Faux outrage is the perfect way to describe this "Oh, Israel is doing a bad thing?" moment.
If it's Western activists that the West are concerned about, where was the uproar when the first flotilla carrying Greta Thunberg was intercepted (with despicably similar results)?
Zionist US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, described Ben-Gvir’s behaviour as “despicable” and said the minister had “betrayed the dignity of his nation”. This statement is laughable for so many reasons.
On the other hand, Western governments: still wonder why there are anti-genocide protests, will move heaven and earth to stamp out "anti-semitism", crack down on free speech, and treat the activists as the terrorists.
Including the felon before him and beyond. I can't remember a time when the U.S. Administration was not made of felons. In the past, they (these felons) attempted to hide their activity. In the present, they've become emboldened enough to be glaringly public about their activities (as evidenced by repeated exhortations of Trump's "I will end this civilization...").
Bull's-eye, Brianna. The furrowed brows and sober visages of our alleged leaders are not convincing. Here in 'Straya, as elsewhere, we continue to play a dead bat to the Israeli/US genocide and continue to parrot guff about the 'ceasefire'. Making their limited 'fuss' about Ben-Gvir is pathetic.
Perhaps you would change your mind if you reviewed the referenced footage. Empire Files: Israelis Speak Candidly to Abby Martin About Palestinians >>> October 2, 2017 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_dbsVQrk4
The only change has been body counts taken within Palestine.
If Ben-Gvir is not the face of Israel, then is he their designated a**hole? I think Ben-Gvir is the perfect poster child for Zionism. He displays its obvious love of torture and white supremacist thinking. Zionists aren't fooling anyone anymore. So, hang up the hasbara and just admit you're the most despised and despicable people on the face of the Earth.
They are mad at Ben Gvir for being the most realistic portrait of who the average Israeli Zionist is. The vast majority of them is in line with their genocidal government for a reason. Jewish suprematism is a real thing
Like Feral Finster would say, the world loves American carrot and is afraid of American stick. I don't think ANY Govt. likes Israel (or the U.S.) - not even their allies (but one wouldn't be able to surmise this from just observing the public facades of these Govts.)
Countries around the world are quick to jump on the "Ben-Gvir Bad" bandwagon while ignoring the fact that its Israeli policy to treat any dissidents like that.
Integrity? From western politicians? They are almost all exclusively cowards, assholes, and opportunists. Among the worst kind of humans. And the "western democracy" is such a BS. You cannot have democracy in a society of uneducated, evil, indoctrinated, stupid, and ignorant populace.
What I don't understand about Penny Wong is her lack of empathy and compassion for the Palestinians who are suffering genocide.
She as a woman of Asian decent and being openly LGBTQ would have at the very least, cop abuse growing up and continuing into adulthood. Homophobic and racial.
She was one of the faces of the Australian Same sex Marriage amendment.
When it was changed she was up on stage with the prime minister celebrating.
Nearly 62% voted Yes. Australians demonstrated, marched in support and were there to make the change.
How quickly she has forgotten what it's like to be the underdog and publicly showing no care for the murder of innocent people.
Tony Armstrong, I too cannot understand the blacks and browns ( I am brown by the way ) who are with Trump and the rightwing ideologues and racists. Like a famous African American activist ( Angela Davis ? ) asked someone " Have you left your skin at the door... ".
My friend, being an old white guy I will not pretend to know what is in the minds of black and brown supporters of Demented Don, however, I will offer this from discussions. A feeling of being ignored by the Demoncrats. Voting religious even when some of the positions were not pro worker or outright hateful, Obummer started the giant open air prisons. Of course now, the Duopoly has spoken they are all liars and will say what little they need to for the one off vote. This Massie election (I am not a Republican't ) and after Obummer I will not vote lesser evil. With social media now allowing us to speak to each other outside our normal access to people, it's amazing to see and hear viewpoints not unlike our own. What experiences have you had about the direction of the voting population? I work in an international lab so every race, religion, sexual orientation is a daily embrace : )
I don't believe in that. What carrot are you talking about? The one with cyanide in it? US cannot win wars just bring destruction of civilian infrastructure. Just like any other bully and coward. The global south is not even helping Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen now who gave the empire of lies a bloody nose. One does not treat assholes as one should treat decent human beings. It is more lack of unity and cowardness of the "Global South" (including BRICS) and some "deep" Chinese philosophy BS and nonsense. While waiting for the west to destroy itself (aka committ suicide) an irreparable harm will be done to the world and humanity. There comes a time when one needs to confront the bully even if it is going to be mutually assured destruction. Humans are failed experiment and biological garbage that needs recycling. All these atoms wasted on human experiment can be better used for other biological forms. Bring back the dinosaurs!
