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Feral Finster's avatar

And the shitlibs pile on the excuses, just as the Trump Cult does for their hero.

When writing a story, you have to make bad things happen to the hero, as that is how the hero changes, that is how we see who the hero really is.

This crisis is similarly instructive. We see who Harris really is, and damn, but it is ugly.

Marcus Judd's avatar

It's because shitlibs/neoliberals & neoconservatives/Trump cultists have let the religious, statism cult blind them & their critical thinking skills.

JennyStokes's avatar

Correct.

IF the US comes out of this alive you are looking at a Religious Facist country.

I read comments by so many people and there are so many 'God botherers' in the USA

Vin LoPresti's avatar

I really like how Caitlin's painting somehow captures the hidden depth of her sideshow grotesquerie.

gypsy33's avatar

Another example of Caitlin’s over-the-top talents.

KHGUAN's avatar

Shitlibs & MAGA Cult; two sides of the same blood-stained coin that is the American Empire!

Raymond Kalberg's avatar

Really put her foot in her mouth this time. Natural born zionist like her mentor.

Kojo's avatar

She is married to a zionist. Her Mossad "handler" I guess....

JennyStokes's avatar

Really. Let's have a link.

As the despicable Circus gathers speed we expect people like you Kojo to have their last gasp.

David's avatar

Her foot is ALWAYS in her (toothy) mouth!

SW's avatar

I guess the Palestians don’t get to decide what to do with their bodies, not even the dead ones. I saw a clip with John Mersheimer who had just returned from China and, according to him, the non Western world is horrified and plainly sees who’s responsible for the genocide. All the countries that are trying to pretend it’s not as terrible as it seems have lost credibility and it won’t be coming back.

Some prominent writers I follow have been silent on Gaza. I guess they’re hoping to never have to take a stand and upset their Zionist buddies. It’s easier to see what people really stand for when the chips are down.

Rukshana Afia's avatar

But it seems that anyone near me 'stands' only for Israel . Any other planets available ?

JennyStokes's avatar

Idiot. NO planets are available to start more wars.

Rukshana Afia's avatar

Did I say I wanted to start a war ? I want to be living somewhere where existing does not mean I have to support genocide . Oh how wrong my mother turned out to be about England !

JennyStokes's avatar

IF people start living on new planets.....there would eventually be war!

Rukshana Afia's avatar

Thinking about it seems to take me into the realm of theological sci-fi speculation - I don't want to argue in such a minefield ! As a sci-fi fan I note there has been speculation aplenty about this , largely based on the question whether warfare , aggression etc is innate to humans or depends on multiple factors inc. intelligence , culture , mythology , evolution.....

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Rukshana Afia

I would assume from being a human being myself Is all those multiple factors you specify are a big part of us. Unfortunately some dingbats in power crazed couckoo land only want power and money, they cannot see anything else. They are human beings with sociopathic tendencies.

Power is the biggest force I think.

Oscar Alx's avatar

Yes, and there was the ASEAN meeting where they also were taken aback by what America and Friends are pulling off. Indonesia and Russia even arranged, quite spontaneously it seems, some joint naval exercise off Surabaya.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/world/2024/10/20/russia-indonesia-to-hold-joint-navy-drills-in-november-tass-says.html

JennyStokes's avatar

Don't mess with Indonesia.

Rukshana Afia's avatar

My maternal grandma was Indonesian . My mother told me where the expression 'running amok' came from !

JennyStokes's avatar

Ha. Yes this is what I meant.

Huge population.....loved it there.

JennyStokes's avatar

BEWARE Australia.

Indonesia is on your doorstep.

Don't mess with Indonesia.

Contrarian 33's avatar

Indonesia wound't dare to upset Australia, surely. We are under the guidance, oops, control of the USA. That should mean friends, but as Kissinger said "America has no permanent friends or enemies."

He forgot Israel.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Which one is Israel? And is it solely one, rather than both? How many American pagers will explode the day the weapons cease to flow?

andy tonti's avatar

It takes deep soul searching and heartfelt commitment to formidably oppose the tyranny that now exists .

Oregonian's avatar

American Empire vs American Nation. The US as a notional entity is the single best option for reigning in the Global American Empire. That is why the US population is propagandized, censured, subject to divide-and-rule, locked into debt, flooded with drugs, kept on the hamster wheel of consumption and pumped full of fear and anxiety. The US population could shut down the empire in months.

