Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley): What’s happening in Gaza should radicalize you. It absolutely should. Right now, even as its own criminality hits fever pitch, the western political-media class is fretting with increasing shrillness about young people getting “radicalized” and turned against their government by the spread of information and ideas at campus demonstrations and on TikTok.
Palestine, our Freedom, everything is on the line.
IF Palestine wins, it is a huge victory towards a FREE humanity.
Our children, grandchildren, may they live as Free people on a prosperous earth.
I don’t care if the anti-GENOCIDE protesters wear blue hair, masks. I will proudly march alongside my fellow countrymen/women who are screaming “NO” to genocide, and the brutal enslavement of an indigenous people on their own land for 76 years. “The children of the Camps.”
Anyone who is not rebelling has rivers of blood on their hands, for it is our own Western governments that are responsible for these heinous crimes.
Friends, we are winning, they want us feel helpless. It will take ACTION from all of us, from all segments of society to push this demon (apartheid) off the cliff.
Seek the beautiful faces of Palestinians for courage, keep Rachel Corrie, Hind Rajab, Tom Hurndall, Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh and millions of others in your hearts.
Triage, as Caitlin Johnstone exhorted “Keep your Gaze on Gaza,” don’t fall for the machinations, distractions.
We are standing on a graveyard of dead innocents. And we are next, in this ongoing Class War of the plutocracy against humanity. They are currently rolling out a West Bank style “Smart” concentration camp for all of us.
“In our thousands, in our millions, we are all Palestinians.”
💯 We are winning and this *must not* be forgotten. How do we know this? Every new lie is more ridiculous than the last. That’s what desperation does. Zionism is in its death throes, and humanity can not afford to let it resurrect.
Well said, that's what I was telling people when they were sharing the "Green tents" nonsense, this meme went viral. We must always ask, WHO BENEFITS from discrediting the anti-genocide protesters?
the discrediting of the legit aspect(s) of the protests is in-built, as all that is unscripted will be subsumed into the narrative by the pre-programmed re-write crew, who concentrate the infiltrate, and magnify to reify-
"MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough went full Alex Jones on his show last week, telling his audience that these university protests have been happening because Qatar has “poured hundreds of millions of dollars into American universities to have a radicalizing effect on Middle Eastern studies.”
Qatar?? Scarborough missed the memo, it must be either Russia or China that must be dumping those millions of dollars into Middle Eastern studies and leading our youth astray with Tiktok, targeted Facebook adds, and bots.
One has to wonder. Whatever China is doing with its Uiger population, it doesn't seem like it can be as bad as what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. And yet China gets accused of genocide.
That’s why ugly dickface Scarborough called them out. Because Al Jazeera is reporting the truth. And Israel pending ban of Al Jazeera was likely known by those in inner circle.
Al Jazeera is a worldwide news organization and I am not sure Qatar funds it but its headquarters are there. It used to be in USA and had Ali Velshi and other great newscasts. Israelis are afraid of free speech and journalism. They are into censorship.
Al Jazeera never had its HQ in the USA. I don't even think AJE had its operations in the US.
Al Jazeera is fully on board with the US Empire's GWOT - Qatar has hosted US military activity since the beginning salvos on Afghanistan/Pakistan and Iraq after 9/11, and they are faithful little servants against "Putin's Russia." But they produce the absolute best investigative journalism on the Israel lobbies in the US and UK that you can find. Hence, Al Jazeera is now banned in Israel and - as you noted - the Israelis and Americans (not to mention the Aussies, Brits, Germans, etc.) are all into censorship...SELECTIVE censorship.
Sorry should have been clearer. Al Jazeera is state owned by Qatar. That does not make it bad, as the U.S. govt wants you to believe. Just like they want you to believe that they’re saving you from Chinese data thieves by shutting down TikTok, the media site that’s hosting live, on the ground evidence of the Israeli’s massacres.
Well said. Especially calling out China as committing Genocide. Evangelicals want WWIII as does Israel. It’s religiosity. One wants Jesus and the others wants a messiah. Their truth comes out of books they wrote, interpreted and cannibalized. . .
Sigh! China is not committing "genocide" against the Uighurs. Amazing how some of the people who rightly doubt the narrative our betters want to foist on us re: Israel/Palestine or Russia/Ukraine suddenly turn into Maddow Karens the moment evil commie China is mentioned.
Literally every report on the so-called Uighur genocide in China is based on the attestations of the same 1 or 2 alleged "escapees" from the region (who are all very well to do money-wise now here in the West), a literal cult (Falun Gong) and discredited lackey far-right ideologues like Adrian Zenz.
Nothing they say holds up to scrutiny or evidence. Where are the graves? Oh so it's a different kind of genocide, then? Like erasing culture or sterilizing women? Whoops can't be that either:
For decades Uighurs and other Muslims were exempt from China's 3 child policy. Only recently were they brought under the same rules as the Han and other Chinese.
Most of this propaganda is - again - from the Falun Gong cult, the CIA and RFA and some nearby Muslim countries that compete with Chinese trade and have FAR worse human rights records. Turkey, for one. Furthermore, Turkey has been financing - along with the CIA - Uighur "ISIS" members in Syria for some time now. I'm sure the treatment that suspected terrorists in China get in "re-education" camps is far better than US black sites, Gitmo, etc.
->So a video of a street food tour is your proof that no genocide/ethnic cleansing ever took place?
Your arguments against Genocide/ethnic cleansing are weak and flimsy. Note: I am not saying here that a genocide is/has occurred. What I'm saying is that your evidence DOES NOT support your conclusion.
The problem with most US Empire haters is that they evaluate events based on a black-and-white outlook. i.e. If the US Empire is bad and uses propaganda, that must mean that they cannot be believed at all. (That is simplistic thinking.) But what about Russia/China propaganda? Do you think the US is the only country that employs propaganda? All countries do.
