Olof Palme, Swedish Prime Minister, assassinated 1986, another, like JFK who threatened to steer events in directions away from that which would load the pockets of the Capitalist imperialist cabals with the profits of war. Hasn't it always been war for war's sake?
The US and Israel don’t want a deal — they want submission. If they're losing the war they're about to start, as much as I don’t want it to happen, Israel will not stop until they’ve essentially destroyed Iran even if that means a nuclear strike. They’re insane on the issue and have been for decades.
So what happens if a nuke goes off in that part of the world? Anyone know? How far can the radiation go? Estimated deaths immediately and in the future?
Trump is also a bankster, and that's exactly why the threats keep coming while the excuses keep changing. Blair pretended to be some kind of internationalist liberal democrat, thus the polite facade and more consistent rhetoric, while he is ever capital's lapdog. Vietnam and Iraq were failed concocted wars of Empire, and nothing other than--but the neoliberal pundits and legacy media tend to call them "wars of choice," without much attention to the interesting details of who made the choices.
Always everything to maintain the hegemony of the dollar, without which the USA could no longer sustain the current military expenditures with which it sustains its dominance and would remain merely a heavily indebted country that would have to produce what it consumes instead of creating money out of thin air to pay for the goods purchased from other countries.
But it was Israel that begged Trump to call for a ceasefire. Israel was on the ropes. As with every other provocation, Iran responded with prudence and caution. The problem now is that if Iran initiates a preemptive strike, they’ll look like the aggressor. In June, they clearly weren’t.
Think how much safer the world would be if Iran, or someone, could neutralize Israel’s nuclear capabilities. That’s the silver lining of the next war, but a very long shot.
What the US should bomb instead is the “only democracy in the middle east”. The armada is close enough. The only path to peace on earth. Do it T, do it for humanity. The entire planet will shower you with love. Your statues will be erected in places you haven’t even heard of. There will be hotels and holidays in your name. You’ll go from pariah to legend in an instant. C’mon…now is the time.
There is a justification; they just can't say it. The justification is that Israel always has to have an enemy, that enemy must be reduced to ruins, and when it is reduced to ruins, a new enemy must be found.
"It’s not about nukes or protesters or dictators or drugs, it’s about ruling the world."
You'd think by now the imperialists would just give up piling on the lies. It must be tiring trying to come up with a new lie all the time. Why not just say, "We have to take over Iran because we want to control their oil production and use it for our own purposes." If you're going to bomb Iran anyway, at least come clean about it, right? Nobody is fooled by the lame excuses anymore.
I don't know much about what is going on in Iran or how Iranians feel about what's going on, (but I do trust what I read and hear from the regulars on Judge Nap). That leads me to expect that if Amerika or Israel attack Iran, they will respond by shutting down the global economy and devastate Israel and any US military base in the region.
It's way past time the rest of the world told Amerika to pack up all their toys, fuck off home and get back in their box.
Yes, the ridiculous justifications for a (ruinous) war with Iran just keep coming....But Iran has some highly destructive capabilities, not just in its large inventory of hypersonic missiles, but in its ability to close the Strait of Hormuz almost instantaneously, creating massive shortages of oil in the West....And if Iran has any sense, they have or soon will have, nuclear warheads to hit Israel with.....Don't do it Donald...Your risking a depression ib the US and EU...
I can't help but wonder how many people actually believe these lies, or convince themselves that they're not really lies. I'm sure the numbers must be dwindling, but there are diehards who still believe Trump.
I ran would be a fool to take any kind of deal with the blustering bullshit artist, better to be ready for war, than to be sandbagged by the United States of Israel
[insert country here] better come to the negotiating table and stop [insert reason here] or the U.S.A. will bring shock and awe like the world has never seen!
"The tragedy of war is that the young men die fighting each other - rather than their real enemies back home in the capitals.
Every patriot must stand at the ready to defend his country agains its government." —Edward Abbey
Olof Palme, Swedish Prime Minister, assassinated 1986, another, like JFK who threatened to steer events in directions away from that which would load the pockets of the Capitalist imperialist cabals with the profits of war. Hasn't it always been war for war's sake?
War will make corpses of us all.
The US and Israel don’t want a deal — they want submission. If they're losing the war they're about to start, as much as I don’t want it to happen, Israel will not stop until they’ve essentially destroyed Iran even if that means a nuclear strike. They’re insane on the issue and have been for decades.
So what happens if a nuke goes off in that part of the world? Anyone know? How far can the radiation go? Estimated deaths immediately and in the future?
Make a deal on nuclear? Wasn't there already a deal on nuclear between the US and Iran? The one that #45 killed off unilaterally? That deal? FFS!
