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Feral Finster's avatar

Without even going into free speech concerns, this is woke logic taken to its ultimate conclusion. Rather than saying something is offensive because a reasonable person would deem it offensive, something is offensive because the listener decides to be offended.

rakyat kecil's avatar

G'day FF is neocon, neoliberal capitalism still woke or is everything woke. It is getting overused and becoming blame.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

Most western nations are doing their best to gaslight the rest of us when it comes to the genocide in Palestine. It's a very true reflection of the character of the powerful of the western world, and that's something they can't hide.

Susan T's avatar
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Diana; The US is leading the pack with this, as in the murder by Jonathan Ross of Renee Good by telling us a made up story when video from all angles shows it is made up. Now the Australians are using a tragedy to promote their false narrative. Israel is at the top of the list for this kind of gaslighting and the US follows close behind. The entire world is being turned upside down so that genocide and tyranny can prevail.

dale ruff's avatar

Please stop promoting misinformation. Many Western nations have denounced Israel's war, including Spain: "The Spanish government has explicitly described the situation in Gaza as genocide

Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has publicly used the word “genocide” to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza, saying the scale of civilian deaths and destruction amounts to extermination of a defenseless population and pushing measures against Israel on that basis.

Spain announced nine government measures aimed at pressuring Israel to end what it said was a genocide — including an arms embargo, restrictions on shipping and flights supporting Israeli forces, and barring individuals involved in “genocide, human rights violations and war crimes” from entering Spain."

"28 Western countries issued a joint statement saying the war must end now and explicitly condemning the “inhumane killing of civilians,” restriction of humanitarian aid, and conditions that violate international humanitarian law. Countries in that group include:

Britain

Canada

France

Italy

Spain

Sweden

Norway

Belgium

Denmark

Finland

Austria

Netherlands

Portugal

Ireland, and others."

It almost seems like you WANT Western nations to stay silent, short of y9ur being just ignorant of the widespread denunciations.

Fran Carbonaro's avatar

And yet Israel’s killing goes on: an average of five a day, since the SHAM “ceasefire” was announced. Denunciations without action are not enough! Israel must be stopped. As well as their buddies in the Trump administration.

rakyat kecil's avatar

Words are cover for lack of action dale, a two state solution has been talked about for twenty years are we there yet or any closer now????

Barney's avatar

England is arresting people for anti zionotC comments.

Chris He's avatar

Ever heard the expression 'Window dressing'? Nothing but empty words here. Face it, your disgusting culture is done! Self-immolated!

It's so sickening to see a defender of the indefensible. The Western nations have committed the ultimate crime- with few exeptions. Genocide is their fiercely protected game. Zio-Nazis all!

The SS beats up their still functional citizens.

The swine leading these nations are outlaws and terrorists. Disgusting, vile creatures. Like those who mince words, instead of screaming in opposition.-

NonZionistWorld's avatar

I read your long, over use of misinformation and bs I needed to reply because you forget to mention ANYTHING about what the GOVERNMENTS of your extended country list are doing, hmm. I can tell you now running through your bs message you miss this CRITICAL piece of information!

Just in case you DIDN'T understand about this ''statement'' NONE (bar Spain & Slovenia) of these approved or signed by a government representative, and if you haven't worked out after 2.3 years of a genocide that unless GOVERNMENTS ban, or stop arms sales to America and Israel the genocide and bombings are not going to stop. Go get a lesson on geopolitics before you belittle others comments, because from my base you spout cr@p without research and factual information, and correct your above comments to at least make people understand about the crucial fact of GOVERNMENT interactions and external NON-GOVERNMENT entities signing a statement!

You had the audacity to include Britain, Germany, France, Canada, Netherlands... you're message is so laughable because the reality is so wrong! All minus Slovenia and Spain are STILL involved in either providing diplomatic cover, arms, military personnel, training, funding, legal backing and Germany is the 2nd largest provider of arms to Israel, with Britain and Canada not far behind. The amount of US and British miliary bases in Europe and the Gulf region that are being used by Israeli IOF, CIA/Mossad is astounding! Also in the aspect literally EVERY SINGLE one of these countries governments are Zionist funded, ruled and lead e.g., Britain: Starmer (aka StarVer) - he's a full Zionist and has stated so and his full support for Israel, France, Canada, Sweden (not so ABBA!), Italy (mini Hitler in a female form), Austria (Hitler x 2), Germany (where do I begin; 3rd genocide under their belt!), etc., etc., etc. refer comments on Britain as they are ALL Zionist lead governments.

I'll finish there and hopefully you get the drift of your mis-representation of using a ''statement'' in the wrong context of what Caitlin's article was actually about.

