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MM's avatar
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Caitlin, we're all grateful for your "trip". We wouldn't be here on THIS journey with you otherwise.

Your ability to put into words what most of us have felt since October 7 (and earlier) is an art that most people cannot master. But it's something you should be proud of.

You may have been naive at one point (as we all were), but now all of our eyes are wide open.

Like you wrote yesterday, people cannot unsee what they've seen.

It feels very much like we're living through the Matrix, but without the obligatory Hollywood ending.

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"The onus is on the party committing genocide to stop committing genocide. The onus is not on the victims of the genocide to sign agreements in the hope of saving themselves from the genocide. This is obvious to anyone who isn’t a psychopath"

We're in 2025, and the fact that this needs to be said defies all sense of comprehension.

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Alexey Sobolev's avatar

The Nazi "Israel" must be disbanded.

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X K's avatar

I'd just add "and held to account too."

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Alexey Sobolev's avatar

Half of the Western World should be held accountable, including the main instigator of wars, the United States.

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X K's avatar

Yes, indeed "round up the usual suspects."

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

For that to happen, it seems like the Nazi "America" might need to be disbanded too!

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Caitline writes "I just kinda felt my way through the human experience as the barefoot hippie earth mama that I am, and it carried me to a clear intuitive understanding that the western empire must end and that capitalism cannot carry our species into the future."

The Western empire is based on capitalism which brings power for only a part of us.

In my already longtime opinion this should and will collapse. Maybe with Trump ?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"In my already longtime opinion this should and will collapse. Maybe with Trump ?"

I hope so. I've been attempting to explain to people how Trump is killing America (and the rest of the world of course) from the inside - i.e. internal implosion. Trump is also doing what he can (unknowingly and unintentionally) to kill Capitalism (due to the self-cannibalizing nature of capitalism).

Those that truly understand how Capitalism works understand the dynamics and relationships between numerous variables here, while those that don't refuse to 'open their eyes' to see the changes happening right in front of their eyes due to the policies, actions, and behaviors of the Trump administration.

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Helga Fellay's avatar

A similar idea came to my mind when drumpf came up with his "tarifs".

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes, it was sheer madness and chaos. There are NO winners with his ‘tariffs’ craziness. Everyone loses (including him). But Trump’s too stupid/dumb to realize this, and his enablers all have their own agendas.

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Landru's avatar

Very well said. Greed and Fear are Capitalism. I never considered myself an Accelerationist however, here we are accelerating downward for most and upward for the 6 people. I look at the u.s. Gov. shutdown and listen to the rhetoric for Genocide Don saying out loud I will shutdown permanently all that he doesn't want funded and the SP 500 closed at record high while 750,00 people were sent home. This is the same action of capital in late 1929. In 2007 I purchased Put Options on Lehman Brothers because I wanted to laugh at one of the largest brokerage banks in the world accelerate to the bottom. I laughed and don't know how to trade the options when they declared bankruptcy ha. AIG was another : ) We as a country failed to make the turn to Socialism the day Obummer bailed out General Motors with Fed funding rather than secure the worker buyout of the company. That was the end of less violent shift in economy. We are on the backside of that tipping point again and this time there is no Fed bailout with 37.5 Trillion in debt with a collapsing dollar. Maybe BitCoin and AI/Quantum will save us ha. Damn humans are so predictable : ) I know this end will be horrible for billions around the world as the Evil Empires death throws escalate from war to war, markets collapsing and workers being thrown under the tesla. Sorry, it just started coming out after reading Caitlin's brilliant thoughts on where she is and how she got there. Logic tells me we need community now more than ever. Thank you my friend. 4800$ Bernie stupid I am : (

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Nikolay's avatar

"...how Trump is killing America (and the rest of the world of course)..."

"...behaviors of the Trump administration."

Here is quote from "Informed comment":

"Thankfully, Hegseth’s vision is not shared by many of the veterans of America’s disastrous post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. The eye-opening documentary What I Want You to Know presents the views of just such veterans about their service and about the meaning of the conflicts they fought in. Almost to a person (no, not “a man”!), they said the following four things:

– They don’t know why they were sent to the places where they fought

– They did not believe the U.S. could win the war they were sent to fight

– Their government lied to them

– They were forced to do things that will haunt them for the rest of their lives."

https://e.mail.ru/trash/0:17593358061156446360:500002/

All mentioned above happened not under Trump administration.

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Thank you. We are soulmates.

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Landru's avatar

My path was that of Caitlin's. I see no other logical way forward. I had a disagreement with Chris Hedges during the Occupy Wall Street protests. Chris made the statement no movement can be successful with a single leader with voice of the movement. His example was Bernie Sanders which I believed could be that leader and not the traitor he became. I hear no voices today other than Kshama Sawant who unfortunately can not run as President. Workers Strike Back : )

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Alexey Sobolev's avatar

It's unlikely that anyone can do it. But maybe she'll burst soon. The main thing is that she doesn't provoke a world war.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I think/hope so too. All I know is that humanity (and the world) is in DESPERATE need for some help. If there ever was a God, NOW is the time to show up and right some grievous wrongs perpetrated on so many humans throughout the world by those in positions of power (and wealth).

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Chang, An ardent advocate of 'realism 'writes:

" If there ever was a God, NOW is the time to show up and right some grievous wrongs....."

Really Chang!

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Helga Fellay's avatar

that may yet happen - but isn't it enough that it has caused other wars in other countries, around the world. Isn't that almost like a world war?

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Jon Olsen's avatar

Secession by region, as with the peaceful end of the USSR, needs to be a topic for discussion.

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Alexey Sobolev's avatar

The collapse of the USSR was not peaceful; it was accompanied by bloody wars. In some republics, wars are still ongoing. Similar wars will occur in the United States, as Washington will never voluntarily grant freedom to the states. However, the states will not only fight against Washington; they will also engage in conflicts with each other over land and natural resources.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Interesting...hadn't thought of that.

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Jon Olsen's avatar

Not raise an army, just walk away. No more IRS, "Federal Reserve", or aggressive foreign policies. Frack the Empire1

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Landru's avatar

Yes, however the longer we wait the harder it will be as the wealth continues to concentrate at the top. The Colonization continues : (

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martin's avatar

@jon olsen: according to some the 'peaceful end of the ussr' was pretty much like the trumpanyahu peace plan.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

Pound sand baby killer. You don't belong anywhere but isn't real. I call it isn't real because without blackmailing and bribing western politicians to get western money, weapons, and intel, isn't real wouldn't last 20 years.

isn't real isn't a real country and has absolutely no right to exist.....because without parasiting off of western countries, that supremacist desert armpit wouldn't exist.

