I think it's about time a good (logical, moral, and valid) case can be made for the non-existence of Israel, Zionism, supporters of Israel, and supporters of Genocide.
IMHO, the atrocities of the Zionists (and their supporters) is MUCH WORSE than everything I know from history about the Nazi Regime.
The only question that remains (in my mind) is -> WHO (what country, entities, organizations, coalitions, etc.) will be able to take up this task (of ridding the world of these Zionists that have been spat up from HELL) successfully? (Rehabilitation is preferred, but I wonder if many of these people and their Western-backers are too far gone for that to work).
According to former CIA intelligence agent Larry Johnson, Isra-Hell was two weeks from a total surrender to Iran. Iran bombed strategic chock points of Isra-Hell and severely crippled the Nation. Is this the real reason why Trump called for an Iran/Isra-Hell ceasefire?
Former CIA agents Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern on Judging Freedom explain, how Satan's Chosen People picked the wrong fight and desperately needed Big Brother to step in and call timeout.
Note - Moloch was a god of fire to whom parents threw their children to be burned alive ........ sounds on a par with our billionaire-haunted planet to me.
Verified by whom? You sound like a bigot to me. Not interested in "debating" the Holocaust, any more than I am interested in "debating" the genocide in Gaza.
The metaphor is the action that is coming created by the world. israel (forever lowercase) is finished financially and now what's coming because this won't end until there is only Palestine remaining. Sadly it has taken far to long and that is because of people like me holding out hope the West and the Un would stop this and they only enabled it. First the religious state of israel will be dissolved and then the UN. Something new for all people will be created out equality is my dream.
You speak as if the regime occupying Palestine is some kind of sovereign state, separate from the Empire. I agree a breakup is overdue, but there is no separating the two. Just because the Emperor’s garrison in occupied Palestine has a name doesn’t mean that focusing on it solves anything. Yes, it’s a depressingly difficult task, but you can’t simply cut off a tentacles, they just grow back.
It’s the body and head of the Empire that must be tamed, not just one of its offending limbs. Dismantling the Empire would dismantle the Zionist regime in occupied Palestine, it would also cut off arms to the Azov Nazis in Ukraine, and it would no doubt bring much-needed relief to many nations where the Empire's agents nurture chaos.
This Empire has had its tentacles all over the planet, the Contras in Nicaragua, separatists in Taiwan, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan who later re-emerged and transformed into al-Qaeda and the Taliban. And let’s not forget the terrorist regime that took over parts of Syria, or the killers-for-hire the Empire employs to rob and murder starving Palestinians as they are corralled like livestock into so-called aid distribution centers.
As you correctly asked, who, or what country or entity, could bring about such a reality? The answer is none. Oh, there will be more battles, perhaps in Taiwan, perhaps in the Balkans. Estonia’s population is 20% native Russian, so they will no doubt be targeted. And I don’t think NATO has completely given up on dragging Georgia into the alliance. But as for a breakup of America, it’s unlikely without catastrophic upheaval, and it would have to come from within, not from outside.
The problem is, the majority of Americans are too accustomed to the creature comforts and willful ignorance of their Empire’s destructive nature. So I suspect the world will just become increasingly divided as the Empire struggles to hold on. The U.S., Canada, the UK, the EU, Australia, and New Zealand will likely form a “White Alliance.” The South Koreans and Japanese will I hope wake up soon, these sad souls really believe they are part of the West, but only they think that. No North American, European, or Australian considers them part of the superior white race.
The greatest turmoil may come in Spain, Italy, Greece, and Turkey, nations with deep roots and cultural ties to the Arab world. These ties may pull them in conflicting directions. The USA has already staked their claim to the Panama Canal, but the Suez will be more difficult to seize.
America will build its walls higher, Europe will dig a moat around its precious garden, and Australia and New Zealand will panic. But in truth if they just stopped joining in with America’s insanity, they would be just fine.
If the Africans and Latino nations can get their acts together, they will be be just fine, they have plenty of natural resources and fertile land, but can they wrestle of empires strangle hold?
Yes, its another long rant, there was so much I needed to vent, and CJ is one of the few who does not require payment for commenting, I don`t agree with her focus on Israel, but I applaud her for allowing all to freely comment, she is one sadly one of few who truley supports discourse without having pay to have a say.
>>"You speak as if the regime occupying Palestine is some kind of sovereign state, separate from the Empire."
tre peperoncini, seems like you're bored, just like to argue uselessly, or just like killing time.
If you read ANY of my comments on substack, you would know what I really think of the U.S. Empire. You would know of the forces 'pulling the strings'. You would know about the U.S. Empire being the largest 'state sponser' of terrorism and regime change operations globally.
End of Discussion, you say? News for you my friend, this is no discussion. You can go silent if you wish, but I still have plenty more rants to expel, thank-you for helping me bring them out, but please don`t be mistaken that I write these rants just for your displeasure. I would have messaged you directly if it were.
Yes, I do not read ALL the comments, but I read this one, and it bothered me, so. Maybe I am bored, bored to rant because of the causal attention afforded the fleeting mention its "western backers" . They are not backers they are root of this evil regime.
Its American and European citizens who rushed to join the IDF so that they too could rape and murder and dress in the lingerie of dead Palestinians. It`s American and European money, It`s American and European weapons, It`s America that and Europe have for decades nurtured the regime and its offspring, convinced them that they are divine, superior , that they may rape , pillage, bomb others with impunity.
If my reminding anyone of this is annoying, or bothersome than maybe you need to ask yourselves why?
