See also: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!"
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The other day, I wrote that all Republicans lie, cheat, and steal.
But an even better, more concise way to understand what drives Republicans today, (and MAGA in particular) comes from the excellent journalist Adam Serwer:
"The cruelty is the point"
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BTW, on Kirk and Jimmy Kimmel, Serwer wrote:
"What happened to Jimmy Kimmel is not about one comedian who said something he should not have said. The Trump administration and its enforcers want to control your speech, your behavior, even your public expressions of mourning. You are not allowed to criticize the president’s associates. You do not even retain the right to remain silent; you must make public expressions of emotions demanded by the administration and its allies or incur its disfavor, which can threaten your livelihood. This is the road to totalitarianism, and it does not end with one man losing his television show."
"The cruelty is the point" describes both factions of the duopoly/uniparty. You haven't forgotten Biden started funding this genocide in Gaza first, pushed the Crime Bill into law back in the 90s, etc., have you? The entire corrupt system of government in the US is just plain cruel and exists to make the oligarchs even wealthier at the workers' expense. Free your mind--give up this R vs. D, Blue MAGA v. Red MAGA bullshit. Focus your energy on the true criminals, the oligarchs and their flunkies.
They are actually not much different on the bottom line. Democrat/Republican Both support all the efforts and everything the Genocidal Zionist do. Glad I did turn in my D voting card because I would have never thought I would live to see the day when the Democratic Party suppport a 2 plus year non stop Genocide of Humans.
This is sheer evil ,wickedness hatred and Racism, because I am sure the world would never allowed this to happen if the Palestinians were Europeans.
I used to be a dyed in the wool democrat for over 50 years but I started to remove the smoking mirrors in Obamas second term, and found out they are almost the same ,so I turned in my D voting card an changed my Affiliation to" N/A" No Affiliation. Then when I retired I moved to the Philippines in 2018.
I agree with Antonio Brownlowe that “the Republicans and the Democrats are not much different on the bottom line”.
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This is the problem with the idea that one must either belong to the “Blue Party” or the “Red Party”. If you’re a member of the Blues, then you must spend your time dissing the Red Party people. And if you belong to the Red Party people, then you must diss the Blues. And if you diss a Pol from the party you belong to, then you’re not a loyalist, you’re a traitor. For fucks sake! This is the best we’ve got? We really cannot do any better than this?
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Look at what is going on over in France today, for goodness sakes! And I do mean literally today: September 19th 2025. Today, the French put 300,000 people on the streets, and they called a general strike opposing the governments’ austerity policies. They could do that because they actually have a functioning political society that understands how to engage in political debate and discourse without reverting to a kindergarten mentality of “you’re for me or you’re against me.”
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France has a wide variety of political parties from all across the political spectrum. They have nationalists, communists, socialists, and what-you-ists. Lots of ‘em. When the French get together for family gatherings, usually those family members will often each belong to a different political party of their own choosing. And they debate with each other. They know how to do that without freaking out.
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At French family gatherings, if someone doesn’t belong to the same political party, they don’t tell each other – a la Michael Corleone to his brother, Fredo – “you’re going against the family.” They talk with each other. They listen. They debate. And they’re organized. Bloody organized. They’re able to field 300,000 people in the streets in one day and shut down the economy, and they are putting the necessary pressure on their government to force them to give up their efforts to transfer the people’s resources to the already mega-wealthy.
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About two hundred and fifty years ago, those guys over in France got their Republic just a few years after we did. Fast forward 250 years later, and all we’ve got to show for our efforts at democracy are two juggernaut parties, that, to any observer outside of this nation, look barely indistinguishable from each other; except for a few hotly disputed topics in our culture wars that, apparently, we are willing to fight to the death over.
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Apart from those narrow disputes in the culture wars, to anybody coming from a functioning political society with a wide spectrum of contested political views, the Dems and the Republicans look indistinguishable from each other. They both equally serve their paymasters, the American ruling classes that are the Corporatists, the Militarists, the Oligarchs, the Tech Bros, the Israel Lobby, and Wall Street. All the rest is mostly just political theater.
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Go into any supermarket in any American city today, and peruse the aisles. You will see dozens of different varieties of any given good on offer: cereals, coffee, cookies, toothpaste. You name it, you can find dozens of choices. Go into the voting booth, however, and what do you find? Two choices. That’s it? WTF is this? That’s the best we can do?
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In every other part of our lives, we’re able to come up with several dozen choices for everything, but in this one area, we are told only two choices are possible. And those two choices – except for the culture wars – are almost indistinguishable. I mean Coke and Pepsi offer more of a choice than do the Dems and the Republicans.