As far as the "GrayZone" is concerned, I have observed 2 particular items of bias in their reporting:
(1) They focus on anti-US Empire stuff - and that is fine and good. But they do not pay as much attention to the evils of Russia/China or the propaganda coming out of there.
(2) They seem to focus (spend their time) more on what is wrong with the Democrats rather than spending adequate/fair time on criticizing both Democrats and Republicans (from what I've seen). I don't mean to imply that they need to give adequate coverage to the wrongs of both parties. But their attention/time-give to certain topics and not others (on the same level/events) implies a certain level of bias (IMO).
If you are interested in a video that thinks critically about the Ughyurs, I recommend this video: Cutting Through the BS on Xinjiang: Uyghur Genocide or Vocational Training? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js)
FWIW, I DO NOT think there is a genocide of Ughyurs, but I DO think there is ethnic cleansing of Ughyurs.
Literally every report on the so-called Uighur genocide in China is based on the attestations of the same 1 or 2 alleged "escapees" from the region (who are all very well to do money-wise now here in the West), a literal cult (Falun Gong) and discredited lackey far-right ideologues like Adrian Zenz.
Nothing they say holds up to scrutiny or evidence. Where are the graves? Oh so it's a different kind of genocide, then? Like erasing culture or sterilizing women? Whoops can't be that either:
You literally just totally skipped over that and only focused on the two videos, which if you knew anything about the claims about genocide, you'd have known that I included because they say that the area is locked down or tightly managed in terms of tourism. The videos show otherwise. But again, you TOTALLY ignored the other stuff!! For that, I am going to provide you even MORE factual information that you can also ignore, lol!
Here's an idea, "Chang" - Why don't you find one single factual error in ANY of the "GrayZone" articles and show us why they are in error, how they got it wrong, and what the truth is?
Show us where they are lying about "the evils" of China. LMFAO!!!!! Oh, so you don't THINK there's a genocide but you do THINK there's ethnic cleansing. LOL you can THINK whatever you want - but if you can't back it up with ANY factual data, analysis or logic, then you're just THINKING and nobody else cares, INCLUDING the Uighurs.
The stories of those few "escaped" Uighur have changed radically over time as well, from "only giving us meat one day a week" to "starving us to death", and the like.
Uighurs have been an integral part of western China for 1500 years, long before they converted to Islam. They were in fact the "enforcers" in Central Asia for centuries for the Empire, keeping the eternally-restive neighbors on the western border from interrupting trade or excessive raiding of allies. Uighurs are as "Chinese" as Cantonese or Sichuanese people are.
Why should any country allow excavated artifacts to be expropriated to post-colonial western countries where they will be snatched up by rich 'investors' or stashed away in museums that rely on the "philanthropy" of asshole billionaires? Are you not aware of the history of EU/US abuse of China?
Why should China abide by outside rules on their own country's cultural/anthropological history?
I have a piece of broken pottery that was retrieved and some genius artisan made a lacquer box. I bought it in Chinatown in San Francisco. A treasure. A piece of history from the Cultural Revolution
The “analysis” of the supposed Uighur abuses can be traced to a “consultancy” whose assessments were used by the NGO community to spread this story, which was also spread by U.S. state department.
Now what is the origin of that “consultancy”? Its funding was unclear and The bios and CV of its leaders look like they are thinly disguised spooks. In other words disinformation (propaganda) specialists.
In other words this Uighur story is a carefully astroturfed global smear campaign.
Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged. Old and young are challenging the lie that Israel is not practicing genocide with US support. Israel apologists don’t have truth on their side, and they don’t have morality, so all they’ve got is deceit and manipulation.
Caitlin: "... [New York City] Mayor Eric Adams said 'There is a movement to radicalize young people, and I’m not going to wait until it’s done… I’m not going to allow that to happen as the mayor of the City of New York,' as though preventing the spread of radical political opinions is something a mayor is elected to do in the United States."
Exactly. I'm in NYC, and it was shocking, pathetic, and frightening that Mayor Adams tells us he's now going to police our thought, with guns and batons no less. With the excuse that Americans are adopting ideas from sources disliked by an establishment!!
Hello?? Do you have no concept of how the explicitly Constitution-supported public discourse works? Are you that big an idiot that you don't know what you're saying? Which monsters behind the curtains are feeding you this garbage?
We in NYC need to start calling him "Mayor Daley" (Chicago 1968 Democrats).
He -- and the media following him -- will get the message. And so will Chicago 2024 Democrats.
"From inside the International Amphitheatre, CBS evening news anchor Walter Cronkite reported: 'The Democratic convention is about to begin in a police state. There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it.' " Imagine getting that from CBS today...
To add to this, Diana, a report which may have slipped past our collection of media manipulators (MSM) as they search (avoid) the truth daily in America.
A group of influential Republican senators has sent a letter to International Criminal Court (ICC) chief prosecutor Karim Khan, warning him not to issue international arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials, and threatening him with “severe sanctions” if he does so. In a terse, one-page letter and signed by 12 GOP senators, including Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Florida’s Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz of Texas, Khan is informed that any attempt by the ICC to hold Netanyahu and his colleagues to account for their actions in Gaza will be interpreted “not only as a threat to Israel’s sovereignty but to the sovereignty of the United States.” “Target Israel and we will target you,” the senators told Khan, adding that they will “sanction your employees and associates, and bar you and your families from the United States.” Rather ominously, the letter concludes: “You have been warned.
The most obvious example ever of the arrogance of America and its disregard for the law.”
Now everyone. How do you like this for outright US arrogance? 12 US Senators think they rule the world.
I did see that and, I agree, it's so arrogant, and such an abuse of the power they have. I'm so glad it came to light so that people can see the kind of bullying attitude the world is and has been dealing with.
