To be honest, that was true for Genocide Joe and NutanYahoo as well. Trump has now earned the name Genocide Trump. The name should never be said or written now without Genocide in front.
Unlike you--and at this point, at least six others--I'm waiting to hear a bit more from Trump about what he offers the Gazans and their response before calling for him to swing from the gallows with the Netanyahu regime and assorted enablers from the last US administration.
Change a few select words and by golly, you'd be reading about what the United States of America did to the indigenous people of the New World. This' our history which has gotten us to this place. Hey folks, wake-up and realize that we are the masters of disaster and nothing is going to change that. Hell, the Zionists are mere amateurs in ethnic cleansing, bush league at best. In 'Not A Nation of Immigrants: Settler Colonialism, White Supremacy, And A History of Erasure and Exclusion" author Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz gives the number of 90 million dead "Indians" as the singer sang "...but ain't that just America..." Again, Masters of Disaster!
Yes. That's what I was going to point out: this applies equally to the places that became the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand--the only difference is that the poor Israelis were forced to do this when everyone is looking, including, in the current phase, when people all over the world can see live imagery of atrocities against children. When the descendants of those who committed similar atrocities in the English-speaking settler states, and more recent immigrants, are sufficiently removed from the crimes to disavow them and proclaim such things immoral and illegal. Given that, it must take really relentless propaganda to get Israelis into such a mindset. I suspect a key part is that those who remain normal, get the hell out of Israel.
All of the Israelis who I have met that were not utterly detestable people had emigrated to other countries because they couldn't handle their native culture.
I think that's how it got to be 97%. Everybody that couldn't buy into that horrible racist culture got the fuck out--for like three generations. Leaving the arrogant, racist, entitled, blindered people behind.
Damned right, Mary. Mind you, here in 'Straya, anyone who thinks an apology and constitutional recognition of First Nations people are morally required are accused of being believers in 'black armband History' or simply 'woke', an argument which worked very well in our recent referendum. So we certainly have our share of racist, entitled, blinkered people.
Is it that high? And note that anyone doing a survey, or an informal survey in Israel today would not see that--because those are the people who are not there to answer. Thus Israel has been distilled down to the Nazis...and the oppressed refugees in their own land.
Mark Oglesby, I was just thinking on the same lines! But taking it a bit further to the whole world of yesterday - the colonial era. The European powers plundered, raped, exploited, killed the natives ,stole the land, occupied and settled it and fought among themselves for prime land and resources. Enslaved human beings was one resource.They literally drew lines in the sand of the Middle East, redrawing the maps.
The neocolonialist heading the US empire, following in the best traditions of the old, blithely talks about ( in his infantile vocabulary) of redrawing the maps once again.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so tragic to see a convicted felon and a fugitive war criminal holding the world in thrall.
At least white male land-owning/slave-owning Americans, that is. Native Americans didn't have any of these rights until the 20th century--and arguably we don't have the full range of them yet.
Every time you find an excuse to separate Jews from Israel. Don’t you get it yet? By making this separation, Israel will continue to go unpunished. I don’t care right now who is right or wrong; what matters to me is stopping the killing of Palestinian children. To achieve that, Jews must be held accountable as Jews and not just as Zionists. Every Israeli is a Jew, and I don’t care about the feelings of a small minority of Jews—that oppose “Israel”—if this will stop Israel. Wake up!
When you’re brainwashed, you respond without even understanding. Let me tell you something, because I know the level of control is so high that you can’t even try to understand or watch the video I posted. My grandparents, my parents, myself, and younger generations—we all call them Jews, because there’s a reality you can’t hide: every single Israeli is a Jew. Now, either you try to understand that, or spare me your empty clichés and broad statements.
Maybe all the Israelis are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelis, or Zionists. If you blame all Jews for what Israel does, that IS antisemitism. Which only gives ammunition to the sniveling cowards in North America and Europe who are excusing and enabling this atrocity--and trying to silence objections as "antisemitic hate speech."
Load of BS. If any Muslim (even by name only) in the world on any day does anything slightly inappropriate (such as slap his child), you can be assured that in the western press there will be thousands of hate-filled articles and opinions on how Islam is evil violent religion. Hundreds of new Hollywood movies depicting ALL Muslims as terrorists will be made. There is no problem in the west vilifying ALL 1.7 billion Muslims ALL the time. I guess some people have more rights than the other in the "enlightened civilized democratic" western world. Jews are not special in any way and do not have more rights than the others. Most of their "victimhood" is based on lies and endless propaganda (holocaust industry). The unarmed Palestinian civilian victims of genocide are accused of terrorism while heavily armed jewish killers are called "victims". To what low point has humanity sunk. This will not end up well for ALL humans.
Thia is all true--islamaphobia is rampant in the western world and rarely punished while criticism of Israel is punished by equating it with antisemitism.
The whole term "Islamophobia" is ill defined. Like Arachnophobia. On purpose I would say. Having phobia or fear gives humans justification to respond. It is normal to respond physically and even violently to something that is a threat or phobia. So in fact being Islamophobic may justify and encourage more Anti-Muslim and Anti-Islam hate and violence.
But the vast majority of Jews supports Israel and Zionism. By playing the antisemitism blame-game you are sparing a whole group of inhumane psychopaths of accountability for the crimes and atrocities they are commiting. And thanks to that they will continue their atrocities and live in the illusion of being a superior race, that needs to be protected for whatever happens by the world. The point you try to reach is nonsense
Okay, my mother was a Jew--she became Christian but later became Islamaphobic under the influence of her Zionist brother. But since I'm half Jewish, therefore I'm a Jew--doesn't matter that I'm anti-Zionist, speaking against this genocide constantly, or that I live in West Virginia--because I'm a Jew, and the evil is in the BLOOD, right? Can you not see that this is Nazi ideology? The same Nazi ideology that has taken over Israel, seeing Palestinians as subhuman because they interfere with the Chosen People--Master Race--and their lebensraum? The idea that any people, any ethnicity, is superior or inferior, that one race is entitled to land and privileges and another entitled to death, is the essence of Naziism. You don't have to speak German to be a Nazi. Your targets don't have to be Jews. Tell me this--since you think all Jews are inherently evil, would it have been better is Hitler had completed his genocide?
First, I have nowhere expresses any vision of genociding or extinguishing any people. This comes from your phantasy. And, obviously you believe you are Jewish because your mom is Jewish, even though she left the religion at some point. So Judaism is in your blood? Is it genetic? Its you that claim that and yes, that's also what the Nazi ideology thought. In my opinion, religion has nothing to do with race, it doesn't stick in our genes or blood and can be left behind. So, if a religion obviously is the written and ideological base for a genocidal, racist, supremacist community, maybe you should rather think of leaving that half- part of you that is part of this community rather than victimizing yourself under the claim of antisemitism. And please, don't lecture me on Nazi ideology. I know enough about it to know that what the Jews are commiting now on the Palestinian is nothing short in what the Nazis did to the victims of the Holocaust (yes, it wasn't only Jews that were killed), or what the Germans did to the Herero. Because also, Jews don't have a superior right on the victim-role
Jewishness is both a religion and an ethnic group. It's not a universalizing religion--essentially there are no people who are Jews by religion but not Jewish by ethnicity. But there are a lot, perhaps most Jews who are not religious. Including my mother's family, who were fiercely atheistic. I say I'm a Jew because by Jewish law I am--t goes by the mother, not the father. I don't believe you can say anything about any ethnic group other than a few minor physical things--I believe the person who said all the many Israelis he met were arrogant pricks, but it's not because they were of Jewish ethnicity--it's because they were raised in Israel. Yes, what the Jews are doing in Palestine is exactly analogous to what the Nazis did in the 1930s and 1940s.
