I guess the Palestians don’t get to decide what to do with their bodies, not even the dead ones. I saw a clip with John Mersheimer who had just returned from China and, according to him, the non Western world is horrified and plainly sees who’s responsible for the genocide. All the countries that are trying to pretend it’s not as terrible as it seems have lost credibility and it won’t be coming back.
Some prominent writers I follow have been silent on Gaza. I guess they’re hoping to never have to take a stand and upset their Zionist buddies. It’s easier to see what people really stand for when the chips are down.
Did I say I wanted to start a war ? I want to be living somewhere where existing does not mean I have to support genocide . Oh how wrong my mother turned out to be about England !
Yes, and there was the ASEAN meeting where they also were taken aback by what America and Friends are pulling off. Indonesia and Russia even arranged, quite spontaneously it seems, some joint naval exercise off Surabaya.
Indonesia wound't dare to upset Australia, surely. We are under the guidance, oops, control of the USA. That should mean friends, but as Kissinger said "America has no permanent friends or enemies."
American Empire vs American Nation. The US as a notional entity is the single best option for reigning in the Global American Empire. That is why the US population is propagandized, censured, subject to divide-and-rule, locked into debt, flooded with drugs, kept on the hamster wheel of consumption and pumped full of fear and anxiety. The US population could shut down the empire in months.
An issue that has to be faced is the vast economic sacrifice the public must consider if they can tolerate a civil disorder and rebellion! Think about it!!
Sadly agree. But this is a whole new level. With someone at the helm who is so unconcerned with genocide, torture and cruelty at the most extreme levels- how does that bode for a state of law order and fairness in that nation? It does not and cannot because that person has no concept of morality or right from wrong. With Harris, I fear that the entire country could descend into mass lawlessness and violence with totally inadequate punishments. It already got considerably worse under Biden. Harris could be the beginning of the end.
There is no equivalence between unremitting murder, torture, rape, bombing, assassinations, more bombing, mass starvation, bombing hospitals, refugees, and orphanages, and the price of groceries.
That is an example of utter moral bankruptcy. It is not an example of leadership.
I literally just had an online argument with a shitlib about this very issue. He expressed some mealy mouthed bullshit (which became condescending and strident when I pointed out his lack of humanity) about how he didn't agree with what is happening in Palestine, but we need to save our country from fascism. And that Kamala will end the genocide once she's in office but Trump won't. When I said that the genocide would continue either way, he accused me of being a paid operative. Man, I just WISH I could be paid for stating my opinions. I'd clean up!
I've had similar conversations with entrenched brainwashed friends. This is neo-political tribalism of the worst kind. No critical mind, No warm empathic heart. (hardly matters what religion). Feels like there's no getting through, however much evidence! But I do hope Caitlin is right and the blaring truths coming out into the light of day are gradually waking more people up!
Indeed more and more people are waking up to the truth of what has been going on in Palestine for more than a hundred years. I've been on this side for 65+ years. Not m/any were able to see the reality back then. Over the years, the numbers have increased, until now, there are millions. This is something I never dreamed was possible. I believe that the information dam has broken and the flood waters of truth have been set free.
Yes and that's a big thing: the Zionist occupation of Palestine began more than a century ago. First by the purchase of rented lands from the owners, followed by ejection of the renters who tilled the soil and tended the orchards (early 20th century). Then by the forceful ejection of Palestinians after WWII (the first Naqba in 1948). Followed by the gradual encroachment upon and apartheid division of Palestinian-owned land. And now the "Final Solution" removal of all non-Jewish Palestinians from 'Eretz Israel'.
I have been for a long time on the side of the Palestinians, from a simple human rights position and the mid-1960s (around 5th grade). In the past year I have learned so much more about the situation! It really is a revelatory moment.
In fact, there have been studies into how the "smarter" you are, the less likely you are to have a "soul" or demonstrate you have a conscience/have empathy for others.
(2) I wouldn't trust such correlations unless the "studies" can be replicated. You might have heard of the "replicability crisis" in academia and the behavioral sciences - even with award winning researchers.
