Then there are those who believe in The Rapture. They really believe that when the the Jews return to the promised land (promised by who?----oh yeah, God) then they (the true believers) will rise naked (can you just imagine) to the right hand side of God. It would almost be worth it just to see those fat asses floating upwards. If any party anywhere that had a chance of being elected stood for peace, justice and equality, we would be living in a different world. AIPAC has systematically bought every politician in the US and in other western countries as well. This has been able to happen because people are swayed by money; we are brainwashed to think that having exorbitant amounts of money is what makes us successful people.
I find it hard to believe money is the sole motivation. A lot of them might just be as brainwashed as their voters. Or it’s, ‘serve our agenda or we’ll destroy you, your family, friends, kill your dog, then burn your house down. Oh and if you comply, we’ll donate a few bucks to your campaign…
Well of course money is not the sole motivation. They want to be able to have power over others too. Money buys power. And of course, they want to sit at the right hand side of God. As if any God with a mind would want them anywhere near.
I've always held the opinion that if any religion can in any way justify the murder and starvation of women and children, then the religion isn't worth the paper it was printed on.
The thing is, God really doesn't manage what happens on earth. People do. And that's exactly why everything is so fucked up. But in spirit life, a change gonna come. Now it's God's laws, for everyone. We're not playing here for a single mortal lifetime. We're playing for eternity and immortality. We can choose to throw those things away and suffer. Or to abide in God and prosper. Any action taken here on earth, no matter how vile, even genocide, is ultimately forgivable. But why dig yourself a hole that could take a thousand years of spirit life to climb out of? Knowing this while still mortal is a tremendous inspiration and guideline.
They will find it impossible to go to God until they completely repent, atone, suffer, renounce their evil ways and pray for and receive God's holy essence. Same is true for everyone. Why create a delay just for a little pleasure here on earth? (James Padgett Messages).
There is no god🤣 Ffs. The human species is the stupidest species on the planet. Still believing in a mythical sky daddy that's being promoted by pedophile clergy🤮 Grow up.
There is a God. Human culture knows nothing about him. All these Christians are following people chosen by something. Whatever that something is, it is the antithesis of God. Which is the whole point. They failed the test of temptation. They failed to see. They let their appetites drive their theology. And for that they will pay. All things balance in the end. What goes up must come down. The scorecard reads par at the end.
God gave humans free will. Humans fucked life in this world up real bad. We could fix it back to Eden but nobody wants to. God's laws God God into force once we die. Totally different life then.
It's not God - The Jesuit Order is Satanic. Sounds conspiracy theory nut case. The Entire History on 'The Jesuit Order" movado242 full documentary on YTube.
This is new information for me. I’ve been searching for any reference to the word blackmail being associated specifically with imperialism and can’t find one. Can you provide one? I’m curious now. The word has definitely been used exactly as I mean it, however, as translated in Lenin, e.g.
I CANNOT believe millions more will potentially die for some dumb prophecy that reads like something cooked-up by satan himself to destroy the human race!
The word "rapture" makes me laugh ever since I read about it. The image of a bunch of fat bums floating in the sky just seems funny to me. I am sorry it is making you sick, but, as you say, it is better than having them down here with us.
Put a Glock in your mouth (Please don't. Used for dramatic effect) and the rapture will come instantly. Susan, good point and a reminder that religions are death cults, nothing more. During the rapture, how many practitioners will be shaking paws with Beelzebub? They assume that they will be swept up into the Israeli heaven with butterflies and bows. Not likely.
Neo-Atheism is just another religion. It is the religion of the death cult of Wallstreet "greed is good" and yet to be scientifically proven: Democritus's reductive materialism.
This is how international capitalism works. It controls everything of importance from back stage while it sets up two political parties who if the win government will control all of the important elements and party a will hand over power to party b everytime the electors instructed it do so. It also allows elements such as the Greens and Labour Left (but never a communists party). to be part of the structure. And this works fine for the system. If Leftist elements do gain government the system it waits a little and then collapses or bring near to collapse the economy . This causes an election and a friendly party get back to do what it is ordered to do. When the capitalist system goes into semi collapses mode (which it does circa every 30 years) it 'mows the grass' and gets ride of the unwanted elements which have become part of the power control system. Capitalist Imperialism also need war in about the same intervals. We need to peacefully but forefully stop supporting it.
I wonder if the time frame is considerably speeding up though? It feels like it - the number of hot wars have certainly speeded up - like a bunch of greed drunken drivers playing nuclear chicken on the road to... where? Also this analysis assumes the electors are in control of even the appearance of party a, b, c and not the Corporate Military Industrial Banking Donor Complex, not to mention the brilliant invention of the "electoral college." I wonder if we're also giving the Capitalist Imperial Entities more intelligence, planning and coordination than they are capable of. Things feel increasingly out of control to me.
The controlling capitalist system is not out of control. What is out of control is the eco system and the system refuses to get it back on a level base since this entails the very rapid phasing out of fossil fuels but they are very golden nuggets that the system was founded on. That greed will eventually destroy the system and us with it.
Yes I very much agree - That the capitalist system is throwing the eco system out of control, esp re fossil fuels. The Earth requires that much of that oil, that hydrocarbon, which she circulates underground for the use and sake of all life forms, remain underground. Indigenous cultures understand this. As you say, that greed could eventually destroy the system and us with it if not stopped. That willfully ignorant accelerating greed sounds pretty out of control to me. And that is the reason why every single effort to spread awareness, growing solidarity and actions are so critically important at this time on and for our entire Earth and especially in this very moment for our brothers and sisters suffering so much in Palestine/Gaza!
Don't forget about entropy. We're on a freight train speeding downhill and the breaks are broken😞 All "systems" are subject to entropy's force. Hierarchies are bad. All of them.
Entropy is a very slow acting factor.. Of course CO2 caused catastrophic climate change is a human caused function of entropy.
And personally I don't think all hierarchies are necessarily bad - the hierarchy of human tender loving kindness is clearly not bad. We Should just attempt to imitate the leaders and attempt to peacefully climb up to try to join them.
i don't think the system requires a lot of intelligence, planning and coordination. a fanatical adherence to dogma's and 'first principles' and early foundational indoctrination into submission is pretty effective. domination of the few over the many is old, but probably only needs a few crucial controls.
