"The Zionist ideological framework which birthed Israel in the first place is what has been guiding its political course this entire time".
Which is all you need to know. It ain't Judaism; it ain't some ancient scriptural imperative; it ain't the fiery breath of Yahweh shooting down to cleanse the land for his (her?) chosen people. It's an ideology of settler colonialist totalitarian horror that rivals so many other violent self-affirming narcissistic nationalist movements that have killed millions throughout the sewers of human history.
So Violent. So ideological. So stupid. Blaming world conflict on a leftist BDS dogma of Oppression, apartheid and settler Colonialism. It’s almost as if you were destroyed attending an elite University ;). You are bedfellows with unhinged fundamental Islamist that state the following when it comes to Jews and Israel who you see as an apartheid state. Crazed. Your ideological teammates Hamas. The Hamas Foundational Covenant.
- The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),
- The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,
- The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land.
There are NO HOLY wars. From any angle. To hell with your pabulum about elite universities; if you need to fling that rhetoric at me, you have nothing but the same old bullshit. I am not invested in destruction of anything, but rather resonate with the experiences of Miko Peled in "The General's Son", a book you might consider reading. If Miko's father Matti, an Israeli general, recognized that a truly democratic single state was the solution and if father and son were both able to form close relationships and dialog with Palestinians in an amicable fashion, it is clear that that pathway is a defined potential route. But the hardheads in Likud, just like the hardhead Neocons in the US are incapable of thinking in that dimension. Perhaps so are the leaders of Hamas, but I have no personal knowledge because their bloviations aren't easy to come by as are those of Bibi et al. Unless I'm misunderstanding (forgive me if I am), so apparently are you (incapable of thinking in that dimension). And if I'm embroiled in leftist dogma for opposing braindead motherfuckers like Lindsay Graham and the others in the thoroughly corrupt US government who see Israel as its bully boy and aircraft carrier to sustain a US foreign policy of global mayhem, then I plead guilty to detesting my own government; which, by association must imply that I also hate those it unreservedly supports like that of Israel. Tough shit if that's too much for you. Again, I don't advocate for the "complete destruction" of anything or anyone except for maniacal fools driven by dogmas they pull out of their asses or some ancient texts (same thing) without any room in their stultified brains for alternative solutions. One state, equal rights of citizenship. If that isn't it, I don't know the answer; certainly not, however the status quo. And by the way, I don't apply the ad hominem "stupid" to anyone I don't really know, so in conclusion and in reference to that part of your comment, fuck you. Can I be any more specific?
No, not unless the citizens of Israel get the hell rid of Likud politicians and put someone compassionate in power; but I grant you that is unlikely. However, I also don't foresee the return of the West Bank settlements to Palestinian occupants or the reconstruction/ repopulation of Gaza, which if I were Palestinian, would seem to me to be minimal requirements for two states (perhaps I'm wrong to project that assumption). Bloody mess, of course, that Western governments helped to create and sustain. Wish I had a better answer, but of course, I don't.
I’m like Vin, a one state that is shared equally by all. It may be a pipe dream but I can’t see a 2 state as being fair. Who gets Jerusalem, for instance? Eva Bartlett talks about this in her writings. But the powers that be right now want a 2 state solution as transition. I don’t know. It’s complicated and up to Hamas, I think.
The powers that be are dredging up the long-dead two-state solution that they've only ever paid lip-service to because the genocidal monsters have to pretend they care about the escalated violence in Gaza and the West Bank. The touted two-state solution was never going to be fair to Palestinians, even if it had been a genuine agreement. (It wasn't because Israel continued illegal settlements full bore.)
The only solution is one secular democratic state for Arab Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Any Zionists who couldn't tolerate living peacefully with their neighbors can pick up and move right back to Brooklyn or the Bronx or Russia or wherever they came from.
If it was possible to have a one state that was fully and equally represented by all people's of that regon not just these zi0paths it could be a better solution.. But at this point too much bad blood has been shed.. I see no alternative but the eradication of the state of Israel as a political entity. I hope to see it in my lifetime and despite the carnage this event is doing all the heavy lifting . The Zionist are loossing world support despite their hubris arrogance and delusions. And they are loosing the war despite the blattant desperate unhinged lying of the West.
Agree, Chaz. I used to advocate for two states, but now there can be only ONE state… PALESTINE.
According to military genius Scott Ritter, IsraHell will no longer exist in ten years. I hope it’s sooner than that and like you, I hope to live long enough to see it.
Indeed, Even that war mongering psycopath Kissinger saw the writing on the wall as his frankansteane monster broke its restraints and started a rampage that even no music is able to sooth the pound of flesh it is obsessed with aquiring..
Yes, David, you can, but it may not be worth the effort to do so. I could ask you to support your assertions, but the verifiable supporting facts are readily available for anyone to easily review.
Thus far, it seems unlikely that greater specificity will result in any response other than deflection and direct personal insult laced with profanity. You referred to a viewpoint as "stupid," and the response was conflation of a specific view with a fallacious denigration of person. A good-faith counter-assertion does not appear likely to be forthcoming at this juncture.
Vitriol may not be an adequate substitute for reasoned counterpoint, but it appears to be what is on offer.
Before you run off I have to tell you that I and most here view you as dishonest manipulative and duplicitous. And sins you like calling names. But I'll simply describe your obvious personality that is shared by all Zionists.
And I'm sure you will only proceed to prove all my assertions correct as soon air starts to expell from your pie hole....(or typing claws) Because I have never once seen a Zionist not be an intellectual coward and a liar.
You remind me of that Indian character in little big man movie where he has to walk backward's and do everything in reverse.. Everything you just described that you think Islam is supposed to want to do is exactly what Zionist are actually doing.
And all you did was take the images of what the USA and Israel have helped create as radical Islamist (Isis etc)than used as a means of fostering unrest in Arab countries to justify western interventions and coups of their governments.. So once they commit attrocitys and make statement of Islam's hate of Jews (penned at Langley) you spooks use that as a means to justify your desired ethnic cleansing campaigns.
