Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley): Six months of this now. Half a year. Half a year of genocide apologia. Half a year of the most outrageous lies you can possibly imagine. Half a year of seeing children’s bodies ripped to pieces and starved to skeletons on our social media feeds.
Perfectly expressed Caitlin . It has been and still is the worst combination of every emotion a human being can experience. And it is unfathomable that this horror is still happening.
The one good thing that is happening now, is this genocide is being televised on the net and many in the world will use you-tube to speak their outrage. Israel will never, Biden and America aside, survive this barbaric assault..
At first, the *entire* establishment was gung-ho Israel. Now, American polling is showing the backlash, the Biden administration is furiously triangulating, and even Chuck Effing Schumer publicly calls for Nutty Yahoo to go. I certainly call that progress.
I think a lot more peoples' asses have now been lit than in 2020. Both through Biden's exposure and in the difficulties of their daily lives, they're a more aware of Biden's character and behavior. His (slow) coming around on Israel simply won't save him; it's a Hail Mary pass, one of several coming.
His character has always been an issue, not just for his son, "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up." Obama said. Obama knew what he was talking about, since Biden's primary interest has always been himself.
I completely disagree since those that are culpable of crimes are not to go unpunished. Would you just want to win in Israel and let Netanyahu off the hook so to speak or should he be held to account for the slaughter of tens of thousands of people and thousands more to come?
"That just means that Netanyahu will be made the scapegoat, as if Zionist atrocities began and ended with him."
But the future of Israel, and its reputation, is unlikely to be like its seven-plus decade past. We've reached a watershed. I point to Caitlin's observation here:
"Every positive change in human behavior is always preceded by an expansion of consciousness, and Gaza is expanding western consciousness like nothing ever before."
It’s not progress. It’s the opposite. Weak minded liberals will vote for Biden now because ‘oh, it’s not his fault how Israel is using our bombs, it’s that evil right winger nutty yahoo. Uncle Joe is a well-meaning progressive, just like I thought.’ It’s all theatre so the laptop libs can sleep at night.
I don't think between now and November people will remain fooled. There's just too many Biden admin f-ups for three years for people to suspend disbelief. After all the Trump-era burns, they're looking more closely at this election. A lot is at stake, even for the ones who ordinarily don't look below the surface.
"I don't think between now and November people will remain fooled."
Only an idiot thinks November means anything. Trump is at least as pro-Israel as Biden. This country is under the control of the Deep State, and the electoral process is dead.
Simply with his mouth, and the TDS reactions, Trump keeps alive the battle against the West's usurpers, even if he does nothing else useful. Israel is just one piece of it. The now-expanded Overton window is worth a lot in peoples' minds.
I think TPTB want to get Trump elected. Their failure to completely discredit him 2015-16 should have been their first clue that something's wrong with the picture, but they keep on keepin' on. So, I think now their goal is just to keep focus on the now-long-running Destruction-of-Democracy campaign on the "evil" Trump and MAGA. Once it's finally realized, in second hapless-Trump term with even bigger bureaucratic rebellions, a Dem win in 2028 will be a Trojan-horse totalitarian finalization, complete with mop-up operation. If so, if you think the jails are full now, wait till then.
But the cancer in MSM is spreading badly, and I don't it's not going to play out as they think.
At first, the *entire* establishment was gung-ho Israel. Now, American polling is showing the backlash, the Biden administration is furiously triangulating, and even Chuck Effing Schumer publicly calls for Nutty Yahoo to go."
All the while, tens of thousands of Palestinians are dying.
What's happening between you and me is that you're answering every post, but your counterreplies are weak, bot or not. I've seen it in weak bots.
So, you're a human, but one with weak counters. OK. Then apparently one who's ferociously upset that your and your compatriots' spin machines just aren't working the way they have been for decades with a largely somnambulent West. So much so that Israel has now badly overplayed its hand, and that all its sausage-making and 3-card monte is exploding outward in technicolor glory for not just to the media-savvy, but the whole rest of the world. Oops. That, or you're hybrid-war mercenary.
But the way we react to what happens in them matters. Israel's deceptions are coming unglued, so can the US's for its population. If the bottom 80% (or 99% or 99.9+%) start seeing their common ground in a big way ...
It's a bad strategy to start conceding that democracy is (effectively) lost, because then we abandon the presumption to it, one that the establishment *still* concedes publicly. We need to use the leverage that the US (the West) are ostensible democracies.
I, and so many others wouldn't call that progress, Anti-Hip, but all part of the plan. "Chuck Schumer" knows his part in the plan and is so good at devious behaviour.
I mean, very good. He's been in US politics a long time and you can guarantee that he has been one of the planners for the Israeli control of US government since day one..
Israel will try and redeem itself after they attack Rafah and pass on all the responsibility to Netanyahu. In other words, they have a scapegoat in sight to TRY and eliminate the crimes of the whole country. And in spite of the odd group of objectors to their current activities in Gaza, well publicised of course, the majority of Netanyahu supporters are still in there, boots and all. They are Israelis. One should remember that fact. Away from the cameras, they would be cheering Netanyahu on to greater heights..
They are, as have been brainwashed into that type of thinking since 1950, 'God's chosen people' and now with the total control of the 330 million people in the USA....and that is TOTAL. No election in November 2024 will change that.
In the USA, the revolution must come from within. Getting rid of 86% of your Jewish-owned politicians. There is the challenge.
Netanyahu.....an old scapegoat trick. Remember the nature of the people with whom the world is dealing with here. Other people mean nothing to them.
From now on I will refer to Israel committing murders. It's nothing like a war, and the word genocide simply means there are lots of murders. Israel is murdering people, lots of them, children and babies and they not only use a gun, but they starve them to death, or make them sick, and at the same time destroy their medical care, so they die. Israel is on a homicidal rampage. Maybe that would give people a better perspective of what they are doing. They do make it personal, four men walking in an open field are shot dead. Some are shot dead because they are hungry and run for food, or an Israeli has a gun and their is a target, often a child.
