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Feb 10Liked by Caitlin Johnstone

Just a moment of praise for this writer. Does anyone write like Johnstone? Anyone at all? I've been reading subversive literature for over 55 years and her voice is as powerful and moving as any. So necessary in this time. It feels like a voice straight out of the darkness, a klaxon call waking us from the narcotic sleep of sociopathic empire. And the tenacity! tapping into some well of prodigious energy and creativity. Month after month immersing herself in the atrocities and brutal savagery of the merciless, destructive juggernaut that is Western imperialism. But what an opportunity. When in history has it been on such incredibly vivid display? You and Tim are holding valuable space for a lot of us out here Caitlin. Grateful, deeply grateful.

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Thank you so much for your kind words. That means a lot to us.

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All we can hope is that our megar comments can inspire each other to do better think better and be better ...you are a life raft Caitlin in this insanity.

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Agree, Chaz. The world has gone batshit crazy and it’s a relief to hear a few voices of reason and empathy.

I feel so goddamned helpless though…

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Many of us with true empathy in the face of this horror feel that way .. even with all my well over 20 years effort of activism i still feel i have not done enough and come against such a big wall but then i hear others show awareness and commentary and maybe we have some influence on making people think and then don't also feel so alone in it ...my positive sentiments pounced on as soon as i make them by sniveling little toads that seem to get irritated at yeah wishy washy statements and YEAH i admit mine could be seen that way as one to an extent even though outside my own norm of how more militant and pragmatic i can be...Its always these people that poison the well.

In my activist days i encountered many of these people come into our circles to grind their own ax on everyone else's skulls ..its what convoluted occupy too .. then these little punks want to step to me like they know shit about anything real.. I've been at this before their mammy stopped wiping their ass.

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"All we can hope is that our megar comments can inspire each other to do better think better and be better ...you are a life raft in this insanity."

How about a solution instead of restating the problem over and over?

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You got one? instead of pissing on my comment?

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"You got one?"

Yes, I have given it here several times. But that begs the question, how does restating the problem over and over solve anything?

" instead of pissing on my comment?"

So, your comment is beyond criticism?

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It helps us to feel stronger in what we believe is happening. it gives us solidarity it reinforces our drive to change things, it aids us in seeing root causes and coming up with ideas about how to make an impact in our lives! Your impatient beligerance only drains the life out of people who could make a difference???

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Funny you imagine pissing on stuff is constructive criticism.

Instead of being the typical middle American style douchbag and rudely putting it down (not critisism) make the point about your own magical lofty solutions in the face of the current power and control matrix we are in because we have all been wracking out brains to find one THAT ACTUALY FUCKING WORKS!

I have been at this for 20 fucking years...risking my life and feedom for it in actual physical actions. What the fuck have you done?

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Here is another thing Mr "reslist" smart ass. My comment was in reference to catlins writing that help inspire and encourage each other. It's addressing one aspect of the struggle. I have plenty of solutions you fucking numpties have been ignoring for years..

I talk about a tax revolt and you fuckets piss all over that too cause your such fucking cowards to not want to risk yourselves for that too. You talk shit just like everyone else ...what have you done phisicaly beside flap your fucking gums..because I have.... Chew on that fucking solution

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Have you faced down riot cops at protests? I have.

Have you been instrumental in stopping the zim shiping boats with weapons to and from israel? I have.

Have you organized protest, gone to those meetings to plan them? I have. Helped create iconic art that was spread across news agencies? I have.

Have you defended old Jewish ladys being spit on by Zionist at those protest and getting into fights over it? I have.

So tell me what Have you done? What solutions do you have that are even "realist"?

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Here is another thing Mr "reslist" smart ass. My comment was in reference to catlins writing that help inspire and encourage each other. It's addressing one aspect of the struggle. I have plenty of solutions you fucking numpties have been ignoring for years..

I talk about a tax revolt and you fuckets piss all over that too cause your such fucking cowards to not want to risk yourselves for that too. You talk shit just like everyone else ...what have you done phisicaly beside flap your fucking gums..because I have..

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Caitlin, you write with such fury and ferocity that I can imagine your keyboard bursting into flames as you type! Keep it up and never tone it down!

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We’ve never had a voice like Johnstone’s, never. Her emergence in this time, of all times, is miracle enough to give me hope. Hers is the clarion, ours is the fight:

Boycott, Divest, Strike

“Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed.”

Étienne de La Boétie

The Politics of Obedience

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Read Orwell's "Politics And The English Language" (available for free on the internet).

I do not know whether La Johnstone has read this or not, but one way or another she has taken Orwell's lessons to heart.

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Thanks Feral Finster! That is a good read indeed.

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The Finster aims to please.

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Yes. This voice is so NEEDED; I'm pleased to see she is getting more airplay.

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Hear, hear!

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“Most aid-dependent population on earth.”

I’m reminded of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s comment on Palestine, “Most pampered people in the world.”

A population is caged, but you’re lucky we feed and water you.

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RFK Jr has turned out to be a POS, and thats the kindest way I can describe him.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Sad to see the legacy of Bobby Kennedy devolve to this. But yes, how any person can now turn a blind eye to this ongoing genocide - is unforgivable - and should never be forgotten (or forgiven). Genocide is an absolute moral red line.

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Genocide: #TheCrimeOfCrimes

#CeasefireNow

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Never Forget.