The fact that the "global South" isn't helping should be indicative that they fear American stick, for one. And yes, they crave American carrot. Their rulers like their western bank accounts, their western trophy properties, their western vacations, they hunger for plaudits from western cultural institutions, they want to send their spawn to western universities and demand that they learn English.
Ireland sounds a bit more shocked after the photos and evidence appeared yesterday. The Irish people care deeply, but politicians are, well, politicians. (i.e. Follow the money)
it's good to know the people care so deeply, i don't think i ever doubted their sincerity. The problem is politician/leader who don't reflect the interests/sentiments/concerns of their people. Well said about politician
Caitlin> "Ben-Gvir is the perfect embodiment of the racist murderousness of both Israel and the western empire. He represents everything this twisted civilization has become."
Good on you Caitlin and Tim for always batting for the truth. At this rate they will start calling you self-loathing "whites"! They don't know what decency is, what humanity is, what morality is. As for words like kindness and compassion, by even saying that they do not know the meaning of the words will be debasing it.
It was disgusting to hear foreign ministers from Australia, Uk etc. who were all very comfortable with aiding and abetting a genocide - didn't condemn the genocide even once - now saying they are appalled by Ben-Gvir!
Exactly. You can be as racist and cruel as you like as a Zionist, but you must never ever be caught in the act and bring light to your sadistic torture practices.
Here is why Israel thinks it should exist and be a member in good standing at the UN:
1) I torture UN workers
2) I bomb embassies
3) I refuse to declare my official borders as I want more and more of other countries' (plural) land
4) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries.
5) All criticism by any member of the World Community just reinforces my sense of privileged Victimhood
6) I never tell a lie as I have no concept. I only know what serves me.
7) I invented the Samson Option and will take the rest of you with me.
8) I commit collective punishment
9) I kidnap thousands, including children, with no judicial oversight
10) I will commit torture if I see fit and even if I don't
11) I oppress occupied inhabitants and enjoy doing so
12) I commit rape with impunity against mine enemies
13) I shoot little boys in the genitals
14) I steal land with impunity
15) I murder with impunity
16) I commit premeditated Genocide
17) I look forward to war and prod my neighbors for more
18) I need money, send a check
19) I commit false flags and if friends or even my own people are sacrificed so be it.
20) I implement the Hannibal Doctrine
21) Treachery and betrayal of my own people are a means to an end
22) I support and conduct terrorism.
23) I attract starving civilians, women and children, with food aid and then murder them in cold blood.
24) I know that I can count on other amoral nations to support my wars, oppression and theft.
25) I know that the World Community will not stop me as I commit future Genocides
26) I target aid trucks and kill their workers;
27) I especially target hospitals;
28) I kill civilian prisoners, women and children and old people.
29) I use my lobbyists to attack, intimidate and silence freedom of speech
30) I torture and kill UN workers and their dependents
31) I protected Zionist perpetrators of the Holocaust and lie about their role.
32) I cannibalize living Palestinian captives for their internal organs
33) I use human shields
34) I kill and kill and kill as many journalists as I can find
35) I am a refuge for criminals; not limited to: fugitive pedophiles and US traitors
36) I take delight in being a hyper-sadist and proudly boast of it; "1 shot 2 kills"
37) I use starvation as both a tactic and for my strategic goal of Genocide.
38) I use chemical and biological weapons on Palestinians and my neighbors.
39) I burn babies alive with impunity.
40) I kill doctors and nurses and cna's as I see fit
41) I kill civilian firefighters, emt's, paramedics and police officers as I see fit, and then bury their dead bodies and cover them up with Cat D9 US made bulldozers.
42) I kill civilian water and sewer workers and their families and in doing so I destroy Gaza's fresh water supplies and endanger basic sanitation.
