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notBob's avatar

"western political/media class which conveyed the idea that because something bad happened to Israel, Israel now gets to do a little genocide" - this is the entire reason for the media propaganda campaign and in many cases the entire reason for the bad thing to start with.

Its a twisted self fulfilling prophecy where a nation "arranges" to be attacked, allowing it to happen, funding the attackers for years before the event, training the attackers in the use of the provided weapons. Then amazingly out of nowhere these radicalized terrorists do the unthinkable.

Unthinkable to the masses and any moral person but part of the plan to the power brokers. The visible power brokers play their part and pretend to be shocked, express their outrage at the unthinkable thing and of course call for war and total destruction of the preplanned enemy.

The elites get richer in gold and power, the average man gets a dead family and destroyed home.

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russian_bot's avatar

The mechanism has been in use for ages and succeeds every time, when done right. It's a testament to the stupidity of the general population. Down to an individual, reasoning with whom fails at first mentioning of a notion of timeline.

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notBob's avatar

Claiming its all the fault of the dumb citizen completely dismisses the idea that false flags are never done under a democratic process, nobody asks joe sixpack if they want a false flag to happen to start a war. By the time a false flag has happened the emergency is declared and war has begun the average person is already in a war. It is intentionally done that way to prevent any dissent against the war.

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russian_bot's avatar

Right. So, Joe Sixpack never learns that he wasn't consulted and keeps falling for false flags over and over. He also doesn't realize that in fact there's no democracy and continues to believe there is, expecting to be consulted for future false flags.

That is, Joe Sixpack is indeed dumb.

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notBob's avatar

Yeah those dumb Palestinian children not paying attention to the elites and eliminating Hamas with their toy guns, this is all their fault.

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russian_bot's avatar

Now you're just trolling.

Do Palestinians have "democracy" there? Have they had centuries of deceits like that to consider? I'm not saying they wouldn't behave like all others have, but your being coy puzzles me.

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denny's avatar

Actually he was loosely quoting Isaac Herzog.

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denny's avatar

The notion that the USA is a democracy, IS a false flag. democracy cannot co-exist with liberty.

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denny's avatar

Nailed it.

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denny's avatar

Nailed it!

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Jacek Hoffman's avatar

Your fighters killed our civilians, now we have the right to kill your civilians.

And who is responsible? Cui bono? Who benefits?

In my opinion, Israel benefits from this, as well as the US.

https://swprs.org/ari-ben-menashe-on-israeli-black-operations/

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Jo Waller's avatar

I agree with the process, but this looks like the US to me. The Israelis have no desire to fight, not like the burning rage their government has created in the Palestinians and other Arab nations. I think the Israeli people, and their leaders, are going to get shafted in this US proxy war and, just like the Ukrainians and Zelensky-hero-to-zero, their blood is going to be all over Biden's and Sunak's hands.

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Jeano's avatar

But I think the Israelis have a desire to kill. They are constantly shooting unarmed children and old men. They just don’t want to fight ARMED people. It’s sorta like not all American Southerns wanted to fight Black's, but most of them approved of the KKK and the lynchings.

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Susan T's avatar

I think it is important to differentiate between the people of Israel and the people who have the power there. It is the military who are doing the killing, following orders from those in power. I think that when people are surrounded by those who promote hatred and killing, they probably just shrink back into themselves and try not to be seen. That does not mean they are stupid. They just don't know how to deal with those behaviours.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

"differentiate between the people of Israel and the people who have the power there."

Why?

People have a choice. They elected Netanyahu. And thousands, if not millions, of Jews across America send money to AIPAC and the ADL and they support the right of a fascist, apartheid nation to exist.

Isn't that the same reasoning Israeli officials are using to attack Gaza?

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Diana's avatar

Social philosopher Nasim Talib in his book "Skin in the Game," stated that a small highly motivated minority could more successfully insure their policies were implemented--rather than the politics of the vast majority that don't care as much about the outcome. Of course, a totalitarian government will trump both the minority and the majority with its monthly boosters. No one seems to want them--and yet it seems they may well be mandated from the expression on Biden's face.