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Israel has been not only murderous but foolish. How many world wide now condemn Israel. Those of us who understand the toxic relationship between US and Israel will never forgive or forget the atrocities we have witnessed. Israel has condemned itself for the foreseeable future. Well done.

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{...Israel has condemned itself for the foreseeable future...}

Zionists don't care about a foreseeable future because Gentiles have short memories, the MSM and Wikipedia is theirs. History is rewritten 24/7.

Zionists and their financial-political back-ups have long-term goals that span generations; too complex for average busy-body Gentiles to grasp ...😌😌

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Disagree.

IsraHell is a goner, and good fucking riddance.

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While that would be a fair, good and just thing, I see little to no chance of a happening.

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More a HOLOCAUST tho' obviously "genocide" also fits. A worse Holocaust than the German one in longevity, pure evil, so carefully and extensively planned, TOTAL PURE LIES by so many since the Nakba, 1946 about, AND the MAJOR PHOOKIN' HYPOCRISY of all time - consider, after what was done to Jews during WWII, HOW THE DUCK could these same "people" - zionists plan and carry out a MUCH MUCH WORSE HOLOCAUST????

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He was always a piece of shit.

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Dave Smith demolishes RFK:

https://youtu.be/a21TAA9Hak0?si=EhkFjw8hP6OJNitV

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Thanks for the link. I never knew he was so obnoxious, and rationalizes every position he holds. He sounds so much like a politician it surprised me since he so often portrays himself in another light.

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Yes thanks. I would not like to meet RFK on a dark night.

Fascinating to watch.

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I’d like to , Jenny.

He’s an incoherent fool and I could take him on 😉

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NO Gypsy please no. There is a look in his eye and he can't keep still ...think he is on something.

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😂

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

JS: I would not like to meet RFK on a dark night.

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Even if you had an object that rhymes with 'fun'?

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Thank you for the link.

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To my mind he always was.

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If RFK Jr's comment is as Catherine reports, above, a POS isn't strong enough.

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I heard him say it on a pod.

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Any chance of locating that, Dr Who?

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He said it on Breaking Points on 12/15/23. Kim covers it here:

https://youtu.be/iFXEmBjeoXg?si=7n-mOUlB4v8-5rxB

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Jaysus H Phookin' kerist, RFK jr's first response was a total dodge, a lie, a canard, a huge smoke screen, ... .

Why would ANYONE want to get rid of those who are the SOLE PROTECTORS of the Palestinian people? [Maybe some other MEterners.

Why doesn't he say "How would you get rid of the usa and israhell and the zionists and anyone else that has been supporting the zionists' CENTURY LONG HOLOCAUST against the Pals?!!!

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Thank ya berry berry much, Dr W!

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He had us fooled for a while when he babbled on about the jabs, but how he fell... his family would be turning in their grave if they knew what he was.

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he is a worthy descendant of the family of warmongers and fascist supporters.

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How long have you known him personally?

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I've never known Joe Biden personally but I can definitely say what he is. As well as many other public figures.

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Why do you seem to have so much trouble expressing what you want to say, usa bot? You have read that these sookum suckers are all Class A war criminals, worse than the Nazis, so let 'er rip, stop being so nebulous and get rid of your goofy moniker.

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So you are the returning messiah?

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Is this supposed to be sharp? Maybe you should re-read what I wrote.

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Re-read your nebulous, inane, vacuous, ... posts. How is that gonna help Vonu or anyone.

WRITE CLEARLY and provide EVIDENCE.

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Since Substack can't return to the thread, I can't read it.

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RB thinks he's a Messiah, but these delusions are all self created. Its a product of a malignant narcisist.

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Who is RB?

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Tells everything one needs about RFK Jr the candidate for president.

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Your comments tell nothing to everybody, usa bot. Try to write something beside vacuous.

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HA! (#HasbaraAlert)

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I really wish folks who comment here made their posts/comments 100% clear as to who they are replying to and what their point is.

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Examine today's performance by ChazLB and incorporate elements into your trolling technique. As he conducts his masterclass sincerely you can learn a few tricks to make your strained brainfarts more believable. As well as prevent premature strokes.

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Feb 11·edited Feb 11

AGAIN, a nebulous, inane, vacuous, usa bot nebulous, inane, vacuous reply.

Why can't you be honest and address things in YOUR OWN WORDS with YOUR OWN IDEAS? You do not even say what Chaz has said that you think is of interest, importance, ... . I am not saying Chaz comments are in any way bad. I am ONLY pointing out your NOTHINGNESS comments.

An OBVIOUS usa bot.

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You seem to be emulating Biden in his confusing of people, with calling russian_bot, usa bot.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 11

Ummmmm, Vonu, I guess you missed it, big time. I can't emulate biden because I am not a war criminal, "butcherer of women and children", like Uncle Tom Obama, and biden was both the above while he was still just a usa war criminal VP.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

I wonder if RFK also thinks indigenous people were lucky to have been colonized by European settlers who decided that killing children, just as Netanyahu is doing, was the best way to get rid of the people whose land they stole: they ordered children to go to residential schools, in an attempt to destroy indigenous culture, and then they killed many of those children. That has also been officially called a genocide. History repeats itself in so many ways.

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Follow the Benjamin$ dark money funding rfk campaign is the answer to his crazed fanboy of Zionism

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They don't need Benjamin$, they have SWIFT.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

In politics never trust a Kennedy. Never.

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I would say, don't trust the CIA, ever.

