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Orwall's writings were supposed to be warnings, not a government playbook!

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Or were they? Sometimes I think the sci-fi writers really are government propagandists in sheep's clothing.

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Jay Dyer has done excellent research and analysis on that very topic for years.

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"Homage to Catalonia," it's a COOK BOOK! I'm wondering if these dead eyed ravening monsters will have to BOTHER, re-submitting resumes as "Worse Than Trump" is installed in 2024, amidst the smoking ruins & rotting carcasses of essentials and death o' disparity deplorables?

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/04/links-4-30-2022.html#comment-3717770

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May 1, 2022·edited May 1, 2022

In the spirit of the Department of Homeland Security’s “If you see something, say something” program, I suggest we all immediately provide DHS with all materials we suspect may be disinformation. For example, I propose we all send a copy of George Orwell's novel, "1984", to the office of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. His snail mail address is:

The Honorable Alejandro Mayorkas

Secretary of Homeland Security

Washington, DC 20528

Include a suitable note. You may wish to request that the book be forwarded to the Disinformation Governance Board Chair (and self-proclaimed Mary Poppins of Disinformation), Nina Jankowicz.

In my note, I will request that "1984" receive immediate review regarding whether the novel contains disinformation, and, if so, that a formal written determination be timely posted to the DHS website so that libraries, book stores, online retailers, and private citizens can take swift and appropriate action.

I will also ask whether other novels, nonfiction books, films, essays, poetry, lyrics, news reports, blog posts, tweets, and other published content--whether online or not--will be subject to review and action by the Disinformation Governance Board. I believe a few thousand copies of Orwell's book (along with our accompanying notes) piling up inside the DHS headquarters will clearly demonstrate our personal patriotic commitments to eradicating the disinformation that threatens our rights and democracy.

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The ministry of truth singing Karen symbolizes the flailing of a collapsing empire.

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I oppose this message on principle.

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I'd change my name. Sorry.

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Being a Zwiebel, I can understand why.

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Good thing you don't appear to have johns problem.

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While Marie Antoinette wanted to give France's peasants cake, our royalty give us egomaniacs with unclever song parodies.

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Apr 30, 2022·edited Apr 30, 2022

What's crazy to me is that I've never seen convincing evidence presented that disinformation is an actual problem. It's like they don't even try to persuade you that Russian disinformation actually exists, or is a problem. We're just supposed to accept it, and swallow a Ministry of Truth unquestioningly.

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It's the "russian" in it that's sufficient. The way "jewish" was in the past century.

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First Amerikan mercenary they acknowledge died a few days ago

They called him a hero....

For following the narrative

A dead hero...

Actually just dead, not a hero, a zero

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I think you just made the case that the pandemic was a dress rehearsal

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Or Trump.

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I fail to see your point

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The whole russiagate brouhaha?

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Back in te Dubya era, those of us even minimally awake thought "homeland, nice crypto-Fascism." "Fatherland, no good, that was Nazi Germany. "Motherland" -- Russia, clearly no good. But "Homeland," perfect, none of the proles will even notice our cleverness. But then they has to go push us to the edge with this Ministry of Truth rubbish. Lasciate Ogni Speranza indeed. I despair at the ponderous leaded center of American consciousness dragging humanity and the biosphere into l'inferno.

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But look on the bright side: These folks have proven exceptional at disseminating disinformation, misinformation, and mal information. Thus, for the first time since its inception, the Department of Homeland Security will include a division employing people with first-rate skills.

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One good thing the media has done is make me question every goddamn thing! Which is up? Which is down?

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yeah i remember michael chertoff, the secretary of homeland security during the height of two wars (afghanistan and iraq), peddling made-in-israhell full body x-ray machines for airports around the world.. wonder what his cut was in that gig he got.

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Apr 30, 2022·edited Apr 30, 2022

Here in California the narrative control over nuclear is ramping up to keep the aged Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant open for an undetermined time. It had been slated for closure and decommissioning a couple of years ago. The very first paragraph from the article today in the San Diego Union-Tribune states that Diablo is the biggest source of electricity in the state which is a bald-faced lie. The largest energy source in California is solar, which has been known now for a decade. No Nukes.

