I had pretty terrifying conversation with a very pretty young lady, who happened to be a Zionist, and a member of the Zionist Genocidal Occupation Forces... It was a chilling insight into the impacts of a lifetime of propaganda consumption - magnified by the war propaganda associated with October 7th. She totally believed it all, seemingly - even the stuff that had been completely deconstructed and debunked, about mass rapes, pregnant women being cut open, and X number of beheaded babies, in ovens.
The propaganda has been designed to hit emotional centers, not rational ones.
I sat in between my 84 yr Yiddish friend & a women who just returned from a vacation in S Korea. That women complained she had all the plans to visit Israel but Hamas attacked. She expressed delight in Israel’s right to defend & US support. Yiddish friend “What of all those children in Palestine.” We’ve waited far too long for every walking, breathing, talking Palestinian to be exterminated said Ms back from vacation in S Korea. *I got up and moved as to try and absorb the flute harp concerts rich soothing sound and pray for those “breathing” in Palestine.
This is EXACTLY equivalent to "It's time for the Final Solution to get rid of the untermenschen, because we need the lebensraum and they are inferior people who should be cleaned out." The back-from-S Korea is a Nazi.
Apparently there's a couple comments from a malignant narcissistic Zionist Stalker that required me blocking it - to end the incessant stupidity of its replies... Ignore if that's the case, here.
Wow. It is unbelievable that someone can be so lacking in understanding of the world. She must just believe what she is told without ever checking anything out.
I knew, instantly. But it's good to hear that the Zionist newspapers are catching-on. It feels like an "assisted" LIHOP - in that Smotrich and Ben Gvir and the ZioNazi settlers had created a situation where Hamas was essentially FORCED to respond, or give up their reason for being... And then you have the attempted Abraham Accords - and Netayahu's Palestine-free map, at the UN...It militated for a response.
Fiction/False: “Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe!”
Fact: "Israel is the only place where Jews are NOT safe!"
Fiction/False: “The Jews deserve a homeland!”
Fact: "Every group deserves a homeland OR No group deserves a homeland!" (The framing of "homeland" is troublesome in and of itself)
Fiction/False: “Israel is the only liberal democracy in the middle east.”
Fact: "Israel is NOT liberal and Israel is NOT a democracy."
Fiction/False: “I support Israel’s existence but I oppose the mistreatment of Palestinians.”
Fact: "I support Palestinians AND OPPOSE the existence of Israel."
Fiction/False: “Israel is essential for protecting our interests in the region.”
Fact: "Israel is essential for protecting the interests of the Empire Managers AND Global Capitalists, but it DOES NOT protect the interests of anyone else on planet Earth."
(I think Ben Shapiro disagrees with me. Too bad he doesn't understand that FACTS don't have FEELINGS) 😄
Do I deserve a homeland? America has been littered wth unfortunate homeless and the propagandized drugs, mental illness. America has trillions of our tax dollars “in debt”. Want to fund a few more civilian deaths? America got affordable “higher” education? College tuition cost more than my 1st house. America gots what? Elections oh boy caste your ballot folks. Woodstock generation Granny Got refugees?
Send an unambiguous message to TPTB and to ourselves by voting for Dr. Jill Stein. We deserve knowing just how many are out there who won’t compromise on our moral values.
If Jews need a homeland, let them have one in the USA. They already own the government there. Then, there is always the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia.
This is as good as any, and perhaps the best summary I have read of why no rational and even moderately intelligent and caring person can support Netanyahu, his supporters and the genocide being committed by the IDF.
It is also the only well argued and statement I have read that justifies and voices the reality: that the State of Israel ought not to exist. It was created after the British reneged on a pledge to the Arabs made to gain their assistance in ousting the Ottomans. It was partitioned on the instigation of the British after pressure from a zionist lobby group. That partitioning included *no* consultation with the Palestinians who lived there and the allocation of land justified on the known and false basis that the Palestinians were a tiny minority when, in fact, they composed 95% of the population. That partitioning and creation of 'Israel' caused the immediate dispossession of around 750,000 Palestinians and the continous, intimidation, victimisation, effective imprisonment and ill-treatment of Palestinians ever since.
All that you have to say, Caitlin, is correct. However, just as I have been, for saying it you will be labeled, incorrectly and by false logic, as an anti-Semite.
It is a sad indictment of the level of intellect of such a large number of people that they continue to justify providing armaments and funding to Israel with the argument that Israel has a 'right to defend itself.' A more disingenuous and corrupt argument I can't imagine.
That the USA, UK and others continue to supply armaments to Israel is clear evidence that they are complicit in the atrocity being committed by Israel in Gaza and the West Bank. It will stand as a blot on those nations for the rest of time and it makes me continually feel a need to retch.
Yes, there a million and one false/bad/harmful/despicable/shameful/inexcusable/immoral and otherwise wrongful happenings in the World but this, in my view anyway, is the worst and will stand in history as a perfidy equal to that which Jews in Europe suffered during the 1930's and 1940's. What makes it all the more outrageously horrific is that the perfidy is now being committed by those who were previously the victims. Until 8th October 2023, I would not have believed that possible. How wrong I was.
I agree. The saddest part of this is that so many do not realize that all Jews are not Zionists. This is the part of the debate that most seem to miss. There are many Jews out there that do not support these Zionist/ U.S. imperialist policies. Israel was not created to support the Jewish people. It was created to support Zionism and world imperialism. They are nothing less than Fascists.
Technically, I believe you to be correct. In practice, I suggest that whatever the views of the zionists who managed to successfully achieve Israel's creation or the reality that they are generally atheists, not practitioners of Judaism, the majority of Israel citizens are Jewish and Israel is seen as a Jewish State.
I also disagree that, despite the actions of zionists being the major instigation of the accession of Britain and others to the partitioning of Palestine and creation of Israel, the fact is that sympathy for the horrors experienced by Jews in WWII and will to assist and support Jews was at least as important in the decision and perhaps even more-so.