Tragically, the racists are armed with something infinitely more empowering than weapons. Money. They have already deployed it to annex the politicians. Plus: it is worth remembering, they consider anyone who is not eligible to become a citizen of Netanyahus openly apartheid, religiously discriminating 'Nation state of Jews only' a 'subhuman animal'. Fit only to be stolen from and slaughtered. No empathy, no sympathy, no shred of human feeling. Ready to make all the world into Gaza - see the Hannibal Directive - if their bullying genocide proves ineffective. Then, to money and overt racism, add the utter gormlessness of idiot religious brainwashing. The cretinous Huckabee belief in the rightness of an end-times apocalypse, the selfish consigning of all humanity to hell so that a selfish few can be raptured, the unshakeable conviction that idiot religious superstition makes some people worth more than others, that obliterating decency and civilisation is doing god's work. So Zionists have extreme wealth, proud racism, and religious lunacy all working for them. As well as, of course, the western politicians who'll do anything for a buck. Oh, and I almost forgot: they also control the media. They have prepared well. They see no need to be 'rehabilitated' because - as Israel's newest tactic, contaminating food relief with deadly drugs, as well as openly murdering the civilians who queue for it - plainly shows, they are vicious, and shameless, and have the morals of a virus. It is absolutely awful but until decent people are as revolted by Zionism as Zionism, as part of its strategy, encouraged ordinary people to feel about Islam, they will feel not the slightest incentive to behave with anything besides blind, genocidal, disgusting selfishness.
I like one piece of this, something I've said but not seen mentioned elsewhere--that this End Times Rapture cult is incredibly selfish, along with being based on absurdity (it's supposed to be biblically based but is actually based on one interpretation of a long rant full of symbols apparently written by a 90 year old man a couple thousand years ago). These are the people who claim to be Christian but embrace "prosperity gospel" which is essentially the opposite of Jesus' teachings, and claim that their deeds don't matter, that they get to be the only people ever to go to Heaven without dying first, and all they have to do is recite an incantation: "I take the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior." And then eat popcorn while watching the rest of us on Earth suffering through its destruction, administered in part by a new, vicious Jesus. They also think one of the signs will be the appearance of the Antichrist who will be a good-looking, charismatic European, who is in favor of peace and environmental protection. So be wary of anyone like that, and embrace politicians that favor war and destruction. I can't imagine a more toxic ideology.
Agreed. That appearance to them is Genocide Don as many of those groups suggest. If we think about it, the Nobel Peace Prize would be one of those deeds of the Anti-Christ, world peace. Thankfully Iran put and end to that so far. Now IF only Iran finishes this nightmare quickly as we know the Genocide powers have not stopped this war on Palestine/Iran/Lebanon/Syria etc. Hopefully the Zionists run to the light when israel chooses it's end in that Neutron glow in the heart of israel. Sampson Option brought to you by the Anti-Christ.
Seroiously? The Nazis did some pretty atrocious stuff - Fascists always do - they're bullies and sexual perverts. It's not a competition - the world can get along much better without fascism (and its parent company, "free" market capitalism).
Heard about the Israelis anally gang raping Palestinians? To death? Whilst filming themselves? In torture centres? Targeting medics? Heard about them deliberately starving a captive population, then drugging the flour they do allow in with oxycodone, then opening fire on desperate civilians who posed no threat? Heard about them leaving premature babies to die in their incubators when they forced the evacuation of a hospital at gunpoint? Heard any good things, at all, ever, about the behaviour of Israeli racist thug bullies? Anything? Ever? At all? Apparently, for Israelis, it is indeed a competition, and one they are applying themselves with brutal, subhuman diligence to winning.
IMO, the Israeli Zionists are unmatched in their evil - not even the Nazis can compare. The bar on evil has been raised (or lowered) (as horrible as it sounds, I can't help but say this).
There are all kinds of fascists and different levels of fascism. This is not about Fascism per se. This is about the Zionist regime in Israel (and their primary backers in the U.S.).
Yes, this is about Capitalism, but it is MUCH MORE than that.
Neither capitalism, fascism, nor Nazism seem to come close to the actions of the Israelis (and I say this subjectively and in all sincerity with sufficient knowledge of history of fascism, capitalism, and Nazism).
We weren't alive during WW2 and not were the atrocities documented so widely and so visibly. As Jennifer says, it's not a competition. Though it is indeed difficult to imagine any evil more profound, it's perhaps unhelpful to focus on this aspect. I have to constantly check myself from the debilitating disease of pure hatred. It's not healthy for me, and it doesn't help the victims either. Evil is evil and all evil must be stopped, held accountable, punished and learned from. It's that last bit we humans seem to find so difficult.
Must be my need to have things simplified, but I think you are nitpicking evil. Would agree however in that Israel represents a first in a genocide committed by the descendents of victims of a genocide. Zionists seem to have an active wish to rid themselves of the tag of "victim" by actively being perpetrators. This is a new development, and a profoundly sick one.
So are you suggesting the execution of millions of people--if not hundreds of millions all over the globe--for disagreeing with you on this? Yes, "this" is the perpetration of a holocaust, a morally indefensible position--but still. So is this proposition. But executing the state of Israel? I'd call that overdue. If it ever had a right to exist it has forfeited such right. The country should be renamed Palestine, and any Jews there who can't live in harmony with their Arab, Muslim or Christian neighbors should leave. Looks like that would be upward of 90%. I see no need for the remaining Palestinians to repay them for the homes and things they leave behind--they paid the natives nothing for what they seized in the Nakba.