(3) One can easily perform studies to show the opposite result - i.e. stupid/dumb people (eg. Trump, etc.) are more evil, lack empathy, and likely lack a soul - I would simply populate my samples with "certain types" of subjects that work in my favor, and then submit a paper on my theories. This is one of the biggest problems in behavioral science - inadequate randomness, selection bias, and flawed sampling procedures.
We all agree whoever wins, due to Jewish lobbying power, there will still be a US backed genocide in West Asia, and we all agree it will still be wrong. However, if Trump/Musk/Kennedy win there will be even less regulation and more profits for fossil fuel and animal ag, even more pollution and warming, even less years until 1.2 billion, mostly brown and black skinned, climate refugees start migrating north and being shot at the borders, and America will be led directly into the Handmaid’s Tale. If I were a woman living there I’d want to avoid that if possible. If that makes me a shitlib, then so be it.
The climate crisis will happen, which is the only thing that’s really significant, but slower I think under the Democrats. You’re right it really won’t make any difference at all. However, name calling and judging people for choosing genocide possibly with reproductive rights over genocide assuredly without them is equally pointless.
Good point about the climate crisis, but since we've been fighting wars over oil (amongst other things) for quite some time, I'm not sure if a Democrat will truly slow it down or simply give lip service to slowing it down. People love their big cars, huge homes, and beef. I don't think voting blue can change that.
Oil companies made the most money and pumped the most oil under Biden. He did nothing of record for climate, for human rights, and for the proletariat. He has possibly been the worst president of my lifetime. Trump has a chance to surpass, but so does Kamala.
Nice job. Keep being frank. We humans need to keep speaking up that this genocide has to stop! Nothing else takes priority over this. Or else, you are ...... a monster.
Nothing takes priority over stopping this genocide. However one joins the fight. Each as each one can. Keeping your voice heard, your written word read, your ....
“….Harris continued. “They also care about our democracy and not having a president of the United States who admires dictators and is a fascist…”
So the jist here she bear hugs Netanyahu, cheers mass murder, gives Israel weapons to do it, provide him “ironclad support” at the UN and with the US military, claims credit from the US weapons industry for subsiding it……..but that wouldn’t make HER a fascist who admires fascist leaders.
This is such a half baked argument that she could only make it to idiots who can’t think for one second.
These people believe America is a nation of idiots. That’s why they do what they do.
And don’t forget the Dirty Wars in Central and South America. And of course the genocide against indigenous here in the US. We have such a long history of evil acts.
Please, not, "we." Let's not associate ourselves with the ruling class, even through language which is a powerful shaper of thought, ours and those who hear, or read our words.
The people keep voting for the puppets, and then allow them to do things that are against everyone’s best interests. There is definitely a we of the citizens, whether you like it or not. We built our houses on the bones of murdered American Natives, like the Israelis do to the Palestinians. Denying responsibility of the citizens isn’t constructive.
I agree. I’m sick of people who say it’s awful but nothing I can do about it. I get it, sometimes it feels impossible, but damn. Go to a protest, boycott Israel, write to your representatives, don’t vote for the monsters, do anything, do everything! We, the American people, are 100% responsible for continuing to support a terrorist state.
I don’t believe in the history of hostile empires has there been such a pervasively evil and highly amoral collection of monsters as is the US and its minions!
Sunlight is still the best disinfectant. We need people like Caitlin to shine a light on the things that that they don't want us to see, and to also point out some of the things that other people are shining lights on.
In 1985, the U.K. backed apartheid South Africa and said the African National Congress were terrorists. Now they back apartheid Israel and say Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.
The state can be wrong.
Let someone put this to a vote at the United Nations
And the really great thing is that voting for her isn't even going to lower grocery prices or bring Roe vs Wade back. She's not going to deliver on either of those.
Yep. She's conveniently leaving out the skyrocketing cost of groceries under the Biden/Harris administration. Her shitty, soul-less argument isn't even convincing.
