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May 9, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

Why not consider Zelenskyy lied about being pro-peace just like Joe Biden lied about nearly everything (but that nothing would change (from Donald Trump)) to get elected? Everything about this man's history says he was and still is a tool of at least two violent criminal empire.

His TV program "Servant of the People" was created for him by the man who seed funded the Azov thugs, and grew them from a bunch of soccer hooligans into a powerful political tool: Ihor Valeriyovych Kolomoyskyi.

Kolomoyskyi not only owned the TV network, but a fraudulent banking/money laundry empire, and the franchise for CIA Heroin transshipment in Ukraine from Afghanistan to EU and North American. Zlelenskyy was one of his lawyers, who specialized in bank control fraud and money laundry, 1.5 Billion, that Billion, was disclosed to be under Zelenskyy's legal control in the Pandora papers, most of which probably came from Kolomoyskyi's defrauding of PrivatBank. That kind of money comes with a very long, violent trail of blood, for which Kolomoykyi deployed his private army, Azov.

Several oligarch, all with their own private armies had candidates running for president, but using right wing fascist platforms. Kolomoyskyi did an original move, and having laid the groundwork with his tool Zelenskyy, told him to lie. Yes, I know it's hard to believe a politician would lie, much less a lawyer who works for organized crime, but consider it for once. After Zelenzkyy was elected, he not only failed to keep any of his promises (shades of Joe Biden, anyone, and of course he had shade on Joe's son Hunter), but he even promulgated more laws against minorities and worked with Azov's political arm to carry out pogrom's against Roma in Kiev, etc.

Many kind hearted fool assumes the best about Zelenskyy because he challenged an Azov captain on camera. For gods' sake, 3 or 4 days after this incident had to fly to Paris to attend the latest round of the Minks Accord group, and was under pressure from Paris and Berlin to stop the shelling of civilians in DNR until the meeting was over. He put on a show for the camera, and still everyone thinks he's a gentleman, when nearly everything else the thug has done shows he's a violent, bigoted, criminal. https://youtu.be/4PBVa4XJEFE?t=1328 It get's riper the further one listens.

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Perhaps Zelensky did lie. I suspect as much, given that he has absolutely seemed to be playing a role that he adjusts as the America propaganda machine refines their Putin playbook. Perhaps the Azoz Nazis only threatened him publicly for the sake of placating the greater majority who voted him in on a platform of peace. But one point this makes abundantly clear is that the media representations of all Ukraine being unified in wanting to fight Putin to the very last citizen, adult or child, is a horrific lie that only suits the aims of Washington warmongers and the Ukrainian Nazis.

Most of the American peoples support of this venture is based solely on that, yet they’re too gullible to see through it, even when shown evidence of the contrary. It is embarrassing and frightening that so many Americans are willing to discount the influence of violent, self-described Nazis, who have publicly threatened to lynch their President if he negotiates with Putin, in a government receiving obscene amounts of weapons from us. The best outcome of this for Ukraine, if they keep following the US narrative, is to unfortunately become an even more corrupt and totalitarian Nazi regime that will be incredibly difficult to unseat, once established.

This is not a problem for Washington. As spreading democracy would mean spreading the rights of self governance and self determination to people, that is not actually one of their true goals. Where has the US military industrial complex and its CIA lapdog ever enacted a coup, euphemistically ‘regime change’, ever resulted in the establishment of a truly stable representative government? Where has it done so and resulted in the rise of some autocratic monarch or dictator who suppressed free speech and self governance?

Washington loves an autocratic puppet who will sell their own countries out to multinational corporations. Politicians like Pelosi and Schumer are why the Democrats have no backbone. They are wholly bought by the mic, which apparently supports the erosion of womens rights and the continued denial of healthcare reform. It’s no wonder they support fighting Russia to the bloody end. They probably have extensive bunkers to wait out a nuclear blast, after their hubris endangers us all.

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I agree with everything you said, Jennie, but I'm envisioning a different way for this to end. I think that elections are coming up in NATO countries in Europe that are extremely dependent on Russian oil and gas, which can now only be bought with gold for rubles. The US has promised to supply them but they need a new harbor dug for oil tankers and it will be expensive, plus some have said that fracking is running out.

My prediction is that this spells the end of NATO--EU countries start dropping out, maybe with the incentive that Russia accepts the country currencies of non-NATO friendly countries, as Putin has said. I think it leaves the US isolated and the petrodollar sunk, with no foreign goods, food or energy that the dollar can buy.

In the US, our chickens are coming home to roost and they're hungry enough to eat us! We're heading into interesting times and the militarism in Ukraine may be Custer's last stand. Or last clusterf*ck, as the case may be.