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King Edward I's avatar

Stop trying to change the subject baby killer. The world is disgusted by baby killing jews. Gods chosen hypocrites are repulsive deceivers, liars, and manipulators.

"beheaded babies"

"mass rapes by hamas"

"notsees shrank jewish heads"

"notsees killed the Poles and buried them in a mass grave at Katyn"

The lies just never stop. Why is that? Is it because the torah stories teach jews that lying is good if it benefits them?

It reminds me of the esau/jacob story. jacob was a liar and deceiver and tricked his own father to benefit himself over his brother esau. It appears that this story has sunk into the jewish psyche and taught the jews that deception and lies are good.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Fuck off with your Islamic deflectionism lee Rigby says you're a faggot of goitardian proportions where's your failed Messiah? Jesus ain't going to save you from your Anglican priests who supplicate to Islam and sent the pope to Constantinople to pray in the direction of Mecca and appoint erdogan as the gatekeeper for the migrant hordes who appeared when Mama Merkel of Germany said bring them in we spread our legs open wide for the military age men to enrich and diversify our continent and we will call it eurabia & Londonistan and stab our citizens in the back like every Church stabs every Christian in the back when it's not stabbing the Jews in the back fuck off with that and fuck you and fuck Islam and fuck you up for fucking us, the god of Israel has replaced the Jews you burnt with angry Muslim youth who are running amok with the blessings of your governments your popes your kings and your priests and you're fucked because you're a pussy bitching about Jews fighting back and not turning the other cheek like goitardia is required to that's why there's 20 less Christian countries just this century alone lost to Islam a pathetic 7th century war cult

https://open.substack.com/pub/sleuthfox/p/first-the-saturday-people-then-the?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=36c3b5

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King Edward I's avatar

Look shlomoberg, it's called punctuation...you know, periods, semicolons, etc. Look into it.

And WHO are the (((ones))) demanding that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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King Edward I's avatar

"Israel: Leader of the Free World"

My god you jews live in a world of make believe. You people are completely delusional. You people seriously need to be institutionalized; you're all a bunch of mental cases.

jews-israel are NOT the leaders of the free world.

jews-israel HATE freedom and free speech.

That is why jews:

1. Are demanding university students be stopped from protesting against jews committing a genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

2. Forced US prostitute "politicians" into demanding tiktok be sold to a bunch of jewish zionists

3. Are constantly pressuring twitter/x to stop non jews from criticizing jewish power and israel

4. Try to dox and destroy the lives of any non jews that dare to criticize jewish power.

5. Demand that BDS not be allowed on university campuses

6. Forced 38 states to pass laws or executive orders penalizing boycotts of Israel

7. Demand the ADL, world jewish congress, and other jewish groups be part of the "online safety" departments of large platforms so they can silence critics of jewish power and israel.

jews are absolutely opposed to freedom of non jews. So just take your delusions with you to israel. You and your people do not belong in nations that appreciate freedom for ALL. Supremacist lowlife.

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King Edward I's avatar

tommy robinsonberg is a traitor against the British people. He's a disgrace. If he loves israel so much, he should move there. Baby killers and baby killer supporters are all disgusting and all belong in israel.

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David Korabell's avatar

I feel like all the talk of Trump's and Netanyahu's peace plan is concealing the fact it is actual a piece plan - Trump gets a big piece, Israel gets a big piece, and the Palestinians get screwed.

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Davina's avatar

That is exactly what I was thinking, not peace; pieces to be shared with the supporters of the genocide, who should actually be standing in front of the CCC AND CCJ.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Davina, This is exactly what happened with the previous western colonialists - they drew lines in the sand - and divided the spoils.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Davina, Just to add a PS:

And to this day we are left with the cause and effect of their vile ways.

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Davina's avatar

The vand their accomplicies should be made to rebuild the homes and businesses their complicity or support that allowed to be destroyed, including the Arab states that did nothing to help, even after Israel bombed the meeting place of the pretend peace talks

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Aamir Razak's avatar

Well said. The "piece" plan, rewards the occupiers and those who enable it, while further disenfranchising the victims of the ongoing genocide and further denying them their rights, dignity and sovereignty. What a shameful "peace" plan

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Helga Fellay's avatar

I wonder if it isn't more like Trump gets a huge piece, Bibi gets all the rest, and the Palestinians get totally screwed, or just wiped out completely.

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Davina's avatar

More likely, Drumpf gets a bit of Gaza and satanyahu takes the USofAsreal. Hold on folks, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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Helga Fellay's avatar

I think I may start referring to the MAGAlandas as the USof AssUnreal. All these possibilities,and they all make sense in some bizarre way.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

You missed the part where no consequences were had for the war starters fuck Islam fuck you and fuck Islamic deflectionists like you who think that a 58th Islamic State carved out of the eternal only Jewish state can supplicate the caliphate fuck that and fuck turning the other cheek Jews are keeping what's theirs as goitard's lose what they had because their Pope went to Constantinople in 2006 and prayed in a church that's now a mosque in the direction of Mecca to a point erdogan as the GateKeeper for the Islamic youth who heard Mama merkel's call and spread Germany's legs wide open and said bring all of them and they're still coming and your governments don't fight back because you fuckers turn the other cheek and bitch about the Jews living in their ancestral Homeland fighting back against the jihadis that are doing Christmas market drive-throughs grooming gangs and endless fuckery wherever they go but because you're deranged about Jews Palestinians or something you supposedly care about when they're the most anti-civilizational regressive bloody filthy hateful cult

https://open.substack.com/pub/sleuthfox/p/first-the-saturday-people-then-the?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=36c3b5

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King Edward I's avatar

jews are gay. That is why you have to buy or blackmail "friends". It's also why you can't debate on a level playing field but insist on owning the media, and censoring everyone you don't like.

Fake, weak and gay. Nobody wants your jewish big brother authoritarianism. Piss off to israel psycho boy.

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dale ruff's avatar

This peace plan is based on a poison pill, namely continued Israeli occupation with Gaza remaining a prison, with exit and entry controlled by the IDF. In addition, the naval blockade, which prevents Palestine from developing its 1 trillion cu ft of gas in the Gaza Marine is, by definition, an act of war, which undermines the lable of Peace Agreement. And as Israel blocks humanitarian aid by sea, that makes it a war crime.

The purpose is to present a plan that demands that Hamas surrender, disarm and give up all hostages so it has no leverage at all, leaving Gaza totally in control of its prison guards. The puurpose of the poison pill is to know that Hamas will reject, which will rationalize intensifying the genocidal attack on Gaza.