No, their views are shared by the other 88 Senators, 435 Representatives, The President, The Supreme Court, virtually all 50 State Governor's and Legislature, probably 95% of media and corporate managers, and 99.999% of the billionaires.
Those are ding bat senators that are MAGA nutcases. They are not able to enforce this bizarre threat. USA and Israel have avoided being part of ICC because of the behavior of both governments. I am an American citizen and know this. Am I alone in condemning this stance. American people are naive. They don’t want to know or participate or speak of politics. Born again are really off the charts. ICC members should write these fools off and arrest these murderers. All of them. Hamas too for kidnapping. Oct 7 didn’t happen in a vacuum
“then you should want to get as far away from that “moderate” position as possible, and you should seek the complete annihilation of that political status quo.”
Beautifully said. This disgusting, morbid dehumanizing hold that Zionism has our country must stop and stop now. The students God Bless them are the first wave. It is now up to all of us horrified by the ethnic cleansing powered by our scarce unconditional financial aid and war material which allows this wickedness to continue unabated. We are as complicit as the Israelis and we will be judged as such for racist genocide of a whole people. This is absolutely intolerable.
It IS radicalizing masses of students among others! Let's recall that the Anti-Vietnam War movement (of which I am proud to say I was a part) reached an important turning point in 1965 when Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) organized a March on Washington that brought out 25, 000 to protest the war - deemed the largest anti-war protest to date. This movement only grew from there, eventually spreading to many other sectors of the population including trade unions and involving hundreds of thousands in demonstrations/marches/sit-ins etc. until the war was ended in 1972.
I can only hope that today's student movement can achieve the same effect more quickly.
The blowback is harder now. Expulsion of protesters, forfeiting of tuition, registering in security and employment blacklists with face recognition technology.
It seems to me that back in the summer of 2020 with the Black Lives Matter movement/protests the msm and a lot of the Congress backed these protests and even news networks such as CNN would have a reporter on the ground in one of the big cities where buildings would be burning during the unrest and said reporter would say, “mostly peaceful protests” right there in front of a burning building. I’m not saying the BLM movement/protests weren’t the right thing to do in the wake of George Floyd’s death, but the msm, university administrators and the Congress/ President, etc. have a 180 degrees turn on the Pro Palestine protesters with all the shutting down of free speech on campuses, violence by police officers toward the demonstrators who btw really are mostly peaceful and only want Israel to stop its genocide against Palestinians. And this 180 degree turn is bi-partisan!! Something is wrong with this picture. It’s like you can be for all the liberal things such as abortion(not saying my opinion on this issue one way or the other) or Covid or whatever, but NOT Israel. Oh no, don’t you dare touch our precious Israel. This tells me one thing. Can you say Israel Lobby? I thought you could.🤔🤮😢
"Don’t let the imperial manipulators dupe our society into believing ..." - the problem is the society has already been duped into all kinds of things. The question is how to un-dupe it.
You and I frequent the same Substacks and I think we both know - It's too late. The ship has sailed barring an event so catastrophic that it'll involve rebuilding from the literal rubble up.
More than one catastrophe is coming, no doubt, and many will be by plan.
As for "rebuilding form the literal rubble up", we should be careful what we wish for. It matters who grabs the steering wheel at that point. The enemy will not be dazed and confused, but more than ready.
Stop buying their “stuff” as much as possible and get involved. Read and learn more about everything you can. Not what someone else tells you. Look for facts.
If I’m not there I’m getting close. It’s now against the law or soon will be for me to criticize a foreign nation and/or the people associated with it on my own soil. I also understand a rather large percentage of rules are made by people who have accepted dual allegiance (dual citizenship) with said nation. A nation that is currently taking part in a genocide against its neighbor meanwhile seemingly trying to provoke a wider war.
Those of us on the right know how badly we were treated on J6. The cheating was quite real (nevermind DT). When good people went to DC to protest professional agitators and saboteurs stole the show. Their media accompanying them every step as to package video clips and sound bytes to the masses. All in the name of discrediting the cause.
This is what I see playing out on college campuses across the country; wash, rinse, and repeat. And the most infuriating thing of all is seeing people who were abused a couple years ago completely forget. Either that or they’re just fucking stupid. Sorry needed to unload that. 😞
No need to apologize. I feel the same way. My brother and sister-in-law were all supportive of the J6ers , but with Gaza and the pro Palestine movement, nope not going to support that. Just a hint: my sister-in-law still watches Fox News.🤮😢☹️
Yeah, it's pretty funny that so many MAGAs were all in favor of jettisoning the Bill of Rights as part of their crackdowns on immigrants and something called "islamofascist terrorism", only to figure out that those powers could just as easily be used on them.
But, like the dog returneth to its vomit, they and their leader are again all in favor of a police state.
Thanks to you and a few others, Caitlin, I feel "radicalized"--even at my 80.5 yo. I also feel hot-hot-hot hatred toward the USA--(not to neglect the entangled militant-political Colonial/Genocidal ideology Z.i.o.n.i.s.m ).
"...there is “some organization” who is “radicalizing our students,” and that the New York police force intends to “find out who that is.”
Won't the cops in NYC be surprised to find out that the "some organization" is called "compassion". Empathy will "radicalize" even the most self-centered of narcissists quicker than anything. Imagine that! Unfortunately, you can't arrest empathy or have your zionist vigilantes to beat it out of decent human beings with a conscience.
Yes, honest compassion is truly the motivation, something those without it can't imagine, and so they assume the kids are being manipulated. But it's not just kids who understand this is genocide.
It's also interesting that some of the funding for some of the groups (JVP for example) is in fact tied to the likes of Soros, etc.
I was talking to my wife about it and was like "Is there any possibility that Soros and these NGOs are actually TRYING to discredit these movements by their obvious financial ties???"
I mean, I'm looking at Maidan in Ukraine, current situation in Georgia, and of course the student pro-Palestine protests in the US.