Welll Martin it does have more than a few 'critical controls. I have long had fears that it may not be possible to dislodge it from its controlling position and now it is open about its fallback position the nuclear option. If it were sane well balanced people making this threat I would consider it an empty one. But if powerful psychopaths make threats I feel we should take them seriously and not try to call their bluff. We need time for an intelligent moral response to mature. Their control of AI is he biggest worry.
i agree that there seems no off ramp for nuclear annihilation. i think ai was indeed a worry for them, and they are continuing that now. it will make oppression of the masses easier, but there is still a risk it will elude them, imo.
Very nicely said Caitlin. I have had to avoid listening to or reading anything coming out of the DNC to stay sane, except for Michelle's speech (in order to respond to someone's enthusiasm). Once you understand what vacuous gibberish looks like, it's hard to believe anyone could be taken in by such nonsense and lies.
What was well worth watching was the Arab American Institute Progressives for Palestine put on its own "convention" just down the street with three days of heartfelt/heart wrenching and very informative panels about the reality on the ground, the legal ramifications, the history, etc. building solidarity. I don't know if this will come through without having signed up:
CJ>>"If it was two openly evil factions, good people would immediately recognize that their goals are not being represented by either party, and a real revolutionary movement would emerge. What makes the Democratic Party such an effective psyop is that it stops good people from recognizing that everyone with power and influence in their country is their enemy. And it stops them from responding accordingly."
Well illuminated Caitlin! I've spent a few frustrating years trying to tell my Democrat friends/acquaintances THIS EXACT THING (but to no avail unfortunately).
"...spreading awareness of the reality that the Democrats are not good people and are not doing good things helps take away that weapon."
Exactly! I think after this week more people will be questioning why so-called "good people" are still enthusiastically supporting a genocide. Don't let them forget what the Dems are doing to the people of Gaza. Tie it all together for them--AIPAC and the MIC own the Dems and the Repugs and they don't represent working people. Perhaps we can get the majority to see the light and shut down the genocide for good.
You and 13 idiots like stupid The dream of the imaginary in communism will not happen You and 13 like racists say that a party is run by black people not good people
Groups of three to five officers equipped with batons seemed to cover the city streets including otherwise vibrant and leisurely spaces like the Navy Pier.
The foreboding police presence persisted through the weekend and into the start of the week when the first of two major demonstrations was scheduled to launch from Chicago’s Union Park. At the park, on Monday, August 19, thousands gathered to demand an end to U.S. aid for Israel’s decimation of Gaza. The protest took place just four days after the Gaza death toll surpassed 40,000 and six days after the U.S. government authorized $20 billion in military sales to Israel.
You came to Chicago early? Really? Well, police gangs are a pretty regular thing here in Chicago, too bad you find a black friend to go to the South side with; you'd think that maybe you were a Palestinian in Gaza. 😳
I couldn't agree more. I *wanted* to applaud so many of the speeches but line after line I was like, these are essentially lies. "all people are created equal and deserve equal opportunities", so you don't think of people where our bombs drop as people? etc. etc.
How genocide isn't a red line for people eludes me.
Fully 1/3 of people all over the world are boycotting Israel, which shows how upset ordinary people are about the ongoing genocide. And they don't even allow a Palestinian or a doctor who worked in Gaza speak at the DNC and continues to send money to Israel?
Why people aren't leaving the Democrats and deciding to vote for Jill Stein instead is beyond my comprehension.
Corporations will fire you these days even if you've made a huge profit for them. It's corporations and Wallstreet who run our lives now. They also run the US government.
Corporations use to have more responsibilities to their employees then they do now. That is, the idea the Corporations should be the new Gods of all our lives, and do whatever the fuck they want - is immoral and obscene.
Most American corporations these days treat American workers like replaceable animals, and treat the environment like a rape victim. The idea that corporations are some kind of golden grail of goodness is the bullshit Libertarians assume we all must believe in.
Corporations left to themselves with no regulations and no humane controls - is a recipe for human slavery. Which is pretty much the direction the US has been going toward now for decades: human WAGE SLAVERY.
Perhaps I've spent a little too much time reading Sartre and am, therefore, overly influenced by the idea that we are who we are in the world, but no one who does nothing in the face of genocide qualifies as a good person.
I do agree on the take on Democrats. Most of them have no idea what their party really stands for and just are there because they think the Republican party is evil, ignorant, and backwards. Which I see you also believe. As someone who knows many Republicans, I completely disagree with your take that we are evil and desire the war in Gaza, regular people don't want that at all. I'm even surprised you would expect Dems to stand with Gaza for real, they are a party of death in all cases and just care about identity politics. At least Republicans care about things that really affect our everyday life.
Apparently you don't know enough Republicans. Republicans are much, much more supportive of Israel's atrocities in Gaza than Democrats. Like it's not even close.
Because of how the media portrays Isreal as the only ally in the middle east and the middle east is the boogie man. I also doubt most really know what's going on. I don't think you understand the chokehold the media has on the people here. Most Democrats pay lip service but they don't care or know what's going on either. Humans are selfish and if it's not happening in their backyard they don't care.
The fact that people support wars and other depravity because they are propagandized by the media is, like, the main thing I write about. I was just addressing your claim that Republicans don't support the destruction of Gaza. They do, but (just like Democrats), the first and foremost reason they support it is because of mass-scale psychological manipulation.
It's really bad too. Blue MAGA is completely down the rabbit hole. I "attacked" Biden by telling another Substack writer that Biden was partly responsible for the student loan debt crisis because of the bill he signed on to in 2005 and he was now trying to dig himself out of that mess. This guy argued with me over it🥴 I actually had to explain cause and effect to him🤦♀️ I then told him that I loathe Biden🤣 He blocked me🤣 Mediocre, white men are such ❄❄❄
It's called "selective distrust". Republicans distrust what goes against their confirmation bias, as do Democrats.
