Here's a, not so wild, idea that MIGHT, stop the U.S. aided and abetted Genocide in Gaza. It requires Erdogan, the big dog in Turkey, to put his money where his mouth is, so it might never happen, but I'm throwing it out there to you people of good will here as food for (i.e. a possible way to STOP Zionist Nentanyahu's EVIL Genocidal Rampage) thought. If you think it is a good idea, please pass it on:
🕯️ THOUGHT EXERCISE SCENARIO:
Erdogan of Turkey becomes fed up 😡 with the 💥☠️ Genocide in Gaza perpetrated by the Zionists. He knows full well that the U.S. under Bush Jr. planned, though opted for the WMD LIE instead, to fraudulently obtain a casus belli against Iraq by suckering Saddam into shooting at a U-2 invading Iraqi airspace. Armed with this knowledge of history, he devises a plan to FORCE NATO to demand an immediate, and permanent, 🕊️ CEASEFIRE in Gaza.
Turkey secretly sends a C-130 type aircraft (i.e. Cargo aircraft with a large rear door normally used to supply troops in the field without landing), with FULL Turkish Air Force Markings to CLEARLY identify it as being part of the Turkish Air Force, on a humanitarian mission to Gaza.
The Jordanian Air Force did that for a Jordanian Hospital in Gaza about a month ago, but, according to the IDF, "with 😉 PRIOR IDF approval" 🙄. Of course the IDF would say that fib to save face, wouldn't they? I bring the Jordanian cargo drop to your attention because it IS DOABLE.
C-130 dropping pallets of food and supplies over Bagram Airfield, Kandahar, Afghanistan:
This OBVIOUSLY UNARMED Turkish aircraft flies at a few feet above the ocean to avoid being spotted by radar (close to the ocean surface a radar noise called "sea return" makes all return clutter from wave tops nearly impossible to spot a low flyng aircraft UNLESS there is no wave activity - IF the sea is choppy, you are masked by by waves = invisible - I was an ATC Radar Controller - I know this stuff), then pops up at the beach over Gaza.
After quickly reaching a predetermined location of desperately hungry and injured Palestinian men, women and children, parachute drops several pallets of hospital supplies and food, but then gets 🚨 shot down by an IDF fighter plane on the way out.
Erdogan, rapidly informed of this by the U. S. AND the smug IDF, feigns outrage at the downing of the cargo C-130 by the IDF, though part of his secret plan counted on the IDF brutally attacking and downing it.
According to NATO, that would constitute an attack on a NATO member, which REQUIRES that ALL OTHER NATO members defend Turkey against, in this case, Israel! 👀
Israel is NOT a member of NATO. An IDF deliberate act of war by shooting down an unarmed Turkish military aircraft would, according to the NATO Charter, AUTHORIZE Turkey to, uh, 😡 respond, would it not? 😕
Now Erdogan proceeds to the second phase of his plan to put ALL of NATO (i.e. Genocide Joe BIDEN et al) in a 👉'CEASEFIRE OR ELSE' 👈 BOX, along with the 👿 Zionists.
Turkey, beyond demanding that Israel, or the U.S. Naval Assets in the area, rescue the C-130 crew that parachuted out of their unarmed aircraft as it was attacked, does not move a military muscle. 😇😁
What then? Erdogan can legally claim that Israel MUST be 🦅 treated like Iraq or/and Lybia were 🦍 treated. Of course 🐍 Netanyahu would claim the IDF fighter aircraft had the right to self defense from all those pallets "full of weapons for Hamas" that the "hostile" C-130 dropped...
Without skipping a bold faced BS beat, Netanyahu would soberly and confidently assert that the IDF fighter aircraft "defending Palestinians from Hamas terrorist pallet aggression" obtained convincing, certain, and undeniable gun camera video evidence that the C-130 was really a "disguised Iranian aircraft". Everyone who isn't a terrorist sympathizing antisemite knows Iranians don't know how to paint Turkish Air Force markings.... "We have certain, irrefutable and undeniable recordings of the pilots speaking Iranian. That IRANIAN TERRORIST aircraft is capable of carrying a nuke! This is an existential threat to Israel! All humanity is in danger! NATO must attack Iran immediately!" 👀 🤦♂
NOTE: Whenever you hear Netanyahu, or any other Zionist, speak, remember their ONE IRON RULE: Logic is an Enemy and Truth is a Menace.
Would all this, besides exposing NATO hypocrisy on steroids, cause NATO unity to crumble? We can only hope so.
Scott Ritter 🗽: "NATO is an empty shell, use Ukraine & Israel as vehicles for a big war Russian H@mas"
I don't know. The only thing I can think of is there is a continuing groundswell of dissent from the peons - and/or someone who has real power/wealth decides to actually do something about it. Until then, it appears the massacres will keep going.
The only thing I can imagine is if the money runs dry, if the dollar crashes and no foreign nation will buy our sovereign debt then the war machine will have no fuel. I am afraid the CBDC strategy from the Fed is designed to side step the crashing dollar and allow the hellish party to continue.
The Jan 6th false flag was intentionally targeted at the citizen dissenter to send the message that if you rise up against us in even the slightest way we will jail you and your family. A public voice of dissent was just arrest in LA (Siaka Massaquoi) for misdemeanors on Jan 6th. Evidence that they continue to use the threat of J6 prosecution to suppress dissent.
Interesting Caitlin's comment about them being prepared to send all the Palestinians to the gas chambers - I have a photo of a wall in Hebron on which there is sprayed graffiti reading "Arabs to the Gas Chambers"
A massacre created and carried out by Israel. I don't think Netanyahu's attempt at genocide benefits the US. America may not care what happens to the Palestinians, but we have nothing to gain by the carnage Netanyahu has, and continues to inflict on the people of Gaza. Israel may service our needs in many ways, but this is not one of them. Certainly it increases tension among Middle Eastern countries like Turkey who on a number of occasions condemned Israel's actions, and it also helps to further destabilize the region. It also absolves Netanyahu's actions on a number of levels. He is the one who cultivated Hamas since neither wants a two state solution, and I am not going to let him and his right wing government off the hook and not take full responsibility for the carnage they have inflicted and will continue to inflict on the people of Palestine.
But.. don't you see Fran, they - the US and Israel - are partners in crime. One supplies the arms and the other carries out the carnage. The mafia boss is not absolved of the crime done by the hired gun. They are both culpable.
The tragedy is how long is the rest of the world going to just look on and let the genocide of a people happen.
I cannot imagine voting for any Leader in the world who does not condemn this.
As for India it's already nearing the point of a facist dictatorship but Biden loves Modi. India could be very important here, they have close ties with Israel it just takes 1 big country to turn away and then all the other yellow belly swamp creatures will too.
Please more leaders DO something. How can they sit and even know this is happening.
People forget how much control Israel has over the US. Would Netanyahu have come to America and pranced into the WH confronting Obama, on his Iran deal if they didn't? Then remember no American politician is safe from AIPAC and it's wrath. You have a bunch of neocons in the Biden White House and they are also calling the shots. Why is it in the interest of the US that no two state solution is found in Gaza? Israel is not as bad off and dependent as it once was on the good old USA. The one state solution and the carnage belongs to Israel. The devastation it wrought cannot help the US's relationship with any country in the Middle East. Remember that Israel serves our interests, and that's why it has so many nuclear weapons, our base in the ME. Then Israel is right in the middle of all those oil routes. Not to mention the neocons have quite a bit of influence in the Biden administration since they slipped on over during the Trump years, therefore the war in Ukraine.