I don't believe that Israel was "created to support Zionism and world imperialsim." I consider that to be a somewhat simplistic and falsely conspiratorial view of what happened and one which ignores the context of the time. - No, I am not defending it, that ought to be obvious from my previous comments. l simply prefer a wholistic and evidenced approach to such major actions, rather than convenient but simplistic and opinonated ones, given away by claims such as: "They are nothing less than Fascists."
I’m certain that the well-deserved sympathy for Jews was used to manipulate the public, including many in government in the US and UK. But it was clear, to anyone with eyes and ears, that Israel was an unworkable concept. Its founders were already making racist, genocidal statements before 1948. Many many leaders, thinkers, organizations, including Jewish ones and including almost the entire Pentagon, warned loudly that nothing but perpetual war could come from displacing one population for another. The forces of Zionism and imperialism won, knowing it was not a good solution for Holocaust survivors.
Perhaps, however I consider that my reference would be clear to most, i.e. that this atrocity in Gaza is being committed by people of the same religion as those who were demonised and horrifically persecuted for that belief before and during WWII.
To be even more accurate, 12 million goyim were kidnapped and forced to revert to their grandma's religion (Judaism) or die; an ancient practice amongst all the Abrahamic faiths, and; wouldn't you know, but rather interesting. I read a science article a few months ago about being able to determine what sort of animal it was and what they are, just from the the radioactive isotopes that remained in burnt bones. And in my comment to the author's of the article, I suggested that all those ashes from the burnt bodies be analyzed so see who actually died because they might just be animal bone ashes; well, wouldn't you know, but that there was a big out cry, because some high up in Germany had all those ashes dug up and disposed of elsewhere. Make what you will out of that.
Apparently, they aren’t the only nation that feels the same. The USA clearly believes that it would collapse if the military were to lose its prominence.
Tesla Marine -> another low-esteem, delusional person that suffers from an inferiority-complex. He LIKES his own comments. What's up with these losers that keep liking their own comments?
Don't interact with this bot. It is a tactic used by the Zionists to undermine any discussion in social media. They don't discuss, they spread hatred and misinformation.
Iran was our ally when the Shah was in power. I sometimes wonder how many of our current allies would remain steadfast if we were to remove all the military bases and the coercive economic pressures. Empire gotta empire, or expire.
He was our puppet. We put him in power and the people hated him and his terrorist regime. I was there. It was a land dominated by fear. By doing this terrible thing to get control of their oil fields, we set up the ensuing revolutions and all the trouble since.
I strongly recommend Reza Aslan’s latest book: “An American Martyr in Persia”. A well written and well researched historical perspective on an extraordinary people.
I heard on my radio a couple of hours ago,on the news report that the leader of The British Board of Deputies which is the body that represents British Jews,or so they claim,or we are told,or at least we are encouraged to think they are a legal entity with authority like the WEF and the WHO.
They are spoken of in such a way as to imply that. This man has castigated a government minister David Lammy for stopping just 30 out of 150 export licences for Arms manufactured in Britain (jobs,tax) to Israel. The Jewish leader (if he is British why is he Jewish ) is saying outright that this is Anti-semitism and that the political administration voted into authority the electorate of Britain are wrong to do what the electorate of Britain want. The mask is slipping and revealing who runs the show,or thinks they do.
The Jesuits Order was started by three priests and four Jews; one has to remember that anyone, even an atheist or a Jew can become a Pope; in principle at least, as far as I'm aware of though, only about a half dozen Popes have been Jewish; the primary mission of the Catholic Church, though they say otherwise, is to preserve the mythology of Christ. That might seem like a big laugh to most, but look at the ancient gods of Babylon and Egypt; I found a 5,000 year old version of the, "Our Father", the other day, and the whole story about Christ and his mother goes back about 6,000 years, and the whole deal with Jeffrey Epstein; one of Al Capone's contemporaries (Cohen) gave him that racket) but the story goes back 7,000 years to the Goddess Ninhursag and her man (Erik?) a little iffy on the spelling anyway, "Gilgamesh". In Babylon at least, many, if not most of those God's were the equivalent to our labor unions I even remember as a child being told the backstory of what turned out to thousands of years old mythology ( never put an old number of nails in a board or the opposing forces of the sun and moon will cause the nails to become loose. Funny, you wouldn't think, but that's what sort of is going on; at least the justification for it all.
HOW The Jesuits Order was started by three priests and four Jews; one has to remember that anyone, even an atheist or a Jew can become a Pope; in principle at least, as far as I'm aware of though, only about a half dozen Popes have been Jewish
No, it's from a book by Storm Constantine, "Coming Forth by Day; A System of Khemetic Magic Book One" , I was going to type it up for one of Pope Francis's friends, but I lost the damn page.
I'll soon post the full article about the Biblical limits of Israel:
“From the river to the sea” has been penalized in some countries but only if used to back the Palestinian cause, not the Jewish one! 1
It’s a wrong interpretation of Psalm 72:8
“He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.”
Which clearly refers to Jesus and the 3 Magi from Tarshish, Sheba and Seba:
9 May the desert tribes bow before him and his enemies lick the dust.
10 May the kings of Tarshish and of distant shores bring tribute to him. May the kings of Sheba and Seba present him gifts.
11 May all kings bow down to him and all nations serve him.
The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel:
1. The land for all of the children of Abram (Abraham), including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates" (Genesis 15:18–21):
2. After leaving Egypt, the promised land involved what now is Jordan, Iraq and part of Egypt. Only in the time of David and Solomon the territory of Israel came closest to such borders, but never reached them, especially, as far as the “Great River” (the Euphrates).
The translation “shall” could mean that they lost the right to those boundaries due to their rebellion against God which led to the 40 year dessert-walk punishment. Yet, they consider it still valid!
