Most western nations are doing their best to gaslight the rest of us when it comes to the genocide in Palestine. It's a very true reflection of the character of the powerful of the western world, and that's something they can't hide.
Diana; The US is leading the pack with this, as in the murder by Jonathan Ross of Renee Good by telling us a made up story when video from all angles shows it is made up. Now the Australians are using a tragedy to promote their false narrative. Israel is at the top of the list for this kind of gaslighting and the US follows close behind. The entire world is being turned upside down so that genocide and tyranny can prevail.
At some point we will have to move to a community of Caitlin for our own mental health. If we don't we will be powerless. Is that their intent, keep us thinking we are powerless as the German population who lived next to the camps. The Nation of Caitlin, where should it be? Something mild climate, water, soil, least affected by climate change ( also something that can not be spoken about in DOE). What state would you choose? I also live in the evil empire : (
Smallish community with a rail line and good soil, weather that is seldom fatal if power and fuel run low, and a non-violent history. A good, reliable water source is critical.
Start now. It appears to be "the will of Landru", after all.
Please stop promoting misinformation. Many Western nations have denounced Israel's war, including Spain: "The Spanish government has explicitly described the situation in Gaza as genocide
Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has publicly used the word “genocide” to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza, saying the scale of civilian deaths and destruction amounts to extermination of a defenseless population and pushing measures against Israel on that basis.
Spain announced nine government measures aimed at pressuring Israel to end what it said was a genocide — including an arms embargo, restrictions on shipping and flights supporting Israeli forces, and barring individuals involved in “genocide, human rights violations and war crimes” from entering Spain."
"28 Western countries issued a joint statement saying the war must end now and explicitly condemning the “inhumane killing of civilians,” restriction of humanitarian aid, and conditions that violate international humanitarian law. Countries in that group include:
Britain
Canada
France
Italy
Spain
Sweden
Norway
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
Austria
Netherlands
Portugal
Ireland, and others."
It almost seems like you WANT Western nations to stay silent, short of y9ur being just ignorant of the widespread denunciations.
And yet Israel’s killing goes on: an average of five a day, since the SHAM “ceasefire” was announced. Denunciations without action are not enough! Israel must be stopped. As well as their buddies in the Trump administration.
And most of those countries are still supplying Israel with weapons and money, and still favouring Israel and downplaying its genocide in its news outlets. Denunciations aren't enough.
Irans missile retaliation, which show how porous the Iron Dome is and damaged hundreds of buildings, exposing the lie that Tel Aviv was safe and Israelis were protected ("ranian missile attacks damaged about 240 residential buildings in Israel, affecting more than 2,000 individual apartments. Many people were subsequently displaced as a result.
In some cases, entire apartment buildings were destroyed and thousands of residents evacuated and needing housing assistance.
🏫 Institutional/Scientific facilities
At the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot (a major research campus), missile strikes damaged approximately 90 % of the institute’s structures, including numerous labs and buildings.
🏢 Other civilian and infrastructure targets
Operational reports indicate that hundreds of buildings overall — including civilian homes, hospitals (e.g., Soroka Medical Center) and other infrastructure — were affected during the missile barrages.") As a result, the Israel was with Iran was cut short after only 12 dys and today, Netanyahu is begging Trump not to bomb Iran because he knows their retaliation will again expose his inability to protect the Israelis.
Israel promised security and failed to deliver; they claimed the Iron Dome protected them. This lie was refuted. They underestimated the power of Iran to hit the heart of Israel and threaten not only the Israeli public but the support for the regime that cannot survive without providing security.
The abolitionist movement in the US started in 1775 and it took about 190 yrs to finally end legal segregation. Would you at any point along that path have said, "And yet the discrimination and killing goes on" as tho to refute the effort that ultimately succeeded? Far better to lend a hand than object to the slow progress...join us and speed it up to create a majority in Congress opposed to arming Israel that can force an end to the 75 yr oppression.
""The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" MLK
Dale, I appreciate your "give peace a chance" message. And after a 90-minute dharma teaching, can fully take it in today! My impatience is based in my direct contact (while raising funds for their survival) with many in Gaza; it has not been an "over there" experience for me. It's been right here, in my heart, my gut, my body.
It took 200 yrs of effort to outlaw legal discrimination; would you say and yet the discrimiantion goes on because the effort to ban it was still in progress? If you have an alternative to a strong progressive Democratic party getting enough votees to ban arms to Israel, which will take some time (AND NEVER happ[en if people like you and Caitlin win the day with your negaivity) , but what is the alternative? I am all ears? You are full of destructive criticism, with no alternative, which is irresponsible and a betrayal of the Palestinian caue.
Slovenia became the first EU state to impose its own arms embargo on Israel.
Germany — traditionally one of Israel’s staunchest European supporters — has increasingly voiced concern about civilian suffering and has halted some military exports related to Gaza....
The critical action must come from the US, which supplies the essential weapons needed by Israel to conduct its wars. The Sander's bill has steadily gained support, going from 15 to 24 to 28 Democratic votes in the Senate, now a majority, as it grows momentum to stop arms shipment to Israel. Bizarrely, Caitlin has denounced Sanders as a "ghoulish zombie," as tho an agent of AIPAC. Some say we can't wait. You know what: we have no choice but to weait until the movement reaches the point of enforcement, and that will require jn the US, the election of progressive Democrats like Sanders and AOC, the very people the Iseaeli lobby and many Caitlin fans denounce, to form a veto proof majority. You can either lend a hand in on this one possible way to stop the Israeli war machine, or you can get out of the fucking way while we build that support on behalf of human rights in Palestine.
