"There is one thing in the world more wicked than the desire to command, and that is the will to obey." William Kingdon Clifford - (1845-1879) English mathematician, philosopher
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s brains and then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead." Arundhati Roy
"American people are very much like the children of a Mafia boss who do not know what their father does for a living, and don't want to know, but then wonder why someone just threw a firebomb through the living room window." William Blum
denmia: LOL at first quote. "The will to obey"... hogwash. Sure there are some people like that. But they are lazy and IMO these slugs obey orders due to a lack of will.
The second quote misses the point. Flags are representations of an idea. The idea is usually propaganda as Caitlin has pointed out many times.
The third quote is just plain insulting to the American people. I worked for the Mafia. I knew what they were doing. No problem. They paid on time. I also knew what my father did for a living (he wasn't Mafia). It was rough, but all us kids knew what he did and Mom did to keep our family housed, healthy, and fed.
Anyone who says that there is an "American people" is a delusional liar.
hmm, desire to command !(will power!)...obey!, no education!,. The reason you go to school is to listen to the national anthem! , salute the flag! , you went true mafia education , same as killary clinton and political cabal !, only differese , you listen (too small to be baderd with!) when they found you! ...ll ww Sicilian mafia listen to ''real mafia'' (yep, they help-obey!...if not Paton is on your door steps..hehe) ) ...some people! ...by the way read History books, other than your family! ...today's world has 8 billion people! most are, see quot again! ..ll. Flags made of cloth were almost certainly[4] the invention of the ancient peoples of the Indian subcontinent or the Zhou dynasty of Ancient China. Chinese flags had iconography such as a red bird, a white tiger, or a blue dragon, and royal flags were to be treated with a level of respect similar to that given to the ruler. Indian flags were often triangular and decorated with attachments such as a yak's tail and the state umbrella. [further explanation needed] Silk flags either spread to the Near East from China or it was just the silk itself, later fashioned by people who had independently conceptualized a rectangular cloth attached to a pole.[9] Flags were probably transmitted to Europe via the Muslim world, where plain colored flags were used due to Islamic proscriptions. They are often mentioned in the early history of Islam and may have been copied from India.[4]
In Europe, during the High Middle Ages, flags came to be used primarily as a heraldic device in battle, allowing easier identification of a knight over only the heraldic icon painted on the shield. Already during the high medieval period, and increasingly during the Late Middle Ages, city states and communes such as those of the Old Swiss Confederacy also began to use flags as field signs. Regimental flags for individual units became commonplace during the Early Modern period. III. ''education in Ameriica'', per GEORGE CARLIN!..... Richard Leonard Kuklinski (/kʊˈklɪnski/; April 11, 1935 – March 5, 2006), also known as "The Iceman", was an American criminal and convicted murderer. Kuklinski was engaged in criminal activities for most of his adult life; he ran a burglary ring and distributed pirated pornography. He committed at least five murders between 1980 and 1984. Prosecutors described him as killing for profit.[2] Kuklinski lived with his wife and children in the New Jersey suburb of Dumont. They knew him as a loving father and husband, although one who also had a violent temper. They stated that they were unaware of his crimes. He was given the moniker Iceman by authorities after they discovered that he had frozen the body of one of his victims in an attempt to disguise the time of death.[1][3]nice ''well known'' family, # you indentify yourself!, by the way he was paid on time too!!.... see other ''working beauty's''> A study by the Australian Institute of Criminology of 162 contract murders and attempted contract murders in Australia between 1989 and 2002 indicated that the most common reason for murder-for-hire was insurance policy payouts. The study also found that payments varied from $5,000 to $30,000 per killing, with an average of $15,000, and that the most commonly used weapons were firearms. Contract killings accounted for 2% of murders in Australia during that time period.[8] Contract killings generally make up a small percentage of murders. For example, they accounted for about 5% of all murders in Scotland from 1993 to 2002.[9]...it is not me or QUOTE!
G. CARLIN WAS, IS AND IT WILL BE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT ''EDUCATION IN AMERICA!''.. +GOOD TO PUT 2 THINGS TOGETHER , ATTENTION SPAN 20 SEC. FOOTBALL AND A BEER! ...
This was all scripted, Mossad is puppeteering both sides, per usual, and we're so far into this clown world that we cannot even catch a bus back to any sense of normality. Case in point, Netanyahu isn't even bothering to pretend that he is surprised or angry at this turn of events. In fact, he's smiling at the thought of the invasion:
But even taking the fact that this invasion is a charade into account: when you take everything from a people and leave them with nothing to lose, no one should be surprised when they react as if they have nothing to lose.
Not "allegedly"; he never said it. That's a quote from a neo-Nazi named Kevin Strom designed to imply that Jews rule the world, and it's idiotic. I take WAY more flak criticizing US foreign policy on Russia and China than I do for criticizing Israel. It's not even close. Keep that skinhead bullshit out of my comments.
I have been saying this as well, the entire thing was planned, it wouldn't surprise me if mercenaries were brought in to instigate the attack. After it started Hamas and Palestinians would join in, they know full well when war starts there is no discussion with Israel.
I suspect US involvement as well as they get justification for a war against Iran which the US war machine has wanted for decades.