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Do you suggest folks trust all the usa Class A war criminal prezes, which is all of them?

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The thing is, to get close to that level of power you have to be a certified sociopath. Robert Kennedy Jr entering the race is like adding Pol Pot to a race between Hitler and Stalin. Whoever wins, the world can shake its head and ask how Americans could be depraved enough to elect such a monster. Yes--in theory we COULD elect Jill Stein or Cornel West. But the power of the system, especially the media wing, is such that they will be included in no debates, likely won't be on the ballot in many states, half the voters won't know they're running or what they stand for, and everyone will understand that they "can't win" and voting for them is "throwing your vote away." Those leaning Democrat are already being subjected to regular screeds about how Trump will go full fascist if elected and the country will fall apart; those leaning Republican are being told, I guess, that a communist menace that will force our children to change genders and have sex with persons of other races in junior high will be instituted, or that a huge invasion of bloodthirsty, bronze-skinned people is massed at our southern border.

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IF voting could change anything to the status quo, it would immediately be made illegal !!

The elites don't need to care on which line the folks applies its cross because its THEM that have pre-choosen all their reliable servants on the voting-slip.

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Just another cycle in good ol’ fashioned American Democracy.

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MW: like adding Pol Pot to a race between Hitler and Stalin. Whoever wins, the world can shake its head and ask how Americans could be depraved enough to elect such a monster.

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Weeeelllllll, since Americans have "elected" war criminals, genocidists, slavers, rapists, "butcherers of women and children", "men" who have skinned innocents they have slaughtered and done every other evil/depravity known to these types of "humans", PolPot, Stalin, Hitler are pikers.

And let's do remember that the usa demonizes folks with the usual usa serial lies, SOLELY to distract from the FACT, TOTAL REALITY, that they usa is always far worse than the people they demonize.

PolPot was TOTALLY supported by the usa. The usa was THEE SOLE CAUSE of the massive Cambodian Holocaust. Both Hitler & Stalin have been slandered by the always usa lying rank propaganda.

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Wait, are you fucking saying that Hitler was slandered?!

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Quite the opposite.

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Which usa war criminal prez, vice prez, demorat/repug senator, congress critter, usa media, ... do you trust?

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I don't: I'm voting 3rd party. Just not RFK Jr.

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Do you happen to have a citation for that quotation?

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Caitlin, your analysis is absolutely, tragically, spot-on! Extremely well-articulated.

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Rafah is a border town where over 1.5+ million Palestinians are being huddled in Concentration Camp style conditions. The Zionists wish to Bombard them so that they rush to the Sinai & break the border fence with Egypt when doing so. This will mean tens of thousands dead & hundreds of thousands Maimed for life within the opening hours & days. Such a maneuver would compel Men of the Resistance to increase the Tempo of Operations & Go for the Kill. 'Israel' will get their Genocide in this scenario, but it will be short lived as said Vile Savages find that Nemesis & Vengeance (in the form of hundreds of thousands of SRBMs & Drones) would end the Zionist entity once & for all.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

I know this isn't the most popular thing to say right now, but I believe either Egypt, or some other nation in the world should step up and save these trapped Palestinians - most of them unarmed civilians, many - children who are innocent.

Is the world just going to standby and watch Israel massacre a million people with the aid of the US?

First save this population, and then deal with Israel afterward. Is it morally acceptable to let all these people die based on some human criteria that they either don't deserve aid, or aid is not possible? Surely aid is possible. Surely these people can be evacuated and helped. So what if it appears to be a win for Israel? At least all these human lives will have been saved. Doesn't the Arab world care about innocent children?

Save them first and deal with Israel afterward. Fuck Israel.

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Good lord. The cruelty and torture is our and Israel's responsibility. We're doing the evil. We righteous always innocent never naughty, wrong, dishonest or sadistic Americans are culpable. Perhaps if you and I and everyone decided to stay home and not buy and not work until our government saw the light and stopped fueling Israel things would be very different. It's your and my tax money pouring into the bombs bursting in air then falling murdering Palestinians and funding tough Israeli he-men soldiers sickking dogs on 4 year old Palestinian children. How obscene is that ? This is our problem - yours and mine.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

True - but that doesn't get leaders of our country (or other countries) off the hook.

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I saw someone on Reddit suggest refusing to pay taxes entirely.

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How about we start with the obscene wealth inequality of the top 1% - instead of always harping about taxes? Perhaps if these mother fuckers actually paid their fair share of taxes - it wouldn't be an issue would it?

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Recently I read an article by a man with Palestinian ancestry and US citizenship. He was stopped by an Egyptian policeman for a traffic violation. He showed his passport but declared himself a Palestinian. The policeman beat him up. The man kept declaring himself Palestinian so the policeman continued to beat him.

Egypt is not a rich county. Two million destitute refugees would be a major drag on their livelihoods. They have made it clear they won't go along.

The tactics of the Israeli forces are abominable.

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There are other wealthy countries in the world. There could be a temporary camp set up and some kind of organized evacuation.

