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Badbard Poetry's avatar

What a dreadful pass we have come to where cheats and liars rule the roost, while our politicians blindly jostle to shove their snouts in the trough.

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liz's avatar

And, of course, when enough people believe the lie, the lie becomes the truth, and the truth becomes the lie; so propaganda is always well worth the effort.

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John Allen aka The Ol' Hippy's avatar

I miss The Weekly World News rag, pure bullshit, but at least we knew it actually was a Twilight Zone version of Mad magazine. We have Alex Jones and his ilk filling that void today. Peace.

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you do realize that the "new media" is censoring information on the covidiot scamdemic and the covidiot clot shots right...asking because you never mention it for some strange reason...did you get the clot shot? I pray you didnt allow them to jab your kids...

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Any post's comment section wouldn't be complete without your stopping by to advise us for the thousandth time about "covidiot scamdemic". I start wondering if you did take a shot after all. Or two. Not necessarily of Pfizer/Moderna kind.

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well since Caitlin NEVER mentions it someone had to...you should be thanking me...now go get your monkey pox jab....https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/76789-deaths-6089773-injuries-reported-in-u-s-and-european-databases-following-covid-19-vaccines/

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russian_bot's avatar

"monkey pox jab" - thanks, I'm not in the risk group.

I'm genuinely curious though - do you think you're providing the valuable service by spamming the forum with the same links over and over?

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rich's avatar

just trying to wake up the indoctrinated ... apparently you wish to remain that way...now go get that fifth booster wise guy

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John Allen aka The Ol' Hippy's avatar

If one writes anti-*vaccine* truths on Medium, one risks being "cancelled, as I most certainly was in December '21, losing over four years worth of material. Things only "live forever" on the 'net till they're deemed subversive, and in my case Medium being funded by Big Pharma about 20% of their operating budget. Hopefully Substack doesn't suffer the same fate.

Sure it's easier staying within the fold, but at what cost? Peace

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rich's avatar

sorry about your medium getting pulled...I just post comments until I get 86'd...the truth must get out or were all dead...like this...https://www.bitchute.com/video/rHmg8EY3cXPD/

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Oh... Some on the left do get it... Kim Iversen, Max Blumenthal, Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand, Joe Rogan until he was threatened, and many who were deplatformed, demonetized, shadow banned, maligned, unfriended, and called a crazy right-winger.

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

Don’t forget Brett Weinstein too.

Rogan though is a complete putz. In it for the gold, nothing more

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Deaths counted included from and with Co, tests gave false positives, NO early treatment except from doctors who had the integrity and were threatened and maligned (like the FLCCC and one in Houston who treated 2000 and did not lose a one), isolation in hospitals from love, FEAR, the FDA and Pf tried to hide trial data for 75 years, lies about the effectiveness of natural immunity and other cheap drugs, CENSORSHIP of anyone who questioned the Narrative, lies like get the jab and you will NOT get it or transmit it... I write with one finger on my phone. Maybe I will get to the data manipulation later. For their control of us and PROFIT...

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

I do not understand why most of the real left all of a sudden (fear) decided to trust criminal big pharma, captured regulatory agencies the WHO and MSM. At first I believed the narrative. Then I began seeing red flags. Having done sociological research I saw the data manipulation. Did any of you read the Great Barrington Declaration written by pros from Stanford, Oxford and Harvard if I remember correctly, signed by a million people, tens of thousands of medical pros and scientists. I will do a quick list of red flags...

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

I never said it is not a real virus (didn't you read my comments?) though probably genetically modified like the vaccines. They had to change the definition of vaccine so they could even call them that.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

The reason it's super important is because it is the weapon to gain complete control and complete wealth transfer. Already we have monkey pox.

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

The virus “killed millions” eh? And how do you know this?

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

Intuitively true eh? Again, how is this intuitive? What data are you using to provide such intuition?

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

are you not at all familiar with the lies regarding climate change? the lies regarding vaccines (pre-covid), WMD etc. Are you not at all familiar with those truth-tellers at the Imperial College of London (ICL) and Neil Ferguson's fanciful predictions of virus's pre-Covid which lead to the mass slaughtering of pigs and other animals?

I assume not.

But hopefully, when some of the damn health "experts" say we're counting EVERY DAMN DEATH as a Covid death as long as the person who died had Covid, you'd say, "wow, that's weird." And challenge the idea of all these Covid deaths.

Die from a motorcycle accident? He had covid so it's a Covid-related death.

Hospitals get paid more for Covid patients, no incentive there at all. They're honest brokers, no doubt.