"In a 2025 op-ed titled “It Is Genocide” Sanders wrote:
“The intent is clear. The conclusion is inescapable: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.”
He continued in the same statement:
“We, as Americans, must end our complicity in the slaughter of the Palestinian people… Having named it a genocide, we must use every ounce of our leverage to demand an immediate ceasefire, a massive surge of humanitarian aid… and initial steps to provide Palestinians with a state of their own.”
Her is Caitlin's reponse: "“Bernie Sanders Is A Ghoulish Zionist,” That clearly is meant to undermine his struggle to end arms shipments to Israel, an idea he first proposed 45 yrs ago.
It's fair for you to add nuance, but swinging hyperbole in the other direction isn't gonna hit either. BS took over a year to suck it up and say the thing, that's better than nothing but still a disgraceful failing grade.
Ever heard the expression 'Window dressing'? Nothing but empty words here. Face it, your disgusting culture is done! Self-immolated!
It's so sickening to see a defender of the indefensible. The Western nations have committed the ultimate crime- with few exeptions. Genocide is their fiercely protected game. Zio-Nazis all!
The SS beats up their still functional citizens.
The swine leading these nations are outlaws and terrorists. Disgusting, vile creatures. Like those who mince words, instead of screaming in opposition.-
You wish ! Europe is working with Israel AS USUAL. There is a big difference between statements and actions. Moreover, peaceful protestors in the UK, in Germany...were, are arrested, even older people.
I read your long, over use of misinformation and bs I needed to reply because you forget to mention ANYTHING about what the GOVERNMENTS of your extended country list are doing, hmm. I can tell you now running through your bs message you miss this CRITICAL piece of information!
Just in case you DIDN'T understand about this ''statement'' NONE (bar Spain & Slovenia) of these approved or signed by a government representative, and if you haven't worked out after 2.3 years of a genocide that unless GOVERNMENTS ban, or stop arms sales to America and Israel the genocide and bombings are not going to stop. Go get a lesson on geopolitics before you belittle others comments, because from my base you spout cr@p without research and factual information, and correct your above comments to at least make people understand about the crucial fact of GOVERNMENT interactions and external NON-GOVERNMENT entities signing a statement!
You had the audacity to include Britain, Germany, France, Canada, Netherlands... you're message is so laughable because the reality is so wrong! All minus Slovenia and Spain are STILL involved in either providing diplomatic cover, arms, military personnel, training, funding, legal backing and Germany is the 2nd largest provider of arms to Israel, with Britain and Canada not far behind. The amount of US and British miliary bases in Europe and the Gulf region that are being used by Israeli IOF, CIA/Mossad is astounding! Also in the aspect literally EVERY SINGLE one of these countries governments are Zionist funded, ruled and lead e.g., Britain: Starmer (aka StarVer) - he's a full Zionist and has stated so and his full support for Israel, France, Canada, Sweden (not so ABBA!), Italy (mini Hitler in a female form), Austria (Hitler x 2), Germany (where do I begin; 3rd genocide under their belt!), etc., etc., etc. refer comments on Britain as they are ALL Zionist lead governments.
I'll finish there and hopefully you get the drift of your mis-representation of using a ''statement'' in the wrong context of what Caitlin's article was actually about.
I think people like Dale need that type of mental illness in order to get up in the morning thinking something overwhelmingly good is happening. Harsh words and a shipping order for weapons, Russia and China included. It would not shock me if Jordan, Egypt, Saudi are sending weapons to israel even though they are next. OH WAIT..................
Spain has been pretty good, but the rest of Europe has been complicit. They issue mild denunciations but allow their ports to be used for shipment of more weapons to Israel. And this is during an undeniable genocide--if we went by UN conventions, don't all countries have an obligation to actively stop a genocide? Most of them are also going along with this conflation of antizionist protest with antisemitism.
Canada’s recognition of Palestine was based on it being a “Zionist Palestine” said Prime Minister Carney. Canada still provides the genocidal Israeli regime with weapons and military components. Canada’s government is a Zionist, lying, disgusting entity, trying to fool Canadians. I live here, I see the laws Carney is introducing to suppress criticism of Israel, even going so far as to demonize immigrants. Carney is a sophisticated version of Donald Trump, but he’s still a liar and a fascist.
These listed countries issue their "condemnation" then do f-all. No, sorry, not all do f-all. Some continue supplying weapons, intelligence information and other genocide and apartheid support...
Probably with the same funding they use to build and ship weapons, oil, and gas. Turkiye the largest Nat. Gas supplier to israel. Interesting isn't it.
Western nations - their governments and their people. Large swaths of lib americans still hold up the uncommitted movement and "Palestine propaganda" as a/the root cause for democrats losing to Trump the second time, with a nearly bottomless pit of bitterness over it even now. Some say the tide is or has shifted, but I'm really not sure of that.
Without even going into free speech concerns, this is woke logic taken to its ultimate conclusion. Rather than saying something is offensive because a reasonable person would deem it offensive, something is offensive because the listener decides to be offended.
I think he’s saying that certain types of liberals tilled this soil in the first place (the kind who would view an expression on someone else’s face, read their mind, and then make an accusation of a ‘micro aggression’ of some sort or another.’)
This particular cohort took it upon themselves to call for the ‘cancelling’ and silencing of anyone that disagreed with them on any issue, large or small - always claiming, usually in bad faith, that the disagreement was based on sexism, racism, homophobia, or some other hatred. Criticize Clinton? Obviously a misogynist. Obama? You’re a racist. Governmental COVID over-reach? CLEARLY a knuckle-dragging MAGA member. Stand by the principles of the First Amendment? It’s because you want to shout the N word in a crowded theater.