It is immoral to just look on and watch a million people get exterminated. There is no moral excuse for it. The world isn't so destitute that it can't do anything about it. Including Egypt.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Yes, likely more Palestinians would survive if Israel is allowed to complete its ethnic cleansing--the ones in the West Bank too, right?--Let's let Israel dump all native Palestinians onto other countries, so more of them survive, to live for generations in miserable tent city/refugee camps in the desert, until climate change kills them. But Israel is operating out of the Nazi playbook--calling the Palestinians "untermenschen" (no, they don't use the German word--they say "savage animals" and "vermin") and themselves the Master Race ("God gave this land to us 3000 years ago") who need more lebensraum--Gaza is already a concentration camp, now they're going for a Final Solution, with SUPPORT from the US government and its allies, when we're legally obligated to intervene. So. Will Israel, if it gets away with this, follow the Nazi playbook some more--declaring that Syria, Jordan or Lebanon is rightfully part of Israel? If they do they'll get support from the US.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

What a bunch of gobbledygook reasoning to allow this massacre to continue, and do nothing about it. There is nothing wrong with the logic of saving these trapped unarmed civilians, including children right now, and dealing with Israel afterward. It is the humanitarian action to take in this crisis.

To just let them die like cattle in a slaughterhouse is morally obscene. Human lives are worth more than a piece of fucking land.

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noone, including you most probably, will be interested in dealing with Israel crimes and breaches of the intl law as to achieve justice and normal living conditions for Palestinians, once there is no massive carnage. Gazans will be evacuated somewhere and left there forgotten, some other issue will win intl attention. They will not get right to return, they will get nothing at all. Their fucking suffering is the only way to make you care for their case!

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PP: The tactics of the Israeli forces are abominable.

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Way worse than "abominable", Patrick.

'you'.

:-)

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There are three scenarios:

1) Egyptian Dictator goes to War with 'Israel' courtesy of the Ethnic Cleansing into Sinai.

2) Egyptian Dictator does nothing... in which case he is taken out via a coup & his general & others organically begin hostilities with the Zionist entity.

3) They both do nothing. In which case, the Sinai is flooded by refugees & Egypt implodes. This scenario would mean 'Israel' would de facto have a new War front to the South.

There is no Escape. Deterministically, all roads lead to 'Israel' being destroyed.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

At this point, emotionally, I have no problem with Israel being "destroyed".

But I would like some other nation - other than just the Houthis, step up and really do something about it - rather than just talk about how terrible it is all these unarmed civilians are being massacred. At least find a way to evacuate them the hell out of there.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

It would have to be cleared with "Israehell-on-Earth"; otherwise, I think that's what one of the reasons for the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was, to put the fear of god into us that "Israehell" could do it again, or worse (not that, other than nuclear war, could it be much worse than what they are doing all through the main enclaves of Palestine right now, where THEY are being the animals here, or the ones acting animalistic, or obviously the most so).

Again, I'm NOT excusing Hamas' human rights violations, but the Palestinians have every right to defend themselves, and they are severely limited in what they can do; because, obviously, "Israehell" has far more firepower than they do. The former clearly isn't defending themselves, but illegally using the October 7th attack as an "excuse" to, beyond aggressively ("the supreme international crime", wars of aggression, according to the Nuremberg Protocols/Charter), wipe out the vast majority of two million Gazans, not to mention the many others in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, etc. And I think it's also the entire Empire's warning to the entire world, "You resist, dissent or defend yourselves against us, and we will wipe you out", without mercy. So, sincerely bow to God, and ONLY to God, before it is very soon too late.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

I'm at the point now (at least emotionally) where I don't care what happens other than the world stops this murderous rampage one way or another.

Personally, living in a world where this is allowed to happen - while so-called "civilized nations" sit by and do nothing but talk about it (a genocide of an entire people) - is not a world I really think deserves to exist, or one I would like to live in.

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Feb 11·edited Feb 11

Whatever you or others who are so dispirited do as a result of the present state of affairs, don't commit suicide, for doing so would seal the doom of your soul because suicide can't be repented of. Believe me, I get quite dispirited myself by what's presently going on, and if I was the least bit suicidal, which I'm not, I would have committed suicide a long time ago. But through my in-depth study of God's Word(s) for forty-five years, and my knowledge of His Will, I know that suicide is completely against His will because it is self-murder in violation of the Sixth Commandment, "You will not kill (including killing yourselves)" [Exodus 20:13]. So, no matter how painful things are, and/or how painful they get, hang in there no matter what. Turn to God, and with His help, you can do anything that is His Will. Don't destroy your soul for all eternity.

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Any Arab leader that dares raise a finger to Israel will find himself immediately at war with the United States and its european buttbois.

And Arab leaders like their dollars and their shiny western toys.

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Except not. America no longer has sufficient sealift, airlift, munitions, etc to prosecute something like 1991 or even 2003; however the 'mythology' of American military power still remains in the minds of these Arab Puppets.

That said, it might be the case that soon, they will be more scared of their own people than be scared of an American power that was lost long ago.

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Even if what you said concerning American logistics were true (it isn't), if Arab leaders are too frightened to take action, then the bluff worked.

And that leaves out western sanctions, which are still very much viable, and it's not like Arab leaders don't like their Gulfstream jets and cognac.

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I have gone through Andrei Martyanov's trilogy where he decisively shows that the American military of today is basically a lamborghini without wheels (i.e. expensive, but incompetent), so I am quite confident on that point.

That said, you are probably correct that *for now* the bluff has worked.

As for Western sanctions, their bite is far weaker today (courtesy of Egypt & others being in the BRICS+) than in the past.

Addendum: Here's a quick primer of why I have the views I do regarding the complete incompetence of the American 'war machine:'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/shrinking-cost-war-threatens-western-militaries-208177

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Yes.

I think Egypt will probably HAVE to go to war.