The crime that is far worse then what Israel is committing - is the entire world is standing idly by and doing absolutely nothing about it other than political posturing and theater. Fast forward 50 years (if civilizations even exist) and how this will be explained when children ask - why didn't anyone stop it?
Well the problem is the world right now is dealing with a psychotic Joffrey Baratheon child called Israel, who is backed by an equally psychotic Cersei Mother - Genocide Joe Biden - both have nuclear weapons. The other day this psychotic child literally bombed an Iranian Embassy in the heart of Syria. Bombing a diplomatic embassy (of a neutral nation) is an almost unheard of act about as far back as you can go in human history - and most certainly is an ACT OF WAR.
Iran could literally now justifiably fire a few missiles back at Israel and destroy anything it wants. But it is not doing so? Why? Because it knows its dealing with a psychopathic Joffrey Baratheon and whack-o-noodle warmongering NeoCons in the US who want to widen a war in the MIddle East especially against Iran.
The pandora's box here - is how do you stop Israel without the nukes flying?
Personally, I'm with you. Fuck the nukes. Is the world really worth saving if we just sit by and let 13,000 children get blown to bits by US weapons and Israeli sadistic savagery? From a moral stand point - I say no. I'd rather we do something and risk it. :( If it means we all go so be it.
For all intents and purposes the USA wants no part of Israel but especially before the election while the entire world has now turned against both. Afterwards, Trump and Bobby Kennedy Jr. are far worst then Biden could ever be.
You mean the general US population. The US Elites and the Oligarchs obviously want more war. The MIC and Wallstreet profits need to be continually fed and justified, as do the careers of the bottom-feeder, corrupt US politicians.
USA is owned by money. Money is the new God of are time. There are plenty of none Zionists who have obscene amounts of money and who have bought US politicians and the Brits as well. Not all globalists are Zionists. Sorry, I'm not going to make the mistake of hanging this genocide all on the "Jews". Not buying it for a second. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.
Sorry BJ. My comment will not end up after yours, sadly. It is the nature of Substack. Continuity, nil..
But your Kennedy comment. How soon did he do a reverse turn at great speed after seemingly being a good chance as President if people remembered his father and his uncle., both a credit to their country. The name alone WAS magic in the US.
But he sold out for a shekel, as I have said many times before.
A disgraced Kennedy.
Now if that doesn't indicate the problems in the USA, nothing does.
I really think Jamenta that this Iran war has been coming for a long long time. Israel will do the dirty work for the USA but behind it all is AIPAC.
USA has lost it's footing (owned by Zionists)
One thing that Americans are so bad on is knowing how other countries 'think.' The Persian empire was a formidable power. Thinking knowledgeable people.
They are not Arabs and they have waited a long time for this.
Because of Biden and the US and all the 'minion' countries we will be at war soon.
Yes but that would be tantamount to saying we can't attack Russia for the exact same reasons and we all know what's happening there as well. Full bombardment. Russia has the largest stockpile of nukes in the world. They also have the most sophisticated arsenal.
They are also deeply rational, and long rooted in their geographic civilisational sphere.
The Israelis are irrationaly insane, and know their roots in the M.E. are extremely shallow.
It would take a great deal to push Russia to start launching nukes, Israel would do it on a whim, believing the USA will protect them from consequences no matter what.
Yes, I think we must conclude that Israelis are experiencing a mass psychosis, one that apparently thrives on their sense of being under seige. (The sane ones have left. Apparently there were half a million of them.) This makes them dangerous not just to the Palestinians but to the world. Their insurance policy of having most American and British pols in their pocket means they’re subject to this psychosis too. Just look at Medea Benjamin chasing them down the halls of Congress and listen to their unapologetic cheerleading for genocide. (Not that these whores were ever principled, but presumably they were at least sane.) It’s a truly dangerous moment. I’ve never seen the opposition of the elites and the people as clearly as I do at this moment.
The CIA budget is in the multiples of $Billions, and the UK and other European countries have strict limits on how much can be spent in elections. They can easily run rings and get their own puppets in place.
And the CIA has Zionazis in 'high places'.
We now see the results of that decades long process of political infiltration.
The Israelis have been a hothouse of propaganda and brainwashing, moving into hyperdrive under Nuttyahoo's regimes.
Would they find utterly loyal psychos to launch nukes at every Western and M.E. capital? Most certainly.
How ironic all the ballyhoo over DPRK and Iran's nuke rograms, when the threat all along has been the USA and its vassals.
The nuclear threat has always been the US and its bootlickers. Remember, what country dropped the only nuclear weapons on civilian targets in a declared war? I'll give you a minute to figure that out... The people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't military targets, sort of like the Gazans aren't military targets.
Totally agree Gnuneo - It's been written if it were anyone else but Putin this would've been over by now as Putin is actually the most disciplined of all - which seems to be quite true, at the moment.
I think when all is said and done - no matter how you look at this, Israel will no longer exist and will finally bring peace to the Middle East. Not only have over a million Israel's fled to Europe and the USA, the economy is in freefall as well. I imagine Israel will be given ample warning to evacuate it's population before it is totally eviscerated. Hezbollah, Iran, Russia, China and Turkey all have the capability to do so. I can't help but wonder if this was the plan from the very beginning. Israel serves no purpose to the USA or anyone else but the land itself is crucial. This war all boils down to the shipping lanes and trade routes not to mention the massive gas field off the coast of Gaza. Is this why the USA empowered Israel with arms so they could eventually throw them under the bus? Less then a month before the October 7th retaliation Biden announced "the launch of a new trade route connecting India to the Middle East and Europe through railways and ports."
You can take it a step further into the theoretical, and wonder if the current depopulation of Ukraine will be followed by some new settlers from a certain failed settler-colony.
And that that is perhaps why Odessa is becoming the potentially nuclear flashpoint.