These folks cynically weaponized false outrage to blackmail others into silence like a bunch of middle school mean girls, with zero thought for what the consequences would be when the other team inevitably took power.
Sadly, the perfectly fine word “woke” was redefined to describe these pearl clutching scolds - and we don’t currently have another word.
Accused of antisemitism for being a redhead, wearing a white shirt, a green jacket, and black pants. "That's the Palestinian flag!" the prosecution shouted.
I seriously worry about this sort of shit every time I get dressed. Are my colours representing any country or ideology? Can’t wear blue and yellow together any more either.
It’s very hazardous at Christmas! There is Palestine in every Christmas card… actually… in several respects.
Fortunately in Spain, where I live, not only can you criticize the Zionist entity and praise the Palestinian resistance, but it's very well regarded to do so.
I have considered moving from the u.s. to Spain. I do have unique skill sets in science having worked with a group there on a compact telescope. I need to live with people of peace and willing to help others in the world building the New Palestine for Palestinian people.
Malaysia I can recommend! You replied to my extended reply to Dale's comment but the commentator has blocked me haha, so I can't read any responses, or possibly Caitlin has removed my comment, c'est la vie.
I can tell you Caitlin will not ban you, she will however respond to something extreme. There is still free speech in the Nation of Caitlin. We at times are hostile with each other and forgiving at the same time. I can tell you, I disagree with Dale however, his thoughts come from a kind place. We just disagree how to get there. So continue the struggle friend. You will fire on me at some point : )
I'm happy every time I see the Palestine colors, so even though I don't celebrate Xmas I love seeing the colors together, I try to mix in some black when I can. But yeah no yellow with blue, no blue with white (🤮) and if red and white, no blue in there. Honestly I never buy anything with blue anymore if I can help it. I literally think about that evil, fake ethnostate every time I see the color blue, especially that light-medium shade they use. Seriously those fuckers stole a color from my life, like they steal everything else. Boycott blue!
I have the Palestinian flag on my balcony and on the rear window of my car. I'm not going to let the Zionist genocidal maniacs steal my blue. I hate their flag, but the colors, all the colors, belong to humanity, not to them.
For the last few years my wardrobe has been bold colours with the intention of no political significance. I always liked red for obvious reasons but certainly for the last couple of years I can’t wear red and blue together either. I feel like nobody can complain about green and orange together right? I mean that either Ireland or India?
Anyone notice that blue is almost exclusively used in colonizer country flags (USA, UK, France, that which shall not be named, etc.) and almost never appears in flags of global south countries... I always wished for green in my country's flag. Now I have it 🇵🇸
I was hoping that not every Western country had lost its mind, but that was a vain hope. We'll need to get them all into group therapy and perhaps administer psychotropic drugs to return them to sanity. Or we could just shut down the apartheid regime and Free Palestine.
Well the thing is. The whole of western politics for the last 50 years has been based on neoliberalism which is objectively false. Privatising state assets does not make them work better, tax cuts for the rich do not yield more tax revenue, deregulation does not yield abundance, there is no trickle down effect and wealth creators do not create wealth. Since, in every western country, every political party is committed to all these falsehoods, the only way to maintain this is to vault off into madness.
The point from which it was clear was whenever the Blair or Clinton equivalent in your country persuaded the leftish party to advocate for right-wing ideas it knew were false for reasons of “pragmatism”. That was the point at which each country went mad.
I am very unconfident in my understanding of Chilean politics. I know they were in a way first into neoliberalism with pinochet; I know there has recently been a left-ish government; I know there has recently been shenanigans, but I have no idea which way the ball is currently travelling or where it is on the pitch.
When you say “the experiment is over,” do you mean the neoliberal experiment, the left-neoliberal centrist experiment, or the experiment of trying to resist neoliberalism?
Allende's coup/murder. When Che and Fidel had guided Salvador to a transition to Socialism, the project was working, Chile a country with abundant resources both Agriculture and Metals typical of Central and South American countries. When the CIA murdered Allende the project failed. Recently with Boric losing to Kast ended what little shift to Socialism happened under Boric. I know a woman who in 1973 was carrying students from Santiago to Argentina to escape the football stadium murders. She is a hero, Chile no longer has a hero like that. The countries National resources will be sold to private companies in the u.s. not unlike Venezuela. That is how I see the current situation in Chile. I have many friends working and living in Chile who think this past election was a color change operation like we have seen in so many other countries. Copper is King for many years to come and Chile is a the main resource however, with mines depleting and topping in 27, new mines not coming online until 30 , the copper will be depleted in 10 yrs. with declining ore quality. I once asked the question to friends at dinner in the town of La Serena the unspoken question. What will Chile do when the ore runs out? Hated stares from friends, it was like insulting their families. Chile was stupid in not using value added losing valuable investment for the future, sorry, that's how I see it. Today water is a primary issue that also goes unspoken. When I would travel to the telescope I would shot photos of the central reservoir, the first year I was there the damn was full, and over the ten years of working on the mountain they were building mini damns to hold what little water was flowing. I have a photo of the construction equipment tracks on the bottom of the lake.
A beautiful country of beautiful people colonized and stripped of it's wealth by We The People. : (
Give up your free speech at your peril. Once they are able to silence you, the game is over. The loss of all of your other freedoms will fall like dominos after. Anyone that advocates to censor you, or to unmask your anonymity is your adversary. Treat them like one - no matter what else they say.