The conspiracy theory is: CIA and Mossad make a plan, the CIA redeploys ISIS mercs from Syria to gaza to act as Hamas soldiers. Once they breach the border and attack civilians Israel has justification for scorched earth in gaza and the US has justification for a war with Iran which is ultimately another front in the war on Russia.
Excellent article. The reason Israel ignored all the warnings provided stems from the simple fact that it wants complete what it started with its theft of all Palestine from the Palestinian people. This started in 1947/1948, with the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes in the Nakba. Furthermore, Israel seeks to complete its genocidal policy against Palestinians. There, hence the statements of "Israel's 9/11."
Everyone forgets that Israel was created to assuage European - Western "guilt" for the Genocidal Policies conducted by the Nazis (with Western Allied assistance - silence) against Jews in Europe. They have sought to seek "redemption" for the their own complacency by now allowing the genocide against the Palestinian people.
There are too many who view Palestinians as "sub human"... This had been the mentality of numerous genocides around the world since 1945... Pakistan did the same in then East Pakistan - present Bangladesh in 1971, murdering over 3 million people in Bangladesh in 9 months, and raping over 200,000 women in the same time period. The same with the Western sponsored genocides in Africa, Central and South America, and in Asia. One only has to read the book "The Jakarta Method" to note that the USA helped the dictator of Indonesia murder over 1 million people...
The point being that the United States of America and its Western Allies will stand by and cheer as Israel murders more Palestinians who only want freedom from oppression and genocide being doled out by Israel.
the unfortunate thing is that it can be resurrected or created afresh for a new victim people in little time, as we see from the way US leaders gets at least half the population to hate Iran, no Iraq, no wait it's Russia. Or China? I'm responding to your word "remain" which implies that there is progress, albeit too slow.
This is probably true, but the indigenous peoples of the Americas were not enemies, at least not at the beginning of the takeover. It benefited the colonization cause to declare the people that were already here as "sub human". They thought it made their takeover seem warranted.
There were certainly efforts by media and government to cast the indigenous peoples of America as ignorant savages that didn't deserve the lands they lived on.
I wonder if the Israelis today would like to see their leaders calling Palestinians Untermensch !
Jeano: Oh, yeah, like the English Protestants (Oliver Cromwell) didn't think the Irish Catholics were subhuman. Cromwell killed half the Irish Catholic population and sent 50,000 Irish to the North American colonies as slaves.
But, yeah, sure, it was all a Catholic Church thing.
He also promised awhile back that he was leaving—like Cartman:
“Screw you guys, I’m going home!” But he’s baaaack! Also, he knows I think he’s an idiot and once he got all butthurt and said he’d never bother me again. But he’s baaack! Prob’ly too much weed—he can’t remember what he said yesterday.
Susan: Yesterday (Oct. 9th) is a holiday for banks, Post Office, and government workers. It used to be called "Columbus Day". Now it is called Indigenous People's Day.
That is crazy. American Indians like to be called American Indians. They aren't "indigenous". Hell, I'm indigenous. I was born in the USA.
If ypou think Native Americans want to be called Indians and not Indigenous, you must not know a single one. You are obviously not indigenous to much of anywhere.
Mary Wildfire: Then why did Russel Means call his organization the American Indian Movement? Means was always proud of being an American Indian. He HATED being called a Native American.
"Indigenous" is just more 1984 language desecration.
because that was half a century ago, before they got tired of being associated with a nation on the other side of the world. I have contacts with one of the best environmental groups in the US today, the Indigenous Environmental Network, One of the things they talk about is Indigenous Environmental Knowledge. They never use the word "Indian." It's a stupid word to use, because there ARE Indians, from India, and why should we have to pause to distinguish what we mean? I think also Native Americans are making common cause with other indigenous peoples. like those in Canada where they're often referred to an First Nations, or in Australia, New Zealand, the peoples of northern Scandinavia, etc.
Mary Wildfire: Good grief! The sheer pretentiousness of using words like "indigenous" is so top down. The word "Indian" in North America's case comes from "una geste in Dios". This means "a people in God". That is what Christopher Columbus called the natives he met in the Caribbean. People in Spain shortened that to "Indian". It had nothing to do with India.
India comes from corruptions of the word "Sindhu" which became "Hindu" and "Indus".
No one I know from India, and I've known several, call themselves "Indians". They call their country India, but for themselves they usually say they are from a certain state in India and their religion.
"Indigenous" is hard to say, spell, and sounds like a word invented by left-wing college professors.
I have never hear/read such lies as the defenders of Israel now present as fact. It is made to seem that tiny Gaza, the open air prison in which the occupants cannot come and go freely, have never been in control of water or electricity needs, and now are under a siege where these and even food are cut off entirely, are marginalizing Israeli lives and pose an existential risk to them: up is down and black is white.
The NRM should be opposed informally, that is through informal sanctions, moral disapproval, non-funding etc, but so should Israel with its 2-tier system of Jewish privilege over non-Jews within Israel, along with automatic citizenship of all Jews around the world at the expense of Palestinians and Muslim countries around Israel that have been included in the idea of the Yinon Greater Israel Plan. But that fair-play thing is called anti-Semitism, the term a weapon used against those who don't approve of Zionist views and actions everywhere.