A clandestine plan cooked up at the CIA and mossad. Because that is how all zi0paths operate..multiple attacks on multiple fronts. And mind control through poision in the well of the unsuspecting western numpty you have indoctrinated for a generation.
You won't admit it but you are proud of those achievements and thus the ability to use their after effects to further demonize your innocent enemy's by lying.
I still prefer the 9/11 one! 2 planes 3 steel framed buildings down at ~free fall speed... And the 2nd that was hit was the 1st coming down. A very difficult to break world record.
Basically yes. The US used 9/11 to bring in homeland security and the "war on terror"; all you are seeing now is the next chapter on that WHICH IS ALREADY happening in the UK, EU, Australia, NZ etc etc. Watch out for false flags across the so called West ... whilst the globalist parasites bring more and more of fighting aged, single, and uneducated morons into our lands..
Who created and funded so called HAMAS ?... OH = Israel Zionists !!!!
Ever thought about how 1 day on October 7th; the most well defended Country in the World, having one of the best militaries, intelligence and infiltrators, allowed 800-1000 baddies to break down an indestructible wall, knock down the defence fences and OH wait; paraglided in (LMFAO) .... without knowing and taking 8 hours to attack back....
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BUT THE NEXT DAY; they knew of all of the terrorist hideouts, tunnels, supply chains over in Gaza ?..... hmmm !!!
What do you think? I find myself depressed over what is going on, and more so because in America they are supporting Netanyahu's genocidal agenda and never acknowledge it for what it is. It goes unchallenged no matter how many deaths, no matter how much destruction even as it began anew today. They say Israel was warned about Hamas and it's intentions a year before, but dismissed it and thought they could never pull it off. Agents observed suspicious behavior who monitored the Gaza border, reported it, but were continuously dismissed. Egypt warned Israel of a Hamas strike days before the attack, and once again ignored. Netanyahu and his extreme right wing government wanted a one state solution and through the years supported Hamas, empowered them, because they didn't want one either. I think they knew this was going to happen, let it happen and found justification for their intended carnage in allowing more then a thousand of it's citizens to be killed lending justification to their destruction of Gaza. No one seems to accept this perspective and feels that Netanyahu injured his career by being caught so off guard. This is a man who encouraged someone to kill Yitzhak Rabin by his incendiary rhetoric, and behavior, even walking in back of a coffin that was suppose to hold his body, and of course someone killed him, and the two state solution. I love Max Blumenthal, but he also felt that Netanyahu was simply caught off guard. Netanyahu no doubt views what is going on now as his greatest achievement.
Do you think they had no idea this was going to happen? It reminded me of the Project for a new American Century where they say all they needed was a New Pearl Harbor, and of course they got that on 9/11. I'm not sure about 9/11, but I feel pretty sure about this.
You are quite right about PNAC. 9/11 was so "effective" at its impact on the propagandized masses because PNAC, way back in 1998, decided that the fascist takeover agenda for the USA needed, as you correctly remembered, another "Pearl Harbor" in order to be successful. They KNEW 9/11 was going to happen, at least 6 months before it happened, because of YEARS of careful planning for the sequence of destructive events, including that "airliner" that magically shrunk to the size of a missle when it hit the Pentagon, the military drone versions of airliners to crash into the two tallest WTC towers (NOTE: they KNEW that the military drone versions of airliners would be unable to bring the WTC towers down - the airliners were for propaganda optics), AND obtaining the services of Netanyahu's tight lipped Zionist Team of explosive demolition experts to rig WTC 1, 2 AND 7 for explosive demolition. By a strange coincidence, Netanyahu was in NYC on 9/11, the same day the dancing Israelis were filmed joyously filming the burning WTC towers....
Perhaps Gore would have delayed their MIC Fascist Dream Come True for a few years, but I doubt that because the MIC has owned the Duopoly for at least half a century, if not more. At any rate, as soon as Bush and Cheney took office. The BIG GREEN LIGHT for the "New Pearl Harbor" to take place was given.
Final thoughts about what is REALLY GOING ON in Netanyahu's brain:
📢 Social Darwinist Ideology is the pseudo-scientific exercise in the erudite, but mendacious, defense of the morally bankrupt modus operandi/vivendi commonly known as, 'Might Equals Right'.
Of course this socially destructive worldview is as old as humanity, but it was Darwin's "PRESERVATION OF FAVOURED RACES IN THE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE" legerdemain that convinced ethics challenged Academia into accepting it as, not only the privilege, but the "Evolution Theory based Obligation" of we-the-apex-predators to do our BEST to 😈 "rid the world of the lesser" races.
Netanyahu, a member in good standing of the Social Darwinists 'R' US, knows his MORALLY BANKRUPT "Darwinian Duty"....
It will take me a bit of time to read, and think about this again. Interesting that only yesterday I was thinking about Darwin, and whose book, On The Origin of the Species, I read when I was sixteen, and remember feeling that through killing and death animals evolved, became stronger, dominant, and I wasn't happy with the whole idea of it.
I knew about PNAC before 9/11 and knew who the primary signatories were, like Cheney, and Rumsfeld and Jeff Bush. It also made me suspicious of the presidential electoral results in 2001. I didn't want to pursue it, but I did become very active in the anti-war movement, which of course died out and had little to any impact on changing anything. Disturbing to say the least that a country would kill it's own citizens to bring about their agenda. Thanks, lot of things to think about.
There is no way in hell this was not all deliberately planned - look how auspicious the retaliation has been for Israel albeit the world wide enmity
I find myself wondering how many generations did it take Germany to repair it's reputation and don't think Israel ever will - tourism is one of the largest sources of income - antisemitism will be the least of their worries in comparison to the boycotts
Christian’s would never boycott the “holy land” no matter who was living there and who died lately. As long as it’s safe they’ll go walk “where Jesus walked”. Christians are vile.
Hopefully your right, but unfortunately that affects the people and not those that caused it to happen. I want him to be found out, and even if I'm wrong he should be held accountable for such a mass slaughter. Not that the loss of life of adults don't bother me, but the children, the babies really do.
