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Good luck, getting justice from a british court.

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Especially when war criminal usa is squeezing uk's nuts.

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They sure don't act like they are acting under duress.

Rather, europeans are just natural bootlickers and asskissers. Great slaves, shitty masters.

Must be something in the water over there.

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Same water in Australia, Feral, but much more powerful here in this vassal state.

We have the Assange matter (Australian citizen, not US, not British) telling the truth); subservience to the British until 1945 then the US took the reigns and we've had wars ever since. Then there's AUKUS at AUS $ 360 billion+; Nuclear B52's in Darwin; Pine Gap spy network; a Prime Minister who was scuttled by the CIA and on it goes. And here's the rub.....still taking orders after all that.

You know the history of US dominance around the globe and now in there, boots and all with the self-styled master race of hateful Zionists killing thousands once again.

I forgot Ukraine, keeping them in the mix as well. It's the way they do things .....threats and blackmail, and the magic weapon of sanctions.....just ask Cuba, Chile, Venezuela, Nicaraguu, China, Iran, Iraq and almost every other country at some time in their lives.

According to Kissinger, the USA has no friends but little Australia thinks the likes of Biden and his neocons are our buddies. Yes. Naive as hell.

Never really had the guts to tell the Brits to get out from 1788 to 1945 (with Australians in 2024 still bowing to an English King ) or telling the arrogant USA to go find someone else to carry their bags and clean their boots and to help kill the millions they have since the end of WWII.

What's the next war on the agenda, feeble Joe? We'll be there. It's the nature of the beast.

Just whistle

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Many Australians wanted an official REPUBLIC, but Little Johnny Howard had the Referendum framed in such a way that it was impossible to Vote for this much longed for Republic. Howard was truly a Royal admirer since birth. Many Australians are not remotely interested in the Royals and have not been for a very long time. They are simply fodder for gossip magazines, and most people do not b juy those magazines for many years now.

Daring and after WW11 Americans were not liked by many in Australia-seen as loud-mouthed, garrulous and making claims that were not true re WW11

During and after WW11, a saying by Ozzies and esp., Returned Soldiers League members was "they are here (in Oz) and we are over there" (War Zones). Another common saying years back was "Yanks are septic tanks"

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The duress that comes from knowing what the top Gangster "nation" can and will do to them. Not to suggest in any way that the uk is a decent "nation".

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as far as I can tell, the Brits would be doing this on their own. they've been going even further than the US in restricting freedom of speech on Israel. Maybe the first amendment restricts the US government to a tiny extent, but I doubt it.

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The usa relies on the usa rank propaganda system to stop any speech they dislike. There is no freedom of speech in the usa because with that comes rational adult discussion of important issues. Look at what the usa is in that regard, with the demorats and the repuglicans in "congress" [with a few decent humans exempted].

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There are NO discussions ...just Laws passed.

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I agree Pretzel about the Brits..I was one. However the tide is turning.

Tonight I see Keir Starmer(Labour Party) has had to call for a ceasefire while he was in Scotland. I am HOPING something good will come out of this.

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wow, iirc he was all in on smearing Corbyn.

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pretzel, I used to think that we in the USA had freedom of speech, in part because that 1st Amendment guaranteed it. For a while, it seemed to be a fact. But there are now two parallel forces that have effectively undercut it.

The most obvious is censorship. It manifests in a number of forms, most of which are legalistic run-arounds, and which build steadily upon each other and themselves. Only rarely does a government directly censor speech. Biden created and tried to set up his "Disinfo Board", with a career propagandist as head, as a step towards censorship (, but fortunately public uproar over this and 1st Amendment concerns led to its quick dissolution.

But the fact is, much of the actual work of censorship is being conducted in other agencies, and often through "public-private partnership" organizations that are supposedly NOT government (even though many are substantially funded from U.S. funds - sometimes through 3rd party entities.)

But as I said, most of it is also not direct. It uses pressure campaigns to force social media and other info platforms to "self - police" under the implied threat of legislative actions against them. Facebook , Twitter, and others are examples. The Twitter files, and Judge Doughty's ruling make this clear.

The second side of narrative control is readily apparent in the extent of government-originated propaganda that not only emanates from the mouths of politicians and Deep State staff, but also from its repetition by the MSM which have kicked aside any concern for journalistic integrity in favor of 'access journalism'. There are probably an endless supply of access whores out there who care most for their careers and care little about what it involves.

At any rate, I've never seen the combination of these two pernicious efforts at anything like the breadth and scale (or success level) that I am seeing today.

