Anyone that cheers for regime change in IRAN and not for Regime change in Israel is not a true leftist or Liberal and don't know world US, or IRANs history except through the Lens of America warmongering western Colonial Imperialist and their supporters, followers and haters of Shiites and Islam
That's one of my dreams especially this latest regime destroying us right now ,that would eliminate a lot of the worlds problem, but why when we have both these states saying saying international Laws does not apply to them we are in trouble
**Bezalel Smotrich Dec 2025.He Said
International Laws Does Not Apply to Jews. That's the Difference Between the Chosen People and the others
I have been saying this for over 40 years and its good the Zionist have came out and admitted it themselves.
but America is also above all International laws, even if they don't say it, you can see it by their Action in Venezuela today.
**United States President Donald Trump has dismissed international law, saying only his “own morality” can curb the aggressive policies he is pursuing across the world after the abduction of Venezuela’s Nicolas Maduro.
“I don’t need international law.” Trump told The New York Times on Thursday. As he uses the military to extort Venezuela and threatens to wage war against half a dozen other nations,
President Donald Trump stated plainly this week that there are no restraints on his power to use force to dominate and subjugate any country on the planet besides his own will.
Trump’s attack on Venezuela and kidnapping of President Nicolás Maduro last weekend, his floating of military force to annex Greenland this week, and his repeated threats
to bomb Iran in recent days have all been described as blatant affronts to international law and what remains of the “rules-based” global order.
hatever they want with no consequences , it seems hopeless
I keep wondering why no country has placed sanctions on the US, or have they but it's kept quiet? If ever a country deserved sactioning it's the US. It's past time they were sanctioned. It would cut them down fast because Drumpf and his incompetents are right now bankrupting the country and butchering other countries riches won't be enough to save them because the outlay in everything that goes into taking over another country is huge and,they are still arming israel plus what it's costing having the ICE thugs killing innocent people, who will sue, as many are already doing - even if they don't win, the cost to the government will be millions for solicitors etc.
Actually, there is one country out there that has sanctioned the USA, and that is the USA. Because Trump and his tariffs effectively do much the same thing that sanctions do, which is to cut off our ability to buy goods from abroad at affordable prices. But don't worry: a robust black market will be available soon, based on cryptocurrency (and probably with Trump's family getting in on the action).
-USA is so massively powerful and influential despite Trump's best efforts to alienate allies.
There are no sanctions against USA, but tariffs are doing damage. Such is the desired outcome of Donald Trump, who as Putin's poodle wishes to destroy USA in as many ways as possible.
You got it exactly wrong. It's the USA that wants to destroy Russia in as many ways as possible. If Trump is Putin's poodle, why did he allow the CIA to try to blow up Putin's home? Or don't you believe the New York Times?
Try using a different source than the NYT since all their articles are behind a paywall [and if you're going to reference a specific news source you should provide a link to the story].
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The Question on Quora by a supporter of Israel .
*Is it getting too late for the UN to intervene in the autocratic and despotic country of Iran, to stop the carnage of its educated and peace-loving citizens, who aspire peaceful coexistence with its neighbors?
*My Answer, was Maybe this question should be addressed by the Zionist that has been conducting 2 plus year non stop Genocide even as we speak ? (Book of Deutoronomy7:1-8
When the Lord Your God, brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many people living there,
you shall then slaughter them All and utterly and Destroy them. You shall make no agreements with them and show them any Mercy.
Ye shall Destroy their Altars ,break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their holy images with fire For you are a Holy
People unto the Lord thy God, and he has chosen you to be a Special People above all others Upon the face of the Earth.
Book of Deutoronomy7:1-8
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Technically, they are—"Western Leftists", borrowing Losurdo's term "Western Marxists" ;) Whereas liberals are just the flip side of fascism in practice, no matter the ideal.
The vague justification of 'women's rights in Iran' has been used the same way 'Maduro is an illegitimate president' was in Venezuela: it gets brought up as an emotional bludgeon to derail any discussion, but it will be forgotten the moment the imperialists get what they want
Womens rights? Saw bugger all hijabs or whatnot in all the current scenes from Iran. Teheran looks like most other major cities in the world , population clothing wise
Well yes, but facts don't matter. There are plenty of videos of sad-looking people saying the protests are about "democracy, equality and women's rights", it's all completely empty and meaningless. Yet it works 😞
I'm not sure thatDrumpf isn't an illegitimate president, the surge in votes for him when it could be seen he was losing is suspect as was Musk's claim that he had won the election for Drumpf and then was given carte blanche into government accounts to do with as he pleased, or at least the kids he set free there were. The mess they left when Drumpf got the huff at all the praise Musk was getting that Drumpf thought only he should get.