While I can agree there is a certain amount of political control exerted by Israel on the US when it come down to the pentagon and CIA they pursue their own goals.
Suggesting that Biden's admin was infiltrated by neo-cons is delusional, he has been in office for 40 years and has been directly involved in every war during those years, Biden is a neo-con and always has been, so is Obama.
NotBob do you live in America? Your last comment tells me you do not. "Ambassador Victoria Nuland was designated Acting Deputy Secretary by President Biden effective July 29, 2023. She also serves as Under Secretary for Political Affairs and was senate-confirmed in that position in April 2021" Remember her in the Obama administration deciding who should be the president of Ukraine after the US backed coup. Blinken is a neocon, our secretary of state. Just in case you need further confirmation of what I am saying go to the link below. I can truly say, so much for your delusions.
Yeah, I have been an American since I was born here in 1963, I have studied history for several decades now and I see what you are trying to do. You want off load the responsibility for the war mongering of presidents by blaming it on their appointees.
I'm sorry but I have no quarter for the mass murdering office of the president, it makes no difference which president you select, we have been at or started a new war during every single presidency regardless of party or excuse.
Read the book "Obamas Wars" - it details the heinous and unnecessary attacks committed under the Obama Administration during his 2 terms. He was the only two term president to have started wars during both terms. Biden was his right hand man during the 7 nations he invaded and started wars in.
They are both deep blue neo-cons that have no redeeming values.
Excellent, Indu, and of course we benefit from these wars. Our entire economy rests on selling arms because we have decimated our industrial base, thanks to the Clintons and Oblahma, and must feed the maw of weapons industry. Plus, in East Asia, aka, the Middle East, we are trying to draw in Iran so that we can then try out our nukes to see if they work and then be able to build new ones.
Israel and the US colluded on the false flag of Oct 7th, the attack from gaza justified Israel genocide of gaza, the attacks from Syria justified US returning to bombing Syria and justifying war with Iran. Both nations achieved their goals of fomenting wars of opportunity based on the actions of Hamas - cui bono - The US and Israel benefited !
But it does serve US goals, the US wants increased tensions in the middle east, the US wants conflict and death as it destabilizes our enemies. The US would watch the world burn if it mean it could secure its hegemony.
As I said before., I was very active in the antiwar movement, and you are right our agenda is world wide domination, no matter how many lives we have to slaughter, no matter how many countries we need to destroy. Ukraine is a very good example of that.
There is lots to gain. Who is talking about the failure in Ukraine any more? And Hunters influence trading? And Joe's multiple lies about being involved in those business dealing with Ukraine? (And no, because I always have to say this - I am not a MAGA person.)
" The White House's decision last week to abstain from voting on a United Nations Security Council resolution that demanded Israel stop settlement construction on occupied Palestinian territory infuriated Benjamin Netanyahu, further straining an already tense relationship between the Israeli prime minister and President Obama.
The decision to abstain from voting broke with decades of US policy that shunned UN resolutions which condemned the settlements.
Netanyahu took to Twitter to express his displeasure with the US, namely arguing that the UN was not the venue to tackle the issue of the settlements."
This SOB does what he wants, and Biden with the neocons at his back doesn't have the guts to put him in his place.
My point was that the article, or my interpretation of it, does not place full responsibility for the carnage taking place in Gaza with Netanyahu, Israel, and I'm not buying that. Israel has in recent years gained more independence from the US and doesn't need us the way it once did It can pretty much take care of itself. However it is our base in the Middle East and perhaps she has more control over us then vice versa.
I don't see it that way. I think Joe Biden has been a liar and a warmonger his entire life. He knows exactly what he is doing and is pretending he's against this ongoing genocide only to cover his political ass. They are still supplying Israel with all the arms they need for this obscene slaughter.
My point is that if one thinks they can call a president in the US and tell him to call off the genocide in Gaza they are mistaken. Our political system is not that simple, by any means. There are many operatives that determine policy at home and abroad. The people of this country have the least say. Biden has been a war monger most of his life and pushed every war during his vice presidency under Clinton and Obama. His position in the Senate as chair of the foreign relations comm allowed him to push his agenda of war in the Middle East down the throats of his fellow democrats. I did not say I like this man, but even if he wanted to call off this genocide, no way. By the way, we're really not a democracy since the voice and interests of it's people are quite secondary to almost everyone else. That we are aligned with Israel seems to surprise a lot of people and I have no idea why, especially when one considers our long history of backing Israel and it's genocidal behavior in the past when it comes to the people of Gaza.
OK I see what you're saying. Haven't been following this thread/debate very closely. I also do wonder if Netanyahu would stop if Joe Biden actually did tell him to. Although it has happened in the past, one wonders if the blood lust of Netanyahu and apparently his even more extremist cabinet would simply disregard the US withdrawing its unconditional support and continue on with the massacre. At this point I'm not at all sure, given just how insane everything has become.
However, currently Joe Biden along with his usual lies and senility - is going along with the massacre - which in itself I find is an inhuman abomination - and discredits any kind of moral stance by the US. This US president and his cabinet have done more damage to the US's standing than any president I can think of. It's truly unthinkable he pretends he is for human rights and is trying to protect "civilian" life while at the same time continuing to supply Israel with arms and not forcibly and vocally in public removing his support of this Internationally rogue criminal nation. And make no mistake about it - Israel has become a rogue criminal state by any moral standard - given its current massacre of the Palestinian population. 700 mostly unarmed civilians killed in 24 hours - is not defensible - or justifiable whatsoever. It is a human atrocity. Comparable to the Nazi atrocities in the 1940s. One cannot condemn what is taking place forcibly enough - and it is horrifying to see the US enabling it.
Brick's point is that Israel cannot wage its war without constant ongoing American support. That is why literally hundreds of US military cargo aircraft have flown to Israel since October 7. It's safe to say that they are not delivering Amazon Prime.
Moreover, and Brick doesn't mention this, but the United States provides Israel with diplomatic support, bullying any dissenting countries into submission. This is why Europeans are by and large disgusted with Israel, and Arabs are furious, but their rulers dare not do anything as long as Israel has unlimited and unconditional American support.
I am expressing my opinion and as far as I know I am entitled to do that whether it contradicts Caitlin or not. It is you who are the loyal subject.,Groupie.
That we support the carnage Israel is perpetrating in Gaza and even glad for it, is absurd, and the claim it benefits us is equally absurd, but I've learned from being here a couple of other times one cannot challenge Caitlin's claims unless one is willing to defend one's position repeatedly, and too often the opposition comes with insults. How we benefit is beyond me, and Israel's actions have already generated stronger ties between Middle Eastern countries whom we do not perceive as our enemies, like Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. Yes Israel is strategically located along our oil routes, and yes she is our nuclear base in the ME, etc, but I don't think we are glad for, or benefit from Netanyahu's long term agenda of wanting a one state solution that is obtained through total destruction and death of the Palestinians people for all the world to see, and pursuing this ill conceived mindset if anything lets Netanyahu and his extreme right wing party off the hook. They are culpable.
A good call! Round up the Zionists!! Every single man Jack of them. Surprising perhaps but I actually volunteer to defend them in court. We should examine every last bit of why/how this madness has happened & I'm absolutely determined to put ritual unanaesthetised 8 day old baby mutilation [circumcision] & the role of rabid adrenochrome addicted rabbis* under the world's spotlight.