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"public-private" is a euphemism for Fascism

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i didnt say we had it, i said the US government might be constrained from going as far as the British have lately in order to keep up appearances.

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You don't know the half of it. I was incarcerated for writing and publishing my first major book EXPOSING THE MONEY MACHINE, which exposed the government and those above it. I told the public that Bush owns the ballot machines which are operated by the CIA, that Gates would depopulate the planet using vaccines, that 197 top military brass were fired due to not being willing to pass orders to kill US citizens, and much much more. Upon release I wrote two much more powerful and informative books. Last time I went to court, the judge threatened my life.

https://truthforce.work

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They seem a bit enthusiastic for that. I see them sort of the way I see dogs.

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Dogs are beautiful creatures, brits have never shown this in all their long and sordid history

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I am a cat, so you can imagine how I feel about the smelly, noisy brutish things.

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Excuse me Feral. British are not European since BREXIT!

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That's like saying that the swiss aren't europeans.

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Right Feral I have had enough. While you sit there in the US and tell us who we are.

My family was split apart by Brexit.

ALL of us who don't live in the UK any more have had to do tons of work to change passports/get identity papers etc.

Applying for Passports is HELL on earth.

The STUPID British allied themselves with the sinking ship of the US.

This is not saying Europe is much better BUT I am happy to be out of the great British empire!

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All of which is not relevant to the point. Anyway, the folks on the continent are at least as slavish as the brits.

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Feral- UK is still in Europe, just not in the EU!!!!! Geography!

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UK is NOT in Europe

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UK is in the continent of Europe. It is not in the EU.

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From where we sit on the other side of the pond, Great Britain looks awfully close to Europe. Look at a map.

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I live in France...............UK is not in Europe.

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I am getting really fed up wit this........UK is not in Europe.

Russia is close to us but we are not in Russia!

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What do you consider "Europe"? Geography? Anything else?

Hope not the EU.

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Free Assange!

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Since you are a Scot Gregot I was happy to see that Keir Starmer is now talking about a ceasefire.

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The SNP and the Greens called for a ceasefire months ago.

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I know this but read the Guardian today!

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Also, Starmer wants to topple the SNP Scottish Government and replace them with a Labour government in Edinburgh.

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Jeez Gregor. Exactly. Which is why Labour has to change it's tune.

While I am about this: Why has Scotland not joined the EU?

Looks like Ireland is on it's way!

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I don't think they can as long as they are part of the UK.

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Westminster (london) England has been terrified that UK will be split.

Wales seems to be going that way.

Some of the people in the British Isles want to govern themselves NOT from London.

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Craig Murray has done a lot of reporting on the SNP, which apparently is both corrupt and little interested in Scottish independence.

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Which is exactly why we need independence! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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An important Jewish voice you've not mentioned is that of Norm Finkelstein.

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i don't think the example they've made of him so far will be enough for the bloodthirsty US government. I wish with all my heart it weren't so.

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I sure hope the US has destroyed enough of Assange's life that they don't need to do any more. It would be the best news ever to hear that he is free.

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Wishful thinking

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Israel's inhumanity and atrocities has completely shocked me. I always knew that zionism was horrible and the way the Israelis colonized and stole Palestine was evil and wrong, but killing children for throwing stones, shooting that man in handcuffs after sending him into the hospital, bombing hospitals and destroying everything.....maybe it should not have surprised me and shocked me, but it did. I have always thought that people who had experienced the holocaust or descended from survivors should probably experience some kind of therapy to help them to understand how and why that happened, but nothing like that ever happened. Instead people were re-traumatized with visits to Auschwitz and they were told that Palestinians were animals.

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Actual News services? No where. I check into The NY Times to see what putrid propaganda they are pushing, then I go to Common Dreams to see what the lost liberals are eating up.

But here's my way of making sense of all the nonsense.

"News" commentary/investigative : The Grayzone (Max, Aaron, & Crew), Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi & Walter Kirn - America this Week, The Duran, Jimmy Dore, Revolutionary Black Out Network, Sabbysabs, Garland Nixon, Whitney Webb, Aaron Goode/American Exception, Going Underground, Geopolitical Economy Report, and You of course Caitlin!

Anyone else that is a must listen?

Free Julian Assange! - Free Palestine! - Revolution Now!

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And Chris Hedges Report is brilliant - substack

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100%

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Note well that nothing has ever changed war criminal, gangster group, usa.

The only thing that could stop them is if and when folks have the cojones to stand up and point out that ONLY the usa blows up its own citizens with Lawrence Livermore Labs nanothermite that these "citizens" helped develop with their tax dollars.