America (north) is run by a bunch of men who never got past puberty.
It doesn't take much digging to find out what's really going on in the world.
There are some excellent online news sources starting with Consortium News. Also, give Danny Haiphong a listen and see if you can find an interview with Professor Marandi, who is a Professor at the University of Tehran.
We can't afford to believe the BS the mainstream media is feeding us. It makes us part of the problem
Try Nima from Dialogue Works he's actually in Iran at the moment though he's Brazil based normally. He just interviewed Iran's FM and Marandii is a regular guest. Along with all the global top journalists and analysts. Krainer Escobar Martynov Hudson Baud to name but a few. And Neutrality Studies ain't too shabby either.
Our main job as leftists in the United States and the Western world is to stay the hand of US imperialism and oppose US military intervention in Iran (and that of its client state, Israel) and elsewhere as well as US covert interventions in the internal politics of other countries. No matter what is hapoening in these countries, the US is incapable of “liberating” the population & any intervention is guaranteed to make things far worse for the people in those countries..
That shouldn’t mean we as leftists need to be indifferent to a fundamentalist authoritarian regime that mows down thousands of protesters, oppresses women, executes gays and lesbians, etc. and is following policies that make the economic hardship caused by US sanctions even more devastating.
I think such repression makes it HARDER not easier, for Iran to defend its sovereignty from foreign imperialist aggressors.
I hope Iran creates the kind of leadership they need consistent with the vision of Iranian feminists of a couple of years ago, “women, life, freedom”. And I hope we in the US do the same against our own horrid government. Such fundamental change may feel unrealistic until it is not. Only struggle and organizing can shift the odds in our favor
I love how women living in a genophobic pornographic society that hypersexualizes women from cradle to grave constantly fighting for their right to choose is the biggest groomer in the world and in many cases can't even define what a women is is so worried bout women wearing headscarves. How about woman life freedom for Saudi ladies or even Indonesia another predominately Muslim country? How bout liberating those ladies with western values? An oxymoron if ever.
Prof. Marandi pointed this out once in an interview; to paraphrase, You Americans criticize our women for wearing headscarves, but you use women’s bodies to sell everything from A to Z.
I live in a state with one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations outside the Middle East. Which do you think I’d rather see: these lovely Muslim women in attractive scarves, or obese American teenagers in bike shorts and crop tops with their fat bulging out everywhere?
I never said women in the US are free. We are very far from it. But the status of women, after almost two centuries of struggle here is somewhat better than Iran where women can’t travel or work in certain professions or even go on a hike without the permission of their husbands.
It is possible to both oppose male supremacy and oppose imperialism, which in itself is the epitome of male supremacy. The spirited women of Iran will secure their own liberation and inspire all of us in doing so. The heavy boot of the US war machine and its junior partner, Israel, will NOT free them.
Let me tell bout Hasidic women. Forced to shave their heads upon marriage. Wear a wig with a kerchief. Dressed from toes to neck regardless of the weather. Must lower eyes when addressing a man. Considered dirty and must go through a cleaning ritual every month. Do not work at all outside the home. Have children in the double digits from a young age which wrecks havoc on their bodies. Prolapsed uterus and the like. Arranged marriages. Double kitchens for dairy and nondairy. If accidentally mixed up(which is easy to do when you're caring for 28 children) both kitchens and all utensils must be cleaned and released by a rabbi. Then there's FGM in Egypt. Horrific stuff wouldn't you say? But not our culture or job to “liberate” we can only educate. That said did you know that 70% of STEM graduates in Iran are women? Science Technology Engineering and Maths. That they can have their own businesses? And on campuses the hajib rule is loosely if at all enforced. Do you honestly believe all these women are escorted everywhere? School work or coffee with friends? I also don't know of a single country that was liberated through interventions military or otherwise that improved anything for anyone. Men women or children. I wonder if you saw the progovernment marches? After the internet shut down that fuelled the riots because insurgents and foreign agents couldn't get instructions from their paymasters? There were bigger crowds than the riots. And no violence. Whole families were out in support of their government. I say we liberate the poor Hasids and victims of FGM. For medical not religious ideological or political reasons which when all is said and done is not our beeswax.
If you are responding to me, you didn’t read what I wrote. I am OPPOSED to all forms of US intervention. The women of Iran and the Iranian people as a whole are perfectly capable of leading their own liberation struggle, and of course US military intervention and/or regime change CIA operations do not liberate anyone. Their intent is domination and exploitation, not liberation. They make a bad situation much far worse and kill thousands or millions of innocents.