Deuteronomy 11:24
Every place where you set foot shall be yours: from the wilderness and the Lebanon, from the Euphrates River to the Western (Mediterranean) Sea, shall be your territory
Deuteronomy 1
7 Leave here and go to the hill country of the Amorites (central mountain range of Palestine) and to all the surrounding regions, the Arabah, the mountains, the Shephelah, the Negeb (dessert south of Palestine) and the seacoast—the land of the Canaanites and the Lebanon (mountain range of Phoenicia, north of Palestine) as far as the Great River, the Euphrates.
8 See, I have given that land over to you. Go now and possess the land that the LORD swore to your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give to them and to their descendants after them.
Note: the Amorites and the Canaanites were only two of several different peoples living on the land (cf. 7:1).
Exodus 23:31
I will set your boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines (Mediterranean), and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; all who dwell in this land I will hand over to you and you shall drive them out before you.
3. A narrower definition refers to the land that was divided between the original Twelve tribes of Israel after they conquered the “promised land”. 2
Deuteronomy 7:1
When the LORD, your God, brings you into the land which you are about to enter to possess, and removes many nations before you—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, seven nations more numerous and powerful than you—
Note: all descendants of Canaan, son of Ham and grandson of Noah, from whom they derive their collective name Canaanites. When enumerated separately, one of the seven nations is called Canaanites, while the others are called the Amorites, the Girgashites, the Hittites, the Hivites, the Jebusites and the Perizzites.3
After WW1, in 1919, that Biblical definition was used by the British to define Palestine, preparing that land for a future Israel. 4
Conclusion: for the fundamentalist biblical Zionists “from the river to the sea”, clearly involves the river Euphrates, or at least it’s sources. They won’t stop until conquering Iran.
This is worse than Nazi lebensraum (livig space), they want more living space than they need:
• 1929. Vladimir Jabotinski: "The Jordan has two banks; this one is ours, and the other one too." 5
• 2024. Netanyahu said: “In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control over all territory west of the Jordan River. This collides with the idea of (Palestinian) sovereignty …” 6
They consider the Palestines in Gaza equal to the Philistines7, and that the Bible entitles them to obliterate them in spite of the Bible itself, clearly leaving out the Philistines:
Exodus 23:23
My angel will go before you and bring you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites; and I will wipe them out.
Judges 3
1. These are the nations the LORD allowed to remain, so that through them he might test Israel, all those who had not experienced any of the Canaanite wars—
2 to teach warfare to those generations of Israelites who had never experienced it:
3 the five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites who lived in the mountain region of the Lebanon between Baal-hermon and Lebo-hamath.
some Zionists keep interpreting that it’s not the Messiah/God that will grant them glory, but that they must dominate the world in order to handle the power to the Messiah.
To justify global domination, they take certain passages out of context. Especially those referring to the mystical city of God, Zion, applied to the earthen Israel. For example:
Isahiah 60
10 … their kings shall minister to you ...
11 … So that they may bring you the wealth of nations,...
12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you shall perish; such nations shall be utterly destroyed!
13 The glory of Lebanon shall come to you ...
14 … All those who despised you, shall bow low at your feet. ...
16 You shall suck the milk of nations,
They conveniently omit:
15 … Now I will make you the pride of the ages, ...
It is not them who are to rule the world but God. God will make them the pride of the ages, not them!
Also, they don’t consider the whole chapter, which clearly refers to the Messiah and the 3 Magi (v. 6-9) and the end times.
Some Christians justify a “right” to genocide Gaza by saying that in the Old Testament, God gave Israel all the land from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates – the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites. “From the River to the sea” should be from the river (Euphrates) to the sea (the Mediterranean Sea) and that’s why a 2-State solution is anti-Biblical.
In the Old Testament, God commanded Israel to go to war, but only through a prophet. All other war efforts failed, because they were not under God's command, just human self-destructive whim. Netanyahu is clearly no prophet. Since the rejection of Jesus, the Messiah, Israel has no prophet, no Temple, no Sacrifice, no priests, no Levites, no scrolls, no sacred vases, no High Priest (replaced by the new Pontiff, Peter), nothing! They even got their scriptures from the Christian parchments.
Instead of fighting their semite brothers (Ishmaelites/arabs), and Christians, who also believe in a coming Messiah, why not all wait in peace until He comes and settles all disputes?
In 191 I have recently learned,the Germans had,by all previous conventional standards WON World War One. But that was not "the required result" so the whole bloody carnage was kept ticking over and thousands of people dying horrible deaths while "the required result" was engineered into place. To be brief,the UK government made a deal with the USA Jew financiers that if USA entered the War they would be given the land of Palestine as a reward on which to establish a Jewish state. So in 1917 USA with it's then immense wealth entered the War,and also Tanks were introduced that ended the trenches stalemate. And WW1 was engineered into place FOR THIS RESULT. It was not about bombastic German ambition I'm learning. It was because the rising German industrial power looked set to eclipse ours (UK) and unlike British and USA capitalism it was not controlled by Jews. In Britain and especially in USA Jewish entrepreneurs with their talents had risen to the top in industry and banking but they held no positions of power and influence in the rising German industrial power (due to exclusionary laws I guess Biedermeier ),I have read all this,it's too complex for me to explain adequateky but basically UK + US Jewry didn't want a World Power they did not control and werent part of so they set out to destroy Germany. But we're been taught from infancy how the Germans started it by invading plucky little ukrai .,..I mean Belgium. Thus the ottoman empire,on its last legs anyway,was finished off and us Brits gave Palestine to "the Jews" as per the Bargain + now some obnoxious nobody is trying to dictate British policy as regards supporting Israeli bloodshed and insinuating anyone who objects is anti-semitic which is an invented word anyway,not a real word. Anti murder actually.
“The Bible showed that the Israelites killed every man and woman of every age, as well as the oxen, sheep, and donkeys. Only Rahab, her parents, brothers and all "those who belonged to her" were spared. They were incorporated into Israel. Joshua then cursed anybody who rebuilt the foundations and gates, with the deaths of their firstborn and youngest child respectively. This was eventually fulfilled by Hiel the Bethelite under King Ahab's reign” 1 and his firstborn and youngest died.