>>"Republicans generally distrust the MSM on Trump and most everything else"
No, they don't - as can be seen from the popularity and ratings of FOX news. They only distrust any MSM that does NOT favor them (this is also borne out by the kind of independent media that Republicans follow).
Fox News is the very definition of mainstream media. Remember it is owned by the man who owns the times (biggest broadsheet in Britain, the sun (biggest tabloid in Britain) and the only satellite tv company in Britain. Fox is absolutely 100% mainstream.
Look, for the last 16 years it had been undeniable that neoliberal economics have failed. They caused the crash, and then they have failed to recover from the crash. Ask anyone under 34 when they expect to own their own home and they’ll tell you: never.
This creates a problem for the adults in the room who have been telling us concertedly for 50 years that neoliberal economics equal growth equals prosperity for all; and that all other strategies are naive and deluded. The evidence from reality is that it doesn’t, not at all. Simply compare your day to day life with that of your parents.
In response to this, conservative politics has had no alternative but to vault off into insanity. They can’t use reality any more.
So any conservative of any ability over the last 20 years has seen the way the wind is blowing and joined the Democrats or the Labour Party instead, wherein they have steadily worked to expel all the leftists, and by now, have more or less succeeded.
They have used arguments of broad churches and consensus politics to achieve this, but it’s been notable all along that the broad church and consensus must include everyone other than socialists. Socialists are told to take the back seat for the common good, and because we all like ideas of collaboration and pluralism, we agreed.
So: the rich have captured the historically leftist parties, as it was inevitable that they would.
We can see from Starmer’s first couple of months in office where his government will take us: war, genocide, corruption and austerity. Democrats take note. Your party is dead. You must abandon it. It has been colonised by your enemies.
The Green Party might be holding up for now (I don’t know so much about the American Green Party) but this will only become temporary: if it starts to go anywhere the conservatives will take it too. Nevertheless, ride it for now and simultaneously be starting the next vehicle.
Substack is working for now, but we should already be starting to move to the next platform, because it will only be a matter of time.
They are powerful and we are weak. They are massive and we are small. But this brings advantages: they are lumbering and we are agile: they are slow and we are fast.
If you haven’t seen Watership Down, I recommend it, the most complete version you can find. But the key line is: if they catch us, they will kill us. But first they have to catch us.
Obviously normal members of the public are not comparable in their evil to the empire managers driving the machine. I'm talking about how the empire uses political parties to accomplish its goals, not the individual members of the public.
Members of the public are not comparable in their evil, but they are complicit, just as the German public were during the Third Reich.
We look back in history and wonder how those non evil members of the public allowed the Third Reich to succeed. They did so by failing to oppose the right wing, being passive, just like how the Democrats passively oppose Republicans, scared of offering anything too radical because of what the opposition might say.
There are real parallels in current US politics to the politics of 1930's Germany.
For months, as I have watched what is happening in Gaza, and the response of the west (and especially how ordinary people in the west have just gone along with their political leaders), I have felt that it is uncannily like what happened in 1930s Germany.
And the definition of right wing is wrong there is a right wing
You are not a German, shut up and separate those sites like you are a liar
The doctorate is the right wing and democracy is the left wing and that is known you are an ignorant American in history and stop the American centralism and the definition of left wing is wrong and the constitution is a religious thing and that means a religious government and the republic is democracy
The constitution is not a republic you ignorant Yankee
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" you liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship you idiot
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum
Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" You liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship You idiot
That's not Short explanation That's the sites Lies and Yankee ignorant in political science like you
American centralism ignorant like youHOW That would be left wing
Fascists are not left wing they are right wing
And the definition of right wing is wrong there is a right wing
You are not a German, shut up and separate those sites like you are a liar
The doctorate is the right wing and democracy is the left wing and that is known you are an ignorant American in history and stop the American centralism and the definition of left wing is wrong and the constitution is a religious thing and that means a religious government and the republic is democracy
The constitution is not a republic you ignorant Yankee
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" you liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship you idiot
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum
Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" You liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship You idiot
That's not Short explanation That's the sites Lies and Yankee ignorant in political science like you
>>"It's also very dehumanizing to call a whole group of people evil and dismiss us."
Are you even remotely self-aware of what you are saying?
The Israelis, Zionists, and supporters of these 2 groups have been "DEHUMANIZING" Palestinians and Arabs for 75+ years now. And you're crying about what Caitlin is saying about Republicans ???
The truth hurts. Republicans and Democrats don't have solutions. They maintain the status quo hoping that over time the problems will go away all by themselves. Neither has have the intellect nor the courage to propose anything different because of the pressure from Big Money and Lobbying.
It's not a question of aligning and/or voting. The discussion is re Caitlin's post and her generalizations which contradict many people's experiences. Simple as that.
republicans own the brand name. if one doesn't support the genocide, one should stop calling oneself a republican, imo. one should invent one's own brand of conservatism.
You started the thread with both Rs and Ds, and are finishing it with Rs alone. I wonder what changed as I haven't mentioned any of those in my reply. Care to explain?
As you can see, many here cut in, drop a turd and then disappear. Hope you're not going to be one of them.
The things you vote for or support determine how evil you are. If you're voting for people who don't offer a way of stopping evil other than using evil to fight evil, you're voting for evil.
One can be naive, ill-informed, mis-informed, and many other things and NOT be evil. Such a person can vote for EVIL candidates while not being aware of the 'evilness' of such candidates. In fact, that is more often the case than not. Most ordinary people are NOT evil, yet they often end up voting for people in positions of power and authority that ARE evil.
Lots of very good people on the right. To the extent there is any critical thought or challenge to power remaining in this world, it is almost entirely on the right. The left as a legitimate political force died under the neoliberal consensus. But just when things were getting interesting, just as the deep state and its satanic science were being exposed, the puppeteers started this “brown man bad” show back up and the right, suffering from millennia of brainwashing masquerading as religion, fell for it hook, line, and sinker. It’s very upsetting, but it fits the pattern. What the right will never understand is that there is no peace without embracing the other. They define themselves by enmity to the other, and because of that they are easily led astray. All the puppeteers have to do is fabricate or exaggerate a controversy about feminine men, masculine women, brown murderers, black petty crime, etc, and off the right goes chasing the rabbit and reconfirming for the rest of us why we hated them in the first place.
