CJ>>"Some guy told me, “Why are you fine with the existence of approximately 50 Islamic nation-states, but the single Jewish one is apparently too many?”
I showed him an illustration of a nail stuck in somebody’s foot and said, “Why are you fine with an entire foot made of flesh, but a single metal spike is too much? The only possible explanation is that you have a seething hatred of metal. It can’t possibly be that you object to a foreign object being violently forced into a region where it does damage.”"
Love it, love it, love it! What I'm learning most from you, Caitlin, is HOW to rebut and argue with 'dumb mf*ckers' and 'empire bootlickers' (and hopefully make them see sense from a different perspective).
Caitlin, I have a suggestion for you - I think it would be VERY VALUABLE if you were to write a book about "How to argue with unreasonable and limited-intelligence people" using analogies, examples, different perspectives, etc. (as you do with ALL your articles) - kind of like a 'Jujutsu Bible' for argumentation.
Here is the link I just came across it. Be skeptical about these new accounts (Joe with 17 followers). They are usually very nasty and I suspect paid ZioShills. I have seen them pose as Trump supporters. You will recognize them from their ad hominem attacks. It dawned on me that I have seen them before posing as Liberals (did I get that right Chang lol).
I think the overarching goal is to create hate and disgust. Make one side think the other is completely immoral and stupid. Basically keep the masses from uniting.
This just proves that both their brains and their hearts aren't working right. The zionists think the words words words will solve their image problems when what they really need to solve is their total lack of compassion and empathy. (But try telling them that! It will be their downfall. Can't wait!)
Maybe it's a case of "If I keep ddfending them, one day they will let me in and I, too, can become, at least, a millionaire." Do not be fooled, you can only get into that club if you already have billions. Millionaires are ten a penny in their thinking, not much more than what the billionaires earn daily.
First serious realization,, nationalism is necessary but it ain't sufficient. We'll see how pure you can afford to be while struggling to keep your vital supply lines and national docs in order. Bless you and your dreams dear Davina. You will have to share more of your vision (any links of you stretching out on this solid ground of 'where y'all are coming from?') of where essentially you are coming from and where you are hoping to get to (besides a safe harbor in our time and places controlled by the Tech Broligarchy and Shavian Military Machines....*****
George Carlin - It's A BIG Club & You Ain't In It!
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'They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests.'
'It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.'
George Carlin - Life Is Worth Losing
Recorded 5 Nov 2005, Beacon Theater, New York City, New York
Released: January 10, 2006
*****
In reference to issues of our Nationalist Marketplace of Enforcement Capabilities:
Get back to US when you can answer these queries any better than the Washington aligned (or opposed) Real Power Brokers and Wall Street to London's Bankers! It would help if you had George Carlin's sense of humor when you try applying reason to these reasonable requests replying to "Where are you coming from vis a vis International Relations & Organized Movements?"
Not that simple. Fascist US/EU/UK/CA/AU/NZ, etc. will soon outlaw anti-israelism like they did with anti-semitism and anti-zionism. All these arguments are pure BS, but we are talking about depraved "west". Palestinians are true Semitics while white khazarian converts, settlers, and invaders are absolutely not. There is no limit to ugliness of lying western uncivilization.
WARNING!!! Substack is hiding several messages that are critical of khazar settlers and israel. Not the first time. The censorship of israel-critical content has also started here. So called western "freedoms".
I think after 80 years of killing, torture and raping, plus all the other horrors visited on Palestinians plus the other Islamic countries, it is safe to say - that is all israelis do because that is all it has done in it's very, very short term as a self- announced state for all jews, whether the jews wanted to be lumped in with them or not, and it seems rather a lot do not have any wish to be dragged into, even remotely, the zionist state of israel, home of the worst possible acts of one set of so-called humans on the occupied fully human Palestinians, who are bearing, what the israelis think, is mistaken revenge for the holocaust. Yet the actual perpetrators behind it were and are zionists using jews, once again, to increase the zionist's wealth. Zionists that will happily encourage bombing israel when their usefulness is over, or they become too much hard work now that the world is awake to what is taking place, and for the many jews, who hate that the pretence is; it is being done in their name.