Edward Bernaysauce's avatar

in 15 minutes I dare say...

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Benj's avatar

Collectively we've been vaccinated, fluoridated, and otherwise sedated by bread and circus. We don't know how to 1776 anymore.

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

1776 wasn’t that awesome. It was a bunch of genocidal, religious cultists doing that in 1776, and nothing has changed.

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dacoelec's avatar

I came to the same conclusion about a year ago.

andy tonti's avatar

An issue that has to be faced is the vast economic sacrifice the public must consider if they can tolerate a civil disorder and rebellion! Think about it!!

JennyStokes's avatar

We who are 'out' of this American circus don't care.

Duane McPherson's avatar

But you should care, because there is no getting away from it. Ask the people who moved to the Falkland Islands to live with sheep, thinking they could get away from it all.

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

People that can’t make that sacrifice, can go to hell.

JennyStokes's avatar

It's coming for the USA

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Duane McPherson's avatar

And how is burning it all down any different from kicking the can down the road? I say kick the can and let them burn it down, if that's what they want.

Your attitude seems to be, "We have to destroy the village in order to save it."

Well that was popular during the Vietnam War (in the Pentagon) but I'd like to believe that such hypocritical idiocy had been left in the dustbin, along with the idiots who promoted it.

But if you really want to burn it all down, the honest thing to do is to start with your own self. Set an example for the rest of us and if we like it then we'll follow suit. And if not you'll still go out in blazing glory.

barbara maxwell's avatar

Sadly agree. But this is a whole new level. With someone at the helm who is so unconcerned with genocide, torture and cruelty at the most extreme levels- how does that bode for a state of law order and fairness in that nation? It does not and cannot because that person has no concept of morality or right from wrong. With Harris, I fear that the entire country could descend into mass lawlessness and violence with totally inadequate punishments. It already got considerably worse under Biden. Harris could be the beginning of the end.

JennyStokes's avatar

BOTH parties are the same.

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andy tonti's avatar

Getting nuked would be the final solution to starting a new beginning, but I for one don’t want to anticipate that day!

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andy tonti's avatar

Unfortunately the sheeple will also suffer greatly but mass apathy and ignorance will have consequences

JennyStokes's avatar

WHY?

You did not care about voting/you did not care whether your Gvnmnt was replacing people who were elected despite the US bullies.

As long as you could "shop" you didn't care.

Look up how many people voted in the USA since Reagan. YOU call yourselves a Democracy!

Your political "circus' started after Biden was re-elected.

SO sick of this greedy nation.

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Duane McPherson's avatar

You are a troll. Please go back under your bridge.

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Duane McPherson's avatar

Yeah, right.

I know the drill: Hard times build hard people; Hard people build good times; Good times build weak people; Weak people bring bad times; Bad times mean people die and everything gets burnt down; Dead people don't build anything; When nothing gets built, plants grow up over the ruins; Ruins decay for a thousand years and nobody knows that there used to be a civilization there.

You are just ignorant and arrogant and lazy. The hard times you predict will come about because people like you strive to bring them about. If you want your friends and descendants to experience a better future, start building it now. And destruction is not constructive. There will be plenty of destruction, I have no doubt. There is no need to add to it.

andy tonti's avatar

And no less damned should we be!!

TS's avatar

There is no equivalence between unremitting murder, torture, rape, bombing, assassinations, more bombing, mass starvation, bombing hospitals, refugees, and orphanages, and the price of groceries.

That is an example of utter moral bankruptcy. It is not an example of leadership.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

Well said. I didn't say it quite as succinctly, but that's what I meant in this week's post: "The Moral IQ" https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-moral-iq

andy tonti's avatar

Her response was terrifying and wholly uncaring

Leah Mueller's avatar

I literally just had an online argument with a shitlib about this very issue. He expressed some mealy mouthed bullshit (which became condescending and strident when I pointed out his lack of humanity) about how he didn't agree with what is happening in Palestine, but we need to save our country from fascism. And that Kamala will end the genocide once she's in office but Trump won't. When I said that the genocide would continue either way, he accused me of being a paid operative. Man, I just WISH I could be paid for stating my opinions. I'd clean up!

Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

I've had similar conversations with entrenched brainwashed friends. This is neo-political tribalism of the worst kind. No critical mind, No warm empathic heart. (hardly matters what religion). Feels like there's no getting through, however much evidence! But I do hope Caitlin is right and the blaring truths coming out into the light of day are gradually waking more people up!