The same could be said of many living here in the UK. The problem is that they are too lazy to look any further than the headline - the entire mainstream media are in lockstep as is the government - no one is allowed to question anything - if they do then they will either get red-baited or called an anti semite. It’s a repeat of what was emerging a hundred years ago - the only difference being that this time around it is the USA and the UK and Canada that are fuelling this progressive fascism. Hence their support for Israel and the regime of Netanyahu and his coterie of thugs. There will be some war hawks in Washington who are pushing for a hot war with Iran, using Israel as a proxy. The arms industries have made long term plans which are dependent on maintaining a state of permanent war. This is the business model for the USA. Warfare is the dominant industrial project in the USA. It spends more on its military industrial complex than the rest of the countries of the world combined. However, if it thinks it can manage three wars simultaneously - with Russia, China and Iran, then it will be so overstretched that it will collapse. These are the last thrashings of an Empire in its death throes. Let us pray that it won’t take the rest of us down with it.
Fascism was born in Italy and found expression in the atrocities committed during the Third Reich. Russia has never been forgiven for defeating it. This coalition of 'pro-Zionist liberal monster-nations' constitutes a Fourth Reich, which is a progressive movement of World Fascism which is normalising depravity, demoralisation and dissolution. Just as those who have engineered the Ukraine war, with their intent to destroy the Russian Federation, have set their sights on China, one could view the war being waged upon the Palestinian nation as an expedient towards waging a further war against Iran, with the Evangelical Christian Fascists determined to destroy the Caliphate. As the Zionist Western Empire, now in its death throes, enters yet another fit of rage, there appears to be no limit to the excess of cruelty it will exact upon others, who are being annihilated through genocide and ethnic cleansing, all in the cause of promoting an 'international rules based order' which has no rules or principles , nor is 'international' in any sense of the word. It is nothing more than a charter for an unscrupulous cabal of liars, hypocrites, cheats, thieves, sociopaths and perverts to freely engage in their depraved fantasises with impunity. Those who are awake to this great evil will build their solidarity in resisting it. Those who are asleep to it will be destroyed by their own apathy and acquiescence.
"should have never been ALLOWED" what does that mean? Who 'should' make that determination? Shouldn't the Ottoman Turks have been pushed out after losing in WWI, just as they got the area 500 years earlier?
How many women, children, and civilians SHOULD be ALLOWED to be raped, tortured, kidnapped, and murdered? What is the O/U here? Are we talking 1,000s, 100s of 1,000s, or how about a complete genocide - what should be ALLOWED, here?
Please compare/contrast that to your description of the 'diabolical project' that was the creating of israel.
I don't have a horse in this race, in fact I'm of the mind that neither the israelis nor the 'palestinians' should ever be allowed within 500 miles of gaza. But I really need to understand the propaganda that is "raping, torturing, murdering, and kidnapping innocent children, women, and civilians is justified."
Israel made it happen and I think there were other intelligence agencies involved besides Mossad. My conspiracy theory is that ISIS mercenaries were redeployed from Syria to Gaza to start the ball rolling. Once the fence was breached and Israelis were dead their job was done.
Omygod! The “building my house on top of the people who won’t move” paragraph is so good it should be compulsory at every United Nations meeting. Hand on heart—“I have a right to defend my house” Auchtung! Bril!!!!
Israel is disgusting, mentally unbalanced. What does that make Biden/ US with their support? STOP THIS MADNESS NOW! I don’t want another child terrorized or dead, or anyone else!
People are nice mostly. Please do not forget that the people in Israel of been protesting against Netanyahu for a long time. It's leaders and Orthodox Jews who are the culprits.
Yep, the Ultra-Orthodox ppl in particular cause, what I would say, a rather disproportionate amount (compared to their size) of the trouble. I think Netanyahu is as political animal-like as they come, with no real slant towards religion. I mean people thought the late Ariel Sharon was an unflinching hard-core conservative/settler-friendly politician, but almost nobody remembers him, in the capacity of Defense Minister, overseeing the forced eviction of Israeli settlers and the demolishing of their homes and villages in the Sinai without any compunction in the wake of the signing of the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Politicians seem to be the same everywhere...
How ironic. The Israeli Defense Minister saying Palestinians are human animals. It's what Hitler said about the Jews when he talked about the final solution to the Jewish problem. This is why I refer to Zionists as Zio-Nazis.
Longtrail: We are all human animals. If you put an Israeli and a Palestinian next to each other, both naked, I don't think you could tell the difference between them.
When emotions are running high, the brain shrinks a little and people say things without thinking clearly. After witnessing on video what those people did to all those Israeli women and children, while dancing and cheering about it, I cannot blame the man. Anger is a very, very strong emotion.
Just now the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. I called it right from the start when I said this is all about flagging support for Ukraine money.
Biden administration is tying Israel funding to Ukraine funding.
Now they can take anyone who opposes continued funding for Ukraine and call them anti-semitic. They may even censure those congressional reps if they don't get in line.
It's certainly possible, but given what we know about IDF and Mossad I think that is highly unlikely.
Initial reports seem to more indicate another honeypot operation similar to where our fighter jets were on 9/11-- nowhere to be found gallivanting in exercises hundreds of miles away in the Atlantic.