It's a set up to justify the"final solution," which is to kill more people and make Gaza so unlivable that ethnic cleansing will become a "life-saving" operation, since Gazans will be faced with leave or die.

War is a racket ISmedley butler wrote in 1936) and Netanyahu and Trump are just two con men with a phony deal designed to blame Hamas for the war and continued genocide.

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MM's avatar

And who better to "administer" the peace plan than slimy Tony Blair, who got his first taste of genocide with the Iraq War?

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Tony is the poster child of slime and war crimes!

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

Don't forget the former Labor Party UK PM de-camped from London to live in a tony Tony Blair condo in J-Salem not long after he left 10 Downing Street, London where he was quick to show his entrepreneurial panache after leading Brit Military forces alongside his Sr Partners from Washington and West Point during the American-Anglo "coalition" invasion of Iraq and deposing of the western empire's propped up Iraqi golem from Tikrit, Saddam Hussein who wound up hiding in a spider hole just outside of town as the CEO's of invading forces closed in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Saddam_Hussein

" United Kingdom: Prime Minister Tony Blair, President George W. Bush's strongest ally in the Iraq War, called the capture good news for Iraqis, saying: "It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare of a return to the Saddam regime."[26]

Blair had many consulting offers if not solid contacts among grateful Israeli and inter-continental corporations and potential business opportunities with Palestinians to cultivate while juggling White House liaison. That Labor Party Anglo wunderkind learned much more about corporate consulting than anything to do with making life better for Wage Slave working slobs & stiffs like me!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169342/An-identity-crisis-Blair-Former-PM-describes-Jerusalem-home.html

https://www.jpost.com/diplomacy-and-politics/blair-leaves-colony-hotel-for-new-digs-in-sheikh-jarrah

https://apnews.com/article/britain-tony-blair-mideast-gaza-trump-plan-76e663c132d73ba151ad70ebf6ac958c

"World News"

"Tony Blair’s long experience in the Middle East is both his strength and his weakness"

"Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has returned to the forefront of Middle East peace efforts after a U.S. peace plan on ending the Israel-Hamas war cast him in a leading role in overseeing the post-war administration and reconstruction of the Gaza Strip."

2 of 4 | "President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday they’ve agreed on a plan to end the war in Gaza, but it’s unclear whether Hamas will accept the terms. Trump on Monday laid out a 20-point plan for ending the Israel-Hamas war and establishing a temporary governing board in the war-battered Palestinian territory that would be headed by Trump and include former British Prime Minister Tony Blair."

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"Former British Prime Minister Sir Tony Blair reacts as he gives a speech at Hillsborough Castle for the Gala dinner to mark the 25th anniversary of the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement, in Belfast, Northern Ireland, April 19, 2023."

(Charles McQuillan/Pool Photo via AP, File)

3 of 4 | "Former British Prime Minister Sir Tony Blair reacts as he gives a speech at Hillsborough Castle for the Gala dinner to mark the 25th anniversary of the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement, in Belfast, Northern Ireland, April 19, 2023."

(Charles McQuillan/Pool Photo via AP, File)

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"Britain's former Prime Minister Tony Blair walks through the COP28 U.N. Climate Summit, Sunday, Dec. 3, 2023, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool, file)"

4 of 4 | "Britain’s former Prime Minister Tony Blair walks through the COP28 U.N. Climate Summit, Sunday, Dec. 3, 2023, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool, file)"

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"By JILL LAWLESS and DANICA KIRKA

Updated 9:15 PM PDT, September 30, 2025

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LIVERPOOL, England (AP) — Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has returned to the forefront of Middle East peace efforts after a U.S. peace plan on ending the Israel-Hamas war cast him in a leading role in overseeing the post-war administration and reconstruction of the Gaza Strip."

"It’s familiar territory for Blair, who spent eight years working to promote peace between Israel and the Palestinians as the international community’s envoy to the Middle East."

"His decision to step down in 2015 was seen as a reflection of the dire state of Mideast peace efforts that devolved further under the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."

"The U.S. proposal — which President Donald Trump and Netanyahu said they agreed on after talks at the White House on Monday — would put Gaza’s territory and its more than 2 million people effectively under international control, deploying an international security force and installing a “Board of Peace” headed by Trump and Blair to oversee the administration and reconstruction."

"Hamas said Tuesday it would study the plan, both within the group and with other Palestinian factions before responding."

Stay tuned...

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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Rarely is an excuse for genocide so transparent: "A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. "

By definition, an occupied territory is not self-governing and has the right of armed resistance. If Israel had not blocked the development of the 100 billion of gas an oil in the Gaza Marine and West Bank, worth 30 billion in profits, but instead kept the Gazans dependent by immiserating them, controlling borders, finances, and periodically massacring thousands (while supporting Hamas to prevent unified demand for statehood, by which the oil/gas could be developed to make Palestine a wealthy small nation, Palestine would be a prosperous nation.

unctad reports: "The unrealized potential of Palestinian oil and gas reserves

28 August 2019

Oil and natural gas resources in the occupied Palestinian territory could generate hundreds of billions of dollars for development."

: Israel’s control over territory, borders, and resources has prevented Palestinians from fully exploiting their oil and gas reserves, keeping the territories dependent on Israeli energy imports." chatgpt with primary sources

Israel blocked development and kept Palestine poor because it wants that oil and gas for itself, stealing the resources as it stole the land in 1948.

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Try to be even more soft and soy as you supplicate to the Islamic malevolent malarkey that is surrounding all of us come up you'll go softly into the night and convert quickly when the Muslims come for you, however Jews don't turn the other cheek nor should we as goitardians are told to, beyond that Israel has the most claim to legitimate country status on the planet

57 Islamic nations are 57 too many and what's more retarded and pathetic than 24 Arabic speaking Nations all pissing and moaning whining and groaning like greedy sharmutas who didn't get paid that the Jews are living in their ancestral Homeland as the Quran commands 43 times, then they wonder why they keep losing nothing more pathetic than Islamic deflectionists supplicating to Islam fuck you fuck Palestine fuck Islam and fuck your goitarded pope yesterday who blessed a block of ice while ignoring the deaths from Islam everywhere from Congo to Nigeria to Syria that the crucifix worshipers suffer from

Consult the religion of peace.com for a taste of how bad it really is as you're goitarded bubble of protecting them is ripped away and you're seen as a pathetic cunt for a 7th century barbarian cult that's occupied and destroyed Europe.

