Why do Palestinians owe it to share their land with anybody, let alone their abusers and murderers? Would people like it if someone broke into their home, raped their wife, killed their daughter and burned half the rooms down and then as a compromise offered to SHARE it with them? This is outrageous. Expel the zionists to where they came from. They have barely lived there, they can pack up and go back to Romania or fucking Brooklyn. Palestinians don't owe them shit. They need not only their land back, they need justice. Forcing them to co-exist with their genociders is not justice. The two state solution is an insult.
Israel’s population is made up of people from many different backgrounds. Who exactly would you expel? There are Jewish Israelis who lived in the land before the State of Israel was created, as well as Arab Israelis (Palestinians, Iraqis, etc.). There are also Israelis born in the country whose parents and grandparents were also born there, with no ties to the European countries of their ancestry anymore or property there. What criteria would you use to decide who stays and who goes?
There are a tiny number of Israeli Jews who were previously Palestinian Jews. A truly trivial number.
As to being born in the country, well, if they can behave as Palestinians then they can stay. If they cannot they can go back to where they, their parents or grandparents came from.
The Angolans sent the Portugese back to their homeland after 500 years and 20 generations so sending Israelis back after 77 years and three generations is nothing.
Most Israelis have dual passports and many have only holiday homes in what has been called Israel and live in other countries.
THE CRITERIA WOULD BE, IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN AS A PALESTINIANS AND YOU CAN BEHAVE THEN YOU CAN STAY.
Only the original Jewish Palestinians. The rest lie steal cheat degrade insult abuse and act like they are gods gift and deserve to mistreat Palestinians and Arabs. They do it all over the world, wherever they go they are insulting and degrading to the people of the land. Send them back where they came from . I’m sure their original countries would love to have them return and may even throw them a welcome home pity party.
A Free Palestine would need UN forces to maintain order. Former Israelis can remain if they behave. If they do not behave they should be repatriated. Many Israelis have already left and more will go. Many Jews have holiday homes in Israel which would be handed over to homeless and returning Palestinians. All of the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, most of whom are Americans, should be emptied and those homes given to returning and homeless Palestinians.
if you were handed the keys to someone else's house who was forcefully expelled to make room for you, you gotta go. It has not been that long that such records don't exist.
Less than 2% of Israelis oppose what is happening to Palestinians. Netanyahu had to fucking APOLOGIZE to them on state TV for being forced to allow in a morsel of food aid in order to get the West off their backs as they conclude their genocide. These are not people who believe in peaceful coexistence.
The answer would be simple: expel all Israeli citizens.
A better solution would be to remove all funding from Israel, and to force them to give up their arsenal of weapons (which have been used only for aggression, and never for self-defense) along with all the lands they have illegally annexed since the inception of their country. In a perfect world, this solution would make it illegal for Israeli citizens to travel outside the boundaries of their newly (original) defined country without a passport granted them by Palestinian authorities. High time the shoe fell on the other foot for these people.
"Oracle started as a project for the Central Intelligence Agency. Indeed, it is named after Project Oracle, a 1970s CIA operation on which Ellison worked. For some time, the CIA was Oracle’s only customer, until it began to win contracts with other agencies of the U.S. national security state. Today, although Oracle’s customer base is much wider, it maintains its role as the privatized face of the CIA...
"Yet if Oracle is close to Washington and Langley, it is perhaps even more intimately tied to the State of Israel. An avowed Zionist, Ellison has worked tirelessly to advance Israel’s political project. Among his closest personal friends is Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he vacationed on his private island in Hawaii. Ellison was so impressed and confident in the Israeli prime minister that he offered him a seat on his company’s board, replete with a salary of $450,000."
fter reaching an agreement with President Trump, David Ellison—the son of the second-richest man in the world, Larry Ellison—has acquired Paramount Global, the media giant that owns CBS News.
"Larry Ellison, the largest private funder of the Israel Defense Forces, is deeply tied to the Israeli national security state and counts Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among his closest friends."
On a recent edition of Andrew Napolitano’s ‘Judging Freedom’ podcast, Colonel Laurence Wilkerson stated that Chapter 7 of the UN Charter provides for a two-thirds majority of the General Assembly to organise peace-enforcement, and that such a majority resolution would not be subject to the veto powers of the ‘Security’ Council. I think there’s a similar provision for expelling a member State.