Leah Mueller's avatar

We need to keep speaking up and never allow our voices to be silenced.

Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Yes, I fully agree. Nothing at this stage will be gained thru silence.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Indeed more and more people are waking up to the truth of what has been going on in Palestine for more than a hundred years. I've been on this side for 65+ years. Not m/any were able to see the reality back then. Over the years, the numbers have increased, until now, there are millions. This is something I never dreamed was possible. I believe that the information dam has broken and the flood waters of truth have been set free.

Duane McPherson's avatar

Yes and that's a big thing: the Zionist occupation of Palestine began more than a century ago. First by the purchase of rented lands from the owners, followed by ejection of the renters who tilled the soil and tended the orchards (early 20th century). Then by the forceful ejection of Palestinians after WWII (the first Naqba in 1948). Followed by the gradual encroachment upon and apartheid division of Palestinian-owned land. And now the "Final Solution" removal of all non-Jewish Palestinians from 'Eretz Israel'.

I have been for a long time on the side of the Palestinians, from a simple human rights position and the mid-1960s (around 5th grade). In the past year I have learned so much more about the situation! It really is a revelatory moment.

Sam's avatar

What? He didn’t call you a Russian asset? Or a Hamas lover?

Leah Mueller's avatar

No. But he did call me a "useful fool for MAGA" or "A MAGA pretending to be something else" (whatever THAT means).

Benj's avatar

Even the SLIGHTEST deviation from their ideological narrative and you are suspected as far right MAGA.

Leah Mueller's avatar

As if MAGAs are concerned about the carnage in Palestine. These shitlibs will contort themselves in knots just to make a point.

John Cosmo's avatar

I'm surprised he didn't call you a Russian bot. (Bots don't get paid.)

Leah Mueller's avatar

He was slightly more articulate than that. A lot of these folks are quite well educated, which proves once again that money won't buy you a soul.

gypsy33's avatar

And higher education won’t buy you common horse sense.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

In fact, there have been studies into how the "smarter" you are, the less likely you are to have a "soul" or demonstrate you have a conscience/have empathy for others.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

I wouldn't trust any such studies.

(1) Correlations are not necessarily causations.

(2) I wouldn't trust such correlations unless the "studies" can be replicated. You might have heard of the "replicability crisis" in academia and the behavioral sciences - even with award winning researchers.

(3) One can easily perform studies to show the opposite result - i.e. stupid/dumb people (eg. Trump, etc.) are more evil, lack empathy, and likely lack a soul - I would simply populate my samples with "certain types" of subjects that work in my favor, and then submit a paper on my theories. This is one of the biggest problems in behavioral science - inadequate randomness, selection bias, and flawed sampling procedures.

gypsy33's avatar

Chang, I WOULD trust such studies. Being uneducated is not the equivalent of “stupid”. One of the most street-smart and understanding people I’ve ever met was my former work partner, a high school dropout.

Now let’s look at my sister. She has two college degrees and could not give a flying fuck less about anyone but herself, so long as she rakes in the $$$. She also has less common sense than god gave a fly.

I have a mere high school education and am willing to debate anyone on any political subject ( and I will destroy them.)

PS My father was an immigrant with a fourth-grade education and became a successful businessman. He was also fluent in four languages.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Gypsy - studies are not based on "anecdotal evidence" (which is what you presented in your comment). There is a process/methodology under which such "behavioral science research studies" are conducted. THAT is the difference between "science" and "everything else".

This is NOT about education.

This is NOT about success.

This is NOT about money.

This is NOT about personal opinions or biases.

This is ABOUT following a "SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY" to verify hypothesis. THAT is what my comment is about.

JennyStokes's avatar

One of the things Gypsy (I agree with you) is that:

You somehow have to have a 'doctorate/Masters' to REALLY understand what is going on. BULLSHIT

I am an artist with EMPATHY for other people.

You know I don;t care about Passports/ I don't adhere to all the politics I have been subjected to in 4 countries.

I am in France because we decided to leave the US when it was certain that DIMWITTED GWB was going to get to be President.

My husband who is 1/4 German asked the Company if he could work in France. They said 'yes.'

So here we are in delusional France.

gypsy33's avatar

Correct, TRC.

The accumulation of facts has not a thing to do with the ability to empathize.