Best part was when your pope went to Constantinople in 2006 and blessed erdogan and Mama Merkel spread Germany's legs wide and said bring them all in so he did

Eurabia 😵‍💫😳

Goitardian made and blessed by the papacy

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King Edward I's avatar

Hey shlomo

WHO are the (((ones))) that have demanded that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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Slimy as an eel.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

The slimiest of creatures is the goitardian Islamic deflectionist bitching about Jews having a life in their Homeland what's more pathetic than a cringey crucifixionist bitching about Jews thriving as the fifth happiest nation in the third millennium in the year 5786 despite goitardian bitching forevermore, news alert you're not the goilords anymore ruling over your Jews as if they are subjects of you fuck you and fuck Christine's who supplicate to Islam, there's 20 less Islamic Nations just this century alone because of useless mangina soft bitches who turn the other cheek like you

https://open.substack.com/pub/sleuthfox/p/first-the-saturday-people-then-the?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=36c3b5

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So shlomoberg, if you hate Muslims so much, why are jewish constantly trying to get them into the west? Do you hate Europeans?

WHO are the (((ones))) that have demanded that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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Today, Counterpunch came out with an article that mirrors my above comment about the poison pills in the Trump plan. I will quote the pills that they planted by Netanyahu in his iterpretation of the vague Trump plan:

"Here are just a few of those poison pills:

Captive Release vs. Withdrawal

Trump’s Item 3 promised: “If both sides agree to this proposal … Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed-upon line to prepare for a hostage release.”

Netanyahu retorted:

“Israel will retain security responsibility, including a security perimeter, for the foreseeable future … the first step will be a modest withdrawal.”

Israel’s benefit is instant: the return of all captives. Palestinians, meanwhile, are promised a “modest withdrawal” to an undefined line, all while Israel retains security responsibility, a loophole allowing Israel to re-enter Gaza at will.

Gaza’s Governing Body

Trump’s Item 9 envisioned an international body managing Gaza’s redevelopment until the Palestinian Authority (PA) reformed and could govern. Netanyahu clarified Israel’s position:

“Gaza will have a peaceful civilian administration that is run neither by Hamas nor by the Palestinian Authority.”

Trump gave Israel the right to dictate who governs Gaza, while Palestinians told they are not ready to govern themselves, not even by the submissive PA.

Statehood Illusions

Trump’s Item 19 suggested a “credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood” if (PA) reforms were carried out. Netanyahu dismissed the very premise:

“Israelis have no faith that the PA leopard will change its spots … Gaza will not be administered by the Palestinian Authority.”

He then redefined the PA “reforms” as ending Palestinian appeals to the ICC and ICJ, recognizing Israel as a “Jewish state,” and accepting “many, many other reforms.”

New conditions that have nothing to do with governance or effective administration. They are political pretexts, crafted to sabotage Trump’s 20-point plan or to render the PA irrelevant should it “reform” on Israel’s terms.

Occupation

Trump’s Item 16 declared: “Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza.” Netanyahu replied:

“Israel … will remain in the security perimeter for the foreseeable future.”

Translation: Israel will occupy Gaza.

Further to the above clear rebuttals undermining Trump’s Plan, still even more telling is Item 8: Neutral Aid Distribution—it calls for “aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent…”

Unwittingly, Trump’s Plan acknowledges that the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation was not “neutral” but a tool using food as a weapon against a captive population.

Trump stood silently as Netanyahu gutted his plan, offering no objection but showering Netanyahu with praise as a “warrior.” The plan offers Israel everything in advance, by contrast, Palestinians receive conditional promises, vague timelines in the “foreseeable” future. Even that, according to Netanyahu, is contingent on Palestinian compliance and “good behavior.”

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Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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The essence of rightwing Zionism is that Jews, as the chosen people, have the right to expel the natives of Palestine and occupy the land, using lies, nukes, and genocide to fulfill their dream. This ambition goes back even before the founding. Here is Ben gurian in a letter to his son: "What we really want is not that the land remain

whole and unified. What we want is that the whole and unified land be Jewish

[emphasis original]. A unified Eretz Israeli would be no source of satisfaction for

me-- if it were Arab.

From our standpoint, the status quo is deadly poison. We want to change the status

quo [emphasis original]. But how can this change come about? How can this land

become ours? The decisive question is: Does the establishment of a Jewish state

[in only part of Palestine] advance or retard the conversion of this country into a

Jewish country?

My assumption (which is why I am a fervent proponent of a state, even though it is

now linked to partition) is that a Jewish state on only part of the land is not the end

but the beginning.

When we acquire one thousand or 10,000 dunams, we feel elated. It does not hurt

our feelings that by this acquisition we are not in possession of the whole land.

This is because this increase in possession is of consequence not only in itself, but

because through it we increase our strength, and every increase in strength helps in

the possession of the land as a whole. The establishment of a state, even if only on

a portion of the land, is the maximal reinforcement of our strength at the present

time and a powerful boost to our historical endeavors to liberate the entire country.

We shall admit into the state all the Jews we can. We firmly believe that we can

admit more than two million Jews. We shall build a multi-faceted Jewish

economy-- agricultural, industrial, and maritime. We shall organize an advanced

defense force—a superior army which I have no doubt will be one of the best

armies in the world. At that point I am confident that we would not fail in settling

in the remaining parts of the country, through agreement and understanding with

our Arab neighbors, or through some other means." Other means were used (terrorism, massacres, destroying over 500 villages) and is bieng used today (genocide) to "liberate the entire country" for Israel.

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57 Islamic nations are 57 too many if they say that one Jewish nation is one too many fuck off with that and then there's 24 arabic speaking Arab countries whining moaning pissing and groaning that one Jewish hebrew-speaking nation is too much when 78% of the original land promised for the Jewish nation was given away unilaterally to the hashemites from Saudi Arabia by the British further fucking the Jews be on fucking the Jews and not letting them have sanctuary as shitler was indulged and cooperated with by the Europeans forever more Jewish blood poured, that will be no more fuck off to Islam Islamic deflectionists Islamic enablers and goitards who cry for jihadies lake soft mangina bitches supplicating to Islam is anti-civilizational and palestinianism is peak anti-civilizational

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King Edward I's avatar

Hey shlomo

WHO are the (((ones))) that have demanded that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

If you jews hate Muslims so much, why are you demanding they mass migrate to the west?

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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Susan T's avatar

"This feels like kind of a confession"......but from where I sit, you have nothing to confess. You got here. Many never do. During the Vietnam war when I was in Paris, I met a lot of Vietnamese people who were there studying so they could go back to Vietnam, get the Americans out, and run a communist government. Up until then I was oblivious to the fact that we are lied to about what is actually going on in the world. Unbelievably, I actually thought that we lived in a democracy where those with power cared about who they governed. And I thought we were saving the people in Vietnam from communism. Little by little, I have come to the place where I am now, which is mostly a place of no trust at all in our so-called system of democracy and in our so-called "leaders". Well, actually, I often feel confused and incredibly sad because I am really worried that there is no real hope. Either climate change or war will get us all. So now I use the spiritual practices (mostly meditation)I have also learned over the years to try to cope with this reality.

