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Alex's avatar

Anyone who thought Trump was anti-war or anti-Imperialist has shit for brains. All US presidents serve the empire. Nothing shocking at all here. The empire will now go full fascist domestically to match its foreign policy of economic & military warfare.

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Curmudgeon's avatar

It would be nice if they did go "full fascist". The employment standards in the US would dramatically increase and there would be a universal health care system.

All wars are banker wars, and Trump is attached at the hip to them as is Musk.

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Louis Rexster Jr.'s avatar

You must not be Alex Jones, because Jones is still imbibing on the campaign Koolaid.

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ANN HEFFERAN's avatar

I think not - you might want to follow actual events. Naysayers are talking the propaganda - your mind has been captured by the MSM - I will. tell you something. The Democrats are the most dangerous people on this earth.

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Alex's avatar

I never ever consume MSM/Corporate media & I'm not a Dem. You have no idea who I am or what my political ideology is. My statement is 100% accurate. You, on other hand, seem captured by standatd RW delusions & hallucinations.

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ANN HEFFERAN's avatar

What does RW stand for? Oh, right wing. I'm happy to say where I am politically, socially, on economics and on being human. It's Marxist socialist. Sorry I assumed things about you. I don't like the way Caitlin talks to people and I shouldn't do it either. Again, apologies. I'l clean up my act.

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ANN HEFFERAN's avatar

Nonsense

Total nonsense

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Susan T's avatar

It all fits in with the rest of the world. A bunch of racist, violent thugs in Amsterdam are the victims of antisemitism, Trump will end all wars, Immigrants are the cause of all the problems everywhere, there is no climate crisis, oil companies need our support, fracking is a great idea, women cannot be allowed to control their own bodies. Pretty soon cigarettes will be on every airplane, in every movie theatre and those poor cigarette executives will be able to fatten up their already fat bank accounts. The world according to Trump and friends.

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denise ward's avatar

I'm with you on all that except climate change. The name needs to change to pollution. Climate always changes, it's pollution that is the problem.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Pollution is only an aspect of Climate Change - which is the REAL issue. The solutions to address both are quite different - but it begins with Capitalism, over-production, consumerism, inefficiences due to the profit motive, etc.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Communism and State directed poverty are the obvious solution. Keep the pesky plebes in line.

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SW's avatar

We’re going to drown in our garbage, plastic crap (including that in our blood stream and women’s breast milk) and polluted water. Fracking requires tens of thousands of gallons of fresh water that is then polluted with thousands of chemicals used to crack.

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SW's avatar

Frack

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Spunty's avatar

Yes, because all those climate scientists are wrong, and you're right. Correct?

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jamenta's avatar

"You'll learn very, very quickly that natural changes in climate"

This is a common retort to the climate crisis. It fails to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of scientists who have studied the ongoing change would of course have considered first: whether climate change is a "natural" change or not. It's astonishing to me the level of obstinancy and arrogance of people who are unwilling to examine the data and who insist their TRIBE of political correctness must be correct while they deliberately ignore proveable facts. This is the same type of political correctness bullshit Liberals pushed in the last few years, say with Russia Gate.

For example, the overwhelming consensus (outside of crackpots) of climate change scientists - and they have known for DECADES, that the RATE OF CLIMATE CHANGE in the world is FASTER than it HAS EVER BEEN. They know this because they've gone to the North Pole and measured the RATE OF CLIMATE CHANGE of the different climate epochs on earth, and therefore know FACTUALLY that the climate change we are experiencing now is not natural, but is obviously caused by human exploitation and unchecked and unholy corporate greed. That is to say, letting the billionaires do whatever the fuck they want, to whomever and whatever they want, is destroying the fucking earth.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Thank you.

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includeMeOut's avatar

Some truth there except our current warming is primarily driven by fossil fuel industrialism which is causing various tipping points to occur which combined will be catastrophic. Carbon is not the only factor, deforestation, top soil erosion, etc. Carbon is fetishized because it can be monetized, eg, carbon credits, which will further enrich corporations.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Wow - I guess you're into junk science. Another climate change denier? I won't even bother correcting the multiple places your thinking is fallacious and illogical - it would consume too much time. But seems like you're in good company in Substack with all the climate change deniers it seems.

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Horatio Bunce's avatar

Your entire belief in AGW is a joke, you have been duped.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

You have just opened your mouth and proved you are ignorant. Thank you.

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Susan T's avatar

I didn't say climate change. I said climate crisis.