Sounds idealistic and surely a prettier vision of World Order than the militaristic via Tech Bros scheme of things and hierarchies.
However, at some point you have to come with an alternative Global Order or System of Relations. Which is why I raised George Bernard Shaw's (hence "Shavian") visionary global alternatives to what is referred to by the world's military leaders (the real power behind the Business classes & Socio-Economists aka in academia as an inter-disciplinary worldview referred to as ) as REAL POLITIK and extant international power brokers interrelated organizations and institutions referred to as:
Yes, many good Jewish people are appalled at what this zionist regime is doing, and it is *that regime* which tries to tarnish all Jewish people with its crimes by calling itself "The Jewish State" which is exactly the theme that attempts to conflate anti-zionism with anti-semitism. But "anti-zionism" is an incorrect term to use, since historical zionism is linked to Jewish homeland. Best to just be anti-isra3l.
"Zionism means genocide, apartheid, and nonstop wars and abuse."
There ya go. If you're against genocide, apartheid and nonstop wars and abuse, then you can stand proud as an anti-Zionist. And an anti-trillionaire as well. There's no good to come from anyone individual worth more than several countries' GNPs combined.
I can think of nothing worse than consorting with zionists to become a millionaire. I'd rather cut my own throat than in any way assassinate with such a group of evil, murdering racists.
"It’s so gross how many fawning admirers this freak still has. The trillionaire is not your friend."
Gross, but it is the reality. His admirers don't want friends, they lust to be like Musk, with ever many fawning admirers themselves. The reason America cannot control its ugly rich is because so many want to be ugly rich themselves.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." ~ John Steinbeck
I'd guess he'd have to change it now to temporarily embarrassed billionaires. The more things change . . . the worse they get.
Note: I've been informed that this quote is misattributed to Steinbeck, but his actual quote was actually better. My cohort on The Radical Progressives page on Facebook posted this when I posted this meme: "This quotation is misattributed to Steinbeck. The quotation comes from Ronald Wright's book "A Short History of Progress" in which Wright was paraphrasing Steinbeck's sentiment, more or less accurately, from Steinbeck's remarks on the HUAC communist investigations. Reading the full Steinbeck quotation reveals even more insight:
“Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: ‘After the revolution even we will have more, won’t we, dear?’ Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property.
"I guess the trouble was that we didn’t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew—at least they claimed to be Communists—couldn’t have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves.”"
Those admirers do not see themselves as poor people - merely as "temporarily embarrassed millionaires", who will finally gain their rightful inheritance provided they bend their knees and lick the boots of the Anointed One, while stamping down on the faces of any who dare challenge their assertion that this is the Natural Order of humanity.
Yes, Diane but these ghouls have no shame. All that money is not deserved. Like Real Estate business: buy cheap sell expensive. What a genius idea!?! What an amazing "contribution" to humanity. All human problems solved! The economic model of the fascist western uncivilization: tens/hundreds of millions grossly underpaid so that very very few will be grotesquely overpaid to give a picture of individual "success". Paypal Musk! The entire western uncivilization and their supremacist ideology is based on exploiting and reinforcing the worst in humans: Greed, cheating, lying, and corruption.
And antisemitism finds its roots in Christian Europe not in Palestine or the Muslim world. The “Jewish Problem”, the “Jewish Question”, “Holocaust “, “Pogroms”, “Blood Libel”, “Deicide” are European terms. As early as the 4Century, St Augustine, one of the architects of European Christianity, formulated in his book The City of God, specific arguments that Jews must be preserved but in a condition of visible degradation, stateless, dispersed and humiliated as living proof that God punished them for rejecting Christ. This creative theological architecture gave the European church a doctrine of Jewish misery which was institutionally enforced.