And yet the Democrats are “a political party whose SOLE PURPOSE is to ensure the triumph of evil?” What then is the GOP? The evil incarnate which the Dem’s sole purpose is to ensure triumphs?
I think you misinterpreted my comment. Let me rephrase it.
If Republicans (or Democrats) care about things that really affect our everyday life -> then they would be supporting Jill Stein or Cornell West or Claudia De la Cruz and NOT a Republican party or Democratic party candidate.
I myself am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I know quite a few (personally) on both sides of the aisle, and also a few that are NOT on the US Team D/Team R political spectrum.
At this point in time, they’re being judged by their choice of potus and vpotus candidates. It’s so extreme that I think people expect decent Republicans to leave the Party.
So Ms. VP. No Palestinian speaker allowed. OK. Is it safe to say that because of the influence of a foreign power, this decision was made. So are you an agent of this foreign power? Have you registered under FARA?
"US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, said: “The 75th anniversary of the adoption of the 1949 Geneva Conventions is a fitting occasion to reaffirm our commitment to respecting international humanitarian law… We call on others to do the same.”
I think it’s beyond that: it’s to guarantee complicity, which is itself a psyop. The reason almost all American wars have been started by democrats is partly to ensure there is no opposition to it, either in government or on the streets; but also because having voted for genocide, having the blood of all those children on your hands, will affect you.
How do you think the people of Israel became so depraved? Because through their national service they are all forced to be complicit. Similarly, once all the people who ought to believe genocide is unforgivable are guilty of it, the temptation to excuse it and thereby absolve their own guilt will be much stronger, and America will take one more step towards barbarity. Voices reminding everyone of their guilt will become less popular and fascist propaganda more appealing.
It’s not simply that the Democrats prevent you opposing things: they make you guilty of those things which in turn makes you support them.
? Grenada, Panama, Gulf War, Iraq Invasion, Nicaragua. Five in the last forty years. I haven't forgotten Reagan's efforts to make war including subverting the American system of government by selling arms to Iran and looking the other way while crack cocaine was sold in the USA.
Yes, Reagan and Bush II were the only two Republican presidents to have started wars. All the rest (Vietnam, Korea, Iraq I, Ukraine, Libya etc) were started by Democrats.
do you think democrats (used to) have less control over the opposition to war (the public anti-war movements) when the government is taken over by the other wing of the war-duopoly? (also wasn't iraq 1 - 1990-91 - under bush 1?)
Then there are those who believe in The Rapture. They really believe that when the the Jews return to the promised land (promised by who?----oh yeah, God) then they (the true believers) will rise naked (can you just imagine) to the right hand side of God. It would almost be worth it just to see those fat asses floating upwards. If any party anywhere that had a chance of being elected stood for peace, justice and equality, we would be living in a different world. AIPAC has systematically bought every politician in the US and in other western countries as well. This has been able to happen because people are swayed by money; we are brainwashed to think that having exorbitant amounts of money is what makes us successful people.
I find it hard to believe money is the sole motivation. A lot of them might just be as brainwashed as their voters. Or it’s, ‘serve our agenda or we’ll destroy you, your family, friends, kill your dog, then burn your house down. Oh and if you comply, we’ll donate a few bucks to your campaign…
Well of course money is not the sole motivation. They want to be able to have power over others too. Money buys power. And of course, they want to sit at the right hand side of God. As if any God with a mind would want them anywhere near.
I've always held the opinion that if any religion can in any way justify the murder and starvation of women and children, then the religion isn't worth the paper it was printed on.
any ideology that can justify the murder of masses of people anywhere is vile. Nazism and Zionism come to mind.
The thing is, God really doesn't manage what happens on earth. People do. And that's exactly why everything is so fucked up. But in spirit life, a change gonna come. Now it's God's laws, for everyone. We're not playing here for a single mortal lifetime. We're playing for eternity and immortality. We can choose to throw those things away and suffer. Or to abide in God and prosper. Any action taken here on earth, no matter how vile, even genocide, is ultimately forgivable. But why dig yourself a hole that could take a thousand years of spirit life to climb out of? Knowing this while still mortal is a tremendous inspiration and guideline.
Are you fucking nuts?
...................MONEY is Power!
They will find it impossible to go to God until they completely repent, atone, suffer, renounce their evil ways and pray for and receive God's holy essence. Same is true for everyone. Why create a delay just for a little pleasure here on earth? (James Padgett Messages).
There is no god🤣 Ffs. The human species is the stupidest species on the planet. Still believing in a mythical sky daddy that's being promoted by pedophile clergy🤮 Grow up.
There is a God. Human culture knows nothing about him. All these Christians are following people chosen by something. Whatever that something is, it is the antithesis of God. Which is the whole point. They failed the test of temptation. They failed to see. They let their appetites drive their theology. And for that they will pay. All things balance in the end. What goes up must come down. The scorecard reads par at the end.
"There is a God. Human culture knows nothing about him."
Of which non-human culture are you?
And you know this how?
"The human species is the stupidest species on the planet." - you forgot to mention you're heading the leaderboard.
Agree Jasmine. I gave up on “god” many years ago. If he is so just and merciful and loves all “his” children, he sure has a shitty way of showing it.
Aye.
God gave humans free will. Humans fucked life in this world up real bad. We could fix it back to Eden but nobody wants to. God's laws God God into force once we die. Totally different life then.
We are angered by what we see in others that is also within us. Peace to you.
It's not God - The Jesuit Order is Satanic. Sounds conspiracy theory nut case. The Entire History on 'The Jesuit Order" movado242 full documentary on YTube.
I'm absolutely certain a whole fuck ton of extortion is going on. And Mossad is just as much of a crime syndicate as the CIA is.
We know they employ blackmail; I’m certain they employ threats as well, as you say.