"in America they are supporting Netanyahu's genocidal agenda and never acknowledge it for what it is" - now extrapolate this to almost every other conflict in the world - certainly those created by America - and you get your USA's proud standing. The lying bastard shiny hill occupant that it is.
Not to mention our 20th century wars, but my real question is whether it's a false flag operation, that is, Netanyau knew there would be an assault, and let.it happen.
A PR nightmare for Israhell on the evening news last night.
A female Israeli soldier repeatedly told the government that she and others had observed unusual Hamas activities in Gaza for months. Their warnings were ignored.
Which just goes to show ya that Satanyahu was willing to sacrifice his own in order to begin obliterating Gaza.
If this doesn’t scream FALSE FLAG then I don’t know what the fuck does.
I know, and not only that, but Israel was informed of Hamas's plan in detail the year before and dismissed it because, well they said, Hamas is not that sophisticated to come up with a plan like that, and Egypt did inform them about an attack several days before Oct 7. I have no doubt they knew it was going to happen, let it happen, and it provided them the reason they were looking for to clear the land of Palestine, either by expulsion, or death.
by the use of "Sock Puppet" dummy variable propaganda technique.
So...for this they can pick some small super wealthy country and say "O look "sock puppet country A" (a wealth middle eastern country of a few 100K people, per capita income $600K+. already a US client state), is holding peace talks bw the 2 sides Israel and H". Why stop there, They can even sock-puppet (using this phrase as a verb) side "H". WHo's gonna verify that talks are really ON bw "H" and Israel? I mean it's all laughable. And clearly I don't trust main stream US news. It's bloody laughable.
"The Zionist ideological framework which birthed Israel in the first place is what has been guiding its political course this entire time, and that ideology can only steer the country towards racism, apartheid, fascism, theft, murder and genocide."
She nailed it but not the ICC. They’ve just decided that “they both are” is the answer to who is committing genocide. Guess that pretty well closes the doors to justice for Nuttyyahoo. I wish BRICS+ would set up an alternative international court as they are setting up alternative trade relationships.
Opps. I was wrong on this—it’s not the ICC, it’s a former ICC prosecutor. I’ll read more carefully next time. Still, he’s clearly an AIPAC toady in a high place!
Even the mainstream media has reported babies dying in incubators and dozens of children being killed every day by the bombings. What is really depressing for me is that it is so obvious that this is wrong, immoral, cold, heartless, and murderous. And so many people just choose to close their eyes to it. What kind of a world is this that we are living in? What kinds of animals are humans? Other animals such as dogs, cats, monkeys, rats, mice etc are much more admirable than we are.
It eats me alive that the entire world has not come to a screeching halt to put an end to this. I am sick to my stomach. The carnage. The world stopped for 9-11 and this is a billion times worse. I think what pisses me off most is saying they hated Jews when in fact they hated being tortured an imprisoned for years - which is WHY they retaliated on 10/07. I am so sick and tired of that lie being spewed. What abused person doesn't eventually attack it's abuser?
I’ve even heard Jewish women—hopefully Zionists—talk that way about Palestinian children. So staggeringly repulsive it has to be a mental illness of some sort.
Omygod! Just reading that scared me! I have a feeling that what I dish out I get back and if that’s true, I don’t want to be standing near this bitch when her chicken comes home to roast.
Definitely scary! Those thoughts belong in the lock-up wards of high-security psychiatric hospitals rather than being uttered close to government circles. Seems the Zionist folk are trying to outdo each other in twisted sadistic supremacist state-of-the-art hate scenarios that do have consequences.
you didn't really. I must have jumped to conclusions. I cannot think why you would want to put anyone with bonobos to punish the human. It would be more of a punishment for bonobos who are a non violent, seemingly non punitive group of apes. They are quite amazing and I would never impose a violent thinking person like that woman on them.
The labels matter little. You might as well say it's American Exceptionalism™ proclamations that inspire her. Or master race Arian supremacy ideas. It's like left-right false dichotomy to keep the plebes busy and distracted.
Evil is a much better characterization. All-encompassing, all-explaining.
Was expecting the truce to extend further into some kind of negotiated ceasefire. Now the bombing has resumed, it will be astonishing (at least to me) if the world continues to sit by and accept the ongoing civilian massacre - it's hard to believe the Arab world still has done nothing. I no longer believe Israel has the right to exist, after this obvious ongoing, deliberate civilian massacre and butchering - Israel no longer has any kind of moral integrity worth speaking of. Netanyahu is right up there with Hitler and Pol Pot.
After listening to every single expert discuss this for weeks - the solution seems more than obvious! The time has come to eliminate Israel - give them one month to evacuate all life and then make it uninhabitable. I think 75 year is long enough!
No kidding! Sort of reminds me of an anecdote about Napoleon. Napoleon found himself in a victory parade in Paris, right after yet another bloody battle he and his French troops had won. His faithful lieutenant Ney was beside Napoleon - as they passed through the parisian streets with huge crowds cheering the procession. Ney said to Napoleon, "See how much the people love you!" And Napoleon responded, "They would be cheering just as loudly if I were on my way to the gibbet."
It’s almost like the Arab world has never really cared about the Palestinians as anything more than a wedge issue to be used when politically convenient. 🙄
They claim to be there to “help located hostages”…..but the all news we have seen in these two months says they have BOMBED hostages to death along with the gazans and saved NO hostages.
To be honest these actions by the Zionist state has me thinking about Jewish people in a manner that I never thought my mind was capable of being driven into. Such dark thoughts in dark spaces. I’ve always considered myself a rational being. Yet my thoughts disgust me. I flip flop. I think of “ Pegasus” I think of Epstein’s/ Maxwell honey pot. I think about the reaction of the political classes to the genocide in Gaza. Or lack there of. I get paranoid. I think you’ve given an unsuspected enemy the resources to bring you down.
When I see American Jews shutting down Grand Central Station to support the Palestinian people and say "Not in Our Name," and when I see American rabbis burning Israeli flags, I know there is a fundamental difference between Judaism and Zionism.
