Yes. These body counts remind me of the weekly lies of General William Westmoreland regarding how many Viet Cong were being slaughtered via massive saturation bombing.
Soldiers who served as boots on the ground knew that the numbers were bogus.
Westmoreland tried to convince Congress and the US taxpayers that every bomb dropped onto Vietnam was equal to some number of dead victims. However, the bombing runs were repeatedly hitting the same target, most open fields.
The timing schedules and targets of the bombing runs were highly predictable, so the affected people knew when to leave the target zones and when to return.
The situation in Gaza is different, with undercounted dead bodies, many of which were either completely incinerated or are still buried under the urban rubble.
I don’t doubt that. Westmoreland’s propaganda was an attempt to demonstrate the success of the arial bombing routines and his requests for more funding that benefited the defense contractors.
In fact, the US underestimated, as all aggressors do, the number of Vietnamese killed, while the Vietnamese government claims 3 million killed. The US military claims 900,000 killed, and suggests the real total is 600,000. Most historians report 2.5-3 million killed, mostly civilians. In Iraq, the military claims 167,000 killed, studies show 1 million. In Gaza, Israel claimed 1400 killed, then 1200, then 700 civilians, ignoring that many Israeli victims were killed by the IDF. Hamas claims it did not target civilians.
Wait, I thought it was nuclear weapons? Or maybe it was missiles? Or closing the Straits? Now we're back to protesters?
“A wolf, meeting with a Lamb astray from the fold, resolved not to lay violent hands on him, but to find some plea to justify to the Lamb the Wolf’s right to eat him. He thus addressed him: “Sirrah, last year you grossly insulted me.”
“Indeed,” bleated the Lamb in a mournful tone of voice, “I was not then born.”
Then said the Wolf, “You feed in my pasture.”
“No, good sir,” replied the Lamb, “I have not yet tasted grass.”
Again said the Wolf, “You drink of my well.”
“No,” exclaimed the Lamb, “I never yet drank water, for as yet my mother’s milk is both food and drink to me.”
Upon which the Wolf seized him and ate him up, saying, “Well! I won’t remain supperless, even though you refute every one of my imputations.”
Moral: The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.”
Yes. Thank you. I hope people are waking up. Spoke to my friends in Iran during breaks in the communication blackout in January. It was clear there were outside agitators, who were organized and armed. Yes the Gov. in the confusion and shock of a couple hundred (there's a number) police killed, also killed innocents in response, and that is a tragedy. One life is. Your number is correct, and the names of those killed are listed, verified.
And here the US and Israel are killing many thousands of innocents. STOP in the name of LOVE. My tax money. STOP!
One small ancient city Qom, has had a thousand homes destroyed so far in our bombing. We are hitting hospitals, schools ..... Iran is a beautiful land and people. They don't hate Jews , nor Americans.... this is false. We just want our oil and gas, and want control. STOP. Iranians would make tremendous allies. they have been the adults in the room. They want true peace. Keep standing up! Thank you.
Like when all hospital deaths were being attributed to COVID even when COVID was secondary to the cause of death, perhaps they are adding the numbers of Iranians being murdered by U.S. and Israeli missiles to the "protester" death count.
Now you see where the six-million hollowcaust lie comes from. Many have suffered much more in WW2 yet typically are never even mentioned because they are not chosenites. Like Palestinians are always painted as "terrorists" on their own land being stolen from them by jews and the western fascists. By far the biggest export product by the West is LIES, WARS, and GENOCIDES advocacy.
People online yell at me whenever i question this. But at one point the lie was 40,000 in one weekend in Tehran. So I questioned. Where do you move 40k bodies. How do you move 40k bodies. I see videos in Tehran I don't see videos of 40k bodies. Then their "proof" was a red cross report of "hundreds of corpses" seen in a morgue... Hundreds, does not equal 40k. When I pondered then, if 40k people were killed in your city in one weekend. Would you be brave enough to go back into the streets again? In those videos there wasn't massive structural damage. There was no blood on the streets. So how do you kill 40k people, hide the bodies, clean up the spilled blood, and repair the inevitable destruction caused? All without video evidence, in this wretched year of 2026?
I asked if anyone remembers the refrigerated trucks holding corpses at the start of COVID, and if that was such a huge logistical issue in NYC for instance, how could tens of thousands of people be killed and their bodies destroyed without a trace? No one has ever answered this 🤡
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the waters of infinity.
Then God said: Let there be math. And he laughed, and laughed, and laughed… - Paul Vonharnish -
(9/16/2025)
All modern "reality" is a true story based on fiction... Next >>>
Fascinating. It makes me wonder, is consciousness a fiction, or real? If it is real, what is it? What is a conscious emotion? What makes an emotion real? Is an emotion a chemical reaction? How does a chemical reaction produce an emotion? Or even a thought? What is thought? Fiction or real? If thought is real, how is it real?
What is energy? What produced the Big Bang? Is Time real? ... Next >>>
More important than ever that the search for justice continues! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
In future, as we collectively look back on these turbulent times with horror, the rogue US regime will be remembered by historians as the fictional US regime: fictional wealth, fictional power, fictional values, fictional morality, fictional intellects – in general fictional people.