Gentle reminder, blackmail is an imperialist term. Please refrain from using it. Extortion works better anyway. Thank you 🤗
This is new information for me. I’ve been searching for any reference to the word blackmail being associated specifically with imperialism and can’t find one. Can you provide one? I’m curious now. The word has definitely been used exactly as I mean it, however, as translated in Lenin, e.g.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/sep/06b.htm
It mentions imperialism in the article 🤦♀️
Money is not the motivation - The Plans of World Domination - it's The Jesuit Order
"I find it hard to believe money is the sole motivation." - that's the first since it's easiest. If not then escalation.
Read John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". On the scale of countries it's EHM, if not then jackals, if not then military.
Today's Jimmy Dore reporting on a TX sheriff licking DNC's ass: https://rumble.com/v5bzrky-texas-sheriff-who-endorsed-kamala-ripped-into-her-border-policy-in-2022.html
I CANNOT believe millions more will potentially die for some dumb prophecy that reads like something cooked-up by satan himself to destroy the human race!
Sometimes I wonder if Satan is on the Throne.
B I N G O
The Entire History on The Jesuit Order movado242 YTube
Thanks for the image. It’s making me sick, but not as much as having them down here with us.
The word "rapture" makes me laugh ever since I read about it. The image of a bunch of fat bums floating in the sky just seems funny to me. I am sorry it is making you sick, but, as you say, it is better than having them down here with us.
And remember, if they don't accept Christ, the Jews go to the eternal fire pit. Not my words.
There is no god. There is no devil🤣 Grow the fuck up🤣
Yes i agree, but the myths are fun at times.
And so, there is no evil?
No🤦♀️ There are horrible people who horrific things.
You and 45 are trying to make excuses for AIPAC not to buy anything you idiot
Isn't it the same as the ejection? I found that whole narrative that there was something to it a great lie.
Of course it is a lie. Or at least a made up story to manipulate people.
Put a Glock in your mouth (Please don't. Used for dramatic effect) and the rapture will come instantly. Susan, good point and a reminder that religions are death cults, nothing more. During the rapture, how many practitioners will be shaking paws with Beelzebub? They assume that they will be swept up into the Israeli heaven with butterflies and bows. Not likely.
Neo-Atheism is just another religion. It is the religion of the death cult of Wallstreet "greed is good" and yet to be scientifically proven: Democritus's reductive materialism.
I've been saying this and it's variations for the past 3 decades. Thank you so much for articulating it so well!
This is how international capitalism works. It controls everything of importance from back stage while it sets up two political parties who if the win government will control all of the important elements and party a will hand over power to party b everytime the electors instructed it do so. It also allows elements such as the Greens and Labour Left (but never a communists party). to be part of the structure. And this works fine for the system. If Leftist elements do gain government the system it waits a little and then collapses or bring near to collapse the economy . This causes an election and a friendly party get back to do what it is ordered to do. When the capitalist system goes into semi collapses mode (which it does circa every 30 years) it 'mows the grass' and gets ride of the unwanted elements which have become part of the power control system. Capitalist Imperialism also need war in about the same intervals. We need to peacefully but forefully stop supporting it.
Jack Lomax - well articulated and summarized! Thank you. People all over the world need to really understand this!
I wonder if the time frame is considerably speeding up though? It feels like it - the number of hot wars have certainly speeded up - like a bunch of greed drunken drivers playing nuclear chicken on the road to... where? Also this analysis assumes the electors are in control of even the appearance of party a, b, c and not the Corporate Military Industrial Banking Donor Complex, not to mention the brilliant invention of the "electoral college." I wonder if we're also giving the Capitalist Imperial Entities more intelligence, planning and coordination than they are capable of. Things feel increasingly out of control to me.
The controlling capitalist system is not out of control. What is out of control is the eco system and the system refuses to get it back on a level base since this entails the very rapid phasing out of fossil fuels but they are very golden nuggets that the system was founded on. That greed will eventually destroy the system and us with it.
Yes I very much agree - That the capitalist system is throwing the eco system out of control, esp re fossil fuels. The Earth requires that much of that oil, that hydrocarbon, which she circulates underground for the use and sake of all life forms, remain underground. Indigenous cultures understand this. As you say, that greed could eventually destroy the system and us with it if not stopped. That willfully ignorant accelerating greed sounds pretty out of control to me. And that is the reason why every single effort to spread awareness, growing solidarity and actions are so critically important at this time on and for our entire Earth and especially in this very moment for our brothers and sisters suffering so much in Palestine/Gaza!
Don't forget about entropy. We're on a freight train speeding downhill and the breaks are broken😞 All "systems" are subject to entropy's force. Hierarchies are bad. All of them.
Entropy is a very slow acting factor.. Of course CO2 caused catastrophic climate change is a human caused function of entropy.
And personally I don't think all hierarchies are necessarily bad - the hierarchy of human tender loving kindness is clearly not bad. We Should just attempt to imitate the leaders and attempt to peacefully climb up to try to join them.
Empires only last 250 years. The US is 248. Entropy moves much faster on imaginary "systems".
i don't think the system requires a lot of intelligence, planning and coordination. a fanatical adherence to dogma's and 'first principles' and early foundational indoctrination into submission is pretty effective. domination of the few over the many is old, but probably only needs a few crucial controls.
Welll Martin it does have more than a few 'critical controls. I have long had fears that it may not be possible to dislodge it from its controlling position and now it is open about its fallback position the nuclear option. If it were sane well balanced people making this threat I would consider it an empty one. But if powerful psychopaths make threats I feel we should take them seriously and not try to call their bluff. We need time for an intelligent moral response to mature. Their control of AI is he biggest worry.
i agree that there seems no off ramp for nuclear annihilation. i think ai was indeed a worry for them, and they are continuing that now. it will make oppression of the masses easier, but there is still a risk it will elude them, imo.
Exactly. The people running this shit show are not only monsters but a bag of rocks is smarter🫠
Not necessarily “peacefully” though, Jack.
Very nicely said Caitlin. I have had to avoid listening to or reading anything coming out of the DNC to stay sane, except for Michelle's speech (in order to respond to someone's enthusiasm). Once you understand what vacuous gibberish looks like, it's hard to believe anyone could be taken in by such nonsense and lies.