43) I will target and kill parishioners at Holy Name Catholic Church and St. Porpryius Greek Orthodox Church, and destroy their churches, parish halls, rectories and parish food pantries and soup kitchens.
44) I will engage in Orwellian doublespeak in order to cover my war crimes against humanity.
45) I will target hospitals with tank fire, drones and airstrikes and SOC raids and murder patients in their beds.
46) I will bomb elementary schools and murder teachers and children and war refugees.
47) I will kill on sight and any civilian employee of Gaza civilian administration and their families, even in their own homes and apartments.
48) I will murder foreign aid and health care volunteers in their tents.
49) I will use bomblets to kill civilians in refugee tent cities (especially journalists).
50) I poison Palestinian farmland with toxic herbicides
51) I commit piracy hundreds of miles out from my territorial waters to further my plans of Genocide.
52) I will attack US allies with impunity (and craven US support).
53) Most of my people support mass murder, racism and theft, and thus make known the true nature and meaning of Israel.
54) I spray like the skunk that I am.
55) I make ceasefires if they permit me to continue slaughtering civilians.
56) I smash the face of Jesus.
Those that would make it illegal to protest against Genocide support the Psychopathic Genocidal Entity that <B>has given voice to the urge to kill us all (Samson Option).</B> Israel is madness.
Thank you for the history. I relived every line remembering when I heard or read the event. : ( We are and most likely have always been a sick world. More evolution please.
I would like to add they only pretend to be mad at him, not because he sabotages Israel, but because he makes them seem impotent in "protecting" their own citizens. Not that they are interested in protecting the activists anyhow, only in not appearing so weak.
But you hit the nail in the head: Its because they are westerners, white, middle class, etc.
There is no outrage with Palestinians r*ped and k*lled every day, not only in Gaza but also in Cisjordan; and of course similarly in Lebanon and beyond. Those people, to the western empire, are not human and don't deserve any mention except as enemies.
Despicable NZ Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters expressed disapproval of Ben-Gvir's behaviour but could not resist a bit of victim-blaming, adding that the flotilla members had been told not to go.
Having lost control of the narrative the ruling classes in the degenerate West have basically thrown in the towel. There is no hiding genocide in Gaza and 80 years of apartheid in occupied Palestine at the hands of the Zionist entity. Tens of millions of “Christian” Zionists in the USA and millions of followers of Oswald Mosley in Britain form the rock solid foundation upon which the respective fascist governments survive. We have the numbers to smash fascism, again. Failure to do so NOW will result in history repeating itself.
As usual, Caitlin is right on the money.
Faux outrage is the perfect way to describe this "Oh, Israel is doing a bad thing?" moment.
If it's Western activists that the West are concerned about, where was the uproar when the first flotilla carrying Greta Thunberg was intercepted (with despicably similar results)?
Zionist US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, described Ben-Gvir’s behaviour as “despicable” and said the minister had “betrayed the dignity of his nation”. This statement is laughable for so many reasons.
On the other hand, Western governments: still wonder why there are anti-genocide protests, will move heaven and earth to stamp out "anti-semitism", crack down on free speech, and treat the activists as the terrorists.
Impunity breeds impunity.
Bingo! Look no further than the felon in the WH.
Including the felon before him and beyond. I can't remember a time when the U.S. Administration was not made of felons. In the past, they (these felons) attempted to hide their activity. In the present, they've become emboldened enough to be glaringly public about their activities (as evidenced by repeated exhortations of Trump's "I will end this civilization...").
That's for sure. He's supposed to say something like "The IDF is the most moral army in the world" while they torture, rape and murder people.
Come on, Ben-Gvir -- get with the program!
I think you mean "Get with the pogrom!"
Bull's-eye, Brianna. The furrowed brows and sober visages of our alleged leaders are not convincing. Here in 'Straya, as elsewhere, we continue to play a dead bat to the Israeli/US genocide and continue to parrot guff about the 'ceasefire'. Making their limited 'fuss' about Ben-Gvir is pathetic.
Ben Gvir is a convenient scapegoat for a system evil from top to bottom.
this is quite ridiculous. "Most Jews don't meaningfully oppose" yet you mention Abby Martin who is Jewish. Lol.