Anyone see the irony?

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I check and write on WAPO and send people here............I think it is working.

I have to say I loathe and detest going on there and see all the 'liberal elitist' bowing to Biden the warmonger and propaganda.

SO far I have not been thrown off and most of my comments are still there.

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Moon of Alabama.

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If you want to step away from a focus on foreign policy, there is resilience.org ad Nate Hagens' series The Great Simplification

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World Socialist Website.

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Except Jimmy Dore, Gop apologist and fake leftist, oh and opportunist. Yeah, don't like him, particularly after his white man take down of Cornel West attempting to "school" him. Sabby is awesome, but her cohorts are Dore a** kissers.

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The Katie Halper Show

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Useful Idiots and the Monday Mourning part of Useful Idiots

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🎯

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Assange's Showdown With The Empire Of Lies, war crimes, genocides, Holocausts, SERIAL LIARS, crimes against humanity, rape, torture, "butchering women and children", blowing up their own citizens, ... .

[please add your own]

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I avoid any mainstream news channels... I prefer to keep my critical thinking facilities intact. I will not be gaslit. Thank you for your clear-sightedness.

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To follow...all those you named plus Patrick Lawrence, Alan McLeod.

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...and Scott Ritter.

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Something cool: Many of the most supporters of Palestinians and speak out forcefully against the genocide were raised in strong Jewish households, such as Norman Finkelstein, Aaron Mate. Glenn Greenwald, Katie Halper, Noam Chomsky, et al. (even Amy Goodman finally got on board). How great is that?

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Caitlin.

I am deaf...........so are millions of others.

Please do transcripts for us.

Thank you.

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Jenny - there is a "Transcript" section - it's a drop-down arrow you need to click to expand the transcript. It's towards the top of the post.

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Thanks Chang..........impossible to read!

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I think that I did not understand what JennyStokes was asking. When I see the posts, I can read them or listen to them. What do you mean about a drop-down arrow to expand the transcript? I didn't see an arrow. Maybe I don't have a brain

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ahhh. I got it. But first I had to click on that arrow sitting in a rectangle and pointing up, then the transcript arrow came on.

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I mostly like what Caitlin has to say, but I don't think it is a good idea to let others do our thinking or listening for us as much as we can avoid doing that. There is so much to read and hear it is sometimes nice to know what someone we trust (like Caitlin) thinks and hears, but we don't always have to agree with them or expect them to do our analyses for us.

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Susan.

Do you have a brain?

Is Caitlin asking you to agree with her?

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I was directing my comment at you, not at Caitlin. Do you have any way to ask what a person means besides insulting them?

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Jenny: please accept my apology. I did not understand what you were asking. I would still prefer not to be insulted when I don't understand.

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When you insult others, expect an insult in return. I am not Christian, I don't have to turn the cheek or pray for my enemies or love those who hate me. You are quick to make assumptions and to think that you are a superior mind while you are obviously out of your league. I suggest that you learn to curb your tongue. NO brains and no heart. It is reflected in your comments.

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They voted to leave the "EUROPEAN UNION", the trading body. "Europe" itself is a geographic continent, like Africa, or Asia. There are 5 over the world and every country belongs to one. Not every country in Europe belongs to the European Union.

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Yes, the US is making a big deal of Navalny, and I think it's just a distraction from the Julian Assange court case.

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Here is a Wikileaks cable that you may not be familiar with.

You can see why Assange is hated by the blood thirsty warmongers.

A week after Obama gave his speech accepting the Nobel Peace Prize

he slaughtered dozens of women and children in Yemen.

He topped that war crime off by covering up the crime.

It was claimed that the Pentagon was targeting a terrorist in Yemen.

Legal problem was that his organization wasn't on the official list

of designated terrorist organizations (darn that paperwork!).

Obama/Pentagon missed their target but slaughtered dozens of women and children.

The perps met with their Yemen counterparts afterwards and the meeting was

described in a memo. Yemen covered for Obama/Pentagon by publicly claiming

that Yemen forces had accidentily killed all those women and children,

but that pesky Assange and his organization leaked the memo!

The cable summing up a meeting between General Petraeus and President Saleh of Yemen

discusses laundering weapons to get around the 'American "bureaucracy"'.

Was this standard operating procedure? We sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and they

transfer them to President Saleh of Yemen to use against the Houthis.

https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10SANAA4_a.html

"The U.S. could convince Saudi Arabia and the UAE to supply six

helicopters each if the American "bureaucracy" prevented

quick approval, Saleh suggested. The General responded that

he had already considered the ROYG's request for helicopters

and was in discussions with Saudi Arabia on the matter. "We

won't use the helicopters in Sa'ada, I promise. Only against

al-Qaeda," Saleh told General Petraeus."