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Susan T's avatar

I see what you are saying, but I still think that the people with the power are the ones responsible for these horrible decisions, even if that power was given to them by the vote. Voters have all kinds of things thrown their way to sway their vote, and I agree that some voters fall for lies whereas others do not. The other problem is that there has not really been people to vote for who are not either greedy, power hungry capitalists themselves or who are not co-opted by other politicians at some point. Our political systems are corrupt. Voters will have a very difficult time changing that, if it is even possible.

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denny's avatar

Ethnic cleansing. which is why they deferred to the King of ethnic cleansing: Unilateral Sociopathy Assured...

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes indeed. The more powerful seem to be happy to keep people controlled and scared, but they wouldn't want to fight an actual war. Like the French found fighting against the Haitians; war with people fighting for their very lives is hard. I'd be worried if I lived in Israel. The Hamas attack deliberately provoked Israel. The Israel counter attack deliberately provoked the Arab world. The deliberate provoking of the Arab world provoked the West. Boom.

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Susan T's avatar

Yes, I would be worried too if I lived in Israel. I have not noticed that those who provoke the aggression ever actually fight in the wars or send their children off to to fight in the wars that they provoke.

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denny's avatar

Bibi and Herzog allowed it to happen.

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Susan T's avatar

I don't think the people of Israel benefit. Netanyahu and his cronies benefit. They are the "tough guys". They think that is a good thing. I don't think people anywhere benefit from any of the wars being promoted by those in power and by their cling-on corporations.

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Jacek Hoffman's avatar

I agree, you're absolutely right.

Covert operations and false flag operations are the domain of governments, not citizens.

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OziSeekerbloke's avatar

Worth repeating this opening quote from the link kindly provided by Jacek Hoffman above:

Quote: “The slush fund helped finance the intelligence community’s “black” operations around the world. These included funding Israeli-controlled “Palestinian terrorists” who would commit crimes in the name of the Palestinian revolution, but were actually pulling them off, usually unwittingly, as part of the Israeli propaganda machine.” (Ari Ben-Menashe, Profits of War, 1992, chapter 8)

Yep, smells like a false flag to me too.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

"...a new CNN poll finds that half of Americans have been successfully convinced that because something bad happened to Israel, Israel is “fully justified” in raining hellfire on a giant concentration camp in which half the population are children."

Only half? Do you realize what a sea change this is? In spite of the most bellicose rhetoric in support of Israel EVER coming out of the White House and Congress, amplified by the corporate media, ONLY HALF of Americans believe it?

I am 65, and have been an outspoken opponent of Zionism since the 70s. I've never seen American opposition to Israel on anywhere near this scale.

The centerpiece of lies cannot hold. This is a good thing, Caitlin.

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JackSirius's avatar

Your point is important. Despite every effort of the western Empire to spread its official narrative and to suppress free speech, it has not universally succeeded. In fact, just the opposite. The more authoritarian the Empire becomes, the more blowback against it. Propaganda only works when people don’t realize it’s being used to influence them. Now that it is legal for the US government to propagandize its own citizens—40 years ago we laughed at how the Soviets actually believed what was printed in Pravda—our distrust of government has skyrocketed. The pandemic may have been an exercise in sheepifying us all, but instead it turned a substantial slice of the population against all of the formerly revered authorities in government, media, and academia. Of course we aren’t out of the woods yet. The Empire is doubling down on its rabid urge toward authoritarianism and global war. But there are bright spots, as the poll you cite indicates. Just one Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan video probably gets more views than a week of all the cable news shows combined. People are increasingly craving honest and accurate criticism of authority. Now all we have to do is make sure we’re not underneath the Empire when it collapses.