Wouldn't a guy as rich and connected as Soros (or equivalent) be able to better conceal their funding channels in a post-Citizens United environment or just stop "besmirching" such movements altogether by not funding them, given the bullshit political climate in the West?
I think they like to subvert genuine sentiments and movements so that they can control them. For example i believe the environmental movement, particularly JSO has been funded by Getty Oil (its not hidden, the PR says they see the damage done and want to help right it). JSO protests are obviously pre arranged, stage managed photo ops and are purposefully really annoying and counter productive.
There is is also the phenomena that high profile protests allow other people not to protest because 'something is being done already'.
These students are of course genuine, but perhaps they may have been helped to organise to create an 'anti-semitic' punching bag for the authorities, plus to create more racial and religious tension, not less (like BLM did). The Soros funding helps muddy the waters, something for everyone; including the conspiracy theorists.
We must assume that deep state and CIA influence is EVERYWHERE, cos it is.
All the while it helps to distract from what's actually going down in Gaza.
"implication being that it is the job of the police to control the spread of unauthorized political opinions." 📢🍉
""freakish and disturbing that we're now seeing US police forces and local officials taking it as a given that it is their job to stop the spread of political opinions they don't like?" 📢🍉🍉
Genocide Joe Biden's Democratic Party is counting on early burn out of anti-war protesters of his pal Benjamin Netanyahu's annihilation of Palestinians. Unfortunately, for calculating Joe, the radicalized, college educated youth of America see their future connected to the fate of young aspiring Gazans who likewise are fighting for a decent future for their children.
Who needs outside agitation when our very own governments in conjunction with Israel are busy committing genocide showing the world just how disgusting, cruel, inhumane and awful they can be? Who needs outside agitators when we have our very own media to distribute all the propaganda necessary to support the lying, murderous "leaders" that all of us get to watch in action, right here without going anywhere or inviting anyone else in.
just want to point out that Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement were portrayed as communist outside agitators widely across the South, "radicalizing" local people of color who apparently were thought to meekly accept Jim Crow. Same propaganda script, complete with blaming nefarious foreign powers who were seeking to divide us.
Yes, but can you imagine if the media and government officials openly based a censorship and crackdown initiative on the claim that the black protesters made the southern whites feel "unsafe"?
That those white violent KKK violent Lynch mobs were merely exercising their "right to self defense"?
Those may have been the unstated underlying reasons for white reaction, but they were never openly stated and defended. The situation is so much worse now.
I think it was pretty explicit at times, that the civil rights protestors were lawless thugs threatening our American Way of Life, and specifically the Southern way of Life in the South, still holding a lot of resentment 100 years after the Civil war. But extended to the whole nation after the wave of protests in northern and western cities. The Zionists do have a particular affinity for playing the victim, I don't remember any faked assaults like the lady who claimed she had been stabbed in the eye, and the national media wasn't backing up the KKK (but the local media was).
Protest OR you will lose the right to protest.
Palestine, our Freedom, everything is on the line.
IF Palestine wins, it is a huge victory towards a FREE humanity.
Our children, grandchildren, may they live as Free people on a prosperous earth.
I don’t care if the anti-GENOCIDE protesters wear blue hair, masks. I will proudly march alongside my fellow countrymen/women who are screaming “NO” to genocide, and the brutal enslavement of an indigenous people on their own land for 76 years. “The children of the Camps.”
Anyone who is not rebelling has rivers of blood on their hands, for it is our own Western governments that are responsible for these heinous crimes.
Friends, we are winning, they want us feel helpless. It will take ACTION from all of us, from all segments of society to push this demon (apartheid) off the cliff.
Seek the beautiful faces of Palestinians for courage, keep Rachel Corrie, Hind Rajab, Tom Hurndall, Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh and millions of others in your hearts.
Triage, as Caitlin Johnstone exhorted “Keep your Gaze on Gaza,” don’t fall for the machinations, distractions.
We are standing on a graveyard of dead innocents. And we are next, in this ongoing Class War of the plutocracy against humanity. They are currently rolling out a West Bank style “Smart” concentration camp for all of us.
“In our thousands, in our millions, we are all Palestinians.”
The right to protest is sacrosanct.
The stalwart Palestinians are seeing us, and filling their empty, blood soaked bellies, with hope. https://www.instagram.com/p/C6Sgy5oJwbs/
💯 We are winning and this *must not* be forgotten. How do we know this? Every new lie is more ridiculous than the last. That’s what desperation does. Zionism is in its death throes, and humanity can not afford to let it resurrect.
Well said, that's what I was telling people when they were sharing the "Green tents" nonsense, this meme went viral. We must always ask, WHO BENEFITS from discrediting the anti-genocide protesters?
the discrediting of the legit aspect(s) of the protests is in-built, as all that is unscripted will be subsumed into the narrative by the pre-programmed re-write crew, who concentrate the infiltrate, and magnify to reify-
and thus verify the distillate (proof)
I want to believe this so much !
Very well said. Thank you!
Well said, l stand by every single word
"We are standing on a graveyard of dead innocents."
Yes, and it's also:
The End Of The Innocence (Don Henley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3ayVDON2M
I have been sharing this a lot lately: Everywhere there is war, war in the East, war in the West. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEPoMNP0I
A new protest song/video "Turn To Dust"
https://youtu.be/_SOq4RQlB9Q?si=GAN5LGteZtUKRZoh
If only psychopaths and their minions weren't at the helm, what a wonderful world it could be.
"MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough went full Alex Jones on his show last week, telling his audience that these university protests have been happening because Qatar has “poured hundreds of millions of dollars into American universities to have a radicalizing effect on Middle Eastern studies.”
Qatar?? Scarborough missed the memo, it must be either Russia or China that must be dumping those millions of dollars into Middle Eastern studies and leading our youth astray with Tiktok, targeted Facebook adds, and bots.
