Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley): Nobody who claims to oppose the Gaza genocide while simultaneously supporting Joe Biden actually opposes the Gaza genocide. They’re just saying what needs to be said to win approval in the political sector they want the approval of. They’re not taking a moral stand, they’re cultivating an image. They’re building a brand.
It's a shame we can't agree with someone at 100%. I'll take standing for working people and Palestine any day over what you have. That is the same framing AOC uses to justify voting for Genocide Joe. Vote NO on Genocide Joe. Vote Jill Stein24 and George Gallaway PM!
Can you point us to a summary article that might explain the desire for independence? I can understand Ireland's because I know the history a bit more.
I did find when I was in NZ that they hated the English. The "f...n" Pommes" is what I remember from decades ago. I'm thinking that same group makes up the WASPS who are members of the criminal Plutocracy that runs the US economy and totally supports the "Jewish Lobby", that is if it isn't actually the "Jewish Lobby".
Much of what is written here could be used as an argument for every state in the USA to go its own way, and then every county in every state.
I appreciate the idea that Scottish voters are more about "inclusiveness", but that seems to be more "class" related than nation related. The same argument can be made for different states in the US. The MAGA group and the "Biden group" have more in common with one another than they realize. It is the Plutocracy financed "divisive groups" that keep us apart.
The "truth" as I see it is that the US and the UK are controlled by a Plutocracy that manages to buy elections. With the genocide in Gaza, it is becoming more and more obvious that the "Jewish Lobby" controls US politics.
Please NOTE: the "Jewish Lobby" is Lawrence Wilkerson's term and he used it back when Clinton was elected to the presidency. It has almost nothing to do with Jews but is related to the Jewish Mafia which is tightly integrated with the Mafia in general which in turn makes up a large proportion of the "American Elite". Aaron Good's series on "Empire and the Deep State" examines this history going back over a century.
Understanding "the Deep State" (The Blob, The Pimpocracy, The Oligarchy) and recognizing that is is somewhat synonymous with the "Jewish Lobby", one might conclude that it was the "Jewish Lobby" that killed JFK and RFK or that it was the "Jewish Lobby" that destroyed the WTC.
Now at this point people often start thinking "Conspiracy Nut" and wondering about tin foil hats. However, you would be hard pressed to explain the all out effort of the "Jewish Lobby" to suppress the American Campus demonstrations against the Gaza genocide or Biden's continuing support of Israel, or Netanyahu's ridiculous call for suppression of the student protests without acknowledging the ADL and AIPAC financed counter demonstrators. The GreyZone was reporting on that this morning:
I'm just a guy on the very outside looking in. I think it would be better to support Galloway's position and remain in the UK, but work your butts off to destroy the Plutocracy that is destroying your nation.
IMHO, it is only through a unified world government that true peace will ever come. Otherwise we're going to be dominated by "realists" like Mearsheimer and his "might makes right" theories of the world.
One thing that would change my mind... If Ireland and Scotland were to join the BRICS.
Yes, he was in support of Brexit. I heard it from his own lips. But I rather think standing up to oppose genocide ranks a bit higher on the moral standings than an issue like Brexit. And as Caitlin herself has said:if you find yourself agreeing with everything someone says there is something wrong with you!
and if you look at this european entity now (not only with regards to the genocides at hand), one can only admit that exiting from it was the correct choice (alas brexit didn't get rid of domestic virmin). europe became and is very anti-people and anti-worker and very pro-corporate.
I suppose he is concerned about the independent Scotland's economic viability if it separates. It's similar with the American Southern states who are relatively undeveloped and dependent on Government subsidies.
What is special about the EU? its a corrupt institution run by US stooges like Ursula von Leyen, for the benefit of the US oligarchs and their megacorps.
The EU is what allows the US to turn the entire Europe into one gigantic vassal state at the flick of a switch - circumventing any input, handbrakes, dissent, dialogue, or democratic control from 300 million different people in dozens of completely different countries:
The withdrawal of Great Britain from the EU alliance aka "Brexit", is something that different people have different reasons for....but pinpointing that the EU is structurally and terminally corrupt and coopted, and was contributing to Britain's breakdown, is a 100% correct point by Galloway.
Of course the next step is to regain sanity and unity among the British masses. But Britain inside the EU had NO change whatsoever to right its ship, as it was getting the worst of BOTH the EU regime and its own domestic mis-leaders.
While BREXIT, does seem to have negatively affected Britain's economy, there were many current leaders who supported it. They are failing to take advantage of the situation because they are pawns of the City of London and the Financial criminals that exist there.
I encourage you to watch Galloway's MOATS youTube podcast. I find his criticism of the British government very refreshing.
That's how bad this whole suppression of speech has become; from my perspective that comment was deleted the moment that I posted it. But thank you very much for unintentionally notifying me. Yes, it's a whole world wide fascist movement amongst the wealthy to kill us all, now that they don't need us.
I believe anyone who supports Biden and/or genocide are evil. I really want the killing to stop, its heart breaking to think while Im in my warm bed at night sleeping, children are being blown to bits, it really makes me sick.
IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE BOMBING OF DRESDEN, TOKYO, HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI, NORTH KOREA, NORTH VIETNAM, CAMBODIA. You must understand this. This is who and what we have been and continue to be.
The CIA were formed after WWII, it’s been going on since then. They’ve been lying to the American public to get them to support wars since then. They’ve been lying about civilian casualties, lying about who they bomb and why, lying about the (at least) 85 coups/regime changes they’ve made happen and the biggest lie of all : JFK’s assassination.
Well Sam. Yemen doesn't count for most people in the world.
They have been systematically been bombed by S. Arabia etc. They hold a very important part of the world and to my mind they have very little to live for and will keep on supporting Palestine until they are all wiped out.
USA talks about "PATRIOTS" and they have NO understanding of the word.
I lived in the USA for 23yrs and I am sorry to 'burst your bubble' but most people I met were convinced that "democracy' was the way to go. Democracy is/was the American Dream. SO much so that they DENIED other countries (especially in S. America) to hold their own elections.
Then: They decided to take on the rest of the world.
I am a post colonial brat from the British hegemony and what I see is absolutely NO different from the great BRITISH Empire.
You are now in 'free fall!'
MOST countries are beginning to hate the US just as they did the British
She is a planted puppet with the goal of bringing young people onto the "progressive" side. The US political elite was getting a little bit too old for the twenty-somethings, so they needed a bait.
Exactly right my friend. I was fooled to the tune of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.............................