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And yes, I get that with Trump’s Nazification of the Republican Party, that’s a considerable re-branding on his part. That’s now a noticeable difference between the two parties -- uber-fascism versus old fashioned skullduggery -- but that isn’t a real policy change. That is just cranking up the fascism that was always under the surface all this time. Ask any of the unfortunate countries that “we” have invaded over the last 75 decades. They can tell us all about long-standing American fascism if we care to listen.
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Bear in mind, BTW, that it was the Dem’s craven unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the Republicans that gave such momentum to Trump’s takeover of the latter and his grab for the throne. Nevertheless, any viable alternative to an increasingly fascist future for our country surely will require of us a more thoughtful contemplation of political engagement than reverting to an “it is us or them” mentality and “either you are with us or you are against us,” for that is precisely what got us into this mess in the first place.
Trump is not not going to stop until he and his White Supremacist Racist MAGA Cabal turns America into one the most Despicable Tyrannical Fascist State on Earth
Yes, it is quite impressive. And scary. It's like this was in the works for decades now, and the oligarchs finally said, "Let's stop hiding behind this pretend democracy crap and just be who we really are. The plebes are all browbeaten enough to put up with whatever we deal out to them."
This was inevitable. Frank saw it long ago. I don't know when or where he said this, but he died in 1993.
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
What do you mean "until his... ...turns"? It's already a mostly despicable tyrannical facist state, has been for years - since idiots said America won WWII, which the fact is they came in after Nazi Germany was on its knees because resistance fighters were making it hard on them, and they had spread themselves too thin. Britain was almost on its knees fighting alone-again, except for resistance fighters (bless them). So, no, America was given the compliments because most were well aware that it might have been lost if they had not helped. You notice America talks about the 42-44 war, the rest of us talk about the 39-45 war. I met Americans that never went further than UK but still got medals, the British people were there for the duration and not one got a medal, but Americans were there long enough to court and marry British females. Ever wonder why when America starts a war, they make sure as many other countries as possible commit to being part of it first with their "Your either with us or against us" bullshit.
The Russians fought the war on the continent for many years whilst UK delayed the D Day landing. The Russians lost 20 million people fighting on the eastern front begging us to open a flank on the western front. We - USA and UK - rushed in when we saw Russia was winning and moving swiftly westward so we could determine the outcome of the war. We always ignore the suffering of the Russians in the war and the Chinese fighting against Japan...
If I understand the meaning of impeachment, it’s a continuation of smoke and mirrors governance where one bogus faction tries to kneecap and humiliate a member of another bogus faction.
This whole system is corrupt, and that means that there is no good guys to cheer for.
For those of us who are not fooled by the Right-Left puppet show, it would be helpful to try to come up with some way to re-educate the MAGA, Trumpers, Patriotic idiots , and get them to come into the light of reason and reality. On second thought, forget it. It would be a waste of time.
Oh well., if If ISRAEL did not kill Charlie Kirk , it must be the usual suspect which is 'HAMAS/KHAMAS 'TERRORIST.
All the death destruction and Misery in the mid east was caused by 'HAMAS' misfired Rockets according to the always innocent Israeli IDF military that can never tell a lie because they are always the perpetual victim of an all anti semitic world.
Will Israel be erecting a Statue of Charlie Kirk in ISRAEL too like Trump is planning to do in America?
They are the two most Sick Devious, Demented States ever and the Premier Masters in the fine Art of Deceit and Deception.
Moshe Dayan ::(Israel Must Invent Dangers, and to do This It Must Adapt The Strategy Of Provocation And Revenge:: General Moshe Dayan
"Your rulers want you punching laterally so you don’t start punching up."
Picking on others is just a convenient way to keep you from acting out your frustrations caused by the corrupt fascist system we're all living under. Do yourself and everyone a favor--start punching up. Punch a fascist! Eat the rich! Expose the pedophiles in power. But stop hurting other workers who are different from you in ways that really aren't any of your business to begin with.
So my first thought was "professional shooter." There are a few possibilities and mossad were up there. There are also plenty of dual US/Israeli citizens who have experience at shooting at children's necks, which would be skinnier than Kirk's neck, although not knowing much about Kirk i had no idea why they would ... only that it might be a false flag to distract from some other shit they had done or were about to do (and that still works). Once they caught the kid i accepted, OK. I was wrong. I need to watch that i don't start getting into conspiracies. Then I thought OK, right winger. I knew about groypers, didn't know they were critical of kirk, but it still seemed plausible based on how they are... then when the texts were released I thought, nah, non political- this was more about the kids reaction to Kirk based on personal factors in the kids own life, and brought up in a world with guns and shooting as a mode to resolve differences, he gravitated towards doing something like this. There were a few things that made me think something not right (eg - as a boomer i write overly long texts, a habit my grandson hates, and they wouldn't be as wordy as that, so how is that an exchange between two 22 yos? and circumstances would probably have dictated brevity anyway), but the most annoying thing was the apparent incompetence or deliberate incitement of speculation by the FBI. however, I basically accepted what was reported.