One has to wonder. Whatever China is doing with its Uiger population, it doesn't seem like it can be as bad as what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. And yet China gets accused of genocide.
Qatar funds Al Jazeera.
That’s why ugly dickface Scarborough called them out. Because Al Jazeera is reporting the truth. And Israel pending ban of Al Jazeera was likely known by those in inner circle.
Al Jazeera is a worldwide news organization and I am not sure Qatar funds it but its headquarters are there. It used to be in USA and had Ali Velshi and other great newscasts. Israelis are afraid of free speech and journalism. They are into censorship.
Al Jazeera never had its HQ in the USA. I don't even think AJE had its operations in the US.
Al Jazeera is fully on board with the US Empire's GWOT - Qatar has hosted US military activity since the beginning salvos on Afghanistan/Pakistan and Iraq after 9/11, and they are faithful little servants against "Putin's Russia." But they produce the absolute best investigative journalism on the Israel lobbies in the US and UK that you can find. Hence, Al Jazeera is now banned in Israel and - as you noted - the Israelis and Americans (not to mention the Aussies, Brits, Germans, etc.) are all into censorship...SELECTIVE censorship.
No one said HQ in USA. But it was on Cable tv. I watched it as did my family In Montana
"Al Jazeera is a worldwide news organization and I am not sure Qatar funds it but its headquarters are there. It used to be in USA and had ..."
"No one said HQ in USA."
Your "it" in "It used to be..." could be applied to HQ being in USA. Do me a favor - re-read before you post so you don't make a fool of yourself.
PS: Try blocking me again, I can still see your shit.
You are so ill informed. It was on cable for years. All over USA. Do some checking before you post
Sorry should have been clearer. Al Jazeera is state owned by Qatar. That does not make it bad, as the U.S. govt wants you to believe. Just like they want you to believe that they’re saving you from Chinese data thieves by shutting down TikTok, the media site that’s hosting live, on the ground evidence of the Israeli’s massacres.
And not that Wikipedia is a bastion of truth there’s this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_Arabic
But you can always examine elsewhere.
Well said. Especially calling out China as committing Genocide. Evangelicals want WWIII as does Israel. It’s religiosity. One wants Jesus and the others wants a messiah. Their truth comes out of books they wrote, interpreted and cannibalized. . .
Sigh! China is not committing "genocide" against the Uighurs. Amazing how some of the people who rightly doubt the narrative our betters want to foist on us re: Israel/Palestine or Russia/Ukraine suddenly turn into Maddow Karens the moment evil commie China is mentioned.
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/
Literally every report on the so-called Uighur genocide in China is based on the attestations of the same 1 or 2 alleged "escapees" from the region (who are all very well to do money-wise now here in the West), a literal cult (Falun Gong) and discredited lackey far-right ideologues like Adrian Zenz.
Nothing they say holds up to scrutiny or evidence. Where are the graves? Oh so it's a different kind of genocide, then? Like erasing culture or sterilizing women? Whoops can't be that either:
https://patrieoulamort.medium.com/the-uighur-genocide-myth-8d2151349db7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEEjkQKADC4
For decades Uighurs and other Muslims were exempt from China's 3 child policy. Only recently were they brought under the same rules as the Han and other Chinese.
Most of this propaganda is - again - from the Falun Gong cult, the CIA and RFA and some nearby Muslim countries that compete with Chinese trade and have FAR worse human rights records. Turkey, for one. Furthermore, Turkey has been financing - along with the CIA - Uighur "ISIS" members in Syria for some time now. I'm sure the treatment that suspected terrorists in China get in "re-education" camps is far better than US black sites, Gitmo, etc.
Lawrence Wilkerson on the above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N385vKhXYQ
Xinjiang Urumqi Walking Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bC4XS_Pt0g (not seeing any genocide!)
Xinjiang Uighur Street Food Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bouKUOEHHs (not seeing any detention centers or oppressed Uighurs!)
Please at least try to educate yourself on the matter before buying into US propaganda hook, line and sinker.
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/03/12/cia-behind-uyghur-propaganda-and-scheme-to-demonize-and-destabilize-china/
Yes The whole idea of China’s committing genocide is nonsense
Thanks Mango, health freedomers alert to pharma, Ukraine and Gaza, still come out with a load of anti left wing, anti China BS.
The targeting is very subtle and clever. The Empire will lose a physical war but they excel at the propaganda.
Keep on!
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Exactly.
The Uighur storyline can be traced to a consultancy that was run by obvious spooks claiming to be supply chain analysis.
I disagree with your biased take on the subject. West (US,UK,etc.) bad does not mean Russia/China good.
>>"Xinjiang Urumqi Walking Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bC4XS_Pt0g (not seeing any genocide!)"
->So, you provide a video of a walking tour as proof that no genocide/ethnic cleansing ever occurred?
>>"Xinjiang Uighur Street Food Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bouKUOEHHs (not seeing any detention centers or oppressed Uighurs!)"
->So a video of a street food tour is your proof that no genocide/ethnic cleansing ever took place?
Your arguments against Genocide/ethnic cleansing are weak and flimsy. Note: I am not saying here that a genocide is/has occurred. What I'm saying is that your evidence DOES NOT support your conclusion.
The problem with most US Empire haters is that they evaluate events based on a black-and-white outlook. i.e. If the US Empire is bad and uses propaganda, that must mean that they cannot be believed at all. (That is simplistic thinking.) But what about Russia/China propaganda? Do you think the US is the only country that employs propaganda? All countries do.
As far as the "GrayZone" is concerned, I have observed 2 particular items of bias in their reporting:
(1) They focus on anti-US Empire stuff - and that is fine and good. But they do not pay as much attention to the evils of Russia/China or the propaganda coming out of there.