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Kojo's avatar

Well yes it makes sense. Americans are the ones funding and arming Israel, because their deep state believes this is a good way to ensure regional chaos in the middle east.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

I'm noticing so many on social media speaking out about this, and I think it's changing the narrative. We need to continue to speak out, since our political representatives are generally not the voice of reason here in the global north these days.

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Diego's avatar

Beware, social medica is explicitly designed not as a purveyor of news or information but as an echo chamber that pulls in (money-making) engagement. I fully agree with Caitlin's Newsletters and all viewpoints therein but I'm not too relaxed that there's a sudden sea change in viewpoints in the US and elsewhere in the west. My (and your) clicks on these newsletters and other like-minded sites are "noticed" by social media software and social media shows its users what social media thinks its users want to see.

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NE - Naked Emperor Newsletter's avatar

Not just recent times. Same could be said about the killing of civilians during WWII

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notBob's avatar

The Black Sea Raids in 1914 were a false flag plot by the Ottoman empire where their navy was supposed to push Russian ships into attacking them and then use it to declare Istanbuls involvement in the German war against Russia. The naval captain was out of control and just blatantly attacked the Russia coast resulting in Russia declaring war on the Ottoman empire.

False flags are an old time mechanism to drag a nation to war.

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Traderfran's avatar

Excellent article. BeBe added fuel to the embers and started a fire when at the UN he addressed the Israel of the future. Waving a map of the future Israel... which showed NO Palestine ... all 'eaten up' by Israel. That was only a few weeks ago. The address hit a number of Asian news articles at the time, but seems to have been missed by the west.

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Waving a map of the future Israel... which showed NO Palestine ... all 'eaten up' by Israel. That was only a few weeks ago. The address hit a number of Asian news articles at the time, but seems to have been missed by the west."

Doubtless an inadvertent oversight, I mean why would western broadcasters parse the statements of the Israeli leader?

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Traderfran's avatar

I do like your 'tongue in cheek' comment. I think we could go way, way back in history and still see 'the media' in bed with the politicians. I'm thinking of the 'yellow press' of the Mexican-American War back prior to the US Civil War (or War Between the States as some say).

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Reminds me of the "rationality" of eight-year old male street urchins, as I was in NYC, when one of our gang showed up with a black eye, having lost a fisticuffs encounter with a tough kid named Charlie who lived two city blocks away. Out came the retribution/revenge knee-jerk: gather the baseball bats, rocks and other weapons, we're going on the march to Hot-fists Avenue because no one can treat OUR GANG like that. Gratefully, there was often one cool head who demurred because he knew that if his father found out or if he tore or soiled his clothing, he'd get a worse beating than Charlie et al. could ever render. In retrospect that pre-pubertal brainwashed American male stupidity strikes me as the cognitive level of this entire retributive mindset.

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@smokygirl2006's avatar

Give Peace a chance, folks. You hit the mail on the head, Caitlin. Good newsletter.

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JoeMichel's avatar

Totally nails it and thank you

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Feral Finster's avatar

Only some nations. The Golden Billion.

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Jo Waller's avatar

This brilliant from Ali Abunimah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cYwPCzFtGo Peace can only be achieved by identifying the problem, which is 100% Israel.

European settlers backed by the US must end their occupation. They will increasingly be unable to suppress the Arab volcano they're sitting on. Whether it ends now and they get to walk away or whether they go for war and decimation before they're forced away, is kinda up to them I think.

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Chekstein's avatar

Spot on

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John Metson's avatar

Exactly

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Patricia Blair's avatar

The situation is dire. The US really has no integrity leadership. It’s new Congress Members are sent off on an AIPAC sponsored propaganda trip to Israel. Biden is a Zionist and he is surrounded by Zionists. How many Americans realize the evil that prevails? Their water and soil is poisoned by the military and industry. Most of the media is owned by corporations or individuals of ill will, profiteering. Reading about other nations, not much better. A world without a conscience! I despair! But I don’t give up on something better.

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Daniel Helkenn's avatar

Stop making sense

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Sari Tähtinen's avatar

Thank you Caitlin🙏

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