In the Old Testament, God ordered the complete extermination of the neighbors (even animals, which could be possessed by demons) because they were completely involved in satanic cults (pagan gods are demons). Also, racial mixing was banned due to the possibility of demonic physical contagion and the certain curse of sin for 4 generations (even more in the case of Cain or others).
Being killed by the Israelites was turned by God into a God’s blessing, when considering eternal salvation, avoiding eternal hell is more important than earthly life. For example, those innocent, especially children, would go to hell if they’d be raised by their satanic parents.
Note: The intergenerational curse is cut through Trinitarian baptism and keeping in a Christian state of grace.
The whole economy of salvation was changed by Christ’s infinite graces won at the Cross, to pay the debt of sin to Justice. Until then, to save the world, under the “rules of the game” with Satan, God had to prioritize saving His People, until Jesus family tree became so holy as to be able to enable God’s incarnation. By the way, that’s why most of the apostles were relatives.
Now, it’s easier to understand the reason behind this command:
Deuteronomy 7
3 You shall not intermarry with them, neither giving your daughters to their sons nor taking their daughters for your sons.
4 For they would turn your sons from following me to serving other gods, and then the anger of the LORD would flare up against you and he would quickly destroy you.
5 But this is how you must deal with them: Tear down their altars, smash their sacred pillars, chop down their asherahs, and destroy their idols by fire.
25 The images of their gods you shall destroy by fire. Do not covet the silver or gold on them, nor take it for yourselves, lest you be ensnared by it; for it is an abomination to the LORD, your God.
Almost funny/weird about the aspherah, because it was a symbol of the Goddess, and represented the tree of knowledge and eternal life; there was a little story that went with it that went, "whosoeverth holds the aspherah tight shall know eternal life", so; don't you know but that the two boards that Christ was tightly nailed to was in fact an aspherah; that's what that faith was supposed to be about to its believers, but the Church primarily served the wealthy in ways that I won't go into now.
In Illinois for people thinking of getting a driver's license there's a pamphlet called, "Rules of the Road", I've heard (where the hell from; right?) that there's a rule against performing magic/miracles, etcetera, do you know where to find such a copy? In reference to "rules of the game" above mentioned.
Thanks for returning the Biblical prophecies to this discussion. I do not believe that any analysis of the situation can be considered complete without acknowledging this aspect.
“Amorites and the Canaanites were only two of several different peoples occupying the land (cf. 7:1).”
Were they occupying the land, or living on it? I think the latter, and words do matter.
I think the 16,000 children is a serious undercount - I'm thinking more than 50,000 children by now... and what about polio, cholera, other diseases, amputees, death by hunger,.....
What kind of a planet are we living on? Seeing this, does humanity deserve to exist? (I have my doubts).
Do we "deserve to exist?.".. I thought so... not sure anymore...... 50,000 ??? As Bassem Youssef said in his interview with Pierce Morgan...... "Whose counting"... ...
"What kind of a planet are we living on?"... If we don't get our act together soon, it won't be the planet you are thinking about.
Caitlin, if you could, a few words about the US stealing an airplane from Venezuela the next you write, it says so much about the street gangs; the USA, Israel and the Rothschilds/Rockefeller's; and! LOL, the City of Chicago stole all the news paper boxes from the City streets so that nobody could say a disparaging word about the convention when it was here; free speech.
This just backs up almost the exact, same mind frame in a conversation I had about an hour ago. I come from an evangelical mind set of about 30 yrs in that world. A little over 6 years ago things were not slinging in my mind on this topic. There’s much more to “48” than meets the eye if one has delved into to history on this topic. “Religion” to is part of the equation as well. It being used a play book by using the Book. It one thing to read the prophesied it’s another to use to self fulfill them for a power grab to maim and kill for one’s own benefit w/o any remorse. It’s why it can be done without a second thought. WWJD means nothing to Zionists & apparently it applies to evangelicals as well. No logic, reason or commonsense applies here. This is nuts. National security, please. The inversion is out of sight. It’s tantamount to throwing a match on gasoline. It’s still about the oil & rare earth elements & it’s statically being done through a genocide with all colors & races right from here. Now that’s logical. My ass! Stop it like tomorrow whackos. Horrific.
I had pretty terrifying conversation with a very pretty young lady, who happened to be a Zionist, and a member of the Zionist Genocidal Occupation Forces... It was a chilling insight into the impacts of a lifetime of propaganda consumption - magnified by the war propaganda associated with October 7th. She totally believed it all, seemingly - even the stuff that had been completely deconstructed and debunked, about mass rapes, pregnant women being cut open, and X number of beheaded babies, in ovens.
The propaganda has been designed to hit emotional centers, not rational ones.
I sat in between my 84 yr Yiddish friend & a women who just returned from a vacation in S Korea. That women complained she had all the plans to visit Israel but Hamas attacked. She expressed delight in Israel’s right to defend & US support. Yiddish friend “What of all those children in Palestine.” We’ve waited far too long for every walking, breathing, talking Palestinian to be exterminated said Ms back from vacation in S Korea. *I got up and moved as to try and absorb the flute harp concerts rich soothing sound and pray for those “breathing” in Palestine.
This is EXACTLY equivalent to "It's time for the Final Solution to get rid of the untermenschen, because we need the lebensraum and they are inferior people who should be cleaned out." The back-from-S Korea is a Nazi.
Substack isn't letting me up vote comments right now... 👍
Apparently there's a couple comments from a malignant narcissistic Zionist Stalker that required me blocking it - to end the incessant stupidity of its replies... Ignore if that's the case, here.
Of course ! and they know that the propaganda works and not just on this subject
And this is another example: https://rumble.com/v5d4o7p-american-israeli-settler-justifies-colonialism-in-stunning-interview.html
Wow. It is unbelievable that someone can be so lacking in understanding of the world. She must just believe what she is told without ever checking anything out.