What was well worth watching was the Arab American Institute Progressives for Palestine put on its own "convention" just down the street with three days of heartfelt/heart wrenching and very informative panels about the reality on the ground, the legal ramifications, the history, etc. building solidarity. I don't know if this will come through without having signed up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPFXu5OU5m0 or https://progressivesforpalestine.com/
Thank you for the links Liana! Much appreciated.
People’s stupidity is boundless.
Same🫂
CJ>>"If it was two openly evil factions, good people would immediately recognize that their goals are not being represented by either party, and a real revolutionary movement would emerge. What makes the Democratic Party such an effective psyop is that it stops good people from recognizing that everyone with power and influence in their country is their enemy. And it stops them from responding accordingly."
Well illuminated Caitlin! I've spent a few frustrating years trying to tell my Democrat friends/acquaintances THIS EXACT THING (but to no avail unfortunately).
Here's my math equation/computer code ->
Republican_Party = Overt_Fascism + Overt_Evil;
Democratic_Party = Covert_Fascism + (mix_of_Overt_and_Covert_Evil);
(Hope my code compiles and computes - and wreaks havoc on the cognitive IT systems/thinking of human societies) 😃
Put it on github chokaski, set up pipeline, don't forget the test suite, solicit contributions. Do I have to remind you shouldn't rely on hope?
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You and 17 likes are fascist communists
"...spreading awareness of the reality that the Democrats are not good people and are not doing good things helps take away that weapon."
Exactly! I think after this week more people will be questioning why so-called "good people" are still enthusiastically supporting a genocide. Don't let them forget what the Dems are doing to the people of Gaza. Tie it all together for them--AIPAC and the MIC own the Dems and the Repugs and they don't represent working people. Perhaps we can get the majority to see the light and shut down the genocide for good.
More ideas at https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/baby-killers-make-lousy-leaders
You and 13 idiots like stupid The dream of the imaginary in communism will not happen You and 13 like racists say that a party is run by black people not good people
The dream of the imaginary in communism
Groups of three to five officers equipped with batons seemed to cover the city streets including otherwise vibrant and leisurely spaces like the Navy Pier.
The foreboding police presence persisted through the weekend and into the start of the week when the first of two major demonstrations was scheduled to launch from Chicago’s Union Park. At the park, on Monday, August 19, thousands gathered to demand an end to U.S. aid for Israel’s decimation of Gaza. The protest took place just four days after the Gaza death toll surpassed 40,000 and six days after the U.S. government authorized $20 billion in military sales to Israel.
https://jeffreynall.substack.com/p/field-notes-from-the-march-on-the
Thank you for being there, and for reporting. 🩷
Oh, it must be PhD math:
2,000,000 - 1,000,000 = 40,000
Original population - the number of people still in the way = a joke of a statistic
You came to Chicago early? Really? Well, police gangs are a pretty regular thing here in Chicago, too bad you find a black friend to go to the South side with; you'd think that maybe you were a Palestinian in Gaza. 😳
You and 12 idiots want to support Hamas
Genocide is OK as long as it's heavily advertised by attractive well-groomed people.
I couldn't agree more. I *wanted* to applaud so many of the speeches but line after line I was like, these are essentially lies. "all people are created equal and deserve equal opportunities", so you don't think of people where our bombs drop as people? etc. etc.
How genocide isn't a red line for people eludes me.
Fully 1/3 of people all over the world are boycotting Israel, which shows how upset ordinary people are about the ongoing genocide. And they don't even allow a Palestinian or a doctor who worked in Gaza speak at the DNC and continues to send money to Israel?
Why people aren't leaving the Democrats and deciding to vote for Jill Stein instead is beyond my comprehension.
Because humans are sheep.
That is somewhat insulting to sheep . . .
Americans have been well trained (propagandized) in the 2-party system by their schools and the press.
Then there are the so-called "WASTED VOTES" too
Americans mostly accept the COMPULSORY State too as valid
Corporations will fire you these days even if you've made a huge profit for them. It's corporations and Wallstreet who run our lives now. They also run the US government.
NO AIPAC runs the USA and yes they have money and corporations.
I support Freedom of Association!!!!!
Whether in personal or business or market associations as long as they comply with freedom
Just like employees have a right to quit, employers have a right to fire
EXCEPTION - a contract that prevents that
Corporations use to have more responsibilities to their employees then they do now. That is, the idea the Corporations should be the new Gods of all our lives, and do whatever the fuck they want - is immoral and obscene.
Most American corporations these days treat American workers like replaceable animals, and treat the environment like a rape victim. The idea that corporations are some kind of golden grail of goodness is the bullshit Libertarians assume we all must believe in.
Corporations left to themselves with no regulations and no humane controls - is a recipe for human slavery. Which is pretty much the direction the US has been going toward now for decades: human WAGE SLAVERY.
And blacks use to have more responsibility to their owners too!!!
Libertarians work by RIGHTS - not history
Perhaps I've spent a little too much time reading Sartre and am, therefore, overly influenced by the idea that we are who we are in the world, but no one who does nothing in the face of genocide qualifies as a good person.
We got inured to murder after Roe.
I do agree on the take on Democrats. Most of them have no idea what their party really stands for and just are there because they think the Republican party is evil, ignorant, and backwards. Which I see you also believe. As someone who knows many Republicans, I completely disagree with your take that we are evil and desire the war in Gaza, regular people don't want that at all. I'm even surprised you would expect Dems to stand with Gaza for real, they are a party of death in all cases and just care about identity politics. At least Republicans care about things that really affect our everyday life.
Apparently you don't know enough Republicans. Republicans are much, much more supportive of Israel's atrocities in Gaza than Democrats. Like it's not even close.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/646955/disapproval-israeli-action-gaza-eases-slightly.aspx
Because of how the media portrays Isreal as the only ally in the middle east and the middle east is the boogie man. I also doubt most really know what's going on. I don't think you understand the chokehold the media has on the people here. Most Democrats pay lip service but they don't care or know what's going on either. Humans are selfish and if it's not happening in their backyard they don't care.