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Yep. All is well with the climate. These elevated temperatures and all the forest fires are just natural change. I know. You must be right. Thanks for the reminder

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ANITA WOOD's avatar

Even if Hamas accepts it the genocide won’t end. It never does with those Israel. They’ll break the ceasefire within 48 hrs

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Aamir Razak's avatar

agreed, i am doubtful the occupiers would ever abide by the rules and wouldn't just go back to committing genocide once the hostage exchange was made under this "peace" plan. They have already violated the ceasefire whenever they chose previously during this genocide

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Eddie's avatar

Exactly. I doubt any ceasefire deals last any longer than 48 seconds. It's a scam. It's always a scam.

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Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

jews hate free speech, so try again baby killer.

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Ginnie's avatar

Two white supremacist Nazi scum presuming the authority to decide the fate of Palestinians is not just repulsive. it's a grotesque display of colonial dominance. This isn’t diplomacy. It’s raw, racist power. Any plan that excludes Palestinians and hands Israel, the settler-colonial aggressor,, any measure of legitimacy is not just invalid; it’s a deliberate continuation of ethnic cleansing. This is white imperialism at its core: colonizers arbitrarily determining the lives of the people they’ve brutalized. There is no justification, no neutrality, no legitimacy here , only violent, racist fraud. What a transparently fraudulent move. These genocidal mass murderers need to be tried in a Nuremberg style court and punished for their crimes, not get to decide on the future of the people they are genociding. What an obscenity.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Of course. What does anyone propose to do about it?

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Ginnie's avatar

what do you mean what can anyone do about it? Maybe some elected officials can have half the spine Thunberg has and actually arrest Netanyahu, stop sending arms and work together to put a stop to Israel and try these people in court instead of hiding behind flowery rhetoric while a teenager goes out there risking her life trying to make a stance in the face of such imminent danger. The answers are not hard or complicated, they just require integrity and spine, none of which elected officials in the West have. We all know why they US is owned by Israel. And European nations are mostly vassal to the US. But that is all a choice at some point.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They won't. Which is why Israel will continue doing what it's doing.

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gypsy33's avatar

Humans suck, Feral, don’t they just?

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Not the Israelis

Brigitte Gabriel

@ACTBrigitte

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

Do you jews pay gabriel more or less than you paid to John McCain to be israel's cuck?

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Brigitte Gabriel

@ACTBrigitte

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

What sucks are Islamic enablers like you who overlook your derangement about Jews to fixate on the Palestinians as a source of Justice when they are just a tool used by dipshits like you and the so-called author monetizing the demonization of Jews trying to thrive in their ancestral Homeland and not become a 58th Islamic State

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King Edward I's avatar

Gabriel is paid by the israel lobby and moronic, brainwashed jew worshipping evangelitards

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Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

LOL. As jews push for speech codes, book burning, censorship, and punishing university students that protest jews killing babies in Gaza, lol, this jew pretends his people support "freedom".

What a joke. That is like claiming a scam artist supports integrity. Get lost, hasbaraboy.

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Your pope went to Constantinople and prayed in a church that's now a mosque that wasn't supposed to become a mosque but just like goitards turn the other cheeks while spreading them because they are weak and meek resulting in 20 fewer Christian nations just this century alone and he prayed in the direction of Mecca and appointed erdogan to be the gatekeeper for the Muslims who came in to Germany who Mama Merkel spread the legs of to bring the military age men in, your church stabs you in the back as much as it stabs the Jews in the back fuck you fuck your church fuck Palestine fuck England Tommy was the only one who could have saved it and useless cunts like you throw him under the bus you're getting what you deserve and you're going to get more of it and more of it and more of it and you've earned it for you are an anti-civilizational English trash cunt, may your kin be groomed traffic and humiliated by your government and Islam forevermore for you are a useless Islamic deflectionist cunt who's earned everything he's got coming May the curse of Islam be upon you and your nation and all of those around you forevermore the Jews won't be turning their cheek and will be residing for another 80 generations in their eternal Homeland and there will not be a 58th Islamic Nation on the bones of the Jewish Nation, but England is lost with London less than one third white because you turn the other cheek and are weak and meek

Can't fix stupid the Torah says if someone is coming to kill you kill them first Islam is dominating your streets and announcing it's going to kill you first keep on turning your other cheek and be weak and meek and fuck off down the street right back to goitardia and have some cannibal Christ on the wrong Sabbath while you await your failed Messiah the reason it's called the crucifixion is if it was real it would be called the crucifact nothing says failed Messiah like manufacturing a so-called second coming to make up for the zero accomplishments of the so-called first coming and why need 31,000 flavors of jezeusian delusional mythology so that Europe can fight each other over who's crucifix is shinier, peak Euro trash culture was the 100 and the 30-year wars along with the crusaders performing cannibalism as they did the massacres of the Innocence because they didn't pray hard enough fuck you fuck Islam fuck your church fuck all of you and fuck the phony phallustinians forevermore right back to Qatar

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martin's avatar

i propose going commie.

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King Edward I's avatar

Nope. Everything the left knows about communism is wrong. Watch the full video "goy guide to world history part 6".

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martin's avatar

been there, done that, know what it serves.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Well, that was basically what V.I. Lenin proposed in "What Is To Be Done", which is turn was written as a response to N.G. Chernishevskii's "What Is To Be Done?", which was basically asked what I was asking, albeit in the form of a novel.

Lenin was many things, but he had a remarkably clear-eyed view of power and how it is used and on whose behalf.

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There are a lot of armchair philosophers here..

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Brigitte Gabriel

@ACTBrigitte

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

gabriel is a paid prostitute of the israel first lobby.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

I thought we're supposed to believe women victims, not when they're victims of Palestinians I guess, good luck with your goitardation and your Islamic domination of your once great nation Tommy could have saved it but goitards like you fucked it up you shit your bed now sleep in it

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No, you jews...as usual, shit in OUR bed...

Hey shlomo

WHO are the (((ones))) that have demanded that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

You jews support censorship. Stop pretending that you support freedom for the goys. You are a liar like your ancestor jacob the liar.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Your government made entirely of goyim proof enabled Muslims to rule them and are the epitome of two-tier policing may you encounter it often and hard for you are a goitard Tommy could have saved you but your deranged and would rather throw yourself under the bus to Islam and your king who's stabbing you in the back along with your Anglican Church who facilitates the forever more flow of more and more and more degradation of the formerly Great Britain made shitty by people like you because you're a shitty person supporting shitty people eat shit and die you shit your bed now sleep in it and fuck off to goitardia

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"It’s silly how people call it “the Holy Land”. If the land was holy it would have turned Israelis into decent people."