Thank you
Headlines BIG and BOLD:
Genocide Planned Before October 7th!
Genocide Pretext Collapses, Betrayal Exposed !
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And in Israeli newspapers:
BETRAYAL !!
subtext: Netanyahu scheme to sacrifice Israelis on October 7th exposed.
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* the above are the headlines if newspapers told the truth
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are there those that have wondered why LIHOP [Let It Happen On Purpose]
/ MIHOP [Made it Happen On Purpose] even matters?
now you know
I knew, instantly. But it's good to hear that the Zionist newspapers are catching-on. It feels like an "assisted" LIHOP - in that Smotrich and Ben Gvir and the ZioNazi settlers had created a situation where Hamas was essentially FORCED to respond, or give up their reason for being... And then you have the attempted Abraham Accords - and Netayahu's Palestine-free map, at the UN...It militated for a response.
Caitlin; there are no others who consistently hit the bullseye on this matter (and probably a great many others) as does yourself.
Amen!
sometimes Its just your Title that makes me hit the like button
Yes, she could have left it entirely at that.
Fiction/False: “Israel is the only place where Jews can be safe!”
Fact: "Israel is the only place where Jews are NOT safe!"
Fiction/False: “The Jews deserve a homeland!”
Fact: "Every group deserves a homeland OR No group deserves a homeland!" (The framing of "homeland" is troublesome in and of itself)
Fiction/False: “Israel is the only liberal democracy in the middle east.”
Fact: "Israel is NOT liberal and Israel is NOT a democracy."
Fiction/False: “I support Israel’s existence but I oppose the mistreatment of Palestinians.”
Fact: "I support Palestinians AND OPPOSE the existence of Israel."
Fiction/False: “Israel is essential for protecting our interests in the region.”
Fact: "Israel is essential for protecting the interests of the Empire Managers AND Global Capitalists, but it DOES NOT protect the interests of anyone else on planet Earth."
(I think Ben Shapiro disagrees with me. Too bad he doesn't understand that FACTS don't have FEELINGS) 😄
Shapiro is a bonafide coward
No, he's an EVIL "scum-of-the-earth" Capitalist (the worst kind).
Do I deserve a homeland? America has been littered wth unfortunate homeless and the propagandized drugs, mental illness. America has trillions of our tax dollars “in debt”. Want to fund a few more civilian deaths? America got affordable “higher” education? College tuition cost more than my 1st house. America gots what? Elections oh boy caste your ballot folks. Woodstock generation Granny Got refugees?
Send an unambiguous message to TPTB and to ourselves by voting for Dr. Jill Stein. We deserve knowing just how many are out there who won’t compromise on our moral values.
If Jews need a homeland, let them have one in the USA. They already own the government there. Then, there is always the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia.
Rosalind,
"They already own the government there." Only "There"????? ...
Good point, unfortunately
Yes... 'Everywhere' would probably be just as accurate...
I always thought Long Island would be perfect for that.
I rather much enjoyed Rockaway and Far Rockaway Beach in the two summers that I was there; couldn't you just give them the high end of the island?
I always thought of Florida. Sunshine, oranges, beaches and plenty of synagogues already.
Even a two state solution is a setback for the Palestinians. The one state is the only humanitarian solution.
Politicians love to use two state. It gives the appearance of being reasonable. They all use it
This is as good as any, and perhaps the best summary I have read of why no rational and even moderately intelligent and caring person can support Netanyahu, his supporters and the genocide being committed by the IDF.
It is also the only well argued and statement I have read that justifies and voices the reality: that the State of Israel ought not to exist. It was created after the British reneged on a pledge to the Arabs made to gain their assistance in ousting the Ottomans. It was partitioned on the instigation of the British after pressure from a zionist lobby group. That partitioning included *no* consultation with the Palestinians who lived there and the allocation of land justified on the known and false basis that the Palestinians were a tiny minority when, in fact, they composed 95% of the population. That partitioning and creation of 'Israel' caused the immediate dispossession of around 750,000 Palestinians and the continous, intimidation, victimisation, effective imprisonment and ill-treatment of Palestinians ever since.
All that you have to say, Caitlin, is correct. However, just as I have been, for saying it you will be labeled, incorrectly and by false logic, as an anti-Semite.
It is a sad indictment of the level of intellect of such a large number of people that they continue to justify providing armaments and funding to Israel with the argument that Israel has a 'right to defend itself.' A more disingenuous and corrupt argument I can't imagine.
That the USA, UK and others continue to supply armaments to Israel is clear evidence that they are complicit in the atrocity being committed by Israel in Gaza and the West Bank. It will stand as a blot on those nations for the rest of time and it makes me continually feel a need to retch.
Yes, there a million and one false/bad/harmful/despicable/shameful/inexcusable/immoral and otherwise wrongful happenings in the World but this, in my view anyway, is the worst and will stand in history as a perfidy equal to that which Jews in Europe suffered during the 1930's and 1940's. What makes it all the more outrageously horrific is that the perfidy is now being committed by those who were previously the victims. Until 8th October 2023, I would not have believed that possible. How wrong I was.
I agree. The saddest part of this is that so many do not realize that all Jews are not Zionists. This is the part of the debate that most seem to miss. There are many Jews out there that do not support these Zionist/ U.S. imperialist policies. Israel was not created to support the Jewish people. It was created to support Zionism and world imperialism. They are nothing less than Fascists.
Technically, I believe you to be correct. In practice, I suggest that whatever the views of the zionists who managed to successfully achieve Israel's creation or the reality that they are generally atheists, not practitioners of Judaism, the majority of Israel citizens are Jewish and Israel is seen as a Jewish State.
I also disagree that, despite the actions of zionists being the major instigation of the accession of Britain and others to the partitioning of Palestine and creation of Israel, the fact is that sympathy for the horrors experienced by Jews in WWII and will to assist and support Jews was at least as important in the decision and perhaps even more-so.