All fundamentalist religions are horrific toward women as are virtually all traditional societies.
Hassidic Jews don’t have state power anywhere while fundamentalist Muslims do in Iran. That’s one reason separation of church/mosque/synogogue and state is so important.
It is imperial, not to mention presumptive, arrogance for Americans to cast aspersions on Iran or Venezuela for not having legal abortions or gay marriages when we won't even house our mentally ill.
All that does is to make you feel a little morally superior for a moment with a little endorphin rush of sanctimony, and to give the Empire cover it does not deserve.
I oppose injustice and oppression wherever it exists including of course inside the U.S. Our main job as Americans is to change the US which as the heart of the empire is responsible for most of the violence in the world and as you point out, treats its own people dispicably.
But at the same time progressives cannot be indifferent to atrocities committed elsewhere, even by forces resisting US imperialism. Iran doesn’t just ban gay marriage but gives the death penalty to gays and lesbians. Women die when abortion is illegal (as it now is in parts of the US as well). That’s not acceptable but in no way weakens my opposition to US intervention .
it does when you're expressing it at the very moment it is also used as an obvious talking point for manufacturing consent for the imperial plans, imo.
Being dishonest about the repressive and misogynistic nature of the regime is not an effective way of building opposition to US imperialism in the heart of the beast. It discredits the Left so we are not believed by the broader population. The point is that US imperialism is not capable of liberating anybody.Recent history - Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. makes that clear. And of course the US has no desire to do so; our rulers are only interested in power, control & robbing other countries of their resources. Instead, they just slaughter civilians and create failed states..
i do not agree. you don't have to bring it up at the moment. it is the way the liberals (not 'left', imo) contribute to supporting the war effort. they did it in afghanistan, in libya, in gaza, ... and venezuela ('unelected dictator'). it is pretty much the 'do you condemn hamas?'-line or the 'the us-empire is clearly violating international law, but ...'-line. i do not think it is dishonest to not mention it spontaneously under the circumstances. liberals discredit themselves with the left and minorities by the rather sudden focus when empire is gearing up for another intervention.
I am NOT a liberal and am on the far Left. I have also been an antiwar activist for decades. I don’t have to like or approve of the government of another country or suppress my criticism of it to unequivocally oppose US intervention. Iran would be in a far better position to fight US imperialism if its government was not authoritarian against its own people and preventing female citizens from fully participating in their society.
Wikipedia includes homosexuality among the offenses for which the death penalty is given, but in a lengthy article full of examples gives only one, and that one is a case of homosexual rape. And lest you think that the article is lax toward Iran's government, note that its second-last sentence reads (at the moment I'm writing): "It is known that at least 488 people have officially been killed during protests in Iran for standing up for what they believe in." - without giving any reference whatsoever to a source. I'll let you decide whether "It is known" is sufficient verification under Wikipedia's standards.
Whose they? I’m not understanding your question. Of course, we wouldn’t have the mullahs in charge if the US hadnt overthrown its democratically elected government decades ago. But a government that doesn’t discount and suppress half its population will be in a stronger position to fight back.
Why? Large majority of Iranians want the system they have now. Just because rotten genocidal west doesn't like it is not Iranian problem. We have seen western values and their enthusiastic support for genocide of Palestinians. Nothing more to say.
Regime change in Iran would be a fine thing if it happened entirely through internal forces, but that's not happening as long as America and Israel exist.
The only regime change I would cheer for is the one in the US and I am not talking about replacing the warmonger republican with a warmonger democrat, I am talking about getting the foreign lobbies and the military industrial complex outside of Congress
"The strongest faction will be whichever one is backed by the US and its allies."
Of course it will be. There's no way the US and its allies are going to let any other type of government take over Iran that won't let the US steal and pillage all their natural resources and take advantage of their cheap labor market... After all, imperialism can only exist by exploiting and appropriating others' resources. Anyone that goes along with that is by no means a real "leftist" or "anarchist". It's a dead give-away they're just propagandists working for the imperialists.
I think it's safe to say, that the "tyranny" levels in Iran, are GREATLY exaggerated. While CIA, MI-6 and Mossad Media outlets are trying to one-up each other, on their announced (fabricated) body counts, coming out of the riots against the Government - Millions of Iranians hit their streets, in support of their Government. It's not getting any press, because it doesn't jibe with the narrative.
Meanwhile, over the past weekend, a representative from the CIA's Terrorist Army, the MEK, drove a UHAUL truck in a fairly uneventful fashion, through a protest in favor of "Regime Change", being held by the Mossad's Iranian Monarchists.