Brilliantly said, Caitlin. I just started laughing out loud when I read it. Loved it! ❤️🙏

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"My job as a westerner is to oppose the western empire that is butchering them, not to finger-wag and moralize at the empire’s victims."

Exactly. We can't judge what we're not experiencing. It's time for westerners to stop acting like they have to "parent" other cultures who are too childish to take care of themselves. It's time to check that arrogance.

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Davina's avatar

No one but the Palestinians should be asked about what they want for their future, and no other country has any right to tell them what they should do, or persuade them into doing something that will hand their ancestral homeland to a bunch of lying usurpers who will destroy it into some plastic playground for bored rich people whose silence or support destroyed what was once a beautiful Eastern gem - until zionist liars decided they wanted to rule the world. Drumpf is in fact in for one huge surprise if this continues. He will be handed a few million, patted on the head and told to have a nice funeral, which shouldn't be too far off.

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Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

Nope. Try again. The ADL, the world jewish congress, AIPAC, and other jewish ngos are the absolute leaders in the censorship agenda across the internet. Jews absolutely do NOT support freedom of speech for those they disagree with.

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Brigitte Gabriel

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

gabriel is a hooker for aipac and the israel firsters

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Davina's avatar

Really, you need an explanation about why the indigenous people should have a say in their own future?

Obviously you are a zionist troll, we get one or two here when things are going bad for Israhell. Byeeeee

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Davina's avatar

Why don't they have a say? Who took away their right to plan their own furture? Who has subjugated them for 80 years?

If I'm a mouthy bitch, what does that make you who agrees with Palestinians not have a say... because? Why do you appear to be so happy about them not having a say. Not once have you said that vshould have a say so, yes, it makes you seem like and more lije an Israeli troll, who usually revert to personal insults.

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Maybe listen to an easterner then

Brigitte Gabriel

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

She does the bidding of her zionut puppetmasters.

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Judith Ann Pettingell's avatar

I’m expecting war on Iran any

minute 😱😱😱

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Stephen Walker's avatar

And when they inevitably attack Iran again, that will trigger the end of the racist, genocidal Zionist entity.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Probably the US too.

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gypsy33's avatar

I hope so, Jenny. I fuckin hope so.

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jill chambers's avatar

i hope

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David D's avatar

A better version of the rapture.

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F....'s avatar

Trump & Netanyahu's peace plan in reality amounts to first of all the final solution for the Palestinians which is the genocide and chopping Gaza into little pieces of real estate including gasfields, which reminds me of Cheney's carve up of Iraq's oilfields.

This is what they're wasting our taxes on.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"This is what they're wasting our taxes on."

No, your tax money is not going there. Your tax money goes for other things, but not for 'spending by the Federal Govt.' (Check out MMT - Modern Monetary Theory)

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F....'s avatar

Wrong!

You're assuming quite a lot, any government that's providing material support to the IDF is wasting their taxpayers funds.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Dude - maybe first learn how taxation works before you speak such. The U.S. is not 'any' Govt. Any country that has sovereign control and monopoly of its currency (like the U.S. does), can print money as and when it needs it for spending purposes (like the $6 trillion for Covid and God alone knows how many trillions to bail out the banks during the financial crisis).

You think the current U.S. Debt (which is $36 trillion) came from a lack of taxes? You think all these trillions of spending on Covid and bailouts magically appeared from taxes out of thin air in an instant? Think again. The debt increases when the Fed prints money for spending purposes. Taxes are used for multiple things (like controlling inflation, etc.) but NOT for spending money by the Federal Govt.

Read and learn about how the U.S. Banking and financial system works (instead of believing narratives and talking points proferred by politicians and others).

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F....'s avatar

Wrong again, I'm not in US.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

So you're a moron then. Since you talk about U.S. taxes without knowing anything. Again, you are still VERY WRONG - as what I described is how Central Banks work - in the U.S., Canada, in Japan, in Australia, in MANY countries that have sovereign control over their currencies.

Do you understand what that means? Or do you just enjoy talking about things you have no idea/understanding of?

Of course, people like you don't like learning anything new or understanding how systems work. You just like to SHOUT whatever you believe - whether that's how it really works or not.

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Blocked.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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The author presents as a apologist for Zionism.

Why no link to the entire article?

https://georgegilder.org/2024/08/14/israel-leader-of-the-free-world/

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

To give you the satisfaction of finding it

Brigitte Gabriel

@ACTBrigitte

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

Already explained. gabriel takes money from the israel firsters.....aka, she's bought and paid for.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"And I just found the whole thing baffling. I mean, why were these people ever attracted to the left in the first place?....."

Caitlin, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND for you to read the following book -> "Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat" (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62874269) that talks more about the SPIRITUAL INDUSTRY and its confluence with Yoga, fascism, capitalism, conspiracy theories, pseudo-science cures, spritual beliefs, etc. and EXPLAINS the why/how of it all.

Here are some relevant quotes ->

(1) "Right-wing politics have always been more deeply connected to back-to-the-earth notions of natural living, bodily purity, spiritual heroism, and intuitive prophecy than is commonly acknowledged. This doesn’t mean that the majority of modern yoga and wellness people are unconsciously right-wing. Rather, it means there is an obscure pathway linking the appearance of progressivism to some very reactionary impulses."

(2) "Within months of COVID-19 erupting around the world, it was clear that the practices of disaster capitalism as described by Klein could be adapted to create an equally ruthless dynamic. In disaster spirituality, a real public health crisis, or a fictional moral panic like QAnon, can become the basis for an evangelical call to spiritual renewal. Whereas the captains of disaster capitalism seize distressed assets for privatization, the charismatics of disaster spirituality seize the attention and emotional commitment of their followers. That attention is then funneled into monetized networks that sell spiritual and wellness products focused on individual well-being (or smugness) as opposed to the common good. As a result, the consumer is left even more isolated and unprepared for social stress."

(3) "Disaster capitalism and disaster spirituality rely, respectively, on an endless supply of items to commodify and minds to recruit. While both roar into high gear in times of widespread precarity and vulnerability, in disaster spirituality there is arguably more at stake on the supply side. Hedge fund managers can buy up distressed properties in post-Katrina New Orleans to gentrify and flip. They have cash on hand to pull from when opportunity strikes, whereas most spiritual figures have to use other means for acquisitions and recruitment during times of distress."