"More and more people are seeing that western liberalism is just a more photogenic version of fascism."
This sentence just sums up everything I feel about Harris and company perfectly. "Abortions and groceries prices" are more important Harris thinks than saving lives in Gaza and shutting down arms sales to Izrealhell. Uh-huh. Her callous remarks make me wonder how many abortions she has had and if she even shops for her own groceries if she doesn't think genocide is that big of a deal. What a moral imbecile she is! More on the "Moral IQ" https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-moral-iq
And the shitlibs pile on the excuses, just as the Trump Cult does for their hero.
When writing a story, you have to make bad things happen to the hero, as that is how the hero changes, that is how we see who the hero really is.
This crisis is similarly instructive. We see who Harris really is, and damn, but it is ugly.
It's because shitlibs/neoliberals & neoconservatives/Trump cultists have let the religious, statism cult blind them & their critical thinking skills.
Correct.
IF the US comes out of this alive you are looking at a Religious Facist country.
I read comments by so many people and there are so many 'God botherers' in the USA
I really like how Caitlin's painting somehow captures the hidden depth of her sideshow grotesquerie.
Another example of Caitlin’s over-the-top talents.
Shitlibs & MAGA Cult; two sides of the same blood-stained coin that is the American Empire!
Really put her foot in her mouth this time. Natural born zionist like her mentor.
She is married to a zionist. Her Mossad "handler" I guess....
Really. Let's have a link.
As the despicable Circus gathers speed we expect people like you Kojo to have their last gasp.
This is Kamala’s husband
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Emhoff
Her foot is ALWAYS in her (toothy) mouth!
Ugly, INDEED!
I guess the Palestians don’t get to decide what to do with their bodies, not even the dead ones. I saw a clip with John Mersheimer who had just returned from China and, according to him, the non Western world is horrified and plainly sees who’s responsible for the genocide. All the countries that are trying to pretend it’s not as terrible as it seems have lost credibility and it won’t be coming back.
Some prominent writers I follow have been silent on Gaza. I guess they’re hoping to never have to take a stand and upset their Zionist buddies. It’s easier to see what people really stand for when the chips are down.
But it seems that anyone near me 'stands' only for Israel . Any other planets available ?
Idiot. NO planets are available to start more wars.
Did I say I wanted to start a war ? I want to be living somewhere where existing does not mean I have to support genocide . Oh how wrong my mother turned out to be about England !
IF people start living on new planets.....there would eventually be war!
Yes, and there was the ASEAN meeting where they also were taken aback by what America and Friends are pulling off. Indonesia and Russia even arranged, quite spontaneously it seems, some joint naval exercise off Surabaya.
https://www.thejakartapost.com/world/2024/10/20/russia-indonesia-to-hold-joint-navy-drills-in-november-tass-says.html
Don't mess with Indonesia.
My maternal grandma was Indonesian . My mother told me where the expression 'running amok' came from !
Ha. Yes this is what I meant.
Huge population.....loved it there.
BEWARE Australia.
Indonesia is on your doorstep.
Don't mess with Indonesia.
Indonesia wound't dare to upset Australia, surely. We are under the guidance, oops, control of the USA. That should mean friends, but as Kissinger said "America has no permanent friends or enemies."
He forgot Israel.
Which one is Israel? And is it solely one, rather than both? How many American pagers will explode the day the weapons cease to flow?
It takes deep soul searching and heartfelt commitment to formidably oppose the tyranny that now exists .
American Empire vs American Nation. The US as a notional entity is the single best option for reigning in the Global American Empire. That is why the US population is propagandized, censured, subject to divide-and-rule, locked into debt, flooded with drugs, kept on the hamster wheel of consumption and pumped full of fear and anxiety. The US population could shut down the empire in months.
in 15 minutes I dare say...
Collectively we've been vaccinated, fluoridated, and otherwise sedated by bread and circus. We don't know how to 1776 anymore.
🤣🤡🤣
1776 wasn’t that awesome. It was a bunch of genocidal, religious cultists doing that in 1776, and nothing has changed.