Stop pretending to be a victim. Stop using Israël arguments to keep killing the Palestinians. Stop acting like a supremacist while seeking sympathy as if you’re the victim. Don’t talk about antisemitism—just shut up and stop playing the victim. The majority of Jews support Israel. You can’t hide this truth. Dont lecture us don’t fucking lecture the Palestinians what to call the fucking Jews that kill and steal our land for 80 years . Dont !!!!
When did i say I was a victim? When did I say anything negative about Palestinians? What Israeli argument did I use to justify their filthy campaign of extermination? And--do you have evidence that a majority of Jews OUTSIDE ISRAEL support this genocide?
Apparently you yourself are Palestinian--so your antisemitism is understandable. Nonetheless, I must and will call out REAL antisemitism, as opposed to the bullshit the Zionists are pushing where criticism of Israel is antisemitism.
“But the vast majority of Jews supports Israel and Zionism”
Do you have evidence for this claim? There are more Jews living outside of Israel than in Israel. Do you have evidence that they support Zionism? And even if that statement were true, there are many prominent Jewish figures in the anti-Zionist movement, and every anti-Zionist action I’ve seen has had had plenty of Jews. Do you really want to alienate these allies by stereotyping Jews as the eve enemy? It makes neither moral nor strategic sense. It makes as much sense as wiping out Palestinians “because Hamas.”
You see, when you like them, you call them Jews. Maybe it’s hard to see that after all these decades of brainwashing.
These two Jews have enjoyed the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians for eight decades. They kept their Israeli nationality and had no problem being Zionists. If you understand the basic meaning of Zionism—which is giving the right to Palestinian land to any Jew in the world—you’ll see that both groups “pro Palestinian” and not were fine with it and lived peacefully in Israel.
First of all I never said that I want to wipe out anyone. Secondly, we know that there is some Jews in the anti-zionist movement, which doesn't make my claim wrong. There are polls that show that the majority of Jews in for example the US or Britain support Israel, as well as their genocide. In short, what I want to say, Judaism obviously has a problem as its majority supports a supremacist ideology, genocide on the Palestinian people and are supportive of a sick apartheid state. That's not a stereotype but a fact. And shouting "Antisemit" on anyone that criticize the Jewish community for this obvious and unaddressed issue without rather addressing the theological and ideological root problem in the Jewish community, which hence is responsible for the atrocities, doesn't lead anywhere. I have seen very little of the "anti-zionist" Jews doing that so far.
The Jews who were in Nazi concentration camps were called Jews. But when they boarded boats and came to Palestine to kill Palestinians, they became Zionists. Spare me this BS!
I don’t live in Palestine—aha, do you know what shame means ? I don’t thé I so, maybe because European Jews came and ethnically cleansed my grandparents, that’s why. I can make a post about your fake activism. You mock Palestinians because European Jews expelled them from their homes, but you’re not even worthy. Just a dumb person who compares the occupied with the occupiers. Seriously, go fuck yourselves. Shame on you. Listen to what he says and learn, we call them Jews in Palestine, because every F Israeli is a Jew
Do you see how brainwashed you are? For a century, European Jews and other Jews have been killing Palestinians, stealing their land and resources, using the Torah script to dehumanize Palestinians like the Amalek. And yet, you’re telling me Palestinians shouldn’t hate Jews? Are you out of your mind?
It’s your meaningless attempt to separate Jews from Israel that upholds this supremacist view that Jews are untouchable. Stop fucking around and erase the decades of brainwashing. Watch the video and start seeing Palestinians as humans.
Do you not understand the irony of your position? Your argument is that “some Jews have committed and continue to commit awful atrocities, therefore we should hate Jews.”
This same argument can be (and is) applied to any group of people. This is the very same logic used by Israel/zionists to attack and hate Palestinians. Any time you see a person as “that group” (Jewish, Palestinian, white, black, Catholic, etc.), imposing upon them your judgement of the character of “that group”, you are dehumanizing them, and are guilty of the crime against which you are supposedly fighting against. Are you against racism and genocide? Or are you just against racism and genocide directed against your group? One is the attitude that can change the world. The other is attitude that ensures the atrocities continue forever.
Do you understand how brainwashed you are? Why did we call them Jews when they were victims in concentration camps, but refuse to call them Jews now when they are committing genocide? The percentage of Jews who support Israel today is much higher than the percentage of Jews who were victims in those camps. So why this contradiction?
How will you hold Israel accountable if you refuse to acknowledge it as a Jewish state — which it openly claims to be? How long will you continue to favor the narrative of Jewish victimhood over the oppression faced by Africans, Indians, and all other nations? Spreading hate? Really? On Palestinian spread hatred because they talk about their occupier, Just fuck off.
If the Chinese came and occupied Palestine, I would hate them and call them Chinese, not communists.
What's you problem dude? I wasn't communicating with YOU. Go take your venom and hatred somewhere else - you're not helping the Palestinians with your attitude, you're hurting their cause.
Most of them don't believe in god. Ben-Gurion was a Buddhist.
You must find a new name, like nephalim? The evil ones are the Talmudic type. The moderate ones are the godless libtards, and the reformed ones are the once a year visitor to the synagogue of Satan. All of them will gang up on anyone who offend them, more like Muslims do. So, here is the real truth both sides are militantly obsessed with their religious identifications. In Islam, it is like a mafia gang? If you leave the club, they will KILL you.
Again, we must have conscious and never allow ethnic cleansing or land grab a la Trump. But, both sides must look themselves in the mirror, and must have reformers for leaderships.
Your equation is wrong! While every Israeli might be Jew (which I doubt, because 20% are Palestinians), not every Jew is Israeli. For instance, I am a Transylvanian Jew, who never set foot in Israel, and never intend to. Zionism is pure Naziism!
These two questions are at the heart of the "Israeli" fraud.
The problem TODAY (and in the last 250 years or so, as well) is that these questions - or maybe more accurately - these concepts - lost their clear definition. These concepts WERE very clear in the past but today they are without a clear definition. This vagueness is capitalized by the criminal mafia who wants to dominate the world by any means.
If we understand that the CLEAR version of these concepts belongs ONLY to history (and not the present day) things begin to become clearer.
Zionism is a national movement of a nation that lost its historic identity. All that remains is the mere acknowledgment that the Jews WERE a people (a nation with a clear definition) but today this acknowledgement can't be satisfied from INTERNAL aspects to the Jewish way of life. So in order to feel national Jew you do not ask: who am I? or who we are?
Instead of looking inward you look back at history and use past suffering to receive compensation (in any way: money, land, state). Being a Jew is therefore running amok with few hefty 'coupons' in your hands, and demanding the world will pay you back. This is the explanation to most of the Zionistic organizations that operate in the world today. This is what they do. Blackmail.