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May 9, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

Zelensky is an actor, playing the role of a lifetime. Kind of like Reagan. Getting very, very rich.

And why didn't you mention Hunter? :-)

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Paragraph 4.

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I failed at reading comprehension.

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I think you're already checking out my Substack, J M, but I talk about Kolomoyskyi in The West vs The Rest. It was such an eye opener, when I thought my eyes were already stuck open, ala Clockwork Orange. I had felt sorry for Zelensky when I read Aaron Mate's article and found out how he was held hostage by the neo-Nazis. But after reading in Kanekoa about Kolomoysky throwing him 1.5 billion and the network of offshore companies, I feel he's not such an innocent victim.

https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/the-west-vs-the-rest

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He's a huckster opportunist for sure. Think Marty Byrde and his wife Wendy. That Dynamic Duo is a too-close-to-the-bone prototype.

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May 9, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/east-ukraine-zelensky-honeymoon-impeachment-trump-latest-a91765

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/29/ukraine-the-real-zelensky/.

Needless to say, the United States did not want to protect Zelenskii so he could implement Minsk-2. Quite the opposite.

rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

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Very interesting to see it all laid out like this, as cold-blooded analysis of the most effective and least risky strategies to destabilise Russia!

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There is not the slightest doubt that this proxy war was arranged a long time in advance by the US, that admitted in 2014 it had invested $5 billion in Ukraine - and that was a lot of money 20-25 years ago- and were shoulder-deep in the Maidan coup of 2014, promoted a far-right winger for president, Yatsenyuk, who fronted for more obvious Nazi types, and advised Zelensky that he needn't concern himself with the Minsk accords. This has been a proxy war against Russia from the start, and was recognized as such by Putin. It is nauseating to hear the mindless idiot Biden refer to Putin as "a thug" and accuse him of the war crimes for which he and his are responsible. Incredibly, Zelensky has just made a video accusing Russia of "fascism", the country that stood alone against the Nazis in WWII and saved the world from that scourger at the cost of at least 28,000,000, dead -almost twice the entire population of Canada at the time. But this is the age of irony: there is no lie too outrageous, too preposterous, too contradictory and anti-historical to be floated, and no doubt believed by the comatose believers of sick Western fantasies.

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Putin was the all time worst KGB thug...now he is a murderer president who is bent on changing history...and the rest of the world does not agree and has moved on. He is off his rocker, misguided and full of grandiose delusion.

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Ummm...you do realize Stalin and Hitler were pals before they were "enemies," right? Stalin and Russia had no problem with Nazis so long as Nazis left Russia alone and shared the spoils of conquest, hence their divvying up Poland before Hitler invaded Russia.

https://www.eurozine.com/when-stalin-was-hitlers-ally/

"As Russia continues its invasion of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has chosen to rehabilitate the alliance between Hitler and Stalin that began the World War II. In speaking of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as good foreign policy, he violates both the long Soviet taboo and adjusts his own prior position that the agreement was “immoral”. What might he have in mind? What is it about the alliance with Hitler that is appealing just at the present moment? What does this revision of the history of World War II mean as Russia revives the tradition of wars of aggression on European territory?"

For Putin to speak glowingly about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact betrays his hatred of Nazis and instead underscores his admiration for them. He admires them every bit as much as the Western elite admire them.

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Ummm...you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Stalin and Hitler were historically and ideologically, adamantly and fundamentally enemies long before they became " pals," as you so cynically put it: it was a matter of survival for Stalin who had tried desperately to form a "defence" pact with the West, and was totally, irrevocably ignored: he knew what was coming: Hitler made clear in Mein Kampt- I have a copy - just exactly what he thought of Slavs, and Russians in particular, because they controlled a very valuable piece of landscape. The "pact" between Russia and Germany was strictly defensive, involved no trade or any other consideration, and bye the bye, the Poles were goddam lucky it was Russia took over the eastern half or they would have had twice the misery. Although many didn't mind a bit - if they weren't Jewish.

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Is this meant to be satire? If not, it's incredibly serendipitous satire. Defense, my ass. Either Stalin was a complete imbecile or he was a malevolent imperialist. In my estimation he was both and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves that. Stalin attached himself to Hitler's expansionism because he was a malevolent imperialist and wanted to globally and regionally expand the Soviet sphere by brute force and violence. He's an imbecile because in partnering with Hitler he thus enabled the German war machine — the very war machine that in several short years turned on him and the Soviet Union. Had Stalin not aided and abetted Hitler for three years prior to Hitler declaring war on the Soviet Union, Hitler would have had a much harder time waging war against the Soviet Union and many lives would have been spared as a result of that including Soviet lives that Stalin threw into the cauldron like so much meat to be ground into bloody hamburger for his hubristic imbecility.