Have a wander around the area of "Cluster B personality disorders". I contend that there is huge damage done and because all the males in the entire tribal team have been subjected to this identical barbaric & brutalising ritual, they are all vulnerable to the supremacist thoughts constantly instilled into them by some of their alleged holy men acting as divine thought leaders and that's over the centuries of course even from Bronze Age times so it's fairly well ingrained. I'm sure the adrenochrome these 'holy' men gorge on ultimately drives them insane. They're driving this shitshow and the latest fruits of their megalomania are on naked display in Gaza and the West Bank while other areas of their long lived and desperate malevolence are across the planet but are much more hidden like a silent cancer. I rail against the unhinged rabbis and their actions and certainly not of the Jewish people, male *&* female as a whole, who are really the primary victims in all of this. I'm suggesting society's scientists and whoever else should put their clever compassionate hats on and do some proper R&D on stem cells with a view to reconstructing the [God-given] foreskin for those who desire it. Apart from that, (sorry for the outrageous pun), I have no skin in this game & have no personal interest in this area.
On the evening “news” last night, there wasn’t one mention of the war. Nada. Zip. Nuthin’.
I guess if you can’t find something supposedly “positive” to say about IsraHell, you just ignore the situation altogether and pretend it isn’t happening.
It is sick how so-called "news" run by a few billionaires now are nothing but propaganda outlets - like something out of George Orwell's 1984. It's shocking just how much these people lie to us and get away with it everyday. And we know these massive media outlets now are tied to the State - which is by definition a type of fascism - when corporations and State work as one entity. We are ruled by lies and money. And now our same rulers will massacre entire populations before our eyes and claim they are doing so for freedom, and human rights. It really has become an Orwellian nightmare.
I would disagree to some extent. There were some American laws on the books to require a level of objectivity in our news broadcasts. A few decades ago however, these laws were removed, watered down - along with anti-trust laws. And the laws for legalized bribery of American politicians were also watered down - where monied interests are now running rampant over all aspects of American life.
The only thing that stands between the obscenely wealthy completely running a society is a working representative government. Which is why in the last number of decades there has been a concerted effort by the American wealthy to propagandize Americans into assuming government by default is evil in itself. That is a lie. Government itself is not evil. It can be made to be evil - just as it can be made to be good. I do not subscribe to the Ayn Randian ethos that all government is bad. Nor am I an anarchist.
If you think it's bad now, get rid of any kind of representative government - the billionaires will be fucking you and your children in the ass even more each day. Ordinary workers will be treated as slaves and nothing more. We're already moving in that direction because the wealthy now have corrupted and bought out our supposed representative government.
The problem we have in the US is not the government, but the obscenely wealthy, so-called "job providers" - who blame everyone but themselves (especially the poor) for the state of the country.
There might have been some laws and maybe they were even respected (remember Kissinger's "Unlawful we do immediately..." - applicable on any level) UNTIL the situation called for their removal or castration to some extent. That is, the control agenda worked even with those laws in the books.
Not sure why you referenced government, but since you did - any government must serve the ruling class which will make sure that its form is deceiving enough for the public so it believes its benevolence. That is, governments are just another tool of the rulers. It's much better to have that as a buffer to pull the wool over the public, than straight up military police on every corner.
I am not as cynical as you are regarding governments. Civilizations can and have flourished (and still do) with moral and mostly uncorrupt governments.
The ideology government is never any good only serves the sociopathic rich even more. Less government only gives them even more power.
The problem is not government in of itself; it is government that is corrupt. And I don't believe government is necessarily always corrupt. That is a pushed lie (by the wealthy) I don't believe in.
Nader urged us to vote for Genocide Joe. He's done a lot of good things, but similar I would say to Chomsky, he's become a bit addled in his old age. A reminder that no one is perfect.
As an older teacher used to say to me, "No one is perfect! There is no such thing as perfection. Not even the Gods are perfect!" That was many moons ago.
One thing puzzles me - as people get older they should start caring less and speak more truth. But I guess for some people that's really their truth, and it's ugly.
As far as non-perfection - sure. But in one's profession it should always be in one direction: improvement. In physical craft when one reaches an age of disability - they just stop doing it. In mental should be the same.
I never was big on Dylan's, "Do not go gentle into that good night". Even though it's a remarkable poem, I believe the second half of one's life is more about letting go from the ego centeredness of our youth, more of a quiet reflection and aftertaste. It's a mistake to keep trying to hold onto youth. But it's also a mistake to assume the second half of life doesn't have a meaningful value on its own, but entirely different than raging on as if one is still in your 20s.
Tangential from Nader - but come to think of it, it is a kind of dilemma of our time - to hang on to power and youth as long as one possibly can, as if that is all life is for. Take for example Joe Biden, or the rest of the failing cronies in DC - McConnell etc. Or the silliness of some prominent actors/actresses taking roles suited for 20 year olds. It doesn't work - and it isn't meant to work.
What's left of my 75 year old ego has cleared everything away to deal supremely aggressively against my latest malady - cancer. With my immune system now rendered almost hopping mad against abnormal cells with the assistance of a [low level] fruitarian diet, I'm fighting this all the way up to success or final oblivion or whatever else there is behind that inevitable curtain! Lol! My hope, jamenta, is that a huge after-show party, a feast of eternal friends no less, would be a superb sequel to life here on Earth but no-one lives to tell the tale! Not even any pope, archbishop, or Allamah. No-one. Your guess is equally as good as mine or Dylan's!
My condolences with your struggle. I find the scientific work of cardiologist Dr. Pim van Lommel regarding NDE's hopeful. But that's just my own thoughts on a possible afterlife. Like you - I really have no idea. Although I find it rationally hard to accept consciousness itself is just a random meaningless accident along with reality. The mystery of "Why Existence" remains - even now, with our most advanced scientific discoveries and scientists. There is also the case of Mrs. Piper, studied by William James and other scholars of the time - which points to unusual, non-local attributes of consciousness.
Nevertheless, we must value human life, whether consciousness persists beyond the body or not - is my take (still). If we are spiritual beings at all - then we are meant to be human and value human life, or I think we likely wouldn't be here. Take care.
How many servicemen have died, sacrificed or given theirs lives for the USA? Well, I too am now willing to give up my life - if it puts an end to American invasions and killing of millions throughout the entire world once and for all! The US is never going to stop until we are finally attacked, and deservingly so! LOOK at these photo's and tell me you too would not be willing to give up your life - if it prevented such atrocities from ever happening again - it is beyond unconscionable.
Here's the best part about all of this - we are NOT the worlds super power anymore! We also do not have the best military in the world. For arguments sake how much artillery have we shipped elsewhere? Last I heard, we were down to about 450 thousand troops - one of the lowest numbers ever not to mention the lowest recruitment ever! Lets take it a step further and how many absconded from the military rather than take the clot shots? Which is why they are now begging and pleading with them to return with back pay etc.! Gets even worse - we now also have the highest number of disabled pilots from the clot shots! Sooah, you can have the greatest weaponry in the world but without the manpower to operate it you're basically shit out luck. Therefore we could not be at a worse deficit then we are now in other words ripe for an attack! BTW the caliber of our military is probably also the worst it's ever been. They're desperate for recruits and have scraped the very bottom of the lowest of the low. Almost 70% are overweight or OBESE! Now compare that to Russia and tell me again how we're the best!
The only good thing I can find that relates to your excellent points is that Israel was the first nation to get vaccinated for COVID, few people were allowed to opt out. Sooner or later that's going to reduce their military forces, if it hasn't already.