So, your feeling that this is an entirely JEWISH operation that cannot be separated Israel from Jews is correct.
That said in my opinion it is 100% Jewish in its TACTICS and in the fact that Jews genuinely feel that by doing this they express their Jewishness, BUT it has nothing to do with the historic religion of Judaism. So Jewishness became not a national (internal) real content but a psychological set of symptoms that has very little indeed with historic Jewish way of life (the religion).
This ability to act criminally (and psychotically) while hiding behind the notion of a historic people - is what has given political Zionism its potency, and this is why the empire sought to adopt it as some kind of a shield.
Zionism, therefore, proved to be a marvellous means to excuse any act of the empire while shutting up any criticism - a great tool to bulldoze and push a side all that is in empire’s way.
Unfortunately, so it seems, 97% of Jews bought into this (sick) identity. Like a cult.
It is my opinion that this was foisted on the Jews and the vast majority of them could not resist the prizes that this arrangement gave them. The shame and the internal destruction of the “Jewish People” did not matter to the one bit because the historic Jewish people does not exist anymore. As I was trying to explain in the beginning it only belongs to history and not the present day.
Hello Laith, don't know if you'll see this but here's a point of view I'd love to hear your thoughts about.
For Palestinians to hate Jews in general isn’t irrational. I wouldn’t moralize about it, as some of your opponents here do.
But I’m afraid that factually and strategically, it is not a very reasonable perspective. Let me explain why I think so.
Political Zionism has since the onset had as a main objective to equate itself with Judaism and associate itself with the world’s jewry. In this ambition, it hasn’t stopped short of lies, bribes, brainwashing or even Nazi collaboration. It has indeed been rather successful, not least in enrolling Jews across the world to its cause. But since the same onset it has also had Jewish opponents, an opposition that lost momentum after the Holocaust but has gradually expanded as the nature of Zionism has become increasingly apparent for everyone to see.
This opposition poses a very important threat to Zionism, because by its very existence it undermines both the tenets of Zionism, and one of its most lethal and versatile weapons: the anti-semitism charge. Equating Zionism with jewishness has served the two-fold interest of recruiting Jews internationally (an influential group) to back its interests AND to disarm opposition by naming it anti-semitism. Anti-zionist jews seriously destabilize this whole enterprise at the core of the Zionist agenda. Yes, anti-zionist Jews are a minority but they are not that few. The reason we don’t see them a whole lot doesn’t only have to do with their numbers, but with the interests they are confronting.
While I do understand the instinct to claim that Jews or Judaism is the problem, rather than Zionism I think its counter-productive, for several reasons. Not only is it difficult to rationalize since you will find both Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews ranging from orthodox to atheist, as well as from caucasian to African. So it’s kind of difficult to pinpoint what it would boil down to. Not saying there couldn’t be a culture of supremacy passed down culturally for generations which may play in, but as an authoritative explanation it’s not that convincing. After all, Jews might have had a bad rep for long but at least weren’t known for ethnical cleansing before the advent of Zionism.
But moreover, since the argument is both quite weak and explictly anti-jewish it isn’t likely to convince large parts of the international Palestine solidarity movement, a movement that currently has massive momentum. Trying to establish this perspective in the movement would most likely harm it and cause it to lose both support and membership. It would surely disrupt the alliance with those anti-zionist jews that are currently one of Israel’s main annoyances.
It seems Hmas is quite aware of this outlook and realize that their enemy are Zionists irrespective of ethnicity, rather than say an anti-zionist German Jew getting arrested for anti-semitism and terrorism when speaking out for Palestine, while their Christian Democrat government is busy supplying Israel with the arms to fuel their genocide. The Hmas charter nowadays is void of hostility towards Jews in general.
I don’t know if you read the last paragraph of the article but it stresses that any population on the oppressive end of a colonial apartheid system will degenerate morally. The percentage of white Europeans in the US that opposed slavery in the 18th or 19th century was definitely very low. The same with white South Africans opposing apartheid. Did it have anything to do with whiteness? Probably, as a culture. Can it be remedied? There are signs that it can and we must hope that it can, because the project of trying to eradicate an entire ethnic group has never led to anything but catastrophe in the history of humankind. Gaza is but the latest example of that.
I read up to this point: “For Palestinians to hate Jews in general isn’t irrational. I wouldn’t moralize about it, as some of your opponents here do.”
I won’t continue reading, simply because Palestinians are equal humans with the ability to think for themselves. I won’t accept by Jews ethnically cleansing Palestinians and then having the rest, along with their followers, lecture us about love and hate.
By the way, I’ll be writing an article about how you all respond like bots—programmed to hear only certain things—and then, the moment a Palestinian speaks their mind, you all jump in to lecture them.
I see, I'm very sorry to hear that. By that first paragraph, I really wasn't trying to lecture anyone, least of all you or Palestinians. Rather the opposite, I was trying to distance myself from people that do (people whose comments you read and responded to). I don't quite see how that statement differs from what you yourself have expressed.
Maybe the rest of the text could be thought of as a sort of "lecture" though, idk, but it's more like how I've perceived things up until now and I was quite honestly interested in your view, unlike some others that responded to you. Hope you want to reconsider, if not take care you too Laith.
You don’t have to be sorry, Martin. I’m just tired of hearing how we should behave and how we should control our emotions. Thank you for caring. I will read your comment once I feel out of this pressure. I have only respect and love for you 💚
Spot on. And it’s not just the Palestinians who are regarded as less than human…..anyone who isn’t one of them is considered sub-human and thus unworthy of the protection or rights at least nominally afforded other human beings throughout the world.
I’m sure there are good ones somewhere….but 100% of the Israelis I have encountered while traveling overseas in some 40+ countries or in business here in the USA are morally bankrupt, despicable monsters, seemingly incapable of normal human emotions, with an arrogance that knows no bounds.
They literally believe that they are racially, religiously, culturally superior to all other human beings on the planet and thus are bound by no laws, no rules, nothing. They have morphed into the modern embodiment of the Nazi ideology on steroids, with modern tech, and unlimited budgets, thanks to the servile American (and European) politicians.
I had the small pleasure once of getting a group of arrogant, obnoxious Israelis expelled from their flat in India once, for repeatedly violating every rule of the place, and being the shittiest and most inconsiderate neighbors possible. When I saw them later huddled on a street corner, all these tough ex military guys with their adoring flunkies draped on their arms were completely and utterly lost. They didn’t know what to do next; it seemed as though they had never been told NO even once in their lives; they were emotionally 2 years old, and were flustered now that they had been put in a sort of timeout.
I don’t know what the answer is, because this cancer would disappear quickly if the funding would be cut off, but that seems impossible given the wide swath of Western society beholden to this scummy ideology whether through guilt, blackmail, mutual beneficial relationships or whatever.
Even in a losing cause now, I will continue to speak up, speak put, and will never bend my knee to that diabolical ideology that runs Israel and most of Israeli society.
You must have missed encountering such Israelis as Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappe, Tanya Rhinehart, Amira Haas, Ofer Cassif, Miko Peled, and those working with such organisations as Breaking the Silence, and Combatants for Peace, B’tselem, and others who risk their lives in the effort to end the racist practices of Israel.