I was going to write something my friend. After reading your thoughts, they are mine. I have never liked to think hurting someone was the only way to peace however, I was wrong and know with your help I see what needs to be done as a path to peace not just for Palestine but for the world. We my friend will share coffee in the New Palestine, a country of peace.
This Ha’aretz article is a watershed moment. At least it should be. Testimony of genocide by the people committing genocide. What more evidence does the world need? We have the videos of the killings. Now we have the confessions of the killers. Any country that fails to take concrete action against the countries committing genocide—US/UK/Germany/Israel—is by default a criminal state.
Stephen Walker, the countries you mention - US/UK/Germany/Israel (and more) have ALWAYS been criminal states - think about the atrocities committed by the British Empire, the Nazi Regime, and the U.S. Empire (which is in a class all its own).
Unfortunately, the world seems to be made up of 'Criminal States' (big and small). Have humans ALWAYS been like this throughout history? Do we even know enough of the REAL history of humanity (or howmuchever of it has survived)?
Will the 'flaws of homosapiens' lead to their extinction and hopefully a better, more evolved species might arise from the ashes? I am hopeful...too bad I won't be alive for another million years to find out...
Modern technology has facilitated the current levels of destruction and depravity. Two thousand years ago, it was much more difficult to cause buildings to collapse upon their residents. Archers were not as accurate as modern snipers at distances of a thousand yards.
The trench warfare in the battlefields of WWI were horrific but generally did not grind up civilians.
The scientifically orchestrated firebombing of noncommittal civilians during WWII, by British and American forces, did change the game. During the illegal invasions of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the US forces dropped enormous amounts of ordnance upon civilians.
>>"Modern technology has facilitated the current levels of destruction and depravity."
💯 Like I've said before, human evolution has been unable to keep pace with the changes in science and technology. Our political systems lag behind, our legal systems lag behind, our economic systems lag behind, and our social systems lag behind.
Our fascination with technology (especially when it comes to the BIG-TECH industry) definitely seems to hasten our undoing.
Will humanity be able to wake up in time to understand the consequences of its 'love affair' with technology and its impact on human societies?
And yet the bible praises for Joshua, for killing 12,000 people in a single day. (Joshua 8:25) Even these modern Israelis with all their modern weapons haven’t managed to reach that level. Of course, they do have the weapons with which to do so. Perhaps, instead of its being called the Samson Option, it should be called the Joshua Option.
Isn’t it incredible that people worship this kind of slaughter in something they call their holy book? Genocide for some has long been normalized.
The Bible was written by some politicians over a period of hundreds of years. Joshua led a select group of possibly 5,000 soldiers out of maybe 30,000 to slaughter the 12,000 victims. Whether that actually happened during one day or several days or ever is a matter of conjecture, but the narrative gave license to future generations to commit genocide.
The Americans killed millions of indigenous peoples over a period of a century or so. The Turks slaughtered a million or million-and-a-half Armenians in the early 20th Century without any “weapons of mass destruction”, and still deny doing so.
Any and all religious leaders who support genocide are hypocrites, and they are plentiful.
There is a something important you are leaving out. The evils you name do not represent What Humanity Is. We had hundreds of thousands of years of mostly peaceful, egalitarian tribes living in harmony with their ecosystems. But once the Holocene enabled agriculture, which in turn enabled some tribes to evolve into little empires led by chieftains and kings, growing steadily by vanquishing neighbors, a dynamic set in wherein the aggressive culture nearly always won conflicts with peaceful defenders, and thus expanded to, by now, virtually the entire planet. It is very much like cancer.
After my sister died of cancer, I decided to learn something about it. I read a book mostly focused on advances in treatment, but found two facts I hadn't known that I think very interesting in light of this metaphor. One is that a cancer can redirect blood vessels toward itself, to feed its growth. The other is that a cancer can evolve resistance to chemotherapy drugs that once inhibited it. Another thing that fits the metaphor I already knew: the most successful cancer dies when it succeeds to the point it kills its host. Here you can look on the host as either humanity, colonized by the cancerous ideology of domination, or our ecosystems, which are a few decades from death if we keep up Business As Usual which there are no signs of deviation from.
So don't hope for human extinction to kill the virus--hope instead that we finally figure out how to contain and extinguish the domination culture. The problem is that those willing to use violence to seize land and resources have a great edge over those who'd rather cooperate. Caitlin is banking on mass enlightenment as the cure--I'm skeptical of that but haven't lost hope.Mine is based on the notion that when the inevitable crash comes, it will allow a massive reckoning, and survivors will craft a better culture/religion/cosmology, perhaps led by remaining indigenous people.
The Eurocolonial empire has been robbing and dispossessing and mass mudering "others" on this planet since the 1500s. The "other", whether the South Africans, Kenyans, Algerians, Palestinians, or whatver,.....is always framed as a threat and the Eurocolonial masses are always willing to believe whatever story it is, no matter how absure.
♦️This feature length investigation by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit exposes Israeli war crimes in the #GazaStrip through the medium of photos and videos posted online by Israeli soldiers themselves during the year long war
Only say "Zionist entity." I would like to see everyone who gives a name to that entity be required to read out (Auslesen) every name of every child martyred in Gaza before they sleep again.
The demented Joe Biden publicly identified himself as a Zionist throughout the several decades of his political career. Every politician — hundreds of them — who has proclaimed Israel’s right to defend itself must also be required to recognize and speak the name of each and every victim/martyr of Israel’s “right to defend itself”.
OMG - the nightmare just keeps getting worse and worse and worse! Where are leaders of conscience who will stop this demented madness. The level of
cruelty being done by the Zionist Israelis to Gazans - which includes Christians, Jews, Muslims and secular women, men, babies and elderly - far surpasses anything done by the Nazis.