(2) They seem to focus (spend their time) more on what is wrong with the Democrats rather than spending adequate/fair time on criticizing both Democrats and Republicans (from what I've seen). I don't mean to imply that they need to give adequate coverage to the wrongs of both parties. But their attention/time-give to certain topics and not others (on the same level/events) implies a certain level of bias (IMO).
If you are interested in a video that thinks critically about the Ughyurs, I recommend this video: Cutting Through the BS on Xinjiang: Uyghur Genocide or Vocational Training? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js)
FWIW, I DO NOT think there is a genocide of Ughyurs, but I DO think there is ethnic cleansing of Ughyurs.
Do you seriously think people are stupid? Why did you COMPLETELY ignore THIS part of my comment?
"https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/
Literally every report on the so-called Uighur genocide in China is based on the attestations of the same 1 or 2 alleged "escapees" from the region (who are all very well to do money-wise now here in the West), a literal cult (Falun Gong) and discredited lackey far-right ideologues like Adrian Zenz.
Nothing they say holds up to scrutiny or evidence. Where are the graves? Oh so it's a different kind of genocide, then? Like erasing culture or sterilizing women? Whoops can't be that either:
https://patrieoulamort.medium.com/the-uighur-genocide-myth-8d2151349db7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEEjkQKADC4"
You literally just totally skipped over that and only focused on the two videos, which if you knew anything about the claims about genocide, you'd have known that I included because they say that the area is locked down or tightly managed in terms of tourism. The videos show otherwise. But again, you TOTALLY ignored the other stuff!! For that, I am going to provide you even MORE factual information that you can also ignore, lol!
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/ny-times-uighur-china-genocide-falun-gong/
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/10/17/uyghur-tribunal-us-government-china/
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/03/17/report-uyghur-genocide-sham-university-neocon-punish-china/
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/30/xinjiang-forced-labor-china-uyghur/
Blah blah blah blah blah.... "GrayZone"..... blah blah blah blah blah......
Here's an idea, "Chang" - Why don't you find one single factual error in ANY of the "GrayZone" articles and show us why they are in error, how they got it wrong, and what the truth is?
Can ya' do that? We'll wait.
Or how about this one?
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/03/12/cia-behind-uyghur-propaganda-and-scheme-to-demonize-and-destabilize-china/
Show us where they are lying about "the evils" of China. LMFAO!!!!! Oh, so you don't THINK there's a genocide but you do THINK there's ethnic cleansing. LOL you can THINK whatever you want - but if you can't back it up with ANY factual data, analysis or logic, then you're just THINKING and nobody else cares, INCLUDING the Uighurs.
The stories of those few "escaped" Uighur have changed radically over time as well, from "only giving us meat one day a week" to "starving us to death", and the like.
Uighurs have been an integral part of western China for 1500 years, long before they converted to Islam. They were in fact the "enforcers" in Central Asia for centuries for the Empire, keeping the eternally-restive neighbors on the western border from interrupting trade or excessive raiding of allies. Uighurs are as "Chinese" as Cantonese or Sichuanese people are.
Exactly. The stories of the FEW have changed over time and a very FEW it is.
A bunch of archeologists / cultural anthropologists had to have certain items SMUGGLED OUT from a series of excavations in central China.
This stuff happened all the time in the " New World " & reporters were there none.
Why should any country allow excavated artifacts to be expropriated to post-colonial western countries where they will be snatched up by rich 'investors' or stashed away in museums that rely on the "philanthropy" of asshole billionaires? Are you not aware of the history of EU/US abuse of China?
Why should China abide by outside rules on their own country's cultural/anthropological history?
What are you talking about?
I have a piece of broken pottery that was retrieved and some genius artisan made a lacquer box. I bought it in Chinatown in San Francisco. A treasure. A piece of history from the Cultural Revolution
The “analysis” of the supposed Uighur abuses can be traced to a “consultancy” whose assessments were used by the NGO community to spread this story, which was also spread by U.S. state department.
Now what is the origin of that “consultancy”? Its funding was unclear and The bios and CV of its leaders look like they are thinly disguised spooks. In other words disinformation (propaganda) specialists.
In other words this Uighur story is a carefully astroturfed global smear campaign.
The ol twisted reality of Unka Sammy Gavin. He stinks. The American rules based orders. We make the rules, you follow our orders, or we will kill you.
Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged. Old and young are challenging the lie that Israel is not practicing genocide with US support. Israel apologists don’t have truth on their side, and they don’t have morality, so all they’ve got is deceit and manipulation.
Caitlin: "... [New York City] Mayor Eric Adams said 'There is a movement to radicalize young people, and I’m not going to wait until it’s done… I’m not going to allow that to happen as the mayor of the City of New York,' as though preventing the spread of radical political opinions is something a mayor is elected to do in the United States."
Exactly. I'm in NYC, and it was shocking, pathetic, and frightening that Mayor Adams tells us he's now going to police our thought, with guns and batons no less. With the excuse that Americans are adopting ideas from sources disliked by an establishment!!
Hello?? Do you have no concept of how the explicitly Constitution-supported public discourse works? Are you that big an idiot that you don't know what you're saying? Which monsters behind the curtains are feeding you this garbage?
We in NYC need to start calling him "Mayor Daley" (Chicago 1968 Democrats).
He -- and the media following him -- will get the message. And so will Chicago 2024 Democrats.
"From inside the International Amphitheatre, CBS evening news anchor Walter Cronkite reported: 'The Democratic convention is about to begin in a police state. There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it.' " Imagine getting that from CBS today...
This is True. Thank you. Simplicity is key
Caitlin,
please cover this critical subject.
The Samson Option
Israel has long said that it would take the rest of us with it, or as many millions as it can,
should the Settler Project perceive that it is ending.
Did you think it was a bluff?
NOW it is clear and unambiguous.
The world is dealing with a Psychopathic Entity that is capable of Genocide.
Israel is a Psychopathic Genocidal Entity that is armed with nuclear weapons!