Who's the gay Puerto Rican who represents one of the districts in New York. The Grey Zone was talking about him recently. I guess ADL and AIPAC figured out they could sell him in that district. Apparently he spends a lot of time in Israel.
"Why anyone bothers to vote beats the shit out of me."
If elections can be rigged and stolen then why bother to take part in a corrupt system?
I stopped voting after Obama’s huge betrayal of everything he ran on. Biden’s history was there for all to see, but shitlibs ignored it and said that they would push him left after he won. They couldn’t have done it, but of course they didn’t even try. Lots of hand wringing during the $15 minimum wage debate, but once it failed they moved on to the next promise, failed, moved on…. And now they aren’t even talking about doing it if voters only gave democrats the majority…again. How many decades have they ran on abortion rights even after having numerous chances to pass it.
Yes, Cornel is a bit of an old fogy to say the least, not impressive and he screwed over the Green Party wasting lots of their scarce time and money because he couldn't handle following their commonsense rules. Now, he's out on his own and will just blow away in the wind.
Yes, a kind man, good heart with ZERO political skills. When Cornel announced I donated and signed up to volunteer. Not a word still to this day. The day Jill Stein announced, donation and they sent an email with when training started. Please go the site and see if she is not yet on your state ballot. She is on 21 states now. It takes so little time to get five signatures : )
Please share this. Working for Bernie was the same training, must be a registered voter, not have signed another petition for ballot, still living in their registration. Fascism has come face to face with us. https://www.jillstein2024ballotaccess.com/
I signed up to volunteer with Jill last week and have donated $500. I am tweeting Jill's name whenever I have time in the day @karenthedamned on X/Twitter. First time I have felt any hope since way before October 7.
The day I switched when Jill announced. I asked one of the campaign staff if Jill would consider Cornel as a VP. She told me they were already putting together a discussion.
The "Green New Deal" originated in 2010 with the Green Party US. The Dems stole it later and diluted it and then dropped it. (Dems love stealing other party's ideas to attract voters, then of course they'll drop them because their corporate donors don't care about or want anything to do with the environment.)
Even on the Grayzone AOC's apparent support for the Green New Deal (really dirty words in health freedom) is used as an indication that AOC is some sort of evil left wing WEF.
Very clever propaganda from the corporates; polarising even a hint of green as an evil control agenda.
It's interesting to see, now that everyone in alternative media is saying vote Green or Independent, how Green politicians, if not perhaps green policies, are being rehabilitated.
Thank you. Yes, Labour in the UK has also dropped any Green investment 'crap'. And the GND has now become just the Green Deal in the EU and is a total farce.
I don't think anyone with integrity, compassion or concern for equality or the environment will be allowed to be elected in the West because the (silicon valley, rentier, fossil fuel and animal/industrial ag) corporate donors are in charge of politics.
With the seizing of Russian assets by the EU, as requested, which is accelerating the new Cold war, even the US corporate donors are going to soon be feeling the pinch and getting a taste of their own medicine. The West will be further and further isolated from the majority. Even US financier families themselves might have to go back to the land!
Do we get the government we deserve, or deserve the government we get? We might just have to vote one way or another to influence the outcome…. Ok I know that electoral systems are weighted bizarrely and that we are told not to waste a vote, but we have to make a concerted effort to change the f***ing system.
The unelected bureaucrats of the three-letter acronyms of the U.S. government, with support or acquiescence from minions of the billionaire class and most members of the three branches of government: the executive, legislative, and judicial.
Exactly right. The idea that a country $30++trillion in debt is FREE & ELECTS REPRESENTIVES is nonsensical. Biggest fraud ever perpetuated among the public. We are ran and ruled by central bankers, the MIC, and all their affiliates. Quite literally the FASCISM no one sees or talks about. Lol. It's so bizarre. We're an open air prison of mentally and physically poisoned debt slaves. When will the ppl realize we won't be voting our way out of this? These politicians/potus have no power- they are just characters for the masses to fight over. No one gets to DC who can't be blackmailed- this is where the intelligence agencies come in. The entire "system" is weaponized against the ppl and designed to keep us financially enslaved. Our ppl perish as our money is taken to support wars and sent to foreign countries for endless various reasons/ventures.
"The CIA and NSA are not “bureaucrats”. They are a wing of the Pentagon."
I used the term bureaucrats to describe the many people who have careers in government agencies, regardless of who is elected. The CIA and NSA are full of bureaucrats, like the Pentagon and all other federal agencies. The CIA, NSA, FBI, and DOJ are the muscle, so to speak, while the DOD and defense contractors are the money-laundering side of the Deep State.
“Bureaucrats” sounds like harmless suits. These are specialists in murder, armed insurrection, spying and disinformation. That’s who is in charge of the U.S. government.
“Cue up "but you gotta vote Biden because pronouns" or something equally asinine.”
Voting blue for the foreseeable future is about a lot more than pronouns. The evil is more inane than right wing conspiracy theories about “the Deep State”, and more tangible than pedophiles operating out of pizza restaurants. Arguing that Trump is less culpable, or discouraging the electorate from voting at all are reckless acts to say the least. The US got itself into this mess, at least in part, because of complacency. In hindsight, setting up an experimental democracy while making voting within it voluntary was asking for trouble. Some of the worst aspects of human nature - for example, greed - were enabled to flourish with little accountability.
Well, yes, but Trump says the deep state includes the entire civil service and the entire ‘administrative state.’ And it only includes the intelligence agencies to the extent that they worked to undermine Trump with their outrageous Russiagate narratives. The administrative state is scandalous, of course, because the whole thing has been captured by the mammoth institutions it was created to regulate and no longer means anything anyway. That is not the position of the GOP. It wants to do away with even the POSSIBILITY of putting any governance at all upon the pillaging corporations. All based upon the ‘original intent’ of our ‘sacred constitution’, which was drawn up in secret. Madison’s notes didn’t even become public until 1840.
Just a quibble, though. You cannot vote for genocidaires. Period. The end. No way, no how. And, if Biden turns out for any reason not to be the Democrat nominee, whoever takes his place will be drenched in blood no matter what he or she starts saying when he or she becomes the nominee. The Republicans and Democrats are full supporters of genocide and permanent war. One cannot vote for any of them without drenching oneself in blood.
🤣🤣🤣 Very true. Reference was to the 2025 version of the contract on America of the Heritage Foundation or whoever that the Trumpers and Trump himself have apparently jumped on board with. Should have made that clear.
I saw AOC interviewed on Zeteo and was flummoxed by her criticism of the carnage happening in Gaza, while being supportive of Biden. Talk out of both sides of your mouth much? She is just another politician who will twist anything any which way to get herself elected.