Open border checkpoints, no military response for 6 hours while the attack raged on. This is right out of the playbook where the government will gladly sacrifice numbers of its own citizens to insure that they can generate enough of an emotional response to then impose a nut-crushing military answer without prejudice - a final solution to their problem and justification for any future measures, no matter how extreme.
Put Iran right back into their crosshairs and bring that big, beautiful new U.S. nuclear-weaponized Gerald R. Ford Destroyer into the area. A win-win for Israel and U.S. security state. We've been looking for a reason to deploy her and couldn't without proper justification since it would likely trigger Russia if we sent it anywhere near Ukraine.
Complacency is what they want everyone to believe. Just like 9/11 complacency led to the Patriot Act and the invasion of Iraq.
Phillip Mollica: Colonel Mcgregor said on the "Judging Freedom" YouTube Channel (Judge Napolitano) that Mossad has been deployed to Ukraine and Israel shipped most of its 155mm artillery shells to Ukraine.
Dumb.
Mcgregor brought up the Battle of the Bulge. There the US Army ignored warnings of the upcoming Nazi attack in winter.
My guess is that the Israeli government ignored the warning signs.
But you may well be right. FDR did the same thing at Pearl Harbor.
Caitlin, we join you in empathy for the Palestinian people, while feeling sad for all the bloodshed. Palestinians have a right to resist Israel's brutal occupation and oppression. They are subjected to living in a cage, in an open-air prison, of house demolitions and constant harassment under a merciless siege - two million people pushed into 140 square miles. In the West Bank settler mobs run amok evicting, burning villages, killing.
The dispossessed have the right to resist and rebel.
Collective punishment is a war crime. Israel is throttling Gaza with a blockade cutting off water, electricity and food. Can you imagine any other country doing this and getting away with it!? Instead of condemning, we have the obscenity of the US/EU/Nato, painting their iconic buildings with the Israeli flag. Israel is responsible but those who are its enablers are equally culpable.
Well excuse me Israel. I thought there already WAS a total siege of Gaza. After all they're blockaded by land on both side and by sea, by Israel and they've been short of food, water, fuel, medical supplies etc for years.
Courtesy of Gods' chosen people. Maybe that's why so many people have chosen another God or preferably, none at all.
"A nation that cannot exist without nonstop war is not a nation at all — it’s an ongoing military operation."
Yep. How else would you give the military-industrial complex enough business, right? Endless wars R us!
"A nation that can’t exist without nonstop war is like a house that can’t stand without nonstop construction."
You should check out the Winchester Mystery House... Its owner couldn't stop building onto it, because she was afraid of the ghosts of all the people killed with the Winchester rifles made by her late husband's firearms company. The US is the same... It can't stop warring because the ghosts will come back to haunt us, so we must keep building more hate and division and keep building and building...
"There is one thing in the world more wicked than the desire to command, and that is the will to obey." William Kingdon Clifford - (1845-1879) English mathematician, philosopher
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s brains and then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead." Arundhati Roy
"American people are very much like the children of a Mafia boss who do not know what their father does for a living, and don't want to know, but then wonder why someone just threw a firebomb through the living room window." William Blum
These are great!
They're all good. They go straight to the pool room.
Gangsta comment.
denmia: LOL at first quote. "The will to obey"... hogwash. Sure there are some people like that. But they are lazy and IMO these slugs obey orders due to a lack of will.
The second quote misses the point. Flags are representations of an idea. The idea is usually propaganda as Caitlin has pointed out many times.
The third quote is just plain insulting to the American people. I worked for the Mafia. I knew what they were doing. No problem. They paid on time. I also knew what my father did for a living (he wasn't Mafia). It was rough, but all us kids knew what he did and Mom did to keep our family housed, healthy, and fed.
Anyone who says that there is an "American people" is a delusional liar.
hmm, desire to command !(will power!)...obey!, no education!,. The reason you go to school is to listen to the national anthem! , salute the flag! , you went true mafia education , same as killary clinton and political cabal !, only differese , you listen (too small to be baderd with!) when they found you! ...ll ww Sicilian mafia listen to ''real mafia'' (yep, they help-obey!...if not Paton is on your door steps..hehe) ) ...some people! ...by the way read History books, other than your family! ...today's world has 8 billion people! most are, see quot again! ..ll. Flags made of cloth were almost certainly[4] the invention of the ancient peoples of the Indian subcontinent or the Zhou dynasty of Ancient China. Chinese flags had iconography such as a red bird, a white tiger, or a blue dragon, and royal flags were to be treated with a level of respect similar to that given to the ruler. Indian flags were often triangular and decorated with attachments such as a yak's tail and the state umbrella. [further explanation needed] Silk flags either spread to the Near East from China or it was just the silk itself, later fashioned by people who had independently conceptualized a rectangular cloth attached to a pole.[9] Flags were probably transmitted to Europe via the Muslim world, where plain colored flags were used due to Islamic proscriptions. They are often mentioned in the early history of Islam and may have been copied from India.[4]
In Europe, during the High Middle Ages, flags came to be used primarily as a heraldic device in battle, allowing easier identification of a knight over only the heraldic icon painted on the shield. Already during the high medieval period, and increasingly during the Late Middle Ages, city states and communes such as those of the Old Swiss Confederacy also began to use flags as field signs. Regimental flags for individual units became commonplace during the Early Modern period. III. ''education in Ameriica'', per GEORGE CARLIN!..... Richard Leonard Kuklinski (/kʊˈklɪnski/; April 11, 1935 – March 5, 2006), also known as "The Iceman", was an American criminal and convicted murderer. Kuklinski was engaged in criminal activities for most of his adult life; he ran a burglary ring and distributed pirated pornography. He committed at least five murders between 1980 and 1984. Prosecutors described him as killing for profit.[2] Kuklinski lived with his wife and children in the New Jersey suburb of Dumont. They knew him as a loving father and husband, although one who also had a violent temper. They stated that they were unaware of his crimes. He was given the moniker Iceman by authorities after they discovered that he had frozen the body of one of his victims in an attempt to disguise the time of death.[1][3]nice ''well known'' family, # you indentify yourself!, by the way he was paid on time too!!.... see other ''working beauty's''> A study by the Australian Institute of Criminology of 162 contract murders and attempted contract murders in Australia between 1989 and 2002 indicated that the most common reason for murder-for-hire was insurance policy payouts. The study also found that payments varied from $5,000 to $30,000 per killing, with an average of $15,000, and that the most commonly used weapons were firearms. Contract killings accounted for 2% of murders in Australia during that time period.[8] Contract killings generally make up a small percentage of murders. For example, they accounted for about 5% of all murders in Scotland from 1993 to 2002.[9]...it is not me or QUOTE!