The Nazis 'just' increasingly efficiently killed Disabled, Catholic then the Jewish people.
The sadistic, demented Israeli Zionists seem to do whatever to maximize horror.
I am not aware of communist involvement in Middle East/Palestine/Israel. Please elaborate. Also saw no indication of it when there - so again - please elaborate.
i suspect indu meant in your list of nazi-victims. communist, social democrats, trade unionists were some of the first and most targeted by the nazi-regime.
armed factions of dflp and pflp are marxist-leninist organisations actively involved in armed resistance in gaza. my guess is that they (and their families) would also be targeted by the idf.
mint press' telegram mentions israeli settlers burning down the christian town taybeh (all-christian population) in the west bank.
"far surpasses anything done by the Nazis" - today many in the forum reveal their excellent knowledge of atrocities committed by the German Nazis and their European collaborators.
Hint: if you choose not to believe it, it's not just Holocaust that took place back then.
Sorry Genocide Don walked all that lie about dropping sanctions back. The reason Iran did not thank him for bombing them. Yes he did as insane as that sounds. Of course why would anyone believe a word from that Monster, Genocide Don.
I'm just trying to get from the forum generals a clear assessment that Iran could go toe to toe militarily with the combined Israel/US/West and somehow chooses not to.
During the illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the US government hired private mercenaries to conduct some of the most dastardly deeds — actions that the Regular Army soldiers would not be inclined to commit.
The 'mastermind' is/are the system(s), the humans are the actors on the stage of civilization performing their acts and playing their roles for all the world to see.
We can, at least, identify some of the masterminds including the deceased Theodor Herzl and Lord Rothschild. Contributors include every POTUS since Harry Truman and their UK counterparts. The billionaires who own the mass media are also part of the system. AIPAC is a fundamental player on the mastermind team.
Nothing clever about it. The systems within which humans operate (and exists and survive) create the incentives for the behaviors and actions of the participants within it.
This is the part I don't get: surely the Jews in Israel backing this genocide have heard the term "moral injury" in the context of soldiers and war. Surely they understand the horrific moral injury they are inflicting on their own people, their own children in the IDF committing these atrocities? Have none of them ever encountered a vet with PTSD? How can they condone this sacrifice of their own people's humanity?
I disagree with Caitlyn here: people with actual consciences wouldn’t commit the mass murderous atrocities in the first place, even if they spill their ugly guts to a journalist later, and then only place blame on commanders.
Part of me agrees with you. But how hard must it be if a commander has a gun pointed at you, and you are already programmed to believe you're exterminating vermin? I can't imagine everything allowing myself into that situation but by the law of averages, some 'soldiers' will be less evil than others. Perhaps it is within these, where there's the possibility of a conscience, where hope lies...
I think it's about time a good (logical, moral, and valid) case can be made for the non-existence of Israel, Zionism, supporters of Israel, and supporters of Genocide.
IMHO, the atrocities of the Zionists (and their supporters) is MUCH WORSE than everything I know from history about the Nazi Regime.
The only question that remains (in my mind) is -> WHO (what country, entities, organizations, coalitions, etc.) will be able to take up this task (of ridding the world of these Zionists that have been spat up from HELL) successfully? (Rehabilitation is preferred, but I wonder if many of these people and their Western-backers are too far gone for that to work).
100 percent correct!
According to former CIA intelligence agent Larry Johnson, Isra-Hell was two weeks from a total surrender to Iran. Iran bombed strategic chock points of Isra-Hell and severely crippled the Nation. Is this the real reason why Trump called for an Iran/Isra-Hell ceasefire?
Former CIA agents Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern on Judging Freedom explain, how Satan's Chosen People picked the wrong fight and desperately needed Big Brother to step in and call timeout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzIaCNc8HBA
Moloch, the true god of the Zionists and Capitalists can deal with them in their afterlife. Who will send them to meet Moloch’s warm embrace?
I think Moloch is scared of the Zionists and Capitalists. Even Moloch's evil seems to be unmatched to that of these creatures (IMHO).
Note - Moloch was a god of fire to whom parents threw their children to be burned alive ........ sounds on a par with our billionaire-haunted planet to me.
The Nazis’ gas chambers were more humane.
And maybe, lethal injection is ‘more humane’ than the electric chair, but that does not make either, nor any, right or acceptable.
Were they?
there are no verified Nazi gas chambers that were used to kill people.
All Zyklon-B gas chambers found were only used to disinfect clothing from lice because of the dangers of Typhus.
But you should research it for yourself because it's not an easy jump to make!
Debating the Holocaust is a great book that covers both sides in detail.
Verified by whom? You sound like a bigot to me. Not interested in "debating" the Holocaust, any more than I am interested in "debating" the genocide in Gaza.
no god will deal with them in this life or the imaginary afterlife. those kind of thoughts justify inaction.
The metaphor is the action that is coming created by the world. israel (forever lowercase) is finished financially and now what's coming because this won't end until there is only Palestine remaining. Sadly it has taken far to long and that is because of people like me holding out hope the West and the Un would stop this and they only enabled it. First the religious state of israel will be dissolved and then the UN. Something new for all people will be created out equality is my dream.
You speak as if the regime occupying Palestine is some kind of sovereign state, separate from the Empire. I agree a breakup is overdue, but there is no separating the two. Just because the Emperor’s garrison in occupied Palestine has a name doesn’t mean that focusing on it solves anything. Yes, it’s a depressingly difficult task, but you can’t simply cut off a tentacles, they just grow back.