I'm pretty sure that within Iran, the would-be Persian Prince*, is as unpopular, as the MEK, is.
While both can raise a mob, within the centers of the Empire - they lack popular support within Iran, itself.
The numbers I heard, were in the neighborhood of ~250 Mossad guys, who got rounded-up. It sounds like there's evidence against them, talking with their handlers. Piles of weapons and explosives. If so - it won't go well, for them, nor should it.
Here in America, people tie themselves into knots, trying to justify, as self-defense, a masked official gunman shooting a soccer mom in a minivan in the face. She then gets posthumously labeled a "domestic terrorist", by the Vice President. https://imgflip.com/i/ahbe73
In Iran, it sounds like more than 100 cops have been killed - but we're about to bomb, maybe even invade, in support of the "peaceful protestors" that killed them.
*I actually met him once, at an Iranian auto mechanic's shop in the San Fernando Valley. I thought at the time that he was out of his mind, if he ever had any real expectations of returning to his Peacock Throne...but perhaps I was the fool, it seems.
The present Iranian regime only took power because of a power vacuum left when the US empire’s puppet regime got overthrown. If it falls, the US will take its place. There is no version of this that ends with the Iranian people being free.
As long as the US continues to attempt to dominate and control everyone on Earth, there can only ever be two kinds of countries: those that are subservient vassals to the US, and those that are authoritarian enough to be able to prevent the US from undermining them.
The lesson here is this: the only hope for oppressed people the world over to finally be free is for the United States to die. America is why we can’t have nice things.
The reactions of the compatible Western Left to the Empire's most recent aggressions on Venezuela and Iran are truly revealing.
It's a low bar to condemn genocide if there's still some humanity left in you. Once the targets aren't completely defenseless—or "worse" still, they have a strong state—the same "anti-imperial" lefties all start to chant Arendt's "The Origins of Totalitarianism" like a cult.
How did the American public become so accepting and docile to the Empire's depredations? Surely brainwashing and propaganda helped contribute to the dismal state of public discourse. It has rendered the public into a babbling mass of trivia spouting zombies, unable to carry on a serious conversation and accepting everything the state has fed them thru the Kool Aid Fountain.
I’ve been quarreling with myself for decades in my quest to be real about reality.
I have come to recognize that I depend on goods and services to which 75% of the people in the world have no access. I am always reminded that I am blessed to live in a place where creature comforts are available to nobodies like myself.
So this is the power of propaganda. White wash the minds of the society of all of the murders and thefts and rapes committed to manifest real power, and the adornments of real wealth, and kill completely any suggestion that the good life is solely the result of lawlessness!
I think there are two distinct ways to confront the inescapable truth of what America is and always was.
Door A is a just government of basically good people has been hijacked by opportunists that only want to grow financially and consolidate their power.
Door B is an exposed and thoroughly irredeemable system of diligent exploitation of people. It began that way and has ever been thus.
No, the absorption of these regimes into the America "empire" weakens us and our democracy. America is better off in a world of strong democracies not weakened dictatorships or states controlled by drug cartels. Sadly those controlling America's government have also fallen into this shallow realpolitik thinking.
Anyone that cheers for regime change in IRAN and not for Regime change in Israel is not a true leftist or Liberal and don't know world US, or IRANs history except through the Lens of America warmongering western Colonial Imperialist and their supporters, followers and haters of Shiites and Islam
What about regime change in the US?
That's one of my dreams especially this latest regime destroying us right now ,that would eliminate a lot of the worlds problem, but why when we have both these states saying saying international Laws does not apply to them we are in trouble
**Bezalel Smotrich Dec 2025.He Said
International Laws Does Not Apply to Jews. That's the Difference Between the Chosen People and the others
I have been saying this for over 40 years and its good the Zionist have came out and admitted it themselves.
but America is also above all International laws, even if they don't say it, you can see it by their Action in Venezuela today.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________
**United States President Donald Trump has dismissed international law, saying only his “own morality” can curb the aggressive policies he is pursuing across the world after the abduction of Venezuela’s Nicolas Maduro.
“I don’t need international law.” Trump told The New York Times on Thursday. As he uses the military to extort Venezuela and threatens to wage war against half a dozen other nations,
President Donald Trump stated plainly this week that there are no restraints on his power to use force to dominate and subjugate any country on the planet besides his own will.