Also the whole Grayzone that has written hundreds of essential reports about zionist lies and crimes, is Jewish.
How do you want "most Jews" to oppose? To do what?
Perhaps you would change your mind if you reviewed the referenced footage. Empire Files: Israelis Speak Candidly to Abby Martin About Palestinians >>> October 2, 2017 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_dbsVQrk4
The only change has been body counts taken within Palestine.
most jews is not the same as all jews! Oh and I don't know, most of them could oppose..GENOCIDE? Dumb troll...
"You are not the face of Israel.”
If Ben-Gvir is not the face of Israel, then is he their designated a**hole? I think Ben-Gvir is the perfect poster child for Zionism. He displays its obvious love of torture and white supremacist thinking. Zionists aren't fooling anyone anymore. So, hang up the hasbara and just admit you're the most despised and despicable people on the face of the Earth.
The Revolution continues, I agree with you. It is a pariah state.
He's one sick little fucker, no doubt. Gets his jollies doing this stuff.
They are mad at Ben Gvir for being the most realistic portrait of who the average Israeli Zionist is. The vast majority of them is in line with their genocidal government for a reason. Jewish suprematism is a real thing
Not one single government will do anything to punish Israel. It's all faux outrage as usual. And of course, it's the reason this depravity continues.
Like Feral Finster would say, the world loves American carrot and is afraid of American stick. I don't think ANY Govt. likes Israel (or the U.S.) - not even their allies (but one wouldn't be able to surmise this from just observing the public facades of these Govts.)
The cowardice from the entire world, give or take a few small European countries is heartbreaking and mind-boggling as well.
Long time no see. Was wondering where you’d got to. Perhaps I just missed seeing your comments. Glad to see you back.
Countries around the world are quick to jump on the "Ben-Gvir Bad" bandwagon while ignoring the fact that its Israeli policy to treat any dissidents like that.
Absolutely this! They say one thing in Hebrew - usually something horrendous -then in English claim they never say what they just said in Hebrew!
But Penny Wong is "deeply concerned".
Fixed, all better.
Penny Wong is a war criminal.
I think she (and others) have been ‘got at’ by a certain powerful lobby group
Judy Bancroft, If They could be 'got at' - what does it say about their integrity....
Integrity? From western politicians? They are almost all exclusively cowards, assholes, and opportunists. Among the worst kind of humans. And the "western democracy" is such a BS. You cannot have democracy in a society of uneducated, evil, indoctrinated, stupid, and ignorant populace.
Not much …..🤷♀️
What I don't understand about Penny Wong is her lack of empathy and compassion for the Palestinians who are suffering genocide.
She as a woman of Asian decent and being openly LGBTQ would have at the very least, cop abuse growing up and continuing into adulthood. Homophobic and racial.
She was one of the faces of the Australian Same sex Marriage amendment.
When it was changed she was up on stage with the prime minister celebrating.
Nearly 62% voted Yes. Australians demonstrated, marched in support and were there to make the change.
How quickly she has forgotten what it's like to be the underdog and publicly showing no care for the murder of innocent people.
She is a special kind of maggot!
Tony Armstrong, I too cannot understand the blacks and browns ( I am brown by the way ) who are with Trump and the rightwing ideologues and racists. Like a famous African American activist ( Angela Davis ? ) asked someone " Have you left your skin at the door... ".
My friend, being an old white guy I will not pretend to know what is in the minds of black and brown supporters of Demented Don, however, I will offer this from discussions. A feeling of being ignored by the Demoncrats. Voting religious even when some of the positions were not pro worker or outright hateful, Obummer started the giant open air prisons. Of course now, the Duopoly has spoken they are all liars and will say what little they need to for the one off vote. This Massie election (I am not a Republican't ) and after Obummer I will not vote lesser evil. With social media now allowing us to speak to each other outside our normal access to people, it's amazing to see and hear viewpoints not unlike our own. What experiences have you had about the direction of the voting population? I work in an international lab so every race, religion, sexual orientation is a daily embrace : )
Or she (and others) have been got at by an unmentionable powerful lobby group …..
Because she knows full well what stances will advance her career and what will have her cast into outer darkness.
Ethics never played a role in it.
