack by Israel on Gaza.

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serafino bueti's avatar

Trump was warming up in the bullpen.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

You don't even know what you mean by that remark.

On October 7, 2023, Trump was in the middle of being lawfared, the Republican establishment was supporting primary challengers to him, and it was hardly clear that if he won the primary he would overcome Biden in the general election. Trump didn't win what was being called a toss-up election until three months ago and didn't become president until three weeks ago.

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serafino bueti's avatar

Yes, as all that theatre was being presented for your consumption, including the fake assassination attempt, Trump was getting ready to put the final touches on Gaza. Just think, in only 3 weeks he's already declared that the US will own and operate Gaza! Like I said, and you are unable to grasp, Trump was warming up in the bullpen.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

What can I say? You're obviously deep inside the Trump Administration and were there as the nefarious planning was taking place to have a seemless handoff between him and Team Biden. Thanks for sharing the insights!

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serafino bueti's avatar

You're welcome. Glad to be of service. You've come a long way!

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Eddie's avatar

He is now.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Yes, he's involved by trying to seek out a peaceful solution.

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denise ward's avatar

His followers will think it's ok. Just like Biden's followers thought what he did was ok. Team sports. Thank you Caitlin for covering the situation in Gaza.

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TomR's avatar

Admittedly it's a small sample, but I read the comments on Trump's obscene proposal on a web site that gets a lot of "MAGA'-type commentators. Without exception, there was a lot of anger, with comments such as "this is not why I voted for him".

His supporters may not care about the lives of Palestinians, but this ethnic cleansing will mean US dollars going overseas (and not spent here) and body bags of dead Americans coming back. They will care about that - no matter how much he tries to divert attention with DOGE and other idiocies.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"but this ethnic cleansing will mean US dollars going overseas (and not spent here)"

That's NOT how things work. Even if there were NO conflicts anywhere in the world, the US (Team D or Team R) would NOT be spending money on ordinary Americans - that's what neoliberal (and late stage) Capitalism is.

The plutocrats and oligarchs (like Trump) DO NOT CARE about ordinary Americans. Why is that so difficult for people to understand???

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John Turcot's avatar

As anyone who wants to see should be able to acknowledge, ... MONEY talks.... and talks... and talks....

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Reminder that Bob Dylan nailed it long ago, “Money doesn’t talk. It swears”!

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CarbonCopy's avatar

These Maga types are having a hard awakening because they are seeing just how much Trump lied to them and after his very first day! Yet there are still some of them that will never get it and always come up with some lame excuse why Trump is such a good guy. They are all deluded and I am afraid most Americans are the stupidest people on the planet.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

without a doubt

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Valerie A Traina's avatar

Caitlin, thank you for another crystal clear article on the unfolding genocide and our role in its perpetuation.

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Dieter's avatar

FUCKING LUNATIC STATE.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

BURN THE WHOLE MOTHERF-ING SYSTEM DOWN!!! Reading about this disgusting plan of Bibi's and the Orange Man's is enough to make me puke. Of course "Gaza has been very unlucky for them. They’ve lived like hell.” It's been hell for them because the US has been providing all those unexploded bombs dropped there. Please, somebody lock these war criminals up and call the Hague and start their trials... *sob!* #FREEPALESTINE

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Herk's avatar

Somehow, the solution lies with us, not somebody. Perhaps this is where intention comes in.

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gypsy33's avatar

TRC, it’s up to US, and our like-minded. I’m in Luigi mode right now. If this doesn’t do it, nothing will.

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SW's avatar

Horrifying and predictable. Trump, with his orange face glowing, and BiBi with his satisfied grin, make quite a pair of degenerates. The Palestinians may not be as eager to board the cattle cars to their new “beautiful” homes as they would have us believe. God help them — when will the world stop this?

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John Turcot's avatar

SW,

"When will the world stop this? Don't hold your breath.... the world is owned, lock, stock and barrel... for oligarchs, there is only one motto: What's yours is mine.

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serafino bueti's avatar

Not to mention Trump sitting there flashing the Masonic Hand Triangle, as usual.

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Abbas Abdulmalik's avatar

The world made the most tragic of mistakes by allowing those ashkeNAZI Zionists from Europe to first trickle in, then to pour onto the shores of Palestine, revealing themselves to be the murderous vermin that the entire world now sees them to be.