New Israel would need a port for its sub nukes, right?
What's happening there? Bombing of military targets and facilities, while Ukraine is engaged in deliberate attacks on civilian targets—pure terrorism to lure Russians to retaliate in kind in the hope of drawing in NATO. In Kiev, except for the occasional air sirens, life hasn't changed much.
Gaza is a litmus test: you’re either with conscience and compassion and integrity or you’re a genocide apologist droid psycho. For that clarity I thank you, O people of Gaza. And I thank you, Caitlyn, for your clear eyed writing that inspires me and so many others.
With the latest hospital destruction and murder of patients and staff alike, things have reached a new low. It's so low we run out of language to describe it - corrupt, depraved, brutal are now normalised. Evil is a useless word now. I think the Israelis - the IDF - have reached a point of inhumanity and cruel perversion now that will take them years to recover from - they do not seem to comprehend that effect it is having on their national psyche. They are reducing the rest of to zombies - we walk around pretending to have normal lives while witnessing the most disgusting carnage, seemingly powerless to act against it, a terrible indictment of our world today.
I am with you , chris leeds. Like you I have come to realise that we are running out of language to describe the horrors of the last six months. Words have lost their meaning in relation to the suffering of the Palestinians - even genocide is inadequate to describe their plight. Not only words but the depravity of the Israelis have become normalised. What do we call the Israelis carrying out these despicable crimes - monsters - very inadequate I think. While the Gazans bear the brunt of ultimate cruelty that humanity is capable of, we go round like zombies.
What is surprising is that the Israeli population even when you see them out there protesting, they are not protesting this genocide, since the majority support it. How can you explain that?
No, they want Netanayhu gone and a cease fire in order to get the hostages back. Aaron Mate said as much just the other day. I personally think that's disgusting. If my country were implementing a genocide in my backyard, so to speak, you would hear from me. Biden ass has heard from me for helping to implement one. I don't know if it makes a difference but no one should be silent about this.
Nothing happens when there is just a few. Too be real it's got to be most and even then it's a long shot if the powers that be listen. Yes and good for them.
We've already established in our previous interaction that you struggle with reading comprehension. When I talk about direct action, that's talking about solutions. When I talk about everyone doing everything they can to wake people up from the propaganda matrix so that real revolutionary change becomes possible, that's actively describing a solution that can be implemented right now. Meanwhile you're not doing anything but bitching at people who are actually trying to do something.
agree, but we must remember everything Caitlin writes strikes a cord, otherwise zionists wouldn’t start yapping in the comment section and taking empathetic people like us on. They are outnumbered. All they have is the US and our tax money.
I'll concede on her general "message". But so what?
It's the biggest no-brainer out there -- and that's saying a lot about the current mess in the West -- while she certainly provides new facts, and/or new perspectives, and/or new insights every day.
She's a war correspondent, think of her like that. Very dangerous to go there, since no doubt in time she would be killed. I go to aljazeera everyday, and read almost all the articles. I feel ignoring it is soulless.
IF we don't keep listening to Caitlin it is because we have become 'inured' to this genocide. IF you can't get this into your thick head. Leave. No one is asking you to contribute.
In my honest opinion: Caitlin has been keeping this genocide aiive every fuc88g day.
What are YOU doing?
Yes I do wish this would STOP now. I don't like watching women/babies/young people being blown up and Hospitals smashed up. I don't like seeing people starving OR being run over by bulldozers.
IF this is not upsetting to you I hope one day you will be in the same situation as the Palestinians are.
I have been though wars and coup d'etats which would send many Americans running for the hills.
I don't think she is saying that. No doubt she also goes to alJazeera everyday as well and most who do take it to heart and it hurts, not only because of all the death, but the way it is being implemented which is the most unbearable to witness.
“Every positive change in human behavior is always preceded by an expansion of consciousness, and Gaza is expanding western consciousness like nothing ever before.” — this is all I hold on to, this is the all that’s keeping me afloat. Truth busting out through this horror. Truth has to first see the light before justice even has a chance.
A genocide is so personal. The killing is personal. It's like reading about abused children, abused women, and interesting the statistics given are almost always about the number of dead children and women. Genocide is so up close and personal which intensifies the horror of it and makes those implementing it more hideous. How are they any different from murders?
This may have been true in 2002, but that was before the meteoric rise of China as a super power, the BRI, the formation of BRICS (now including some in the axis of resistance), before the Africans kicked the French out of their country, before Hezbollah was armed to the teeth and before the US backed coup in Ukraine which has led to Russia having the most battle ready and effective army in the world.
The days of Israel and the Empire as a whole are numbered. It's quite a small number.
My outlook is not quite as optimistic. It's a short step, given the apathy over the Gaza Holocaust's horrific toll on citizens and everything that makes life livable, to the deployment of nukes. What's to prevent the Imperial ruling class, when faced with extinction, from letting 'em fly?
My outlook is not optimistic at all. The climate crisis that these wars and opposition to green policies are significantly contributing to, which will be affecting the poorest first and worst, is going to be really terrible.
However, I think before that happens we will see the end of Israel. As a self fulfilling prophecy, as Zionists identify as a persecuted people, one day soon they are really going to get it.
As regards nukes, no one in power is phased by them, as they weren't about 'covid' either. I think that they know nukes are just an effective, and lucrative, deterrent when needed as an excuse to end wars etc. As with 'covid' the evidence for their existence looks very sketchy to me https://jowaller.substack.com/p/just-like-scary-contagions-and-911
It seems almost cruel and disrespectful to speak of a silver lining to this genocide, but if we could without in any way minimizing the apocalypse being carried out there, it would no doubt be the millions of young Americans demonstrating against it over and over and over. The “grownups” censor their information sources, try to convince them to go back to having their lives swallowed up by school, and attempt to box in their protests with petty rules, but they’re not having it. Though many of us oldsters are out there too, young energy and defiance are the engine of this movement, and I am humbled and inspired by them. Every one of us who is gutted by this deranged rampage should thank, support and encourage these young people who’ve overcome so much condescension and gaslighting to do what Finklestein has pointed out doesn’t really have much in the way of benefit for them. Like Caitlin’s refusal to look away, theirs gives me hope for the future. I hope and expect that millions of new and lifelong activists have been minted by this unforgivable violence, and we’re going to need them. Let’s remind these angry young people how much we appreciate and value what they’re doing.