I came to the same conclusion about a year ago.
An issue that has to be faced is the vast economic sacrifice the public must consider if they can tolerate a civil disorder and rebellion! Think about it!!
Sadly agree. But this is a whole new level. With someone at the helm who is so unconcerned with genocide, torture and cruelty at the most extreme levels- how does that bode for a state of law order and fairness in that nation? It does not and cannot because that person has no concept of morality or right from wrong. With Harris, I fear that the entire country could descend into mass lawlessness and violence with totally inadequate punishments. It already got considerably worse under Biden. Harris could be the beginning of the end.
BOTH parties are the same.
Neither will I.
Getting nuked would be the final solution to starting a new beginning, but I for one don’t want to anticipate that day!
WHY?
You did not care about voting/you did not care whether your Gvnmnt was replacing people who were elected despite the US bullies.
As long as you could "shop" you didn't care.
Look up how many people voted in the USA since Reagan. YOU call yourselves a Democracy!
Your political "circus' started after Biden was re-elected.
SO sick of this greedy nation.
You are a troll. Please go back under your bridge.
And no less damned should we be!!
There is no equivalence between unremitting murder, torture, rape, bombing, assassinations, more bombing, mass starvation, bombing hospitals, refugees, and orphanages, and the price of groceries.
That is an example of utter moral bankruptcy. It is not an example of leadership.
Well said. I didn't say it quite as succinctly, but that's what I meant in this week's post: "The Moral IQ" https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-moral-iq
Her response was terrifying and wholly uncaring
I literally just had an online argument with a shitlib about this very issue. He expressed some mealy mouthed bullshit (which became condescending and strident when I pointed out his lack of humanity) about how he didn't agree with what is happening in Palestine, but we need to save our country from fascism. And that Kamala will end the genocide once she's in office but Trump won't. When I said that the genocide would continue either way, he accused me of being a paid operative. Man, I just WISH I could be paid for stating my opinions. I'd clean up!
I've had similar conversations with entrenched brainwashed friends. This is neo-political tribalism of the worst kind. No critical mind, No warm empathic heart. (hardly matters what religion). Feels like there's no getting through, however much evidence! But I do hope Caitlin is right and the blaring truths coming out into the light of day are gradually waking more people up!
We need to keep speaking up and never allow our voices to be silenced.
Yes, I fully agree. Nothing at this stage will be gained thru silence.
Indeed more and more people are waking up to the truth of what has been going on in Palestine for more than a hundred years. I've been on this side for 65+ years. Not m/any were able to see the reality back then. Over the years, the numbers have increased, until now, there are millions. This is something I never dreamed was possible. I believe that the information dam has broken and the flood waters of truth have been set free.
Yes and that's a big thing: the Zionist occupation of Palestine began more than a century ago. First by the purchase of rented lands from the owners, followed by ejection of the renters who tilled the soil and tended the orchards (early 20th century). Then by the forceful ejection of Palestinians after WWII (the first Naqba in 1948). Followed by the gradual encroachment upon and apartheid division of Palestinian-owned land. And now the "Final Solution" removal of all non-Jewish Palestinians from 'Eretz Israel'.
I have been for a long time on the side of the Palestinians, from a simple human rights position and the mid-1960s (around 5th grade). In the past year I have learned so much more about the situation! It really is a revelatory moment.
What? He didn’t call you a Russian asset? Or a Hamas lover?
No. But he did call me a "useful fool for MAGA" or "A MAGA pretending to be something else" (whatever THAT means).
Even the SLIGHTEST deviation from their ideological narrative and you are suspected as far right MAGA.
As if MAGAs are concerned about the carnage in Palestine. These shitlibs will contort themselves in knots just to make a point.
I'm surprised he didn't call you a Russian bot. (Bots don't get paid.)
He was slightly more articulate than that. A lot of these folks are quite well educated, which proves once again that money won't buy you a soul.
And higher education won’t buy you common horse sense.