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For real. The sane countries must step in.

And fuck our own plutocracy.

Biden’s willy woke up 🤑 at the sounds of bombs and the campaign coffers getting filled with donors’ buying favors. He’s so fucking insulated he just woke up to the fact that his ratings have tanked and someone told him why. Seriously.

At first he thought if he just put on old mister sad face and spoke in a hushed gentle tone that people would seriously forgive him. In fact, tonight I saw a couple of YouTube commercials that even the 5secs before you skip are just that tactic. It’s both maddening and sickening.

I think of all the times I’ve voted for Dems when their candidates were sanctimonious centrists but I held my nose and voted for them anyway. Fuck them, too. Where’s the revolution…?

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A real solution would be for the UN to send in troops.

The only thing that can stop the genocidal maniacs in Israel is military force. If the UN won't do it, then the surrounding regional countries must intervene militarily.

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But this is impossible, as I just now realize that the intervention of UN peacekeepers requires authorization by the Security Council, a move that would obviously be vetoed by the US:

https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/military#:~:text=The%20UN%20can%20only%20deploy,identify%20personnel%20and%20deploy%20them.

So, it looks like war to me.

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From my recollection of past UN peacekeeping interventions, they have all been abject failures. Indeed rape and child trafficking by the UN troops became a major and malignant problem. The UN is just as evil as the politicians are venal and corrupted.

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Hi Jamenta

While I appreciate your sentiment, it’s been said that the Palestinians would rather die on their feet than live on their knees.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Hi gypsy

While I appreciate your sentiment, I believe children should get the chance themselves to grow up and decide for themselves whether they ought to be sacrificially blown to bits for some idealistic bravery their parents may harbour.

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Hi Jamenta

While there is nothing on this earth I’d rather see than no more Palestinian deaths ( I would gladly give my life in exchange for that of one Palestinian child), there’s no doubt in my mind that they would be banished to refugee camps in some remote corner of the world and forgotten.

There are two legitimate solutions: (a) the Amerikkkan regime somehow comes to its senses and cuts IsraHell off, or (b) can I say this here? Someone puts respective bullets in the heads of Satanyahu, Ben Gvir, and Smotrich. If this comment is not acceptable here Caitlin, I apologize and will retract it.

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they are getting blown to bits, or dying in the desert in any case. you think those people now crowded in a small corner of Gaza have a choice?

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I think evacuating is worth a try - and don't see it as some impossible alternative.

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i see it as an impossible alternative. i am much more encouraged by the Houthi approach, which is working.

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Perhaps they should have a choice, so that those who want to live on their knees, can do so, while those who want to die standing, can proceed according to their will.

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Please see my above comment to Jamenta.

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Isn't that just part of the zi0paths plan

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Yes it is. But is that a valid reason to let them all die?

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No of course not..

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I mean, what do you try to do in a hostage situation? You try to free the hostages if possible, then deal with the hostage taker. This doesn't seem much different here.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

"This doesn't seem much different here." - only it is.

The hostage taker will not be dealt with. Rather it'll be dealt the results of the "facts on the ground". That is, Israel will get all of Gaza and the Gazans will lose their home forever.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

{...At least all these human lives will have been saved...} Thank you for your compassionate post.

Unfortunately, the globe deals with a kin that has entirely different metrics when it comes to people that do not belong to their faith & political credo:

ONLY them are humans, the shabby rest (just 99.8%, no big deal) of people are considered subhuman at best, only born to serve "The Chosen Ones".

To them, Palestinians crammed together in South of Gaza are NOTHING more than cockroaches you may find in the subfloor after a long vacation and to be exterminated ASAP by ANY means. Just follow the news during this month ...

Currently its the Palestinians, tomorrow it will be anyone who has been silent in face of these atrocities.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

This genocide is unprecedented even by warfare standards. The rate of children being massacred is about 3 times greater than the last few centuries of war and mass murder.

Although you are correct many Israelis believe they are "The Chosen Ones" - the United States is enabling the genocide with its billions of dollars, and military supplies, along with Vetoes at the U.N. - which are not based on any kind of religious rationality. Apparently, being subhuman can also mean: someone who is not obscenely rich, and gets in the way of the empire hegemony goals of the US MIC and deep state - which has nothing really to do with "religion".

Yes, today the Palestinians (and half a million Ukrainians) - tomorrow who's next? If the so-called rules based order cannot even stop a well televised genocide, on what basis does it have any kind of moral authority - other than the Nazi, morally bankrupt ethos of might makes right?

If human life no longer has value unless you are wealthy or in power, what is the value of human life in general? Or the value of you or my children? Of what value is the majority of human lives on the planet if they become mere cannon fodder for the obscenely wealthy or the Zelenskyy's of the world? Without humanitarian rules - we might as well start living like savages again. Which apparently is the case when it comes to these Israeli genocidal savages.

Even the obscenely wealthy will no longer be safe in a world governed by savagery. It is a road to ruin for the entire human race.

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{...which are not based on any kind of religious rationality...} BINGO !!

Zionisn is a political power structure with religion as a smoke-screen only; it serves the UK and the US specifically.

Their religion is MONEY, power and profits, NOW !! NO afterlife.

What we currently witness on the screens in the Levant is text-book Nazism; same attitude, just other players.

{...what is the value of human life in general?...} For them, other people's life has NO value at all, rich or poor.

{...we might as well start living like savages again...} This is what the so-called advanced mass-societies since decades are practising, thanks to C*v1d getting more obvious on a dayly basis.