(4) "Most of the influencers operating in today’s conspirituality landscape stand outside of mainstream economies and institutional support. They’ve been developing fringe religious ideas and making money however they can, as they battle high customer turnover."

(5) "True believers of conspirituality turn legitimate critiques that can be addressed through democratic policy making into apocalyptic crises that can only be solved by miracles. They’ve found a compelling storytelling machine that amplifies their passions. They layer and embellish their stories through online feedback loops that build trance states."

The authors also have a podcast where they share many of their experiences (which I believe are similar to the ones you have had). [https://www.conspirituality.net/episodes].

I believe you will VERY MUCH relate to it.

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Caitlin Johnstone's avatar

Interesting!

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Jo Waller's avatar

Except that there was no 'real health crisis' at all. Only a pretend one that they (industry interests) made out was created by globalists forcing us to be social minded, to be compassionate and vegan and to herd us into 15 minute cities. The spiritual wellness that was sold on the back of the fake crisis wasn't yoga or mindfulness (which are actually very beneficial), though I admit it was smugness and selfishness in the adoption and promotion of carnivore diets (which are beneficial to big animal ag and big pharma), support for fossil fuels and sneering at environmentalists. I don't see this as anything to do with spirituality or conspirituality- it's just business for powerful cartels who used reverse psychology to make out something was being taken away to make people want it.

You've got it all inverted.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Read the book, listen to the podcast, educate yourself. There's also YouTube videos and PLENTY of material - so there's NO EXCUSE for you to be so mis-informed (and attempt to double-down on being wrong).

(BTW, these aren't my opinions - they are the REAL LIFE experiences of the authors of the book)

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CJ>>"I’m seeing a lot of purportedly pro-Palestine voices proclaiming that Hamas needs to accept the deal in order to end the genocide."

Caitlin, my opinion is that NO SANE pro-Palestinian would suggest such a thing (after everything the world has witnessed over the last 2 years and the behavior of the Zionists). This is likely more Israeli hasbara and pro-Israel/pro-Zionism/pro-Genocide trolls attempting to gaslight others.

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Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi's avatar

Well done, Caitlin. It takes a long journey to detox from dreams and illusions, from theories disproved in practice to a new worldview, from ideologies to an awareness of reality, from failed solutions to the conception of previously unthinkable solutions. Despite being well-informed since childhood, it took me 70 years. Now I know what I don't know.

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Davina's avatar

I can relate to that growth of the soul and, the many disappointments when some were found wanting and money was more the ideal than the spiritual journey. Many friends departed along the way as happens when change happens that don't feel where you should follow. The hippie era came too late for me -- all that free sex would have put me off anyway - shudders - was already on my spiritual journey physically after reading everything I could find about spiritual and growth, until I found a group that fit and thst has stood me well although I have moved away from the area. My instinct has also stood me well, or as friends like to call it: going my by my gut feeling. And that is why I subscribed to Caitlin and Tim's posts, giput instinct.

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Brigitte Gabriel

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

Legend is when she went to israel, she was only spit on 5 times by jews. Thus, like officer tatum, she feels "fortunate".

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Work? I never considered it work, that was something one does to earn the money too feed and house oneself and children. You would obviously find it very hard work having no understanding to "work" from. Watching you try, now that would be hilarious

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Brigitte Gabriel

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Lebanon was the only Christian-majority nation in the Middle East.

It's where I was born.

We prided ourselves on inclusivity. Always welcoming Arab Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East.

We had the best economy despite having no natural oil. The best universities.

They called Beirut the "Paris of the Middle East" and the Mountains of Lebanon was a tourist destination.

My early childhood was idyllic, my father was a prosperous businessman in town and my mother was at home with me, an only child.

Slowly, the Arab Muslims began to become the majority in Lebanon and our rights began to wither away.

Soon, we would find ourselves unable to leave our small Christian town without fear of being stopped and killed by Arabs. In Lebanon your religion is on your government issued ID.

As the war intensified and the radical Islamists made their way south, my home was hit by an errant rocket and my life was forever changed.

We spent the next almost decade in a bomb shelter, scraping together pennies and eating dandelions and roots just to survive.

If it was not for Israel coming in and surrounding our town, I do not know If I would be here today.

Lebanon is now a country 100% controlled and run by Hezbollah. I lost my country of birth.

I thank God every single day I was able to immigrate to America and live out the dream that BILLIONS of people only dream of having.

Now here in America, my adopted country that I have come to love so much, I see the same threats and warning signs happening now that took place in Lebanon when I was a child.

This is my warning to you, America, reverse course now while you still can.

It's not too late to save our freedom and preserve it for the next generation.

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King Edward I's avatar

Would love to see her live a few years in the West Bank as a Palestinian. I'd put money on her changing her mind.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Yes, Rodolfo Marusi Guareschi, well done to Caitlin! Like you being well-informed since childhood, I am still learning.

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Klaus's avatar

What we know for sure is NEVER EVER TRUST THE CURRENT USA AND ISRAEL!

That said, whoever trusts that any Hamas member will be allowed to life on after surrendering is a fool!

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Remember when Mama Merkel spread Germany's legs wide after the pope traveled to Constantinople to pray in the direction of Mecca and they both said bring him in after appointing Earth again? Goitardian dysfunction 🤦🏾🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻

Israel: Leader of the Free World

COMMENTARY

By George Gilder

August 14, 2024

Israel: Leader of the Free WorldAP

For eight decades after the end of World War II, America’s proudest title was “Leader of the Free World.” Today, both on grounds of practical leadership and grasp of what it means to be free, we are yielding the title to Israel.

In order to remain free, we, and the world, must pass the Israel Test.

The issues in the Middle East could hardly be simpler. On one side is tyranny, dependency, and resentment; on the other is liberty and its redemptive fruits.

The essence of liberty is self-government, of which political democracy is only one component. Governing others, whether through elections or through bureaucracies, is not the point. First and foremost, liberty means governance of the self.

A self-governing people does not whine. They do not expect to be catered to like children. Unlike the so-called “Palestinians” who depend entirely on funds from Western “charities” – billions annually from the U.S. through the UN – the Israelis give back far more than they take. They assume responsibility for their own fate and flourishing. Israelis don’t complain; they fight. The very essence of Zionism is that no Jew should ever again be a pet, dependent on the forbearance of some alien elite for survival.

A second trait of self-governing naturally follows the first. Free people produce more than they consume. Creative in the image of their creator, they thrive. Even in a world of ever-increasing abundance, fueled by new technology, arbitrary misery can strike, along with plagues and lean years, tempests and earthquakes. Yet even these disasters always seem most to befall regions where liberty and thus prosperity are scarce.