Be careful what you say now that we live in surveillance country. I on the other hand have simply lost all respect - I never had a prejudicial bone in my entire body
The U.S. House votes on a resolution stating that being Anti-Zionist IS ACTUALLY being anti-Semitic.
Passed on a near-unanimous vote save two: Thomas Massie from Kentucky votes against, and Rashida Tlaib from Michigan (an actual Palestinian), votes "Present."
THIS is the level of disconnect and gaslighting that we see at our highest levels of government.
Meanwhile the Pentagon once again fails its annual audit to the tune of 2 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Congress' response? WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THE MILITARY!!!
Someday, somehow, all of these people need to be out on the asses, and we need to reclaim our Country.
And I don't understand the mindset among our politicians that the more we don't like something, the more they force it on us and shove it down our throats.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't take well to being told what to think.
"I don't take well ..." - if they read this they'd sadistically push more of their shit onto you.
They've been doing it all the time, more openly so recently. Yet the imbecilic public thinks it's in charge. What's the definition of insanity once again?
Just read an article in Foreign Policy which skipped blithely around painting Biden as some kind of heroic negotiator whilst ignoring completely the reality of Israelis murdering thousands of children. Example sentence:
"Yet despite all of the criticism and the grim death toll among Palestinians and Israelis, and given the constraints and things beyond his control, Biden has fared pretty well so far in preserving U.S. interests and preventing matters from getting worse."
Er, I'm not sure anyone in the world right now can possibly put the death toll of either side as if there were some kind of equivalence here. The only thing I find 'grim' is this disgustingly inadequate journalism: we are seriously being asked to believe Biden is stopping the killing from getting worse?
As you say, Caitlin, the level of cognitive dissonance required to read articles such as these whilst watching children being blown into pieces and vast swathes of Gaza turning into dust is becoming impossible even for hardened Israel apologists. Hamas aren't even in control of the West Bank, yet Palestinians are being gunned down there too.
Boycott, Divest, Sanction. And thank you so much for your writing, your clear voice is needed now more than ever before and I'm so grateful for it amidst all this horror.
"... as a free democracy with liberal values identical to the west’s ..." - actually, that's true. Israel and the West are identical in their lying stance about "free democracy" and "liberal values".
"...believe that that partner is actually entirely in alignment with the values of the virtuous west..." - yes, it is. See above.
"Westerners are taught (falsely) that their governments embody virtuous values systems prioritizing freedom, peace, justice and truth, and here’s this bizarre ethnostate glommed onto them which very clearly wipes its ass with those values without even really attempting to disguise it."
Beautifully said! Westerners are starting to wake up to see the "ass" that is Israel and its crap stuck all over us and nothing, no "virtuous value" can cover over the shit stains.
"You’re more likely to support Israel if you’re a shitty person, and if you weren’t a shitty person to begin with you’ll eventually have to turn into one to continue supporting Israel’s actions."
Yeah, I've met a few shitty types lately doing the apology round for the genocider. Perhaps they're providing the brown stuff to the Israelis free of charge? Time to flush them all away! #FreePalestine
The world's most powerful military, allied with the financial wherewithal of the Zionists. Even if they were in the hands of well meaning people, the capacity for evil of this combination is mind boggling. Just think what kind of damage it will do in the hands of evil people. That is the situation we have today.
"The Zionist ideological framework which birthed Israel in the first place is what has been guiding its political course this entire time".
Which is all you need to know. It ain't Judaism; it ain't some ancient scriptural imperative; it ain't the fiery breath of Yahweh shooting down to cleanse the land for his (her?) chosen people. It's an ideology of settler colonialist totalitarian horror that rivals so many other violent self-affirming narcissistic nationalist movements that have killed millions throughout the sewers of human history.
Brilliant!
So Violent. So ideological. So stupid. Blaming world conflict on a leftist BDS dogma of Oppression, apartheid and settler Colonialism. It’s almost as if you were destroyed attending an elite University ;). You are bedfellows with unhinged fundamental Islamist that state the following when it comes to Jews and Israel who you see as an apartheid state. Crazed. Your ideological teammates Hamas. The Hamas Foundational Covenant.
- The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),
- The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,
- The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land.
Can I be any more specific? ;)
There are NO HOLY wars. From any angle. To hell with your pabulum about elite universities; if you need to fling that rhetoric at me, you have nothing but the same old bullshit. I am not invested in destruction of anything, but rather resonate with the experiences of Miko Peled in "The General's Son", a book you might consider reading. If Miko's father Matti, an Israeli general, recognized that a truly democratic single state was the solution and if father and son were both able to form close relationships and dialog with Palestinians in an amicable fashion, it is clear that that pathway is a defined potential route. But the hardheads in Likud, just like the hardhead Neocons in the US are incapable of thinking in that dimension. Perhaps so are the leaders of Hamas, but I have no personal knowledge because their bloviations aren't easy to come by as are those of Bibi et al. Unless I'm misunderstanding (forgive me if I am), so apparently are you (incapable of thinking in that dimension). And if I'm embroiled in leftist dogma for opposing braindead motherfuckers like Lindsay Graham and the others in the thoroughly corrupt US government who see Israel as its bully boy and aircraft carrier to sustain a US foreign policy of global mayhem, then I plead guilty to detesting my own government; which, by association must imply that I also hate those it unreservedly supports like that of Israel. Tough shit if that's too much for you. Again, I don't advocate for the "complete destruction" of anything or anyone except for maniacal fools driven by dogmas they pull out of their asses or some ancient texts (same thing) without any room in their stultified brains for alternative solutions. One state, equal rights of citizenship. If that isn't it, I don't know the answer; certainly not, however the status quo. And by the way, I don't apply the ad hominem "stupid" to anyone I don't really know, so in conclusion and in reference to that part of your comment, fuck you. Can I be any more specific?
Hi Vin
TWO states are the only viable solution. You don’t really believe that Palestinians would enjoy the same rights as IsraHellis in ONE state, do you?