It’s the body and head of the Empire that must be tamed, not just one of its offending limbs. Dismantling the Empire would dismantle the Zionist regime in occupied Palestine, it would also cut off arms to the Azov Nazis in Ukraine, and it would no doubt bring much-needed relief to many nations where the Empire's agents nurture chaos.
This Empire has had its tentacles all over the planet, the Contras in Nicaragua, separatists in Taiwan, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan who later re-emerged and transformed into al-Qaeda and the Taliban. And let’s not forget the terrorist regime that took over parts of Syria, or the killers-for-hire the Empire employs to rob and murder starving Palestinians as they are corralled like livestock into so-called aid distribution centers.
As you correctly asked, who, or what country or entity, could bring about such a reality? The answer is none. Oh, there will be more battles, perhaps in Taiwan, perhaps in the Balkans. Estonia’s population is 20% native Russian, so they will no doubt be targeted. And I don’t think NATO has completely given up on dragging Georgia into the alliance. But as for a breakup of America, it’s unlikely without catastrophic upheaval, and it would have to come from within, not from outside.
The problem is, the majority of Americans are too accustomed to the creature comforts and willful ignorance of their Empire’s destructive nature. So I suspect the world will just become increasingly divided as the Empire struggles to hold on. The U.S., Canada, the UK, the EU, Australia, and New Zealand will likely form a “White Alliance.” The South Koreans and Japanese will I hope wake up soon, these sad souls really believe they are part of the West, but only they think that. No North American, European, or Australian considers them part of the superior white race.
The greatest turmoil may come in Spain, Italy, Greece, and Turkey, nations with deep roots and cultural ties to the Arab world. These ties may pull them in conflicting directions. The USA has already staked their claim to the Panama Canal, but the Suez will be more difficult to seize.
America will build its walls higher, Europe will dig a moat around its precious garden, and Australia and New Zealand will panic. But in truth if they just stopped joining in with America’s insanity, they would be just fine.
If the Africans and Latino nations can get their acts together, they will be be just fine, they have plenty of natural resources and fertile land, but can they wrestle of empires strangle hold?
Yes, its another long rant, there was so much I needed to vent, and CJ is one of the few who does not require payment for commenting, I don`t agree with her focus on Israel, but I applaud her for allowing all to freely comment, she is one sadly one of few who truley supports discourse without having pay to have a say.
>>"You speak as if the regime occupying Palestine is some kind of sovereign state, separate from the Empire."
tre peperoncini, seems like you're bored, just like to argue uselessly, or just like killing time.
If you read ANY of my comments on substack, you would know what I really think of the U.S. Empire. You would know of the forces 'pulling the strings'. You would know about the U.S. Empire being the largest 'state sponser' of terrorism and regime change operations globally.
End of discussion.
End of Discussion, you say? News for you my friend, this is no discussion. You can go silent if you wish, but I still have plenty more rants to expel, thank-you for helping me bring them out, but please don`t be mistaken that I write these rants just for your displeasure. I would have messaged you directly if it were.
Yes, I do not read ALL the comments, but I read this one, and it bothered me, so. Maybe I am bored, bored to rant because of the causal attention afforded the fleeting mention its "western backers" . They are not backers they are root of this evil regime.
Its American and European citizens who rushed to join the IDF so that they too could rape and murder and dress in the lingerie of dead Palestinians. It`s American and European money, It`s American and European weapons, It`s America that and Europe have for decades nurtured the regime and its offspring, convinced them that they are divine, superior , that they may rape , pillage, bomb others with impunity.
If my reminding anyone of this is annoying, or bothersome than maybe you need to ask yourselves why?
Two words, United Nations.
I'm not sure about worse. But at least as bad. Which nobody ever thought possible.
Tragically, the racists are armed with something infinitely more empowering than weapons. Money. They have already deployed it to annex the politicians. Plus: it is worth remembering, they consider anyone who is not eligible to become a citizen of Netanyahus openly apartheid, religiously discriminating 'Nation state of Jews only' a 'subhuman animal'. Fit only to be stolen from and slaughtered. No empathy, no sympathy, no shred of human feeling. Ready to make all the world into Gaza - see the Hannibal Directive - if their bullying genocide proves ineffective. Then, to money and overt racism, add the utter gormlessness of idiot religious brainwashing. The cretinous Huckabee belief in the rightness of an end-times apocalypse, the selfish consigning of all humanity to hell so that a selfish few can be raptured, the unshakeable conviction that idiot religious superstition makes some people worth more than others, that obliterating decency and civilisation is doing god's work. So Zionists have extreme wealth, proud racism, and religious lunacy all working for them. As well as, of course, the western politicians who'll do anything for a buck. Oh, and I almost forgot: they also control the media. They have prepared well. They see no need to be 'rehabilitated' because - as Israel's newest tactic, contaminating food relief with deadly drugs, as well as openly murdering the civilians who queue for it - plainly shows, they are vicious, and shameless, and have the morals of a virus. It is absolutely awful but until decent people are as revolted by Zionism as Zionism, as part of its strategy, encouraged ordinary people to feel about Islam, they will feel not the slightest incentive to behave with anything besides blind, genocidal, disgusting selfishness.
I like one piece of this, something I've said but not seen mentioned elsewhere--that this End Times Rapture cult is incredibly selfish, along with being based on absurdity (it's supposed to be biblically based but is actually based on one interpretation of a long rant full of symbols apparently written by a 90 year old man a couple thousand years ago). These are the people who claim to be Christian but embrace "prosperity gospel" which is essentially the opposite of Jesus' teachings, and claim that their deeds don't matter, that they get to be the only people ever to go to Heaven without dying first, and all they have to do is recite an incantation: "I take the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior." And then eat popcorn while watching the rest of us on Earth suffering through its destruction, administered in part by a new, vicious Jesus. They also think one of the signs will be the appearance of the Antichrist who will be a good-looking, charismatic European, who is in favor of peace and environmental protection. So be wary of anyone like that, and embrace politicians that favor war and destruction. I can't imagine a more toxic ideology.