No excuses,gaza is the line but, i have heard say, “ if i compromise a little,because elected know, it will be about compromise, i can at least do a little good” I highly recommend this old movie, Distinguished Gentlemen. Even tho done years ago,as relevant now.
Only this situation needs a lot of good. Real guts. No red lips smiling and talking progressive out of one side while supporting fascist out of the other side.
Smiley, huggy-poo JB and AOC. Just the perfect stimulus to trigger reverse peristalsis of my breakfast. Hypocrisy is too mild a descriptor. Sweet and dandy. The perfect pander. Quintessence of the USA = prevarication to the fabulist extreme. You [we] suck, America, as do all your morbid decomposing appendages — Israel, NATO, any other flaming a-holes who wish to be members of this decrepit excuse for biological organization.
For Biden, one could also substitute Trump, or RFK Jr. Maybe consider Jill Stein (who just got arrested for participating in a pro-Palestinian protest!) and the Green Party.
I still think Bobby is better and has a real chance to appeal to most of the principled voters. No one likes his Jewish friends but considering what they did to his relatives it still may be our only good option for now. If he gets in we can determine our next cleanup moves then.
Right. This should be the end of keeping voters on the Democratic Party rez with "Lesser-of-Two-Evils" arguments. Because what's more evil than genocide? Dem stalwarts will attempt to argue that "Oh, the Orange Man will genocide harder than Genocide Joe." But the Orange Man isn't the one who is actually engineering this genocide.
Jill Stein, the only one on ballots who will stop the Genocide. I would like to see several Trillion in reparations to Palestine from our former friends israel. Wait, I don't think israel will exist much longer with GDP already down 26%.
I oppose the 'unfolding genocide' in Gaza, to use AOC's term. And I'm urging everyone to vote Dem against fascism in November. As Sartre argued in his play, we are all given only choices where we end up with 'dirty hands.' If the choice is to vote for a genocide enabler vs a genocide expander and democracy crusher on the home front, do what needs to be done. Clean hands is not an option at this conjuncture.
The point is you get 'dirty hands' whatever you choose, and not chosing is also a choice, and you still get dirty hands. We are not affirming moral choices in an evil world. We want to stop a fascist takeover in November. You can lend a hand, or not. But if he wins, you'll have to explain to your grandchildren what you did, or didn't do, to stop him.
The fascists have already taken over. They just have different letters after their names. That being said, I will never ever vote for a Democrat again. I was a lifelong Dem. No more. Although I sincerely doubt my vote matters.
Right there with you friend. I will be voting Jill Stein and I don't care how many times I hear but Trump. I donated to Cornel and then he wet the bed now on 3 ballots. Jill on 21 all the states with electoral votes. This race with 3 Genocide providers could make this race winnable with 34%. I never in my life thought this would or could happen.
It does matter. Do you want to live in a country where all voting rights are denied? I gained my view of their importance in Mississippi n the 1960s. The gains made in that time mattered, and still do.
I cannot imagine being shamed by anything a Vote Blue shill has to say. It is all just campaign rhetoric, looks the same every four years. We are likely minutes away from being told that this election is the most important election of our lifetime.
Biden pushing for fascism here. By advocating more rights of women, and defending voting rights against undue restrictions? Fascism is already here? I'm one of the one million Trump wants to put in a detention camp on day one. Under Biden, I can post away.
Censorship? Do you mean his efforts to have social media urge people to get their vaccinations, and not simply spread fake news about why we shouldn't do so? In my youth, we all got the polo vaccine, and it worked well. Nice try, no cigar.
Good grief. Biden has had numerous chances to pass abortion rights, but he hasn’t even tried.
Obama said that his first priority was to codify abortion, but when asked when he was going to do it he said that it wasn’t a priority. At least educate yourself on what candidates actually believe.
Biden also said he was ending forever wars and yet he’s pushing the Ukraine war and planning for war with China and possibly North Korea.
You mean like, having the u.s. Justice Dept. stand before the Supreme court arguing protests do not have 1st. amendment rights. Yes, they did that. Vote NO on Genocide Joe! Jill Stein for Peace.
The two-party system is not a choice - it's a scam. You lie when you claim it's an actual choice or the electoral system is legitimate. You know as well as everyone here it isn't. So get off your high horse as if you are doing something virtuous by participating in what is an obvious scam. You're just another sucker who has fallen for the lesser of two evils bullshit. There is nothing more evil then genocide - and if you vote for a party that supports genocide, you've chosen to become complicit in that genocide with your vote. The only moral choice here is not to participate in supporting a political party responsible for a genocide. No one is FORCING you to vote for the duopoly. You're just making up bogus rationalizations - which amount to juvenile tribalism for a corrupt party, and an illegitimate electoral process. You pretend voting for the Democratic party is all you can do. No it isn't all you can do. No one is putting a gun to your head here.
Stein? Because she's backed by thee GOP, and a vote for her helps to elect Trump. If you want multiple parties, as I do, you get IRV (instant runoff) and proportional rep passed, also with universal registration at birth, just like SS.
Wow, yes clueless, voting for lesser Genocide is voting for Genocide. My you hear the screams of Palestinian people as your head hits the pillow each night.
do you already have an explanation to give to your grandchildren for the genocide you condone today? please share. you can not stop a fascist takeover. it already happened.
I don't 'condone' it, I protest it every week at our local courthouse. I meet with my congress people urging them to stand with those calling for a ceasefire, and to demand the same of Biden. I support Palestine's self-determination and demand a cut off of funds to Israel. But I also know how to survey the terrain, assess voters and see what's rising among the Trumpers. I know it has to be stopped in November, otherwise everything is worse, here and abroad, is much worse. And thinking fascism is already here only means you have no idea what it is, or how to fight it.
"And thinking fascism is already here only means you have no idea what it is" - so you are the authority on the definition of fascism. How come it's the first time I'm hearing of you? Where have you been hiding?
Your point is a classic non-sequitor. I maded no claim to be any such 'authority,' but I have studied and written about it's rise in the U.S. for at least two decades now. Google around and you can find them. Don't worry about 'definitions' so much, just study both Team Biden then Trump and his crew, and what they are promising to do. I would believe Trump's threats by seeing the forces they are assembling.
Deep state this and imperialist that. If they think there is no difference between Trump and Biden they aren’t watching. I believe the lunatic Cristian right wants Trump as president because they think he’ll start a nuclear war.
There is no difference. Same wars for profit. Same genocide. Same inequality.