One that has long expressed it's latent urge to take revenge upon all of us.
So true! If we're not radicalized by this ongoing Gaza, are we still human beings?
To add to this, Diana, a report which may have slipped past our collection of media manipulators (MSM) as they search (avoid) the truth daily in America.
A group of influential Republican senators has sent a letter to International Criminal Court (ICC) chief prosecutor Karim Khan, warning him not to issue international arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials, and threatening him with “severe sanctions” if he does so. In a terse, one-page letter and signed by 12 GOP senators, including Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Florida’s Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz of Texas, Khan is informed that any attempt by the ICC to hold Netanyahu and his colleagues to account for their actions in Gaza will be interpreted “not only as a threat to Israel’s sovereignty but to the sovereignty of the United States.” “Target Israel and we will target you,” the senators told Khan, adding that they will “sanction your employees and associates, and bar you and your families from the United States.” Rather ominously, the letter concludes: “You have been warned.
The most obvious example ever of the arrogance of America and its disregard for the law.”
Now everyone. How do you like this for outright US arrogance? 12 US Senators think they rule the world.
I did see that and, I agree, it's so arrogant, and such an abuse of the power they have. I'm so glad it came to light so that people can see the kind of bullying attitude the world is and has been dealing with.
These “lawmakers” outdo the Mafia in criminal interference and intimidation!
Yes. What does anyone propose to do about it?
Charge and prosecute.
Good luck with that. Law is meaningless. Enforcement is all that matters.
Netanyahu's lickspittles.
No, their views are shared by the other 88 Senators, 435 Representatives, The President, The Supreme Court, virtually all 50 State Governor's and Legislature, probably 95% of media and corporate managers, and 99.999% of the billionaires.
Those are ding bat senators that are MAGA nutcases. They are not able to enforce this bizarre threat. USA and Israel have avoided being part of ICC because of the behavior of both governments. I am an American citizen and know this. Am I alone in condemning this stance. American people are naive. They don’t want to know or participate or speak of politics. Born again are really off the charts. ICC members should write these fools off and arrest these murderers. All of them. Hamas too for kidnapping. Oct 7 didn’t happen in a vacuum
"Those are ding bat senators that are MAGA nutcases. They are not able to enforce this bizarre threat."
Tells you all one needs to know about the threat of MAGA. Biden is no MAGA and his shit is real.
Or look up the "Invade the Netherlands Act", aka Public Law (United States) 107–206.
Not that the netherlands will stop being a loyal American catamite.
Did John Bolton not threaten UN officials opposed to the War on Iraq by reminding them the that US knows where their children go to school?
Caitlin. you hammered this as always:
“then you should want to get as far away from that “moderate” position as possible, and you should seek the complete annihilation of that political status quo.”
Beautifully said. This disgusting, morbid dehumanizing hold that Zionism has our country must stop and stop now. The students God Bless them are the first wave. It is now up to all of us horrified by the ethnic cleansing powered by our scarce unconditional financial aid and war material which allows this wickedness to continue unabated. We are as complicit as the Israelis and we will be judged as such for racist genocide of a whole people. This is absolutely intolerable.
It IS radicalizing masses of students among others! Let's recall that the Anti-Vietnam War movement (of which I am proud to say I was a part) reached an important turning point in 1965 when Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) organized a March on Washington that brought out 25, 000 to protest the war - deemed the largest anti-war protest to date. This movement only grew from there, eventually spreading to many other sectors of the population including trade unions and involving hundreds of thousands in demonstrations/marches/sit-ins etc. until the war was ended in 1972.
I can only hope that today's student movement can achieve the same effect more quickly.
The blowback is harder now. Expulsion of protesters, forfeiting of tuition, registering in security and employment blacklists with face recognition technology.
True that. Because in the Vietnam War era we didn't yet have a fascist state.
It seems to me that back in the summer of 2020 with the Black Lives Matter movement/protests the msm and a lot of the Congress backed these protests and even news networks such as CNN would have a reporter on the ground in one of the big cities where buildings would be burning during the unrest and said reporter would say, “mostly peaceful protests” right there in front of a burning building. I’m not saying the BLM movement/protests weren’t the right thing to do in the wake of George Floyd’s death, but the msm, university administrators and the Congress/ President, etc. have a 180 degrees turn on the Pro Palestine protesters with all the shutting down of free speech on campuses, violence by police officers toward the demonstrators who btw really are mostly peaceful and only want Israel to stop its genocide against Palestinians. And this 180 degree turn is bi-partisan!! Something is wrong with this picture. It’s like you can be for all the liberal things such as abortion(not saying my opinion on this issue one way or the other) or Covid or whatever, but NOT Israel. Oh no, don’t you dare touch our precious Israel. This tells me one thing. Can you say Israel Lobby? I thought you could.🤔🤮😢
"Don’t let the imperial manipulators dupe our society into believing ..." - the problem is the society has already been duped into all kinds of things. The question is how to un-dupe it.
You and I frequent the same Substacks and I think we both know - It's too late. The ship has sailed barring an event so catastrophic that it'll involve rebuilding from the literal rubble up.
Precisely the reason I don't frequent any other substacks. Whomever you see there must be wannabes.
More than one catastrophe is coming, no doubt, and many will be by plan.
As for "rebuilding form the literal rubble up", we should be careful what we wish for. It matters who grabs the steering wheel at that point. The enemy will not be dazed and confused, but more than ready.
I have blocked you several times. Sail away from me
Try one more time. I can still get through.
Stop buying their “stuff” as much as possible and get involved. Read and learn more about everything you can. Not what someone else tells you. Look for facts.
Short and sweet. I'm writing it down.
If I had a magic spell that would break humans of their cognitive dissonance, I'd have used it a long time ago.