But that is the way of the West – where culture has developed so as to exist in such a tenuous relationship to reality that meaning is fluid, and all things contained within are subject to it’s logic of flow. No authenticity, no permanence – ethics becomes expedience, meaning is marketing, reality is nauseous. No history, only copywriting. No values, only vulgarity.
Unfortunately for the world of the present, being a fictional empire does not make you any less dangerous.
Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.
I've said this a number of times to the apologists :
"You're going to tell me you claim Iran killed more people in 2 days with armed soldiers than you claim Israel killed in 2 years of bombing Gaza? Something's wrong with both your math and your lying"
This kind of deception by governments and media is already going on since WWI. Read: Arthur Ponsonby, Falsehood in Wartime, written in 1929. A few instances:
-During WWI, people in countries like Britain and Canada were stirred up by stories about the Germans cutting of the hand of little Belgian girls. After the war, not a single girl with chopped-off hands was found.
-In that same war, the Germans were accused of turning the dead bodies of their fallen soldiers into soap in giant soap factories. Thies lie wasn't a great success, so it could be recycled after WWII, this time with the Jews as victims. It was given much publicity first, to the point that bars of soap were given an official funeral, but it was quietly dropped later on.
It's gotten to the point where if anyone I engage in conversation shows any faith or credulity in our "legacy" media or in the assertion of any politician from either side of the aisle, I exclude them from serious consideration in my mind. They need only to be humored and then prodded at opportune moments. It's not easy, though, so tenacious is the ideological hold on people's minds, so deep the desperate need to believe that those with power over us are benign.
The pretexts used to justify the war keep changing, because all of them are pretexts.
See Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and Venezuela for starters.
Palestine..........I expect we will never know.
And all the way back to the Gulf of Tonkin for dessert
Yes. These body counts remind me of the weekly lies of General William Westmoreland regarding how many Viet Cong were being slaughtered via massive saturation bombing.
Soldiers who served as boots on the ground knew that the numbers were bogus.
Westmoreland tried to convince Congress and the US taxpayers that every bomb dropped onto Vietnam was equal to some number of dead victims. However, the bombing runs were repeatedly hitting the same target, most open fields.
The timing schedules and targets of the bombing runs were highly predictable, so the affected people knew when to leave the target zones and when to return.
The situation in Gaza is different, with undercounted dead bodies, many of which were either completely incinerated or are still buried under the urban rubble.
Thanks for the reminder. The very sight of the name Westmoreland sends spasms into my bowels.
I had the misfortune of seeing and hearing Westmoreland in person.
An indelibly imprinted misfortune, I'm sure. I was luckier; only had to see the man on TV news.
Hi CK
I had many friends who served in Nam. They universally told me that if you so much as fired your rifle, it “counted” as a killed Vietcong.
I don’t doubt that. Westmoreland’s propaganda was an attempt to demonstrate the success of the arial bombing routines and his requests for more funding that benefited the defense contractors.
In fact, the US underestimated, as all aggressors do, the number of Vietnamese killed, while the Vietnamese government claims 3 million killed. The US military claims 900,000 killed, and suggests the real total is 600,000. Most historians report 2.5-3 million killed, mostly civilians. In Iraq, the military claims 167,000 killed, studies show 1 million. In Gaza, Israel claimed 1400 killed, then 1200, then 700 civilians, ignoring that many Israeli victims were killed by the IDF. Hamas claims it did not target civilians.
IN war, all sides lie.
And when they lie, they become the enemy.
Remember the Maine!
Wait, I thought it was nuclear weapons? Or maybe it was missiles? Or closing the Straits? Now we're back to protesters?
“A wolf, meeting with a Lamb astray from the fold, resolved not to lay violent hands on him, but to find some plea to justify to the Lamb the Wolf’s right to eat him. He thus addressed him: “Sirrah, last year you grossly insulted me.”
“Indeed,” bleated the Lamb in a mournful tone of voice, “I was not then born.”
Then said the Wolf, “You feed in my pasture.”
“No, good sir,” replied the Lamb, “I have not yet tasted grass.”
Again said the Wolf, “You drink of my well.”
“No,” exclaimed the Lamb, “I never yet drank water, for as yet my mother’s milk is both food and drink to me.”
Upon which the Wolf seized him and ate him up, saying, “Well! I won’t remain supperless, even though you refute every one of my imputations.”
Moral: The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.”
This one never gets old.
Western Empire of lies only knows to ... well ... LIE.
Yes. Thank you. I hope people are waking up. Spoke to my friends in Iran during breaks in the communication blackout in January. It was clear there were outside agitators, who were organized and armed. Yes the Gov. in the confusion and shock of a couple hundred (there's a number) police killed, also killed innocents in response, and that is a tragedy. One life is. Your number is correct, and the names of those killed are listed, verified.
And here the US and Israel are killing many thousands of innocents. STOP in the name of LOVE. My tax money. STOP!