If you want to trot out “abortion” , it’s Obama who sat for 8 years and let the GOP stockpile open seats in federal and supreme courts. Then Trump fills the seats with extremist judges. Then the Dems wring their hands.
Speaking of evil, the sum total of any optimism I have for the future of the human enterprise generally is frequently reduced to a saying I once heard or read somewhere: Evil is always winning, but never wins; good is always losing, but never loses.
I have. Proffessor Bidenopolous is a NeoCon, as an unconsenquential Senator, a habitual liar, he voted for ever war put up for vote. He is an angry warlord wannabe who is facilitating the deadliest war in Europe since the WW2 and the most efficient killing of the civilians since the WW2.
"And I'm urging everyone to vote Dem against fascism in November"
Fascism is already here and it has been for a long time. Bush nullified most of the construction and Obama rescinded habeas corpus. Biden said fck you to the 1st and 4th amendments. Also look up inverted totalitarianism.
Congress votes on the bills that lobbyists write after being told what to get passed from the donors of both parties.
You’re openly supporting genocide because of propaganda? Who was genocided during Trump’s term? Can democracy be more openly attacked than by helping an ally murder an entire demographic? Are you assholes going to be bombing Nashville in retaliation for J6 if we keep you on??
Solution! You can volunteer and/or donate to the Green Party at gp.org! I voted for Jill Stein in the CA primary and signed up to volunteer. I also donated $250, which is exorbitant for me.
"we are all given only choices where we end up with 'dirty hands.'" - how so? What about abstaining, isn't that a choice? How are you responsible for the corrupt system and who is forcing you to legitimize it by participating?
In your case, I guess, you'll tell your children "I voted for genocide". And ongoing fascism etc - don't pretend it's not already here.
It's "for" and your participation that matters, not "against". If you participate, you are responsible for that which your vote gave legitimacy to. No escape, and no excuse.
It's not already here, but it's waiting in the wings. Would you rather fight against Biden's Zionism and his concesions to labor and the Black vote? Or would you rather fight under Trump's Project 2025 where most of us will be underground or in his detetion camps? Make up your mind. You don't get 'community chest' or 'get out of jail free.' Fight and defeat the fascist danger. It was in the White House, but its now seeking to return, on steriods.
"Make up your mind." - this false choice is of your own invention. Enjoy, but leave people capable of independent thinking alone.
There are at least two forum characters with your Something Horrible 2025™ obsession and the topic has been discussed over and over. Join them in your group trolling.
"If you support either party, you have blood on your hands" George Galloway
Mr. Galloway is a true warrior. Glad his voice is back in the Commons.
Sadly, he is a Unionist and opposes Scottish independence despite being born in the city that had the highest support for YES in 2024 (Dundee)
It's a shame we can't agree with someone at 100%. I'll take standing for working people and Palestine any day over what you have. That is the same framing AOC uses to justify voting for Genocide Joe. Vote NO on Genocide Joe. Vote Jill Stein24 and George Gallaway PM!
I absolutely agree with him on Palestine.
Can you point us to a summary article that might explain the desire for independence? I can understand Ireland's because I know the history a bit more.
I did find when I was in NZ that they hated the English. The "f...n" Pommes" is what I remember from decades ago. I'm thinking that same group makes up the WASPS who are members of the criminal Plutocracy that runs the US economy and totally supports the "Jewish Lobby", that is if it isn't actually the "Jewish Lobby".
https://bylines.scot/opinion/why-scotland-should-be-independent/
Thanks.
Much of what is written here could be used as an argument for every state in the USA to go its own way, and then every county in every state.
I appreciate the idea that Scottish voters are more about "inclusiveness", but that seems to be more "class" related than nation related. The same argument can be made for different states in the US. The MAGA group and the "Biden group" have more in common with one another than they realize. It is the Plutocracy financed "divisive groups" that keep us apart.
The "truth" as I see it is that the US and the UK are controlled by a Plutocracy that manages to buy elections. With the genocide in Gaza, it is becoming more and more obvious that the "Jewish Lobby" controls US politics.
Please NOTE: the "Jewish Lobby" is Lawrence Wilkerson's term and he used it back when Clinton was elected to the presidency. It has almost nothing to do with Jews but is related to the Jewish Mafia which is tightly integrated with the Mafia in general which in turn makes up a large proportion of the "American Elite". Aaron Good's series on "Empire and the Deep State" examines this history going back over a century.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL
Understanding "the Deep State" (The Blob, The Pimpocracy, The Oligarchy) and recognizing that is is somewhat synonymous with the "Jewish Lobby", one might conclude that it was the "Jewish Lobby" that killed JFK and RFK or that it was the "Jewish Lobby" that destroyed the WTC.
Now at this point people often start thinking "Conspiracy Nut" and wondering about tin foil hats. However, you would be hard pressed to explain the all out effort of the "Jewish Lobby" to suppress the American Campus demonstrations against the Gaza genocide or Biden's continuing support of Israel, or Netanyahu's ridiculous call for suppression of the student protests without acknowledging the ADL and AIPAC financed counter demonstrators. The GreyZone was reporting on that this morning:
https://novaramedia.com/2024/03/01/a-pro-israel-group-is-trying-to-intimidate-palestine-protesters-with-claims-of-infiltration/
I'm just a guy on the very outside looking in. I think it would be better to support Galloway's position and remain in the UK, but work your butts off to destroy the Plutocracy that is destroying your nation.
IMHO, it is only through a unified world government that true peace will ever come. Otherwise we're going to be dominated by "realists" like Mearsheimer and his "might makes right" theories of the world.
One thing that would change my mind... If Ireland and Scotland were to join the BRICS.
Thanks Gregor. There are a few things we don't know about George Galloway.
Did he condone Brexit..I think he did.
It is so difficult in these times to know who is speaking truth.
Yes, he was in support of Brexit. I heard it from his own lips. But I rather think standing up to oppose genocide ranks a bit higher on the moral standings than an issue like Brexit. And as Caitlin herself has said:if you find yourself agreeing with everything someone says there is something wrong with you!
and if you look at this european entity now (not only with regards to the genocides at hand), one can only admit that exiting from it was the correct choice (alas brexit didn't get rid of domestic virmin). europe became and is very anti-people and anti-worker and very pro-corporate.
george has been in the us senate
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dD48d-yjxc
I didn't know that. I don't know much about his domestic policies or views. Was he pro or against Brexit?
Pro-Brexit. He campaigned for it in 2016 and later supported Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party in the 2019 EU Parliament elections
I suppose he is concerned about the independent Scotland's economic viability if it separates. It's similar with the American Southern states who are relatively undeveloped and dependent on Government subsidies.