Hi gypsy,
No, not unless the citizens of Israel get the hell rid of Likud politicians and put someone compassionate in power; but I grant you that is unlikely. However, I also don't foresee the return of the West Bank settlements to Palestinian occupants or the reconstruction/ repopulation of Gaza, which if I were Palestinian, would seem to me to be minimal requirements for two states (perhaps I'm wrong to project that assumption). Bloody mess, of course, that Western governments helped to create and sustain. Wish I had a better answer, but of course, I don't.
The first action would be kicking the squatters out of the West Bank and sending them back under the rocks from whence they came.
Ditto for Abbas.
I’m like Vin, a one state that is shared equally by all. It may be a pipe dream but I can’t see a 2 state as being fair. Who gets Jerusalem, for instance? Eva Bartlett talks about this in her writings. But the powers that be right now want a 2 state solution as transition. I don’t know. It’s complicated and up to Hamas, I think.
The powers that be are dredging up the long-dead two-state solution that they've only ever paid lip-service to because the genocidal monsters have to pretend they care about the escalated violence in Gaza and the West Bank. The touted two-state solution was never going to be fair to Palestinians, even if it had been a genuine agreement. (It wasn't because Israel continued illegal settlements full bore.)
The only solution is one secular democratic state for Arab Christians, Muslims, and Jews. Any Zionists who couldn't tolerate living peacefully with their neighbors can pick up and move right back to Brooklyn or the Bronx or Russia or wherever they came from.
If it was possible to have a one state that was fully and equally represented by all people's of that regon not just these zi0paths it could be a better solution.. But at this point too much bad blood has been shed.. I see no alternative but the eradication of the state of Israel as a political entity. I hope to see it in my lifetime and despite the carnage this event is doing all the heavy lifting . The Zionist are loossing world support despite their hubris arrogance and delusions. And they are loosing the war despite the blattant desperate unhinged lying of the West.
Agree, Chaz. I used to advocate for two states, but now there can be only ONE state… PALESTINE.
According to military genius Scott Ritter, IsraHell will no longer exist in ten years. I hope it’s sooner than that and like you, I hope to live long enough to see it.
Indeed, Even that war mongering psycopath Kissinger saw the writing on the wall as his frankansteane monster broke its restraints and started a rampage that even no music is able to sooth the pound of flesh it is obsessed with aquiring..
Well stated!
Thanks Vin. And I wish you peace and a good day.
I can get REAL specific here.
You’re a brainwashed Zionazi piece of filth. Hope you enjoyed your KoolAde.
@ David Carroll
"Can I be any more specific?"
Yes, David, you can, but it may not be worth the effort to do so. I could ask you to support your assertions, but the verifiable supporting facts are readily available for anyone to easily review.
Thus far, it seems unlikely that greater specificity will result in any response other than deflection and direct personal insult laced with profanity. You referred to a viewpoint as "stupid," and the response was conflation of a specific view with a fallacious denigration of person. A good-faith counter-assertion does not appear likely to be forthcoming at this juncture.
Vitriol may not be an adequate substitute for reasoned counterpoint, but it appears to be what is on offer.
Gosh. And I thought I was getting specific. Oh well. Night ;)
Before you run off I have to tell you that I and most here view you as dishonest manipulative and duplicitous. And sins you like calling names. But I'll simply describe your obvious personality that is shared by all Zionists.
And I'm sure you will only proceed to prove all my assertions correct as soon air starts to expell from your pie hole....(or typing claws) Because I have never once seen a Zionist not be an intellectual coward and a liar.
You remind me of that Indian character in little big man movie where he has to walk backward's and do everything in reverse.. Everything you just described that you think Islam is supposed to want to do is exactly what Zionist are actually doing.
And all you did was take the images of what the USA and Israel have helped create as radical Islamist (Isis etc)than used as a means of fostering unrest in Arab countries to justify western interventions and coups of their governments.. So once they commit attrocitys and make statement of Islam's hate of Jews (penned at Langley) you spooks use that as a means to justify your desired ethnic cleansing campaigns.
A clandestine plan cooked up at the CIA and mossad. Because that is how all zi0paths operate..multiple attacks on multiple fronts. And mind control through poision in the well of the unsuspecting western numpty you have indoctrinated for a generation.
You won't admit it but you are proud of those achievements and thus the ability to use their after effects to further demonize your innocent enemy's by lying.
You and I both know it..
No. Sufficiently mealy-mouthed to dismiss outright.
I agree 100% that it ertainly is not Judaism.
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It's the Social Darwinsi, stupid!
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg1119/#msg1119
Well said
Hey Vin, what do you call all of the Arab countries that have dispelled their Jewish citizens that have lived there for generations? Oh ;)
It is "ethnic murdering", not "ethnic cleansing". Time to make that very clear.
That's why the term genocide was created at Nuremburg.
What was it on October 7? September 11?
IMO, some very bogus banners were flown on Oct 7 and Sep 11.
The usual FUN uman animals parties! Both with the smell of https://postimg.cc/xJSyK63b
I still prefer the 9/11 one! 2 planes 3 steel framed buildings down at ~free fall speed... And the 2nd that was hit was the 1st coming down. A very difficult to break world record.
Basically yes. The US used 9/11 to bring in homeland security and the "war on terror"; all you are seeing now is the next chapter on that WHICH IS ALREADY happening in the UK, EU, Australia, NZ etc etc. Watch out for false flags across the so called West ... whilst the globalist parasites bring more and more of fighting aged, single, and uneducated morons into our lands..
Who created and funded so called HAMAS ?... OH = Israel Zionists !!!!
Ever thought about how 1 day on October 7th; the most well defended Country in the World, having one of the best militaries, intelligence and infiltrators, allowed 800-1000 baddies to break down an indestructible wall, knock down the defence fences and OH wait; paraglided in (LMFAO) .... without knowing and taking 8 hours to attack back....
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BUT THE NEXT DAY; they knew of all of the terrorist hideouts, tunnels, supply chains over in Gaza ?..... hmmm !!!