I have met people off almost all races, cultures, religions, nationalities, ethnicities, etc. On average and uniformly distributed about 20% were true a$$holes. But of all the jews I met 90% were self-entitled loud-mouth arrogant pushy POS. This is just from my own experience. Now there are also wonderful non-zionist jews, but sadly very small minority. Not all Germans were Nazis but all Germans paid the price. It is all very sad.
Me too But I have many Jewish friends who are not like this............ALL the miscreants come from Israel.
More than 70% of Jews are fighting: Aaron Mate/MaxBlumenthal etc. Illan Pappe.
Yes it is sad and I actually feel bad for the Germans right now because they are between a rock and a hard place. What ever they do is wrong BUT fighting the far right in Europe is never ending..
Take the UK which we left 43yrs ago..........propaganda was enforced as it is now.....in many ways more so even without the internet!
During the French Revolution many millions of Journalists died trying to get to England spreading the news.
I think EVERY single person who reads/watches TeeVEE are the ones to blame/major newspapers.
I keep reiterating time and time again: SHUT down propaganda. Protest outside these fake news sites.
OK go and stand outside Congress and protest: What is this doing for you?
Aboyt 30 years ago in the Wall Street Journal, a story about a rental car in Miami that refused to rent cars to geouze. Luckily, the owner was one of them!! He said they are trouble, and always missing things from the cars when they return them.
Great that you kicked them out of a flat. We have a new Russian geouze that are settling in our neighborhood, and their ra-bbi decided to convert his house into synagogue. In this residential neighborhood there are no place to park, but, for these gang who control the police and the mayor, they are allowed to park on the grass and disrupt the whole street.
When I was a grad student driving a cab at night, down under the old West side highway in Manhattan lived a huge population of large Norway river rats. I imagine those rats were and are viewed more highly than Palestinians are viewed by Zionist Israeli monsters. Both species reproduce too rapidly and are too hardy to conveniently exterminate, so other solutions must be contrived to get rid of them and clean the landscape of their disgusting presence. In such a view, morality has no term in the equation, the only variables are racism, force, and profit.
I've never nor will I ever be more ashamed of being Jewish than I now am. Watching the evil shit smiling next to the evil shit while he's saying 500-600,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered like it's water off a ducks back, is just doesn't get worse that that. I thought that you only see shit like this in the movies, yet here is our reality
You have nothing to be ashamed of my friend. Like many of the wonderful, kind,loving,and caring people I walk with from Jewish voices for peace. We do what we can. You have spoken your heart, I call you friend : )
They’re (the Israelis) has bad as the Apartheid-era White South Africans, who rationalized the brutalization, oppression and murder of Black South Africans for generations. It will take concerted, worldwide pressure to convince Israelis otherwise. If not, then they should leave Palestine. One way or the other, Palestinians will have their homeland.
What a damning statement about the jewish israelis!!! We have been encouraged to think that most jews are reasonable and do not agree with the current war in Gaza- this statement would say the exact opposite. I REALLY object to my tax dollars being spent on genocide and destruc tion. Money should be spent to protect all the Palestinians and rebuild their homeland.
Trump is a disgrace to the US and will cause the entire world to hate us- if they are not already doing so!
There is no difference between Trump's and Biden's supporters when it comes to Zionist israel. Ds and Rs are the same genocide supporters. Ds may be opposing Trump on ethnic cleansing but not because they support Palestine or Palestinian rights. They could care less. They just hate Trump.
Now, we get to the heart of the matter. Zionism is as cravenly evil as Nazism. The two ideologies are identical. We in the Western Empire live in the Fourth Reich. We are perpetrating a holocaust. We will pay mightily for this abomination and live in infamy forever in the eyes of the decent.
I have been saying and writing that for more than 35 years and all I got was hate, dismissal, and disbelief. Human arrogance, corruption, and stupidity will doom human race. Unfortunately but fully deservedly.
This really makes me pessimistic that the current “cease fire” will evolve into a more lasting end to war in Gaza. The west should be sanctioning Israel for its genocidal conduct, but that won’t happen because it would then have sanction itself as an accomplice.
Indeed! Where are the world governments? The U.S. no longer has military superiority in the world. They could end up being exterminated themselves or more likely triggering the end of our world through nuclear war.
Do we really want them in the US? There must be an unoccupied island somewhere of decent size where they could be deposited- and no, I am NOT thinking of Greenland.
As social degeneration spirals out of control initiated by insane leaders fear and desolation rule with a heavy hand. The statement that we are all Palestinians has never been so pertinent. When leaders are so deaf, dumb and insane they will lash out in every direction, take no prisoners and cannibalize their own cultures. Insanity is even more contagious than COVID, we know the source, and are victims of its virulence.
Just the sight of Trump and Netanyahu together makes me ill.
yes. and the sight of other countries, other cultures supporting Israel's cruelty makes all of us ill in one way or another.
To be honest, that was true for Genocide Joe and NutanYahoo as well. Trump has now earned the name Genocide Trump. The name should never be said or written now without Genocide in front.
Their favorite scapegoat and whipping boy, Putin suddenly comes more respectable.
The sight of Netanyahu not rotting in prison makes me ill.
I'm willing to ignore my visceral reaction if a resolution acceptable to all sides is reached.
I agree, but the resolution these two demons have devised involves blatant ethnic cleansing.
Thanks for the reply, Jim.
Unlike you--and at this point, at least six others--I'm waiting to hear a bit more from Trump about what he offers the Gazans and their response before calling for him to swing from the gallows with the Netanyahu regime and assorted enablers from the last US administration.
Change a few select words and by golly, you'd be reading about what the United States of America did to the indigenous people of the New World. This' our history which has gotten us to this place. Hey folks, wake-up and realize that we are the masters of disaster and nothing is going to change that. Hell, the Zionists are mere amateurs in ethnic cleansing, bush league at best. In 'Not A Nation of Immigrants: Settler Colonialism, White Supremacy, And A History of Erasure and Exclusion" author Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz gives the number of 90 million dead "Indians" as the singer sang "...but ain't that just America..." Again, Masters of Disaster!
The facts are the facts.
Yes. That's what I was going to point out: this applies equally to the places that became the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand--the only difference is that the poor Israelis were forced to do this when everyone is looking, including, in the current phase, when people all over the world can see live imagery of atrocities against children. When the descendants of those who committed similar atrocities in the English-speaking settler states, and more recent immigrants, are sufficiently removed from the crimes to disavow them and proclaim such things immoral and illegal. Given that, it must take really relentless propaganda to get Israelis into such a mindset. I suspect a key part is that those who remain normal, get the hell out of Israel.
the poor Israelis? I feel not one iota of sympathy for them. Nor for any of the other colonizers of the world.
nor do I--that was tongue in cheek
All of the Israelis who I have met that were not utterly detestable people had emigrated to other countries because they couldn't handle their native culture.
I think that's how it got to be 97%. Everybody that couldn't buy into that horrible racist culture got the fuck out--for like three generations. Leaving the arrogant, racist, entitled, blindered people behind.