I don't believe that Israel was "created to support Zionism and world imperialsim." I consider that to be a somewhat simplistic and falsely conspiratorial view of what happened and one which ignores the context of the time. - No, I am not defending it, that ought to be obvious from my previous comments. l simply prefer a wholistic and evidenced approach to such major actions, rather than convenient but simplistic and opinonated ones, given away by claims such as: "They are nothing less than Fascists."
I’m certain that the well-deserved sympathy for Jews was used to manipulate the public, including many in government in the US and UK. But it was clear, to anyone with eyes and ears, that Israel was an unworkable concept. Its founders were already making racist, genocidal statements before 1948. Many many leaders, thinkers, organizations, including Jewish ones and including almost the entire Pentagon, warned loudly that nothing but perpetual war could come from displacing one population for another. The forces of Zionism and imperialism won, knowing it was not a good solution for Holocaust survivors.
Perhaps it would be more historically accurate to say it is being done, not by, but in the name of those who were themselves victims of persecution.
Perhaps, however I consider that my reference would be clear to most, i.e. that this atrocity in Gaza is being committed by people of the same religion as those who were demonised and horrifically persecuted for that belief before and during WWII.
To be even more accurate, 12 million goyim were kidnapped and forced to revert to their grandma's religion (Judaism) or die; an ancient practice amongst all the Abrahamic faiths, and; wouldn't you know, but rather interesting. I read a science article a few months ago about being able to determine what sort of animal it was and what they are, just from the the radioactive isotopes that remained in burnt bones. And in my comment to the author's of the article, I suggested that all those ashes from the burnt bodies be analyzed so see who actually died because they might just be animal bone ashes; well, wouldn't you know, but that there was a big out cry, because some high up in Germany had all those ashes dug up and disposed of elsewhere. Make what you will out of that.
Evil apartheid Israel is a terrorist state built in lies and as such it cannot stop lying. War sustains this evil state, peace would destroy it!
Apparently, they aren’t the only nation that feels the same. The USA clearly believes that it would collapse if the military were to lose its prominence.
Israel needs to carpet bomb all Gaza
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I only take orders from your god Caitlin
Damn, I hope you don’t tell people you love Jesus.
I don’t
I didn’t think so. God loves you no matter what your malfunction is. We are all are sinners.
Semper Fi-lol.
Ok, poop streak
Yeah, I've always said our middle east ally should be...Iran
Persia is a cultured society with thousands of years of art and the oldest rose gardens in the world. Persian people love roses.
Iran was our ally when the Shah was in power. I sometimes wonder how many of our current allies would remain steadfast if we were to remove all the military bases and the coercive economic pressures. Empire gotta empire, or expire.
He was our puppet. We put him in power and the people hated him and his terrorist regime. I was there. It was a land dominated by fear. By doing this terrible thing to get control of their oil fields, we set up the ensuing revolutions and all the trouble since.
I strongly recommend Reza Aslan’s latest book: “An American Martyr in Persia”. A well written and well researched historical perspective on an extraordinary people.
I heard on my radio a couple of hours ago,on the news report that the leader of The British Board of Deputies which is the body that represents British Jews,or so they claim,or we are told,or at least we are encouraged to think they are a legal entity with authority like the WEF and the WHO.
They are spoken of in such a way as to imply that. This man has castigated a government minister David Lammy for stopping just 30 out of 150 export licences for Arms manufactured in Britain (jobs,tax) to Israel. The Jewish leader (if he is British why is he Jewish ) is saying outright that this is Anti-semitism and that the political administration voted into authority the electorate of Britain are wrong to do what the electorate of Britain want. The mask is slipping and revealing who runs the show,or thinks they do.
This Zionist Israel’s chosen people is also undoubtedly The Jesuit Order
The Entire History on The Jesuit Order + The Plans of World Dominance full length documentary located on YouTube
Please update your understanding of the Jesuits:
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/03/28/jesuits-gaza-israel-ceasefire-247605
The Jesuits Order was started by three priests and four Jews; one has to remember that anyone, even an atheist or a Jew can become a Pope; in principle at least, as far as I'm aware of though, only about a half dozen Popes have been Jewish; the primary mission of the Catholic Church, though they say otherwise, is to preserve the mythology of Christ. That might seem like a big laugh to most, but look at the ancient gods of Babylon and Egypt; I found a 5,000 year old version of the, "Our Father", the other day, and the whole story about Christ and his mother goes back about 6,000 years, and the whole deal with Jeffrey Epstein; one of Al Capone's contemporaries (Cohen) gave him that racket) but the story goes back 7,000 years to the Goddess Ninhursag and her man (Erik?) a little iffy on the spelling anyway, "Gilgamesh". In Babylon at least, many, if not most of those God's were the equivalent to our labor unions I even remember as a child being told the backstory of what turned out to thousands of years old mythology ( never put an old number of nails in a board or the opposing forces of the sun and moon will cause the nails to become loose. Funny, you wouldn't think, but that's what sort of is going on; at least the justification for it all.
HOW The Jesuits Order was started by three priests and four Jews; one has to remember that anyone, even an atheist or a Jew can become a Pope; in principle at least, as far as I'm aware of though, only about a half dozen Popes have been Jewish
stop lying Nazi
I’m curious about the 5000 year old Our Father! I knew that much of the OT was straight out of Babylon or Egypt, but this is new. Do you have a link?
No, it's from a book by Storm Constantine, "Coming Forth by Day; A System of Khemetic Magic Book One" , I was going to type it up for one of Pope Francis's friends, but I lost the damn page.
I'll soon post the full article about the Biblical limits of Israel:
“From the river to the sea” has been penalized in some countries but only if used to back the Palestinian cause, not the Jewish one! 1
It’s a wrong interpretation of Psalm 72:8
“He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.”
Which clearly refers to Jesus and the 3 Magi from Tarshish, Sheba and Seba:
9 May the desert tribes bow before him and his enemies lick the dust.
10 May the kings of Tarshish and of distant shores bring tribute to him. May the kings of Sheba and Seba present him gifts.