There are no words. Seeing the pictures of the human catastrophe seeing children dying and mothers crying it’s absolutely stunning to me the people who are driving this atrocity (even that isn’t a strong enough word) genocide can sleep. There are so many of them! They all know and they keep lying. There are people in my life who can’t understand why I care? They wonder why I let this bother me. it’s all just so sick.
I empathize with you Leslie. I'm going through pretty much the same thing. People (friends/relatives/family) keep telling me to ignore everything, to not look, to not let it bother me, to divert my attention elsewhere. BUT I JUST CAN'T! I don't know why. This bothers me more than anything else ever has in my life. It has changed me. I can't go back to pretending that the world has not been changed forever by this Genocide and all the perpetrators of it (and humanity in general).
My dear friend Gypsy. As one gets older the less friends we have. I have cut family out of my life including my son and sister. I could not cope with being HURT whenever I spoke to them. It's a question of survival.
It’s super difficult to deal with but it’s important to know you are not alone! When the veil comes off it’s completely disorienting. Then when you see clearly and start seeing what’s been happening for so many years of war crimes that have been perpetrated by the empire involving so many countries and lives lost it is all so overwhelming. But the lies the murder of innocent people women and children all of it.
Thank you, Caitlin, for your summary of the appalling ongoing genocidal massacre. Is the west ever going to wake up to the reality of what it openly supports???
Bless you Caitlin, for being a conscience. You are like someone watching the trucks roll up to Auschwitz and keeping toll for the victims.
If only one day the perps faced prosecution for all this... but we know that they won't. Anymore than Queen Victoria was ever prosecuted for the crimes of the British Empire.
Perfectly expressed Caitlin . It has been and still is the worst combination of every emotion a human being can experience. And it is unfathomable that this horror is still happening.
That is the point. The point of torture is to show the victim that "I can do anything I want to with you, and you cannot do a thing about it."
Exactly. The circus continues.
The one good thing that is happening now, is this genocide is being televised on the net and many in the world will use you-tube to speak their outrage. Israel will never, Biden and America aside, survive this barbaric assault..
"And it is unfathomable that this horror is still happening."
No one will stop it...only talk about it.
Nope. It's slowly but steadily coming around.
At first, the *entire* establishment was gung-ho Israel. Now, American polling is showing the backlash, the Biden administration is furiously triangulating, and even Chuck Effing Schumer publicly calls for Nutty Yahoo to go. I certainly call that progress.
That just means that Netanyahu will be made the scapegoat, as if Zionist atrocities began and ended with him.
Correct. ALL the Zionist lining up to be the next purveyors of genocide!
I think a lot more peoples' asses have now been lit than in 2020. Both through Biden's exposure and in the difficulties of their daily lives, they're a more aware of Biden's character and behavior. His (slow) coming around on Israel simply won't save him; it's a Hail Mary pass, one of several coming.
His character has always been an issue, not just for his son, "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up." Obama said. Obama knew what he was talking about, since Biden's primary interest has always been himself.
Fran. Every image (recently) of Biden has had Obama in the background! Who is running things in the US. It is not the old man!
There are many that deserve blame but if you know his history he indeed deserves much of the blame.
I am not interested in blame but in winning.
I don't care about winning. I just want them to stop killing people. I want justice.
I completely disagree since those that are culpable of crimes are not to go unpunished. Would you just want to win in Israel and let Netanyahu off the hook so to speak or should he be held to account for the slaughter of tens of thousands of people and thousands more to come?
Read my comment above Fran?
"That just means that Netanyahu will be made the scapegoat, as if Zionist atrocities began and ended with him."
But the future of Israel, and its reputation, is unlikely to be like its seven-plus decade past. We've reached a watershed. I point to Caitlin's observation here:
"Every positive change in human behavior is always preceded by an expansion of consciousness, and Gaza is expanding western consciousness like nothing ever before."
Would to God that you prove correct.
It’s not progress. It’s the opposite. Weak minded liberals will vote for Biden now because ‘oh, it’s not his fault how Israel is using our bombs, it’s that evil right winger nutty yahoo. Uncle Joe is a well-meaning progressive, just like I thought.’ It’s all theatre so the laptop libs can sleep at night.
I don't think between now and November people will remain fooled. There's just too many Biden admin f-ups for three years for people to suspend disbelief. After all the Trump-era burns, they're looking more closely at this election. A lot is at stake, even for the ones who ordinarily don't look below the surface.
"I don't think between now and November people will remain fooled."
Only an idiot thinks November means anything. Trump is at least as pro-Israel as Biden. This country is under the control of the Deep State, and the electoral process is dead.
The 'deep state' is: AIPAC
Your pseudonym is spot-on !!👍👍
Simply with his mouth, and the TDS reactions, Trump keeps alive the battle against the West's usurpers, even if he does nothing else useful. Israel is just one piece of it. The now-expanded Overton window is worth a lot in peoples' minds.
I think TPTB want to get Trump elected. Their failure to completely discredit him 2015-16 should have been their first clue that something's wrong with the picture, but they keep on keepin' on. So, I think now their goal is just to keep focus on the now-long-running Destruction-of-Democracy campaign on the "evil" Trump and MAGA. Once it's finally realized, in second hapless-Trump term with even bigger bureaucratic rebellions, a Dem win in 2028 will be a Trojan-horse totalitarian finalization, complete with mop-up operation. If so, if you think the jails are full now, wait till then.
But the cancer in MSM is spreading badly, and I don't it's not going to play out as they think.