If I’m not there I’m getting close. It’s now against the law or soon will be for me to criticize a foreign nation and/or the people associated with it on my own soil. I also understand a rather large percentage of rules are made by people who have accepted dual allegiance (dual citizenship) with said nation. A nation that is currently taking part in a genocide against its neighbor meanwhile seemingly trying to provoke a wider war.
Those of us on the right know how badly we were treated on J6. The cheating was quite real (nevermind DT). When good people went to DC to protest professional agitators and saboteurs stole the show. Their media accompanying them every step as to package video clips and sound bytes to the masses. All in the name of discrediting the cause.
This is what I see playing out on college campuses across the country; wash, rinse, and repeat. And the most infuriating thing of all is seeing people who were abused a couple years ago completely forget. Either that or they’re just fucking stupid. Sorry needed to unload that. 😞
No need to apologize. I feel the same way. My brother and sister-in-law were all supportive of the J6ers , but with Gaza and the pro Palestine movement, nope not going to support that. Just a hint: my sister-in-law still watches Fox News.🤮😢☹️
Yeah, it's pretty funny that so many MAGAs were all in favor of jettisoning the Bill of Rights as part of their crackdowns on immigrants and something called "islamofascist terrorism", only to figure out that those powers could just as easily be used on them.
But, like the dog returneth to its vomit, they and their leader are again all in favor of a police state.
And everyone continues to avoid naming the true culprits when it’s clear who’s driving the genocides in Gaza and Ukraine.
Shhh..... You'll disturb the Zionists & Evengalicals.....
Thanks to you and a few others, Caitlin, I feel "radicalized"--even at my 80.5 yo. I also feel hot-hot-hot hatred toward the USA--(not to neglect the entangled militant-political Colonial/Genocidal ideology Z.i.o.n.i.s.m ).
Don't go to NYC -- you'll be arrested for being influenced by other people (aka public discourse)!
^^^anTiSeMITIsmmZZZZ^^^
"...there is “some organization” who is “radicalizing our students,” and that the New York police force intends to “find out who that is.”
Won't the cops in NYC be surprised to find out that the "some organization" is called "compassion". Empathy will "radicalize" even the most self-centered of narcissists quicker than anything. Imagine that! Unfortunately, you can't arrest empathy or have your zionist vigilantes to beat it out of decent human beings with a conscience.
Yes, honest compassion is truly the motivation, something those without it can't imagine, and so they assume the kids are being manipulated. But it's not just kids who understand this is genocide.
It's also interesting that some of the funding for some of the groups (JVP for example) is in fact tied to the likes of Soros, etc.
I was talking to my wife about it and was like "Is there any possibility that Soros and these NGOs are actually TRYING to discredit these movements by their obvious financial ties???"
I mean, I'm looking at Maidan in Ukraine, current situation in Georgia, and of course the student pro-Palestine protests in the US.
Wouldn't a guy as rich and connected as Soros (or equivalent) be able to better conceal their funding channels in a post-Citizens United environment or just stop "besmirching" such movements altogether by not funding them, given the bullshit political climate in the West?
I think they like to subvert genuine sentiments and movements so that they can control them. For example i believe the environmental movement, particularly JSO has been funded by Getty Oil (its not hidden, the PR says they see the damage done and want to help right it). JSO protests are obviously pre arranged, stage managed photo ops and are purposefully really annoying and counter productive.
There is is also the phenomena that high profile protests allow other people not to protest because 'something is being done already'.
These students are of course genuine, but perhaps they may have been helped to organise to create an 'anti-semitic' punching bag for the authorities, plus to create more racial and religious tension, not less (like BLM did). The Soros funding helps muddy the waters, something for everyone; including the conspiracy theorists.
We must assume that deep state and CIA influence is EVERYWHERE, cos it is.
All the while it helps to distract from what's actually going down in Gaza.
"implication being that it is the job of the police to control the spread of unauthorized political opinions." 📢🍉
""freakish and disturbing that we're now seeing US police forces and local officials taking it as a given that it is their job to stop the spread of political opinions they don't like?" 📢🍉🍉
It’s called “Authoritarian Rule!”
Genocide Joe Biden's Democratic Party is counting on early burn out of anti-war protesters of his pal Benjamin Netanyahu's annihilation of Palestinians. Unfortunately, for calculating Joe, the radicalized, college educated youth of America see their future connected to the fate of young aspiring Gazans who likewise are fighting for a decent future for their children.
Joe is a stupid idiot and so is the rest of his cult if they think for one moment that they are ever going to win another major election again.
Who needs outside agitation when our very own governments in conjunction with Israel are busy committing genocide showing the world just how disgusting, cruel, inhumane and awful they can be? Who needs outside agitators when we have our very own media to distribute all the propaganda necessary to support the lying, murderous "leaders" that all of us get to watch in action, right here without going anywhere or inviting anyone else in.
just want to point out that Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement were portrayed as communist outside agitators widely across the South, "radicalizing" local people of color who apparently were thought to meekly accept Jim Crow. Same propaganda script, complete with blaming nefarious foreign powers who were seeking to divide us.
"Worldwide Negro Uprising Said To Be Soviet Aim!" - the NYT
Exactly! Very similar playbook here.
Yes, but can you imagine if the media and government officials openly based a censorship and crackdown initiative on the claim that the black protesters made the southern whites feel "unsafe"?
That those white violent KKK violent Lynch mobs were merely exercising their "right to self defense"?
Those may have been the unstated underlying reasons for white reaction, but they were never openly stated and defended. The situation is so much worse now.
I think it was pretty explicit at times, that the civil rights protestors were lawless thugs threatening our American Way of Life, and specifically the Southern way of Life in the South, still holding a lot of resentment 100 years after the Civil war. But extended to the whole nation after the wave of protests in northern and western cities. The Zionists do have a particular affinity for playing the victim, I don't remember any faked assaults like the lady who claimed she had been stabbed in the eye, and the national media wasn't backing up the KKK (but the local media was).