This time Israel will ensure that the terms are such that Iran will be forced to reject them.
Yeah there was. It may not have been perfect, but it sure was better than what we got now.🙁😞😢
All wars are Banker’s wars. Numpty Trumpty is just another puppet like Blair.
Trump is also a bankster, and that's exactly why the threats keep coming while the excuses keep changing. Blair pretended to be some kind of internationalist liberal democrat, thus the polite facade and more consistent rhetoric, while he is ever capital's lapdog. Vietnam and Iraq were failed concocted wars of Empire, and nothing other than--but the neoliberal pundits and legacy media tend to call them "wars of choice," without much attention to the interesting details of who made the choices.
Always everything to maintain the hegemony of the dollar, without which the USA could no longer sustain the current military expenditures with which it sustains its dominance and would remain merely a heavily indebted country that would have to produce what it consumes instead of creating money out of thin air to pay for the goods purchased from other countries.
I will never understand why Iran agreed to stop pounding Israel into oblivion during the 12 day war.
Huge numbers of Iranians were getting killed and further escalation would have been disastrous for everyone.
But it was Israel that begged Trump to call for a ceasefire. Israel was on the ropes. As with every other provocation, Iran responded with prudence and caution. The problem now is that if Iran initiates a preemptive strike, they’ll look like the aggressor. In June, they clearly weren’t.
Think how much safer the world would be if Iran, or someone, could neutralize Israel’s nuclear capabilities. That’s the silver lining of the next war, but a very long shot.
Yes, the Iron (rusty?) Dome had been breached, and NOBODY was allowed to report on the damage the zionist enemy had received.
There are no silver linings in war, however much we'd like that to be the case.
I agree, but war is being forced upon Iran.
War is already being waged against Iran. It's merely a question of when she is driven to retaliate.
It still seems like putting off the inevitable, especially considering that they were striking high-value targets and causing considerable damage.
May the hegemon and israhell get their just deserts.
If you stand with Trump, you kneel to Netanyahu.
What the US should bomb instead is the “only democracy in the middle east”. The armada is close enough. The only path to peace on earth. Do it T, do it for humanity. The entire planet will shower you with love. Your statues will be erected in places you haven’t even heard of. There will be hotels and holidays in your name. You’ll go from pariah to legend in an instant. C’mon…now is the time.
Dr.Who, And he will win the Nobel peace Prize! Which he has been coveting for ever.
Of course there’s no justification at all
There is a justification; they just can't say it. The justification is that Israel always has to have an enemy, that enemy must be reduced to ruins, and when it is reduced to ruins, a new enemy must be found.
This most assuredly won't end with Iran.
"It’s not about nukes or protesters or dictators or drugs, it’s about ruling the world."
You'd think by now the imperialists would just give up piling on the lies. It must be tiring trying to come up with a new lie all the time. Why not just say, "We have to take over Iran because we want to control their oil production and use it for our own purposes." If you're going to bomb Iran anyway, at least come clean about it, right? Nobody is fooled by the lame excuses anymore.
Trump pretty much said that after busting Venezuela when he said he didnt want such a strategic oil reserve in the hands of U.S.A's enemies.
So does anyone know what happens if a nuke goes off in that part of the world? How far can the radiation drift? How will the rest of the world react??
I don't know much about what is going on in Iran or how Iranians feel about what's going on, (but I do trust what I read and hear from the regulars on Judge Nap). That leads me to expect that if Amerika or Israel attack Iran, they will respond by shutting down the global economy and devastate Israel and any US military base in the region.
It's way past time the rest of the world told Amerika to pack up all their toys, fuck off home and get back in their box.
And fix their own country.
Yes, the ridiculous justifications for a (ruinous) war with Iran just keep coming....But Iran has some highly destructive capabilities, not just in its large inventory of hypersonic missiles, but in its ability to close the Strait of Hormuz almost instantaneously, creating massive shortages of oil in the West....And if Iran has any sense, they have or soon will have, nuclear warheads to hit Israel with.....Don't do it Donald...Your risking a depression ib the US and EU...
But Donald must do as Israel commands.
We are only obeying orders -- as someone else once said.
I can't help but wonder how many people actually believe these lies, or convince themselves that they're not really lies. I'm sure the numbers must be dwindling, but there are diehards who still believe Trump.
As a rule, people believe whatever is most convenient to believe.
I ran would be a fool to take any kind of deal with the blustering bullshit artist, better to be ready for war, than to be sandbagged by the United States of Israel
There isn't going to be a deal. Not unless Trump stands up to the Zionists.
It'd be nice if he did -- but I wouldn't hold my breath.
[insert country here] better come to the negotiating table and stop [insert reason here] or the U.S.A. will bring shock and awe like the world has never seen!
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