But why is it so vital and necessary for the combined monolithic apparatus of government, corporations, and NGOs, to brute force censor everyone while decimating the careers and reputations of the dissenters? Here is why:
The reason the First Amendment is prime directive order 1, is because it is the most important freedom we have for the same reason it is the first target an adversary subverts, disrupts, and destroys during a crime, a war, or a takeover—preventing a target from assembling, communicating, and organizing a response to an assault grants an enormous advantage to the aggressors.
"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent will be led, like sheep to the slaughter." —Washington
The Second Amendment is second because it is the remedy for anyone trying to subvert the First.
"The 1-A is first for a reason. The 2-A is it's twin. Together they make a bond of freedom." —S.P.H.
1934 Germany, and soon people will feel the need to report their neighbor. It's coming I can see it now. Every country with an ICE hotline number and the rapid response team drops in via helicopter. : (
Wow, if this goes on down this track , and if the Zionist and their Europeans and Americas Blind Sheep's definition of Anti Semitism keep expanding and snaring everyone in its path of their ever growing Bogus Anti Semitic WEB of charges, pretty soon just living in this world and not Supporting this Genocidal Zionist State , we might soon be charged with Anti Semitism just for living, being alive, and not being a JEW ,or a supporter of Jews and Israel
When Russia, Chinia and ziran were seen to interferi in Australin politics, diplomats were removed, visas cacelled and ambassodors called to Canberra. Yet less than 4% of the Australian population can now dictate what feedom of speach should be. Jews in Australia appear to have an open door to the highest level of state and federal governments. How much money do they provide to election funding. One would think a lot. Is thiscorruption at the highest level buying outcomes that we the general publil never voted for.
I think the goy don't understand how important free speech is. They censor each other for crying out loud! Over the most minor issue. Stop censoring - free speech is our only tool in the face of those who have all the advantages on their side. Don't throw it away for all of us. If you censor it means you consent. That's all that's needed for them to do it to us. We must make censorship unequivocally contemptible.
Disgusting, revolting, antagonizing. Fascists are gaining hold across the so-called democratic Free World. When all these hypocrites are made to face the consequences--as they shall be--expect them to come endlessly whining about their good intentions.
Yes, Bondi Beach was enough of a "crisis" (perhaps manufactured) that the right-wing could enact their "never let a good crisis go to waste" and clamp down harder on the masses. You need to find a "victim" card to play that is at least as strong as the zionist's.
When I first started an apprenticeship fresh out of High School, an old ( by my 17 yr old standards ) tradesman - a dedicated union member - told me: 'There'll never be a revolution in Australia. If it's a nice day they'll be at the beach, if it's not, they'll be in the pub'.
And the first rule in almost all Aussie pubs is 'We don't don't talk about politics 'round here Mate!'
I heard a few minutes ago on Judge Napolitano’s program that it is now cause for arrest to have said something against Israel in the past—years ago. (This would be impossible under the US constitution, if anyone cared.)
It was not confirmed. Does anyone know more about this?
We’re in an increasinly insane authoritarian nightmare and while it’s obvious it’s reached the place where drastic action is the only solution, not a sign of any organization which would or could, act rationally.
Someone comes along in the political world, like Trump did for the 'covid' cartoon, who will fight the ‘deep state’ and their ‘political correctness’ with actual hatred for Jews and perhaps civil war or attacking Israel?- the powers that be the US interests (in oil, pharma, animal ag, arms, tech and media) would love both, including an all out war in West Asia.
….& just in case opposing a G*nocide wasn’t enough to get you going, how about when it affects one’s own life. Don’t forget either that this is a classic “omnibus” package ….
Most western nations are doing their best to gaslight the rest of us when it comes to the genocide in Palestine. It's a very true reflection of the character of the powerful of the western world, and that's something they can't hide.
Diana; The US is leading the pack with this, as in the murder by Jonathan Ross of Renee Good by telling us a made up story when video from all angles shows it is made up. Now the Australians are using a tragedy to promote their false narrative. Israel is at the top of the list for this kind of gaslighting and the US follows close behind. The entire world is being turned upside down so that genocide and tyranny can prevail.
At some point we will have to move to a community of Caitlin for our own mental health. If we don't we will be powerless. Is that their intent, keep us thinking we are powerless as the German population who lived next to the camps. The Nation of Caitlin, where should it be? Something mild climate, water, soil, least affected by climate change ( also something that can not be spoken about in DOE). What state would you choose? I also live in the evil empire : (
Smallish community with a rail line and good soil, weather that is seldom fatal if power and fuel run low, and a non-violent history. A good, reliable water source is critical.
Start now. It appears to be "the will of Landru", after all.
Unfortunately
Please stop promoting misinformation. Many Western nations have denounced Israel's war, including Spain: "The Spanish government has explicitly described the situation in Gaza as genocide
Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has publicly used the word “genocide” to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza, saying the scale of civilian deaths and destruction amounts to extermination of a defenseless population and pushing measures against Israel on that basis.
Spain announced nine government measures aimed at pressuring Israel to end what it said was a genocide — including an arms embargo, restrictions on shipping and flights supporting Israeli forces, and barring individuals involved in “genocide, human rights violations and war crimes” from entering Spain."
"28 Western countries issued a joint statement saying the war must end now and explicitly condemning the “inhumane killing of civilians,” restriction of humanitarian aid, and conditions that violate international humanitarian law. Countries in that group include:
Britain
Canada
France
Italy
Spain
Sweden
Norway
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
Austria
Netherlands
Portugal
Ireland, and others."
It almost seems like you WANT Western nations to stay silent, short of y9ur being just ignorant of the widespread denunciations.