I'm not sure of the "setting oneself ablaze" protest - I mean don't know what that has ever accomplished - in fact if anything it makes you appear somewhat unstable to say the least!
My personal point was - if we are finally attacked in retaliation for all the atrocities we have committed throughout the entire world - and rightfully so mind you (in personal opinion)
then I say it's worth it if it puts an end to the US hegemony! I would be willing to die and certainly not be spending one billion dollars on a campaign claiming Anti-Americanism!!
Have you seen the total bullshit articles the NY post has been putting out today? This is unbelievable - but again Israel is spending one billion on this campaign. BTW I just read an article that Hamas only killed 200 soldiers (the one's who were in charge of Gaza) and took another 230 hostages. It was the IDF that killed the rest as now proven which is why Israel is doing all of this! Hamas was given the order not to kill civilian which is why they video taped everything. They filmed the Israel's who were present saying and admitting the IDF came in and shot up everything It really was a brilliant move on Hamas's part when you consider 95% of the world is standing in solidarity with the Palestinians! Here's the NY Post headlines:
1) Starved Israeli hostages were drugged, fed before release to look calm and happy on camera: 'Psychological torture'
2) Jewish students at Harvard, MIT, NYU and Penn facing death threats, assault: ‘Back to 1939’
I passed about 30 synagogues today and made sure there was not ONE police car in front of any of them! NO increased security - NOTHING!
"...the US empire is run by sociopaths who only care about global domination, and nonstop violence from Israel is a key component in the domination of a crucial geostrategic region on this planet."
This is what's wrong with the world in a nutshell. US Empire. Sociopaths who care only for global domination. Violence is the tool they use to get what they want. That's why we've got to shut down the military-industrial complex, turn off the pipeline of arms to genocidal maniac states like Israel, and march all the sociopaths off to the guillotines. The world isn't safe with them around. The spirits of Palestinian children bombed in their cradles tells us this is so.
Every time Israel drops a bomb, Blinken"s consulting firm makes $ thousands, Lloyd Austin makes $ thousands through his employer, Raytheon, and Hillary has an orgasm.
Dump them. Remove also their political jargon that has been developed to keep everyone else out. We do not need these bankster-owned Zionist monsters. Direct democracy is the remedy. When the public & experts decide everything is when we can all relax and watch our human race come into peaceful bloom on this gorgeous planet at long last!
I agree wholeheartedly. My country is being run by sociopathic scumbags. But the American people continue to vote these monsters into office time and time again. They(not all) continue to believe these politicians are going to save us and that the only option is to vote for the lesser of two evils. How can you vote for the lesser of two evils when one monster is just as evil as the other monster?! I used to believe my country was the best in the world, but not anymore. I know it’s the politicians in D.C., not the people, but the American people do put these assholes in office and some very dear to me still think that these politicians speak for us. Well, they definitely don’t speak for me. This is a GENOCIDE!!😢
As support for the War On Afghanistan dwindled, the Pentagon commissioned a study which concluded that the undecided voters were most likely to favor continuing the war if it was couched as a struggle for women's rights. Hence, public messaging shifted, which is why we heard politicians and journalists express a touching concern for Muh Afghan Women And Girls became ubiquitous. This in turn allowed that particular grift to continue for a few years more.
And we all remember the lurid allegations of rape used to sell the War On Libya the War On Ukraine.
In the last few days, public messaging on Gaza has shifted to unsupported allegations of mass rape, even though nobody has produced any rape kits or other evidence. But the MSM and politicians have changed their line almost simultaneously.
An invading army has no rights to defend itself against resistance. None whatsoever. I also dismiss Zionist israel's 'right to exist'. Religion belongs in churches, mosques and synagogues and most certainly not in statehood or politics.
The US is now doing the thing where it pretends it doesn't really approve while sending thousands more massive bombs to Israel like those bombs could be used for anything other than killing tens of thousands more people
So, the US is responsible for what is happening in Gaza. Could the fact that 90% of Biden's cabinet holds dual citizenship (Israeli-American) have anything to do with that?
Yes, I think I've seen that one. Very interesting to listen to the testimony of some of the people who spent time in the German labour camps... not the kind of interviewees who would ever make it on Spielberg's casting couch.
"These freaks would happily send every Palestinian alive to the gas chambers if they thought it would advance their strategic interests one iota."
I think this should read, "These freaks would happily send every Palestinian alive to the gas chambers if they thought it would increase the share price of any of the military companies one iota."
If the USA wanted this to stop, they'd stop supplying weapons and money. Why don't they want this to stop?
"...a retired Israeli major general named Yitzhak Brick about the ongoing IDF assault on Gaza.
“All of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision-guided bombs, all the airplanes and bombs, it’s all from the U.S.,” Brick said. “The minute they turn off the tap, you can’t keep fighting. You have no capability. … Everyone understands that we can’t fight this war without the United States. Period.”"
700 people dead in a 24 hour period. Most of them civilians with no guns or bombs or weapons of any kind.
This isn't a war, it's a massacre.
It's genocide. It's illegal. It's putting the entire world in danger.
And it's devaluing all of our humanity. :( It must be stopped.
How would you suggest we stop US backed wars?
Here's a, not so wild, idea that MIGHT, stop the U.S. aided and abetted Genocide in Gaza. It requires Erdogan, the big dog in Turkey, to put his money where his mouth is, so it might never happen, but I'm throwing it out there to you people of good will here as food for (i.e. a possible way to STOP Zionist Nentanyahu's EVIL Genocidal Rampage) thought. If you think it is a good idea, please pass it on:
🕯️ THOUGHT EXERCISE SCENARIO:
Erdogan of Turkey becomes fed up 😡 with the 💥☠️ Genocide in Gaza perpetrated by the Zionists. He knows full well that the U.S. under Bush Jr. planned, though opted for the WMD LIE instead, to fraudulently obtain a casus belli against Iraq by suckering Saddam into shooting at a U-2 invading Iraqi airspace. Armed with this knowledge of history, he devises a plan to FORCE NATO to demand an immediate, and permanent, 🕊️ CEASEFIRE in Gaza.
Turkey secretly sends a C-130 type aircraft (i.e. Cargo aircraft with a large rear door normally used to supply troops in the field without landing), with FULL Turkish Air Force Markings to CLEARLY identify it as being part of the Turkish Air Force, on a humanitarian mission to Gaza.
Picture of two Jordanian C-130s:
https://defbrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/After-Niger-US-donates-C-130-aircraft-to-Jordan.jpg
The Jordanian Air Force did that for a Jordanian Hospital in Gaza about a month ago, but, according to the IDF, "with 😉 PRIOR IDF approval" 🙄. Of course the IDF would say that fib to save face, wouldn't they? I bring the Jordanian cargo drop to your attention because it IS DOABLE.
C-130 dropping pallets of food and supplies over Bagram Airfield, Kandahar, Afghanistan:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Defense.gov_News_Photo_111123-F-CP197-004_-_Crews_drop_pallets_of_food_and_supplies_from_a_U.S._Air_Force_C-130_Hercules_aircraft_over_Bagram_Airfield_in_Kandahar_Afghanistan_on_Nov._23.jpg/1200px-thumbnail.jpg
This OBVIOUSLY UNARMED Turkish aircraft flies at a few feet above the ocean to avoid being spotted by radar (close to the ocean surface a radar noise called "sea return" makes all return clutter from wave tops nearly impossible to spot a low flyng aircraft UNLESS there is no wave activity - IF the sea is choppy, you are masked by by waves = invisible - I was an ATC Radar Controller - I know this stuff), then pops up at the beach over Gaza.