{...Even the obscenely wealthy will no longer be safe in a world governed by savagery...} Musk will open the doors to space for them, they will stay there until the plebes has extinguished itself. Then they can safely return and fully enjoy the benefits of AGI.

Maybe ...

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At the rate we're going - I doubt we'll even get to "space". Including Musk.

Which is a real tragedy - since there really is an almost endless amount of resources and even land waiting for us "out there". If we weren't spending all our time murdering each other here on Earth.

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The only hot crucible on this planet is in the Levant. Cui bono ?? (besides the MIC)

Imho, humanity should first try to

- understand that we are ONE,

- diminish thoughts about personal monetary profits on the sole expense of others,

- defund current governments,

- boycott evil global corporations,

- sanction anything opposing a sustainable, equitable future,

- DE-centralize into living/production units not larger than the Dunbar's-# (google...),

- harness resources available here,

- quickly stop wasting its energy in fighting The Old but

- build an alternative way, making The Old obsolete w/o need to figth or revolt.

Main hindrance: The Old is soooo convenient and it takes a hell of an effort to leave one's comfy-zone.

Only wide-spread famine or Klausi's bug-burgers will entice a larger portion of the populace to start moving.

Have a nice time !!!

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https://thefallofthewest.substack.com

Thank You Kindly to everyone!

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I am interested in what Egypt's response will be?

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Egypt doesn't want them for several reasons: gazan refugees could turn into threat to internal and external security of Egypt. They could join muslim brotherhood party and they could be labaled as hamas in egypt, which would turn egypt itself in 'a legitimate target' of israeli military aggr defence. Imo, Egypt should not be blamed for atrocities perpetuated against palestinian people by israel and israel's allies, althought it might be tempting to do so.

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And if it be based on "saving Palestinian lives" then it's debatable on at least two simultaneous points:

- what kind of lives it will be and how many will be lost anyway due to the conditions

- what will happen in Egypt and whether an internal turmoil created will result in even more lives lost: Palestinian and Egyptian

All the while Israel clearing up Gaza while selling beachfront condo plans

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Egypt has had an authoritarian dictatorship since 1914 Backed up (I think by the US)

How long should the ruler of ANY country stay in charge?

Emu. What you have said is almost true.

IF you look at this from another way: Egypt has imprisoned the previous leader (nothing to do with Palestinians).

The Suez canal (which I went through on our way to Colombo. Sri Lanka)) is a major waterway for shipping. IF the Suez Canal is annihilated because the Egyptians take in Palestinians. The whole country will be decimated by the western powers and Egypt will become one more Country controlled by Western hegemony. (probably is already).

Egypt is in a precarious position. OIL

I believe that Israel will bomb the shit out of them and there will be nothing we can do.

The 'internal threat' to Egypt has nothing to do with the Muslim brotherhood (a term used by MSM).

Keep your eyes on the USA.

Until the Democrats (Biden) spend some time looking at History we will be in WW3

I want you to think of something very pertinent. The US is busy wiping out History in every country in the World.

Egypt has the Pyramids do you want these to be wiped out too?

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I assumed when you asked what would Egypt do/about letting in refugees/ you referred to the government of Egypt/Mexico.

As for the pyramids, what the hell do you mean if I want these to be wiped out TOO? what the fuck do you imply???

besides, the pyramids are not sentient beings, so if that could somehow stop the genocide or make the world right, then ok, sure, take them out, bomb them, level the things flat, now! But it won't, trust me, it won't, so there is no reason to ponder over the problem of the egyptian pyramids.

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Stop telling yourselves that the good guys are winning, because they deserve to win.

The good guys win only if they have the power to win, and in some ways, the good guys are at an inherent disadvantage in this regard.

And yes, the rest of the world turns a blind eye, cowed by Israel’s American thug.

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Basically, Israel is saying "fuck you. We are doing this because we can, and as long as our American thug stands by us, there's not a thing you can do about it!"

Ian Welsh's writings on torture come prominently to mind.

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There is no pretense left to hide behind. The world can see the truth - the Jews, not just "Zionists" - but the entire Talmudic based culture- are ethno- supremacist- racist hateful Satanic child murdering monsters. And the US is the stepnfetchit Goyim owned and controlled by the same Jewish criminal cabal. They literally believe they have the god given right to murder all Palestinians- women, children, literally no distinction whatsoever between soldier and civilian. We are going to need to face the fact they are, in fact- not hyperbole -but actually based in fact - a self described race of people who are PROUDLY incapable of cohabitating in ANY type of civil society. Nothing has changed, it's just more out in the open thanks to this latest genocidal rampage. They will NOT stop of their own accord. They will only stop when we FORCE them to HEEL. There is a reason they have been thrown out of over 100 countries in the last thousand years. We need to FIND the fortitude WITHIN OURSELVES to stop them, or they will surely murder starve and displace the entirety of Palestine. And that is only the start for these monsters. Read their Talmud, read their bible- they believe their messiah will come to them as a reward after they have murdered and enslaved ALL OF US.

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We should not be anti-Semitic and try and justify what the Nazis did

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Gregor. A lot of us are not anti Israwl but we are anti-Zionist.

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But the guy I replied to said that all Jews are “ethno- supremacist- racist hateful Satanic child murdering monsters”. That’s definitely anti-Semitic.