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Best estimate for total solar-generated power in California is 24% which does NOT make it the largest energy source. LOLZ

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Apr 30, 2022·edited Apr 30, 2022

Fair enough. I am wrong about that. From Wikipedia for what it's worth:

Natural gas (47%)

Renewables - Solar (14%)

Renewables - Wind (7%)

Renewables - Other (Geothermal, biomass, etc.) (11%)

Large hydro (11%)

Nuclear (9%)

Certainly it does not mean that the nuclear energy crime syndicate is not full of shit. Our Governor is a spineless noodle and he's playing ball with those fiends. Thanks comrade.

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He's pretty spine-FULL, in a sniveling, suck-up kinda kleptocrat way, actually? He's just on the OTHER side! The list you cite also ignores Coal, Bio-mass, fracked oil & gas (and MORE coal) based electricity from HUGE out of state plants, as reservoirs are replaced by desert gorges, dustbowls & fire storms. Which the trolls referred to as exaggerated fear mongering, 57yrs ago, when API's president gave his "Time is running OUT" speech & Exxon's incredibly accurate chart of AGW atmospheric carbon was well underway (but nobody knew we'd be so desperate, our government & academia so corrupted to FRACK with Schlumberger's admittedly suicidal directional drilled, slick-water high volume BS).

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Applying the word disinformation is being used to imply a lie in order to deceive the recipient. Disinformation has no definition and therefore can be applied to anything the state decides it doesn’t like. Application of the term Disinformation is itself the best indicator of deceptive intent. Lies are lies and facts are facts and Disinformation is neither but instills confusion as intended. Don’t be confused, have faith in your experience, challenge the source to define their claim. We have been and are borrowing money from ourselves calling it QE and lying about its impact on inflation. We have real problems and they are not racism, Ukraine, Russia or transphobia. Our real problems are China who makes everything we depend on, corruption in our own government, a media full of useful idiots with utopian aspirations and an apathetic public too comfortable to be bothered while the house is on fire to help put it out. I’m not religious but I’m thinking we should start praying for the courage to refuse being deceived and call out the liars for their lies.

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Watch How to Start a Revolution DVD documentary and read From Dictatorship to Democracy the book by Dr Gene Sharp.

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Thank you for the references I will definitely check them out.

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The US government can no longer be taken seriously, except to oppose it. It is exactly on a par with its Ukrainian puppet, and the EU/NATO states as well, as exemplified by Boris Johnson and Annalena Bareback (Ms. Trampoline, German Foreign Minister). And Joe Biden. I don't think they even want to be taken seriously. They are telling us (as I have been saying for years): "We have you all by the balls, we don't give a fuck what you think, and this is what you're going to get so just do what you're told or we'll get serious and just obliterate you." The Russians, I think, have received this message and are reacting to it. "We the people" have not. By a long shot. We are still wasting our time trying to be reasonable and argue with facts and logic. This just won't work, and I think the "deep message" that the "Deep State" has for us is that we had better realize that before they show us what it is really like to live in a totalitarian -- the totalitarian -- state.

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"We are still wasting our time trying to be reasonable and argue with facts and logic" - and they actively maintain that that's the only way for the sheeple to go. On par with "always smile".

The problem is there is absolutely nothing one can do. And it's taking very long for the people in the West to finally realize it.

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Not one but maybe many. If we can do it before the nukes are launched.

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I knew it was 'this bad' and worse. So much worse.

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I'm having trouble getting past "for once it's for a pretty good reason." People on both the left and the right have been making comparisons to 1984 for quite a while now, and they've had good reasons for doing so before now. Any society that restricts speech, either directly or by twisting the arms of private companies to do so for them, is fair game for such criticisms. And even if you don't like Donald Trump, remember that if they can kick a former president off of a platform that's become as necessary as the telephone, they can do it to anybody. Any "rightist" objecting to that is somebody I have more in common with ideologically than I do with shitlibs who cheer on censorship and are somehow still considered "leftists".