After quickly reaching a predetermined location of desperately hungry and injured Palestinian men, women and children, parachute drops several pallets of hospital supplies and food, but then gets 🚨 shot down by an IDF fighter plane on the way out.
Erdogan, rapidly informed of this by the U. S. AND the smug IDF, feigns outrage at the downing of the cargo C-130 by the IDF, though part of his secret plan counted on the IDF brutally attacking and downing it.
According to NATO, that would constitute an attack on a NATO member, which REQUIRES that ALL OTHER NATO members defend Turkey against, in this case, Israel! 👀
Israel is NOT a member of NATO. An IDF deliberate act of war by shooting down an unarmed Turkish military aircraft would, according to the NATO Charter, AUTHORIZE Turkey to, uh, 😡 respond, would it not? 😕
Now Erdogan proceeds to the second phase of his plan to put ALL of NATO (i.e. Genocide Joe BIDEN et al) in a 👉'CEASEFIRE OR ELSE' 👈 BOX, along with the 👿 Zionists.
Turkey, beyond demanding that Israel, or the U.S. Naval Assets in the area, rescue the C-130 crew that parachuted out of their unarmed aircraft as it was attacked, does not move a military muscle. 😇😁
What then? Erdogan can legally claim that Israel MUST be 🦅 treated like Iraq or/and Lybia were 🦍 treated. Of course 🐍 Netanyahu would claim the IDF fighter aircraft had the right to self defense from all those pallets "full of weapons for Hamas" that the "hostile" C-130 dropped...
Without skipping a bold faced BS beat, Netanyahu would soberly and confidently assert that the IDF fighter aircraft "defending Palestinians from Hamas terrorist pallet aggression" obtained convincing, certain, and undeniable gun camera video evidence that the C-130 was really a "disguised Iranian aircraft". Everyone who isn't a terrorist sympathizing antisemite knows Iranians don't know how to paint Turkish Air Force markings.... "We have certain, irrefutable and undeniable recordings of the pilots speaking Iranian. That IRANIAN TERRORIST aircraft is capable of carrying a nuke! This is an existential threat to Israel! All humanity is in danger! NATO must attack Iran immediately!" 👀 🤦♂
NOTE: Whenever you hear Netanyahu, or any other Zionist, speak, remember their ONE IRON RULE: Logic is an Enemy and Truth is a Menace.
Would all this, besides exposing NATO hypocrisy on steroids, cause NATO unity to crumble? We can only hope so.
Scott Ritter 🗽: "NATO is an empty shell, use Ukraine & Israel as vehicles for a big war Russian H@mas"
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg1510/#msg1510
I don't know. The only thing I can think of is there is a continuing groundswell of dissent from the peons - and/or someone who has real power/wealth decides to actually do something about it. Until then, it appears the massacres will keep going.
The only thing I can imagine is if the money runs dry, if the dollar crashes and no foreign nation will buy our sovereign debt then the war machine will have no fuel. I am afraid the CBDC strategy from the Fed is designed to side step the crashing dollar and allow the hellish party to continue.
Seems to me this is "the new normal" of the moment. Once we are used to it, they'll move it some more. Imo, the endgame is the hunger games.
The target is Gaza, the target audience is north america and europe..
Please see my comment, Bob.
Another January 6th.
The Jan 6th false flag was intentionally targeted at the citizen dissenter to send the message that if you rise up against us in even the slightest way we will jail you and your family. A public voice of dissent was just arrest in LA (Siaka Massaquoi) for misdemeanors on Jan 6th. Evidence that they continue to use the threat of J6 prosecution to suppress dissent.
Interesting Caitlin's comment about them being prepared to send all the Palestinians to the gas chambers - I have a photo of a wall in Hebron on which there is sprayed graffiti reading "Arabs to the Gas Chambers"
Classified Docs Reveal Massacres of Palestinians in '48 – and What Israeli Leaders Knew https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-12-09/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/classified-docs-reveal-deir-yassin-massacre-wasnt-the-only-one-perpetrated-by-isra/0000017f-e496-d7b2-a77f-e79772340000
They would probably use proper gas chambers this time around.
https://x.com/DomeLord/status/1731954198927880268?s=20
Who wrote that on the wall? Were you there?
Well, it probably wasn’t a dead Palestinian infant , pal.
It never cross your mind that it could be a Jew.
Wasn’t I implying that it WAS?
😁😆
Thank you in that case. I didn't get it:)
what difference does it make who wrote it there anyway? hate messages are hate messages
I think the very definition of hate speech hangs on who says it to whom.
The long and rich history, Jamenta, of the contemporary genocides of the cultured, cultivated Europeans, The Americans and the Brits.
https://les7eb.substack.com/p/genocide-and-economics
A massacre created and carried out by Israel. I don't think Netanyahu's attempt at genocide benefits the US. America may not care what happens to the Palestinians, but we have nothing to gain by the carnage Netanyahu has, and continues to inflict on the people of Gaza. Israel may service our needs in many ways, but this is not one of them. Certainly it increases tension among Middle Eastern countries like Turkey who on a number of occasions condemned Israel's actions, and it also helps to further destabilize the region. It also absolves Netanyahu's actions on a number of levels. He is the one who cultivated Hamas since neither wants a two state solution, and I am not going to let him and his right wing government off the hook and not take full responsibility for the carnage they have inflicted and will continue to inflict on the people of Palestine.
But.. don't you see Fran, they - the US and Israel - are partners in crime. One supplies the arms and the other carries out the carnage. The mafia boss is not absolved of the crime done by the hired gun. They are both culpable.
The tragedy is how long is the rest of the world going to just look on and let the genocide of a people happen.
That's my question too.
I cannot imagine voting for any Leader in the world who does not condemn this.
As for India it's already nearing the point of a facist dictatorship but Biden loves Modi. India could be very important here, they have close ties with Israel it just takes 1 big country to turn away and then all the other yellow belly swamp creatures will too.
Please more leaders DO something. How can they sit and even know this is happening.
People forget how much control Israel has over the US. Would Netanyahu have come to America and pranced into the WH confronting Obama, on his Iran deal if they didn't? Then remember no American politician is safe from AIPAC and it's wrath. You have a bunch of neocons in the Biden White House and they are also calling the shots. Why is it in the interest of the US that no two state solution is found in Gaza? Israel is not as bad off and dependent as it once was on the good old USA. The one state solution and the carnage belongs to Israel. The devastation it wrought cannot help the US's relationship with any country in the Middle East. Remember that Israel serves our interests, and that's why it has so many nuclear weapons, our base in the ME. Then Israel is right in the middle of all those oil routes. Not to mention the neocons have quite a bit of influence in the Biden administration since they slipped on over during the Trump years, therefore the war in Ukraine.
While I can agree there is a certain amount of political control exerted by Israel on the US when it come down to the pentagon and CIA they pursue their own goals.
Suggesting that Biden's admin was infiltrated by neo-cons is delusional, he has been in office for 40 years and has been directly involved in every war during those years, Biden is a neo-con and always has been, so is Obama.
NotBob do you live in America? Your last comment tells me you do not. "Ambassador Victoria Nuland was designated Acting Deputy Secretary by President Biden effective July 29, 2023. She also serves as Under Secretary for Political Affairs and was senate-confirmed in that position in April 2021" Remember her in the Obama administration deciding who should be the president of Ukraine after the US backed coup. Blinken is a neocon, our secretary of state. Just in case you need further confirmation of what I am saying go to the link below. I can truly say, so much for your delusions.
https://uwidata.com/15389-neocons-and-liberal-hawks-in-bidens-team/
Yeah, I have been an American since I was born here in 1963, I have studied history for several decades now and I see what you are trying to do. You want off load the responsibility for the war mongering of presidents by blaming it on their appointees.