But then, with Netanyahu's "he doth protest too much!" I am starting to shift back to my original thought. Its not just his line of "twasn't me!" There's also how quick he was to point fingers, and other things he has said.
TBH i don't think we will ever find out. If israel is behind it, the FBI is too politically compromised to do a thorough investigation, and appears totally incompetent anyway. Tyler Robinson (if he is the killer) may have answers, but then there are a number of reasons why I don't think we will hear them - he may not know who hired him if thats what happened, and if he doesn't "suicide" to prevent a leak, he'll be staying silent to protect others. But regardless, the assassination has done its job. No one is noticing what is happening in Gaza, including Gaza City, and the mass starvation which is still ongoing, the UN report on genocide has been all but ignored, no one is asking questions about Doha, and no one is talking about the escalation of violence and talk of annexation of the west bank. Israel wins.
For what its worth, its very possible that because Kirk had ceased praising Israhell, Netanyahu et al certainly had him in their (gun) sights - but maybe totally unrelated to Israhell, Robinson just got in first?
I mean, it didn't even occur to me to say Israel was behind this, I was more saying TPTB that wanted to cover the Epstein files were behind it, but watching Bibi melt down has made me wonder, tbh.
Yeah, i thought of that too. It seemed such a convenient distraction for a number of reasons - and both bb and Trump's regime are winning, with the US going into full authoritarianism and this dominating the news cycle (when there are other things happening in the US that the media should be focused on). Whichever way, as i said my first thought was a professional hit.
You guys need to see this video with Max Blumenthal of the Grayzone. He has some information that Israel may have had something to do with his murder. He was getting threats after turning down money and a meeting with BeeBee Nutten-Yahoo and Bill Ackman. Supposedly they wanted him to repent and say nice things about Israel.
EVERYTHING Bibi says is the absolute truth! They are NOT doing a genocide, they are NOT starving Gazans, there is no restriction on humanitarian aid, every Palestinian has a HAMAS tunnel, every aid flotilla is HAMAS, and so on.
I'm assuming you meant this sarcastically. I say this because there are people stupid enough to believe every lie that Netanyahu says on face value (like certain members of my family, to my horror and shame).
Not specifically, but i saw he said "islamists." blaming Qatar might have seemed like a good strategy in case they got too antsy about being attacked - it could retrospectively "justify" Israel's actions in the minds of the American public after they hadn't successfully killed the Hamas negotiators. I mean, Israel is so full of it that it fits with the kind of thing they might come up with.
Absolutely perfect characterization of what is happening in US Caitlin. Howard Zinn tried to tell us decades ago in People’s History of the United States.
There is legitimate tension between some cis women feminists, and the trans liberation movement. I am a straight white male so this is not my lane and not my debate to have. I am against all transphobia and I align my values with feminism. But women and trans women have the right to debate women’s spaces without being silenced by dismissing the legitimacy of the few nuanced grievances. It’s an extremely important discussion. And I’m going to listen to all of it carefully.
It's problematic for sports and bathrooms, but trans people are at risk and efforts should be made to sort out the problems fairly, not demonize people who are trans. In everything we need flexibility, cooperation and empathy. Humans need to grow up. And animals need to be treated with the same empathy and respect.
It’s not just sports and bathrooms that some cis women feminists are debating. And the issue isn’t whether it’s ok to demonize trans women. Of course it’s not, and that is not what cis women are arguing. The issue is that this debate is legitimate and should not be silenced.
I guess if I felt like the person was predominantly male, I would feel uncomfortable having them in a women's bathroom. Similarly, an overtly aggressive masculine lesbian would make me uncomfortable too.
Again, this isn’t about your comfort level with lesbians or trans women. The issue is about negating a feminist perspective in order to accommodate trans liberation.
It's about a lot of things and as a cis woman I can express what I feel. It's complicated. BTW I hate the term cis. It just sounds pejorative. As a man, you can't have the same experience. Go ahead and explain more about what I'm missing here.
I have no problems with transwomen as a cis woman. A woman is a woman. It's what is in your heart and soul that is your true self--not in any physical form you may have accidentally been born into.
Calling yourself a “cis women” is evidence that you have swallowed the lie that men can be women. Men cannot be a any kind of woman, whatever is in their “heart and soul”. We are not born female or male by accident any more than we are “assigned a sex at birth”.
Are you scared? I can tell you all about that. I spent 2020 to 2023ish being quite frightened.
And you know what’s funny. I’m a tough guy. I’m not boasting. I learned it from years of shit. But I have never been more scared as I have been in those years.
Do you remember when the counting of votes in 6 states came to halt in Nov 2020? I do, in fact I remember it well. In fact, I am still blown away that DT is president afterwards. It’s like a Twilight Zone episode for me.