I don’t have to tell you what I look forward to.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

The Europeans knew what they were doing. They have gained by all these geopolitical strategies. It's the rest of the world that is paying the price for the West's mistakes (yet again).

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barbara maxwell's avatar

Sheer madness and total evil. The entire world should stand up against this- Trump is drunk on power but hopefully soon he will feel the repercussions of his inhumanity and greed.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Absolutely sickening. The most blatant theft of a people's homeland in history. Nazi Germany reincarnated.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

More like the white settler-colonizing of North America, IMO.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Exponentially worse. Indigenous people still live in North America. What they are doing ensures no Palestinians will exist in Palestine. Furthermore, this isn't even vaguely colonization this is a military takeover augmenting ethnic cleansing. People must be blind not to see the WEF/NWO coming to fruition here. It makes me want to puke!

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Peter, it's the same playbook, happening in modern times, with modern weapons. They'll never be able to extinguish all the Palestinians, not even from Gaza, West Bank or the Middle East. They are everywhere.

In my view, Israel has given us a modern day example of what happened when the Europeans colonized North, Central & South America. It also seems that Israel is just as determined to expand its borders, buy off its neighbors, impose incursions and subsequently genocide all who resist. They even talk of placing the Palestinians in refugee camps aka modern day reservations. On these reservations they may or may not have full sovereignty based on the predilections of their colonizers. They may have “treaties” or so-called “peace deals” that may or may not be adhered to by either party. It’s a complete replica of what occurred between the European settlers in the so-called New World and the indigenous of the North, Central & South America. They redistricted the land and renamed the territories, lakes, rivers, and oceans. They tore down structures, destroyed sacred sites and burial grounds, confiscated so-called artifacts and redesigned the agricultural landscape. Today’s North, Central and South America bear little resemblance to what it once was before the settlers arrived.

Who's In Charge, Israel or the USA | Or Is It Just Two Wings of the Same Dragon, Let's Discuss This

https://topicsfromatoz.substack.com/p/whos-in-charge-israel-or-the-usa

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Regardless of the atrocities committed during the colonization of the Americas for the most part I think we should have evolved as a civilization. As an evolved civilization this behaviour should be abhorrent. Given the brutality of the Holocaust, Israelis should be the last people perpetrating this horror on others. Furthermore the Western governments had no right (legally or morally) to steal the Palestinian lands. I fear there can never be peace in the entire Middle East as long as Israel exists in it current form and culture. Again I must emphasize that not all people of the Jewish faith are Zionists. Unfortunately Israel is a Zionist state which is and will always be inherently racist. Racism is founded on hatred and with hatred there can never be peace.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Ideally, humanity should have evolved. But, like Caitlin continually points out, it's the empire managers who authorize this brutality and I would add its the "order followers" who do the bidding of their masters. We don't see Biden, Trump or Bibi on the frontlines.

The ideology of manifest destiny is at the helm of the Empire managers. If you couple that with the "God's" chosen people narrative, you have a recipe for impunity. I find it ironic that a "God's Chosen People" would subscribe to such brutality, and I wonder what "God" they speak of. Whatever the case may be, they are embolden, they are protected and frankly they've had numerous examples of other countries' history of implicit or explicit perpetration of genocide. Hence the ICC and the ICJ are paper tigers to stop them without owning and atoning for their own crimes.

To me, the only thing that would change this situation is for the entire Israeli population to discard their government’s expansionist and imperialistic goals, as the parents (older nations) are too inept to discipline their own child (Israel) and bring it to heel. The older nations have been poor examples for Israel. They have failed to show Israel what it means to live in a world of justice, peace and harmony, especially its twin, the United States of America.

Realistically, I do not see this happening in the near future. The Zionist Israelis who control Israel are deeply entrenched in the ideology that they are "God's chosen people and that "God" gave them the land mapped out as Greater Israel.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

I have serious doubts that these leaders believe they are God's Chosen. It's just the line they peddle to the masses to convince them they are doing nothing wrong. To be this cruel and greedy they surely must be totally Godless and also must be totally aware of it. It seems that the top ranks of politicians are not only solely concerned with their personal well being but must also be totally Godless to strive to achieve this.