Trump’s attack on Venezuela and kidnapping of President Nicolás Maduro last weekend, his floating of military force to annex Greenland this week, and his repeated threats
to bomb Iran in recent days have all been described as blatant affronts to international law and what remains of the “rules-based” global order.
hatever they want with no consequences , it seems hopeless
I keep wondering why no country has placed sanctions on the US, or have they but it's kept quiet? If ever a country deserved sactioning it's the US. It's past time they were sanctioned. It would cut them down fast because Drumpf and his incompetents are right now bankrupting the country and butchering other countries riches won't be enough to save them because the outlay in everything that goes into taking over another country is huge and,they are still arming israel plus what it's costing having the ICE thugs killing innocent people, who will sue, as many are already doing - even if they don't win, the cost to the government will be millions for solicitors etc.
Actually, there is one country out there that has sanctioned the USA, and that is the USA. Because Trump and his tariffs effectively do much the same thing that sanctions do, which is to cut off our ability to buy goods from abroad at affordable prices. But don't worry: a robust black market will be available soon, based on cryptocurrency (and probably with Trump's family getting in on the action).
Why sanction us when we sanction ourselves with tariffs that are illegal under our own laws?
"why no country has placed sanctions on the US"
-USA is so massively powerful and influential despite Trump's best efforts to alienate allies.
There are no sanctions against USA, but tariffs are doing damage. Such is the desired outcome of Donald Trump, who as Putin's poodle wishes to destroy USA in as many ways as possible.
You got it exactly wrong. It's the USA that wants to destroy Russia in as many ways as possible. If Trump is Putin's poodle, why did he allow the CIA to try to blow up Putin's home? Or don't you believe the New York Times?
Try using a different source than the NYT since all their articles are behind a paywall [and if you're going to reference a specific news source you should provide a link to the story].
Quoting the Bible is now called 'SPAM' on QUORA. I hope these other sites don't follow suit..
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The Question on Quora by a supporter of Israel .
*Is it getting too late for the UN to intervene in the autocratic and despotic country of Iran, to stop the carnage of its educated and peace-loving citizens, who aspire peaceful coexistence with its neighbors?
*My Answer, was Maybe this question should be addressed by the Zionist that has been conducting 2 plus year non stop Genocide even as we speak ? (Book of Deutoronomy7:1-8
When the Lord Your God, brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many people living there,
you shall then slaughter them All and utterly and Destroy them. You shall make no agreements with them and show them any Mercy.
Ye shall Destroy their Altars ,break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their holy images with fire For you are a Holy
People unto the Lord thy God, and he has chosen you to be a Special People above all others Upon the face of the Earth.
Book of Deutoronomy7:1-8
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As long as the uniparty is in power, regime change will never happen.
As long as it is not led by anyone with any affiliation whatsoever with the Imperialist genocidal Democratic Party.
Urgently needed
Technically, they are—"Western Leftists", borrowing Losurdo's term "Western Marxists" ;) Whereas liberals are just the flip side of fascism in practice, no matter the ideal.
The only regime change in Israel will be another murderous Zionist like the current leader.
Exactly! Which provides the perfect reasoning for dismantling the illegitimate settler-colonial zionist entity of ‘israel’.
The vague justification of 'women's rights in Iran' has been used the same way 'Maduro is an illegitimate president' was in Venezuela: it gets brought up as an emotional bludgeon to derail any discussion, but it will be forgotten the moment the imperialists get what they want
Wasn't that the justification used in Afghanistan? How's that working out .....
Womens rights? Saw bugger all hijabs or whatnot in all the current scenes from Iran. Teheran looks like most other major cities in the world , population clothing wise
Well yes, but facts don't matter. There are plenty of videos of sad-looking people saying the protests are about "democracy, equality and women's rights", it's all completely empty and meaningless. Yet it works 😞
Would that not be reason to invade the US and bring about regime change? The current mobility are putting many, many womens' lives in danger.
Ehhhh but when the "exceptional west" (aka western shithole regimes) does it, it is different, you know. /s
Only because we, the people, allow it.
I'm not sure thatDrumpf isn't an illegitimate president, the surge in votes for him when it could be seen he was losing is suspect as was Musk's claim that he had won the election for Drumpf and then was given carte blanche into government accounts to do with as he pleased, or at least the kids he set free there were. The mess they left when Drumpf got the huff at all the praise Musk was getting that Drumpf thought only he should get.
America (north) is run by a bunch of men who never got past puberty.
It doesn't take much digging to find out what's really going on in the world.
There are some excellent online news sources starting with Consortium News. Also, give Danny Haiphong a listen and see if you can find an interview with Professor Marandi, who is a Professor at the University of Tehran.
