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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

Now for the hard part, UK, Australia, and Canada: Unrecognize Israel!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Unfortunately, that's never going to happen. They might as well unrecognize themselves first.

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A Parseeker's avatar

You hit the nail on the head, Chang! It's all a fucking farce, a theatre of the utterly absurd.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

For what they’ve done those countries deserve to be unrecognized, run the back over to their indigenous populations - at least Canada (where I am) and Australia. The way the recognition was done is another colonial practice. Carney, like Starmer, lied his way into office and has demonstrated, like Starmer, that he is a fascist at heart. Never forget, never forgive.

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MM's avatar
Sep 22Edited

Another excellent post by Caitlin distilling all the bullshit that Israel and the West have been churning out for years (let alone decades) into a depressing, concise summary.

The only thing I would add is another line of "discussion" that goes like this:

Westerner: Well can I at least support a permanent ceasefire to end the genocide?

Israel: What genocide?

But as long as you realize we will:

1) Slander you as anti-semitic

2) Blacklist you

3) Cancel you and then

4) Get you fired...

then go right ahead.

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Gnuneo's avatar

"Zionism" is largely just a code-word for how Western elites have always thought and behaved.

Won't be long - if it's not here already - when you can add "Imprisoned and hanged".

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Just sayn's avatar

We are Already at the public execution as a reminder stage.

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Davina's avatar

I find rather amusing that nonsemites use antisemitism as a way to cow people who know the truth and take it as a compliment.

You'd think they would realise by now we know the only antisemites are the Israelis.

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Eat me's avatar

Go flotilla Go. Brave sailors. Moral honourable people going up against a pathetic vile amoral so called army. The idf cowards and thugs are just itching to murder these brave sailors of the flotilla approaching Gaza. If these brave warriors are hurt by the idf cowards and thugs and pigs, all the online coward fascist sycophants here and elsewhere should be identified and arrested. Fuck off lying Zionist propagandists. May you all rot in hell 🙏

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Well said!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Caitlin, all I can say is this -> the state of Israel needs to be ELIMINATED! (one way or another). The future of humanity and the whole world/planet depends on this! I don't see any other possible positive outcome/future for the rest of us if Israel is allowed to get away with such evil actions that would make even Satan question his own evilness in comparison to Israel's.

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Gnuneo's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5k3N1A4s7wI

Course, the survivors write the 'histories'..

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Lord Have Mercy, Gnuneo, the comment section under this video!!

No one realizes that the whole kit and caboodle was a myth and literally impossible except those who believed that the world started 6 thousand years ago and there were only a few thousand people on earth.

Skip the fact that unless Noah had a tranquilizer, no way on God's green earth was he and his wife, his sons and their wives were going to successfully husbandry all the different animals and keep them fed for 40 days. Not to mention some of those animals were natural predators to the other animals. Did you ever hear Bill Cosby's bit called "Noah"? It's hysterical and it asks the questions the cult followers refuse to ask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgsFCyD4nEw

But let's not use logic, logic has not place in a biblical text of inexplainable allegories.

And let's not even touch on the re-institution of rampant incest that had to take place in order to repopulate the earth again.... after the first rampant incest with Adam and Eve.

At least us pagans know that the stories should not be taken literally, but are there for the moral.

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Gnuneo's avatar

Weeellll, actually the "Flood" myth is thousands of years older than the Hebrew religion-creating scholars.

Personally, I think it came from the events at the end of the Dryas (See Graham Hancock or several other scholars), where the sea level DID rise very considerably in a geological eye-blink. It's when Dogger Bank was flooded, the highly fertile lands that is now the Persian Gulf were inundated, and indeed would have been an event experienced all over the World.

So I think the story has some solid ground behind it, to be ironic.

Needless to say, the event has Sweet FA to do with JHVH, or his tantrums.

The only point of interest is that the Hebrews rewrote the story to illustrate the nature of their "Personal God", a nature which they are embodying in a rather unedifying way today.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Interesting, Gnuneo, I am going to do some asking of my Nigerian cohorts to see if they have a flood story as well. I wonder if the flood you mentioned was blamed on Global Warming, LOL.

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Gnuneo's avatar

Well, I suppose ironically enough that event WAS caused by Global Warming! :)

Non-anthropo-caused global warming, to be sure. Unless a super-duper advanced human civilisation of the time caused it.