denmia: Long comments are boring. I'm not here for history lessons.
G. CARLIN WAS, IS AND IT WILL BE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT ''EDUCATION IN AMERICA!''.. +GOOD TO PUT 2 THINGS TOGETHER , ATTENTION SPAN 20 SEC. FOOTBALL AND A BEER! ...
dementia: This is a comment section, not a lecture hall.
Says you.
Who made you hall monitor?
Timmy, You sound very ignorant.
What are you here for?
To criticize others?
... hmm Amerigo Vespucci was VAGABOND!! ... you ok here? ...
dementia: What the hell are you talking about?
don't read dots!
dementia: don't write bots!
hmm, keep swimming , one day you may(doubt?) hit the land...heee
William Blum.
https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II-Updated/dp/1567512526/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
This was all scripted, Mossad is puppeteering both sides, per usual, and we're so far into this clown world that we cannot even catch a bus back to any sense of normality. Case in point, Netanyahu isn't even bothering to pretend that he is surprised or angry at this turn of events. In fact, he's smiling at the thought of the invasion:
Here is a body language expert analyzing Netanyatu's proclamation of war against Hamas: https://bitchute.com/video/pYPabQBIedtu [7:03mins]
But even taking the fact that this invasion is a charade into account: when you take everything from a people and leave them with nothing to lose, no one should be surprised when they react as if they have nothing to lose.
"If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize.”
― Voltaire (Allegedly)
"The Arabs will be slaves", Israeli school curriculum: https://tritorch.com/degradation/IsraeliSchoolCurriculum.mp4 [1:09mins]
Not "allegedly"; he never said it. That's a quote from a neo-Nazi named Kevin Strom designed to imply that Jews rule the world, and it's idiotic. I take WAY more flak criticizing US foreign policy on Russia and China than I do for criticizing Israel. It's not even close. Keep that skinhead bullshit out of my comments.
Caitlin - I wish you would denounce the climate deniers that post comments here with similar venom. Bravo!
Yes. The globalist conspiracy of Jews is not being criticised nor censored, rather it's being pushed.
I have been saying this as well, the entire thing was planned, it wouldn't surprise me if mercenaries were brought in to instigate the attack. After it started Hamas and Palestinians would join in, they know full well when war starts there is no discussion with Israel.
I suspect US involvement as well as they get justification for a war against Iran which the US war machine has wanted for decades.
The conspiracy theory is: CIA and Mossad make a plan, the CIA redeploys ISIS mercs from Syria to gaza to act as Hamas soldiers. Once they breach the border and attack civilians Israel has justification for scorched earth in gaza and the US has justification for a war with Iran which is ultimately another front in the war on Russia.
Excellent article. The reason Israel ignored all the warnings provided stems from the simple fact that it wants complete what it started with its theft of all Palestine from the Palestinian people. This started in 1947/1948, with the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes in the Nakba. Furthermore, Israel seeks to complete its genocidal policy against Palestinians. There, hence the statements of "Israel's 9/11."
Everyone forgets that Israel was created to assuage European - Western "guilt" for the Genocidal Policies conducted by the Nazis (with Western Allied assistance - silence) against Jews in Europe. They have sought to seek "redemption" for the their own complacency by now allowing the genocide against the Palestinian people.
There are too many who view Palestinians as "sub human"... This had been the mentality of numerous genocides around the world since 1945... Pakistan did the same in then East Pakistan - present Bangladesh in 1971, murdering over 3 million people in Bangladesh in 9 months, and raping over 200,000 women in the same time period. The same with the Western sponsored genocides in Africa, Central and South America, and in Asia. One only has to read the book "The Jakarta Method" to note that the USA helped the dictator of Indonesia murder over 1 million people...