Thank you. Then I am NOT interested in him.
That's utter nonsense of a litmus test.
What is special about the EU? its a corrupt institution run by US stooges like Ursula von Leyen, for the benefit of the US oligarchs and their megacorps.
The EU is what allows the US to turn the entire Europe into one gigantic vassal state at the flick of a switch - circumventing any input, handbrakes, dissent, dialogue, or democratic control from 300 million different people in dozens of completely different countries:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/api/files/attachment/874309/EU-NATO%20declaration_EN.pdf
The withdrawal of Great Britain from the EU alliance aka "Brexit", is something that different people have different reasons for....but pinpointing that the EU is structurally and terminally corrupt and coopted, and was contributing to Britain's breakdown, is a 100% correct point by Galloway.
Of course the next step is to regain sanity and unity among the British masses. But Britain inside the EU had NO change whatsoever to right its ship, as it was getting the worst of BOTH the EU regime and its own domestic mis-leaders.
While BREXIT, does seem to have negatively affected Britain's economy, there were many current leaders who supported it. They are failing to take advantage of the situation because they are pawns of the City of London and the Financial criminals that exist there.
I encourage you to watch Galloway's MOATS youTube podcast. I find his criticism of the British government very refreshing.
Hello John.
I like George Galloway and yes he does speak extremely well on the rot of the English system.
As for Brexit it was a very stupid game they played (and they and they are paying for it now).
Europe might be nearly as bad but in the light of everything that happened to my family and many others it has been disgraceful.
The only reason the UK could leave Europe is because they knew USA would come to their aid.
As the US sinks it takes down the UK with it.
Correct
Thank you
Modi wants to turn India’s election into a Hindu-Muslim war,
Obviously no one has time for humanity, but then I've heard that Modi and Netanyahu are lovers, so go figure
Another despot Modi the most shameful leader and supported by the USA and UK.
That's how bad this whole suppression of speech has become; from my perspective that comment was deleted the moment that I posted it. But thank you very much for unintentionally notifying me. Yes, it's a whole world wide fascist movement amongst the wealthy to kill us all, now that they don't need us.
I believe anyone who supports Biden and/or genocide are evil. I really want the killing to stop, its heart breaking to think while Im in my warm bed at night sleeping, children are being blown to bits, it really makes me sick.
I felt that way during Obama’s Yemen genocide that was rarely discussed.
Exactly. It's been going on since the Pentagon decided they could bomb innocents without a thought for them in Afghanistan and Iraq.
IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE BOMBING OF DRESDEN, TOKYO, HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI, NORTH KOREA, NORTH VIETNAM, CAMBODIA. You must understand this. This is who and what we have been and continue to be.
‘Collateral Damage' or Bug Splat like some people call civilian deaths.
Or the wrong color?
The CIA were formed after WWII, it’s been going on since then. They’ve been lying to the American public to get them to support wars since then. They’ve been lying about civilian casualties, lying about who they bomb and why, lying about the (at least) 85 coups/regime changes they’ve made happen and the biggest lie of all : JFK’s assassination.
Well Sam. Yemen doesn't count for most people in the world.
They have been systematically been bombed by S. Arabia etc. They hold a very important part of the world and to my mind they have very little to live for and will keep on supporting Palestine until they are all wiped out.
USA talks about "PATRIOTS" and they have NO understanding of the word.
The USA made profits selling Saudis weapons to commit genocide in Yemen too.
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I have been watching AOC and during that period I had a feeling she would buckle under.
Everyone wants power and it's disgusting to me, she has become a sycophant and a hypocrite.
Why anyone bothers to vote beats the shit out of me.
I do not think AOC "buckled under". She just took off her mask. IMO, even her campaigning for Bernie was a self-serving way to contact voters.
Yeah Djean. I think you are right. Dislike being suckered.
We have been suckers for soo many years. On so many fronts.
Yes you have because you thought the American Dream would never come to an end.
It is ending now.
The supposed 'American Dream' only existed for a select few in the population. It was always a myth for the majority of Americans.
“That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
― George Carlin
George Carlin - The American Dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc
Dear Chang. Thank you for the link BUT as I keep repeating many people in the world are deaf and there are NO subtitles.
I am onto substack and u-tube about this.
HI Chang and thanks for your comment.
Thanks for the link.
I lived in the USA for 23yrs and I am sorry to 'burst your bubble' but most people I met were convinced that "democracy' was the way to go. Democracy is/was the American Dream. SO much so that they DENIED other countries (especially in S. America) to hold their own elections.
Then: They decided to take on the rest of the world.
I am a post colonial brat from the British hegemony and what I see is absolutely NO different from the great BRITISH Empire.
You are now in 'free fall!'
MOST countries are beginning to hate the US just as they did the British
She is a planted puppet with the goal of bringing young people onto the "progressive" side. The US political elite was getting a little bit too old for the twenty-somethings, so they needed a bait.
Exactly right my friend. I was fooled to the tune of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.............................
That was not the will of Landru!
Who's the gay Puerto Rican who represents one of the districts in New York. The Grey Zone was talking about him recently. I guess ADL and AIPAC figured out they could sell him in that district. Apparently he spends a lot of time in Israel.
"Why anyone bothers to vote beats the shit out of me."
If elections can be rigged and stolen then why bother to take part in a corrupt system?
I stopped voting after Obama’s huge betrayal of everything he ran on. Biden’s history was there for all to see, but shitlibs ignored it and said that they would push him left after he won. They couldn’t have done it, but of course they didn’t even try. Lots of hand wringing during the $15 minimum wage debate, but once it failed they moved on to the next promise, failed, moved on…. And now they aren’t even talking about doing it if voters only gave democrats the majority…again. How many decades have they ran on abortion rights even after having numerous chances to pass it.
Oops..a rant, but you hit a nerve.
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I am actually laughing at your comment which is very rare at the moment for me.
What really bothers me about the USA is that they ASSUME that the people agree with them without a vote.
I don't consider this a 'rant' it is truth.
Oh please please please go to www.gp.org and sign up to help Jill Stein's Green Party campaign!
Did right after Cornel wet the bed. Donated many times and now ballot petitions. See you out there : )
Yes, Cornel is a bit of an old fogy to say the least, not impressive and he screwed over the Green Party wasting lots of their scarce time and money because he couldn't handle following their commonsense rules. Now, he's out on his own and will just blow away in the wind.