Are those two propositions valid, and what can individuals do to request such actions
by the General Assembly to end the Zionazi assault on the Palestinians and their supporters?
LOL. But it might depend on which nations were willing to participate. Uncle Sam is no longer the power he claims to be, and if he tried to fight in order to continue his suppirt for genocide, he could have a revolution on his hands.
But first things first: how can one best approach UN members to urge them to put the necessary motions?
Dismantle Zionist Israel and it will sort itself out. A free united Palestine where former Israelis who are sane enough to behave become Palestinians would be a self selection process in the main.
Charges, trials, and sentences will be needed. I don't think voicing an opinion (in support of genocide) will get people jailed -- yes, that would be the whole population. Levy fines for that, yes. Give the money to rebuild Palestine. The murderers: prison, the rapists: prison, the leadership who ordered this: prison. That's a start.
Not being Palestinian, I can only think about what is or could be a possible logical outcome. If I were Palestinian with a say in the matter, I would accept anything that would call attention to civil/human rights of my people. One state, two state, three state, four. This seems like a failure of revolution however, it seems the world needs an excuse to provide food, and healthcare? Never in my life did I think we would fail at being humans with building a new Nazi empire. I know this line of thought sounds so chaotic but I am at a loss as to how Palestinians can move forward without a group like the BRICS embracing them. I wrote to Lula asking he accept Palestine into BRICS at the call for a new meeting. No response so...........
No deal that Israel makes with the Palestinians at this time in point can or will be in the best Interest of the Palestinians. As long as Israel remains in the middle east its a loose loose proposition for the Palestinians.
Israel knows it ,Americas leaders knows it, and the other former Western Colonial imperialist knows it
Thanks Caitlin and Tom. You both are a fountain of knowledge and wisdom. I am in awe of your ability to keep generating ideas and strategies. Your full body massages as well as the self-work are really bearing their fruits.
When you publish new hard copies of Johnstone, can you please find an alternative to Amazon for these books? I would love to purchase the books, but I won't break my boycott of evil Amazon. (and we all should boycott them as they are on the BDS list: https://bdsmovement.net/Guide-to-BDS-Boycott )
Have you looked into Lulu for self publishing? They do print-on-demand books. https://www.lulu.com/
I love that you're essentially optimistic. If Gaza isn't a rallying cry to the world to make big changes to ourselves and our systems, I don't know what is.
Those advocating for a single state are only seeking to prolong our suffering by forcing us to live side by side with our own killers. We support a state for Palestinians—separate from Israel—because we are a different people, with our own ethnicity, culture, and values. We do not want to be bound by policies we reject or to be governed alongside Israelis whose political choices we do not share. Let them have their state, and let us have ours. The one-state idea has virtually no support in the international community. So if Israelies say two states is unrealistic...
People advocating a single state are also saying the Zionist Jews be sent back to Europe, with many being tried for war crimes and Palestine restored to its entirety.
As long as Israel exists in any way, nobody in the Middle East will have security.
The two state solution is a farce. It’s meant to waste time and no agreement will ever be made by Israel.
Vijay Prashad gave what I thought was a valid argument to fight for a 2-state solution. Not because anybody expects it to be honorably pursued or because it represents a rational policy. Right now it is a UN endorsed policy that received rhetorical support from many western governments that made no effort to hide their support for Israel. It has had western backing from day one, and it stands as the best immediate alternative to Netanyahu and his government of genocide enforcers.
Israhell has lost any right to anything especially existence. After murdering in cold blood over 350 more near 400 thousand Palestinians, starved them mutilated and raped, destroyed children, removed limbs, stole organs and skin- you think they have any right to exist on stolen land with all their hate? They are not Semitic people. They have no ethnicity from the region. They can return to Eastern European Ashkenazi lands or repopulate Germany and Poland and the US and Britain- the countries supporting their genocide should take them in- it’s only fair. Leave Palestine alone and rid the land of those horrible murderers and oppressors and thieves
I'd be willing to have them stay in Palestine and go to prison for their crimes. Perhaps it will be the kind of prison where you work, and the proceeds can go to rebuild Palestine.
the two state solution is like asking everyone who the nazis kept in concentration camps to stay in concentration camps with nazi guards to just be cool about it while they slowly get killed
Hi Caitlin, that was a great read and had even cynical miserable old me twitch briefly with hope. I write the occasional angry rant across several platforms but am usually too angry to string a coherent sentence together so thank you! Seriously, I don't know how you stay sane, but please don't stop. I will continue to share your work as widely as I can.