I find it very ironic that under Islam in Palestine, Jewish canaanites (Palestinians) where taxed but were allowed to freely practice their religion, dispensed from going to war to kill and be killed and enjoy hummus and falafel with their fellow Palestinians. Today, Jews pay a lot of tax and are obliged to go to constant wars to kill and maim and inflict suffering on their former neighbors and protectors.
Let's not forget that Jews, Christians,Arabs Persians and others all live in Iran peacefully. That is Until Israel and Trump bombed the hell out of them. Israel is a terrorist ethnic state with No Reason to continue to exist. The trillionaire and multi billionaires should all be hung and their ill-gotten gains spread far and wide.
Our society is good only in creating a few billionaires and one trillionaire while impoverishing huge numbers of people thru AI and predatory capitalism. It is like going back to the feudal society where one lord would rule over thousands of serfs. That system was overthrown since it was cruel and unsustainable. Our present predatory capitalist system likewise is unsustainable and will hopefully be replaced with a more humane system in the not so distant future.
Musk is marketed like the latest shiny electronic gadget. "Ooooo, he's so cool. I want to be like him."
What about him is inspiring? His ideas that human beings are unnecessary? His ideas on transhumanism, plugging us all in to get at our data? WHAT? Honestly, I am repulsed.
Words words words. Lies lies lies. Trying to confuse us. Some of us are not confused. We are angry. We know that being a trillionaire means that people have been down trodden and lied to. Some of know that money does not equal success. Success is being able to see the world clearly. It is knowing that we need to take steps to stop the environment from collapsing. Our leaders are not successful. They have not stopped or even slowed down climate change. They start wars and our children and friends die. They think they are successful because they can hide in their bunkers and on their islands. They are scum.
Beautiful analogy--"I showed him an illustration of a nail stuck in somebody’s foot and said, “Why are you fine with an entire foot made of flesh, but a single metal spike is too much? The only possible explanation is that you have a seething hatred of metal. It can’t possibly be that you object to a foreign object being violently forced into a region where it does damage.”
Funny isn't it. Living on Mars would require you to live under ground (radiation) Without an atmosphere high energy Protons would destroy you unless underground for long periods of time. Maybe we could take the atmosphere we are destroying on Earth and transport that to Mars, then we could live in bunkers on Earth hahahahha.
Yes, to quote Hamlet, who is simply not at all satisfied with the answers he gets concerning the murder of his father: interchangeable, meaningless words: words, words. The same can be said of so many issues, starting with the wholesale murder and barefaced robbery of Palestinians. They should have the decency at least to shut the hell up. But "decency" is not in the lexicon, in any respect.
CJ>>"Some guy told me, “Why are you fine with the existence of approximately 50 Islamic nation-states, but the single Jewish one is apparently too many?”
I showed him an illustration of a nail stuck in somebody’s foot and said, “Why are you fine with an entire foot made of flesh, but a single metal spike is too much? The only possible explanation is that you have a seething hatred of metal. It can’t possibly be that you object to a foreign object being violently forced into a region where it does damage.”"
Love it, love it, love it! What I'm learning most from you, Caitlin, is HOW to rebut and argue with 'dumb mf*ckers' and 'empire bootlickers' (and hopefully make them see sense from a different perspective).
Caitlin, I have a suggestion for you - I think it would be VERY VALUABLE if you were to write a book about "How to argue with unreasonable and limited-intelligence people" using analogies, examples, different perspectives, etc. (as you do with ALL your articles) - kind of like a 'Jujutsu Bible' for argumentation.
Thank you and much love as always! ❤️🙏
Here is the link I just came across it. Be skeptical about these new accounts (Joe with 17 followers). They are usually very nasty and I suspect paid ZioShills. I have seen them pose as Trump supporters. You will recognize them from their ad hominem attacks. It dawned on me that I have seen them before posing as Liberals (did I get that right Chang lol).