We can't afford to believe the BS the mainstream media is feeding us. It makes us part of the problem
Try Nima from Dialogue Works he's actually in Iran at the moment though he's Brazil based normally. He just interviewed Iran's FM and Marandii is a regular guest. Along with all the global top journalists and analysts. Krainer Escobar Martynov Hudson Baud to name but a few. And Neutrality Studies ain't too shabby either.
Don't forget Grayzone and Ben Norton (Geopolitical Economy Report). And Brian Berletic (New Atlas). And Nel Bonilla (Worldlines) here on Substack.
All excellent suggestions, areti.
Good call, Diana. Danny’s interview with Professor Marandi ( who was actually IN Tehran) spoke the truth of the matter.
Seyed is a truthteller
True, especially when the NSM are owned and run by zionists.
Issreshell and the usa don't give a shit about the Iranian people. Just want a coup for their own evil purpose.
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Our main job as leftists in the United States and the Western world is to stay the hand of US imperialism and oppose US military intervention in Iran (and that of its client state, Israel) and elsewhere as well as US covert interventions in the internal politics of other countries. No matter what is hapoening in these countries, the US is incapable of “liberating” the population & any intervention is guaranteed to make things far worse for the people in those countries..
That shouldn’t mean we as leftists need to be indifferent to a fundamentalist authoritarian regime that mows down thousands of protesters, oppresses women, executes gays and lesbians, etc. and is following policies that make the economic hardship caused by US sanctions even more devastating.
I think such repression makes it HARDER not easier, for Iran to defend its sovereignty from foreign imperialist aggressors.
I hope Iran creates the kind of leadership they need consistent with the vision of Iranian feminists of a couple of years ago, “women, life, freedom”. And I hope we in the US do the same against our own horrid government. Such fundamental change may feel unrealistic until it is not. Only struggle and organizing can shift the odds in our favor
US and Israel HANDS OFF Iran!!!
I love how women living in a genophobic pornographic society that hypersexualizes women from cradle to grave constantly fighting for their right to choose is the biggest groomer in the world and in many cases can't even define what a women is is so worried bout women wearing headscarves. How about woman life freedom for Saudi ladies or even Indonesia another predominately Muslim country? How bout liberating those ladies with western values? An oxymoron if ever.
Areti, YES.
Prof. Marandi pointed this out once in an interview; to paraphrase, You Americans criticize our women for wearing headscarves, but you use women’s bodies to sell everything from A to Z.
I live in a state with one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations outside the Middle East. Which do you think I’d rather see: these lovely Muslim women in attractive scarves, or obese American teenagers in bike shorts and crop tops with their fat bulging out everywhere?
It’s nauseating. And yes, I’m a woman.
I never said women in the US are free. We are very far from it. But the status of women, after almost two centuries of struggle here is somewhat better than Iran where women can’t travel or work in certain professions or even go on a hike without the permission of their husbands.
It is possible to both oppose male supremacy and oppose imperialism, which in itself is the epitome of male supremacy. The spirited women of Iran will secure their own liberation and inspire all of us in doing so. The heavy boot of the US war machine and its junior partner, Israel, will NOT free them.
Let me tell bout Hasidic women. Forced to shave their heads upon marriage. Wear a wig with a kerchief. Dressed from toes to neck regardless of the weather. Must lower eyes when addressing a man. Considered dirty and must go through a cleaning ritual every month. Do not work at all outside the home. Have children in the double digits from a young age which wrecks havoc on their bodies. Prolapsed uterus and the like. Arranged marriages. Double kitchens for dairy and nondairy. If accidentally mixed up(which is easy to do when you're caring for 28 children) both kitchens and all utensils must be cleaned and released by a rabbi. Then there's FGM in Egypt. Horrific stuff wouldn't you say? But not our culture or job to “liberate” we can only educate. That said did you know that 70% of STEM graduates in Iran are women? Science Technology Engineering and Maths. That they can have their own businesses? And on campuses the hajib rule is loosely if at all enforced. Do you honestly believe all these women are escorted everywhere? School work or coffee with friends? I also don't know of a single country that was liberated through interventions military or otherwise that improved anything for anyone. Men women or children. I wonder if you saw the progovernment marches? After the internet shut down that fuelled the riots because insurgents and foreign agents couldn't get instructions from their paymasters? There were bigger crowds than the riots. And no violence. Whole families were out in support of their government. I say we liberate the poor Hasids and victims of FGM. For medical not religious ideological or political reasons which when all is said and done is not our beeswax.