There is NOTHING 'at stake' Anti-Hip.
The US is finished!
Well, ok, sure, give up ...
Who cares. US could use a revolution. It's coming.
Wars perpertrated by the US for over 40yrs. Time/Karma comes for us all.
I’m ready Jenny.
"Nope. It's slowly but steadily coming around.
At first, the *entire* establishment was gung-ho Israel. Now, American polling is showing the backlash, the Biden administration is furiously triangulating, and even Chuck Effing Schumer publicly calls for Nutty Yahoo to go."
All the while, tens of thousands of Palestinians are dying.
" I certainly call that progress."
I'm sure the Palestinians don't.
Hmm. You certainly *sound* like a programmed bot. We humans can see through the "logic" of your responses.
"Hmm. You certainly *sound* like a programmed bot. We humans can see through the "logic" of your responses."
When your position is untenable, claim that the antagonist is a bot. LOL
You're not a bot, you're just a cynical nihilistic asshole
What's happening between you and me is that you're answering every post, but your counterreplies are weak, bot or not. I've seen it in weak bots.
So, you're a human, but one with weak counters. OK. Then apparently one who's ferociously upset that your and your compatriots' spin machines just aren't working the way they have been for decades with a largely somnambulent West. So much so that Israel has now badly overplayed its hand, and that all its sausage-making and 3-card monte is exploding outward in technicolor glory for not just to the media-savvy, but the whole rest of the world. Oops. That, or you're hybrid-war mercenary.
What a mess, huh?
You certainly don't sound human to me!
"You certainly don't sound human to me!"
You live to virtue signal...without it, you are nothing.
The US elections are only a form of deception, we have no choice the winner is predetermined.
But the way we react to what happens in them matters. Israel's deceptions are coming unglued, so can the US's for its population. If the bottom 80% (or 99% or 99.9+%) start seeing their common ground in a big way ...
NO. Too late. Forever wars and millions killed in the name of DEMOCRACY!
It's a bad strategy to start conceding that democracy is (effectively) lost, because then we abandon the presumption to it, one that the establishment *still* concedes publicly. We need to use the leverage that the US (the West) are ostensible democracies.
Too much work. Yes I completely agree. Fools paradise.
I, and so many others wouldn't call that progress, Anti-Hip, but all part of the plan. "Chuck Schumer" knows his part in the plan and is so good at devious behaviour.
I mean, very good. He's been in US politics a long time and you can guarantee that he has been one of the planners for the Israeli control of US government since day one..
Israel will try and redeem itself after they attack Rafah and pass on all the responsibility to Netanyahu. In other words, they have a scapegoat in sight to TRY and eliminate the crimes of the whole country. And in spite of the odd group of objectors to their current activities in Gaza, well publicised of course, the majority of Netanyahu supporters are still in there, boots and all. They are Israelis. One should remember that fact. Away from the cameras, they would be cheering Netanyahu on to greater heights..
They are, as have been brainwashed into that type of thinking since 1950, 'God's chosen people' and now with the total control of the 330 million people in the USA....and that is TOTAL. No election in November 2024 will change that.
In the USA, the revolution must come from within. Getting rid of 86% of your Jewish-owned politicians. There is the challenge.
Netanyahu.....an old scapegoat trick. Remember the nature of the people with whom the world is dealing with here. Other people mean nothing to them.
(see IDF killings. in Gaza)
I hope Schumer does go, because I don't trust him and fear everything he says only provides lip service to his own career.
What difference will it make Fran if Schumer goes?
Sorry my computer put everything in spam. I don't think it would make a difference I just never liked him. He's a phony liberal.
From now on I will refer to Israel committing murders. It's nothing like a war, and the word genocide simply means there are lots of murders. Israel is murdering people, lots of them, children and babies and they not only use a gun, but they starve them to death, or make them sick, and at the same time destroy their medical care, so they die. Israel is on a homicidal rampage. Maybe that would give people a better perspective of what they are doing. They do make it personal, four men walking in an open field are shot dead. Some are shot dead because they are hungry and run for food, or an Israeli has a gun and their is a target, often a child.
Absolutely!
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/libertina-and-libertine-grim
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/paparazzis-after-us
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/suffer-well
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/breathe-is-the-cure
The crime that is far worse then what Israel is committing - is the entire world is standing idly by and doing absolutely nothing about it other than political posturing and theater. Fast forward 50 years (if civilizations even exist) and how this will be explained when children ask - why didn't anyone stop it?
That's the real crime here!
Well the problem is the world right now is dealing with a psychotic Joffrey Baratheon child called Israel, who is backed by an equally psychotic Cersei Mother - Genocide Joe Biden - both have nuclear weapons. The other day this psychotic child literally bombed an Iranian Embassy in the heart of Syria. Bombing a diplomatic embassy (of a neutral nation) is an almost unheard of act about as far back as you can go in human history - and most certainly is an ACT OF WAR.
Iran could literally now justifiably fire a few missiles back at Israel and destroy anything it wants. But it is not doing so? Why? Because it knows its dealing with a psychopathic Joffrey Baratheon and whack-o-noodle warmongering NeoCons in the US who want to widen a war in the MIddle East especially against Iran.
The pandora's box here - is how do you stop Israel without the nukes flying?
Personally, I'm with you. Fuck the nukes. Is the world really worth saving if we just sit by and let 13,000 children get blown to bits by US weapons and Israeli sadistic savagery? From a moral stand point - I say no. I'd rather we do something and risk it. :( If it means we all go so be it.
Israel is trying to bait Iran into war so that it can run screaming to its American thug,
If this provocation doesn't get Israel the desired result, then it will simply behave more outrageously.
I fear you might be right. :(
To me, it's fairly obvious.
Yes. I have been saying this for years.
Apart from Russia/China the US has been gunning for Iran.
I suspect this war will be a huge conflagration that in the end NO country will win.
What the US has never learned is 'forward thinking!'