I'm sorry but I have no quarter for the mass murdering office of the president, it makes no difference which president you select, we have been at or started a new war during every single presidency regardless of party or excuse.
Read the book "Obamas Wars" - it details the heinous and unnecessary attacks committed under the Obama Administration during his 2 terms. He was the only two term president to have started wars during both terms. Biden was his right hand man during the 7 nations he invaded and started wars in.
They are both deep blue neo-cons that have no redeeming values.
Excellent, Indu, and of course we benefit from these wars. Our entire economy rests on selling arms because we have decimated our industrial base, thanks to the Clintons and Oblahma, and must feed the maw of weapons industry. Plus, in East Asia, aka, the Middle East, we are trying to draw in Iran so that we can then try out our nukes to see if they work and then be able to build new ones.
Israel and the US colluded on the false flag of Oct 7th, the attack from gaza justified Israel genocide of gaza, the attacks from Syria justified US returning to bombing Syria and justifying war with Iran. Both nations achieved their goals of fomenting wars of opportunity based on the actions of Hamas - cui bono - The US and Israel benefited !
But it does serve US goals, the US wants increased tensions in the middle east, the US wants conflict and death as it destabilizes our enemies. The US would watch the world burn if it mean it could secure its hegemony.
As I said before., I was very active in the antiwar movement, and you are right our agenda is world wide domination, no matter how many lives we have to slaughter, no matter how many countries we need to destroy. Ukraine is a very good example of that.
There is lots to gain. Who is talking about the failure in Ukraine any more? And Hunters influence trading? And Joe's multiple lies about being involved in those business dealing with Ukraine? (And no, because I always have to say this - I am not a MAGA person.)
" The White House's decision last week to abstain from voting on a United Nations Security Council resolution that demanded Israel stop settlement construction on occupied Palestinian territory infuriated Benjamin Netanyahu, further straining an already tense relationship between the Israeli prime minister and President Obama.
The decision to abstain from voting broke with decades of US policy that shunned UN resolutions which condemned the settlements.
Netanyahu took to Twitter to express his displeasure with the US, namely arguing that the UN was not the venue to tackle the issue of the settlements."
This SOB does what he wants, and Biden with the neocons at his back doesn't have the guts to put him in his place.
My point was that the article, or my interpretation of it, does not place full responsibility for the carnage taking place in Gaza with Netanyahu, Israel, and I'm not buying that. Israel has in recent years gained more independence from the US and doesn't need us the way it once did It can pretty much take care of itself. However it is our base in the Middle East and perhaps she has more control over us then vice versa.
I don't see it that way. I think Joe Biden has been a liar and a warmonger his entire life. He knows exactly what he is doing and is pretending he's against this ongoing genocide only to cover his political ass. They are still supplying Israel with all the arms they need for this obscene slaughter.
My point is that if one thinks they can call a president in the US and tell him to call off the genocide in Gaza they are mistaken. Our political system is not that simple, by any means. There are many operatives that determine policy at home and abroad. The people of this country have the least say. Biden has been a war monger most of his life and pushed every war during his vice presidency under Clinton and Obama. His position in the Senate as chair of the foreign relations comm allowed him to push his agenda of war in the Middle East down the throats of his fellow democrats. I did not say I like this man, but even if he wanted to call off this genocide, no way. By the way, we're really not a democracy since the voice and interests of it's people are quite secondary to almost everyone else. That we are aligned with Israel seems to surprise a lot of people and I have no idea why, especially when one considers our long history of backing Israel and it's genocidal behavior in the past when it comes to the people of Gaza.
OK I see what you're saying. Haven't been following this thread/debate very closely. I also do wonder if Netanyahu would stop if Joe Biden actually did tell him to. Although it has happened in the past, one wonders if the blood lust of Netanyahu and apparently his even more extremist cabinet would simply disregard the US withdrawing its unconditional support and continue on with the massacre. At this point I'm not at all sure, given just how insane everything has become.
However, currently Joe Biden along with his usual lies and senility - is going along with the massacre - which in itself I find is an inhuman abomination - and discredits any kind of moral stance by the US. This US president and his cabinet have done more damage to the US's standing than any president I can think of. It's truly unthinkable he pretends he is for human rights and is trying to protect "civilian" life while at the same time continuing to supply Israel with arms and not forcibly and vocally in public removing his support of this Internationally rogue criminal nation. And make no mistake about it - Israel has become a rogue criminal state by any moral standard - given its current massacre of the Palestinian population. 700 mostly unarmed civilians killed in 24 hours - is not defensible - or justifiable whatsoever. It is a human atrocity. Comparable to the Nazi atrocities in the 1940s. One cannot condemn what is taking place forcibly enough - and it is horrifying to see the US enabling it.
Yitzhak Brick begs to disagree.
I don't recall saying that, nor do I agree we want Israel perpetrating a genocide in Gaza.
I know that you are not genocidal.
Brick's point is that Israel cannot wage its war without constant ongoing American support. That is why literally hundreds of US military cargo aircraft have flown to Israel since October 7. It's safe to say that they are not delivering Amazon Prime.
Moreover, and Brick doesn't mention this, but the United States provides Israel with diplomatic support, bullying any dissenting countries into submission. This is why Europeans are by and large disgusted with Israel, and Arabs are furious, but their rulers dare not do anything as long as Israel has unlimited and unconditional American support.
No, your point is to provide cover for Biden Dems and US Empire.
You are mistaken, and don't know what you are talking about, and I do remember from former encounters the same truth applied.
You mean to contradict caitlin's point of the us empire being extremely responsible. still a loyal subject, aye?
I am expressing my opinion and as far as I know I am entitled to do that whether it contradicts Caitlin or not. It is you who are the loyal subject.,Groupie.
Well Fran, then IsraHell can take care of itself without billions of our taxpayer dollars every year.
That we support the carnage Israel is perpetrating in Gaza and even glad for it, is absurd, and the claim it benefits us is equally absurd, but I've learned from being here a couple of other times one cannot challenge Caitlin's claims unless one is willing to defend one's position repeatedly, and too often the opposition comes with insults. How we benefit is beyond me, and Israel's actions have already generated stronger ties between Middle Eastern countries whom we do not perceive as our enemies, like Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. Yes Israel is strategically located along our oil routes, and yes she is our nuclear base in the ME, etc, but I don't think we are glad for, or benefit from Netanyahu's long term agenda of wanting a one state solution that is obtained through total destruction and death of the Palestinians people for all the world to see, and pursuing this ill conceived mindset if anything lets Netanyahu and his extreme right wing party off the hook. They are culpable.
A good call! Round up the Zionists!! Every single man Jack of them. Surprising perhaps but I actually volunteer to defend them in court. We should examine every last bit of why/how this madness has happened & I'm absolutely determined to put ritual unanaesthetised 8 day old baby mutilation [circumcision] & the role of rabid adrenochrome addicted rabbis* under the world's spotlight.