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includeMeOut's avatar

George Washington, the Great White Father of the US was a surveyor, assessing the indigenous land base for appropriation by the “civilizers”. Trump follows in that colonialist strategy, now in Gaza.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

I can't emphasize enough how much further this take things than the colonization of North America. Understand that in this plan there will be absolutely no indigenous people left alive in their homeland. This will be the greatest crime against humanity in the history of the world. If Russia and China are truly not part of the WEF/NWO plot they must intervene. This may be the final step on the way to Nuclear Armageddon.

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Ellen In NC's avatar

God help us!!🙏

Please someone arrest both of these old has beens before they destroy the planet!

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Gail Shields's avatar

Demand they be arrested for their crimes by the ICC and the US court for the abridging the 14th amendment!

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John Turcot's avatar

Ellen....

"Someone" ??? It's all, or none...

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gypsy33's avatar

John: it’s US!

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Cindy's avatar

Thank you, Caitlyn. I’m a huge admirer of your insight and narrative. And please pardon me, I’m outraged!

Trump is an unabashed fucking idiot. So much for stopping the death. Damn the fools that voted for this. More American lives for cannon fodder. Super. The tangerine toddler has no idea what kind of game he just picked sides for. He should be the first American to go into Gaza to hammer an “ownership” stake in the ground.

This is the worst possible scenario. Fuck this. All for greedy fucks to make a buck and Nazis to feel superior. They are evil, pure and simple. This will not end well.

God, help them be less demonic, PLEASE.

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Ivan M. Paton's avatar

Trump belongs to the same Zionist Empire that Biden belongs to - the coalition of monarchies, bankers, and billionaires that rule the world and are the true power behind the United Nations World Economic Forum's united public-private partnership (signed in 2019 just before the COVID-terrorism began, signed off on by orange man) -

Trump was set up by the Biden presidency to be the fake 'hero' - And fake he is.

Look at the Trump family's crest - you will see the Lion of Judah, the same lion on all of the European monarchies - they are all related to each other, as has been every president since Washington - we are still ruled by the monarchies - they just do it in a sneaky way.

All of our nations are under the control today of the International Organizations - top down tyranny - United Nations, World Economic Forum, endless 'treaties' - the international bankers control our money, milk us dry with debts, and the multinationals rob us blind with global Monopoly Capitalism.

Trump is a tool of the one world dictatorship Zionist crowd. Just as Biden was.

Left and Right. owned by the same people. The Left wing and the Right wing of the Eagle of Rome - and it is the head that rules.

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Cindy's avatar

I’m well aware of these truths you speak. Could there be even more to the agenda than what meets the eye? Truly the powers that be are a global cabal of the most deceptive and heinous deviants, lacking any shred of morality or humanity.

I stumbled across the documentary below earlier today and I have yet to complete it. Within the first hour and a half, the resonance of its message provided some clarity that I’ve been lacking regarding the broader “conspiracy” put upon us for their own selfish benefit.

The information still has me reeling. I’m not sure that I’ll ever see anything in this world the same again. I’m not married to any specific information in the video and I will always remain open to changing my mind if presented with complimentary or contradictory, fact based information. However, there’s a deeper truth here that I’m fairly certain is rooted in reality, despite its obscurity.

This world is doomed if these people continue to have their way with it. I want no part in the enabling of their sick, pitiful agenda. We must realize our collective power, rise up and overcome their barbarity.

That which has been hidden, the truth of their evils, will be discovered for all to see, call out, and rebuke. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. We will counter their ways, en mass, for the simple and righteous cause of the goodness of love, that for ourselves and for each other. Love is all.

https://open.substack.com/pub/whiterabbit/p/in-the-name-of-zion-full-documentary?r=257qep&utm_medium=ios

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Thanks for the share. This documentary is riveting. It's long but I think it's definitely worth my time to watch. Thanks again!!

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Cindy's avatar

My pleasure. As the maxim states, “Knowledge is Power”.

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EcoSocialista's avatar

Cindy, this documentary is 100% accurate and it is all documented at the UN here: https://www.un.org/unispal/history2/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/

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EcoSocialista's avatar

Also, zionists have tried to bury these books but read Henry Ford's 1920s books titled The International Jew. It was five books i believe, each had a : and more of the title such as The Dangers of international Jew.

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Cindy's avatar

Hey, thanks for the link!

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Herk's avatar

Voting gives the illusion of choice, but they control the choices - choices of division (R v D) to keep us from uniting against them. Solution? Build a parallel society? Intention? I don't f***n know.

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Cory Buott (Ijiraq)'s avatar

You said it; worst possible scenario

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