Iran is ready and waiting.
From thr neocon point of view, Iraq and Libya and Syria all turned out just fine.
Screaming what to it's American thug?
For all intents and purposes the USA wants no part of Israel but especially before the election while the entire world has now turned against both. Afterwards, Trump and Bobby Kennedy Jr. are far worst then Biden could ever be.
Since when did people of influence and authority give a rat's ass what the people want?
You mean the general US population. The US Elites and the Oligarchs obviously want more war. The MIC and Wallstreet profits need to be continually fed and justified, as do the careers of the bottom-feeder, corrupt US politicians.
Jamenta. You still have not taken this in.
USA is owned by Zionists!
USA is owned by money. Money is the new God of are time. There are plenty of none Zionists who have obscene amounts of money and who have bought US politicians and the Brits as well. Not all globalists are Zionists. Sorry, I'm not going to make the mistake of hanging this genocide all on the "Jews". Not buying it for a second. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.
Sorry BJ. My comment will not end up after yours, sadly. It is the nature of Substack. Continuity, nil..
But your Kennedy comment. How soon did he do a reverse turn at great speed after seemingly being a good chance as President if people remembered his father and his uncle., both a credit to their country. The name alone WAS magic in the US.
But he sold out for a shekel, as I have said many times before.
A disgraced Kennedy.
Now if that doesn't indicate the problems in the USA, nothing does.
Contrarian . . . . I totally agree.
I really think Jamenta that this Iran war has been coming for a long long time. Israel will do the dirty work for the USA but behind it all is AIPAC.
USA has lost it's footing (owned by Zionists)
One thing that Americans are so bad on is knowing how other countries 'think.' The Persian empire was a formidable power. Thinking knowledgeable people.
They are not Arabs and they have waited a long time for this.
Because of Biden and the US and all the 'minion' countries we will be at war soon.
WMDs is the reason no-one is doing anything about it.
No, American power and its readiness to punish anyone that annoys its Israeli pet is the problem.
Without the nukes, US warships and carriers would have been rusting on the sea-bed for the past decade, and that problem wouln't exist.
It's the retal that worries people.
The United States has many levers that are not nuclear.
Maybe it’s the other way round.
Yes but that would be tantamount to saying we can't attack Russia for the exact same reasons and we all know what's happening there as well. Full bombardment. Russia has the largest stockpile of nukes in the world. They also have the most sophisticated arsenal.
They are also deeply rational, and long rooted in their geographic civilisational sphere.
The Israelis are irrationaly insane, and know their roots in the M.E. are extremely shallow.
It would take a great deal to push Russia to start launching nukes, Israel would do it on a whim, believing the USA will protect them from consequences no matter what.
Yes, I think we must conclude that Israelis are experiencing a mass psychosis, one that apparently thrives on their sense of being under seige. (The sane ones have left. Apparently there were half a million of them.) This makes them dangerous not just to the Palestinians but to the world. Their insurance policy of having most American and British pols in their pocket means they’re subject to this psychosis too. Just look at Medea Benjamin chasing them down the halls of Congress and listen to their unapologetic cheerleading for genocide. (Not that these whores were ever principled, but presumably they were at least sane.) It’s a truly dangerous moment. I’ve never seen the opposition of the elites and the people as clearly as I do at this moment.
The CIA budget is in the multiples of $Billions, and the UK and other European countries have strict limits on how much can be spent in elections. They can easily run rings and get their own puppets in place.
And the CIA has Zionazis in 'high places'.
We now see the results of that decades long process of political infiltration.
The Israelis have been a hothouse of propaganda and brainwashing, moving into hyperdrive under Nuttyahoo's regimes.
Would they find utterly loyal psychos to launch nukes at every Western and M.E. capital? Most certainly.
How ironic all the ballyhoo over DPRK and Iran's nuke rograms, when the threat all along has been the USA and its vassals.
The nuclear threat has always been the US and its bootlickers. Remember, what country dropped the only nuclear weapons on civilian targets in a declared war? I'll give you a minute to figure that out... The people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't military targets, sort of like the Gazans aren't military targets.
Totally agree Gnuneo - It's been written if it were anyone else but Putin this would've been over by now as Putin is actually the most disciplined of all - which seems to be quite true, at the moment.
I think when all is said and done - no matter how you look at this, Israel will no longer exist and will finally bring peace to the Middle East. Not only have over a million Israel's fled to Europe and the USA, the economy is in freefall as well. I imagine Israel will be given ample warning to evacuate it's population before it is totally eviscerated. Hezbollah, Iran, Russia, China and Turkey all have the capability to do so. I can't help but wonder if this was the plan from the very beginning. Israel serves no purpose to the USA or anyone else but the land itself is crucial. This war all boils down to the shipping lanes and trade routes not to mention the massive gas field off the coast of Gaza. Is this why the USA empowered Israel with arms so they could eventually throw them under the bus? Less then a month before the October 7th retaliation Biden announced "the launch of a new trade route connecting India to the Middle East and Europe through railways and ports."
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/11/middleeast/us-india-gulf-europe-corridor-mime-intl/index.html
You can take it a step further into the theoretical, and wonder if the current depopulation of Ukraine will be followed by some new settlers from a certain failed settler-colony.
And that that is perhaps why Odessa is becoming the potentially nuclear flashpoint.
New Israel would need a port for its sub nukes, right?
Just theoretical blue sky thinking, nothing more.
The Black Sea coast up to Romania will be Russian. You can take it to the bank.
What's happening there? Bombing of military targets and facilities, while Ukraine is engaged in deliberate attacks on civilian targets—pure terrorism to lure Russians to retaliate in kind in the hope of drawing in NATO. In Kiev, except for the occasional air sirens, life hasn't changed much.
Completely agree.
You disagree with me when I say the same thing.
I think comments are being mixed up.
Most of the time you need to put the name of the person you are replying to at the top left.