Saleh *'promised'* to use the helicopters only in war #1 and not war #2.

In the same meeting the Yemeni made a joke about lying to their own Parliament.

""We'll continue saying the

bombs are ours, not yours," Saleh said, prompting Deputy

Prime Minister Alimi to joke that he had just "lied" by

telling Parliament that the bombs in Arhab, Abyan, and Shebwa

were American-made but deployed by the ROYG."

The lie was well appreciated by the American side who gifted the Yemeni

with an increase in U.S. security assistance.

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Have to include this too. General Petraeus demonstrates intimate familial knowledge

of the women and children he slaughtered, else complete shamelessness:

"4. (S/NF) Saleh praised the December 17 and 24 strikes

against AQAP but said that "mistakes were made" in the

killing of civilians in Abyan. The General responded that

the only civilians killed were the wife and two children of

an AQAP operative at the site,"

According to Amnesty International the December 17th attack alone was devastating:

"A Yemeni parliamentary inquiry found that 41 local residents, including 14 women and 21 children, and 14 alleged al-Qa’ida members were killed in the attack."

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No thumbs up, no replies.

Is it because this thread is dead

or no one wants to read a leak from Assange

or (more likely) people *still* don't get Obama?

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I agree with you about Medea. I want to be Medea Benjamin when I "grow up". I love how she and Code Pink are an eternal thorn in the side of the US Congress. Absolutely brilliant.

Your last point about the indigenous peoples and their connection to the land really struck a chord with me. I've never felt comfortable in my "skin" as a person of mixed ancestry, and I've always lamented the fact the my great-grandmother was removed from her people and turned into "white". My dad's family had no culture or language or anything that was their own and none really to pass down except "American exceptionalism" and all that nonsense. It's probably why I'm working hard to see that the Palestinian people can have their home returned to them someday and justice received for the families for all those lost in the genocide by Israel. #FromTheRiverToTheSeaPalestineWillBeFree !

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As for genocide........an old US skill......

From Alex Lo from the South China Morning Post (with some additions)… ."for those who do study history rather than rely on the now-neutured mainstream media for information and knowledge, it shouldn’t be surprising that the one country committing genocide is fully supported by another country…... founded on genocides.

As a matter of interest, who were the Seminole, Arikaree, Cayuse, Apache, Haida, Tlingit, Nisqually, Muckleshoot, Klickitat, Nez Perce, Sioux, Cheyenne, Arapaho, Paiute, Bannock, Shoshone – whose people suffered genocide and whose nations were effectively erased from history?"

They were all called “savages” then but today they would have been called “terrorists”, a commonly used expression to make a propaganda point.

Check with Netanyahu, the leader of the 2024 Israeli terrorist/ savages / Zionists, supported as he is all the way by the good old USA.

"To add what is surely the height of perversity, many major weapon systems such as Tomahawk missiles, Apache and Cheyenne attack helicopters and Chinook heavy-lift transport copters have been named after some of those peoples exterminated by the same military that is now prolifically deploying those weapons around the world."

We all know that Israel is using all the US freebies and weapons from Biden’s Israeli-controlled Congress against defenceless Palestinian women and children who are definitely not "savages"or "terrorists".

Well done, Genocide Joe.. His tombstone will certainly read.....American Humbug

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I'm afraid there was some wishful thinking re Assange. There is always the possibility that he will recover enough to be a threat to the Empire again. Imagine if he were back at the helm of Wikileaks and someone in Mossad sent him dox proving that they knew Oct 7th was coming, did nothing, actually helped it, because their intention was to empty Gaza of Palestinians so they can put settlers there, access the offshore gas without giving Palestinians any of the money, and dig a competing canal to make money on the northern edge of Gaza--so they needed Oct 7 to justify it. The Empire doesn't want to take this risk, and =its current managers have signaled quite clearly that they are comfortable behaving with fairly open contempt toward Australia, world opinion, the international court, the UN, and the Democrat base. They continue to mouth the usual shibboleths about free speech, human rights, and peace but feel no need to make a real pretense of believing in any of that.

One more remark, about Who Inspires You...on the level of governments, South Africa is doing its duty in taking Israel to court, and a few others joined in after...but Israel feels confident in its big brother shielding it from consequences. What country is doing something actual, physical to try to stop Israel? Only little, impoverished, war-ravaged Yemen--and with almost no violence. I am filled with admiration for Yemen..

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