You are born empathetic, or you’re not.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

I think it's more than "nature v. nuture" (and they say in the psych field). You have to have parents/family/culture that nutures empathy and compassion. You have to be "carefully taught" to become without empathy or prejudiced against others. So, I'll say that everyone is born being capable of being empathetic, but some unfortunately never receive the nuturing they need to truly become empathetic.

JennyStokes's avatar

I agree with all that you say BUT the people I see who have the most empathy have usually had some deep trauma in their lives.

Some never get over it but the ones that do are able to empathise.

Francis/Clare's avatar

I think educated people tend to make more money and it engulfs them. They have more to personally lose in terms of finance, status and comfort. The competition pushes out the empathy. Very few St. Francis types in rich countries. It happened in the 80s, the ideals of the 60s and 70s were abandoned for the pursuit of wealth, the great evil.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Neither do true believers need to be paid, whether on the side of truth, or, unfortunately on the other side as well.

Leah Mueller's avatar

Ha! My last comment to the guy was to call him a "partisan brainwashed zombie", so this is apt.

JennyStokes's avatar

Speak up anyway...money isn't everything.

Jo Waller's avatar

We all agree whoever wins, due to Jewish lobbying power, there will still be a US backed genocide in West Asia, and we all agree it will still be wrong. However, if Trump/Musk/Kennedy win there will be even less regulation and more profits for fossil fuel and animal ag, even more pollution and warming, even less years until 1.2 billion, mostly brown and black skinned, climate refugees start migrating north and being shot at the borders, and America will be led directly into the Handmaid’s Tale. If I were a woman living there I’d want to avoid that if possible. If that makes me a shitlib, then so be it.

Leah Mueller's avatar

What makes you think those scenarios won't happen if a Democrat is president?

Jo Waller's avatar

The climate crisis will happen, which is the only thing that’s really significant, but slower I think under the Democrats. You’re right it really won’t make any difference at all. However, name calling and judging people for choosing genocide possibly with reproductive rights over genocide assuredly without them is equally pointless.

JennyStokes's avatar

JO.

I agree with you about 'climate crises'

YOU stupid people are still writing about ABORTION while the USA sends bombs to Israhell to wipe out kids/women.

Leah Mueller's avatar

Good point about the climate crisis, but since we've been fighting wars over oil (amongst other things) for quite some time, I'm not sure if a Democrat will truly slow it down or simply give lip service to slowing it down. People love their big cars, huge homes, and beef. I don't think voting blue can change that.

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

Oil companies made the most money and pumped the most oil under Biden. He did nothing of record for climate, for human rights, and for the proletariat. He has possibly been the worst president of my lifetime. Trump has a chance to surpass, but so does Kamala.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Zionism does not equal Judaism.

Jo Waller's avatar

However, the evidence in the UK strongly suggests that among the top, most influential British Jewry: Judaism does equal Zionism.

JennyStokes's avatar

JO.

Everything is now coming down to the actuality of culpable.

I am SO bored with people's comments here.

GO and VOTE Blue. It really is not important.

The USA will be crawling on their hands and knees to join BRICS

Charles A. Robinson's avatar

Nice job. Keep being frank. We humans need to keep speaking up that this genocide has to stop! Nothing else takes priority over this. Or else, you are ...... a monster.

Raymond Kalberg's avatar

Only humans can understand that

andy tonti's avatar

Speak up yes, but become activist to take down this monstrous abomination

Charles A. Robinson's avatar

Nothing takes priority over stopping this genocide. However one joins the fight. Each as each one can. Keeping your voice heard, your written word read, your ....

Diana van Eyk's avatar

And it's not just Kamala, it's other western leaders too. How do we deal with the fact that they support genocide? What do we do?

Raymond Kalberg's avatar

You could pray that Cornell West wins the election by default.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Dr. Jill Stein has a better chance of being elected. Best not to spread the love too thin.

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andy tonti's avatar

Oh yeah, and mass disobedience! Boycott taxes, disinvest, harass Congress

JennyStokes's avatar

Andy.

IF you don't get this I don't know what you will understand.

Mainstream Media (MSM) is your biggest challenge.

I have written till my fingers get tired:

PROTEST outside MSM offices: They are culpable.

andy tonti's avatar

Yes, could help. But they represent the voices of the ruling class class, oligarch, do they not

JennyStokes's avatar

Exactly the reason to protest outside their offices and work places.

Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

Harris has really revealed what a f*ing monster she is.

I proudly voted for Stein/Ware today in the state of New Mexico.