Which TBF Plato's 'Atlantis myth' DOES claim.

And there might be evidence to back those claims up. I don't mean about the "floods" - that's pretty much accepted now by everyone except the academic vested interests, and as per usual that will change when they die off and younger researchers take over.

But that "Super-duper advanced civilisation".

This is a remarkable video. Not at all woo, although the topic is often lumped as that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqGoaWPzxd0

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Just sayn's avatar

Throughout history all such have met their end. Stalin,Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini. It is telling that in the information age of the 21st century this Holocaust is 2 years old and no country has done a positive ACTION other than talk.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

It is beyond telling...it is incredulous. I would have never believed it had I not seen/experienced it myself. My WHOLE perception of the world (and humanity) has been changed...

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Just sayn's avatar

I came to realize that many words amount to the same thing but bring different meanings to each listener. Such as cult, cartel, cabal, Mafia, Government there is little difference. All are coercive violent thieves and often murderous. Politicians can not be trusted with your power your money your life or your children's minds.

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Richard Parker's avatar

Surreal.

On the Tubes I came across a video.

It showed the jews relaxing on a long beach, as if there was nothing abnormal taking place 60 kms away in Gaza, probably taking a rest break before heading back to plant explosives.

It showed a market, piled high with fresh food, vegetables, fruits, absolutely no shortage for the jews. A few kilometers away these VERY SAME FUCKERS are enticing starving Palestinians to crawl out at allotted times, begging for food, and then shooting them.

It showed a modern city, roads, vehicles, nice buildings, homes, where the fuckers go to relax after a hard day's work destroying the lives and homes of Palestinians.

It's very hard to wrap my brain around the utter inhumanity and callousness of the chosen race.

If the human body had something like this, it would be called a cancer, to be excised, irradiated and eliminated.

For the rest of my life I will detest the Israelis and the 80 million Christian Zionists. There can surely be no redemption for them anywhere on Earth or Heaven.

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X K's avatar

"If the human body had something like this, it would be called a cancer, to be excised, irradiated and eliminated."

Of course you must have seen "Alien."

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Whatistobedone's avatar

Me, too.

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Just sayn's avatar

Edgar Rice Burroughs,The Gods of Mars.

"The whole fabric of our religions are based on superstitious beliefs in lies that have been foisted upon us for ages by those directly above us.

To whose personal profit and aggrandizement it is to have us continue to believe as they wish us to believe."

Superstition is a very powerful tool which is why those cults, cartels known as 'government' use them to their advantage throughout history. For GOD and Country, In GOD we Trust , God's Chosen people. Pure BS

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Richard Parker's avatar

Yup, it's a weird phenomenon.

I was about 15 when I came across an article about gods and occult. This was 40 years ago, way before the internet. I mentioned that I didn't believe in god anymore to a friend.

This blew up and I was given lectures by my mother, father and schoolteacher.

"How can you not believe in god? We took you to church every Sunday for years".

After that I generally kept quiet, as people get very upset if their religious beliefs are questioned.

As you state, it's a very powerful tool used to control and exploit people.

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Just sayn's avatar

The 2 things one should Never Discuss but absolutely need to be discussed are Religion and Politics. Avoiding the subject subjects us to tyranny.

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A Parseeker's avatar

When someone says, "I support Israel". Complete their sentence. They are saying "I support Israel's right to genocide."

Ergo, by law and by all that's decent and just and good, Israel has no right to exist. Any genocidal state that's by nature genocidal, that cannot exist except to be genocidal, has revoked its right to exist.

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X K's avatar

"When someone says, 'I support Israel'..."

Reminds me of the similar smug putdown, "Have you ever been to Israel. I have, it's beautiful." I was in an online set-to with an American Jewess who pulled that line on me, I regret I wasn't quick enough on my feet to ask, "And do you know which erased Palestinian village you were standing on?" to shut her up. Next time I'll be prepared.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I also have never been to nazi germany or a slave plantationin the prewar south. I hear they were very gracious and charming.

What's her point?

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X K's avatar

Love it, more ammunition for me to use! Her point? Anybody's guess, but apparently ya really haven't lived 'til you've been.