I think the overarching goal is to create hate and disgust. Make one side think the other is completely immoral and stupid. Basically keep the masses from uniting.
https://x.com/caitoz/status/2065920809076756910?s=46
And it's absurd that they think this is just a messaging problem. They just have a morality problem is more like it.
This just proves that both their brains and their hearts aren't working right. The zionists think the words words words will solve their image problems when what they really need to solve is their total lack of compassion and empathy. (But try telling them that! It will be their downfall. Can't wait!)
Maybe it's a case of "If I keep ddfending them, one day they will let me in and I, too, can become, at least, a millionaire." Do not be fooled, you can only get into that club if you already have billions. Millionaires are ten a penny in their thinking, not much more than what the billionaires earn daily.
First serious realization,, nationalism is necessary but it ain't sufficient. We'll see how pure you can afford to be while struggling to keep your vital supply lines and national docs in order. Bless you and your dreams dear Davina. You will have to share more of your vision (any links of you stretching out on this solid ground of 'where y'all are coming from?') of where essentially you are coming from and where you are hoping to get to (besides a safe harbor in our time and places controlled by the Tech Broligarchy and Shavian Military Machines....*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso
George Carlin - It's A BIG Club & You Ain't In It!
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'They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests.'
'It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.'
George Carlin - Life Is Worth Losing
Recorded 5 Nov 2005, Beacon Theater, New York City, New York
Released: January 10, 2006
*****
In reference to issues of our Nationalist Marketplace of Enforcement Capabilities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Barbara
Get back to US when you can answer these queries any better than the Washington aligned (or opposed) Real Power Brokers and Wall Street to London's Bankers! It would help if you had George Carlin's sense of humor when you try applying reason to these reasonable requests replying to "Where are you coming from vis a vis International Relations & Organized Movements?"
Genuinely yours,
Tio Mitchito
TM
Mitch Ritter
Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers
Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of A-Tone-ment Seekers)
Media Discussion List\Looksee
Not that simple. Fascist US/EU/UK/CA/AU/NZ, etc. will soon outlaw anti-israelism like they did with anti-semitism and anti-zionism. All these arguments are pure BS, but we are talking about depraved "west". Palestinians are true Semitics while white khazarian converts, settlers, and invaders are absolutely not. There is no limit to ugliness of lying western uncivilization.
WARNING!!! Substack is hiding several messages that are critical of khazar settlers and israel. Not the first time. The censorship of israel-critical content has also started here. So called western "freedoms".
They believe different.
What We All See
We can all see it now—
the map bleeding checkpoints,
the wall slicing olive groves,
the children counting bombs instead of stars.
Zionism’s shadow stretches across decades:
1948, a door slammed on a homeland;
1967, another cage built;
2024, the world’s courts whispering plausible genocide
as flour trucks wait at checkpoints
and hospitals become rubble.
Apartheid is not a rumor—
it is the road that separates,
the ID that decides who drinks,
the law that writes one people as guests in their own ruin.
And the wars? They never end.
They just rename themselves:
Iron Sword, Protective Edge,
each one a fresh wound over an old scar.
The abuse is the daily math of occupation:
soldiers at dawn, curfews,
the drone’s unblinking eye above every prayer.
We can all see it now.
The only question left
is whether looking
will ever become
stopping.
I think after 80 years of killing, torture and raping, plus all the other horrors visited on Palestinians plus the other Islamic countries, it is safe to say - that is all israelis do because that is all it has done in it's very, very short term as a self- announced state for all jews, whether the jews wanted to be lumped in with them or not, and it seems rather a lot do not have any wish to be dragged into, even remotely, the zionist state of israel, home of the worst possible acts of one set of so-called humans on the occupied fully human Palestinians, who are bearing, what the israelis think, is mistaken revenge for the holocaust. Yet the actual perpetrators behind it were and are zionists using jews, once again, to increase the zionist's wealth. Zionists that will happily encourage bombing israel when their usefulness is over, or they become too much hard work now that the world is awake to what is taking place, and for the many jews, who hate that the pretence is; it is being done in their name.