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Hitler's expansionism included Russia from the beginning, and any commentator on the subject who doesn't know that fact is a fool by definition.

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The fact Hitler's expansionism included the Soviet Union from the very beginning only strengthens my point about Stalin and his enabling of Hitler.

"Nazi-Soviet relations on the eve of the war were vital to the war movement of each respective nation. In essence, the conclusion of the Nazi-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact on August 23, 1939 allowed Germany to augment its war effort while diminishing the Soviet fear of a German invasion.(3) The betterment of relations was a carefully planned program in which Hitler sought to achieve two important goals. First, he sought to prevent a two-front war from developing upon the invasion of Poland. Second, he sought to gain valuable raw materials that were necessary for the war movement.(4) The only way to meet these goals was to pursue the completion of two pacts with the Soviet Union: an economic agreement as well as a political one. Prior to the conclusion of the Non- Aggression Pact, the nations signed an economic agreement, which dictated trade relations. This agreement was later amended in 1940, and further aided the German war economy. Although much of the emphasis is placed on the political implications of the Non-Aggression Pact, it was the economic agreement that allowed for the normalization of tensions between the two feuding nations. Thus, one must also be cognizant of the implication of the Economic Agreement of 1939, especially as it directly enabled Germany to strengthen its war movement. Following this line of causality, it can be argued that the economic pact was more important to German military mobilization during the period between 1939 and 1941 than the Non-Aggression pact was."

Despite Hitler's bombastic rhetoric directed at the Soviet Union and Bolshevism and clear telegraphing of his intentions, Stalin enabled Hitler in building the German war machine.

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You know bugger all.

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I guess the notion stems from the attitude the western writers (Churchill, Shirer) assume without fail - that Stalin "got his" by going along with Hitler in 1939, that he was at fault by not "joining" the Western "efforts" prior to that.

That has always been fantastic for me to read. They'd just describe the periods prior to 1939 detailing how the West sabotaged anything Soviet Union attempted to do, only to go straight to blaming Stalin for taking the route he did. Amazing!

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Yes, of course, Stalin is just an innocent party in all of this. I think there was good reason not to trust the freak. Look how many he murdered who trusted him. Hitler's betrayal of the criminal Stalin underscores there is no honor among murderous thieves.

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The stupidity, ignorance, pure bad faith and criminality of what actually happened, as opposed to the fable, staggers the mind. Could drive you to drink.

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What are you doing wasting your time in this lowly forum? You should write a book. The insights you provide here for free - what a waste!

Tanya - this is the troll you should direct your innocent queries to. S/he Just Knows(TM).

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"In my estimation" giggle.

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"you do realize Stalin and Hitler were pals before they were "enemies,"

Go back to study real history school, and quit reading text from Nazi propaganda units that were incorporated in to the USA MIC-IMATT. Unless, you're on the NED payroll, then keep on doing what your doing.

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Ok, maybe pals is a little embellishment but do you have an issue with this facts:

1. Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, treaty of non-aggression, was signed on Aug. 28 1939. It also included secret protocol on how Poland and Lithuania will be split between Germany and Soviets

2. Germany invaded Poland on Sept. 1 1939

3. Russia invaded Poland on Sept. 17 1939

In the next 2 years both invaders each killed estimated 100,000 polish citizens.

Does not it look like pretty strong allies at least during those 2 years?

And btw, what is NED?

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See comment above by Doris Wrench Eisler. NED is the organ paying your handler.

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Wow. I do not even know how to respond to this.

Since apparently you know more about my life then I do, could you introduce " my handler" to me?

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Zelensky has to have a ton of blackmail on the Bidens for them to be sending billions of taxpayer dollars on demand.

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Kolomoyskyi, or rather Kolomoysky and the CIA.

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Probably more importantly is that part of those funds that have been disappearing into the black hole of the Ukrainian military is a kickback to the Bidens through some dark channels.

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Yup, a massive money laundering scheme. Wonder how this money travels around, what financial institutions are in on it.

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More like the opposite. Why would he want to willingly destroy his own country and that of his neighbor, where he used to work and be quite popular as an actor and comedian unless he is threatened and blackmailed (and / or bribed)?

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because he's a lawyer for a mob boss with 1.5 Billion under his name, and who's criminal empire thrives in chaos, a mob boss who created the tv program that made him a star.

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Is this tongue in cheek? Humour?

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THE LILLY LEDBETTER COVER-UP WILL TAKE DOWN JOE BIDEN!