And yet Israel’s killing goes on: an average of five a day, since the SHAM “ceasefire” was announced. Denunciations without action are not enough! Israel must be stopped. As well as their buddies in the Trump administration.
And most of those countries are still supplying Israel with weapons and money, and still favouring Israel and downplaying its genocide in its news outlets. Denunciations aren't enough.
Exactly
Yes, they denounce and ship weapons, so logical isn't it.
Hypocrisy
They crave American carrot and fear American stick.
Nobody stops Israël ! NOBODY
Until Iran.
You are right
That sounds so inhuman of me however, I see no options. I wrote the UN asking them to disband, false hope.
Irans missile retaliation, which show how porous the Iron Dome is and damaged hundreds of buildings, exposing the lie that Tel Aviv was safe and Israelis were protected ("ranian missile attacks damaged about 240 residential buildings in Israel, affecting more than 2,000 individual apartments. Many people were subsequently displaced as a result.
In some cases, entire apartment buildings were destroyed and thousands of residents evacuated and needing housing assistance.
🏫 Institutional/Scientific facilities
At the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot (a major research campus), missile strikes damaged approximately 90 % of the institute’s structures, including numerous labs and buildings.
🏢 Other civilian and infrastructure targets
Operational reports indicate that hundreds of buildings overall — including civilian homes, hospitals (e.g., Soroka Medical Center) and other infrastructure — were affected during the missile barrages.") As a result, the Israel was with Iran was cut short after only 12 dys and today, Netanyahu is begging Trump not to bomb Iran because he knows their retaliation will again expose his inability to protect the Israelis.
Israel promised security and failed to deliver; they claimed the Iron Dome protected them. This lie was refuted. They underestimated the power of Iran to hit the heart of Israel and threaten not only the Israeli public but the support for the regime that cannot survive without providing security.
What goes around,
The abolitionist movement in the US started in 1775 and it took about 190 yrs to finally end legal segregation. Would you at any point along that path have said, "And yet the discrimination and killing goes on" as tho to refute the effort that ultimately succeeded? Far better to lend a hand than object to the slow progress...join us and speed it up to create a majority in Congress opposed to arming Israel that can force an end to the 75 yr oppression.
""The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" MLK
Dale, I appreciate your "give peace a chance" message. And after a 90-minute dharma teaching, can fully take it in today! My impatience is based in my direct contact (while raising funds for their survival) with many in Gaza; it has not been an "over there" experience for me. It's been right here, in my heart, my gut, my body.
It took 200 yrs of effort to outlaw legal discrimination; would you say and yet the discrimiantion goes on because the effort to ban it was still in progress? If you have an alternative to a strong progressive Democratic party getting enough votees to ban arms to Israel, which will take some time (AND NEVER happ[en if people like you and Caitlin win the day with your negaivity) , but what is the alternative? I am all ears? You are full of destructive criticism, with no alternative, which is irresponsible and a betrayal of the Palestinian caue.
Spain has acted: "Spain under Pedro Sánchez has taken a series of concrete actions that have strained its relationship with Israel, including:
imposing and legalizing a weapons embargo,
blocking or cancelling military contracts,
public condemnation (often in stark terms) of Israeli military conduct,
efforts to lead EU pressure, and
accepting reciprocal diplomatic slights (e.g., travel bans)."
Slovenia became the first EU state to impose its own arms embargo on Israel.
Germany — traditionally one of Israel’s staunchest European supporters — has increasingly voiced concern about civilian suffering and has halted some military exports related to Gaza....
The critical action must come from the US, which supplies the essential weapons needed by Israel to conduct its wars. The Sander's bill has steadily gained support, going from 15 to 24 to 28 Democratic votes in the Senate, now a majority, as it grows momentum to stop arms shipment to Israel. Bizarrely, Caitlin has denounced Sanders as a "ghoulish zombie," as tho an agent of AIPAC. Some say we can't wait. You know what: we have no choice but to weait until the movement reaches the point of enforcement, and that will require jn the US, the election of progressive Democrats like Sanders and AOC, the very people the Iseaeli lobby and many Caitlin fans denounce, to form a veto proof majority. You can either lend a hand in on this one possible way to stop the Israeli war machine, or you can get out of the fucking way while we build that support on behalf of human rights in Palestine.
"In a 2025 op-ed titled “It Is Genocide” Sanders wrote:
“The intent is clear. The conclusion is inescapable: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.”
He continued in the same statement:
“We, as Americans, must end our complicity in the slaughter of the Palestinian people… Having named it a genocide, we must use every ounce of our leverage to demand an immediate ceasefire, a massive surge of humanitarian aid… and initial steps to provide Palestinians with a state of their own.”
Her is Caitlin's reponse: "“Bernie Sanders Is A Ghoulish Zionist,” That clearly is meant to undermine his struggle to end arms shipments to Israel, an idea he first proposed 45 yrs ago.
[Verse 5]
Don't scab for the bosses
Don't listen to their lies
Us poor folks haven't got a chance
Unless we organize
[Chorus]
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
It's fair for you to add nuance, but swinging hyperbole in the other direction isn't gonna hit either. BS took over a year to suck it up and say the thing, that's better than nothing but still a disgraceful failing grade.
Words are cover for lack of action dale, a two state solution has been talked about for twenty years are we there yet or any closer now????
Not unlike being a Demoncrat or Republican't.
OK, even the latest pope spoke about it. But an Apartheid State will never live in peace and respect neighbour States.
One of the pope's was talking with the NSDAP via secret channels too in the 1930s, 40s so I can't place him on a pedestal Cornelia sorry.