In fact, there have been studies into how the "smarter" you are, the less likely you are to have a "soul" or demonstrate you have a conscience/have empathy for others.
I wouldn't trust any such studies.
(1) Correlations are not necessarily causations.
(2) I wouldn't trust such correlations unless the "studies" can be replicated. You might have heard of the "replicability crisis" in academia and the behavioral sciences - even with award winning researchers.
(3) One can easily perform studies to show the opposite result - i.e. stupid/dumb people (eg. Trump, etc.) are more evil, lack empathy, and likely lack a soul - I would simply populate my samples with "certain types" of subjects that work in my favor, and then submit a paper on my theories. This is one of the biggest problems in behavioral science - inadequate randomness, selection bias, and flawed sampling procedures.
Correct, TRC.
The accumulation of facts has not a thing to do with the ability to empathize.
You are born empathetic, or you’re not.
I call BS on that.
Neither do true believers need to be paid, whether on the side of truth, or, unfortunately on the other side as well.
Have you encountered a brainwashed zombie? Take this easy quiz!
https://science1arts2and3politics.substack.com/p/are-you-a-brainwashed-zombie
Ha! My last comment to the guy was to call him a "partisan brainwashed zombie", so this is apt.
Speak up anyway...money isn't everything.
We all agree whoever wins, due to Jewish lobbying power, there will still be a US backed genocide in West Asia, and we all agree it will still be wrong. However, if Trump/Musk/Kennedy win there will be even less regulation and more profits for fossil fuel and animal ag, even more pollution and warming, even less years until 1.2 billion, mostly brown and black skinned, climate refugees start migrating north and being shot at the borders, and America will be led directly into the Handmaid’s Tale. If I were a woman living there I’d want to avoid that if possible. If that makes me a shitlib, then so be it.
What makes you think those scenarios won't happen if a Democrat is president?
The climate crisis will happen, which is the only thing that’s really significant, but slower I think under the Democrats. You’re right it really won’t make any difference at all. However, name calling and judging people for choosing genocide possibly with reproductive rights over genocide assuredly without them is equally pointless.
JO.
I agree with you about 'climate crises'
YOU stupid people are still writing about ABORTION while the USA sends bombs to Israhell to wipe out kids/women.
Good point about the climate crisis, but since we've been fighting wars over oil (amongst other things) for quite some time, I'm not sure if a Democrat will truly slow it down or simply give lip service to slowing it down. People love their big cars, huge homes, and beef. I don't think voting blue can change that.
Oil companies made the most money and pumped the most oil under Biden. He did nothing of record for climate, for human rights, and for the proletariat. He has possibly been the worst president of my lifetime. Trump has a chance to surpass, but so does Kamala.
Zionism does not equal Judaism.
However, the evidence in the UK strongly suggests that among the top, most influential British Jewry: Judaism does equal Zionism.
No, it does not.
JO.
Everything is now coming down to the actuality of culpable.
I am SO bored with people's comments here.
GO and VOTE Blue. It really is not important.
The USA will be crawling on their hands and knees to join BRICS
Nice job. Keep being frank. We humans need to keep speaking up that this genocide has to stop! Nothing else takes priority over this. Or else, you are ...... a monster.
Only humans can understand that
Speak up yes, but become activist to take down this monstrous abomination
Nothing takes priority over stopping this genocide. However one joins the fight. Each as each one can. Keeping your voice heard, your written word read, your ....
And it's not just Kamala, it's other western leaders too. How do we deal with the fact that they support genocide? What do we do?
You could pray that Cornell West wins the election by default.
Dr. Jill Stein has a better chance of being elected. Best not to spread the love too thin.
Oh yeah, and mass disobedience! Boycott taxes, disinvest, harass Congress
Andy.
IF you don't get this I don't know what you will understand.
Mainstream Media (MSM) is your biggest challenge.
I have written till my fingers get tired:
PROTEST outside MSM offices: They are culpable.
Yes, could help. But they represent the voices of the ruling class class, oligarch, do they not
Harris has really revealed what a f*ing monster she is.