*Metzitzeh B'peh https://x.com/DomeLord/status/1731960049742794868?s=20
Have a wander around the area of "Cluster B personality disorders". I contend that there is huge damage done and because all the males in the entire tribal team have been subjected to this identical barbaric & brutalising ritual, they are all vulnerable to the supremacist thoughts constantly instilled into them by some of their alleged holy men acting as divine thought leaders and that's over the centuries of course even from Bronze Age times so it's fairly well ingrained. I'm sure the adrenochrome these 'holy' men gorge on ultimately drives them insane. They're driving this shitshow and the latest fruits of their megalomania are on naked display in Gaza and the West Bank while other areas of their long lived and desperate malevolence are across the planet but are much more hidden like a silent cancer. I rail against the unhinged rabbis and their actions and certainly not of the Jewish people, male *&* female as a whole, who are really the primary victims in all of this. I'm suggesting society's scientists and whoever else should put their clever compassionate hats on and do some proper R&D on stem cells with a view to reconstructing the [God-given] foreskin for those who desire it. Apart from that, (sorry for the outrageous pun), I have no skin in this game & have no personal interest in this area.
Hi Jamenta
On the evening “news” last night, there wasn’t one mention of the war. Nada. Zip. Nuthin’.
I guess if you can’t find something supposedly “positive” to say about IsraHell, you just ignore the situation altogether and pretend it isn’t happening.
It is sick how so-called "news" run by a few billionaires now are nothing but propaganda outlets - like something out of George Orwell's 1984. It's shocking just how much these people lie to us and get away with it everyday. And we know these massive media outlets now are tied to the State - which is by definition a type of fascism - when corporations and State work as one entity. We are ruled by lies and money. And now our same rulers will massacre entire populations before our eyes and claim they are doing so for freedom, and human rights. It really has become an Orwellian nightmare.
The only word I'd remove is "now". It's been like that always.
Orwell's 1984 applied to then Britain just like it's applicable to any society of significant weight in need of tight control to exercise that weight.
I would disagree to some extent. There were some American laws on the books to require a level of objectivity in our news broadcasts. A few decades ago however, these laws were removed, watered down - along with anti-trust laws. And the laws for legalized bribery of American politicians were also watered down - where monied interests are now running rampant over all aspects of American life.
The only thing that stands between the obscenely wealthy completely running a society is a working representative government. Which is why in the last number of decades there has been a concerted effort by the American wealthy to propagandize Americans into assuming government by default is evil in itself. That is a lie. Government itself is not evil. It can be made to be evil - just as it can be made to be good. I do not subscribe to the Ayn Randian ethos that all government is bad. Nor am I an anarchist.
If you think it's bad now, get rid of any kind of representative government - the billionaires will be fucking you and your children in the ass even more each day. Ordinary workers will be treated as slaves and nothing more. We're already moving in that direction because the wealthy now have corrupted and bought out our supposed representative government.
The problem we have in the US is not the government, but the obscenely wealthy, so-called "job providers" - who blame everyone but themselves (especially the poor) for the state of the country.
There might have been some laws and maybe they were even respected (remember Kissinger's "Unlawful we do immediately..." - applicable on any level) UNTIL the situation called for their removal or castration to some extent. That is, the control agenda worked even with those laws in the books.
Not sure why you referenced government, but since you did - any government must serve the ruling class which will make sure that its form is deceiving enough for the public so it believes its benevolence. That is, governments are just another tool of the rulers. It's much better to have that as a buffer to pull the wool over the public, than straight up military police on every corner.
I am not as cynical as you are regarding governments. Civilizations can and have flourished (and still do) with moral and mostly uncorrupt governments.
The ideology government is never any good only serves the sociopathic rich even more. Less government only gives them even more power.
The problem is not government in of itself; it is government that is corrupt. And I don't believe government is necessarily always corrupt. That is a pushed lie (by the wealthy) I don't believe in.
Ralph Nader knows the word "carnage" but unlikely he'd apply it to Israel.
Nader urged us to vote for Genocide Joe. He's done a lot of good things, but similar I would say to Chomsky, he's become a bit addled in his old age. A reminder that no one is perfect.
As an older teacher used to say to me, "No one is perfect! There is no such thing as perfection. Not even the Gods are perfect!" That was many moons ago.
One thing puzzles me - as people get older they should start caring less and speak more truth. But I guess for some people that's really their truth, and it's ugly.
As far as non-perfection - sure. But in one's profession it should always be in one direction: improvement. In physical craft when one reaches an age of disability - they just stop doing it. In mental should be the same.
I never was big on Dylan's, "Do not go gentle into that good night". Even though it's a remarkable poem, I believe the second half of one's life is more about letting go from the ego centeredness of our youth, more of a quiet reflection and aftertaste. It's a mistake to keep trying to hold onto youth. But it's also a mistake to assume the second half of life doesn't have a meaningful value on its own, but entirely different than raging on as if one is still in your 20s.
Tangential from Nader - but come to think of it, it is a kind of dilemma of our time - to hang on to power and youth as long as one possibly can, as if that is all life is for. Take for example Joe Biden, or the rest of the failing cronies in DC - McConnell etc. Or the silliness of some prominent actors/actresses taking roles suited for 20 year olds. It doesn't work - and it isn't meant to work.
What's left of my 75 year old ego has cleared everything away to deal supremely aggressively against my latest malady - cancer. With my immune system now rendered almost hopping mad against abnormal cells with the assistance of a [low level] fruitarian diet, I'm fighting this all the way up to success or final oblivion or whatever else there is behind that inevitable curtain! Lol! My hope, jamenta, is that a huge after-show party, a feast of eternal friends no less, would be a superb sequel to life here on Earth but no-one lives to tell the tale! Not even any pope, archbishop, or Allamah. No-one. Your guess is equally as good as mine or Dylan's!
My condolences with your struggle. I find the scientific work of cardiologist Dr. Pim van Lommel regarding NDE's hopeful. But that's just my own thoughts on a possible afterlife. Like you - I really have no idea. Although I find it rationally hard to accept consciousness itself is just a random meaningless accident along with reality. The mystery of "Why Existence" remains - even now, with our most advanced scientific discoveries and scientists. There is also the case of Mrs. Piper, studied by William James and other scholars of the time - which points to unusual, non-local attributes of consciousness.
Nevertheless, we must value human life, whether consciousness persists beyond the body or not - is my take (still). If we are spiritual beings at all - then we are meant to be human and value human life, or I think we likely wouldn't be here. Take care.
Israel is a Terrorist State that controls U.S. Govt. and others. Cancel them now for the world. STOP ISRAELI USA GENOCIDE again.
How many servicemen have died, sacrificed or given theirs lives for the USA? Well, I too am now willing to give up my life - if it puts an end to American invasions and killing of millions throughout the entire world once and for all! The US is never going to stop until we are finally attacked, and deservingly so! LOOK at these photo's and tell me you too would not be willing to give up your life - if it prevented such atrocities from ever happening again - it is beyond unconscionable.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-gaza-and-the-anti-semitism-hoax/
You are 100%
Until this kind of horrific slaughter comes to our shores we can stay completely disassociated from the horror.
Here's the best part about all of this - we are NOT the worlds super power anymore! We also do not have the best military in the world. For arguments sake how much artillery have we shipped elsewhere? Last I heard, we were down to about 450 thousand troops - one of the lowest numbers ever not to mention the lowest recruitment ever! Lets take it a step further and how many absconded from the military rather than take the clot shots? Which is why they are now begging and pleading with them to return with back pay etc.! Gets even worse - we now also have the highest number of disabled pilots from the clot shots! Sooah, you can have the greatest weaponry in the world but without the manpower to operate it you're basically shit out luck. Therefore we could not be at a worse deficit then we are now in other words ripe for an attack! BTW the caliber of our military is probably also the worst it's ever been. They're desperate for recruits and have scraped the very bottom of the lowest of the low. Almost 70% are overweight or OBESE! Now compare that to Russia and tell me again how we're the best!