Damned right, Mary. Mind you, here in 'Straya, anyone who thinks an apology and constitutional recognition of First Nations people are morally required are accused of being believers in 'black armband History' or simply 'woke', an argument which worked very well in our recent referendum. So we certainly have our share of racist, entitled, blinkered people.
It has been said that 80% of the people who thought they were joining a Jewish Paradise, have left the area after they observe the actual truth.
Israel is a reboot of Nazi Germany.
And that was before the Genocide.
We become what we hate
We who.
And hate what.
Please specify.
THX. :)
Is it that high? And note that anyone doing a survey, or an informal survey in Israel today would not see that--because those are the people who are not there to answer. Thus Israel has been distilled down to the Nazis...and the oppressed refugees in their own land.
Mark Oglesby, I was just thinking on the same lines! But taking it a bit further to the whole world of yesterday - the colonial era. The European powers plundered, raped, exploited, killed the natives ,stole the land, occupied and settled it and fought among themselves for prime land and resources. Enslaved human beings was one resource.They literally drew lines in the sand of the Middle East, redrawing the maps.
The neocolonialist heading the US empire, following in the best traditions of the old, blithely talks about ( in his infantile vocabulary) of redrawing the maps once again.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so tragic to see a convicted felon and a fugitive war criminal holding the world in thrall.
What other countries did we ship Native Americans that survived the slaughter?
Genocide is genocide. I’m Jewish and appalled.
Thanks for having a heart.
My family were murdered by the Nazi’s. I know when I see genocide.
Netanyahu is a war criminal.
Give any group of humans de facto unlimited rights and zero responsibilities and you will get something similar to Israelis right now.
Or, as Lord Acton put it, "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Yes. Most humans can handle adversity. If you want to know the real character of someone, give them power.
At least white male land-owning/slave-owning Americans, that is. Native Americans didn't have any of these rights until the 20th century--and arguably we don't have the full range of them yet.
Your posts need to reach more people.
Every time you find an excuse to separate Jews from Israel. Don’t you get it yet? By making this separation, Israel will continue to go unpunished. I don’t care right now who is right or wrong; what matters to me is stopping the killing of Palestinian children. To achieve that, Jews must be held accountable as Jews and not just as Zionists. Every Israeli is a Jew, and I don’t care about the feelings of a small minority of Jews—that oppose “Israel”—if this will stop Israel. Wake up!
https://youtu.be/vvHX2srBapE?si=5aAsb_39zdEvp0TG
When you’re brainwashed, you respond without even understanding. Let me tell you something, because I know the level of control is so high that you can’t even try to understand or watch the video I posted. My grandparents, my parents, myself, and younger generations—we all call them Jews, because there’s a reality you can’t hide: every single Israeli is a Jew. Now, either you try to understand that, or spare me your empty clichés and broad statements.
Maybe all the Israelis are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelis, or Zionists. If you blame all Jews for what Israel does, that IS antisemitism. Which only gives ammunition to the sniveling cowards in North America and Europe who are excusing and enabling this atrocity--and trying to silence objections as "antisemitic hate speech."
Load of BS. If any Muslim (even by name only) in the world on any day does anything slightly inappropriate (such as slap his child), you can be assured that in the western press there will be thousands of hate-filled articles and opinions on how Islam is evil violent religion. Hundreds of new Hollywood movies depicting ALL Muslims as terrorists will be made. There is no problem in the west vilifying ALL 1.7 billion Muslims ALL the time. I guess some people have more rights than the other in the "enlightened civilized democratic" western world. Jews are not special in any way and do not have more rights than the others. Most of their "victimhood" is based on lies and endless propaganda (holocaust industry). The unarmed Palestinian civilian victims of genocide are accused of terrorism while heavily armed jewish killers are called "victims". To what low point has humanity sunk. This will not end up well for ALL humans.
"Zionist killers." BIG difference.
Thia is all true--islamaphobia is rampant in the western world and rarely punished while criticism of Israel is punished by equating it with antisemitism.
The whole term "Islamophobia" is ill defined. Like Arachnophobia. On purpose I would say. Having phobia or fear gives humans justification to respond. It is normal to respond physically and even violently to something that is a threat or phobia. So in fact being Islamophobic may justify and encourage more Anti-Muslim and Anti-Islam hate and violence.
But the vast majority of Jews supports Israel and Zionism. By playing the antisemitism blame-game you are sparing a whole group of inhumane psychopaths of accountability for the crimes and atrocities they are commiting. And thanks to that they will continue their atrocities and live in the illusion of being a superior race, that needs to be protected for whatever happens by the world. The point you try to reach is nonsense
Okay, my mother was a Jew--she became Christian but later became Islamaphobic under the influence of her Zionist brother. But since I'm half Jewish, therefore I'm a Jew--doesn't matter that I'm anti-Zionist, speaking against this genocide constantly, or that I live in West Virginia--because I'm a Jew, and the evil is in the BLOOD, right? Can you not see that this is Nazi ideology? The same Nazi ideology that has taken over Israel, seeing Palestinians as subhuman because they interfere with the Chosen People--Master Race--and their lebensraum? The idea that any people, any ethnicity, is superior or inferior, that one race is entitled to land and privileges and another entitled to death, is the essence of Naziism. You don't have to speak German to be a Nazi. Your targets don't have to be Jews. Tell me this--since you think all Jews are inherently evil, would it have been better is Hitler had completed his genocide?
First, I have nowhere expresses any vision of genociding or extinguishing any people. This comes from your phantasy. And, obviously you believe you are Jewish because your mom is Jewish, even though she left the religion at some point. So Judaism is in your blood? Is it genetic? Its you that claim that and yes, that's also what the Nazi ideology thought. In my opinion, religion has nothing to do with race, it doesn't stick in our genes or blood and can be left behind. So, if a religion obviously is the written and ideological base for a genocidal, racist, supremacist community, maybe you should rather think of leaving that half- part of you that is part of this community rather than victimizing yourself under the claim of antisemitism. And please, don't lecture me on Nazi ideology. I know enough about it to know that what the Jews are commiting now on the Palestinian is nothing short in what the Nazis did to the victims of the Holocaust (yes, it wasn't only Jews that were killed), or what the Germans did to the Herero. Because also, Jews don't have a superior right on the victim-role
Jewishness is both a religion and an ethnic group. It's not a universalizing religion--essentially there are no people who are Jews by religion but not Jewish by ethnicity. But there are a lot, perhaps most Jews who are not religious. Including my mother's family, who were fiercely atheistic. I say I'm a Jew because by Jewish law I am--t goes by the mother, not the father. I don't believe you can say anything about any ethnic group other than a few minor physical things--I believe the person who said all the many Israelis he met were arrogant pricks, but it's not because they were of Jewish ethnicity--it's because they were raised in Israel. Yes, what the Jews are doing in Palestine is exactly analogous to what the Nazis did in the 1930s and 1940s.
The important this is whether he believes Judaism is in his blood. All religion is ideology.
Stop pretending to be a victim. Stop using Israël arguments to keep killing the Palestinians. Stop acting like a supremacist while seeking sympathy as if you’re the victim. Don’t talk about antisemitism—just shut up and stop playing the victim. The majority of Jews support Israel. You can’t hide this truth. Dont lecture us don’t fucking lecture the Palestinians what to call the fucking Jews that kill and steal our land for 80 years . Dont !!!!