Liberty invites every man to contribute to the general prosperity by work oriented to the needs of others. Tyranny wastes a people’s energy, not merely through bureaucracy and interference from without, but by envy, resentment, and violence. Blaming others for one’s plight is a signal of subservience. If Gaza is a hellhole, the refusal of self-government is what made it so.

Envy is the sin of Cain and leads naturally to murder. The question put repeatedly to a free people, ultimately their Israel Test, is between envy and admiration of excellence. Do you view the exceptional accomplishments of others as examples to admire and emulate, and new sources of opportunity? Or do you greet these achievements with envy and hatred and charge

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King Edward I's avatar

Hey shlomo

WHO are the (((ones))) that have demanded that Europe and the Anglosphere bring in countless hordes of non White migrants? It's YOUR PEOPLE shlomo.

Stop deflecting. You jews are paranoid that White gentiles are out to get you jews, so you DEMAND that Europe and the west replace White people with non White migrants. Own it shlomo. It's your people behind the agenda.

-Jew Earl Raab: "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country."

-Charles Silberman: American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief one firmly rooted in history that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. (hence the Jewish push for open borders in Europe and the Anglosphere).

-JEW Ben Wattenberg

The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental (spiritual) quality.

-Jonathan Weisman, Author and New York Times writer wrote "The Jew flourishes when borders come down, when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erect ed."

-American Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev: "The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue in U.S. society, whether domestic or foreign"...."Make no mistake about it, we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed but destroyed."

-Jewess Susan Sontag: "The white race is the cancer of human history" (note, she doesn't mean Jews here).

-Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement. He said,

Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile there. We will never forgive Europe s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

-Speaking at a Jewish Community Center s world conference in Jerusalem last week, Pinto, a Senior Fellow and a board member of the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research, described how European Jewry, remembering its own postwar refugee status, is on the forefront of welcoming the influx of largely Muslim migrants and refugees one of the greatest wagers of the coming decade. (So, if Muslim immigrants are so great, why doesn't he want them coming to israel?)

-Zoltan Radnoti, the newly elected chairman of the rabbinical board of the Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities, was then quoted as saying, I help the refugees with fear that I am helping send danger to other Jews in Europe. I know some of the refugees may have fired on our [Israeli] soldiers. Others would have done so in a heartbeat. I know. But I am duty bound to help. (notice zoltan the "altruist" wouldn't support these migrants moving to israel).

-The JTA quoted Ron van der Wieken, chairman of the Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands, as saying that while he was aware that some Middle Eastern refugees harbor very negative feelings toward Jews Jews cannot withdraw support from those in need and fleeing serious violence, and urged Holland to devise a charitable refugee policy. (How about israel have such a charitable policy for non jewish immigrants to israel ron?)

-Jew Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Co-president of the European Greens European Free Alliance group in the European Parliament: "We, the Greens [Green Party] have to make sure to get as many immigrants as possible into Germany. If they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we reach that, we will have a share of the vote, we need to change this republic.

-Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, said the incident is "outrageous and concerning. We cannot help but remember how Jews were burnt in effigy in the 1930s and today by Hamas."

"This is just one more example showing how the hatred for migrants comes from the same place as the classic hatred for Jews," Schudrich said. (Don't jews have their own country now? If jews in poland are so scared, why don't they move to israel?)

-Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, has condemned Pegida as an immensely dangerous movement that consists of neo-Nazis, parties from the far right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia.

The Pegida-movement definitely doesn t serve the interests of Germany s Jewish community, he wrote to the Forward in an email. They want to exclude the Muslims and foreigners [from] German society. Somebody who roots against one minority is also able to root against other minorities (Again, jews support replacement level immigration in Europe because they think it is beneficial for jews. To hell with the Europeans and their needs and interests apparently).

-Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, Israel s ambassador to Germany, voiced the same fear. Their actions racially, religiously, socially, economically or otherwise justified, he told the Forward, are directed today against one group, and tomorrow against another.

Since the Second World War, Germany has been a place of democracy, pluralism and freedom, Hadas-Handelsman noted. These values should be treasured . Those who incite racism and anti-Semitism use the democratic rules of the game to hurt democracy. (In other words, germans better support open borders, otherwise, they are xenophobes, and nazis).

- We, as Jews, our voices are being heard, said Adi Liraz, who immigrated to Germany from Israel in 2003, and has been participating in protests against Pegida in Berlin. We are in a privileged place in which we can practice our religion and it is accepted by the German society. That is not the case for Muslims living here. So we want to use our privilege and the fact that we are heard to improve the situation for the Muslims.

Liraz said Pegida is using German Jews for its own racist purposes. She is part of Salaam-Schalom, a Berlin-based inter-cultural dialogue group whose members include Jews, Muslims, Christians and atheists. Salaam-Schalom is one of the groups that have helped organize anti-Pegida protests in Berlin.

As someone who lives in Germany, I don t want to live in a racist society. I want to live in a society which accepts different people from different cultural backgrounds, Liraz said. I don t think any person has the right to say you belong here or you don t belong here. (yeah, but this ethnocentric, hypocritical jewish witch has no problem with israel only taking in jewish migrants. Jewish ethnocentric double standards are literally jaw dropping in their chutzpa).

"Herald Sun

September 27, 2000

Multiculturalism not for Israel Leibler

By John Masanauskas

Melbourne Jewish leader Isi Leibler, a staunch defender of Australian multiculturalism, says the policy has no place in Israel.

This is a country which was set up and created as a Jewish country for the Jews, he told a Jerusalem newspaper.

Mr. Leibler has previously said that multiculturalism in Australia was something that we are all proud being part and parcel of.

The founder of Jetset Travel moved to Israel two years ago as chairman of the World Jewish Congress. He recently published an essay arguing that Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, was under threat in Israel by post-Zionists .

A post-Zionist is someone who actually looks positively towards the end of the Jewish people in ethnocentric terms, as a national group, and no longer sees the Jewish people as one united people, he told the Jerusalem Post.

Mr. Leibler said post-Zionists were pushing a universalist agenda in schools aimed at eliminating Jewish nationalism and creating a multicultural state.

But Mr. Leibler, 65, has the opposite view of multiculturalism in Australia.

During the Pauline Hanson debate in 1993, he warned that multiculturalism was under threat by extremists.

There is a need to sit together and establish a way in which Australians can recapture that spirit of multiculturalism which I think we are all proud being part and parcel of, and which is really under threat, Mr. Leibler said."

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Steven Marriott's avatar

We had a chance when all the medal adorned war mongering generals were all in one room with ' the boss'. A taste of their own medicine.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

If only..

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