The point being that the United States of America and its Western Allies will stand by and cheer as Israel murders more Palestinians who only want freedom from oppression and genocide being doled out by Israel.
european colonizers of the Americas viewed (and some today still view) indigenous people as "sub human".
Absolutely true. Thank you. I would say that such a particular viewpoint remains far more pervasive that many would believe.
I agree
the unfortunate thing is that it can be resurrected or created afresh for a new victim people in little time, as we see from the way US leaders gets at least half the population to hate Iran, no Iraq, no wait it's Russia. Or China? I'm responding to your word "remain" which implies that there is progress, albeit too slow.
Thank you. I appreciate the reminder regarding the word "remain." Perhaps "continues to be" ...
And true, the progress, if any, has been glacial...
It is a common propaganda tactic to declare the enemy as sub-human, it has happened as long as there have been wars and in every culture.
This is probably true, but the indigenous peoples of the Americas were not enemies, at least not at the beginning of the takeover. It benefited the colonization cause to declare the people that were already here as "sub human". They thought it made their takeover seem warranted.
There were certainly efforts by media and government to cast the indigenous peoples of America as ignorant savages that didn't deserve the lands they lived on.
I wonder if the Israelis today would like to see their leaders calling Palestinians Untermensch !
Hard to say “like” to this observation. But it is so true. And the primary promulgator of that view was the Catholic Church.
Jeano: Oh, yeah, like the English Protestants (Oliver Cromwell) didn't think the Irish Catholics were subhuman. Cromwell killed half the Irish Catholic population and sent 50,000 Irish to the North American colonies as slaves.
But, yeah, sure, it was all a Catholic Church thing.
Hey TT - thought you didn't want any history lessons?
He also promised awhile back that he was leaving—like Cartman:
“Screw you guys, I’m going home!” But he’s baaaack! Also, he knows I think he’s an idiot and once he got all butthurt and said he’d never bother me again. But he’s baaack! Prob’ly too much weed—he can’t remember what he said yesterday.
Jeano: I missed your pizza rolls.
bill wolfe: Lies are lies and must be pointed out and rebutted. This can be done in a paragraph or two.
Commenters on this site who write essays to make their point are ridiculous. Get your own Substack and put up your essays there.
tt
I couldn't finish your post.
It was too long.
Susan: Yesterday (Oct. 9th) is a holiday for banks, Post Office, and government workers. It used to be called "Columbus Day". Now it is called Indigenous People's Day.
That is crazy. American Indians like to be called American Indians. They aren't "indigenous". Hell, I'm indigenous. I was born in the USA.
If ypou think Native Americans want to be called Indians and not Indigenous, you must not know a single one. You are obviously not indigenous to much of anywhere.
Mary Wildfire: PS: I met many Sioux in South Dakota. They are good people.
And they greatly appreciate what you think about them
Cedric Ward; Thanks.
Mary Wildfire: Then why did Russel Means call his organization the American Indian Movement? Means was always proud of being an American Indian. He HATED being called a Native American.
"Indigenous" is just more 1984 language desecration.
because that was half a century ago, before they got tired of being associated with a nation on the other side of the world. I have contacts with one of the best environmental groups in the US today, the Indigenous Environmental Network, One of the things they talk about is Indigenous Environmental Knowledge. They never use the word "Indian." It's a stupid word to use, because there ARE Indians, from India, and why should we have to pause to distinguish what we mean? I think also Native Americans are making common cause with other indigenous peoples. like those in Canada where they're often referred to an First Nations, or in Australia, New Zealand, the peoples of northern Scandinavia, etc.
You’re kind to try to educate Timmy. But it just feeds his overweening narcissism.
Mary Wildfire: Good grief! The sheer pretentiousness of using words like "indigenous" is so top down. The word "Indian" in North America's case comes from "una geste in Dios". This means "a people in God". That is what Christopher Columbus called the natives he met in the Caribbean. People in Spain shortened that to "Indian". It had nothing to do with India.
India comes from corruptions of the word "Sindhu" which became "Hindu" and "Indus".
No one I know from India, and I've known several, call themselves "Indians". They call their country India, but for themselves they usually say they are from a certain state in India and their religion.
"Indigenous" is hard to say, spell, and sounds like a word invented by left-wing college professors.
Native Americans
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American Indians
doofus
not Timmy Taes
Cedric Ward: American Indians hate being called Native Americans. Go to the Res and ask them.
The history of Zionism (establishing an ethno-nationalist Jewish state in Palestine) goes back well before WW2.
Absolutely true. Thank you.
You can hear their genocidal intent in the language describing the Palestinians as sub-human animals.
I wonder what the jewish people would think about their leaders calling Paletinians Untermensch
I have never hear/read such lies as the defenders of Israel now present as fact. It is made to seem that tiny Gaza, the open air prison in which the occupants cannot come and go freely, have never been in control of water or electricity needs, and now are under a siege where these and even food are cut off entirely, are marginalizing Israeli lives and pose an existential risk to them: up is down and black is white.
The NRM should be opposed informally, that is through informal sanctions, moral disapproval, non-funding etc, but so should Israel with its 2-tier system of Jewish privilege over non-Jews within Israel, along with automatic citizenship of all Jews around the world at the expense of Palestinians and Muslim countries around Israel that have been included in the idea of the Yinon Greater Israel Plan. But that fair-play thing is called anti-Semitism, the term a weapon used against those who don't approve of Zionist views and actions everywhere.