Yes, a kind man, good heart with ZERO political skills. When Cornel announced I donated and signed up to volunteer. Not a word still to this day. The day Jill Stein announced, donation and they sent an email with when training started. Please go the site and see if she is not yet on your state ballot. She is on 21 states now. It takes so little time to get five signatures : )
Please share this. Working for Bernie was the same training, must be a registered voter, not have signed another petition for ballot, still living in their registration. Fascism has come face to face with us. https://www.jillstein2024ballotaccess.com/
I signed up to volunteer with Jill last week and have donated $500. I am tweeting Jill's name whenever I have time in the day @karenthedamned on X/Twitter. First time I have felt any hope since way before October 7.
Was gonna,changed my mind in time
The day I switched when Jill announced. I asked one of the campaign staff if Jill would consider Cornel as a VP. She told me they were already putting together a discussion.
So who knows : )
Is the Green Party in the States actually green? Could this be great news for the environment too?
YES! Jill Stein's motto is Planet, People, Peace (not necessarily in that order). She is one amazing leader! Go to www.gp.org and be happy!
The "Green New Deal" originated in 2010 with the Green Party US. The Dems stole it later and diluted it and then dropped it. (Dems love stealing other party's ideas to attract voters, then of course they'll drop them because their corporate donors don't care about or want anything to do with the environment.)
Even on the Grayzone AOC's apparent support for the Green New Deal (really dirty words in health freedom) is used as an indication that AOC is some sort of evil left wing WEF.
Very clever propaganda from the corporates; polarising even a hint of green as an evil control agenda.
It's interesting to see, now that everyone in alternative media is saying vote Green or Independent, how Green politicians, if not perhaps green policies, are being rehabilitated.
Thank you. Yes, Labour in the UK has also dropped any Green investment 'crap'. And the GND has now become just the Green Deal in the EU and is a total farce.
I don't think anyone with integrity, compassion or concern for equality or the environment will be allowed to be elected in the West because the (silicon valley, rentier, fossil fuel and animal/industrial ag) corporate donors are in charge of politics.
With the seizing of Russian assets by the EU, as requested, which is accelerating the new Cold war, even the US corporate donors are going to soon be feeling the pinch and getting a taste of their own medicine. The West will be further and further isolated from the majority. Even US financier families themselves might have to go back to the land!
Go help Jill!!!
Not American but I would.
Do we get the government we deserve, or deserve the government we get? We might just have to vote one way or another to influence the outcome…. Ok I know that electoral systems are weighted bizarrely and that we are told not to waste a vote, but we have to make a concerted effort to change the f***ing system.
The whole empire needs to be destroyed
Agreed.
Been saying for a long time
USA first.
Republicans and Democrats are the same party, except one has better liars. I almost prefer overt assholes to covert ones.
I always support the nonliars.
Except I hate their views
"Opposing The Gaza Genocide While Supporting Biden Is A Dishonest, Nonsensical Position>
Agreed, but supporting anyone in the U.S. government is nonsensical, the Deep State is in control and means to stay there.
Oh yuck. Who operates The Deep State ?
"Who operates The Deep State ?"
The unelected bureaucrats of the three-letter acronyms of the U.S. government, with support or acquiescence from minions of the billionaire class and most members of the three branches of government: the executive, legislative, and judicial.
Exactly right. The idea that a country $30++trillion in debt is FREE & ELECTS REPRESENTIVES is nonsensical. Biggest fraud ever perpetuated among the public. We are ran and ruled by central bankers, the MIC, and all their affiliates. Quite literally the FASCISM no one sees or talks about. Lol. It's so bizarre. We're an open air prison of mentally and physically poisoned debt slaves. When will the ppl realize we won't be voting our way out of this? These politicians/potus have no power- they are just characters for the masses to fight over. No one gets to DC who can't be blackmailed- this is where the intelligence agencies come in. The entire "system" is weaponized against the ppl and designed to keep us financially enslaved. Our ppl perish as our money is taken to support wars and sent to foreign countries for endless various reasons/ventures.
The CIA and NSA are not “bureaucrats”. They are a wing of the Pentagon.
Its military government in disguise as “democracy”.
"The CIA and NSA are not “bureaucrats”. They are a wing of the Pentagon."
I used the term bureaucrats to describe the many people who have careers in government agencies, regardless of who is elected. The CIA and NSA are full of bureaucrats, like the Pentagon and all other federal agencies. The CIA, NSA, FBI, and DOJ are the muscle, so to speak, while the DOD and defense contractors are the money-laundering side of the Deep State.
I fail to see the 'distinction' you present.
“Bureaucrats” sounds like harmless suits. These are specialists in murder, armed insurrection, spying and disinformation. That’s who is in charge of the U.S. government.
"Once you’ve acknowledged that Biden is guilty of doing pretty much the worst thing any state leader could possibly do, you’ve crossed a threshold. "
Cue up "but you gotta vote Biden because pronouns" or something equally asinine.
“Cue up "but you gotta vote Biden because pronouns" or something equally asinine.”
Voting blue for the foreseeable future is about a lot more than pronouns. The evil is more inane than right wing conspiracy theories about “the Deep State”, and more tangible than pedophiles operating out of pizza restaurants. Arguing that Trump is less culpable, or discouraging the electorate from voting at all are reckless acts to say the least. The US got itself into this mess, at least in part, because of complacency. In hindsight, setting up an experimental democracy while making voting within it voluntary was asking for trouble. Some of the worst aspects of human nature - for example, greed - were enabled to flourish with little accountability.
Good thing that Team D never ever push wackadoodle conspiracy theories.
BTW, the "Deep State" is a well-known term used in political science long before Trump.
Well, yes, but Trump says the deep state includes the entire civil service and the entire ‘administrative state.’ And it only includes the intelligence agencies to the extent that they worked to undermine Trump with their outrageous Russiagate narratives. The administrative state is scandalous, of course, because the whole thing has been captured by the mammoth institutions it was created to regulate and no longer means anything anyway. That is not the position of the GOP. It wants to do away with even the POSSIBILITY of putting any governance at all upon the pillaging corporations. All based upon the ‘original intent’ of our ‘sacred constitution’, which was drawn up in secret. Madison’s notes didn’t even become public until 1840.
Just a quibble, though. You cannot vote for genocidaires. Period. The end. No way, no how. And, if Biden turns out for any reason not to be the Democrat nominee, whoever takes his place will be drenched in blood no matter what he or she starts saying when he or she becomes the nominee. The Republicans and Democrats are full supporters of genocide and permanent war. One cannot vote for any of them without drenching oneself in blood.
I doubt that Trump has a rigorous definition of any word or term, except perhaps "fuck you, pay me".