Agreed. That appearance to them is Genocide Don as many of those groups suggest. If we think about it, the Nobel Peace Prize would be one of those deeds of the Anti-Christ, world peace. Thankfully Iran put and end to that so far. Now IF only Iran finishes this nightmare quickly as we know the Genocide powers have not stopped this war on Palestine/Iran/Lebanon/Syria etc. Hopefully the Zionists run to the light when israel chooses it's end in that Neutron glow in the heart of israel. Sampson Option brought to you by the Anti-Christ.
Seroiously? The Nazis did some pretty atrocious stuff - Fascists always do - they're bullies and sexual perverts. It's not a competition - the world can get along much better without fascism (and its parent company, "free" market capitalism).
Heard about the Israelis anally gang raping Palestinians? To death? Whilst filming themselves? In torture centres? Targeting medics? Heard about them deliberately starving a captive population, then drugging the flour they do allow in with oxycodone, then opening fire on desperate civilians who posed no threat? Heard about them leaving premature babies to die in their incubators when they forced the evacuation of a hospital at gunpoint? Heard any good things, at all, ever, about the behaviour of Israeli racist thug bullies? Anything? Ever? At all? Apparently, for Israelis, it is indeed a competition, and one they are applying themselves with brutal, subhuman diligence to winning.
A profoundly sick society operating from two profoundly sick ideologies.
IMO, the Israeli Zionists are unmatched in their evil - not even the Nazis can compare. The bar on evil has been raised (or lowered) (as horrible as it sounds, I can't help but say this).
There are all kinds of fascists and different levels of fascism. This is not about Fascism per se. This is about the Zionist regime in Israel (and their primary backers in the U.S.).
Yes, this is about Capitalism, but it is MUCH MORE than that.
Neither capitalism, fascism, nor Nazism seem to come close to the actions of the Israelis (and I say this subjectively and in all sincerity with sufficient knowledge of history of fascism, capitalism, and Nazism).
We weren't alive during WW2 and not were the atrocities documented so widely and so visibly. As Jennifer says, it's not a competition. Though it is indeed difficult to imagine any evil more profound, it's perhaps unhelpful to focus on this aspect. I have to constantly check myself from the debilitating disease of pure hatred. It's not healthy for me, and it doesn't help the victims either. Evil is evil and all evil must be stopped, held accountable, punished and learned from. It's that last bit we humans seem to find so difficult.
Must be my need to have things simplified, but I think you are nitpicking evil. Would agree however in that Israel represents a first in a genocide committed by the descendents of victims of a genocide. Zionists seem to have an active wish to rid themselves of the tag of "victim" by actively being perpetrators. This is a new development, and a profoundly sick one.
Beautifully said my friend : )
Thanks.
Israel should never have been allowed to come into existence.
The thing is, with every murder, rape, or other brutal act, Israhell is providing the case for it's non-existence.
So are you suggesting the execution of millions of people--if not hundreds of millions all over the globe--for disagreeing with you on this? Yes, "this" is the perpetration of a holocaust, a morally indefensible position--but still. So is this proposition. But executing the state of Israel? I'd call that overdue. If it ever had a right to exist it has forfeited such right. The country should be renamed Palestine, and any Jews there who can't live in harmony with their Arab, Muslim or Christian neighbors should leave. Looks like that would be upward of 90%. I see no need for the remaining Palestinians to repay them for the homes and things they leave behind--they paid the natives nothing for what they seized in the Nakba.
I was going to write something my friend. After reading your thoughts, they are mine. I have never liked to think hurting someone was the only way to peace however, I was wrong and know with your help I see what needs to be done as a path to peace not just for Palestine but for the world. We my friend will share coffee in the New Palestine, a country of peace.
This Ha’aretz article is a watershed moment. At least it should be. Testimony of genocide by the people committing genocide. What more evidence does the world need? We have the videos of the killings. Now we have the confessions of the killers. Any country that fails to take concrete action against the countries committing genocide—US/UK/Germany/Israel—is by default a criminal state.
Stephen Walker, the countries you mention - US/UK/Germany/Israel (and more) have ALWAYS been criminal states - think about the atrocities committed by the British Empire, the Nazi Regime, and the U.S. Empire (which is in a class all its own).
Unfortunately, the world seems to be made up of 'Criminal States' (big and small). Have humans ALWAYS been like this throughout history? Do we even know enough of the REAL history of humanity (or howmuchever of it has survived)?
Will the 'flaws of homosapiens' lead to their extinction and hopefully a better, more evolved species might arise from the ashes? I am hopeful...too bad I won't be alive for another million years to find out...
Modern technology has facilitated the current levels of destruction and depravity. Two thousand years ago, it was much more difficult to cause buildings to collapse upon their residents. Archers were not as accurate as modern snipers at distances of a thousand yards.
The trench warfare in the battlefields of WWI were horrific but generally did not grind up civilians.
The scientifically orchestrated firebombing of noncommittal civilians during WWII, by British and American forces, did change the game. During the illegal invasions of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the US forces dropped enormous amounts of ordnance upon civilians.
>>"Modern technology has facilitated the current levels of destruction and depravity."