David Avenell's avatar

You left out Turkiye - their Govt produced and published an excellent video on the genocide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtoWptrhPOM&t=3s

The Revolution Continues's avatar

"This entire country has lost its damn mind."

I was hoping that not every Western country had lost its mind, but that was a vain hope. We'll need to get them all into group therapy and perhaps administer psychotropic drugs to return them to sanity. Or we could just shut down the apartheid regime and Free Palestine.

Loam's avatar

Accused of antisemitism for being a redhead, wearing a white shirt, a green jacket, and black pants. "That's the Palestinian flag!" the prosecution shouted.

TriTorch's avatar

A refrain:

Give up your free speech at your peril. Once they are able to silence you, the game is over. The loss of all of your other freedoms will fall like dominos after. Anyone that advocates to censor you, or to unmask your anonymity is your adversary. Treat them like one - no matter what else they say.

But why is it so vital and necessary for the combined monolithic apparatus of government, corporations, and NGOs, to brute force censor everyone while decimating the careers and reputations of the dissenters? Here is why:

The reason the First Amendment is prime directive order 1, is because it is the most important freedom we have for the same reason it is the first target an adversary subverts, disrupts, and destroys during a crime, a war, or a takeover—preventing a target from assembling, communicating, and organizing a response to an assault grants an enormous advantage to the aggressors.

"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent will be led, like sheep to the slaughter." —Washington

The Second Amendment is second because it is the remedy for anyone trying to subvert the First.

"The 1-A is first for a reason. The 2-A is it's twin. Together they make a bond of freedom." —S.P.H.

Antonio Brownlowe's avatar

Wow, if this goes on down this track , and if the Zionist and their Europeans and Americas Blind Sheep's definition of Anti Semitism keep expanding and snaring everyone in its path of their ever growing Bogus Anti Semitic WEB of charges, pretty soon just living in this world and not Supporting this Genocidal Zionist State , we might soon be charged with Anti Semitism just for living, being alive, and not a JEW ,or a supporter of Jews and Israel

Fran Carbonaro's avatar

When will Israelis stop weaponizing their victimhood? It is absurd…

Jim's avatar

Never. Victimization isn’t simply a weapon, it is a tool.

Barrie's avatar

When Russia, Chinia and ziran were seen to interferi in Australin politics, diplomats were removed, visas cacelled and ambassodors called to Canberra. Yet less than 4% of the Australian population can now dictate what feedom of speach should be. Jews in Australia appear to have an open door to the highest level of state and federal governments. How much money do they provide to election funding. One would think a lot. Is thiscorruption at the highest level buying outcomes that we the general publil never voted for.

denise ward's avatar

I think the goy don't understand how important free speech is. They censor each other for crying out loud! Over the most minor issue. Stop censoring - free speech is our only tool in the face of those who have all the advantages on their side. Don't throw it away for all of us. If you censor it means you consent. That's all that's needed for them to do it to us. We must make censorship unequivocally contemptible.

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Yes, Bondi Beach was enough of a "crisis" (perhaps manufactured) that the right-wing could enact their "never let a good crisis go to waste" and clamp down harder on the masses. You need to find a "victim" card to play that is at least as strong as the zionist's.

Sera's avatar

I heard a few minutes ago on Judge Napolitano’s program that it is now cause for arrest to have said something against Israel in the past—years ago. (This would be impossible under the US constitution, if anyone cared.)

It was not confirmed. Does anyone know more about this?

M F's avatar

Disgusting, revolting, antagonizing. Fascists are gaining hold across the so-called democratic Free World. When all these hypocrites are made to face the consequences--as they shall be--expect them to come endlessly whining about their good intentions.

SamAsIAm's avatar

We’re in an increasinly insane authoritarian nightmare and while it’s obvious it’s reached the place where drastic action is the only solution, not a sign of any organization which would or could, act rationally.

Jo Waller's avatar

Someone comes along in the political world, like Trump did for the 'covid' cartoon, who will fight the ‘deep state’ and their ‘political correctness’ with actual hatred for Jews and perhaps civil war or attacking Israel?- the powers that be the US interests (in oil, pharma, animal ag, arms, tech and media) would love both, including an all out war in West Asia.

Suzannah Powrie's avatar

….& just in case opposing a G*nocide wasn’t enough to get you going, how about when it affects one’s own life. Don’t forget either that this is a classic “omnibus” package ….

Sera's avatar

I’m just curious, because I’ve seen this before, why the asterisk?

Barney's avatar

ICE trains with IDF so exporting violence to the USA is one way of showing gratitude to the Trump administration.

Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

If people don't inform themselves and don't react, things will only get worse.