Thank you, great ideas. Obviously, the Palestinians wouldn't do it, unless the zionists converted to Judaism and totally behaved themselves. So, not at all likely. But two-state - never!
I love that you have that optimism. There's a part of me that has for a while been thinking that this is a turning point, a wake up call - not just on Palestine but on a much broader perspective and that this is the point at which humanity can reclaim its future. In some ways the people of Gaza, through their courage, resilience and steadfastness show us what humans are capable of. But also, at this point it is so overwhelmingly horrible that my little bit of optimism keeps getting squashed down. That there are others who can see that there may be something better ahead, no matter what, helps.
It's not taboo to express optimism Caitlin. However, in the words of Richard Crim 'false hope is 'Disinformation'.
How on earth do we get our leaders to sanction the US, a really harsh weapon that affects the people way more than the politicians, or put 'pressure' on the US when they're being blackmailed and bribed by them, sitting on Trump's knee and literally calling him Daddy?
Sure Palestine won't be destroyed, there are millions all over the world, but the genocide in Gaza will end when all Palestinians there are dead or dispersed. The dismantling of the US Empire (the power and influence of fossil fuels, animal ag, arms, pharma, AI, tech, banking and media) will take longer than people take to starve.
How on earth do we get a healthy world when carbon emissions are still increasing, renewables are doing nothing to slow it down, forests are still being destroyed for animal ag, oceans are emptied of fish and filled with plastic and mercury, people are still getting autism from pesticides and vaccines and the Empire has a vice like grip on our health and and the health of the planet? Even if we stopped all this tomorrow temperatures keep increasing and don't go down. They stay here, with 2025 the 2nd or 3rd hottest on record and it's not even an El Nino year (And we're not going to change our behaviour tomorrow.) It's not just the fires and floods. It's FOOD. The Empire thinks it can sit the crisis out. It's ready for its bunkers and shooting agricultural migrants at the borders, hoping the global south will have been starved and destroyed by the time they reemerge.
We need to be facing up and accepting what's coming.
Not living in a fantasy world where protesting in the street or reposting on social media makes everything OK.
Totally agree and feel what you feel but we are just little people trying to do the best we can without losing our minds and our humanity. Much as I wish Michael Rennie and a giant robot would land in a flying saucer in Washington to set things right, that isn't going to happen, so keep protesting, keep writing, keep banging those pots and pans.
Why do Palestinians owe it to share their land with anybody, let alone their abusers and murderers? Would people like it if someone broke into their home, raped their wife, killed their daughter and burned half the rooms down and then as a compromise offered to SHARE it with them? This is outrageous. Expel the zionists to where they came from. They have barely lived there, they can pack up and go back to Romania or fucking Brooklyn. Palestinians don't owe them shit. They need not only their land back, they need justice. Forcing them to co-exist with their genociders is not justice. The two state solution is an insult.
Thank you! Yes you are absolutely right!!
Hear ya, there's only ONE solution "Palestinian State" that's allllllllllllllllll
Israel’s population is made up of people from many different backgrounds. Who exactly would you expel? There are Jewish Israelis who lived in the land before the State of Israel was created, as well as Arab Israelis (Palestinians, Iraqis, etc.). There are also Israelis born in the country whose parents and grandparents were also born there, with no ties to the European countries of their ancestry anymore or property there. What criteria would you use to decide who stays and who goes?
There are a tiny number of Israeli Jews who were previously Palestinian Jews. A truly trivial number.
As to being born in the country, well, if they can behave as Palestinians then they can stay. If they cannot they can go back to where they, their parents or grandparents came from.
The Angolans sent the Portugese back to their homeland after 500 years and 20 generations so sending Israelis back after 77 years and three generations is nothing.