11 May all kings bow down to him and all nations serve him.
The Bible contains three geographical definitions of the Land of Israel:
1. The land for all of the children of Abram (Abraham), including Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, etc. It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates" (Genesis 15:18–21):
2. After leaving Egypt, the promised land involved what now is Jordan, Iraq and part of Egypt. Only in the time of David and Solomon the territory of Israel came closest to such borders, but never reached them, especially, as far as the “Great River” (the Euphrates).
The translation “shall” could mean that they lost the right to those boundaries due to their rebellion against God which led to the 40 year dessert-walk punishment. Yet, they consider it still valid!
Deuteronomy 11:24
Every place where you set foot shall be yours: from the wilderness and the Lebanon, from the Euphrates River to the Western (Mediterranean) Sea, shall be your territory
Deuteronomy 1
7 Leave here and go to the hill country of the Amorites (central mountain range of Palestine) and to all the surrounding regions, the Arabah, the mountains, the Shephelah, the Negeb (dessert south of Palestine) and the seacoast—the land of the Canaanites and the Lebanon (mountain range of Phoenicia, north of Palestine) as far as the Great River, the Euphrates.
8 See, I have given that land over to you. Go now and possess the land that the LORD swore to your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give to them and to their descendants after them.
Note: the Amorites and the Canaanites were only two of several different peoples living on the land (cf. 7:1).
Exodus 23:31
I will set your boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines (Mediterranean), and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; all who dwell in this land I will hand over to you and you shall drive them out before you.
3. A narrower definition refers to the land that was divided between the original Twelve tribes of Israel after they conquered the “promised land”. 2
Deuteronomy 7:1
When the LORD, your God, brings you into the land which you are about to enter to possess, and removes many nations before you—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, seven nations more numerous and powerful than you—
Note: all descendants of Canaan, son of Ham and grandson of Noah, from whom they derive their collective name Canaanites. When enumerated separately, one of the seven nations is called Canaanites, while the others are called the Amorites, the Girgashites, the Hittites, the Hivites, the Jebusites and the Perizzites.3
After WW1, in 1919, that Biblical definition was used by the British to define Palestine, preparing that land for a future Israel. 4
Conclusion: for the fundamentalist biblical Zionists “from the river to the sea”, clearly involves the river Euphrates, or at least it’s sources. They won’t stop until conquering Iran.
This is worse than Nazi lebensraum (livig space), they want more living space than they need:
• 1929. Vladimir Jabotinski: "The Jordan has two banks; this one is ours, and the other one too." 5
• 2024. Netanyahu said: “In any future arrangement … Israel needs security control over all territory west of the Jordan River. This collides with the idea of (Palestinian) sovereignty …” 6
They consider the Palestines in Gaza equal to the Philistines7, and that the Bible entitles them to obliterate them in spite of the Bible itself, clearly leaving out the Philistines:
Exodus 23:23
My angel will go before you and bring you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites; and I will wipe them out.
Judges 3
1. These are the nations the LORD allowed to remain, so that through them he might test Israel, all those who had not experienced any of the Canaanite wars—
2 to teach warfare to those generations of Israelites who had never experienced it:
3 the five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites who lived in the mountain region of the Lebanon between Baal-hermon and Lebo-hamath.
some Zionists keep interpreting that it’s not the Messiah/God that will grant them glory, but that they must dominate the world in order to handle the power to the Messiah.
To justify global domination, they take certain passages out of context. Especially those referring to the mystical city of God, Zion, applied to the earthen Israel. For example:
Isahiah 60
10 … their kings shall minister to you ...
11 … So that they may bring you the wealth of nations,...
12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you shall perish; such nations shall be utterly destroyed!
13 The glory of Lebanon shall come to you ...
14 … All those who despised you, shall bow low at your feet. ...
16 You shall suck the milk of nations,
They conveniently omit:
15 … Now I will make you the pride of the ages, ...
It is not them who are to rule the world but God. God will make them the pride of the ages, not them!
Also, they don’t consider the whole chapter, which clearly refers to the Messiah and the 3 Magi (v. 6-9) and the end times.
Some Christians justify a “right” to genocide Gaza by saying that in the Old Testament, God gave Israel all the land from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates – the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites. “From the River to the sea” should be from the river (Euphrates) to the sea (the Mediterranean Sea) and that’s why a 2-State solution is anti-Biblical.
In the Old Testament, God commanded Israel to go to war, but only through a prophet. All other war efforts failed, because they were not under God's command, just human self-destructive whim. Netanyahu is clearly no prophet. Since the rejection of Jesus, the Messiah, Israel has no prophet, no Temple, no Sacrifice, no priests, no Levites, no scrolls, no sacred vases, no High Priest (replaced by the new Pontiff, Peter), nothing! They even got their scriptures from the Christian parchments.
Instead of fighting their semite brothers (Ishmaelites/arabs), and Christians, who also believe in a coming Messiah, why not all wait in peace until He comes and settles all disputes?
In 191 I have recently learned,the Germans had,by all previous conventional standards WON World War One. But that was not "the required result" so the whole bloody carnage was kept ticking over and thousands of people dying horrible deaths while "the required result" was engineered into place. To be brief,the UK government made a deal with the USA Jew financiers that if USA entered the War they would be given the land of Palestine as a reward on which to establish a Jewish state. So in 1917 USA with it's then immense wealth entered the War,and also Tanks were introduced that ended the trenches stalemate. And WW1 was engineered into place FOR THIS RESULT. It was not about bombastic German ambition I'm learning. It was because the rising German industrial power looked set to eclipse ours (UK) and unlike British and USA capitalism it was not controlled by Jews. In Britain and especially in USA Jewish entrepreneurs with their talents had risen to the top in industry and banking but they held no positions of power and influence in the rising German industrial power (due to exclusionary laws I guess Biedermeier ),I have read all this,it's too complex for me to explain adequateky but basically UK + US Jewry didn't want a World Power they did not control and werent part of so they set out to destroy Germany. But we're been taught from infancy how the Germans started it by invading plucky little ukrai .,..I mean Belgium. Thus the ottoman empire,on its last legs anyway,was finished off and us Brits gave Palestine to "the Jews" as per the Bargain + now some obnoxious nobody is trying to dictate British policy as regards supporting Israeli bloodshed and insinuating anyone who objects is anti-semitic which is an invented word anyway,not a real word. Anti murder actually.