I find it fasciniating that the pattern is continually being repeated and yet no one seems to notice.
How does the US government expect anyone to believe they support a genuine truce while funneling military weapons and support to Israel?
IMO, the US government does not really care, except, perhaps, for campaign purposes.
They don't necessarily expect anyone to believe what they say. The below two groups form absolute majority:
1) their adherents who will accept whatever the US does (aka same team).
2) ignoramuses who actually do believe what they are being told.
3) those who know better but who can be bullied into acquiescence.
What do you think? I find myself depressed over what is going on, and more so because in America they are supporting Netanyahu's genocidal agenda and never acknowledge it for what it is. It goes unchallenged no matter how many deaths, no matter how much destruction even as it began anew today. They say Israel was warned about Hamas and it's intentions a year before, but dismissed it and thought they could never pull it off. Agents observed suspicious behavior who monitored the Gaza border, reported it, but were continuously dismissed. Egypt warned Israel of a Hamas strike days before the attack, and once again ignored. Netanyahu and his extreme right wing government wanted a one state solution and through the years supported Hamas, empowered them, because they didn't want one either. I think they knew this was going to happen, let it happen and found justification for their intended carnage in allowing more then a thousand of it's citizens to be killed lending justification to their destruction of Gaza. No one seems to accept this perspective and feels that Netanyahu injured his career by being caught so off guard. This is a man who encouraged someone to kill Yitzhak Rabin by his incendiary rhetoric, and behavior, even walking in back of a coffin that was suppose to hold his body, and of course someone killed him, and the two state solution. I love Max Blumenthal, but he also felt that Netanyahu was simply caught off guard. Netanyahu no doubt views what is going on now as his greatest achievement.
Do you think they had no idea this was going to happen? It reminded me of the Project for a new American Century where they say all they needed was a New Pearl Harbor, and of course they got that on 9/11. I'm not sure about 9/11, but I feel pretty sure about this.
You are quite right about PNAC. 9/11 was so "effective" at its impact on the propagandized masses because PNAC, way back in 1998, decided that the fascist takeover agenda for the USA needed, as you correctly remembered, another "Pearl Harbor" in order to be successful. They KNEW 9/11 was going to happen, at least 6 months before it happened, because of YEARS of careful planning for the sequence of destructive events, including that "airliner" that magically shrunk to the size of a missle when it hit the Pentagon, the military drone versions of airliners to crash into the two tallest WTC towers (NOTE: they KNEW that the military drone versions of airliners would be unable to bring the WTC towers down - the airliners were for propaganda optics), AND obtaining the services of Netanyahu's tight lipped Zionist Team of explosive demolition experts to rig WTC 1, 2 AND 7 for explosive demolition. By a strange coincidence, Netanyahu was in NYC on 9/11, the same day the dancing Israelis were filmed joyously filming the burning WTC towers....
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-110822211802-18571793.png
Perhaps Gore would have delayed their MIC Fascist Dream Come True for a few years, but I doubt that because the MIC has owned the Duopoly for at least half a century, if not more. At any rate, as soon as Bush and Cheney took office. The BIG GREEN LIGHT for the "New Pearl Harbor" to take place was given.
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-260123174909.png
See below, irrefutable evidence that 9/11 was an inside job:
https://soberthinking.createaforum.com/gallery/soberthinking/1-260823144756-2521718.jpeg
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Final thoughts about what is REALLY GOING ON in Netanyahu's brain:
📢 Social Darwinist Ideology is the pseudo-scientific exercise in the erudite, but mendacious, defense of the morally bankrupt modus operandi/vivendi commonly known as, 'Might Equals Right'.
Of course this socially destructive worldview is as old as humanity, but it was Darwin's "PRESERVATION OF FAVOURED RACES IN THE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE" legerdemain that convinced ethics challenged Academia into accepting it as, not only the privilege, but the "Evolution Theory based Obligation" of we-the-apex-predators to do our BEST to 😈 "rid the world of the lesser" races.
Netanyahu, a member in good standing of the Social Darwinists 'R' US, knows his MORALLY BANKRUPT "Darwinian Duty"....
It's the Social Darwinism, stupid!
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It will take me a bit of time to read, and think about this again. Interesting that only yesterday I was thinking about Darwin, and whose book, On The Origin of the Species, I read when I was sixteen, and remember feeling that through killing and death animals evolved, became stronger, dominant, and I wasn't happy with the whole idea of it.
I knew about PNAC before 9/11 and knew who the primary signatories were, like Cheney, and Rumsfeld and Jeff Bush. It also made me suspicious of the presidential electoral results in 2001. I didn't want to pursue it, but I did become very active in the anti-war movement, which of course died out and had little to any impact on changing anything. Disturbing to say the least that a country would kill it's own citizens to bring about their agenda. Thanks, lot of things to think about.
There is no way in hell this was not all deliberately planned - look how auspicious the retaliation has been for Israel albeit the world wide enmity
I find myself wondering how many generations did it take Germany to repair it's reputation and don't think Israel ever will - tourism is one of the largest sources of income - antisemitism will be the least of their worries in comparison to the boycotts
Christian’s would never boycott the “holy land” no matter who was living there and who died lately. As long as it’s safe they’ll go walk “where Jesus walked”. Christians are vile.
Hopefully your right, but unfortunately that affects the people and not those that caused it to happen. I want him to be found out, and even if I'm wrong he should be held accountable for such a mass slaughter. Not that the loss of life of adults don't bother me, but the children, the babies really do.
Certainly possible.
Do you believe it?
"in America they are supporting Netanyahu's genocidal agenda and never acknowledge it for what it is" - now extrapolate this to almost every other conflict in the world - certainly those created by America - and you get your USA's proud standing. The lying bastard shiny hill occupant that it is.
Not to mention our 20th century wars, but my real question is whether it's a false flag operation, that is, Netanyau knew there would be an assault, and let.it happen.
very well said
Hi Fran
A PR nightmare for Israhell on the evening news last night.