The fact that people support wars and other depravity because they are propagandized by the media is, like, the main thing I write about. I was just addressing your claim that Republicans don't support the destruction of Gaza. They do, but (just like Democrats), the first and foremost reason they support it is because of mass-scale psychological manipulation.
It's really bad too. Blue MAGA is completely down the rabbit hole. I "attacked" Biden by telling another Substack writer that Biden was partly responsible for the student loan debt crisis because of the bill he signed on to in 2005 and he was now trying to dig himself out of that mess. This guy argued with me over it🥴 I actually had to explain cause and effect to him🤦♀️ I then told him that I loathe Biden🤣 He blocked me🤣 Mediocre, white men are such ❄❄❄
I do not think all white men are snow flakes.
There is no such thing as MAGA, you and 6 crazy communists. There is no communist revolution.
So wait, Republicans generally distrust the MSM on Trump and most everything else, but are entirely in its thrall when it comes to Gaza?!?
It's called "selective distrust". Republicans distrust what goes against their confirmation bias, as do Democrats.
>>"Republicans generally distrust the MSM on Trump and most everything else"
No, they don't - as can be seen from the popularity and ratings of FOX news. They only distrust any MSM that does NOT favor them (this is also borne out by the kind of independent media that Republicans follow).
They are in the thrall of Fox TV, which I assume loves the Gaza war.
Taking that as given, and Fox News is able to question the MSM party line pretty much across the board, but not when it comes to Gaza?
Fox News is the very definition of mainstream media. Remember it is owned by the man who owns the times (biggest broadsheet in Britain, the sun (biggest tabloid in Britain) and the only satellite tv company in Britain. Fox is absolutely 100% mainstream.
Fox News IS a part of MSM - maybe that's where the confusion lies.
Have you watched FOX news ?
Look, for the last 16 years it had been undeniable that neoliberal economics have failed. They caused the crash, and then they have failed to recover from the crash. Ask anyone under 34 when they expect to own their own home and they’ll tell you: never.
This creates a problem for the adults in the room who have been telling us concertedly for 50 years that neoliberal economics equal growth equals prosperity for all; and that all other strategies are naive and deluded. The evidence from reality is that it doesn’t, not at all. Simply compare your day to day life with that of your parents.
In response to this, conservative politics has had no alternative but to vault off into insanity. They can’t use reality any more.
So any conservative of any ability over the last 20 years has seen the way the wind is blowing and joined the Democrats or the Labour Party instead, wherein they have steadily worked to expel all the leftists, and by now, have more or less succeeded.
They have used arguments of broad churches and consensus politics to achieve this, but it’s been notable all along that the broad church and consensus must include everyone other than socialists. Socialists are told to take the back seat for the common good, and because we all like ideas of collaboration and pluralism, we agreed.
So: the rich have captured the historically leftist parties, as it was inevitable that they would.
We can see from Starmer’s first couple of months in office where his government will take us: war, genocide, corruption and austerity. Democrats take note. Your party is dead. You must abandon it. It has been colonised by your enemies.
The Green Party might be holding up for now (I don’t know so much about the American Green Party) but this will only become temporary: if it starts to go anywhere the conservatives will take it too. Nevertheless, ride it for now and simultaneously be starting the next vehicle.
Substack is working for now, but we should already be starting to move to the next platform, because it will only be a matter of time.
They are powerful and we are weak. They are massive and we are small. But this brings advantages: they are lumbering and we are agile: they are slow and we are fast.
If you haven’t seen Watership Down, I recommend it, the most complete version you can find. But the key line is: if they catch us, they will kill us. But first they have to catch us.
The Democrats are not a workers' party, you liar, and they didn't expel anyone, they just lost.
It's also very dehumanizing to call a whole group of people evil and dismiss us. We want no part in these wars.
Obviously normal members of the public are not comparable in their evil to the empire managers driving the machine. I'm talking about how the empire uses political parties to accomplish its goals, not the individual members of the public.
Members of the public are not comparable in their evil, but they are complicit, just as the German public were during the Third Reich.
We look back in history and wonder how those non evil members of the public allowed the Third Reich to succeed. They did so by failing to oppose the right wing, being passive, just like how the Democrats passively oppose Republicans, scared of offering anything too radical because of what the opposition might say.
There are real parallels in current US politics to the politics of 1930's Germany.
For months, as I have watched what is happening in Gaza, and the response of the west (and especially how ordinary people in the west have just gone along with their political leaders), I have felt that it is uncannily like what happened in 1930s Germany.
That would be left wing. Socialists, fascists are left wing.
Short explanation:
https://etherzone.com/are-you-right-or-are-you-left/
I don't think you know or understand what "fascism" is. Try looking up some NON far-right and alt-right sources...
HOW That would be left wing
Fascists are not left wing they are right wing
And the definition of right wing is wrong there is a right wing
You are not a German, shut up and separate those sites like you are a liar
The doctorate is the right wing and democracy is the left wing and that is known you are an ignorant American in history and stop the American centralism and the definition of left wing is wrong and the constitution is a religious thing and that means a religious government and the republic is democracy
The constitution is not a republic you ignorant Yankee
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" you liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship you idiot
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum
Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" You liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship You idiot
That's not Short explanation That's the sites Lies and Yankee ignorant in political science like you
American centralism ignorant like youHOW That would be left wing
Fascists are not left wing they are right wing
And the definition of right wing is wrong there is a right wing
You are not a German, shut up and separate those sites like you are a liar
The doctorate is the right wing and democracy is the left wing and that is known you are an ignorant American in history and stop the American centralism and the definition of left wing is wrong and the constitution is a religious thing and that means a religious government and the republic is democracy
The constitution is not a republic you ignorant Yankee
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" you liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship you idiot
HOW I reiterate, then: Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" on the leftwing of our continuum
Your personal opinion is not a fact and Dictatorship is not Fascism is much closer to "Dictatorship" than it is to "US CONSTITUTION Put it near "Dictatorship" You liar The Constitution is an illegitimate Dictatorship You idiot
That's not Short explanation That's the sites Lies and Yankee ignorant in political science like you
American centralism ignorant like you
>>"It's also very dehumanizing to call a whole group of people evil and dismiss us."