I thank God I don't believe in the Old Testament. What it calls "God" is a devil.
“The Bible showed that the Israelites killed every man and woman of every age, as well as the oxen, sheep, and donkeys. Only Rahab, her parents, brothers and all "those who belonged to her" were spared. They were incorporated into Israel. Joshua then cursed anybody who rebuilt the foundations and gates, with the deaths of their firstborn and youngest child respectively. This was eventually fulfilled by Hiel the Bethelite under King Ahab's reign” 1 and his firstborn and youngest died.
In the Old Testament, God ordered the complete extermination of the neighbors (even animals, which could be possessed by demons) because they were completely involved in satanic cults (pagan gods are demons). Also, racial mixing was banned due to the possibility of demonic physical contagion and the certain curse of sin for 4 generations (even more in the case of Cain or others).
Being killed by the Israelites was turned by God into a God’s blessing, when considering eternal salvation, avoiding eternal hell is more important than earthly life. For example, those innocent, especially children, would go to hell if they’d be raised by their satanic parents.
Note: The intergenerational curse is cut through Trinitarian baptism and keeping in a Christian state of grace.
The whole economy of salvation was changed by Christ’s infinite graces won at the Cross, to pay the debt of sin to Justice. Until then, to save the world, under the “rules of the game” with Satan, God had to prioritize saving His People, until Jesus family tree became so holy as to be able to enable God’s incarnation. By the way, that’s why most of the apostles were relatives.
Now, it’s easier to understand the reason behind this command:
Deuteronomy 7
3 You shall not intermarry with them, neither giving your daughters to their sons nor taking their daughters for your sons.
4 For they would turn your sons from following me to serving other gods, and then the anger of the LORD would flare up against you and he would quickly destroy you.
5 But this is how you must deal with them: Tear down their altars, smash their sacred pillars, chop down their asherahs, and destroy their idols by fire.
25 The images of their gods you shall destroy by fire. Do not covet the silver or gold on them, nor take it for yourselves, lest you be ensnared by it; for it is an abomination to the LORD, your God.
Almost funny/weird about the aspherah, because it was a symbol of the Goddess, and represented the tree of knowledge and eternal life; there was a little story that went with it that went, "whosoeverth holds the aspherah tight shall know eternal life", so; don't you know but that the two boards that Christ was tightly nailed to was in fact an aspherah; that's what that faith was supposed to be about to its believers, but the Church primarily served the wealthy in ways that I won't go into now.
In Illinois for people thinking of getting a driver's license there's a pamphlet called, "Rules of the Road", I've heard (where the hell from; right?) that there's a rule against performing magic/miracles, etcetera, do you know where to find such a copy? In reference to "rules of the game" above mentioned.
Thanks for returning the Biblical prophecies to this discussion. I do not believe that any analysis of the situation can be considered complete without acknowledging this aspect.
“Amorites and the Canaanites were only two of several different peoples occupying the land (cf. 7:1).”
Were they occupying the land, or living on it? I think the latter, and words do matter.
I've just corrected it. Thank you!
Wonderful. Thanks so much for sharing all this info.
16,000 children.... repeat..... 16,000 + murdered children .... Is there any rhetoric, in any language, anywhere, that fits.....
I think the 16,000 children is a serious undercount - I'm thinking more than 50,000 children by now... and what about polio, cholera, other diseases, amputees, death by hunger,.....
What kind of a planet are we living on? Seeing this, does humanity deserve to exist? (I have my doubts).
Chang,
Do we "deserve to exist?.".. I thought so... not sure anymore...... 50,000 ??? As Bassem Youssef said in his interview with Pierce Morgan...... "Whose counting"... ...
"What kind of a planet are we living on?"... If we don't get our act together soon, it won't be the planet you are thinking about.
The total estimated death toll was 200,00 as of a couple of months ago; if as they say, most are children, then it's at least 100,000
Elsewhere in the news dung beetle are claimed to use the stars at night for navigation.
Fascinating this. These are the first insects discovered, more than a decade ago, that use starlight, in the dung beetle’s case they use the Milky Way, to navigate at night. https://www.science.org/content/article/dung-beetles-navigate-milky-way
Caitlin, if you could, a few words about the US stealing an airplane from Venezuela the next you write, it says so much about the street gangs; the USA, Israel and the Rothschilds/Rockefeller's; and! LOL, the City of Chicago stole all the news paper boxes from the City streets so that nobody could say a disparaging word about the convention when it was here; free speech.
Oh & I don’t like this damn thing spelling for me! Not slinging but aligning. I know how to spell! Proofreading is another story.
This just backs up almost the exact, same mind frame in a conversation I had about an hour ago. I come from an evangelical mind set of about 30 yrs in that world. A little over 6 years ago things were not slinging in my mind on this topic. There’s much more to “48” than meets the eye if one has delved into to history on this topic. “Religion” to is part of the equation as well. It being used a play book by using the Book. It one thing to read the prophesied it’s another to use to self fulfill them for a power grab to maim and kill for one’s own benefit w/o any remorse. It’s why it can be done without a second thought. WWJD means nothing to Zionists & apparently it applies to evangelicals as well. No logic, reason or commonsense applies here. This is nuts. National security, please. The inversion is out of sight. It’s tantamount to throwing a match on gasoline. It’s still about the oil & rare earth elements & it’s statically being done through a genocide with all colors & races right from here. Now that’s logical. My ass! Stop it like tomorrow whackos. Horrific.