💯 Like I've said before, human evolution has been unable to keep pace with the changes in science and technology. Our political systems lag behind, our legal systems lag behind, our economic systems lag behind, and our social systems lag behind.
Our fascination with technology (especially when it comes to the BIG-TECH industry) definitely seems to hasten our undoing.
Will humanity be able to wake up in time to understand the consequences of its 'love affair' with technology and its impact on human societies?
And yet the bible praises for Joshua, for killing 12,000 people in a single day. (Joshua 8:25) Even these modern Israelis with all their modern weapons haven’t managed to reach that level. Of course, they do have the weapons with which to do so. Perhaps, instead of its being called the Samson Option, it should be called the Joshua Option.
Isn’t it incredible that people worship this kind of slaughter in something they call their holy book? Genocide for some has long been normalized.
The Bible was written by some politicians over a period of hundreds of years. Joshua led a select group of possibly 5,000 soldiers out of maybe 30,000 to slaughter the 12,000 victims. Whether that actually happened during one day or several days or ever is a matter of conjecture, but the narrative gave license to future generations to commit genocide.
The Americans killed millions of indigenous peoples over a period of a century or so. The Turks slaughtered a million or million-and-a-half Armenians in the early 20th Century without any “weapons of mass destruction”, and still deny doing so.
Any and all religious leaders who support genocide are hypocrites, and they are plentiful.
There is a something important you are leaving out. The evils you name do not represent What Humanity Is. We had hundreds of thousands of years of mostly peaceful, egalitarian tribes living in harmony with their ecosystems. But once the Holocene enabled agriculture, which in turn enabled some tribes to evolve into little empires led by chieftains and kings, growing steadily by vanquishing neighbors, a dynamic set in wherein the aggressive culture nearly always won conflicts with peaceful defenders, and thus expanded to, by now, virtually the entire planet. It is very much like cancer.
After my sister died of cancer, I decided to learn something about it. I read a book mostly focused on advances in treatment, but found two facts I hadn't known that I think very interesting in light of this metaphor. One is that a cancer can redirect blood vessels toward itself, to feed its growth. The other is that a cancer can evolve resistance to chemotherapy drugs that once inhibited it. Another thing that fits the metaphor I already knew: the most successful cancer dies when it succeeds to the point it kills its host. Here you can look on the host as either humanity, colonized by the cancerous ideology of domination, or our ecosystems, which are a few decades from death if we keep up Business As Usual which there are no signs of deviation from.
So don't hope for human extinction to kill the virus--hope instead that we finally figure out how to contain and extinguish the domination culture. The problem is that those willing to use violence to seize land and resources have a great edge over those who'd rather cooperate. Caitlin is banking on mass enlightenment as the cure--I'm skeptical of that but haven't lost hope.Mine is based on the notion that when the inevitable crash comes, it will allow a massive reckoning, and survivors will craft a better culture/religion/cosmology, perhaps led by remaining indigenous people.
Sometimes, the most effective way to stop the cancer is to cut it out, immediately after it’s detected.
fyi, re: the anthropology aspects
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34324534-against-the-grain
"Evidence"?
The Eurocolonial empire has been robbing and dispossessing and mass mudering "others" on this planet since the 1500s. The "other", whether the South Africans, Kenyans, Algerians, Palestinians, or whatver,.....is always framed as a threat and the Eurocolonial masses are always willing to believe whatever story it is, no matter how absure.
Its not a system error. it's system design.
to my surprise the haaretz story got some traction in western media too. politicians still seem bunkered down, though.
The politicians obey their wealthiest sponsors.
I have tried to like this comment 8x, and it keeps saying "there's an error liking this comment" - so here's my comment instead
“They were just following orders.”
I hope the journalist who exposed this is safely out of Israel or he could meet the same fate as the 200+ journalists targeted and killed already.
WATCH (1:59:29)
🛑Investigating #WarCrimes in #Gaza
♦️This feature length investigation by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit exposes Israeli war crimes in the #GazaStrip through the medium of photos and videos posted online by Israeli soldiers themselves during the year long war
https://youtu.be/kPE6vbKix6A
Thanks for posting the link. Keep forwarding it to the world. I am also forwarding it.
watched and shared
Thank you for this. I’ll add another from Palestine’s representative at the UN:
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https://youtu.be/StKivF23Rms?si=FbDiJOszpfU-rfQ4
‘… just following orders.’
Ahh yes. The Nuremberg Defense.
That didn't end well for many thankfully. The UN is a garbage pit of u.s. commands. The Hague is only a city with a distant past.
"Israel" in all languages must now have the definition "monstrous, limitless evil and depravity".
W.F.Miloglav, you're too kind. I think harsher words are needed to adequately define/describe 'IsraHELL'...
Only say "Zionist entity." I would like to see everyone who gives a name to that entity be required to read out (Auslesen) every name of every child martyred in Gaza before they sleep again.
The demented Joe Biden publicly identified himself as a Zionist throughout the several decades of his political career. Every politician — hundreds of them — who has proclaimed Israel’s right to defend itself must also be required to recognize and speak the name of each and every victim/martyr of Israel’s “right to defend itself”.
Exactly, when they appear at the new Nuremberg trials, before twisting in the wind.
May the Universe grant your words come true my friend : ) Twisting in the wind. Now I am hoping for a windy day at the Hague : )
Or maybe better yet, the "Zionist abomination".
Every night : )
You're absolutely right, of course: a whole new vocabulary probably has to be created.
Thank you for that. Maybe you might create one just for them : ) Wow, that is tough but interesting.