Are you even remotely self-aware of what you are saying?
The Israelis, Zionists, and supporters of these 2 groups have been "DEHUMANIZING" Palestinians and Arabs for 75+ years now. And you're crying about what Caitlin is saying about Republicans ???
The truth hurts. Republicans and Democrats don't have solutions. They maintain the status quo hoping that over time the problems will go away all by themselves. Neither has have the intellect nor the courage to propose anything different because of the pressure from Big Money and Lobbying.
Can't both be right?
then you'll have to stop aligning with/voting for republicans or democrats, imo.
It's not a question of aligning and/or voting. The discussion is re Caitlin's post and her generalizations which contradict many people's experiences. Simple as that.
republicans own the brand name. if one doesn't support the genocide, one should stop calling oneself a republican, imo. one should invent one's own brand of conservatism.
You started the thread with both Rs and Ds, and are finishing it with Rs alone. I wonder what changed as I haven't mentioned any of those in my reply. Care to explain?
As you can see, many here cut in, drop a turd and then disappear. Hope you're not going to be one of them.
The things you vote for or support determine how evil you are. If you're voting for people who don't offer a way of stopping evil other than using evil to fight evil, you're voting for evil.
You're simplifying and misrepresenting "EVIL".
One can be naive, ill-informed, mis-informed, and many other things and NOT be evil. Such a person can vote for EVIL candidates while not being aware of the 'evilness' of such candidates. In fact, that is more often the case than not. Most ordinary people are NOT evil, yet they often end up voting for people in positions of power and authority that ARE evil.
You and one like stupid there is one party EVIL
Lots of very good people on the right. To the extent there is any critical thought or challenge to power remaining in this world, it is almost entirely on the right. The left as a legitimate political force died under the neoliberal consensus. But just when things were getting interesting, just as the deep state and its satanic science were being exposed, the puppeteers started this “brown man bad” show back up and the right, suffering from millennia of brainwashing masquerading as religion, fell for it hook, line, and sinker. It’s very upsetting, but it fits the pattern. What the right will never understand is that there is no peace without embracing the other. They define themselves by enmity to the other, and because of that they are easily led astray. All the puppeteers have to do is fabricate or exaggerate a controversy about feminine men, masculine women, brown murderers, black petty crime, etc, and off the right goes chasing the rabbit and reconfirming for the rest of us why we hated them in the first place.
There is no such thing as satanic science. You are religiously ignorant and you call anything satanic. There is no such thing as neoliberal consensus
Precisely!
And yet the Democrats are “a political party whose SOLE PURPOSE is to ensure the triumph of evil?” What then is the GOP? The evil incarnate which the Dem’s sole purpose is to ensure triumphs?
>>"At least Republicans care about things that really affect our everyday life"
HaHaHa - I didn't know you were a Comedian. Good one though.
Do you even know any Republicans? Or do you judge them by what the media say?
I think you misinterpreted my comment. Let me rephrase it.
If Republicans (or Democrats) care about things that really affect our everyday life -> then they would be supporting Jill Stein or Cornell West or Claudia De la Cruz and NOT a Republican party or Democratic party candidate.
I myself am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I know quite a few (personally) on both sides of the aisle, and also a few that are NOT on the US Team D/Team R political spectrum.
"I think you misinterpreted my comment" - and the confirmation of your total nuttiness is now complete chokaski.
Your comment was "HaHaHa - I didn't know you were a Comedian. Good one though."
do you support Trump?
You asked me recently. If you expect me to be a broken record then you're mistaken.
At this point in time, they’re being judged by their choice of potus and vpotus candidates. It’s so extreme that I think people expect decent Republicans to leave the Party.
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So Ms. VP. No Palestinian speaker allowed. OK. Is it safe to say that because of the influence of a foreign power, this decision was made. So are you an agent of this foreign power? Have you registered under FARA?
As far as I can see, they are all traitors.
"US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, said: “The 75th anniversary of the adoption of the 1949 Geneva Conventions is a fitting occasion to reaffirm our commitment to respecting international humanitarian law… We call on others to do the same.”
Except Israel."
AntiWar.com
https://original.antiwar.com/rep-john-j-duncan-jr./2024/08/22/us-calls-for-ceasefire-but-keeps-supporting-war/
Blinken is a neocon war monger. Geopolitically ignorant and morally bankrupt.
I think it’s beyond that: it’s to guarantee complicity, which is itself a psyop. The reason almost all American wars have been started by democrats is partly to ensure there is no opposition to it, either in government or on the streets; but also because having voted for genocide, having the blood of all those children on your hands, will affect you.
How do you think the people of Israel became so depraved? Because through their national service they are all forced to be complicit. Similarly, once all the people who ought to believe genocide is unforgivable are guilty of it, the temptation to excuse it and thereby absolve their own guilt will be much stronger, and America will take one more step towards barbarity. Voices reminding everyone of their guilt will become less popular and fascist propaganda more appealing.
It’s not simply that the Democrats prevent you opposing things: they make you guilty of those things which in turn makes you support them.
? Grenada, Panama, Gulf War, Iraq Invasion, Nicaragua. Five in the last forty years. I haven't forgotten Reagan's efforts to make war including subverting the American system of government by selling arms to Iran and looking the other way while crack cocaine was sold in the USA.
Yes, Reagan and Bush II were the only two Republican presidents to have started wars. All the rest (Vietnam, Korea, Iraq I, Ukraine, Libya etc) were started by Democrats.
do you think democrats (used to) have less control over the opposition to war (the public anti-war movements) when the government is taken over by the other wing of the war-duopoly? (also wasn't iraq 1 - 1990-91 - under bush 1?)
Yes, Iraq I was under Bush I. The 91 invasion gets swept under the rug so we don’t see how long it’s been going on.
Colour revolutions. Pakistan. Bangladesh. Ukraine. Philippines....whose next?
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Rs : Sauron
Ds : Saruman