The only good thing I can find that relates to your excellent points is that Israel was the first nation to get vaccinated for COVID, few people were allowed to opt out. Sooner or later that's going to reduce their military forces, if it hasn't already.
Hi BJ
I would gladly give my life to spare that of one Palestinian child.
Apparently a brave woman set herself afire on the steps of an IsraHelli consulate in Atlanta. She is in critical condition.
She had wrapped herself in a Palestinian flag.
I’d prefer to turn a gun on myself, and curse the steps of Congress so that my blood remains there for eternity.
I'm not sure of the "setting oneself ablaze" protest - I mean don't know what that has ever accomplished - in fact if anything it makes you appear somewhat unstable to say the least!
My personal point was - if we are finally attacked in retaliation for all the atrocities we have committed throughout the entire world - and rightfully so mind you (in personal opinion)
then I say it's worth it if it puts an end to the US hegemony! I would be willing to die and certainly not be spending one billion dollars on a campaign claiming Anti-Americanism!!
Have you seen the total bullshit articles the NY post has been putting out today? This is unbelievable - but again Israel is spending one billion on this campaign. BTW I just read an article that Hamas only killed 200 soldiers (the one's who were in charge of Gaza) and took another 230 hostages. It was the IDF that killed the rest as now proven which is why Israel is doing all of this! Hamas was given the order not to kill civilian which is why they video taped everything. They filmed the Israel's who were present saying and admitting the IDF came in and shot up everything It really was a brilliant move on Hamas's part when you consider 95% of the world is standing in solidarity with the Palestinians! Here's the NY Post headlines:
1) Starved Israeli hostages were drugged, fed before release to look calm and happy on camera: 'Psychological torture'
2) Jewish students at Harvard, MIT, NYU and Penn facing death threats, assault: ‘Back to 1939’
I passed about 30 synagogues today and made sure there was not ONE police car in front of any of them! NO increased security - NOTHING!
"...the US empire is run by sociopaths who only care about global domination, and nonstop violence from Israel is a key component in the domination of a crucial geostrategic region on this planet."
This is what's wrong with the world in a nutshell. US Empire. Sociopaths who care only for global domination. Violence is the tool they use to get what they want. That's why we've got to shut down the military-industrial complex, turn off the pipeline of arms to genocidal maniac states like Israel, and march all the sociopaths off to the guillotines. The world isn't safe with them around. The spirits of Palestinian children bombed in their cradles tells us this is so.
Every time Israel drops a bomb, Blinken"s consulting firm makes $ thousands, Lloyd Austin makes $ thousands through his employer, Raytheon, and Hillary has an orgasm.
Don't want to nit-pick but in her case it's multiple *wargasms*.
The capital of the US quietly moved from DC to Tel Aviv without anyone noticing.
It was shifted years ago.
The shift started after Bush Sr’s presidency. Not one potus since has had the power to make that phone call.
How sick is this country to continuously stick our nose in anywhere it doesn’t belong?
This entire fiasco over the last 2 months is totally insane!
A politician is akin to a rapist and a child molester - it's all about power and control! The worst mental illness
And all the $$ they can take under the table
Dump them. Remove also their political jargon that has been developed to keep everyone else out. We do not need these bankster-owned Zionist monsters. Direct democracy is the remedy. When the public & experts decide everything is when we can all relax and watch our human race come into peaceful bloom on this gorgeous planet at long last!
As has been the entire Ukrainian fiasco!
I agree wholeheartedly. My country is being run by sociopathic scumbags. But the American people continue to vote these monsters into office time and time again. They(not all) continue to believe these politicians are going to save us and that the only option is to vote for the lesser of two evils. How can you vote for the lesser of two evils when one monster is just as evil as the other monster?! I used to believe my country was the best in the world, but not anymore. I know it’s the politicians in D.C., not the people, but the American people do put these assholes in office and some very dear to me still think that these politicians speak for us. Well, they definitely don’t speak for me. This is a GENOCIDE!!😢
As support for the War On Afghanistan dwindled, the Pentagon commissioned a study which concluded that the undecided voters were most likely to favor continuing the war if it was couched as a struggle for women's rights. Hence, public messaging shifted, which is why we heard politicians and journalists express a touching concern for Muh Afghan Women And Girls became ubiquitous. This in turn allowed that particular grift to continue for a few years more.
And we all remember the lurid allegations of rape used to sell the War On Libya the War On Ukraine.
In the last few days, public messaging on Gaza has shifted to unsupported allegations of mass rape, even though nobody has produced any rape kits or other evidence. But the MSM and politicians have changed their line almost simultaneously.
Right on cue.
We need to all challenge the basic assumptions which fortify this disaster. Such as "Israel has a right to exist."
Acrually, no it does not. The idea of a modern day "Israel" is in fact ludicrous.
https://phillipbadger.substack.com/p/yes-virginia-there-really-is-no-reason
An invading army has no rights to defend itself against resistance. None whatsoever. I also dismiss Zionist israel's 'right to exist'. Religion belongs in churches, mosques and synagogues and most certainly not in statehood or politics.
Israel is nothing more than a more brazen extension of the US War Machine. Israel IS the US.
The U$ofA is where israel keeps its other weapons.
After seeing this 48 second youtube video, I am not so sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKAXy6YGgBQ
The US is now doing the thing where it pretends it doesn't really approve while sending thousands more massive bombs to Israel like those bombs could be used for anything other than killing tens of thousands more people
So, the US is responsible for what is happening in Gaza. Could the fact that 90% of Biden's cabinet holds dual citizenship (Israeli-American) have anything to do with that?
You mean... ...this is true? https://www.gtvflyers.com/every-single-aspect-of-the-biden-administration-is-jewish/
Love your Red Pills DomeLord!
One good link deserves another...
https://craignelsen.substack.com/p/the-hate-fungus
Yes, the Bolsheviks. Much of their doings are not in the easily available history books. Never mind, here's a full length motion picture episode of Bolshevik history but be warned that it's pretty graphic in parts: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QtLvxZ9d0yEY/?list=hmv3AI5oVvJm&randomize=false
There are more parts to the story but this one is a good [eye] opener.
Yes, I think I've seen that one. Very interesting to listen to the testimony of some of the people who spent time in the German labour camps... not the kind of interviewees who would ever make it on Spielberg's casting couch.
"These freaks would happily send every Palestinian alive to the gas chambers if they thought it would advance their strategic interests one iota."
I think this should read, "These freaks would happily send every Palestinian alive to the gas chambers if they thought it would increase the share price of any of the military companies one iota."
thank you for another great article
Too many Team D and Team R cultists make excuses for Biden and Trump.
They need to own this.
If the USA wanted this to stop, they'd stop supplying weapons and money. Why don't they want this to stop?
"...a retired Israeli major general named Yitzhak Brick about the ongoing IDF assault on Gaza.
“All of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision-guided bombs, all the airplanes and bombs, it’s all from the U.S.,” Brick said. “The minute they turn off the tap, you can’t keep fighting. You have no capability. … Everyone understands that we can’t fight this war without the United States. Period.”"
Maybe they are afraid to stop it. think of all the money they would lose. And this "alleged" statement from Netanyahu in 1990.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKAXy6YGgBQ