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There is indeed something not right. Constant supremacy claims based on ancient texts they wrote themselves continues the dangerous but essentially pathetic delusion. The word 'racism' springs easily from the lips of the Chosen Ones™, 'anti-Semitic' being one such example. I am moved therefore to consider if there is a higher proportion of Neanderthal DNA to be found in the Jewish genome relative to the rest of us who they describe as the 'goyim' or 'cattle people'. If so, maybe it's about time the historic Neanderthal/Homo sapiens conflict was examined and resolved peacefully somehow.

I can think of no other reason why there is such a long lived deep schism between our peoples.

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What nonsense. Mark Twain said, "There are two kinds of people in the world--those who divide people into two groups and those who do not." I'm with him. You've decided to divide humanity into Jew/non-Jew (among all the zillion possible schisms) and then invent the notion that Jews are Neanderthals--actually I understand Neanderthal genes are mainly in Europeans. But then, the Ashkenazi Jews who dominate Israel are mostly European.

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it's just so much easier. simple solutions for simple minds.

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yeah, right, because it's been always and exclusively jews 'killing babies'

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We have seen the return of the German Nazi ethos: "Might Makes Right". An immoral, evil ethos for any society to live by. The ethos of abuse and torture, and the degradation of what it means to be a decent human being. This ethos devalues all our humanity, and turns life into a worthless, soulless endeavor.

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I send your posts out to people who say they will vote for Biden cause ya know, Trump....no one responds. Do they even bother to READ? Doubt it at this point.

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No amount of 'voting' will change this misery. As President Putin very rightly and in his usual diplomatic manner said during his interview with Tucker Carlson, paraphrased: "The US President is not in charge, the CIA is." And the CIA is a terrorist organization, same as the IDF. These guys understand one language only, and it is NOT diplomacy or cooperation. Wish it was otherwise.

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Nazi Israel, Nazi American….

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"Nazi" can't give the full intent of pure evil. Better zionist israhell and american american, because the Nazis were choir girls compared to the usa's long sordid, war criminal, genocidal history.

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If we beat the Nazis at this game, it's because we have more devastating weapons at our disposal.

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The usa "beats" the Nazis at pure evil because the usa always lies about others knowing it has to INVENT evil so folks do not glom onto/grasp the REALITY that the usa is NOW and has ALWAYS been pure evil from the Founding Liars, earlier actually, the "christian" Puritans who were not remotely "christian" or pure, save for pure evil.

There are so so many lies about just the Nazis that the usa and its scummy "partners" invented to AGAIN, cover up, paste over their own pure evil.

The uk has illegally invaded about 94% of the world's nations. JUST think how much OTHER PEOPLE'S WEALTH the uk has stolen, how many people they have butchered.

The usa is the uk devil incarnate. The usa started WWII solely to ensure that the usa would become the top dog war criminal nation AND HASN'T THE usa proved that in spades since WWII.

Every usa prez since WWII is a CLASS A WAR CRIMINAL, far worse than the Nazis or anyone else EVER. These truman to biden soo kum are CLASS A WAR CRIMINALS by usa/Nuremberg "standards".

If Nuremberg were taken ex post facto back to warshington, EVERY usa prez would be a Class A war criminal, a Holocauster of epic proportions.

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Don't say "we". That implies that the people of the US are onboard, and we're not--though the massive propaganda operation (primarily through "mainstream media") ensures that half of us are confused. If there is ever to be real resistance, a rebuilding of the peace movement in the US, we need to start by getting clear that the US war machine is not in our interests, not supported by Americans, but is imposed on us--among other things, we can't have healthcare because so much money must go to feed the MIC vampires constantly battening on blood, as well as the healthcare & insurance vampires battening on our blood as we have to pay huge fees to be allowed access to healthcare> And we can't lead on climate response because the military has the world's biggest carbon footprint which can't be questioned, it's imperial adventures foreclose the possibility of global cooperation and it wastes such tremendous resources--financial, human, materiel, and time.

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I appreciate what you are saying but there's plenty of "we" in this country to go around. If "we" "need" the vampiric healthcare system, for example, it's because we eat the garbage they pedal just like we think and believe the garbage they pedal so we are then desperate for someone to fix us. It's not someone else doing anything TO us-we are the enemy. I've read that there are more Christian Zionists in the US than there are Jews in the whole world.

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Absolutely

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Likely they created filters to trash your messages right away.

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Ain't that your schtick?

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Has Jeano "The Madame" set up a date for your mad toy poodle pack's next circle jerk? Send me a link to the thread when you meet. I've enjoyed the previous one tremendously.

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Always with the creepy inuendows with you lonely boys.

Go chase a nun.

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It wasn't me who was "handing it" to each other during that rendezvous.

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Yeah not surprised you would backpeddle like Z-biden on a two wheeler

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Zionists have become what they profess to hate the most. Truly Vile

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Meanwhile on entertainment sites such as Reality Blurb, there is an ad saying no one should ever donate to Gaza because of Hamas. How fucking stupid do they think we are? I reported the ad.

Nothing more disgusting to end an absolute shit day.

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"Empire managers are now openly admitting they suspended aid to Gaza without having seen evidence of the claims that call was based on; they cut the aid because they were told to, then waited for narratives to be provided to them as to why this was a good and righteous decision."