One small ancient city Qom, has had a thousand homes destroyed so far in our bombing. We are hitting hospitals, schools ..... Iran is a beautiful land and people. They don't hate Jews , nor Americans.... this is false. We just want our oil and gas, and want control. STOP. Iranians would make tremendous allies. they have been the adults in the room. They want true peace. Keep standing up! Thank you.
Like when all hospital deaths were being attributed to COVID even when COVID was secondary to the cause of death, perhaps they are adding the numbers of Iranians being murdered by U.S. and Israeli missiles to the "protester" death count.
Not really, no.
They don't need to add them because not even then it will add up, they just make up a number. Not even real dead people are necessary
Of course - I'm just pointing out that the U.S. and Israel are factually murdering Iranians.
Six million. Anyone?
Now you see where the six-million hollowcaust lie comes from. Many have suffered much more in WW2 yet typically are never even mentioned because they are not chosenites. Like Palestinians are always painted as "terrorists" on their own land being stolen from them by jews and the western fascists. By far the biggest export product by the West is LIES, WARS, and GENOCIDES advocacy.
People online yell at me whenever i question this. But at one point the lie was 40,000 in one weekend in Tehran. So I questioned. Where do you move 40k bodies. How do you move 40k bodies. I see videos in Tehran I don't see videos of 40k bodies. Then their "proof" was a red cross report of "hundreds of corpses" seen in a morgue... Hundreds, does not equal 40k. When I pondered then, if 40k people were killed in your city in one weekend. Would you be brave enough to go back into the streets again? In those videos there wasn't massive structural damage. There was no blood on the streets. So how do you kill 40k people, hide the bodies, clean up the spilled blood, and repair the inevitable destruction caused? All without video evidence, in this wretched year of 2026?
I asked if anyone remembers the refrigerated trucks holding corpses at the start of COVID, and if that was such a huge logistical issue in NYC for instance, how could tens of thousands of people be killed and their bodies destroyed without a trace? No one has ever answered this 🤡
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the waters of infinity.
Then God said: Let there be math. And he laughed, and laughed, and laughed… - Paul Vonharnish -
(9/16/2025)
All modern "reality" is a true story based on fiction... Next >>>
Fascinating. It makes me wonder, is consciousness a fiction, or real? If it is real, what is it? What is a conscious emotion? What makes an emotion real? Is an emotion a chemical reaction? How does a chemical reaction produce an emotion? Or even a thought? What is thought? Fiction or real? If thought is real, how is it real?
What is energy? What produced the Big Bang? Is Time real? ... Next >>>
this is a slam dunk and i appreciate you taking the time to compile this evidence
More important than ever that the search for justice continues! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
Find out what they’re doing here:
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org
The least we can do is donate to help them:
Support the Hind Rajab Foundation
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In future, as we collectively look back on these turbulent times with horror, the rogue US regime will be remembered by historians as the fictional US regime: fictional wealth, fictional power, fictional values, fictional morality, fictional intellects – in general fictional people.
But that is the way of the West – where culture has developed so as to exist in such a tenuous relationship to reality that meaning is fluid, and all things contained within are subject to it’s logic of flow. No authenticity, no permanence – ethics becomes expedience, meaning is marketing, reality is nauseous. No history, only copywriting. No values, only vulgarity.
Unfortunately for the world of the present, being a fictional empire does not make you any less dangerous.
Well done for publishing and saying - Peace be upon you by Gaza and Jerusalem - Honour and victory are the allies of the axis of resistance and its allies, and humiliation and shame are for the axis of evil, Epstein Class (USA, Britain, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, NATO Governments, Zionist and Israel) and its allies.
I've said this a number of times to the apologists :
"You're going to tell me you claim Iran killed more people in 2 days with armed soldiers than you claim Israel killed in 2 years of bombing Gaza? Something's wrong with both your math and your lying"
It's based on the Big Lie theory that no one would have the audacity to lie to such a great extent. Therefore, the logic goes, it must be true.
One would think the constantly shifting numbers in the ascendance would be a clue about the falsehoods.
Some people are incapable of thinking.
The second Sumud flotilla has departed from Barcelona, 12 April, 2026. They can use y/our support.
https://globalsumudflotilla.org
This kind of deception by governments and media is already going on since WWI. Read: Arthur Ponsonby, Falsehood in Wartime, written in 1929. A few instances:
-During WWI, people in countries like Britain and Canada were stirred up by stories about the Germans cutting of the hand of little Belgian girls. After the war, not a single girl with chopped-off hands was found.
-In that same war, the Germans were accused of turning the dead bodies of their fallen soldiers into soap in giant soap factories. Thies lie wasn't a great success, so it could be recycled after WWII, this time with the Jews as victims. It was given much publicity first, to the point that bars of soap were given an official funeral, but it was quietly dropped later on.
My fav is the 'burning 90,000 corpses' Xitter post.
Reminds of some historical 'event' that J's LUV to bing up.
Again. And again.
It's gotten to the point where if anyone I engage in conversation shows any faith or credulity in our "legacy" media or in the assertion of any politician from either side of the aisle, I exclude them from serious consideration in my mind. They need only to be humored and then prodded at opportune moments. It's not easy, though, so tenacious is the ideological hold on people's minds, so deep the desperate need to believe that those with power over us are benign.