Ever heard the expression 'Window dressing'? Nothing but empty words here. Face it, your disgusting culture is done! Self-immolated!
It's so sickening to see a defender of the indefensible. The Western nations have committed the ultimate crime- with few exeptions. Genocide is their fiercely protected game. Zio-Nazis all!
The SS beats up their still functional citizens.
The swine leading these nations are outlaws and terrorists. Disgusting, vile creatures. Like those who mince words, instead of screaming in opposition.-
Nazism = Zionism = Fasism
England is arresting people for anti zionotC comments.
Even Greta was arrested in the UK
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87ld73xyx0o
You wish ! Europe is working with Israel AS USUAL. There is a big difference between statements and actions. Moreover, peaceful protestors in the UK, in Germany...were, are arrested, even older people.
German shihhole! Once a nazi always a nazi.
I read your long, over use of misinformation and bs I needed to reply because you forget to mention ANYTHING about what the GOVERNMENTS of your extended country list are doing, hmm. I can tell you now running through your bs message you miss this CRITICAL piece of information!
Just in case you DIDN'T understand about this ''statement'' NONE (bar Spain & Slovenia) of these approved or signed by a government representative, and if you haven't worked out after 2.3 years of a genocide that unless GOVERNMENTS ban, or stop arms sales to America and Israel the genocide and bombings are not going to stop. Go get a lesson on geopolitics before you belittle others comments, because from my base you spout cr@p without research and factual information, and correct your above comments to at least make people understand about the crucial fact of GOVERNMENT interactions and external NON-GOVERNMENT entities signing a statement!
You had the audacity to include Britain, Germany, France, Canada, Netherlands... you're message is so laughable because the reality is so wrong! All minus Slovenia and Spain are STILL involved in either providing diplomatic cover, arms, military personnel, training, funding, legal backing and Germany is the 2nd largest provider of arms to Israel, with Britain and Canada not far behind. The amount of US and British miliary bases in Europe and the Gulf region that are being used by Israeli IOF, CIA/Mossad is astounding! Also in the aspect literally EVERY SINGLE one of these countries governments are Zionist funded, ruled and lead e.g., Britain: Starmer (aka StarVer) - he's a full Zionist and has stated so and his full support for Israel, France, Canada, Sweden (not so ABBA!), Italy (mini Hitler in a female form), Austria (Hitler x 2), Germany (where do I begin; 3rd genocide under their belt!), etc., etc., etc. refer comments on Britain as they are ALL Zionist lead governments.
I'll finish there and hopefully you get the drift of your mis-representation of using a ''statement'' in the wrong context of what Caitlin's article was actually about.
I think people like Dale need that type of mental illness in order to get up in the morning thinking something overwhelmingly good is happening. Harsh words and a shipping order for weapons, Russia and China included. It would not shock me if Jordan, Egypt, Saudi are sending weapons to israel even though they are next. OH WAIT..................
Dale wants to believe so badly that we can vote or demonstrate our way out of this.
He claims to be old but still believes in fairy tales.
Damn hahahha. hahaahhahaha. I left and came back because I was still laughing hahahha.
Spain has been pretty good, but the rest of Europe has been complicit. They issue mild denunciations but allow their ports to be used for shipment of more weapons to Israel. And this is during an undeniable genocide--if we went by UN conventions, don't all countries have an obligation to actively stop a genocide? Most of them are also going along with this conflation of antizionist protest with antisemitism.
Yes, however they send weapons with slight impedance.
Yes the denounce and then send large shipments of weapons and cash. So no they are pro-Genocide.
Canada’s recognition of Palestine was based on it being a “Zionist Palestine” said Prime Minister Carney. Canada still provides the genocidal Israeli regime with weapons and military components. Canada’s government is a Zionist, lying, disgusting entity, trying to fool Canadians. I live here, I see the laws Carney is introducing to suppress criticism of Israel, even going so far as to demonize immigrants. Carney is a sophisticated version of Donald Trump, but he’s still a liar and a fascist.
Empty words from the UK which has resumed selling arms to Israel ‘because there’s a ceasefire’.
These listed countries issue their "condemnation" then do f-all. No, sorry, not all do f-all. Some continue supplying weapons, intelligence information and other genocide and apartheid support...
You left out Turkiye - their Govt produced and published an excellent video on the genocide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtoWptrhPOM&t=3s
Probably with the same funding they use to build and ship weapons, oil, and gas. Turkiye the largest Nat. Gas supplier to israel. Interesting isn't it.
Western nations - their governments and their people. Large swaths of lib americans still hold up the uncommitted movement and "Palestine propaganda" as a/the root cause for democrats losing to Trump the second time, with a nearly bottomless pit of bitterness over it even now. Some say the tide is or has shifted, but I'm really not sure of that.
Without even going into free speech concerns, this is woke logic taken to its ultimate conclusion. Rather than saying something is offensive because a reasonable person would deem it offensive, something is offensive because the listener decides to be offended.
G'day FF is neocon, neoliberal capitalism still woke or is everything woke. It is getting overused and becoming blame.
I think he’s saying that certain types of liberals tilled this soil in the first place (the kind who would view an expression on someone else’s face, read their mind, and then make an accusation of a ‘micro aggression’ of some sort or another.’)
This particular cohort took it upon themselves to call for the ‘cancelling’ and silencing of anyone that disagreed with them on any issue, large or small - always claiming, usually in bad faith, that the disagreement was based on sexism, racism, homophobia, or some other hatred. Criticize Clinton? Obviously a misogynist. Obama? You’re a racist. Governmental COVID over-reach? CLEARLY a knuckle-dragging MAGA member. Stand by the principles of the First Amendment? It’s because you want to shout the N word in a crowded theater.