This and other Nazi Israel related current events give an opportunity for people to look back and re-evaluate how similar accusations were cooked up and immediately acted upon against Russia. To name a few: poisonings of Litvinenko and Skripals in the UK, downing of the passenger plane over Donbass. No real investigation was done in the two former, and the latter was a joke. In both Russian participation and/or evidence was dismissed. Yet, the sanctions were imposed right away, and only kept growing from then on.

"They think we’re idiots." - yes. And they are right!

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And don't forget the US establishment through their media outlets blamed russia for destroying the nordstream pipeline.

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It didn't work so well, but by that point everything was already underway: sanctions in full swing with no further justification needed.

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The "no evidence" argument is a trap. Don't fall into it. It buys the false premise that's it's OK to withhold humanitarian aid based on what some members of UNRWA may have done.

Even if there WERE evidence of all 12 accused participating in the Oct. 7 rebellion, it does not justify cut off of critically important aid to. population undergoing a siege, ethnic cleansing, and genocidal military assault.

That argument also ignores the fact that Israel has long sought to destroy and eliminate UNRWA because they serve Palestinians and call out Israel war crimes.

And if there IS evidence and Israel produces it, it is a credibility boost for Israel and those governments that cut off aid and it undermines critics and diverts from the real issues.

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We don't actually want to kill 2 million people. We would much prefer that they 'voluntarily' went through the gates and into Egypt where the Egyptians will prefer to feed them. Or not. We are not doing this because America fully supports our actions or because we are god's chosen people. No we are doing it because we have. god-given right to be psychopaths .Well, there may be some small differences between Zionist and Psychopath but we prefer to act like psychopaths and call ourselves Zionists

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I am an anti-apartheid activist, an anti-war activist. Also, I am afraid for my grandchildren and their wellbeing. I am disgusted with where our taxes goi to fight wars that we have no say whatsoever about. It's the corporate takeover of our country, specifically corporations such as fossil fuel companies (Shell, Chevron, etc.) and the military industrial complex making bombs, F-16's,etc.

Why do our reps and senators vote for this horrible bullshit? And why do we allow AIPAC to bribe our lawmakers? An ongoing genocide - no food, no water, no electricity, nothing but digging in the rubble for clean water.

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What you describe, Jean, has been the usa since forever. These usa wars of aggression are not anything new, this is the usa since the Founding Liars/Founding Genocidists.

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Terry - I have no problem with what you're saying, just speaking from a personal POV and what is happening in the moment.

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"So to summarize, the IDF has been packing the population of Gaza into the southernmost part of the enclave like toothpaste toward the end of a tube, and now they’re going to attack that southernmost part, but it’s totally not genocide and you’re an evil Nazi if you say it is."

In this genocide the people of Gaza must be regarded as fighters and soldiers, de facto. Yes, they are civilian men and women, old people, children, and the ones who are fetuses (abortionists - you can discount those). They don't have weapons. They cannot protect themselves. But their sufferings and deaths are not in vain. The wrath is here, it's building up, and eventually that whole Nazi horror of a structure called Israel will fucking disappear. Well deserved, and the sooner the better.

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Israel has nukes, and no doubt they would use them if presented with an existential threat.

The Israeli strike would not be limited and very likely trigger global nuclear war. In retaliation for Israeli nukes, other nuclear powers would nuke Israel. US would then juke them. They would then nuke US. Game over.

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Some game will have to be over to stop games Israel has been successfully playing since 1948. Israel has further plans and its nukes are not going away. With the current attitude those plans will be implemented sooner or later.

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well said

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CJ: This could wind up being the single deadliest phase of Israel’s onslaught to date.

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The only word that truly describes the zionists' deeply evil actions is their Holocaust against the Palestinian people, going on now for over a century when the zionists' planning stages are included.

See, https://www.palestineremembered.com/ for all the facts for this worse than the G holocaust.

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I think that if the Israelis start to massacre tens of thousands in Rafah, there will be a rapid and large escalation from all parts of the resistance. Yemen, Lebanon and Iraq, for starters. And highly likely others will enter the fray. Egypt? Jordan? Iran??? The chances of a region-wide war and even pro-US governments being toppled would increase exponentially.

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Don't kid yourself.

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Unfortunately don’t hold your breath. Simpler to turn off the oil.

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It will be pretty damn surreal if they do start bombing Rafah heavily. It's hard to know what happens next. They so far (literally) have gotten away with ethnic cleansing now for months - so will anything change if they simply accelerate it? Hope you're right - for the sake of these unarmed civilians being massacred - as the world looks on and just talks about it. :(

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"Support capitalism, it gives you freedom."

Freedom from a livable minimum wage, freedom from financial security, freedom from health care (in the US), freedom to become as empty-headed as a hollowed out pumpkin on Halloween...

"It’s totally not genocide and you’re an evil Nazi if you say it is."

Then call me an evil N@zi. Capitalism hasn't hollowed out my head that much yet.

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Americans are modern day serfs - wage slaves, exploited unscrupulously by their obscenely wealthy corporate plantation owners. And they continue to believe they live in the "land of the free" and "the brave". So brave, they're willing to bend over everyday for their loving corporate bosses and take it up the kazoo - year after year. Who needs Worker Unions right?

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Really! Who needs to organize and stand up to their abusers--er, I mean masters-- er, employers!

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Feb 10·edited Feb 10

Unions are the real problem!! Freedom is every man for himself!!! And who doesn't look up to a billionaire (as they piss on you?)

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Be careful not to look up while they piss on you... And keep smiling, wage slave!

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Oh yes - you must keep a smile on your face at all times!

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