When did i say I was a victim? When did I say anything negative about Palestinians? What Israeli argument did I use to justify their filthy campaign of extermination? And--do you have evidence that a majority of Jews OUTSIDE ISRAEL support this genocide?
Apparently you yourself are Palestinian--so your antisemitism is understandable. Nonetheless, I must and will call out REAL antisemitism, as opposed to the bullshit the Zionists are pushing where criticism of Israel is antisemitism.
Laith. Are you a Palestinian living in Palestine right now?
NO!
Thank you, Mary Wildfire.
“But the vast majority of Jews supports Israel and Zionism”
Do you have evidence for this claim? There are more Jews living outside of Israel than in Israel. Do you have evidence that they support Zionism? And even if that statement were true, there are many prominent Jewish figures in the anti-Zionist movement, and every anti-Zionist action I’ve seen has had had plenty of Jews. Do you really want to alienate these allies by stereotyping Jews as the eve enemy? It makes neither moral nor strategic sense. It makes as much sense as wiping out Palestinians “because Hamas.”
Aaron Mate is a Jew////Max Blumenthal/Illan Pappe and many hundreds more are speaking out against genocide.
Where is your voice?
You see, when you like them, you call them Jews. Maybe it’s hard to see that after all these decades of brainwashing.
These two Jews have enjoyed the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians for eight decades. They kept their Israeli nationality and had no problem being Zionists. If you understand the basic meaning of Zionism—which is giving the right to Palestinian land to any Jew in the world—you’ll see that both groups “pro Palestinian” and not were fine with it and lived peacefully in Israel.
So, these two Jews are Zionists.
First of all I never said that I want to wipe out anyone. Secondly, we know that there is some Jews in the anti-zionist movement, which doesn't make my claim wrong. There are polls that show that the majority of Jews in for example the US or Britain support Israel, as well as their genocide. In short, what I want to say, Judaism obviously has a problem as its majority supports a supremacist ideology, genocide on the Palestinian people and are supportive of a sick apartheid state. That's not a stereotype but a fact. And shouting "Antisemit" on anyone that criticize the Jewish community for this obvious and unaddressed issue without rather addressing the theological and ideological root problem in the Jewish community, which hence is responsible for the atrocities, doesn't lead anywhere. I have seen very little of the "anti-zionist" Jews doing that so far.
Check the polls before you open your moth !
The Jews who were in Nazi concentration camps were called Jews. But when they boarded boats and came to Palestine to kill Palestinians, they became Zionists. Spare me this BS!
you don't live in Palestine and in fact have never been to Palestine. You are the same provocateur as the "son of Hamas".
I don’t live in Palestine—aha, do you know what shame means ? I don’t thé I so, maybe because European Jews came and ethnically cleansed my grandparents, that’s why. I can make a post about your fake activism. You mock Palestinians because European Jews expelled them from their homes, but you’re not even worthy. Just a dumb person who compares the occupied with the occupiers. Seriously, go fuck yourselves. Shame on you. Listen to what he says and learn, we call them Jews in Palestine, because every F Israeli is a Jew
https://youtu.be/_C1DHpSp1cU?si=64Sr5nlrZQqLn-25
you need a shrink.
Do you see how brainwashed you are? For a century, European Jews and other Jews have been killing Palestinians, stealing their land and resources, using the Torah script to dehumanize Palestinians like the Amalek. And yet, you’re telling me Palestinians shouldn’t hate Jews? Are you out of your mind?
It’s your meaningless attempt to separate Jews from Israel that upholds this supremacist view that Jews are untouchable. Stop fucking around and erase the decades of brainwashing. Watch the video and start seeing Palestinians as humans.
Do you not understand the irony of your position? Your argument is that “some Jews have committed and continue to commit awful atrocities, therefore we should hate Jews.”
This same argument can be (and is) applied to any group of people. This is the very same logic used by Israel/zionists to attack and hate Palestinians. Any time you see a person as “that group” (Jewish, Palestinian, white, black, Catholic, etc.), imposing upon them your judgement of the character of “that group”, you are dehumanizing them, and are guilty of the crime against which you are supposedly fighting against. Are you against racism and genocide? Or are you just against racism and genocide directed against your group? One is the attitude that can change the world. The other is attitude that ensures the atrocities continue forever.
Do you understand how brainwashed you are? Why did we call them Jews when they were victims in concentration camps, but refuse to call them Jews now when they are committing genocide? The percentage of Jews who support Israel today is much higher than the percentage of Jews who were victims in those camps. So why this contradiction?
How will you hold Israel accountable if you refuse to acknowledge it as a Jewish state — which it openly claims to be? How long will you continue to favor the narrative of Jewish victimhood over the oppression faced by Africans, Indians, and all other nations? Spreading hate? Really? On Palestinian spread hatred because they talk about their occupier, Just fuck off.
If the Chinese came and occupied Palestine, I would hate them and call them Chinese, not communists.
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You are a racist, fascist prick, Laith. I'm blocking your ignorant rants, even though I understand its origins.
Free Palestine and fuck racism.
Well said Mary Wildfire!
You seem to have nothing better to do besides clapping? 🤡🤣 Get the fuck out of here.
What's you problem dude? I wasn't communicating with YOU. Go take your venom and hatred somewhere else - you're not helping the Palestinians with your attitude, you're hurting their cause.
Ok clown keep clapping, and don’t lecture me
Most of them don't believe in god. Ben-Gurion was a Buddhist.
You must find a new name, like nephalim? The evil ones are the Talmudic type. The moderate ones are the godless libtards, and the reformed ones are the once a year visitor to the synagogue of Satan. All of them will gang up on anyone who offend them, more like Muslims do. So, here is the real truth both sides are militantly obsessed with their religious identifications. In Islam, it is like a mafia gang? If you leave the club, they will KILL you.
Again, we must have conscious and never allow ethnic cleansing or land grab a la Trump. But, both sides must look themselves in the mirror, and must have reformers for leaderships.
Both sides for a biased person like you, who equates the criminal colonizer with the occupied. I don’t even know why I’m responding to this BS anyway.
Your equation is wrong! While every Israeli might be Jew (which I doubt, because 20% are Palestinians), not every Jew is Israeli. For instance, I am a Transylvanian Jew, who never set foot in Israel, and never intend to. Zionism is pure Naziism!
When your analysis is wrong it makes your target wrong. When you do that you end up not gaining your objective.
What is a Jew? What is the Jewish people?
These two questions are at the heart of the "Israeli" fraud.
The problem TODAY (and in the last 250 years or so, as well) is that these questions - or maybe more accurately - these concepts - lost their clear definition. These concepts WERE very clear in the past but today they are without a clear definition. This vagueness is capitalized by the criminal mafia who wants to dominate the world by any means.
If we understand that the CLEAR version of these concepts belongs ONLY to history (and not the present day) things begin to become clearer.
Zionism is a national movement of a nation that lost its historic identity. All that remains is the mere acknowledgment that the Jews WERE a people (a nation with a clear definition) but today this acknowledgement can't be satisfied from INTERNAL aspects to the Jewish way of life. So in order to feel national Jew you do not ask: who am I? or who we are?