These folks cynically weaponized false outrage to blackmail others into silence like a bunch of middle school mean girls, with zero thought for what the consequences would be when the other team inevitably took power.
Sadly, the perfectly fine word “woke” was redefined to describe these pearl clutching scolds - and we don’t currently have another word.
I am saying that the Zionists are using the same logic. First declare yourself a victim, and then all things shall be given unto you.
Accused of antisemitism for being a redhead, wearing a white shirt, a green jacket, and black pants. "That's the Palestinian flag!" the prosecution shouted.
I seriously worry about this sort of shit every time I get dressed. Are my colours representing any country or ideology? Can’t wear blue and yellow together any more either.
It’s very hazardous at Christmas! There is Palestine in every Christmas card… actually… in several respects.
Fortunately in Spain, where I live, not only can you criticize the Zionist entity and praise the Palestinian resistance, but it's very well regarded to do so.
I have considered moving from the u.s. to Spain. I do have unique skill sets in science having worked with a group there on a compact telescope. I need to live with people of peace and willing to help others in the world building the New Palestine for Palestinian people.
Malaysia I can recommend! You replied to my extended reply to Dale's comment but the commentator has blocked me haha, so I can't read any responses, or possibly Caitlin has removed my comment, c'est la vie.
I can tell you Caitlin will not ban you, she will however respond to something extreme. There is still free speech in the Nation of Caitlin. We at times are hostile with each other and forgiving at the same time. I can tell you, I disagree with Dale however, his thoughts come from a kind place. We just disagree how to get there. So continue the struggle friend. You will fire on me at some point : )
Thanks, good to know, have a great day.
Still shipping weapons and cash though : (
I'm happy every time I see the Palestine colors, so even though I don't celebrate Xmas I love seeing the colors together, I try to mix in some black when I can. But yeah no yellow with blue, no blue with white (🤮) and if red and white, no blue in there. Honestly I never buy anything with blue anymore if I can help it. I literally think about that evil, fake ethnostate every time I see the color blue, especially that light-medium shade they use. Seriously those fuckers stole a color from my life, like they steal everything else. Boycott blue!
I have the Palestinian flag on my balcony and on the rear window of my car. I'm not going to let the Zionist genocidal maniacs steal my blue. I hate their flag, but the colors, all the colors, belong to humanity, not to them.
I agree, I generally oppose all flags by this point, and I love all colours.
For the last few years my wardrobe has been bold colours with the intention of no political significance. I always liked red for obvious reasons but certainly for the last couple of years I can’t wear red and blue together either. I feel like nobody can complain about green and orange together right? I mean that either Ireland or India?
Anyone notice that blue is almost exclusively used in colonizer country flags (USA, UK, France, that which shall not be named, etc.) and almost never appears in flags of global south countries... I always wished for green in my country's flag. Now I have it 🇵🇸
Narjis:
IRELAND! 🇮🇪 🇮🇪🇮🇪
🟩⬜🟧 ✌🏽
Go on home British Soldiers Go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we will fight you for 800 more... 🎵
Oh yeah! It's like only the cool antizionist ones get to have green and not blue in their flag 💚
Spain doesn't even have white. 🟥🟨🟨🟥 😉
White is only ok if there's also black - in flags and fashion alike
In the UK people went crazy about a stamp because Mary had a headscarf and brown complexion
The people who performed crazy in response to that stamp were already crazy long before they saw it.
True
"This entire country has lost its damn mind."
I was hoping that not every Western country had lost its mind, but that was a vain hope. We'll need to get them all into group therapy and perhaps administer psychotropic drugs to return them to sanity. Or we could just shut down the apartheid regime and Free Palestine.
Well the thing is. The whole of western politics for the last 50 years has been based on neoliberalism which is objectively false. Privatising state assets does not make them work better, tax cuts for the rich do not yield more tax revenue, deregulation does not yield abundance, there is no trickle down effect and wealth creators do not create wealth. Since, in every western country, every political party is committed to all these falsehoods, the only way to maintain this is to vault off into madness.
The point from which it was clear was whenever the Blair or Clinton equivalent in your country persuaded the leftish party to advocate for right-wing ideas it knew were false for reasons of “pragmatism”. That was the point at which each country went mad.
pragmatism = fundraising
I think the current centrist understanding of the word is somewhere between, surrender, appeasement and treason.
Chile, the experiment is dead now. There were attempts to return and they are crushed by WE the people of the u.s.
I am very unconfident in my understanding of Chilean politics. I know they were in a way first into neoliberalism with pinochet; I know there has recently been a left-ish government; I know there has recently been shenanigans, but I have no idea which way the ball is currently travelling or where it is on the pitch.
When you say “the experiment is over,” do you mean the neoliberal experiment, the left-neoliberal centrist experiment, or the experiment of trying to resist neoliberalism?