If you are responding to me, you didn’t read what I wrote. I am OPPOSED to all forms of US intervention. The women of Iran and the Iranian people as a whole are perfectly capable of leading their own liberation struggle, and of course US military intervention and/or regime change CIA operations do not liberate anyone. Their intent is domination and exploitation, not liberation. They make a bad situation much far worse and kill thousands or millions of innocents.
All fundamentalist religions are horrific toward women as are virtually all traditional societies.
Hassidic Jews don’t have state power anywhere while fundamentalist Muslims do in Iran. That’s one reason separation of church/mosque/synogogue and state is so important.
Ann :
If you think ANYONE, be it woman or man, is free in AmeriKKKa, you’d be incorrect, unless one happens to be a member of the Corporate Ruling Class.
The men I know want the same thing as us women: freedom from this tyrannical government. I love men and I don’t care who knows it.
I never said people were free in America of either sex.
We all know how women in the western shitholes are "free". Western "values" = we cheat, we lie, we steal, we genocide.
It is imperial, not to mention presumptive, arrogance for Americans to cast aspersions on Iran or Venezuela for not having legal abortions or gay marriages when we won't even house our mentally ill.
All that does is to make you feel a little morally superior for a moment with a little endorphin rush of sanctimony, and to give the Empire cover it does not deserve.
Facts, honesty, and truth is not going to bring you anything but hatred in the "exceptional west".
I oppose injustice and oppression wherever it exists including of course inside the U.S. Our main job as Americans is to change the US which as the heart of the empire is responsible for most of the violence in the world and as you point out, treats its own people dispicably.
But at the same time progressives cannot be indifferent to atrocities committed elsewhere, even by forces resisting US imperialism. Iran doesn’t just ban gay marriage but gives the death penalty to gays and lesbians. Women die when abortion is illegal (as it now is in parts of the US as well). That’s not acceptable but in no way weakens my opposition to US intervention .
it does when you're expressing it at the very moment it is also used as an obvious talking point for manufacturing consent for the imperial plans, imo.
Being dishonest about the repressive and misogynistic nature of the regime is not an effective way of building opposition to US imperialism in the heart of the beast. It discredits the Left so we are not believed by the broader population. The point is that US imperialism is not capable of liberating anybody.Recent history - Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. makes that clear. And of course the US has no desire to do so; our rulers are only interested in power, control & robbing other countries of their resources. Instead, they just slaughter civilians and create failed states..
i do not agree. you don't have to bring it up at the moment. it is the way the liberals (not 'left', imo) contribute to supporting the war effort. they did it in afghanistan, in libya, in gaza, ... and venezuela ('unelected dictator'). it is pretty much the 'do you condemn hamas?'-line or the 'the us-empire is clearly violating international law, but ...'-line. i do not think it is dishonest to not mention it spontaneously under the circumstances. liberals discredit themselves with the left and minorities by the rather sudden focus when empire is gearing up for another intervention.
I am NOT a liberal and am on the far Left. I have also been an antiwar activist for decades. I don’t have to like or approve of the government of another country or suppress my criticism of it to unequivocally oppose US intervention. Iran would be in a far better position to fight US imperialism if its government was not authoritarian against its own people and preventing female citizens from fully participating in their society.
Wikipedia includes homosexuality among the offenses for which the death penalty is given, but in a lengthy article full of examples gives only one, and that one is a case of homosexual rape. And lest you think that the article is lax toward Iran's government, note that its second-last sentence reads (at the moment I'm writing): "It is known that at least 488 people have officially been killed during protests in Iran for standing up for what they believe in." - without giving any reference whatsoever to a source. I'll let you decide whether "It is known" is sufficient verification under Wikipedia's standards.
The Iran's Foreign Minister announced 500+ killed.
Whose they? I’m not understanding your question. Of course, we wouldn’t have the mullahs in charge if the US hadnt overthrown its democratically elected government decades ago. But a government that doesn’t discount and suppress half its population will be in a stronger position to fight back.
Why? Large majority of Iranians want the system they have now. Just because rotten genocidal west doesn't like it is not Iranian problem. We have seen western values and their enthusiastic support for genocide of Palestinians. Nothing more to say.
I’m skeptical that the do but in any case the US should stay out.
"Not to love der Führer is a great disgrace
So we heil! (pffft) Heil! (pffft) right in der Fuehrer's face"
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/der-fuehrers-face-spike-jones-trumpussolini
Whom doesn't der Führer love? Big Brother loves you!
My very favorite World War II ditty.
Regime change in Iran would be a fine thing if it happened entirely through internal forces, but that's not happening as long as America and Israel exist.