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denise ward's avatar

I see, however I wish to make the point that we are focusing on the wrong thing. The climate is far too complex to pin down however pollution is quite clear and achievable to reduce - if we are conscious of it.

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Susan T's avatar

you are nitpicking and not really making sense. Not to me, anyway.

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denise ward's avatar

No not nitpicking, just trying to be accurate. It is not a sleight on you in any way. I look for new thinking, thinking that will get us out of this mousetrap.

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Susan T's avatar

then use accurate language. Pollution is a part of the climate crisis, it is what is driving the climate crisis, it could be reduced. The real issue is that our politicians and their corporate friends don't want to pay attention to it because it would cost them too much money. The climate crisis is our forests burning down, people dying in unprecedented flooding, the oceans are dying, fresh water is becoming more scarce. All this is a product of pollution and money grubbing. It is a climate crisis.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

Pollution is driving UNPRECEDENTED climate change 🤡

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Wrong. You obviously don't understand science.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Well, there's one thing to say for Trump--he's utterly predictable. A predictable war hawk and swamp monster. A predictable idiot and total clown. A predictable racist and misogynist. In other words, the perfect example of an American statesman.

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denise ward's avatar

Touche!

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

Did you know that spamming with multiple copies of the same comment is really annoying?

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

If you've got my mother in your driveway, you have to keep her. You are right that she is a bitch.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

He's probably projecting. He probably spends as much time as he can, drunk and naked in other peoples' driveways.

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Dr.Who's avatar

Trump’s “The War to End All Wars” Cabinet

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Maria Fuencisla de Felipe's avatar

Likely, Trump will impose a peace to end all peace. This is the tittle of a seminal book on the remake of the Middle East after WWI, by David Fromkin. The quote comes from from a British officer about the Versailles treaties: “After the war to end all war, they seem to have been pretty successful in Paris at making a peace to end all peace”. Sadly, sounds so familiar.

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Alex's avatar

Republicans always engage in voter suppression but that's not why Dems lost

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JennyStokes's avatar

I heard the Dems did this too!

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Alex's avatar

Are you once again thinking "outside the box"?

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JennyStokes's avatar

No. Just repeating what I heard . But it makes sense.

Just look how badly Jill Stein did..why?

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gypsy33's avatar

Jenny, in the state of Ohio ( a real shithole) there were signs at precincts advising people to NOT for Stein because her votes wouldn’t be counted! I mean, WHAT THE FUUUUCK?

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Alex's avatar

Probably because most know by now Stein is a lazy fraud & just decided to stay home & not vote. Btw how does suppressing the vote of potential Stein voters work?? No one gives af about her anymore. It's better to not vote at all than vote for her

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Ron, here's the problem with such "conspiracy theories":

- When Republicans lose, they are the ones creating such conspiracy theories.

- When Democrats lose, they are the ones creating such conspiracy theories.

Currently, the Democrats ARE creating Conspiracy Theories (like the ones you mention above) - it's to be expected - but don't fall for them (due to your confirmation biases and/or political leanings).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Same arguements that the Republicans were using after a Trump loss is what the Democrats are now using after a Harris lost.

It's easy to get sucked in into all the noise and irrelevant details and forget to use critical thinking for accessing the quality of sources and how the system works.

In the coming days, there will be MANY MORE Conspiracy Theories by Democrats that are finding it difficult to cope with the "4 years of Trump" thing - and I empathize with them. But the focus has to move on (from the election) to preventing/ameliorating the consequences of a Trump Presidency (if you care about America and the rest of the World).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

So I guess you're into Republican Conspiracy Theories, huh ?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

Worse than expected. Im disappointed but not surprised. Trump is a salesman. He'll say anything to close the sale. US culture approves of this. It's a foundation stone of society.

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Sam's avatar

Does it matter? Presidents only get elected if they will advance American hegemony. If not they aren’t elected or they get dead.

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Gladwyn d'Souza's avatar

The Adelson tail wagging the dog.

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Erwin Warth's avatar

Looks like business as usual. Trump hasn't changed his spots!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

He was never going to. This is what 50+ years of US politics has brought us - no good options to choose from. I am not surprised.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Caitlin, you said it all in this article - nothing left for me to say about how abhorable Trump always was and always will be (things have changed - his 2nd term will be WAY WORSE from the looks of it).

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Patrick Powers's avatar

It's too good to be true.

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Maurice Delacourt's avatar

He’s a bad guy who loves bad people

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anton siebrits's avatar

Warmongering is very much on-brand for the US.