Now that I think of it, another rejoinder I just thought of - "Nope, haven't been, nor any desire to do so, not on my bucket list, but certainly on my *uck it one."

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gypsy33's avatar

Feral, EAR SCRATCHES for you! 😼

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

You are absolutely right A Parseeker, but the problem is " all that's decent and just and good" no longer seem to exist.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"...Apparently it’s fine to say from the river to the sea Palestine will not be free."

May I add a line to this? "But if Palestine cannot be free--then Israel will cease to be!"

The Google ads smearing the reputation of the Global Sumud Flotilla just wreak of desperation on Israel's part. I think they must really be scared that some country might actually step up and provide a naval escort for the flotilla boats. I know I will cheer loudly that day the protective forces enter Gaza and take out the IOF. You'll probably hear me cheering all the way to Australia!

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Davina's avatar

Count me in for the cheering, too, with a conga line of happy 💃 💃

There should be warships escorting the flotilla, preferably with nuclear warheads ready to fire if Isarhell harms one more aid boat.

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Res Nullius's avatar

Apparently, Egypt and Turkey have suddenly announced large joint naval exercises in the eastern Mediterranean, at exactly the same time as the flotilla is due to arrive in Gaza, so it will be interesting to see how this goes.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Don't kid yourself. The United States has plenty of pressure points over both turkey and egypt

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martin's avatar

tass headline: israel not to let global sumud flotilla sail into gaza, proposes docking in ashkelon

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

“Genocide” is no longer an appropriate descriptor for what is happening to Palestinian people, your home, your land. What is happening, what is almost complete, is a deliberate obliteration, a totality of Evil, a complete erasure of a people, a culture, a place. Our governments are so subservient to the Zionist Entity that they simply look away instead of doing as required under UN law and taking every and all actions necessary to block this evil. The only hope is that soon Iran will do the right thing.

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Elizabeth Phillips's avatar

Though I am sympathetic to the idea, that’s a big ask of Iran. I hope that, especially after Israel’s open, boastful bombing of Doha, that all the Gulf states begin a slow and sure transition to China/BRICs.

After Israel is secure of de facto annexation of Gaza, EJ and the WB (minus the dead or ethnically cleansed Palestinians), Israel is not shy of eyeing off Greater Israel. And that’s Lebanon, Jordan and big bits of SA, Egypt, Iraq etc. It’s in their interests to stop Israel now.

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Actually, a few of Iran's new missiles will do the trick. However, the greatest nuclear war threat now is the Zionist entity preemptively striking Iran with one of their nukes which they don't admit to having. And naturally, they would be backed up by their sponsor.

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Davina's avatar

But they do admit to having nuclear bombs otherwise they could not threaten to use them on every country if there is a serious attack Israel thinks it's likely to be finished.

Or, they don't actually have any and it's all bullshit like so much if what they say. Why have they never allowed ANY inspections? Is it because; either they have none and show themselves up as liars or, they have so many that one hit on the store would totally obliterate Israel for ever - I like that one, so could someone do the world a favour. After that the rest of them can get up off their knees and start being the people they were elected to be.

Because, if we, the world's caretakers, don't put an end to this tyranny we will not survive much longer and what will happen to our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren - I first one would like each of mine and everyone else's to enjoy long, free and happy lives, not scraping for crumbs in a burned out planet, which will affect even those with money to burn because it won't buy them what's not available, not even in a fancy bunker.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Don't nuclear weapons have radioactive fallout that travels and radiation at ground zero that does not dissipate for many years, affecting all living things?

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Davina's avatar

Probably. But I keep seeing a bomb that goes so deep it sets up an earthquake but not detonate the nuclear bombs but bury them instead and Israel is swallowed up by it and a chain reaction is set to follow- either by chance or deliberately.

Iran has weapons that can put out Israel's domestic, I'm sure they can work out another type without it being nuclear itself. Needs must, you know?

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

Iran has always been part of the Israel-palestine problem, never the solution. Iranian rulers have deep resentment toward palestinians. They will be delighted if Israel manages to eradicate palestinians. That's the reality, whether we like it or not.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Irfan, why do you say that? I watch Press TV all the time, and what I see is a strong support for the Palestinians and their cause. In fact, if it weren't for their reporting, I wouldn't have many of the insights that I have on the plight of the Palestinians. What's the your sources?