Her 'passion' is truly impressive, eh Tony? Embarrassing. no? In-fucking-sufferable.
And yesterday Ireland voted NOT to sanction Israel
WTF?? Even with the sister of their president taken hostage by the IDF? Ireland--you disappoint me.
Incredible. The human world is truly depraved and terminally sick. Where is the Planet-killer asteroid when truly needed.
giant meteor 2028 has my vote
Sickening..
https://www.reddit.com/r/irishpolitics/comments/1tixl0m/d%C3%A1il_votes_against_bill_to_impose_sanctions_on/
I would have expected otherwise from Ireland.
Living in Ireland, it’s very disappointing
I wouldn't.
Because American carrot. Because American stick.
I don't believe in that. What carrot are you talking about? The one with cyanide in it? US cannot win wars just bring destruction of civilian infrastructure. Just like any other bully and coward. The global south is not even helping Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen now who gave the empire of lies a bloody nose. One does not treat assholes as one should treat decent human beings. It is more lack of unity and cowardness of the "Global South" (including BRICS) and some "deep" Chinese philosophy BS and nonsense. While waiting for the west to destroy itself (aka committ suicide) an irreparable harm will be done to the world and humanity. There comes a time when one needs to confront the bully even if it is going to be mutually assured destruction. Humans are failed experiment and biological garbage that needs recycling. All these atoms wasted on human experiment can be better used for other biological forms. Bring back the dinosaurs!
The fact that the "global South" isn't helping should be indicative that they fear American stick, for one. And yes, they crave American carrot. Their rulers like their western bank accounts, their western trophy properties, their western vacations, they hunger for plaudits from western cultural institutions, they want to send their spawn to western universities and demand that they learn English.
well, that's truly disappointing and disheartening to hear, to say the least.
Ireland sounds a bit more shocked after the photos and evidence appeared yesterday. The Irish people care deeply, but politicians are, well, politicians. (i.e. Follow the money)
it's good to know the people care so deeply, i don't think i ever doubted their sincerity. The problem is politician/leader who don't reflect the interests/sentiments/concerns of their people. Well said about politician
Caitlin> "Ben-Gvir is the perfect embodiment of the racist murderousness of both Israel and the western empire. He represents everything this twisted civilization has become."
Good on you Caitlin and Tim for always batting for the truth. At this rate they will start calling you self-loathing "whites"! They don't know what decency is, what humanity is, what morality is. As for words like kindness and compassion, by even saying that they do not know the meaning of the words will be debasing it.
It was disgusting to hear foreign ministers from Australia, Uk etc. who were all very comfortable with aiding and abetting a genocide - didn't condemn the genocide even once - now saying they are appalled by Ben-Gvir!
They're mad at him for getting recorded.
Exactly. You can be as racist and cruel as you like as a Zionist, but you must never ever be caught in the act and bring light to your sadistic torture practices.
They're Not Mad At Ben-Gvir For Being Evil...
Here is why Israel thinks it should exist and be a member in good standing at the UN:
1) I torture UN workers
2) I bomb embassies
3) I refuse to declare my official borders as I want more and more of other countries' (plural) land
4) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries.
5) All criticism by any member of the World Community just reinforces my sense of privileged Victimhood
6) I never tell a lie as I have no concept. I only know what serves me.
7) I invented the Samson Option and will take the rest of you with me.
8) I commit collective punishment
9) I kidnap thousands, including children, with no judicial oversight
10) I will commit torture if I see fit and even if I don't
11) I oppress occupied inhabitants and enjoy doing so
12) I commit rape with impunity against mine enemies
13) I shoot little boys in the genitals
14) I steal land with impunity
15) I murder with impunity
16) I commit premeditated Genocide
17) I look forward to war and prod my neighbors for more
18) I need money, send a check
19) I commit false flags and if friends or even my own people are sacrificed so be it.
20) I implement the Hannibal Doctrine
21) Treachery and betrayal of my own people are a means to an end
22) I support and conduct terrorism.
23) I attract starving civilians, women and children, with food aid and then murder them in cold blood.
24) I know that I can count on other amoral nations to support my wars, oppression and theft.
25) I know that the World Community will not stop me as I commit future Genocides
26) I target aid trucks and kill their workers;
27) I especially target hospitals;
28) I kill civilian prisoners, women and children and old people.