Sounds idealistic and surely a prettier vision of World Order than the militaristic via Tech Bros scheme of things and hierarchies.
However, at some point you have to come with an alternative Global Order or System of Relations. Which is why I raised George Bernard Shaw's (hence "Shavian") visionary global alternatives to what is referred to by the world's military leaders (the real power behind the Business classes & Socio-Economists aka in academia as an inter-disciplinary worldview referred to as ) as REAL POLITIK and extant international power brokers interrelated organizations and institutions referred to as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Barbara
Get back to US with some sense of "Where are you coming from?" "Where are you hoping to get to and with whom?"
Genuinely and curiously yours,
Tio Mitchito
TM
Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers
Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of A-Tone-ment Seekers)
Media Discussion List\Looksee
Yes, many good Jewish people are appalled at what this zionist regime is doing, and it is *that regime* which tries to tarnish all Jewish people with its crimes by calling itself "The Jewish State" which is exactly the theme that attempts to conflate anti-zionism with anti-semitism. But "anti-zionism" is an incorrect term to use, since historical zionism is linked to Jewish homeland. Best to just be anti-isra3l.
Well said
🌹
"Zionism means genocide, apartheid, and nonstop wars and abuse."
There ya go. If you're against genocide, apartheid and nonstop wars and abuse, then you can stand proud as an anti-Zionist. And an anti-trillionaire as well. There's no good to come from anyone individual worth more than several countries' GNPs combined.
I can think of nothing worse than consorting with zionists to become a millionaire. I'd rather cut my own throat than in any way assassinate with such a group of evil, murdering racists.
"It’s so gross how many fawning admirers this freak still has. The trillionaire is not your friend."
Gross, but it is the reality. His admirers don't want friends, they lust to be like Musk, with ever many fawning admirers themselves. The reason America cannot control its ugly rich is because so many want to be ugly rich themselves.
In Mammon We Trust.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." ~ John Steinbeck
I'd guess he'd have to change it now to temporarily embarrassed billionaires. The more things change . . . the worse they get.
Note: I've been informed that this quote is misattributed to Steinbeck, but his actual quote was actually better. My cohort on The Radical Progressives page on Facebook posted this when I posted this meme: "This quotation is misattributed to Steinbeck. The quotation comes from Ronald Wright's book "A Short History of Progress" in which Wright was paraphrasing Steinbeck's sentiment, more or less accurately, from Steinbeck's remarks on the HUAC communist investigations. Reading the full Steinbeck quotation reveals even more insight:
“Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: ‘After the revolution even we will have more, won’t we, dear?’ Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property.
"I guess the trouble was that we didn’t have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew—at least they claimed to be Communists—couldn’t have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves.”"
And the more things don't change, the worse it will become.
Those admirers do not see themselves as poor people - merely as "temporarily embarrassed millionaires", who will finally gain their rightful inheritance provided they bend their knees and lick the boots of the Anointed One, while stamping down on the faces of any who dare challenge their assertion that this is the Natural Order of humanity.
In Mammon we lust!
🎯
Being the world’s first billionaire is nothing to be proud of; it should come with more shame, outrage and ostracism than a Scarlet Letter!
Yes, Diane but these ghouls have no shame. All that money is not deserved. Like Real Estate business: buy cheap sell expensive. What a genius idea!?! What an amazing "contribution" to humanity. All human problems solved! The economic model of the fascist western uncivilization: tens/hundreds of millions grossly underpaid so that very very few will be grotesquely overpaid to give a picture of individual "success". Paypal Musk! The entire western uncivilization and their supremacist ideology is based on exploiting and reinforcing the worst in humans: Greed, cheating, lying, and corruption.