A female Israeli soldier repeatedly told the government that she and others had observed unusual Hamas activities in Gaza for months. Their warnings were ignored.
Which just goes to show ya that Satanyahu was willing to sacrifice his own in order to begin obliterating Gaza.
If this doesn’t scream FALSE FLAG then I don’t know what the fuck does.
I know, and not only that, but Israel was informed of Hamas's plan in detail the year before and dismissed it because, well they said, Hamas is not that sophisticated to come up with a plan like that, and Egypt did inform them about an attack several days before Oct 7. I have no doubt they knew it was going to happen, let it happen, and it provided them the reason they were looking for to clear the land of Palestine, either by expulsion, or death.
by the use of "Sock Puppet" dummy variable propaganda technique.
So...for this they can pick some small super wealthy country and say "O look "sock puppet country A" (a wealth middle eastern country of a few 100K people, per capita income $600K+. already a US client state), is holding peace talks bw the 2 sides Israel and H". Why stop there, They can even sock-puppet (using this phrase as a verb) side "H". WHo's gonna verify that talks are really ON bw "H" and Israel? I mean it's all laughable. And clearly I don't trust main stream US news. It's bloody laughable.
The US scoundrels/terrorists in office (aka government!) don't care about the herd of modern moron slaves levels of belief!
This is the money quote here
"The Zionist ideological framework which birthed Israel in the first place is what has been guiding its political course this entire time, and that ideology can only steer the country towards racism, apartheid, fascism, theft, murder and genocide."
Nailed it again, CJ.
"racism, apartheid, fascism, theft, murder and genocide" - could be compressed into Nazism.
Zionism is a Nazistic ideology. It just has different icons, and a different people in the role of Master Race.
Since Zionism movement/ideology precedes Nazism it would be interesting if Hitler knew/consulted it for his inspiration.
She nailed it but not the ICC. They’ve just decided that “they both are” is the answer to who is committing genocide. Guess that pretty well closes the doors to justice for Nuttyyahoo. I wish BRICS+ would set up an alternative international court as they are setting up alternative trade relationships.
Opps. I was wrong on this—it’s not the ICC, it’s a former ICC prosecutor. I’ll read more carefully next time. Still, he’s clearly an AIPAC toady in a high place!
Even the mainstream media has reported babies dying in incubators and dozens of children being killed every day by the bombings. What is really depressing for me is that it is so obvious that this is wrong, immoral, cold, heartless, and murderous. And so many people just choose to close their eyes to it. What kind of a world is this that we are living in? What kinds of animals are humans? Other animals such as dogs, cats, monkeys, rats, mice etc are much more admirable than we are.
It eats me alive that the entire world has not come to a screeching halt to put an end to this. I am sick to my stomach. The carnage. The world stopped for 9-11 and this is a billion times worse. I think what pisses me off most is saying they hated Jews when in fact they hated being tortured an imprisoned for years - which is WHY they retaliated on 10/07. I am so sick and tired of that lie being spewed. What abused person doesn't eventually attack it's abuser?
Agree, Susan, and let’s add horses too 🙂
BTW the worst race is . . . . the human race!!
In Israel and to all Zionists, *all* Palestinian children are future terrorists which justifies their murder right now. This is not hyperbole.
I’ve even heard Jewish women—hopefully Zionists—talk that way about Palestinian children. So staggeringly repulsive it has to be a mental illness of some sort.
It's certainly an ideology that encourages sociopathic behavior; that's for sure.
...and an appallingly dangerous mental illness too! Should you want confirmation of that, look at this tweet but take heed, it's graphic. https://x.com/MoHussain19/status/1730169240588632561?s=20
Omygod! Just reading that scared me! I have a feeling that what I dish out I get back and if that’s true, I don’t want to be standing near this bitch when her chicken comes home to roast.
Definitely scary! Those thoughts belong in the lock-up wards of high-security psychiatric hospitals rather than being uttered close to government circles. Seems the Zionist folk are trying to outdo each other in twisted sadistic supremacist state-of-the-art hate scenarios that do have consequences.
That woman needs a date with bonobos. Lots of them. So her brain would blow up.
don't denigrate bonobos. They are not rapists. they have sex instead of violence to settle disagreements.
Where did I suggest rape?
you didn't really. I must have jumped to conclusions. I cannot think why you would want to put anyone with bonobos to punish the human. It would be more of a punishment for bonobos who are a non violent, seemingly non punitive group of apes. They are quite amazing and I would never impose a violent thinking person like that woman on them.
It's the spirit of the Bolsheviks that powers her, I feel. The sort that is described in here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QtLvxZ9d0yEY/?list=hmv3AI5oVvJm&randomize=false
The labels matter little. You might as well say it's American Exceptionalism™ proclamations that inspire her. Or master race Arian supremacy ideas. It's like left-right false dichotomy to keep the plebes busy and distracted.
Evil is a much better characterization. All-encompassing, all-explaining.
Was expecting the truce to extend further into some kind of negotiated ceasefire. Now the bombing has resumed, it will be astonishing (at least to me) if the world continues to sit by and accept the ongoing civilian massacre - it's hard to believe the Arab world still has done nothing. I no longer believe Israel has the right to exist, after this obvious ongoing, deliberate civilian massacre and butchering - Israel no longer has any kind of moral integrity worth speaking of. Netanyahu is right up there with Hitler and Pol Pot.
After listening to every single expert discuss this for weeks - the solution seems more than obvious! The time has come to eliminate Israel - give them one month to evacuate all life and then make it uninhabitable. I think 75 year is long enough!
Jamenta, a thousand upvotes for you!
No kidding! Sort of reminds me of an anecdote about Napoleon. Napoleon found himself in a victory parade in Paris, right after yet another bloody battle he and his French troops had won. His faithful lieutenant Ney was beside Napoleon - as they passed through the parisian streets with huge crowds cheering the procession. Ney said to Napoleon, "See how much the people love you!" And Napoleon responded, "They would be cheering just as loudly if I were on my way to the gibbet."
Yemen has closed the Red Sea to Israeli shipping, but that's about it so far.