Most Israelis have dual passports and many have only holiday homes in what has been called Israel and live in other countries.
THE CRITERIA WOULD BE, IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN AS A PALESTINIANS AND YOU CAN BEHAVE THEN YOU CAN STAY.
Only the original Jewish Palestinians. The rest lie steal cheat degrade insult abuse and act like they are gods gift and deserve to mistreat Palestinians and Arabs. They do it all over the world, wherever they go they are insulting and degrading to the people of the land. Send them back where they came from . I’m sure their original countries would love to have them return and may even throw them a welcome home pity party.
A Free Palestine would need UN forces to maintain order. Former Israelis can remain if they behave. If they do not behave they should be repatriated. Many Israelis have already left and more will go. Many Jews have holiday homes in Israel which would be handed over to homeless and returning Palestinians. All of the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, most of whom are Americans, should be emptied and those homes given to returning and homeless Palestinians.
WELL. SAID. ROSLYN! 💪💪💪
if you were handed the keys to someone else's house who was forcefully expelled to make room for you, you gotta go. It has not been that long that such records don't exist.
Less than 2% of Israelis oppose what is happening to Palestinians. Netanyahu had to fucking APOLOGIZE to them on state TV for being forced to allow in a morsel of food aid in order to get the West off their backs as they conclude their genocide. These are not people who believe in peaceful coexistence.
And we have seen them and their children destroying aid and stopping aid trucks.
The answer would be simple: expel all Israeli citizens.
A better solution would be to remove all funding from Israel, and to force them to give up their arsenal of weapons (which have been used only for aggression, and never for self-defense) along with all the lands they have illegally annexed since the inception of their country. In a perfect world, this solution would make it illegal for Israeli citizens to travel outside the boundaries of their newly (original) defined country without a passport granted them by Palestinian authorities. High time the shoe fell on the other foot for these people.
This will never happen unfortunately.
Nope, Marci. Da Jooz don’t get NO part of the land. Period.
On the other hand, my father’s family had valuable seafront property stolen by Da Jooz and me and my cousins want it the fuck back!!!
"Oracle started as a project for the Central Intelligence Agency. Indeed, it is named after Project Oracle, a 1970s CIA operation on which Ellison worked. For some time, the CIA was Oracle’s only customer, until it began to win contracts with other agencies of the U.S. national security state. Today, although Oracle’s customer base is much wider, it maintains its role as the privatized face of the CIA...
"Yet if Oracle is close to Washington and Langley, it is perhaps even more intimately tied to the State of Israel. An avowed Zionist, Ellison has worked tirelessly to advance Israel’s political project. Among his closest personal friends is Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he vacationed on his private island in Hawaii. Ellison was so impressed and confident in the Israeli prime minister that he offered him a seat on his company’s board, replete with a salary of $450,000."
fter reaching an agreement with President Trump, David Ellison—the son of the second-richest man in the world, Larry Ellison—has acquired Paramount Global, the media giant that owns CBS News.
"Larry Ellison, the largest private funder of the Israel Defense Forces, is deeply tied to the Israeli national security state and counts Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among his closest friends."
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/israels-biggest-us-donor-now-owns
SAP is literally the same story, and we all know where Microsoft stands, Accenture, Deloitte etc., etc., etc.
I had no idea.
Must be one sick bastard.
On a recent edition of Andrew Napolitano’s ‘Judging Freedom’ podcast, Colonel Laurence Wilkerson stated that Chapter 7 of the UN Charter provides for a two-thirds majority of the General Assembly to organise peace-enforcement, and that such a majority resolution would not be subject to the veto powers of the ‘Security’ Council. I think there’s a similar provision for expelling a member State.
Are those two propositions valid, and what can individuals do to request such actions
by the General Assembly to end the Zionazi assault on the Palestinians and their supporters?
Even if true, so what? Who is going to enforce this?
Expulsion would presumably need no enforcement.
The GA has organised multinational peacekeeping forces before, so could presumably do so again.
Um, if you think that the GA would challenge the United States militarily, I don't want what you are smoking.