Trust me, man, I was the biggest believer in George W Bush's damn Iraq/Afghanistan war back in the day. Almost re-upped myself to go fight over there so they don't get us over here. Thankfully I didn't now that I know these guys lie about everything. EVERYTHING. and they give two craps the dead bodies they climb over.

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rich's avatar

there is NO virus...even Dr. Michael Yeadon...a "virologist" who worked for Pfizer...just stated there is NO respiratory virus...the reason this is important is that if they can keep the virus myth alive they can continue their plandemic scams...like monkey pox...and then push their "cures"...like vaccines...making billions off the scam....https://www.bitchute.com/video/rHmg8EY3cXPD/

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june tenth's avatar

but can you explain why "they" let millions die -- instead of killing millions by unleashing manmade virus as a biological weapon -- with mandated "faulty" shots? what is their agenda?

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june tenth's avatar

if they increased their wealth by "letting" millions die as they planned, how are they inept?

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rich's avatar

the shots have issues? that is the understatement of the year...you are ignoring the only people who see whats really going on...you have been indoctrinated with fearmongering propaganda...the same propaganda Johnstone is always writing about...I'm sure youre gonna get the new vax for the "monkey pox" cuz its real man...https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/76789-deaths-6089773-injuries-reported-in-u-s-and-european-databases-following-covid-19-vaccines/

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

100% Rich. Many of the same people who I’m aligned with on the idiocy of the Defense industry are heavy, HEAVY, into the Covid panic and narrative.

The same damn government they don’t trust for anything else they trust for Covid propaganda.

It’s crazy actually. Especially when numerous authorities have stated that if you die and happened to have Covid you are a Covid death.

Nuts to all that

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John Allen aka The Ol' Hippy's avatar

When "navigating" the dank realms of capital funded, and the generating capacity of capital to the "establishment's" coffers, one gets the uncanny feeling of seeing what lab rats must endure to keep living in a nightmare. The nastiness of the big Pharma's generating capacity of capital knows no bounds, Thereby poisoning countless millions(billions?) with mRNA without any recourse of action. Congress gave pharma a free pass--they are not liable one iota for unforeseen consequences that may ensue. They are advocating that children even younger than 5 be a subject for these cruel experiments. Parents" DON'T, only a few real cases of Covid deaths can be blamed on the c-virus. The biggest hoax of all. Worldwide experiments of biological human agents on the most vulnerable-- a hideous example of capital generation at work. I need a shower. Peace, The Ol' Hippy

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rich's avatar

dude what are you talking about? did you read the article I gave you? did you get the covidiot jab? are you gonna get the "monkey pox" jab? stop with the gibberish already

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

The flu virus is real and can be severe for some.

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rich's avatar

there is no "virus"... flu or otherwise....its a myth perpetrated to promote fear as to push drugs and vaccines...https://www.bitchute.com/video/rHmg8EY3cXPD/

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russian_bot's avatar

Keep going, rich. I've found my comic relief character without leaving Caitlin's forum.

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rich's avatar

now you just need to find a brain

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

When you are censored and lose family and friends and jobs because you DISAGREE with the lies repeated ad nauseum on MSM you will understand why we want debate and for people to at least know what the "other side" is saying.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

BTW... What I wrote above is the tip of the iceberg.

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John Allen aka The Ol' Hippy's avatar

One must self-censor, keep the 'real' within yourself or lose the ones that mostly, enrich one's life. If not, a lonely existence is at hand. Peace

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John Allen aka The Ol' Hippy's avatar

The conjurers of media control have become so enmeshed within their own spin that they, too, believe their own lies; and, sadly, we mostly believe the bullshit they feed us. It takes quite an effort to break free of the "narrative". It can be frightening at first--leaving the fold of "normality", conforming to the masses, but after the discomforting uncanny feeling of uncertainty, one is freed of their fold and can see the illusions that "normality entails and bring a sense of profound freedom at last. It's scary but well worth it.

Back in the '60's as I was growing up conformity was all the rage, still is really, I was labeled a child that "needed" more stringent control methods. So I put on a persona of normality , all while straying outside their rigidity of "normal" internally, and hence, have marched to my own inner drummer--freedom as is meant to be.

We're losing our own and newer generation's of freedom--the internet--as silicone valley tries to control the beast they unleashed, a beast with unexpected consequences. Let's not lose this asset. Peace, The Ol' Hippy

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

My search for truth led me on a path of self realization to freedom. I know, am, trust and love myself. Since I am nomadic I am okay with being alone and different. I finally let go of what my family thinks and just love them mostly from afar.