OMG - the nightmare just keeps getting worse and worse and worse! Where are leaders of conscience who will stop this demented madness. The level of
cruelty being done by the Zionist Israelis to Gazans - which includes Christians, Jews, Muslims and secular women, men, babies and elderly - far surpasses anything done by the Nazis.
The Nazis 'just' increasingly efficiently killed Disabled, Catholic then the Jewish people.
The sadistic, demented Israeli Zionists seem to do whatever to maximize horror.
Yvonne Zarowny, Why leave out the Communists?
I am not aware of communist involvement in Middle East/Palestine/Israel. Please elaborate. Also saw no indication of it when there - so again - please elaborate.
i suspect indu meant in your list of nazi-victims. communist, social democrats, trade unionists were some of the first and most targeted by the nazi-regime.
armed factions of dflp and pflp are marxist-leninist organisations actively involved in armed resistance in gaza. my guess is that they (and their families) would also be targeted by the idf.
mint press' telegram mentions israeli settlers burning down the christian town taybeh (all-christian population) in the west bank.
"far surpasses anything done by the Nazis" - today many in the forum reveal their excellent knowledge of atrocities committed by the German Nazis and their European collaborators.
Hint: if you choose not to believe it, it's not just Holocaust that took place back then.
This is horrific. I'm glad those soldiers are speaking out. And I wish they'd get out of Gaza.
The Iranians should have continued.
Some forum generals think they lack balls. Do you?
There's something else but we're not getting the whole picture - there's more to this no doubt, we don't have access to all the ugly details.
The US lifted sanctions on Iran's oil trade, that's one way to keep the strait of Hormuz open.
Sorry Genocide Don walked all that lie about dropping sanctions back. The reason Iran did not thank him for bombing them. Yes he did as insane as that sounds. Of course why would anyone believe a word from that Monster, Genocide Don.
So is it principles then?
I'm just trying to get from the forum generals a clear assessment that Iran could go toe to toe militarily with the combined Israel/US/West and somehow chooses not to.
The IDF is the most IMMORAL army in the world.
The IDF might be in a tie with the US and a few others over who has the least morals.
During the illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the US government hired private mercenaries to conduct some of the most dastardly deeds — actions that the Regular Army soldiers would not be inclined to commit.
Thank you for that, however I think we agree they are at least tied for 1st.
How do I know if I'm antisemitic? If I don't sing hymns of praise to the right of Israel to commit genocide every time I take a shit.
HaHaHa - darn, I must be antisemitic. It must be in my blood (or shit) or something...
I spat out my energy drink.
When is this obnoxious polack bastard going to fucking die? So fed up with this stupid shit! Death to the fake state. Death to the fake people.
Do you really think "Netanyahu" (Mileikowsky) is the 'Mastermind' behind all this or that this will stop with the death of Satanyahu? I doubt it....
Exactly, more than 80% of Israeli Jews think exactly the same way he does. He could very easily be replaced.
Very true, but at least it would allow us a "brief moment of rejoicing".
Hell yeah! But why stop there? Don't we all (and definitely the Palestinians) deserve much more rejoicing than that?
And boy do we need that.
You're being cryptic. Who do YOU think is the "mastermind?"
The US.
The 'mastermind' is/are the system(s), the humans are the actors on the stage of civilization performing their acts and playing their roles for all the world to see.
We can, at least, identify some of the masterminds including the deceased Theodor Herzl and Lord Rothschild. Contributors include every POTUS since Harry Truman and their UK counterparts. The billionaires who own the mass media are also part of the system. AIPAC is a fundamental player on the mastermind team.
That's very clever to say...
Nothing clever about it. The systems within which humans operate (and exists and survive) create the incentives for the behaviors and actions of the participants within it.
You can fuck off now. Not interested.
Yes. It's amazing that he has not been assassinated.
There are plenty more to come after him BUT I would like to see him gone along with Israel.
Meanwhile Northern Cyprus seems to becoming the next Israel.
Frankly my anger right now is with the likes of Starmer, who could stop it but choose to shrug, continue to help and pretend to be normal.
What the fuck does Meilekowsky know about being SEMITIC?
Well, he's been killing and ethnically cleansing 1000s of people who are.
This is a point we don't discuss nearly enough
This is the part I don't get: surely the Jews in Israel backing this genocide have heard the term "moral injury" in the context of soldiers and war. Surely they understand the horrific moral injury they are inflicting on their own people, their own children in the IDF committing these atrocities? Have none of them ever encountered a vet with PTSD? How can they condone this sacrifice of their own people's humanity?
The answer may be simply that they are all clinically insane.
I don't know if it is possible to inflict a moral injury on people who have been raised from infancy to be psychopaths.
Good questions, forceOfHabit. I wonder if anyone has answers to such conundrums and unexplainable behavior...
They glorify it, unfortunately
Ms Johnstone lays the facts out well.
The next, and I realize it is a very big one, step, is to realize that ALL governments and ALL militaries are completely immoral.
Although, to be sure, those in Israel take the cake.
To be honest, though, I personally am glad to see elements of humanity among the soldiers as they concede what they were instructed to do.
I disagree with Caitlyn here: people with actual consciences wouldn’t commit the mass murderous atrocities in the first place, even if they spill their ugly guts to a journalist later, and then only place blame on commanders.
Part of me agrees with you. But how hard must it be if a commander has a gun pointed at you, and you are already programmed to believe you're exterminating vermin? I can't imagine everything allowing myself into that situation but by the law of averages, some 'soldiers' will be less evil than others. Perhaps it is within these, where there's the possibility of a conscience, where hope lies...
Oh by all means, don't annoy the commanding officers with queries about the rationality of baldfaced murder.