Instead of looking inward you look back at history and use past suffering to receive compensation (in any way: money, land, state). Being a Jew is therefore running amok with few hefty 'coupons' in your hands, and demanding the world will pay you back. This is the explanation to most of the Zionistic organizations that operate in the world today. This is what they do. Blackmail.
So, your feeling that this is an entirely JEWISH operation that cannot be separated Israel from Jews is correct.
That said in my opinion it is 100% Jewish in its TACTICS and in the fact that Jews genuinely feel that by doing this they express their Jewishness, BUT it has nothing to do with the historic religion of Judaism. So Jewishness became not a national (internal) real content but a psychological set of symptoms that has very little indeed with historic Jewish way of life (the religion).
This ability to act criminally (and psychotically) while hiding behind the notion of a historic people - is what has given political Zionism its potency, and this is why the empire sought to adopt it as some kind of a shield.
Zionism, therefore, proved to be a marvellous means to excuse any act of the empire while shutting up any criticism - a great tool to bulldoze and push a side all that is in empire’s way.
Unfortunately, so it seems, 97% of Jews bought into this (sick) identity. Like a cult.
It is my opinion that this was foisted on the Jews and the vast majority of them could not resist the prizes that this arrangement gave them. The shame and the internal destruction of the “Jewish People” did not matter to the one bit because the historic Jewish people does not exist anymore. As I was trying to explain in the beginning it only belongs to history and not the present day.
Hello Laith, don't know if you'll see this but here's a point of view I'd love to hear your thoughts about.
For Palestinians to hate Jews in general isn’t irrational. I wouldn’t moralize about it, as some of your opponents here do.
But I’m afraid that factually and strategically, it is not a very reasonable perspective. Let me explain why I think so.
Political Zionism has since the onset had as a main objective to equate itself with Judaism and associate itself with the world’s jewry. In this ambition, it hasn’t stopped short of lies, bribes, brainwashing or even Nazi collaboration. It has indeed been rather successful, not least in enrolling Jews across the world to its cause. But since the same onset it has also had Jewish opponents, an opposition that lost momentum after the Holocaust but has gradually expanded as the nature of Zionism has become increasingly apparent for everyone to see.
This opposition poses a very important threat to Zionism, because by its very existence it undermines both the tenets of Zionism, and one of its most lethal and versatile weapons: the anti-semitism charge. Equating Zionism with jewishness has served the two-fold interest of recruiting Jews internationally (an influential group) to back its interests AND to disarm opposition by naming it anti-semitism. Anti-zionist jews seriously destabilize this whole enterprise at the core of the Zionist agenda. Yes, anti-zionist Jews are a minority but they are not that few. The reason we don’t see them a whole lot doesn’t only have to do with their numbers, but with the interests they are confronting.
While I do understand the instinct to claim that Jews or Judaism is the problem, rather than Zionism I think its counter-productive, for several reasons. Not only is it difficult to rationalize since you will find both Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews ranging from orthodox to atheist, as well as from caucasian to African. So it’s kind of difficult to pinpoint what it would boil down to. Not saying there couldn’t be a culture of supremacy passed down culturally for generations which may play in, but as an authoritative explanation it’s not that convincing. After all, Jews might have had a bad rep for long but at least weren’t known for ethnical cleansing before the advent of Zionism.
But moreover, since the argument is both quite weak and explictly anti-jewish it isn’t likely to convince large parts of the international Palestine solidarity movement, a movement that currently has massive momentum. Trying to establish this perspective in the movement would most likely harm it and cause it to lose both support and membership. It would surely disrupt the alliance with those anti-zionist jews that are currently one of Israel’s main annoyances.
It seems Hmas is quite aware of this outlook and realize that their enemy are Zionists irrespective of ethnicity, rather than say an anti-zionist German Jew getting arrested for anti-semitism and terrorism when speaking out for Palestine, while their Christian Democrat government is busy supplying Israel with the arms to fuel their genocide. The Hmas charter nowadays is void of hostility towards Jews in general.
I don’t know if you read the last paragraph of the article but it stresses that any population on the oppressive end of a colonial apartheid system will degenerate morally. The percentage of white Europeans in the US that opposed slavery in the 18th or 19th century was definitely very low. The same with white South Africans opposing apartheid. Did it have anything to do with whiteness? Probably, as a culture. Can it be remedied? There are signs that it can and we must hope that it can, because the project of trying to eradicate an entire ethnic group has never led to anything but catastrophe in the history of humankind. Gaza is but the latest example of that.
Respectfully,
I read up to this point: “For Palestinians to hate Jews in general isn’t irrational. I wouldn’t moralize about it, as some of your opponents here do.”
I won’t continue reading, simply because Palestinians are equal humans with the ability to think for themselves. I won’t accept by Jews ethnically cleansing Palestinians and then having the rest, along with their followers, lecture us about love and hate.
By the way, I’ll be writing an article about how you all respond like bots—programmed to hear only certain things—and then, the moment a Palestinian speaks their mind, you all jump in to lecture them.
Take care Martin
I see, I'm very sorry to hear that. By that first paragraph, I really wasn't trying to lecture anyone, least of all you or Palestinians. Rather the opposite, I was trying to distance myself from people that do (people whose comments you read and responded to). I don't quite see how that statement differs from what you yourself have expressed.
Maybe the rest of the text could be thought of as a sort of "lecture" though, idk, but it's more like how I've perceived things up until now and I was quite honestly interested in your view, unlike some others that responded to you. Hope you want to reconsider, if not take care you too Laith.
You don’t have to be sorry, Martin. I’m just tired of hearing how we should behave and how we should control our emotions. Thank you for caring. I will read your comment once I feel out of this pressure. I have only respect and love for you 💚
i can't find the excuse.
looking at results and the way things are (not) moving, one could say a majority of the westerners who are not jews support the genocide.
Spot on. And it’s not just the Palestinians who are regarded as less than human…..anyone who isn’t one of them is considered sub-human and thus unworthy of the protection or rights at least nominally afforded other human beings throughout the world.
I’m sure there are good ones somewhere….but 100% of the Israelis I have encountered while traveling overseas in some 40+ countries or in business here in the USA are morally bankrupt, despicable monsters, seemingly incapable of normal human emotions, with an arrogance that knows no bounds.
They literally believe that they are racially, religiously, culturally superior to all other human beings on the planet and thus are bound by no laws, no rules, nothing. They have morphed into the modern embodiment of the Nazi ideology on steroids, with modern tech, and unlimited budgets, thanks to the servile American (and European) politicians.
I had the small pleasure once of getting a group of arrogant, obnoxious Israelis expelled from their flat in India once, for repeatedly violating every rule of the place, and being the shittiest and most inconsiderate neighbors possible. When I saw them later huddled on a street corner, all these tough ex military guys with their adoring flunkies draped on their arms were completely and utterly lost. They didn’t know what to do next; it seemed as though they had never been told NO even once in their lives; they were emotionally 2 years old, and were flustered now that they had been put in a sort of timeout.
I don’t know what the answer is, because this cancer would disappear quickly if the funding would be cut off, but that seems impossible given the wide swath of Western society beholden to this scummy ideology whether through guilt, blackmail, mutual beneficial relationships or whatever.