LOL. But it might depend on which nations were willing to participate. Uncle Sam is no longer the power he claims to be, and if he tried to fight in order to continue his suppirt for genocide, he could have a revolution on his hands.
But first things first: how can one best approach UN members to urge them to put the necessary motions?
Stop kidding yourself.
Well i doubt if expulsion would require the GA to “challenge the United States militarily”.
Dismantle Zionist Israel and it will sort itself out. A free united Palestine where former Israelis who are sane enough to behave become Palestinians would be a self selection process in the main.
Minus every war criminal.
Difficult one because virtually every Israeli is a war criminal. Pragmatism and common sense would be needed.
Charges, trials, and sentences will be needed. I don't think voicing an opinion (in support of genocide) will get people jailed -- yes, that would be the whole population. Levy fines for that, yes. Give the money to rebuild Palestine. The murderers: prison, the rapists: prison, the leadership who ordered this: prison. That's a start.
Not being Palestinian, I can only think about what is or could be a possible logical outcome. If I were Palestinian with a say in the matter, I would accept anything that would call attention to civil/human rights of my people. One state, two state, three state, four. This seems like a failure of revolution however, it seems the world needs an excuse to provide food, and healthcare? Never in my life did I think we would fail at being humans with building a new Nazi empire. I know this line of thought sounds so chaotic but I am at a loss as to how Palestinians can move forward without a group like the BRICS embracing them. I wrote to Lula asking he accept Palestine into BRICS at the call for a new meeting. No response so...........
No deal that Israel makes with the Palestinians at this time in point can or will be in the best Interest of the Palestinians. As long as Israel remains in the middle east its a loose loose proposition for the Palestinians.
Israel knows it ,Americas leaders knows it, and the other former Western Colonial imperialist knows it
As long as Israel remains in the ME it’s a losing proposition for all countries in the Middle East.
Thanks Caitlin and Tom. You both are a fountain of knowledge and wisdom. I am in awe of your ability to keep generating ideas and strategies. Your full body massages as well as the self-work are really bearing their fruits.
When you publish new hard copies of Johnstone, can you please find an alternative to Amazon for these books? I would love to purchase the books, but I won't break my boycott of evil Amazon. (and we all should boycott them as they are on the BDS list: https://bdsmovement.net/Guide-to-BDS-Boycott )
Have you looked into Lulu for self publishing? They do print-on-demand books. https://www.lulu.com/
As corporations go, they seem fairly ethical: https://www.lulu.com/about-us
Also, Kobo if they aren't there already. It's my kindle alternative.
"Sinwa asks on Facebook, “Where do you think it will all end?”
I'll offer my opinion, on what I see happening.......
We all know, that the demonic Khazarian State (aka 'Iz-ra-Hell') CANNOT help themselves; they really can't. And they WILL fuck with Iran, AGAIN!
Only THIS time, Iran will show NO MERCY......and 'END' them!
And THIS is how the People of Palestine will get the Land, and Freedom, BACK, from those Satanists!
GOD BLESS IRAN!
Hope, Change, Believe !
I love that you're essentially optimistic. If Gaza isn't a rallying cry to the world to make big changes to ourselves and our systems, I don't know what is.
Those advocating for a single state are only seeking to prolong our suffering by forcing us to live side by side with our own killers. We support a state for Palestinians—separate from Israel—because we are a different people, with our own ethnicity, culture, and values. We do not want to be bound by policies we reject or to be governed alongside Israelis whose political choices we do not share. Let them have their state, and let us have ours. The one-state idea has virtually no support in the international community. So if Israelies say two states is unrealistic...
People advocating a single state are also saying the Zionist Jews be sent back to Europe, with many being tried for war crimes and Palestine restored to its entirety.
As long as Israel exists in any way, nobody in the Middle East will have security.
The two state solution is a farce. It’s meant to waste time and no agreement will ever be made by Israel.
Vijay Prashad gave what I thought was a valid argument to fight for a 2-state solution. Not because anybody expects it to be honorably pursued or because it represents a rational policy. Right now it is a UN endorsed policy that received rhetorical support from many western governments that made no effort to hide their support for Israel. It has had western backing from day one, and it stands as the best immediate alternative to Netanyahu and his government of genocide enforcers.