I think that is such a good idea because too often I don't know who these people are responding to. Lines just don't do it.
That would help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWFepc_8GE
excellent thank you
You're welcome.. Yo could really like him. Honest.
BJ. You are right. The major factor in this whole pathetic drama.
The rest of the world
Right. So long as you're able to unburden yourself.
Gaza is a litmus test: you’re either with conscience and compassion and integrity or you’re a genocide apologist droid psycho. For that clarity I thank you, O people of Gaza. And I thank you, Caitlyn, for your clear eyed writing that inspires me and so many others.
With the latest hospital destruction and murder of patients and staff alike, things have reached a new low. It's so low we run out of language to describe it - corrupt, depraved, brutal are now normalised. Evil is a useless word now. I think the Israelis - the IDF - have reached a point of inhumanity and cruel perversion now that will take them years to recover from - they do not seem to comprehend that effect it is having on their national psyche. They are reducing the rest of to zombies - we walk around pretending to have normal lives while witnessing the most disgusting carnage, seemingly powerless to act against it, a terrible indictment of our world today.
I am with you , chris leeds. Like you I have come to realise that we are running out of language to describe the horrors of the last six months. Words have lost their meaning in relation to the suffering of the Palestinians - even genocide is inadequate to describe their plight. Not only words but the depravity of the Israelis have become normalised. What do we call the Israelis carrying out these despicable crimes - monsters - very inadequate I think. While the Gazans bear the brunt of ultimate cruelty that humanity is capable of, we go round like zombies.
Yes Indu I agree BUT who is supplying the weapons?
well - it's us, shamefully. However we only have to look at Rwanda to see that hatred breeds the capacity for much more direct violence
Yes and the British want to export all illegal aliens to Rawanda! Next genocide?
What is surprising is that the Israeli population even when you see them out there protesting, they are not protesting this genocide, since the majority support it. How can you explain that?
they are suffering a mass psychosis
No, they want Netanayhu gone and a cease fire in order to get the hostages back. Aaron Mate said as much just the other day. I personally think that's disgusting. If my country were implementing a genocide in my backyard, so to speak, you would hear from me. Biden ass has heard from me for helping to implement one. I don't know if it makes a difference but no one should be silent about this.
yes there are some Israelis protesting against the violence - few, but very brave
Nothing happens when there is just a few. Too be real it's got to be most and even then it's a long shot if the powers that be listen. Yes and good for them.
Good. But who reads the letters. All Biden has to do is look out of his bullet proof window and see people in the streets. US is OWNED by Zionists.
I never liked him. always self serving and never could be trusted with the truth. Well, that are certainly owned by AIPAC. That is going to change.
Well said Chris Leeds!
The west should hangs its head. in shame
It must be so difficult Caitlin for you to continue your narratives every day BUT we are all grateful and thank you.
Most of us are trying hard to live our lives BUT this genocide is having serious side effects for a huge number of people including me.
Back to my book for some sanity.
"It must be so difficult Caitlin for you to continue your narratives every day BUT we are all grateful and thank you."
Why would it be difficult for her to write the same message every day for six months?
"Most of us are trying hard to live our lives BUT this genocide is having serious side effects for a huge number of people including me."
In other words, I wish this would stop, because it is upsetting me.
No matter how many times you bitch at me to shut up, I'm not going to.
This Realist guy copied my comment and then turned it on me.This suggests to me only one thing he is a genocide activist.
"No matter how many times you bitch at me to shut up, I'm not going to."
Show where I told you to shut up!!!
My complaint is you never have a goddamn solution. Talk is cheap.
I propose solutions constantly. Your complaint is that I won't shut up.
"I propose solutions constantly. Your complaint is that I won't shut up."
That is bullshit! I asked you to show an example of me telling you to shut up, but you didn't because you couldn't.
List the last example in which you provided a viable solution.
We've already established in our previous interaction that you struggle with reading comprehension. When I talk about direct action, that's talking about solutions. When I talk about everyone doing everything they can to wake people up from the propaganda matrix so that real revolutionary change becomes possible, that's actively describing a solution that can be implemented right now. Meanwhile you're not doing anything but bitching at people who are actually trying to do something.
One of the things you have not "GOT" here MR Realist is so many people because of Caitling have come up with solutions which you disregard.
Protest outside arms manufacturers/don't let people make these killing machines.
Protest wherever you can.
Write letters.
Comment/comment and comment.
My last question to you is why are YOU here?
Like every other Zionist, "Realist', you are an empty, cowardly little husk.
agree, but we must remember everything Caitlin writes strikes a cord, otherwise zionists wouldn’t start yapping in the comment section and taking empathetic people like us on. They are outnumbered. All they have is the US and our tax money.
You're confusing her writing on the same topic with writing the same message.
"You're confusing her writing on the same topic with writing the same message."
No, I'm not. Different words, but the same message.
I'll concede on her general "message". But so what?
It's the biggest no-brainer out there -- and that's saying a lot about the current mess in the West -- while she certainly provides new facts, and/or new perspectives, and/or new insights every day.
"It's the biggest no-brainer out there --"
If it is such a big no-brainer, why repeat it every day for six months?
because it is still going on.
Do us all and yourself a favor: self immolate at the Israeli embassy in DC.
She's a war correspondent, think of her like that. Very dangerous to go there, since no doubt in time she would be killed. I go to aljazeera everyday, and read almost all the articles. I feel ignoring it is soulless.
Why are you here? Realist
IF we don't keep listening to Caitlin it is because we have become 'inured' to this genocide. IF you can't get this into your thick head. Leave. No one is asking you to contribute.
Realist.
In my honest opinion: Caitlin has been keeping this genocide aiive every fuc88g day.
What are YOU doing?
Yes I do wish this would STOP now. I don't like watching women/babies/young people being blown up and Hospitals smashed up. I don't like seeing people starving OR being run over by bulldozers.
IF this is not upsetting to you I hope one day you will be in the same situation as the Palestinians are.