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

I have been following the events in Palestine since my childhood. Iran has actively undermined and sabotaged every peace initiative taken by PLO. The underlying reason for this issue is that palestinian Muslims are Sunni and Iranian regime is Shia. The hatred between these two sects is worse than their hatred towards non-muslims. It's the bitter truth. The Sunni Muslims in the middle east were supported by Saudi Arabia and USA. Iran has fended off incursions from Iraq and its western allies all by itself for several decades. It has resulted in a deep mistrust and hatred in the Iranian minds against all Sunni majority nations.

If Palestine becomes free, it will be another Sunni majority nation. Iran doesn't want a free Palestine unless it is under the control of one of its proxies (e.g. hamas). Whatever Iran is doing, it is doing only for itself. It doesn't care about palestinians. That's why it accepted truce as soon as offered. Iran has the power to bring down Israel, but it won't do that.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Yes, I seem to remember talk like this in the 1970s -1980s from the Shah's Iran, but not since then. Sounds like last century's news to me.

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Davina's avatar

I think you're watching/listening to the false news, I ran us not threatened by Palestine it it could have eradicated them centuries ago, there's nothing about Palestine that has threatened anyone why else would the zionists have chosen them? Because they are an easy target.

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Davina's avatar

So why were they supplying weapons to Hamas if they wanted Palestinians demise, also to the Houthis who help Palestine.

You mpshould maybe nice your reading material.

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

Hamas is Hezbollah's proxy, Hezbollah is Iran's. I have not seen any evidence of direct weapons transfer from Iran to hamas. If I were to guess why Iran supports hamas, maybe it's an "enemy's enemy is your friend" kind of relationship. One thing is for sure - Iran doesn't want a Palestine that's not under its direct control. Maybe there is more to it that I am not aware of. I can tell you only what I know.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Why is Iran supporting the Houthis, who are supporting the Palestinians? Why has Pakistan supported Iran in this recent situation, including offering military weapons? The Shia, Sunni conflict is real, but some have awakened to the larger threat that will destroy them now. The schism can be put on the back burner, until this present danger is eliminated. After all, it's not gone away in 1600 years, no need to be anxious on that account.

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Just sayn's avatar

Islam does not want war. IRAN does not want war. But if they do not do something they will be obliterated. Zionist Israel is an Existential threat to Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and well America too.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"They will be delighted if Israel manages to eradicate palestinians."

Why do you say that? What will Iran gain by the elimination of Palestinians?

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

In short, it will be one less Sunni majority nation in the region. Iran won't touch Israel even if it erases Palestine off the map. Iran simply doesn't care, it never did.

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Feral Finster's avatar

It's a tiny speck in the number of Sunni out there.

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Feral Finster's avatar

They won't. They like their western bank accounts, their western trophy properties, their western assets, their shiny western toys.

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Bruce Maltby's avatar

Demonised beautiful Iran…

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A Parseeker's avatar

One word to describe the West: Indecent. By ANY rational or human standard. Utterly shamelessly indecent.

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Whatistobedone's avatar

I'd say...EVIL.

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Rod Dawson's avatar

The British Board of Jewish Deputies was vehemently against Britain recognising the right of a Palestinian state to exist. Startlingly, this did nothing to stop Sir Kid 'The Shekels' Starver doing a jelly wobble and changing its mind. Which, perhaps, is the best illustration possible of the emptiness of the gesture. Oh, and that Turmp allowed it should alert the world that it's just another trick to dupe decent people everywhere into believing that the British government isn't a Zionist, racist, genocide-supporting embarrassment, a servant of Israel and not of its people. How shameful. And it is particularly interesting to note that the British Board of Jewish Deputies was so utterly anti even an empty gesture towards ending the genocide. Do we deduce that the British Board of Jewish Deputies must, thus, be pro-genocide? Do they not appreciate that when followers of a religion do, or stand for, despicable things, it does not take long before the religion is despised? How terribly tragic that the representatives of Judaism in Britain could not even pretend to be for peace.

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Patricia Blair's avatar

We are in deep kimchi, shit, folks, no doubt about it. My son asked me today if I can remember a worse time in America? No, but possibly Blacks, Indigenous people, etc. can. It’s been a struggle to have rights for many in-spite of the US Constitution. Keep speaking up. Trump, etc. needs to be removed as well as many changes in Congress.