Iranian government is elected. And why would they have fake democracy and freedoms like in the west.
The only regime change I would cheer for is the one in the US and I am not talking about replacing the warmonger republican with a warmonger democrat, I am talking about getting the foreign lobbies and the military industrial complex outside of Congress
"The strongest faction will be whichever one is backed by the US and its allies."
Of course it will be. There's no way the US and its allies are going to let any other type of government take over Iran that won't let the US steal and pillage all their natural resources and take advantage of their cheap labor market... After all, imperialism can only exist by exploiting and appropriating others' resources. Anyone that goes along with that is by no means a real "leftist" or "anarchist". It's a dead give-away they're just propagandists working for the imperialists.
I think it's safe to say, that the "tyranny" levels in Iran, are GREATLY exaggerated. While CIA, MI-6 and Mossad Media outlets are trying to one-up each other, on their announced (fabricated) body counts, coming out of the riots against the Government - Millions of Iranians hit their streets, in support of their Government. It's not getting any press, because it doesn't jibe with the narrative.
Meanwhile, over the past weekend, a representative from the CIA's Terrorist Army, the MEK, drove a UHAUL truck in a fairly uneventful fashion, through a protest in favor of "Regime Change", being held by the Mossad's Iranian Monarchists.
I'm pretty sure that within Iran, the would-be Persian Prince*, is as unpopular, as the MEK, is.
While both can raise a mob, within the centers of the Empire - they lack popular support within Iran, itself.
The numbers I heard, were in the neighborhood of ~250 Mossad guys, who got rounded-up. It sounds like there's evidence against them, talking with their handlers. Piles of weapons and explosives. If so - it won't go well, for them, nor should it.
Here in America, people tie themselves into knots, trying to justify, as self-defense, a masked official gunman shooting a soccer mom in a minivan in the face. She then gets posthumously labeled a "domestic terrorist", by the Vice President. https://imgflip.com/i/ahbe73
In Iran, it sounds like more than 100 cops have been killed - but we're about to bomb, maybe even invade, in support of the "peaceful protestors" that killed them.
*I actually met him once, at an Iranian auto mechanic's shop in the San Fernando Valley. I thought at the time that he was out of his mind, if he ever had any real expectations of returning to his Peacock Throne...but perhaps I was the fool, it seems.
The present Iranian regime only took power because of a power vacuum left when the US empire’s puppet regime got overthrown. If it falls, the US will take its place. There is no version of this that ends with the Iranian people being free.
As long as the US continues to attempt to dominate and control everyone on Earth, there can only ever be two kinds of countries: those that are subservient vassals to the US, and those that are authoritarian enough to be able to prevent the US from undermining them.
The lesson here is this: the only hope for oppressed people the world over to finally be free is for the United States to die. America is why we can’t have nice things.
Three kinds : there are countries with nothing the USA wants.
The reactions of the compatible Western Left to the Empire's most recent aggressions on Venezuela and Iran are truly revealing.
It's a low bar to condemn genocide if there's still some humanity left in you. Once the targets aren't completely defenseless—or "worse" still, they have a strong state—the same "anti-imperial" lefties all start to chant Arendt's "The Origins of Totalitarianism" like a cult.
Can we stop calling it the US or American Empire?
We all know who the real owners are.
They who shall not be named.
How about USRAEL?
How did the American public become so accepting and docile to the Empire's depredations? Surely brainwashing and propaganda helped contribute to the dismal state of public discourse. It has rendered the public into a babbling mass of trivia spouting zombies, unable to carry on a serious conversation and accepting everything the state has fed them thru the Kool Aid Fountain.
I’ve been quarreling with myself for decades in my quest to be real about reality.
I have come to recognize that I depend on goods and services to which 75% of the people in the world have no access. I am always reminded that I am blessed to live in a place where creature comforts are available to nobodies like myself.
So this is the power of propaganda. White wash the minds of the society of all of the murders and thefts and rapes committed to manifest real power, and the adornments of real wealth, and kill completely any suggestion that the good life is solely the result of lawlessness!
I think there are two distinct ways to confront the inescapable truth of what America is and always was.
Door A is a just government of basically good people has been hijacked by opportunists that only want to grow financially and consolidate their power.
Door B is an exposed and thoroughly irredeemable system of diligent exploitation of people. It began that way and has ever been thus.
No, the absorption of these regimes into the America "empire" weakens us and our democracy. America is better off in a world of strong democracies not weakened dictatorships or states controlled by drug cartels. Sadly those controlling America's government have also fallen into this shallow realpolitik thinking.