Allende's coup/murder. When Che and Fidel had guided Salvador to a transition to Socialism, the project was working, Chile a country with abundant resources both Agriculture and Metals typical of Central and South American countries. When the CIA murdered Allende the project failed. Recently with Boric losing to Kast ended what little shift to Socialism happened under Boric. I know a woman who in 1973 was carrying students from Santiago to Argentina to escape the football stadium murders. She is a hero, Chile no longer has a hero like that. The countries National resources will be sold to private companies in the u.s. not unlike Venezuela. That is how I see the current situation in Chile. I have many friends working and living in Chile who think this past election was a color change operation like we have seen in so many other countries. Copper is King for many years to come and Chile is a the main resource however, with mines depleting and topping in 27, new mines not coming online until 30 , the copper will be depleted in 10 yrs. with declining ore quality. I once asked the question to friends at dinner in the town of La Serena the unspoken question. What will Chile do when the ore runs out? Hated stares from friends, it was like insulting their families. Chile was stupid in not using value added losing valuable investment for the future, sorry, that's how I see it. Today water is a primary issue that also goes unspoken. When I would travel to the telescope I would shot photos of the central reservoir, the first year I was there the damn was full, and over the ten years of working on the mountain they were building mini damns to hold what little water was flowing. I have a photo of the construction equipment tracks on the bottom of the lake.
A beautiful country of beautiful people colonized and stripped of it's wealth by We The People. : (
Thanks, really useful perspective.
I love you : )
Any suggestions?
A refrain:
Give up your free speech at your peril. Once they are able to silence you, the game is over. The loss of all of your other freedoms will fall like dominos after. Anyone that advocates to censor you, or to unmask your anonymity is your adversary. Treat them like one - no matter what else they say.
But why is it so vital and necessary for the combined monolithic apparatus of government, corporations, and NGOs, to brute force censor everyone while decimating the careers and reputations of the dissenters? Here is why:
The reason the First Amendment is prime directive order 1, is because it is the most important freedom we have for the same reason it is the first target an adversary subverts, disrupts, and destroys during a crime, a war, or a takeover—preventing a target from assembling, communicating, and organizing a response to an assault grants an enormous advantage to the aggressors.
"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent will be led, like sheep to the slaughter." —Washington
The Second Amendment is second because it is the remedy for anyone trying to subvert the First.
"The 1-A is first for a reason. The 2-A is it's twin. Together they make a bond of freedom." —S.P.H.
1934 Germany, and soon people will feel the need to report their neighbor. It's coming I can see it now. Every country with an ICE hotline number and the rapid response team drops in via helicopter. : (
Wow, if this goes on down this track , and if the Zionist and their Europeans and Americas Blind Sheep's definition of Anti Semitism keep expanding and snaring everyone in its path of their ever growing Bogus Anti Semitic WEB of charges, pretty soon just living in this world and not Supporting this Genocidal Zionist State , we might soon be charged with Anti Semitism just for living, being alive, and not being a JEW ,or a supporter of Jews and Israel
When will Israelis stop weaponizing their victimhood? It is absurd…
Never. Victimization isn’t simply a weapon, it is a tool.
When they no longer can.
Fran:
The IsraHellis have never been “victimized”.
When Russia, Chinia and ziran were seen to interferi in Australin politics, diplomats were removed, visas cacelled and ambassodors called to Canberra. Yet less than 4% of the Australian population can now dictate what feedom of speach should be. Jews in Australia appear to have an open door to the highest level of state and federal governments. How much money do they provide to election funding. One would think a lot. Is thiscorruption at the highest level buying outcomes that we the general publil never voted for.
I think the goy don't understand how important free speech is. They censor each other for crying out loud! Over the most minor issue. Stop censoring - free speech is our only tool in the face of those who have all the advantages on their side. Don't throw it away for all of us. If you censor it means you consent. That's all that's needed for them to do it to us. We must make censorship unequivocally contemptible.
Disgusting, revolting, antagonizing. Fascists are gaining hold across the so-called democratic Free World. When all these hypocrites are made to face the consequences--as they shall be--expect them to come endlessly whining about their good intentions.
“whining about their good intentions.” Well, we all know where that road leads, and couldn’t be more fitting.
It's clear. Democracy doesn't work.
Not where you have an ignorant public numbed by fast food and spectator sports with their faces constantly against screens.
Yes, Bondi Beach was enough of a "crisis" (perhaps manufactured) that the right-wing could enact their "never let a good crisis go to waste" and clamp down harder on the masses. You need to find a "victim" card to play that is at least as strong as the zionist's.
When I first started an apprenticeship fresh out of High School, an old ( by my 17 yr old standards ) tradesman - a dedicated union member - told me: 'There'll never be a revolution in Australia. If it's a nice day they'll be at the beach, if it's not, they'll be in the pub'.
And the first rule in almost all Aussie pubs is 'We don't don't talk about politics 'round here Mate!'
50 ish years later, not much has changed.
I heard a few minutes ago on Judge Napolitano’s program that it is now cause for arrest to have said something against Israel in the past—years ago. (This would be impossible under the US constitution, if anyone cared.)
It was not confirmed. Does anyone know more about this?
He said that would become true if this law passes.
Thank you. I thought there was more to it than I recalled, but it’s still difficult to fathom.
ICE trains with IDF so exporting violence to the USA is one way of showing gratitude to the Trump administration.
We’re in an increasinly insane authoritarian nightmare and while it’s obvious it’s reached the place where drastic action is the only solution, not a sign of any organization which would or could, act rationally.
Someone comes along in the political world, like Trump did for the 'covid' cartoon, who will fight the ‘deep state’ and their ‘political correctness’ with actual hatred for Jews and perhaps civil war or attacking Israel?- the powers that be the US interests (in oil, pharma, animal ag, arms, tech and media) would love both, including an all out war in West Asia.
….& just in case opposing a G*nocide wasn’t enough to get you going, how about when it affects one’s own life. Don’t forget either that this is a classic “omnibus” package ….
I’m just curious, because I’ve seen this before, why the asterisk?
So the algorithm doesn't flag and remove it
I suspected that was the reason, but I suppose I didn’t want to believe it. Thanks.