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Pippi Smythe's avatar

Amurdicans need to take a hard look at how many jobs are dependent on the Military industrial sector. Then connect to why the country is always at war. Ie profit for the MI sector. Then look at who you are the military arm of. Amurdica can be taken down at anytime as the owners have already removed any assets of value before the crash. The treasury will always be looted in the final days. Too naive to know the game, even though it is an old template. So free, you could ignore this for decades. Except you weren’t free, you were being set up. Dumbed down on purpose.

Slavery is the most profitable economic system ever tried. The chattel , for the bank loans, kept running away. It never ended for the reason you were taught.

Technocracy has the means to ensure the chattel are kettled.

Easiest loss of rights in world history.

Darwin Award

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ShastaBetty's avatar

As I said to my friend and neighbor who is a strident Trump supporter: "He promised to drain the swamp last time and just brought in a bunch of swamp monsters, so let's just wait and see what he does now." And now we know. It seems he may be reneging on his promise to place RFK, Jr. in a key spot regarding health.

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Alex's avatar

RFK Jr. is trash

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

His own family agrees re "trash."

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ShastaBetty's avatar

Oh, I think we know who the trash is and it is not RFK, Jr.

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Pertinent Chatter's avatar

He outed himself as trash when he called Israel our "aircraft carrier in the middle east." He is trash. Zionist trash.

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Alex's avatar

Brilliant reply, Betty. If you think RFK Jr. should be in charge of anything health-related then you too must have brain worms

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Get your booster shots yet? Flu season coming.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"It seems he may be reneging on his promise to place RFK, Jr. in a key spot regarding health."

I hope he does. RFK Jr. and "health" don't belong in the same universe. Though RFK Jr. will likely be more successful at killing US citizens faster than anyone else...(eg. his conspiracy theories that go all the way back to the 1980s to the present - too many to list).

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ShastaBetty's avatar

And you are just stupid like Alex above.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Sure - anyone that doesn't agree with your "opinion" is stupid - got it. Incredibly unassaultable logic - congrats!

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

I've always been suspicious of RFK. He is a rabid environmentalist who would risk the already failing financial situation in the U.S. with the "Green " agenda. The reality is in this day and age without oil nothing happens. Look around yourself and you will see that pretty much everything you see is made from the results of either oil or mining.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Please indicate your level of "critical thinking" and logic.

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Alex's avatar

I've finally interacted with an actual RFK Jr. fangirl. I thought your existence was urban legend

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

First of all russian_bot please don't lump me with anyone - I say this bearing in mind that the people you mention too may not like being lumped with me.

Could you also explain to me what exactly you mean by " Trump deranged syndrome".

Is it because I detest the man, his extreme right wing policies and his boorishness, misogyny, racism and lack of decency?

Or is it because you think he is a great statesman?

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Ron Stockton's avatar

Actually, shitlibs are quite the opposite. They are the ones who got us here. In the face of all evidence they insist we have democracy, that both sides have good points/intentions, that capitalism is a law of nature, capitalism can be compassionate, we should vote for the “lesser” of two evils, and on and on.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Another Anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. As I've said before, you're in good company - Substack is full of people like you. Not worth my time correcting your "information", "knowledge", and logic - there's enough documentation debunking EVERY argument above - but of course you wouldn't want to read it as it goes angainst your confirmation biases and will very likely create irreconceivable cognitive dissonances.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Oh, MAGA types will throw out excuses after excuse.

To be fair, Trump and Barron would invent a free cure for cancer ("this one weird old trick...") and Team D would bitch about the doctors he put out of work.

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wally's avatar

seriously... an actor playing an act, all his talk is scripted to deceive the people into a false and fake saviour, false idol worship is what is at play and the main stream media is the catalyst to people being brainwashed that some how political minions are going to fix what they have created...wake up world, enough low level distractions, raise the frequencies. public service has been weaponised and become the actual #axis of #evil within.

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A Parseeker's avatar

Like a swamp, or more like a septic, drain it — only to fill it up again.

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Spunty's avatar

I wonder how keen these war-mongers would be if they and their families had to go into battle first. I bet you wouldn't see them for dust.

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David Avenell's avatar

Despite the election results, the neoliberal warmongers still rule the roost. I agree with both Caitlin and Zaphod Beeblebrox - the President has no power, the Presidents job is to draw attention away from the power.

So bend forward, put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

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irish's avatar

explain that to the mindless trumptards.

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Jim's avatar

Drain the Swamp II lasted less than a week. The ignorance of the public never ceases to amaze me.

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