I have been though wars and coup d'etats which would send many Americans running for the hills.
Well said Jenny Stokes. Thank you.
Jenny lets just say he's an insensitive soul. Well, insensitive.
I don't think she is saying that. No doubt she also goes to alJazeera everyday as well and most who do take it to heart and it hurts, not only because of all the death, but the way it is being implemented which is the most unbearable to witness.
“Every positive change in human behavior is always preceded by an expansion of consciousness, and Gaza is expanding western consciousness like nothing ever before.” — this is all I hold on to, this is the all that’s keeping me afloat. Truth busting out through this horror. Truth has to first see the light before justice even has a chance.
A genocide is so personal. The killing is personal. It's like reading about abused children, abused women, and interesting the statistics given are almost always about the number of dead children and women. Genocide is so up close and personal which intensifies the horror of it and makes those implementing it more hideous. How are they any different from murders?
Well said.
Why is it that women and kids suffer the most in wars? Started by predominently men?
I was wondering why so many women and children were being slaughtered myself compared to men. I don't know.
I would be ashamed to be an American over its support for this but I disowned that thuggish monstrosity years ago.
All western countries have supported the empire’s facilitation
No. Ireland and Spain have not.
Nailed again. Hell on earth is sadly appropriate
Our future is Palestine's present.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/03/12/palestine-is-the-world-2002/
This may have been true in 2002, but that was before the meteoric rise of China as a super power, the BRI, the formation of BRICS (now including some in the axis of resistance), before the Africans kicked the French out of their country, before Hezbollah was armed to the teeth and before the US backed coup in Ukraine which has led to Russia having the most battle ready and effective army in the world.
The days of Israel and the Empire as a whole are numbered. It's quite a small number.
My outlook is not quite as optimistic. It's a short step, given the apathy over the Gaza Holocaust's horrific toll on citizens and everything that makes life livable, to the deployment of nukes. What's to prevent the Imperial ruling class, when faced with extinction, from letting 'em fly?
My outlook is not optimistic at all. The climate crisis that these wars and opposition to green policies are significantly contributing to, which will be affecting the poorest first and worst, is going to be really terrible.
However, I think before that happens we will see the end of Israel. As a self fulfilling prophecy, as Zionists identify as a persecuted people, one day soon they are really going to get it.
As regards nukes, no one in power is phased by them, as they weren't about 'covid' either. I think that they know nukes are just an effective, and lucrative, deterrent when needed as an excuse to end wars etc. As with 'covid' the evidence for their existence looks very sketchy to me https://jowaller.substack.com/p/just-like-scary-contagions-and-911
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It seems almost cruel and disrespectful to speak of a silver lining to this genocide, but if we could without in any way minimizing the apocalypse being carried out there, it would no doubt be the millions of young Americans demonstrating against it over and over and over. The “grownups” censor their information sources, try to convince them to go back to having their lives swallowed up by school, and attempt to box in their protests with petty rules, but they’re not having it. Though many of us oldsters are out there too, young energy and defiance are the engine of this movement, and I am humbled and inspired by them. Every one of us who is gutted by this deranged rampage should thank, support and encourage these young people who’ve overcome so much condescension and gaslighting to do what Finklestein has pointed out doesn’t really have much in the way of benefit for them. Like Caitlin’s refusal to look away, theirs gives me hope for the future. I hope and expect that millions of new and lifelong activists have been minted by this unforgivable violence, and we’re going to need them. Let’s remind these angry young people how much we appreciate and value what they’re doing.
Very well said.
There are no words. Seeing the pictures of the human catastrophe seeing children dying and mothers crying it’s absolutely stunning to me the people who are driving this atrocity (even that isn’t a strong enough word) genocide can sleep. There are so many of them! They all know and they keep lying. There are people in my life who can’t understand why I care? They wonder why I let this bother me. it’s all just so sick.
I empathize with you Leslie. I'm going through pretty much the same thing. People (friends/relatives/family) keep telling me to ignore everything, to not look, to not let it bother me, to divert my attention elsewhere. BUT I JUST CAN'T! I don't know why. This bothers me more than anything else ever has in my life. It has changed me. I can't go back to pretending that the world has not been changed forever by this Genocide and all the perpetrators of it (and humanity in general).
Chang, I will never again be the happy and free-spirited woman I once was after this. And shit, I’m only an observer!
I have lost all faith in so-called humanity. One the plus side, I’ve cut a few toxic individuals out of my life.
My dear friend Gypsy. As one gets older the less friends we have. I have cut family out of my life including my son and sister. I could not cope with being HURT whenever I spoke to them. It's a question of survival.
Be safe.
See you soon!
I hope so Jenny!😁
It’s super difficult to deal with but it’s important to know you are not alone! When the veil comes off it’s completely disorienting. Then when you see clearly and start seeing what’s been happening for so many years of war crimes that have been perpetrated by the empire involving so many countries and lives lost it is all so overwhelming. But the lies the murder of innocent people women and children all of it.
Thank you, Caitlin, for your summary of the appalling ongoing genocidal massacre. Is the west ever going to wake up to the reality of what it openly supports???
They knew all along, Jane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvNS6rtqEok&
"Is the west ever going to wake up to the reality of what it openly supports???"
Apparently not; they keep virtue-signaling like everyone on this blog.
Max Blumenthal turns the lights up to max. Worth listening to every second. The cynical monsters in DC are without precedent. https://youtu.be/kS3HOEss9rk?si=kxxo1lDRpyp1KOjq
It's more than I can still muster.
Bless you Caitlin, for being a conscience. You are like someone watching the trucks roll up to Auschwitz and keeping toll for the victims.
If only one day the perps faced prosecution for all this... but we know that they won't. Anymore than Queen Victoria was ever prosecuted for the crimes of the British Empire.
Every head is screwed down so hard after the plandemic no one dares look sideways. We are living in a time of mass deception and mass ignorance