Israhell has lost any right to anything especially existence. After murdering in cold blood over 350 more near 400 thousand Palestinians, starved them mutilated and raped, destroyed children, removed limbs, stole organs and skin- you think they have any right to exist on stolen land with all their hate? They are not Semitic people. They have no ethnicity from the region. They can return to Eastern European Ashkenazi lands or repopulate Germany and Poland and the US and Britain- the countries supporting their genocide should take them in- it’s only fair. Leave Palestine alone and rid the land of those horrible murderers and oppressors and thieves
I'd be willing to have them stay in Palestine and go to prison for their crimes. Perhaps it will be the kind of prison where you work, and the proceeds can go to rebuild Palestine.
the two state solution is like asking everyone who the nazis kept in concentration camps to stay in concentration camps with nazi guards to just be cool about it while they slowly get killed
Hi Caitlin, that was a great read and had even cynical miserable old me twitch briefly with hope. I write the occasional angry rant across several platforms but am usually too angry to string a coherent sentence together so thank you! Seriously, I don't know how you stay sane, but please don't stop. I will continue to share your work as widely as I can.
https://roslynross.substack.com/p/to-state-the-facts
Two states is wonderful symbolism and great in theory but impossible in reality. There can only be one free Palestine.
See also Don Hank's Substack https://donhank.substack.com/p/the-us-backed-israeli-terror-is-a
https://donhank.substack.com/p/we-must-never-forgive-or-forget-the
https://donhank.substack.com/p/real-christians-dont-support-infanticide
There should be a one-state solution: Palestine, and let them decide if they want to LEASE any land to the Zionists.
Let germany lease land to the zionazis. Let the US lease land to the zionazis. The Palestinians have no need and no use for these bastards.
Please don't give the US that idea. They already cater enough to zionist bastards enough as it already is.
Thank you, great ideas. Obviously, the Palestinians wouldn't do it, unless the zionists converted to Judaism and totally behaved themselves. So, not at all likely. But two-state - never!
I love that you have that optimism. There's a part of me that has for a while been thinking that this is a turning point, a wake up call - not just on Palestine but on a much broader perspective and that this is the point at which humanity can reclaim its future. In some ways the people of Gaza, through their courage, resilience and steadfastness show us what humans are capable of. But also, at this point it is so overwhelmingly horrible that my little bit of optimism keeps getting squashed down. That there are others who can see that there may be something better ahead, no matter what, helps.
It's not taboo to express optimism Caitlin. However, in the words of Richard Crim 'false hope is 'Disinformation'.
How on earth do we get our leaders to sanction the US, a really harsh weapon that affects the people way more than the politicians, or put 'pressure' on the US when they're being blackmailed and bribed by them, sitting on Trump's knee and literally calling him Daddy?
Sure Palestine won't be destroyed, there are millions all over the world, but the genocide in Gaza will end when all Palestinians there are dead or dispersed. The dismantling of the US Empire (the power and influence of fossil fuels, animal ag, arms, pharma, AI, tech, banking and media) will take longer than people take to starve.
How on earth do we get a healthy world when carbon emissions are still increasing, renewables are doing nothing to slow it down, forests are still being destroyed for animal ag, oceans are emptied of fish and filled with plastic and mercury, people are still getting autism from pesticides and vaccines and the Empire has a vice like grip on our health and and the health of the planet? Even if we stopped all this tomorrow temperatures keep increasing and don't go down. They stay here, with 2025 the 2nd or 3rd hottest on record and it's not even an El Nino year (And we're not going to change our behaviour tomorrow.) It's not just the fires and floods. It's FOOD. The Empire thinks it can sit the crisis out. It's ready for its bunkers and shooting agricultural migrants at the borders, hoping the global south will have been starved and destroyed by the time they reemerge.
We need to be facing up and accepting what's coming.
Not living in a fantasy world where protesting in the street or reposting on social media makes everything OK.
Totally agree and feel what you feel but we are just little people trying to do the best we can without losing our minds and our humanity. Much as I wish Michael Rennie and a giant robot would land in a flying saucer in Washington to set things right, that isn't going to happen, so keep protesting, keep writing, keep banging those pots and pans.