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Exactly. There really is no political right or left at the point. There are only people who believe in the founding documents and those who do not.

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May 1, 2022·edited May 1, 2022

I also got hung up on that. The rightists are blind to their own deficiencies, and want us all to forget their atrocious anti-civil liberties and pro-war positions throughout the Bush and Obama eras. But they're generally dead on target when criticizing the left.

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Twitter is as necessary as a telephone? I’ve never used Twitter and don’t feel the need to.

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Alex Jones was the canary in the coal mine. And most of the things he has been saying for the last 20+ years have either come to pass or are coming to pass now.

Ignore him at your peril.

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Alex Jones was a perfect test case, as he is a loon that no respectable person wanted to be seen defending.

This made him a perfect precedent for banning of more substantive voices.

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You say AJ is a loon. You’re certainly entitled to your own opinion but you’re not entitled to your own facts. Where are you getting this idea that he is a loon? The media?

AJ was warning about globalists 20 years ago. He has been proven right. He was right about COVID and 100% about the jabs. He probably saved a lot of lives speaking out against the jabs, even before they were really available.

He was spot in about George Bush, he was correct about Bohemian Grove and in time I’m sure will be proven right about 9/11, it was an inside job.

If you’re interested go watch an old Joe Rogan podcast with him on it any are still available. Especially the latest one where Joe stops him every 5 minutes to fact check him. Alex is 100%.

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He may not be a loon in a clinical sense but he is perceived as such for the ends that matter.

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Yea, and this makes it easier to navigate the world. Anyone who says Jones is a loon or [insert favorite epithet] should be ignored as they are either ignorant, a propagandist or are willfully parroting propaganda.

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Alex Jones is right about some things and wrong about others. But I believe the future of humanity depends on accepting Jones' basic framing of reality - that our leaders are psychopaths. A critical mass of people need to wake up to that fact for humanity to get off its current trajectory towards annihilation.

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It's all in the name, and you couldn't give the plot away more candidly than with a name like "Disinformation Governance Board". Really? I mean, R-e-al-l-l-y ? JHC. The same goes for Nina Jankowicz. You might as well name POTUS the DUFUS and throw in the towel.

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the Disinfo Governance Board will govern the proper application of disinformation for government purposes. They are actually being quite frank!

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The amount of outrage, faux and real, over the Disinformation Governance Board is disquieting. Calling it the Ministry of Truth and poking fun at the shiny object at the top is tantamount to calm acceptance on the way to the slaughter. This has to be stopped ~ but how?

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At least there's a target now. As Caitlin states, everything the Disinformation Governance Board is going to do was already being done behind the scenes. Now we have a target. A federal board tasked with being the arbiter of truth and signaling to private companies what to censor will not withstand First Amendment scrutiny. And fortunately the Supreme Court still has a conservative majority. Hopefully the Board goes down in flames with a robust decision that would also curtail the more subtle forms of government censorship.

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You think it's fortunate that the Supreme Court is mostly conservative? No, they won't support the First Amendment; they're much more likely to support the status quo.

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The status quo is that the government doesn’t get to be the arbiter of truth. While the battle over tech censorship involves many novel issues, the Ministry of Truth does not. It’s mission is to flagrantly violate the First Amendment. Conservatives shouldn’t stand for it, and I don’t think they will.

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No how. I wonder how long will it take for folks to realize that they never had any power ever. Only an illusion in the form of some power at some local levels carrying no threat to the system.

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Watch How to Start a Revolution DVD documentary and read From Dictatorship to Democracy the book. This is how.

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👍 Just downloaded the NOOK book...

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I wonder if this is in response to Musk’s purchase of Twitter who wants free speech.

Who will now, by law, be at the hand of the government for censorship.

We’ll see if he actually has the cajones to stand up against the UStapo

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Don't hold your breath. Musk would not be allowed to buy Twitter,if the fix were not already in.

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Good observation!

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