🤣🤣🤣 Very true. Reference was to the 2025 version of the contract on America of the Heritage Foundation or whoever that the Trumpers and Trump himself have apparently jumped on board with. Should have made that clear.
Thanks for making me laugh!
lol
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one side has guns pointed
one side does not
one side has jet fighters
one side does not
one side has armored tanks
one side does not
one side has big bombs from US
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one side targets kid’s legs
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one side bulldozes homes
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one side has samson option
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I saw AOC interviewed on Zeteo and was flummoxed by her criticism of the carnage happening in Gaza, while being supportive of Biden. Talk out of both sides of your mouth much? She is just another politician who will twist anything any which way to get herself elected.
I think that's what helps her talk out of both sides of her mouth, blood on her lips rather than on her hands like Genocide Joe.
Fast learning cuve. She did it. Remember when she was ridiculed in beginning for being young and naive
guess she decided to be young and corrupt instead. and potentially re-elected. An example how great our voting system is
No excuses,gaza is the line but, i have heard say, “ if i compromise a little,because elected know, it will be about compromise, i can at least do a little good” I highly recommend this old movie, Distinguished Gentlemen. Even tho done years ago,as relevant now.
Only this situation needs a lot of good. Real guts. No red lips smiling and talking progressive out of one side while supporting fascist out of the other side.
Like hens teeth in the beltway but i think there are a few. Forgot the guy in texas.
Smiley, huggy-poo JB and AOC. Just the perfect stimulus to trigger reverse peristalsis of my breakfast. Hypocrisy is too mild a descriptor. Sweet and dandy. The perfect pander. Quintessence of the USA = prevarication to the fabulist extreme. You [we] suck, America, as do all your morbid decomposing appendages — Israel, NATO, any other flaming a-holes who wish to be members of this decrepit excuse for biological organization.
For Biden, one could also substitute Trump, or RFK Jr. Maybe consider Jill Stein (who just got arrested for participating in a pro-Palestinian protest!) and the Green Party.
I still think Bobby is better and has a real chance to appeal to most of the principled voters. No one likes his Jewish friends but considering what they did to his relatives it still may be our only good option for now. If he gets in we can determine our next cleanup moves then.
Right. This should be the end of keeping voters on the Democratic Party rez with "Lesser-of-Two-Evils" arguments. Because what's more evil than genocide? Dem stalwarts will attempt to argue that "Oh, the Orange Man will genocide harder than Genocide Joe." But the Orange Man isn't the one who is actually engineering this genocide.
Jill Stein, the only one on ballots who will stop the Genocide. I would like to see several Trillion in reparations to Palestine from our former friends israel. Wait, I don't think israel will exist much longer with GDP already down 26%.
We can work towards that goal.
Careerism......AOC, Sanders and all of the rest of the hypocrites are infected with it.
It turns out basing an entire society on Greed and the almighty Profit Motive - as the bible for living a good life - is not such a great idea.
This is not much different than people,m who complain about what the state does but remain faithful to it anyway
It defies logic
Regardless, AOC is a looney bin and Biden is a dementia patient.
I oppose the 'unfolding genocide' in Gaza, to use AOC's term. And I'm urging everyone to vote Dem against fascism in November. As Sartre argued in his play, we are all given only choices where we end up with 'dirty hands.' If the choice is to vote for a genocide enabler vs a genocide expander and democracy crusher on the home front, do what needs to be done. Clean hands is not an option at this conjuncture.
However you rationalize supporting evil.
The true evil is the deep state which is running the show. Biden, Obama, Trump are mere mouthpieces for this evil.
The point is you get 'dirty hands' whatever you choose, and not chosing is also a choice, and you still get dirty hands. We are not affirming moral choices in an evil world. We want to stop a fascist takeover in November. You can lend a hand, or not. But if he wins, you'll have to explain to your grandchildren what you did, or didn't do, to stop him.
The fascists have already taken over. They just have different letters after their names. That being said, I will never ever vote for a Democrat again. I was a lifelong Dem. No more. Although I sincerely doubt my vote matters.
Right there with you friend. I will be voting Jill Stein and I don't care how many times I hear but Trump. I donated to Cornel and then he wet the bed now on 3 ballots. Jill on 21 all the states with electoral votes. This race with 3 Genocide providers could make this race winnable with 34%. I never in my life thought this would or could happen.
It does matter. Do you want to live in a country where all voting rights are denied? I gained my view of their importance in Mississippi n the 1960s. The gains made in that time mattered, and still do.
"It does matter." - indeed it does. If you vote for somebody you give them your approval and you legitimize the system.
Your ballot doesn't come with a rider where you'd explain you really voted against the other guy, does it? And even if it did, would your guy care?
And yet Biden is already pushing for fascism. It's already here.
And lay off the vote shaming.
I cannot imagine being shamed by anything a Vote Blue shill has to say. It is all just campaign rhetoric, looks the same every four years. We are likely minutes away from being told that this election is the most important election of our lifetime.
hahaha, I was thinking that as I read your post hahahhaha.
Biden pushing for fascism here. By advocating more rights of women, and defending voting rights against undue restrictions? Fascism is already here? I'm one of the one million Trump wants to put in a detention camp on day one. Under Biden, I can post away.
You may have been hoodwinked.
Have you not seen the calls for censorship, to name but one? And you are trying to change the subject.
Censorship? Do you mean his efforts to have social media urge people to get their vaccinations, and not simply spread fake news about why we shouldn't do so? In my youth, we all got the polo vaccine, and it worked well. Nice try, no cigar.
Good grief. Biden has had numerous chances to pass abortion rights, but he hasn’t even tried.
Obama said that his first priority was to codify abortion, but when asked when he was going to do it he said that it wasn’t a priority. At least educate yourself on what candidates actually believe.
Biden also said he was ending forever wars and yet he’s pushing the Ukraine war and planning for war with China and possibly North Korea.
You mean like, having the u.s. Justice Dept. stand before the Supreme court arguing protests do not have 1st. amendment rights. Yes, they did that. Vote NO on Genocide Joe! Jill Stein for Peace.
The two-party system is not a choice - it's a scam. You lie when you claim it's an actual choice or the electoral system is legitimate. You know as well as everyone here it isn't. So get off your high horse as if you are doing something virtuous by participating in what is an obvious scam. You're just another sucker who has fallen for the lesser of two evils bullshit. There is nothing more evil then genocide - and if you vote for a party that supports genocide, you've chosen to become complicit in that genocide with your vote. The only moral choice here is not to participate in supporting a political party responsible for a genocide. No one is FORCING you to vote for the duopoly. You're just making up bogus rationalizations - which amount to juvenile tribalism for a corrupt party, and an illegitimate electoral process. You pretend voting for the Democratic party is all you can do. No it isn't all you can do. No one is putting a gun to your head here.