And antisemitism finds its roots in Christian Europe not in Palestine or the Muslim world. The “Jewish Problem”, the “Jewish Question”, “Holocaust “, “Pogroms”, “Blood Libel”, “Deicide” are European terms. As early as the 4Century, St Augustine, one of the architects of European Christianity, formulated in his book The City of God, specific arguments that Jews must be preserved but in a condition of visible degradation, stateless, dispersed and humiliated as living proof that God punished them for rejecting Christ. This creative theological architecture gave the European church a doctrine of Jewish misery which was institutionally enforced.
I find it very ironic that under Islam in Palestine, Jewish canaanites (Palestinians) where taxed but were allowed to freely practice their religion, dispensed from going to war to kill and be killed and enjoy hummus and falafel with their fellow Palestinians. Today, Jews pay a lot of tax and are obliged to go to constant wars to kill and maim and inflict suffering on their former neighbors and protectors.
Let us not forget that the tax was paid by both Christians and Jews in lieu of the mandatory Waqf, or charity, payments Muslims were required to pay.
Yes. That’s true
Let's not forget that Jews, Christians,Arabs Persians and others all live in Iran peacefully. That is Until Israel and Trump bombed the hell out of them. Israel is a terrorist ethnic state with No Reason to continue to exist. The trillionaire and multi billionaires should all be hung and their ill-gotten gains spread far and wide.
Our society is good only in creating a few billionaires and one trillionaire while impoverishing huge numbers of people thru AI and predatory capitalism. It is like going back to the feudal society where one lord would rule over thousands of serfs. That system was overthrown since it was cruel and unsustainable. Our present predatory capitalist system likewise is unsustainable and will hopefully be replaced with a more humane system in the not so distant future.
See “Techno-Feudalism,” by Yannis Varoufakis,
Love Yannis!
I see the belief in hierarchy as the problem. It's the same thing as the loss of sovereignty or the giving away of sovereignty.
Musk is marketed like the latest shiny electronic gadget. "Ooooo, he's so cool. I want to be like him."
What about him is inspiring? His ideas that human beings are unnecessary? His ideas on transhumanism, plugging us all in to get at our data? WHAT? Honestly, I am repulsed.
Words words words. Lies lies lies. Trying to confuse us. Some of us are not confused. We are angry. We know that being a trillionaire means that people have been down trodden and lied to. Some of know that money does not equal success. Success is being able to see the world clearly. It is knowing that we need to take steps to stop the environment from collapsing. Our leaders are not successful. They have not stopped or even slowed down climate change. They start wars and our children and friends die. They think they are successful because they can hide in their bunkers and on their islands. They are scum.
Excelent! Thank you very much. From my place in the south, all that in the north, east and west, seems so crazy..
How ironic that a man who hoards old newspapers has a mental problem but a man who hoards money is a hero on the cover of Forbes magazine.
Beautiful analogy--"I showed him an illustration of a nail stuck in somebody’s foot and said, “Why are you fine with an entire foot made of flesh, but a single metal spike is too much? The only possible explanation is that you have a seething hatred of metal. It can’t possibly be that you object to a foreign object being violently forced into a region where it does damage.”
Word after awesome word. Thank you, Caitlin.
Musk's IPO is merely a wealth transfer vehicle. Mars, is that a joke?
(Fortunately, I am not as dumb as dog shit).
Funny isn't it. Living on Mars would require you to live under ground (radiation) Without an atmosphere high energy Protons would destroy you unless underground for long periods of time. Maybe we could take the atmosphere we are destroying on Earth and transport that to Mars, then we could live in bunkers on Earth hahahahha.
Yes, to quote Hamlet, who is simply not at all satisfied with the answers he gets concerning the murder of his father: interchangeable, meaningless words: words, words. The same can be said of so many issues, starting with the wholesale murder and barefaced robbery of Palestinians. They should have the decency at least to shut the hell up. But "decency" is not in the lexicon, in any respect.