Marion Deming's avatar

Same! I cast my vote in NM on Saturday for Jill Stein.

Oscar Alx's avatar

A wasted vote - but by far not as wasted as a vote for Harris or Trump!

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Great! I mailed mine in last week to the State of Washington.

Klonda56's avatar

“….Harris continued. “They also care about our democracy and not having a president of the United States who admires dictators and is a fascist…”

So the jist here she bear hugs Netanyahu, cheers mass murder, gives Israel weapons to do it, provide him “ironclad support” at the UN and with the US military, claims credit from the US weapons industry for subsiding it……..but that wouldn’t make HER a fascist who admires fascist leaders.

This is such a half baked argument that she could only make it to idiots who can’t think for one second.

These people believe America is a nation of idiots. That’s why they do what they do.

JennyStokes's avatar

USA IS a nation of idiots!

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

They’ve been correct about the nation of idiots and I don’t see any change on the horizon.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Let's not overlook the major censorship push from the current administration.

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Klonda56's avatar

You haven’t grasped my point at all.

It’s up to the electorate to prove them wrong. Any vote for Trump or Harris is saying “I’m an idiot”.

Stephen Walker's avatar

The United States of Genocide

Genocide ’R’ Us

The Genocide World Tour

Palestine - Korea - Vietnam - Lebanon - Iraq - Somalia - Afghanistan - Iraq - Libya - Syria - Palestine

To paraphrase Gil Scott-Heron:

“The genocide will not be televised

The genocide will be live-streamed”

Marion Deming's avatar

And don’t forget the Dirty Wars in Central and South America. And of course the genocide against indigenous here in the US. We have such a long history of evil acts.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Please, not, "we." Let's not associate ourselves with the ruling class, even through language which is a powerful shaper of thought, ours and those who hear, or read our words.

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

The people keep voting for the puppets, and then allow them to do things that are against everyone’s best interests. There is definitely a we of the citizens, whether you like it or not. We built our houses on the bones of murdered American Natives, like the Israelis do to the Palestinians. Denying responsibility of the citizens isn’t constructive.

Marion Deming's avatar

I agree. I’m sick of people who say it’s awful but nothing I can do about it. I get it, sometimes it feels impossible, but damn. Go to a protest, boycott Israel, write to your representatives, don’t vote for the monsters, do anything, do everything! We, the American people, are 100% responsible for continuing to support a terrorist state.

andy tonti's avatar

I don’t believe in the history of hostile empires has there been such a pervasively evil and highly amoral collection of monsters as is the US and its minions!

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Not paraphrased, updated.

John Cosmo's avatar

Sunlight is still the best disinfectant. We need people like Caitlin to shine a light on the things that that they don't want us to see, and to also point out some of the things that other people are shining lights on.

Contrarian 33's avatar

In 1985, the U.K. backed apartheid South Africa and said the African National Congress were terrorists. Now they back apartheid Israel and say Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.

The state can be wrong.

Let someone put this to a vote at the United Nations

Jack Horner's avatar

I suggest that use of a veto automatically removes your place on the Security Council...

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Well said Contrarian 33!

Erwin Cuellar's avatar

I'd donate my "expensive" groceries over and over again to Gaza if I could

Gavin Farrell's avatar

And the really great thing is that voting for her isn't even going to lower grocery prices or bring Roe vs Wade back. She's not going to deliver on either of those.

Leah Mueller's avatar

Yep. She's conveniently leaving out the skyrocketing cost of groceries under the Biden/Harris administration. Her shitty, soul-less argument isn't even convincing.

andy tonti's avatar

My go to cliche is nothing fundamentally will change. Get it??

Gavin Farrell's avatar

That was Biden's statement to his rich elite donors. For the non-rich, non-elite, things are very much materially changing for the worse.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

"More and more people are seeing that western liberalism is just a more photogenic version of fascism."

This sentence just sums up everything I feel about Harris and company perfectly. "Abortions and groceries prices" are more important Harris thinks than saving lives in Gaza and shutting down arms sales to Izrealhell. Uh-huh. Her callous remarks make me wonder how many abortions she has had and if she even shops for her own groceries if she doesn't think genocide is that big of a deal. What a moral imbecile she is! More on the "Moral IQ" https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-moral-iq

Gareth Richmond's avatar

Between supporting a genocide in Gaza and their abortion stance democrats are leaning hard into killing babies as their electoral platform.

CrumpledForeskin's avatar

Go baabaa to the church.