Of course. One corporate imperialist muppet versus another corporate imperialist muppet.
How anyone can consider that a legitimate choice - is mind boggling.
But it's our fault for not falling in line and obediently voting for the Genocidal Blue Turd.
Not Team D's fault for nominating a Genocidal Blue Turd and insisting that we are morally obligated to vote for same.
Carl Davidson. This is NOT an election. It is a sham run by money.
Why not vote for a 3rd party instead. Jill Stein
You can safely vote for Stein in certain solid Blue states, if you like. There such votes are harmless re Trump.
So good that we have your permission to vote our conscience.
Carl. Once again this is a sham election. IF Trump doesn't win his followers will be up in arms.
If Trump wins the Dems will be up in arms.
Look forward to civil war!
Stein? Because she's backed by thee GOP, and a vote for her helps to elect Trump. If you want multiple parties, as I do, you get IRV (instant runoff) and proportional rep passed, also with universal registration at birth, just like SS.
Wow, yes clueless, voting for lesser Genocide is voting for Genocide. My you hear the screams of Palestinian people as your head hits the pillow each night.
do you already have an explanation to give to your grandchildren for the genocide you condone today? please share. you can not stop a fascist takeover. it already happened.
I don't 'condone' it, I protest it every week at our local courthouse. I meet with my congress people urging them to stand with those calling for a ceasefire, and to demand the same of Biden. I support Palestine's self-determination and demand a cut off of funds to Israel. But I also know how to survey the terrain, assess voters and see what's rising among the Trumpers. I know it has to be stopped in November, otherwise everything is worse, here and abroad, is much worse. And thinking fascism is already here only means you have no idea what it is, or how to fight it.
"And thinking fascism is already here only means you have no idea what it is" - so you are the authority on the definition of fascism. How come it's the first time I'm hearing of you? Where have you been hiding?
Your point is a classic non-sequitor. I maded no claim to be any such 'authority,' but I have studied and written about it's rise in the U.S. for at least two decades now. Google around and you can find them. Don't worry about 'definitions' so much, just study both Team Biden then Trump and his crew, and what they are promising to do. I would believe Trump's threats by seeing the forces they are assembling.
Deep state this and imperialist that. If they think there is no difference between Trump and Biden they aren’t watching. I believe the lunatic Cristian right wants Trump as president because they think he’ll start a nuclear war.
There is no difference. Same wars for profit. Same genocide. Same inequality.
If you want to trot out “abortion” , it’s Obama who sat for 8 years and let the GOP stockpile open seats in federal and supreme courts. Then Trump fills the seats with extremist judges. Then the Dems wring their hands.
Two-team con job.
i think Biden is more likely to start a nuclear war. But Trump is no slouch in this nuclear war sweepstakes. don't vote for either one.
Speaking of evil, the sum total of any optimism I have for the future of the human enterprise generally is frequently reduced to a saying I once heard or read somewhere: Evil is always winning, but never wins; good is always losing, but never loses.
(I don't know the source. Anybody know?)
This is a satire, right? Who can keep up.
It is Vote For The Blue No Matter Who season. Ugh.
Yes, and you 'ugh' makes my point. Dirty Hands all around. But what do you want to get them dirty FOR?
Not for warmongering Biden. Period. HIS hands are running with blood and dirt.
Are we at the "A vote for anyone else but Biden is a vote for Trump" yet? That, my dear, is literally trying to subvert peoples' votes.
I have. Proffessor Bidenopolous is a NeoCon, as an unconsenquential Senator, a habitual liar, he voted for ever war put up for vote. He is an angry warlord wannabe who is facilitating the deadliest war in Europe since the WW2 and the most efficient killing of the civilians since the WW2.
I wish it were satire. But it's a clear and present danger. Get out of your silo and survey the entire terrain.
The entire terrain is littered and befouled with Biden's long years of lying and corruption. And he is proud of that that. Hard pass.
And more lesser evil voting. No thanks. How do you quantify evil?
"And I'm urging everyone to vote Dem against fascism in November"
Fascism is already here and it has been for a long time. Bush nullified most of the construction and Obama rescinded habeas corpus. Biden said fck you to the 1st and 4th amendments. Also look up inverted totalitarianism.
Congress votes on the bills that lobbyists write after being told what to get passed from the donors of both parties.
You’re openly supporting genocide because of propaganda? Who was genocided during Trump’s term? Can democracy be more openly attacked than by helping an ally murder an entire demographic? Are you assholes going to be bombing Nashville in retaliation for J6 if we keep you on??
Do you not remember just a week ago, Jared Kushner talked about leveling Gaza and building resort hotels. YES HE SAID THAT ON CAMERA.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev
Lame, but that doesn’t change THIS president doing the same thing.
Why is all current morality measured by Trump and company??
Solution! You can volunteer and/or donate to the Green Party at gp.org! I voted for Jill Stein in the CA primary and signed up to volunteer. I also donated $250, which is exorbitant for me.
"we are all given only choices where we end up with 'dirty hands.'" - how so? What about abstaining, isn't that a choice? How are you responsible for the corrupt system and who is forcing you to legitimize it by participating?
Abstaining is indeed a choice. But who benefits? If Trump wins and begins his fascist 'project 25', will you tell your children, 'I abstained?'
In your case, I guess, you'll tell your children "I voted for genocide". And ongoing fascism etc - don't pretend it's not already here.
It's "for" and your participation that matters, not "against". If you participate, you are responsible for that which your vote gave legitimacy to. No escape, and no excuse.
It's not already here, but it's waiting in the wings. Would you rather fight against Biden's Zionism and his concesions to labor and the Black vote? Or would you rather fight under Trump's Project 2025 where most of us will be underground or in his detetion camps? Make up your mind. You don't get 'community chest' or 'get out of jail free.' Fight and defeat the fascist danger. It was in the White House, but its now seeking to return, on steriods.
"Make up your mind." - this false choice is of your own invention. Enjoy, but leave people capable of independent thinking alone.
There are at least two forum characters with your Something Horrible 2025™ obsession and the topic has been discussed over and over. Join them in your group trolling.
We should not worry about Project 2025? Please go through it, point by point, and make your case. I'd love to see it.
the underground thing is better, clearer, imo. be a little more hamas and less fatah.