I can no longer use labels like left or right. I think and feel intuitively for myself on world events. Though it looks dark, when one finds whatever you want to call it inside you know everything is bigger and more mysterious than it seems and All is Well.

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T. Paine's avatar

At this point can’t we just accept that we are being lied to by Google, Meta, Twitter, MSM, all being directed by our bureaucratic machine? Anyone who can listen to the obvious blatant lies being thrust on us daily and refuse to accept the danger it represents has become simply a useful idiot. Anyone who refuses to THINK these lies are isolated to what’s obvious has been infected with a powerful psychological decease that appears to be incurable and may be fatal.

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Fitzjames Wood's avatar

Soon writers/bloggers/etc.. will have to assume new identities to conceal who they are like the Cato letters or Benjamin Franklin's, Mrs. Silence Dogood....

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

Great research on Caitlin's part, once more. The surveillance and propaganda apparatus has been so long a feature of N American life that it is now imperceptible to a great many people. The rule should be: believe nothing without thorough research and confirmation from non- government or non-government affiliated sources. But change might come about if conditions on the ground get much worse: the cost of living for most ordinary people is almost prohibitive: it will take more than talk and rumour to make that go away.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

I prefer the scriptural "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied three times."

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russian_bot's avatar

"But change might come about if conditions on the ground get much worse" - exactly. And not because someone understood something. It's because they start feeling it in their stomachs.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

The whole Covid and vaccine issue is a scandal and a mess. But Caitlin can't tackle everything at the same time. And the issue is fraught with possible lawsuits and gag orders. She has to make choices, and their all difficult.

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rich's avatar

she cant tackle everything? are you kidding? she writes almost everyday about propaganda but never mentions the friggin scamdemic propaganda? the whole Covid and vaccine issue is a scandal and a mess.... but she completely ignores it? they are friggin killing people and now pushing their clot shots on children...based on lies...whats more important to expose than this?...https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/76789-deaths-6089773-injuries-reported-in-u-s-and-european-databases-following-covid-19-vaccines/

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rich's avatar

the 800 pound gorilla in the living room...phantom viruses...invented by phony "virologists" to use for nefarious purposes...like creating fake pandemics and then providing the vaccines to "protect" us from them...https://www.bitchute.com/video/rHmg8EY3cXPD/

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

I wonder what Morris Bealle and Ida Honoroff would say about Chomsky?

Bet it would be brutal, and yet they were FAR from rigjt-wingers.

To have the liberals of yesteryear back would be a most wonderful thing.

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Josh Scandlen's avatar

The same Chomsky who is a shill for the CDC.

“People who don’t vaccinate should be removed from society. “

Even though I was always on the anti-vax train the last two years have been an eye opener about who is a true liberal and Chomsky ain’t one.

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bill wolfe's avatar

I would add another dimension to this analysis - it seems to me that the control of information and ability to spin propaganda and suppress competing narratives is assisted by intimidation of conscientious employees, whistleblowers, and scientists. That happens via employment and funding.

Careerism rules and there are harsh prices to pay for speaking out (Assange is the example for journalists). Whistleblowers are destroyed professionally, financially, and often emotionally. Even making internal waves these days is career suicide.

And as your piece illustrates, government funding of NGO's is. a big part of the propaganda program.

But so it the blackballing of the few people on the inside in the know who speak out.

Been there and done that - and it's why I now live in an old schoolbus!

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Stephen Keilty's avatar

If the government approves, you know you're getting shafted.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

I agree with you 110%. But Caitlin doesn't ignore anything. She condemns abuse of power, which is power, generally, these days, and I'm sure she will get round to it.

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Merfy Mac's avatar

Caitlin and Alan,

sitting in a tree,

k-i-s-s-i-n-g

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rich's avatar

the latest numbers for deaths...injuries...from the Covid clot shots...Caitlin refuses to even mention this....WHY?....https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/76789-deaths-6089773-injuries-reported-in-u-s-and-european-databases-following-covid-19-vaccines/

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june tenth's avatar

documenting the crimes and criminals against humanity is important, so that they will be held accountable later. it's a little exasperating to document and "prove", though, while the same criminals (or their logical and obvious proteges) are committing more ,and more heinous, crimes at the moment. the perspective, and its logical generalization, is critical and must be sufficient therefore to act on. do we need more and new documenting the same rot in academia? in medico-pharmaceutical industry? in MIC? in unholywood? no. nonetheless, i twit, forward and share mint press, this blog, whitney webb, grayzone, and glenn greenwald as much as i can, perhaps because i have to confirm that there are more us than them out there.

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