Even in a losing cause now, I will continue to speak up, speak put, and will never bend my knee to that diabolical ideology that runs Israel and most of Israeli society.
You must have missed encountering such Israelis as Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappe, Tanya Rhinehart, Amira Haas, Ofer Cassif, Miko Peled, and those working with such organisations as Breaking the Silence, and Combatants for Peace, B’tselem, and others who risk their lives in the effort to end the racist practices of Israel.
As Caitlin cites in her essay, Jewish Israelis with even a trace of moral conscience are a tiny minority—less than 3%.
You are correct. I have never met any of those people.
How Israelis Live So Easily With Occupation - Gideon Levy
https://youtu.be/3EtNFXL_ykg?si=VvDQonl3qHNQypMZ
What a wonderful video! Thank you so much for sharing!
undoubtedly--it would be easy to miss such a small number.
And Joy, may I add Jewish Voice for Peace.
I have had the same experience as you Joe whilst travelling.....sitting next to these people in restaurants is a rude awakening.
I have met people off almost all races, cultures, religions, nationalities, ethnicities, etc. On average and uniformly distributed about 20% were true a$$holes. But of all the jews I met 90% were self-entitled loud-mouth arrogant pushy POS. This is just from my own experience. Now there are also wonderful non-zionist jews, but sadly very small minority. Not all Germans were Nazis but all Germans paid the price. It is all very sad.
Me too But I have many Jewish friends who are not like this............ALL the miscreants come from Israel.
More than 70% of Jews are fighting: Aaron Mate/MaxBlumenthal etc. Illan Pappe.
Yes it is sad and I actually feel bad for the Germans right now because they are between a rock and a hard place. What ever they do is wrong BUT fighting the far right in Europe is never ending..
Take the UK which we left 43yrs ago..........propaganda was enforced as it is now.....in many ways more so even without the internet!
During the French Revolution many millions of Journalists died trying to get to England spreading the news.
I think EVERY single person who reads/watches TeeVEE are the ones to blame/major newspapers.
I keep reiterating time and time again: SHUT down propaganda. Protest outside these fake news sites.
OK go and stand outside Congress and protest: What is this doing for you?
Move to Mainstream Media and shut them down.
Aboyt 30 years ago in the Wall Street Journal, a story about a rental car in Miami that refused to rent cars to geouze. Luckily, the owner was one of them!! He said they are trouble, and always missing things from the cars when they return them.
I have had the same experience traveling in the Miami area. Rude, loud, obnoxious and even practicing "accidental" battery.
Great that you kicked them out of a flat. We have a new Russian geouze that are settling in our neighborhood, and their ra-bbi decided to convert his house into synagogue. In this residential neighborhood there are no place to park, but, for these gang who control the police and the mayor, they are allowed to park on the grass and disrupt the whole street.
“Emotionally two years old”. No wonder Trump can relate to them so well!
When I was a grad student driving a cab at night, down under the old West side highway in Manhattan lived a huge population of large Norway river rats. I imagine those rats were and are viewed more highly than Palestinians are viewed by Zionist Israeli monsters. Both species reproduce too rapidly and are too hardy to conveniently exterminate, so other solutions must be contrived to get rid of them and clean the landscape of their disgusting presence. In such a view, morality has no term in the equation, the only variables are racism, force, and profit.
I've never nor will I ever be more ashamed of being Jewish than I now am. Watching the evil shit smiling next to the evil shit while he's saying 500-600,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered like it's water off a ducks back, is just doesn't get worse that that. I thought that you only see shit like this in the movies, yet here is our reality
You have nothing to be ashamed of my friend. Like many of the wonderful, kind,loving,and caring people I walk with from Jewish voices for peace. We do what we can. You have spoken your heart, I call you friend : )
Thank you for those kind words my friend :-)
Thank you for have morals.
I thank you for sharing that
They’re (the Israelis) has bad as the Apartheid-era White South Africans, who rationalized the brutalization, oppression and murder of Black South Africans for generations. It will take concerted, worldwide pressure to convince Israelis otherwise. If not, then they should leave Palestine. One way or the other, Palestinians will have their homeland.
What a damning statement about the jewish israelis!!! We have been encouraged to think that most jews are reasonable and do not agree with the current war in Gaza- this statement would say the exact opposite. I REALLY object to my tax dollars being spent on genocide and destruc tion. Money should be spent to protect all the Palestinians and rebuild their homeland.
Trump is a disgrace to the US and will cause the entire world to hate us- if they are not already doing so!
There is no difference between Trump's and Biden's supporters when it comes to Zionist israel. Ds and Rs are the same genocide supporters. Ds may be opposing Trump on ethnic cleansing but not because they support Palestine or Palestinian rights. They could care less. They just hate Trump.
Well, we now have the GULF OF AMERICA. No more the gulf of Mexico. I think that was on the top of the list for his voters? NOT!
Now, we get to the heart of the matter. Zionism is as cravenly evil as Nazism. The two ideologies are identical. We in the Western Empire live in the Fourth Reich. We are perpetrating a holocaust. We will pay mightily for this abomination and live in infamy forever in the eyes of the decent.
I have been saying and writing that for more than 35 years and all I got was hate, dismissal, and disbelief. Human arrogance, corruption, and stupidity will doom human race. Unfortunately but fully deservedly.
>>"Human arrogance, corruption, and stupidity will doom human race. Unfortunately but fully deservedly."
🎯 Unfortunately true (IMHO). Well said Nick Douglas!
🎯💯 Thank you for that Penelope Prill! Much truth to that...
Thank you for that. History will look poorly on most of us.
This really makes me pessimistic that the current “cease fire” will evolve into a more lasting end to war in Gaza. The west should be sanctioning Israel for its genocidal conduct, but that won’t happen because it would then have sanction itself as an accomplice.
Thank You Caitlin
Cancel the State of Israel and move them to Miami and NYC , or send them Hypersonics ?
Make Palestine Palestine Again. Stop Israeli control of the U.S. and others.
Where are the world governments to stop this?‼️❓‼️🤬
Indeed! Where are the world governments? The U.S. no longer has military superiority in the world. They could end up being exterminated themselves or more likely triggering the end of our world through nuclear war.
Do we really want them in the US? There must be an unoccupied island somewhere of decent size where they could be deposited- and no, I am NOT thinking of Greenland.
No unoccupied islands.
Moving only spreads the cancer so the second option is looking like the only option.
Maybe the Yemeni's will have something to say NOT to mention Egypt/Jordan and Iran. This is becoming a demeaning episode for Arab leaders.
Fake comment.Must be the Hasbara kids using US taxpayer money to shill for the reincarnation of WW2. Actually IT has surpassed WW2G
Send them to Mars. Maybe then Elon Musk will finally realize how hard it is to colonize Mars.
As social degeneration spirals out of control initiated by insane leaders fear and desolation rule with a heavy hand. The statement that we are all Palestinians has never been so pertinent. When leaders are so deaf, dumb and insane they will lash out in every direction, take no prisoners and cannibalize their own cultures. Insanity is even more contagious than COVID, we know the source, and are victims of its virulence.
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