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If you want to give yourself a migraine, try to tell a normie who still enjoys watching Colbert any of this. That'll do it. Speaking from personal experience. 😖

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exactamundo...they instigated the whole thing...just like they did with the plandemic....https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-update-what-truth/5779037

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I wish I could have faith in Global Research, but every time I go there, it just seems to be serving some "other agenda". Can't quite put my finger on it though.

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It feels like a loop in history: in Berlin 1945 Reinhard Gehlen traded his freedom and a new name in exchange for Ukrainian Nazi troops that he had been in charge of during the war. Allan Dulles was so grateful for this trade that he made Gehlen chief of the West German secret services. Americans have always loved Nazis, but the Ukrainian ones were the first ones they employed officially.

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Biden is utterly corrupt war criminal – although senile he is so amoral as that he came from another planet. Trump, although comical and incompetent, was a much more normal and relatable person.

The original modern sin – the immense DNC-Deep state Russia-gate hoax led directly to the bipartisan US War uniparty to proxy war. For decades every Russian politician warned unsuccessfully about relentless NATO expansion….

In the end, Putin is the only humane and normal political leader in this proxy war against capitalist Russia.

Scott Ritter; Ukraine, Finland and Nato, a Warning to the People of Finland – May 8, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciUNBIKNxMw

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More satire. I don't think the beets in your Borscht are organic Boris. Trump is normal and Putin is humane? Too funny. I agree Biden is a whore to Wall Street and his faculties are, should we say, substantially compromised, but to say Trump is normal compared to Biden is to say Hitler was more normal than Stalin or vice versa. They were both equally horrid in their own respective right as are Trump and Biden. Thankfully, Biden doesn't tweet and he doesn't hold rallies so we don't have to see his mug and hear and read his crap every two seconds.

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The US could have prevented this by not stoking a coup in 2014 to put their own puppets in so the families of Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Mitt Romney (and probably others) could be enriched. Timeline here - https://wholistic.substack.com/p/russia-invades-ukraine-some-context

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'Handmaiden" from Handmaiden's Tale refers to women as mere controlled, procreative functions in a fascist society, not so far removed from the system of the allegedly most advanced society that ever existed: the US. And now back-to-the-future style, women's rights over their own reproductive health and choices are again in serious dispute. More evidence that only socialism/communism can save the human race from barbarism, certainly, and most likely, total annihilation.

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I do not think this is true:

"Minsk II meant ... you had to make the Russian language an official language of Ukraine." Anybody can show me where in the agreement this is stated?

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I read it in Russian and English. Did you?

Are those 2 statements the same?

1. Had to make the Russian language an official language of Ukraine.

2. Such measures, in accordance with the Law "On the special order of local government in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions," include the following: The right to self-determination with regard to language

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Did Bono sing sant Kalouse is coming to town? He sucks

He is a young globalist sperm

The edge is totally overrated and can't play guitar for shit

Just a bunch of crappy delays and effects

Safe and effective

They can jerk off Neil Young together for get help from Hunter BidenHo who will film it for his laptop and deliver it to John Paul Mac Isaac

Zelensky ought to get back to practice piana, long as I don't have to watch

Wait. What? The us is in a proxy war against Russia in the UKraine with help of eurpoop and UK that thinks it is the UKraine since first two letters are same

UK gave zelensky And his piana citizenship in UK

Next,. I been a miner for a heart of gold.

It s these expressions, I never give....

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The psychopaths rule not only in the US. Any NATO member could have prevented the invasion by publicly assuring Russia that Ukraine would never be allowed into NATO. It should have been Germany, which benefited most from the 1990 treaty on reunification. Shame on all the NATO countries, who not only fail to do the right thing, but allow themselves to be led by the US into doing the worst thing.

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It's hard to find someone who will state this supremely important argument as clearly as Caitlin has done here, with the necessary links and quotations that leave no room for doubt or argument. We are in this place because the US wanted us to be in this place. I don't think any sincere and informed person could argue otherwise. The informed part is where propaganda has succeeded: hardly anyone is informed enough to understand the road to led us here was built over 30 years ago. With arrogance and ignorance we've been led to this position.

The good part is there's still time to right the wrongs. The bad part is there's no will on the part of the US and its lackeys to take the steps to do so.

Thank you, Caitlin.

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and who do you think funded the nazi militants? perhaps the cia like they did the taliban?

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Sheldon Cooper says:

That Nazi flag in the group photo is probably fake. I'm guessing the original pre-photoshop flag was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

That makes more sense than a Hitler Youth flag. I mean those guys may be Nazis, but they look a little old to be in the Hitler Youth.

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