This attack against Palestinians is a WAR CRIME. Period. So is the previous 75 years of apartheid and terrorist attacks against Palestinians.
"Allowed to happen?" ISRAEL MADE IT HAPPEN. ISRAEL CONTINUES TO DISGUST ME.
The State of Israel should never have been allowed to exist in the first place. From the start it was a diabolical project.
But..but.. the sky fairy said it was their land.
Yeah, and 'their people' are the 'chosen people.'
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I have no idea what that might mean, but if you'd like to punch me out that's not a very constructive contribution to the discussion.
Fist bump?
The fist bump was meant for Gregory.
it is s disgusting to see how brainwashed Americans are regarding Israel.
The same could be said of many living here in the UK. The problem is that they are too lazy to look any further than the headline - the entire mainstream media are in lockstep as is the government - no one is allowed to question anything - if they do then they will either get red-baited or called an anti semite. It’s a repeat of what was emerging a hundred years ago - the only difference being that this time around it is the USA and the UK and Canada that are fuelling this progressive fascism. Hence their support for Israel and the regime of Netanyahu and his coterie of thugs. There will be some war hawks in Washington who are pushing for a hot war with Iran, using Israel as a proxy. The arms industries have made long term plans which are dependent on maintaining a state of permanent war. This is the business model for the USA. Warfare is the dominant industrial project in the USA. It spends more on its military industrial complex than the rest of the countries of the world combined. However, if it thinks it can manage three wars simultaneously - with Russia, China and Iran, then it will be so overstretched that it will collapse. These are the last thrashings of an Empire in its death throes. Let us pray that it won’t take the rest of us down with it.
Fascism was born in Italy and found expression in the atrocities committed during the Third Reich. Russia has never been forgiven for defeating it. This coalition of 'pro-Zionist liberal monster-nations' constitutes a Fourth Reich, which is a progressive movement of World Fascism which is normalising depravity, demoralisation and dissolution. Just as those who have engineered the Ukraine war, with their intent to destroy the Russian Federation, have set their sights on China, one could view the war being waged upon the Palestinian nation as an expedient towards waging a further war against Iran, with the Evangelical Christian Fascists determined to destroy the Caliphate. As the Zionist Western Empire, now in its death throes, enters yet another fit of rage, there appears to be no limit to the excess of cruelty it will exact upon others, who are being annihilated through genocide and ethnic cleansing, all in the cause of promoting an 'international rules based order' which has no rules or principles , nor is 'international' in any sense of the word. It is nothing more than a charter for an unscrupulous cabal of liars, hypocrites, cheats, thieves, sociopaths and perverts to freely engage in their depraved fantasises with impunity. Those who are awake to this great evil will build their solidarity in resisting it. Those who are asleep to it will be destroyed by their own apathy and acquiescence.
I absolutely agree.
"should have never been ALLOWED" what does that mean? Who 'should' make that determination? Shouldn't the Ottoman Turks have been pushed out after losing in WWI, just as they got the area 500 years earlier?
How many women, children, and civilians SHOULD be ALLOWED to be raped, tortured, kidnapped, and murdered? What is the O/U here? Are we talking 1,000s, 100s of 1,000s, or how about a complete genocide - what should be ALLOWED, here?
Please compare/contrast that to your description of the 'diabolical project' that was the creating of israel.
I don't have a horse in this race, in fact I'm of the mind that neither the israelis nor the 'palestinians' should ever be allowed within 500 miles of gaza. But I really need to understand the propaganda that is "raping, torturing, murdering, and kidnapping innocent children, women, and civilians is justified."
Israel made it happen and I think there were other intelligence agencies involved besides Mossad. My conspiracy theory is that ISIS mercenaries were redeployed from Syria to Gaza to start the ball rolling. Once the fence was breached and Israelis were dead their job was done.
it all makes me sick
Omygod! The “building my house on top of the people who won’t move” paragraph is so good it should be compulsory at every United Nations meeting. Hand on heart—“I have a right to defend my house” Auchtung! Bril!!!!
Venture to guess, how many children have, with hand on heart, have sworn Allegiance to the flag ? It would be in the millions.
My point exactly.
Israel is disgusting, mentally unbalanced. What does that make Biden/ US with their support? STOP THIS MADNESS NOW! I don’t want another child terrorized or dead, or anyone else!
People are nice mostly. Please do not forget that the people in Israel of been protesting against Netanyahu for a long time. It's leaders and Orthodox Jews who are the culprits.
And Khazarians/Zionists, neither of which are Jewish. Plenty of real Jews don't like Zionism and what they are doing.
Yep, the Ultra-Orthodox ppl in particular cause, what I would say, a rather disproportionate amount (compared to their size) of the trouble. I think Netanyahu is as political animal-like as they come, with no real slant towards religion. I mean people thought the late Ariel Sharon was an unflinching hard-core conservative/settler-friendly politician, but almost nobody remembers him, in the capacity of Defense Minister, overseeing the forced eviction of Israeli settlers and the demolishing of their homes and villages in the Sinai without any compunction in the wake of the signing of the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Politicians seem to be the same everywhere...