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Michael's avatar

Gaza is a test run

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Methinks so, too 😥😬😡

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Bruce Maltby's avatar

America has been imploding into its own mess for years. They are also an Israel.

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dale ruff's avatar

"Reaffirmation of Ban: In August 2025, Canada reaffirmed its ban on military exports that could be used in Gaza, rejecting claims that arms still flow to Israel from Canada. UK and Australia have limited sales.

I applaud every step in the right direction and as momentum grows, blaming latecomers will become boring and irrelevant What we need is to praise those who come late for coming.....and joining the movement to totally isolate Israel. If we can neuter Trump in 2026, too late but better than never, Democrats can possibly ban arms to Israel and force them to negotiate a settlement that ends 75 yrs of attacks and allows statehood. Is there any other way? If you have it, present it; and if you don't, lend a hand or get out of the way.

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Jay Tse's avatar

Reaffirmations are pointless. It's all theatre. It's all words. Real actions are needed. Words (like recognizing the state of Palestine) are meaningless.

Watch what they do, not what they say.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

Canada is lying. Some of our independent media have exposed that we are shipping explosives and weapons parts, although some of it goes through the USA so technically we are shipping those things to the USA. Carney is as much a liar as Netanyahu, Trump, and Starmer..

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Nearly all Congressional Democrats will do Nethu's bidding.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

What about massive sit-ins in visible locations, now before the weather turns cold.

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Balazs Dibuz's avatar

I’d like us all to start getting used to the concept of the Palestinian Jew.

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CK's avatar

Jews have existed in Palestine for centuries. They were known as Palestinians who happened to be Jewish instead of Christian or Muslim. They were not Zionists. They were a minority.

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Balazs Dibuz's avatar

Exactly.

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CK's avatar
Sep 22Edited

Keep reminding the ignorant about the propaganda.

Millions of people never heard of that.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

There are a few Jews among the Palestinians, but Israel kills them with the same avidity that it kills Muslim Palestinians and Christian Palestinians.

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

They are referred to as Mizrahi Jews and they are a marginalized community within Israel. The only way they are treated differently is that they are citizens of Israel and they are tried in civil courts if they throw rocks at the IOF tanks.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

Mizrahi Jews are Jews from other countries in the Arab world.

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Irfan A Khan's avatar

Sorry, you are correct. Original Palestinian Jews are probably the smallest minority in their own homeland.

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drednorzt's avatar

New Zealander here. Our incumbent government is so Maga-pilled they STILL haven't recognised Palestine (and no plans to). One of the first to denounce South Africas apartheid, but one of the last to do anything about Israel's.

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Jane's avatar

It’s not about Maga, it’s the fact that Luxon is a protégé of John Key who is a Jew and a Zionist and still has influence.

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drednorzt's avatar

Huh. I did not know that about Don Key. Hmmmm...

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Jane's avatar

Israel was thrilled when Key became PM. Write ups in the Times of Iz, etc. Also recall the 2004 incident (Helen Clark then PM) when 2 Mossad agents were caught trying to fraudulently acquire NZ passports (for use in assassinations) and were imprisoned for 6 months amid diplomatic spat with Israel who were violating NZ sovereignty.

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martin's avatar

ha, israel and south africa. from 1990: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e76wclj4Ri8

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Amine's avatar

The post-WWII world is collapsing : no values, ho rights, no international, no humanity ...

Western powers are always the same, the masks have fallen !

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Oscar Alx's avatar

Albanese, Starmer and Co. who got permission for this pointless act of recognition from the State Department which they the carried out inside a couple of days: "Hamas not to play a role in the future of Palestine." - Who the fuck is worse, Hamas or the Netanyahu gang? (I personally don't harbour any grievances agains liberation organisations!)

There is also the proviso that the actual Palestinian state should be the outcome of negotiations. I suppose thus we have returned to the "Roadmap to peace" of the era when Colin Powell was US foreign minister ("Secretary of State").

Evermore the Western heads of government remind me of Marshal Pétain, the head of the wartime Vichy government of France. Of-course, this leaves Trump in the role of the moustachioed one.

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