I proudly voted for Stein/Ware today in the state of New Mexico.
Same! I cast my vote in NM on Saturday for Jill Stein.
A wasted vote - but by far not as wasted as a vote for Harris or Trump!
Great! I mailed mine in last week to the State of Washington.
“….Harris continued. “They also care about our democracy and not having a president of the United States who admires dictators and is a fascist…”
So the jist here she bear hugs Netanyahu, cheers mass murder, gives Israel weapons to do it, provide him “ironclad support” at the UN and with the US military, claims credit from the US weapons industry for subsiding it……..but that wouldn’t make HER a fascist who admires fascist leaders.
This is such a half baked argument that she could only make it to idiots who can’t think for one second.
These people believe America is a nation of idiots. That’s why they do what they do.
USA IS a nation of idiots!
They’ve been correct about the nation of idiots and I don’t see any change on the horizon.
Let's not overlook the major censorship push from the current administration.
You haven’t grasped my point at all.
It’s up to the electorate to prove them wrong. Any vote for Trump or Harris is saying “I’m an idiot”.
The United States of Genocide
Genocide ’R’ Us
The Genocide World Tour
Palestine - Korea - Vietnam - Lebanon - Iraq - Somalia - Afghanistan - Iraq - Libya - Syria - Palestine
To paraphrase Gil Scott-Heron:
“The genocide will not be televised
The genocide will be live-streamed”
And don’t forget the Dirty Wars in Central and South America. And of course the genocide against indigenous here in the US. We have such a long history of evil acts.
Please, not, "we." Let's not associate ourselves with the ruling class, even through language which is a powerful shaper of thought, ours and those who hear, or read our words.
The people keep voting for the puppets, and then allow them to do things that are against everyone’s best interests. There is definitely a we of the citizens, whether you like it or not. We built our houses on the bones of murdered American Natives, like the Israelis do to the Palestinians. Denying responsibility of the citizens isn’t constructive.
I agree. I’m sick of people who say it’s awful but nothing I can do about it. I get it, sometimes it feels impossible, but damn. Go to a protest, boycott Israel, write to your representatives, don’t vote for the monsters, do anything, do everything! We, the American people, are 100% responsible for continuing to support a terrorist state.
I don’t believe in the history of hostile empires has there been such a pervasively evil and highly amoral collection of monsters as is the US and its minions!
Not paraphrased, updated.
Sunlight is still the best disinfectant. We need people like Caitlin to shine a light on the things that that they don't want us to see, and to also point out some of the things that other people are shining lights on.
In 1985, the U.K. backed apartheid South Africa and said the African National Congress were terrorists. Now they back apartheid Israel and say Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.
The state can be wrong.
Let someone put this to a vote at the United Nations
Vetoed
I suggest that use of a veto automatically removes your place on the Security Council...
Well said Contrarian 33!
I'd donate my "expensive" groceries over and over again to Gaza if I could
And the really great thing is that voting for her isn't even going to lower grocery prices or bring Roe vs Wade back. She's not going to deliver on either of those.
Yep. She's conveniently leaving out the skyrocketing cost of groceries under the Biden/Harris administration. Her shitty, soul-less argument isn't even convincing.
My go to cliche is nothing fundamentally will change. Get it??
That was Biden's statement to his rich elite donors. For the non-rich, non-elite, things are very much materially changing for the worse.
"More and more people are seeing that western liberalism is just a more photogenic version of fascism."
This sentence just sums up everything I feel about Harris and company perfectly. "Abortions and groceries prices" are more important Harris thinks than saving lives in Gaza and shutting down arms sales to Izrealhell. Uh-huh. Her callous remarks make me wonder how many abortions she has had and if she even shops for her own groceries if she doesn't think genocide is that big of a deal. What a moral imbecile she is! More on the "Moral IQ" https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-moral-iq
Between supporting a genocide in Gaza and their abortion stance democrats are leaning hard into killing babies as their electoral platform.
Go baabaa to the church.