29) I use my lobbyists to attack, intimidate and silence freedom of speech
30) I torture and kill UN workers and their dependents
31) I protected Zionist perpetrators of the Holocaust and lie about their role.
32) I cannibalize living Palestinian captives for their internal organs
33) I use human shields
34) I kill and kill and kill as many journalists as I can find
35) I am a refuge for criminals; not limited to: fugitive pedophiles and US traitors
36) I take delight in being a hyper-sadist and proudly boast of it; "1 shot 2 kills"
37) I use starvation as both a tactic and for my strategic goal of Genocide.
38) I use chemical and biological weapons on Palestinians and my neighbors.
39) I burn babies alive with impunity.
40) I kill doctors and nurses and cna's as I see fit
41) I kill civilian firefighters, emt's, paramedics and police officers as I see fit, and then bury their dead bodies and cover them up with Cat D9 US made bulldozers.
42) I kill civilian water and sewer workers and their families and in doing so I destroy Gaza's fresh water supplies and endanger basic sanitation.
43) I will target and kill parishioners at Holy Name Catholic Church and St. Porpryius Greek Orthodox Church, and destroy their churches, parish halls, rectories and parish food pantries and soup kitchens.
44) I will engage in Orwellian doublespeak in order to cover my war crimes against humanity.
45) I will target hospitals with tank fire, drones and airstrikes and SOC raids and murder patients in their beds.
46) I will bomb elementary schools and murder teachers and children and war refugees.
47) I will kill on sight and any civilian employee of Gaza civilian administration and their families, even in their own homes and apartments.
48) I will murder foreign aid and health care volunteers in their tents.
49) I will use bomblets to kill civilians in refugee tent cities (especially journalists).
50) I poison Palestinian farmland with toxic herbicides
51) I commit piracy hundreds of miles out from my territorial waters to further my plans of Genocide.
52) I will attack US allies with impunity (and craven US support).
53) Most of my people support mass murder, racism and theft, and thus make known the true nature and meaning of Israel.
54) I spray like the skunk that I am.
55) I make ceasefires if they permit me to continue slaughtering civilians.
56) I smash the face of Jesus.
Those that would make it illegal to protest against Genocide support the Psychopathic Genocidal Entity that <B>has given voice to the urge to kill us all (Samson Option).</B> Israel is madness.
Yep, that pretty much covers everything …..
Thank you for the history. I relived every line remembering when I heard or read the event. : ( We are and most likely have always been a sick world. More evolution please.
I would like to add they only pretend to be mad at him, not because he sabotages Israel, but because he makes them seem impotent in "protecting" their own citizens. Not that they are interested in protecting the activists anyhow, only in not appearing so weak.
But you hit the nail in the head: Its because they are westerners, white, middle class, etc.
There is no outrage with Palestinians r*ped and k*lled every day, not only in Gaza but also in Cisjordan; and of course similarly in Lebanon and beyond. Those people, to the western empire, are not human and don't deserve any mention except as enemies.
Despicable NZ Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters expressed disapproval of Ben-Gvir's behaviour but could not resist a bit of victim-blaming, adding that the flotilla members had been told not to go.
NZ just another depraved degenerate western settler-colonial shithole. Beautiful landscapes but full of zionist assholes, opportunists, and cowards.
The government is full of Zionist assholes and cowards, but there are many Kiwis who are pro-Palestine.
How could anyone do any more damage to the Israeli reputation? Whats the lowest circle in the system of Dante's hell?
Israel has been inventing NEW circles of hell that go well beyond Dante's levels...
Telling the truth is an anomaly in the Culture of Deceit.
Having lost control of the narrative the ruling classes in the degenerate West have basically thrown in the towel. There is no hiding genocide in Gaza and 80 years of apartheid in occupied Palestine at the hands of the Zionist entity. Tens of millions of “Christian” Zionists in the USA and millions of followers of Oswald Mosley in Britain form the rock solid foundation upon which the respective fascist governments survive. We have the numbers to smash fascism, again. Failure to do so NOW will result in history repeating itself.
We may already be past the tipping point. We in the u.s. are well into that 1934 Berlin moment.