JennyStokes: I agree. IMO both Israelis and Palestinians are now "Indigenous People" of the area. They've been there for generations.
The radical leaders of both sides in Palestine are fanning the flames for their own power.
Make peace and get along.
THE TRUE FACE OF ZIONISTS. This “9/11” has all the makings of the 9/11. The same playbook, the same players, just across the pond and a sea.
Excellent point.
How ironic. The Israeli Defense Minister saying Palestinians are human animals. It's what Hitler said about the Jews when he talked about the final solution to the Jewish problem. This is why I refer to Zionists as Zio-Nazis.
Longtrail: We are all human animals. If you put an Israeli and a Palestinian next to each other, both naked, I don't think you could tell the difference between them.
😂 I take your point but the Israeli Defense Minister used the term when he meant subhuman.
Longtrail: Which is why the Israeli Defense Minister is a dummy! If he meant subhuman say "subhuman". He's a dummy.
When emotions are running high, the brain shrinks a little and people say things without thinking clearly. After witnessing on video what those people did to all those Israeli women and children, while dancing and cheering about it, I cannot blame the man. Anger is a very, very strong emotion.
They don't see the irony in calling it 9/11, once you know what 9/11 was.
In a sense, yes it is, but not for the reasons they think or would like others to think.
Only a simp can watch the footage now and not see that the towers were imploded.
I suspect at some point in the future only a simp will believe that Israel was surprised by the attack and not somehow complicit.
Just now the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. I called it right from the start when I said this is all about flagging support for Ukraine money.
Biden administration is tying Israel funding to Ukraine funding.
Now they can take anyone who opposes continued funding for Ukraine and call them anti-semitic. They may even censure those congressional reps if they don't get in line.
God is this an ugly psyop.
Phillip Mollica: I don't think Israel was complicit in the attacks. It was complacent.
It's certainly possible, but given what we know about IDF and Mossad I think that is highly unlikely.
Initial reports seem to more indicate another honeypot operation similar to where our fighter jets were on 9/11-- nowhere to be found gallivanting in exercises hundreds of miles away in the Atlantic.
Open border checkpoints, no military response for 6 hours while the attack raged on. This is right out of the playbook where the government will gladly sacrifice numbers of its own citizens to insure that they can generate enough of an emotional response to then impose a nut-crushing military answer without prejudice - a final solution to their problem and justification for any future measures, no matter how extreme.
Put Iran right back into their crosshairs and bring that big, beautiful new U.S. nuclear-weaponized Gerald R. Ford Destroyer into the area. A win-win for Israel and U.S. security state. We've been looking for a reason to deploy her and couldn't without proper justification since it would likely trigger Russia if we sent it anywhere near Ukraine.
Complacency is what they want everyone to believe. Just like 9/11 complacency led to the Patriot Act and the invasion of Iraq.
Phillip Mollica: Colonel Mcgregor said on the "Judging Freedom" YouTube Channel (Judge Napolitano) that Mossad has been deployed to Ukraine and Israel shipped most of its 155mm artillery shells to Ukraine.
Dumb.
Mcgregor brought up the Battle of the Bulge. There the US Army ignored warnings of the upcoming Nazi attack in winter.
My guess is that the Israeli government ignored the warning signs.
But you may well be right. FDR did the same thing at Pearl Harbor.
This attack against Palestinians is a WAR CRIME. Period. So is the previous 75 years of apartheid and terrorist attacks against Palestinians.
Hamas is Zionism’s greatest creation. A brilliant whipping boy to justify colonial land theft and genocide.
Caitlin, we join you in empathy for the Palestinian people, while feeling sad for all the bloodshed. Palestinians have a right to resist Israel's brutal occupation and oppression. They are subjected to living in a cage, in an open-air prison, of house demolitions and constant harassment under a merciless siege - two million people pushed into 140 square miles. In the West Bank settler mobs run amok evicting, burning villages, killing.
The dispossessed have the right to resist and rebel.
Collective punishment is a war crime. Israel is throttling Gaza with a blockade cutting off water, electricity and food. Can you imagine any other country doing this and getting away with it!? Instead of condemning, we have the obscenity of the US/EU/Nato, painting their iconic buildings with the Israeli flag. Israel is responsible but those who are its enablers are equally culpable.
Well excuse me Israel. I thought there already WAS a total siege of Gaza. After all they're blockaded by land on both side and by sea, by Israel and they've been short of food, water, fuel, medical supplies etc for years.
Courtesy of Gods' chosen people. Maybe that's why so many people have chosen another God or preferably, none at all.
"A nation that cannot exist without nonstop war is not a nation at all — it’s an ongoing military operation."
Yep. How else would you give the military-industrial complex enough business, right? Endless wars R us!
"A nation that can’t exist without nonstop war is like a house that can’t stand without nonstop construction."
You should check out the Winchester Mystery House... Its owner couldn't stop building onto it, because she was afraid of the ghosts of all the people killed with the Winchester rifles made by her late husband's firearms company. The US is the same... It can't stop warring because the ghosts will come back to haunt us, so we must keep building more hate and division and keep building and building...
TRC: I remember the Winchester house. The owner was insane. Winchesters probably killed more bears, coyotes, wolves, and game animals than humans.