It’s almost like the Arab world has never really cared about the Palestinians as anything more than a wedge issue to be used when politically convenient. 🙄
The US is PARTICIPATING ACTIVELY in the genocide
https://www.flyingmag.com/pentagon-confirms-u-s-flying-surveillance-drones-over-gaza/
They claim to be there to “help located hostages”…..but the all news we have seen in these two months says they have BOMBED hostages to death along with the gazans and saved NO hostages.
To be honest these actions by the Zionist state has me thinking about Jewish people in a manner that I never thought my mind was capable of being driven into. Such dark thoughts in dark spaces. I’ve always considered myself a rational being. Yet my thoughts disgust me. I flip flop. I think of “ Pegasus” I think of Epstein’s/ Maxwell honey pot. I think about the reaction of the political classes to the genocide in Gaza. Or lack there of. I get paranoid. I think you’ve given an unsuspected enemy the resources to bring you down.
When I see American Jews shutting down Grand Central Station to support the Palestinian people and say "Not in Our Name," and when I see American rabbis burning Israeli flags, I know there is a fundamental difference between Judaism and Zionism.
So should you.
Be careful what you say now that we live in surveillance country. I on the other hand have simply lost all respect - I never had a prejudicial bone in my entire body
The goal is genocide…..and the US government and the British government is directly involved in it, not just spectator:
https://www.declassifieduk.org/u-s-flies-routine-spy-flights-from-uks-cyprus-base-near-gaza-for-third-party-governments/
And the German government:
https://apnews.com/article/germany-scholz-israel-aid-hamas-b38a3cf34895fbfc0c966bb27413886f
https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/03/europe-aiding-and-assisting-israels-war-in-gaza-with-vital-weapons
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-military-exports-israel-up-nearly-10-fold-berlin-fast-tracks-permits-2023-11-08/
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/germany-reports-massive-surge-in-arms-exports-to-israel-/3047652
And the french
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/pro-palestine-group-protests-outside-defense-firms-london-offices/3048349
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/pro-palestine-group-protests-outside-defense-firms-london-offices/3048349
But that shouldn’t be a surprise. These are mass-murderers for private profit for a long time now:
https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar
The U.S. House votes on a resolution stating that being Anti-Zionist IS ACTUALLY being anti-Semitic.
Passed on a near-unanimous vote save two: Thomas Massie from Kentucky votes against, and Rashida Tlaib from Michigan (an actual Palestinian), votes "Present."
THIS is the level of disconnect and gaslighting that we see at our highest levels of government.
Meanwhile the Pentagon once again fails its annual audit to the tune of 2 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Congress' response? WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THE MILITARY!!!
Someday, somehow, all of these people need to be out on the asses, and we need to reclaim our Country.
Call me an anti-Semite, then.
Even though my heroes include Medea Benjamin, Phil Weiss and Alison Weir.
It's beyond ludicrous.
And I don't understand the mindset among our politicians that the more we don't like something, the more they force it on us and shove it down our throats.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't take well to being told what to think.
"I don't take well ..." - if they read this they'd sadistically push more of their shit onto you.
They've been doing it all the time, more openly so recently. Yet the imbecilic public thinks it's in charge. What's the definition of insanity once again?
Some people suggest voting.
Wait, that's what's being done already. Puzzling... for far too many.
Just read an article in Foreign Policy which skipped blithely around painting Biden as some kind of heroic negotiator whilst ignoring completely the reality of Israelis murdering thousands of children. Example sentence:
"Yet despite all of the criticism and the grim death toll among Palestinians and Israelis, and given the constraints and things beyond his control, Biden has fared pretty well so far in preserving U.S. interests and preventing matters from getting worse."
Er, I'm not sure anyone in the world right now can possibly put the death toll of either side as if there were some kind of equivalence here. The only thing I find 'grim' is this disgustingly inadequate journalism: we are seriously being asked to believe Biden is stopping the killing from getting worse?
As you say, Caitlin, the level of cognitive dissonance required to read articles such as these whilst watching children being blown into pieces and vast swathes of Gaza turning into dust is becoming impossible even for hardened Israel apologists. Hamas aren't even in control of the West Bank, yet Palestinians are being gunned down there too.
Boycott, Divest, Sanction. And thank you so much for your writing, your clear voice is needed now more than ever before and I'm so grateful for it amidst all this horror.
"Beyond (Biden's) control." What utter rubbish. Biden could stop this genocide with one call--to cut off all military aid to Israel.
Foreign Policy knows that, but they're professional liars for the Empire.
"... as a free democracy with liberal values identical to the west’s ..." - actually, that's true. Israel and the West are identical in their lying stance about "free democracy" and "liberal values".
"...believe that that partner is actually entirely in alignment with the values of the virtuous west..." - yes, it is. See above.
"Westerners are taught (falsely) that their governments embody virtuous values systems prioritizing freedom, peace, justice and truth, and here’s this bizarre ethnostate glommed onto them which very clearly wipes its ass with those values without even really attempting to disguise it."
Beautifully said! Westerners are starting to wake up to see the "ass" that is Israel and its crap stuck all over us and nothing, no "virtuous value" can cover over the shit stains.
"You’re more likely to support Israel if you’re a shitty person, and if you weren’t a shitty person to begin with you’ll eventually have to turn into one to continue supporting Israel’s actions."
Yeah, I've met a few shitty types lately doing the apology round for the genocider. Perhaps they're providing the brown stuff to the Israelis free of charge? Time to flush them all away! #FreePalestine
The world's most powerful military, allied with the financial wherewithal of the Zionists. Even if they were in the hands of well meaning people, the capacity for evil of this combination is mind boggling. Just think what kind of damage it will do in the hands of evil people. That is the situation we have today.
Hi, appreciate your articles. Not sure about the expression 'ethnic cleansing'. Cleansing makes it sound positive. It is ethnic murder.
Cleansing includes murdering. Whatever means necessary "to free from dirt, contamination, or impurities", "to remove dirt, filth, etc, from".