**if you want proof of cheating I offer you ONE piece of evidence….81 Million Votes
In 2020 I followed the official line. We mustn’t go outside and we must social distance. I saw people on the right go out and protest. At the time I was quite angry at them for it. They had some open up in MI I think. They were ridiculed and I indulged.
No more than a couple weeks later the media and democrats politicians urged all Americans to take to the streets. The goals was to demonstrate for a man who was a living example of a piece of shit. Did you ever see the entire video (took a while for that to come out). Hordes of cities were burned. Lots of injuries and deaths.
And then in 2021 the good old Covid vaccine (Trumps vax lol). And if you questioned it you were human scum. Fucker is still blabbering on about that apparently.
Not really, but that's ok. Was your original commented directed at me? It's hard to tell sometimes on here. As we were talking about trans people, I thought maybe you were. I might be confused lol
Seriously?! It should be illegal to lie?! Take a look at the f*cking president of the United States, why don't you? Every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie!
See also: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!"
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The other day, I wrote that all Republicans lie, cheat, and steal.
But an even better, more concise way to understand what drives Republicans today, (and MAGA in particular) comes from the excellent journalist Adam Serwer:
"The cruelty is the point"
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BTW, on Kirk and Jimmy Kimmel, Serwer wrote:
"What happened to Jimmy Kimmel is not about one comedian who said something he should not have said. The Trump administration and its enforcers want to control your speech, your behavior, even your public expressions of mourning. You are not allowed to criticize the president’s associates. You do not even retain the right to remain silent; you must make public expressions of emotions demanded by the administration and its allies or incur its disfavor, which can threaten your livelihood. This is the road to totalitarianism, and it does not end with one man losing his television show."
https://archive.vn/y5Br5
Every day is like 1984 and there's no end in sight.
"The cruelty is the point" describes both factions of the duopoly/uniparty. You haven't forgotten Biden started funding this genocide in Gaza first, pushed the Crime Bill into law back in the 90s, etc., have you? The entire corrupt system of government in the US is just plain cruel and exists to make the oligarchs even wealthier at the workers' expense. Free your mind--give up this R vs. D, Blue MAGA v. Red MAGA bullshit. Focus your energy on the true criminals, the oligarchs and their flunkies.
Not to worry.
October 7th opened my eyes in ways I wold have never imagined.
I am forever grateful to Caitlin for learning about the term "empire manager".
👏💯🙏 Bears repeating a million times over!
They are actually not much different on the bottom line. Democrat/Republican Both support all the efforts and everything the Genocidal Zionist do. Glad I did turn in my D voting card because I would have never thought I would live to see the day when the Democratic Party suppport a 2 plus year non stop Genocide of Humans.
This is sheer evil ,wickedness hatred and Racism, because I am sure the world would never allowed this to happen if the Palestinians were Europeans.
I used to be a dyed in the wool democrat for over 50 years but I started to remove the smoking mirrors in Obamas second term, and found out they are almost the same ,so I turned in my D voting card an changed my Affiliation to" N/A" No Affiliation. Then when I retired I moved to the Philippines in 2018.
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I agree with Antonio Brownlowe that “the Republicans and the Democrats are not much different on the bottom line”.
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This is the problem with the idea that one must either belong to the “Blue Party” or the “Red Party”. If you’re a member of the Blues, then you must spend your time dissing the Red Party people. And if you belong to the Red Party people, then you must diss the Blues. And if you diss a Pol from the party you belong to, then you’re not a loyalist, you’re a traitor. For fucks sake! This is the best we’ve got? We really cannot do any better than this?
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Look at what is going on over in France today, for goodness sakes! And I do mean literally today: September 19th 2025. Today, the French put 300,000 people on the streets, and they called a general strike opposing the governments’ austerity policies. They could do that because they actually have a functioning political society that understands how to engage in political debate and discourse without reverting to a kindergarten mentality of “you’re for me or you’re against me.”
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France has a wide variety of political parties from all across the political spectrum. They have nationalists, communists, socialists, and what-you-ists. Lots of ‘em. When the French get together for family gatherings, usually those family members will often each belong to a different political party of their own choosing. And they debate with each other. They know how to do that without freaking out.
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At French family gatherings, if someone doesn’t belong to the same political party, they don’t tell each other – a la Michael Corleone to his brother, Fredo – “you’re going against the family.” They talk with each other. They listen. They debate. And they’re organized. Bloody organized. They’re able to field 300,000 people in the streets in one day and shut down the economy, and they are putting the necessary pressure on their government to force them to give up their efforts to transfer the people’s resources to the already mega-wealthy.
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About two hundred and fifty years ago, those guys over in France got their Republic just a few years after we did. Fast forward 250 years later, and all we’ve got to show for our efforts at democracy are two juggernaut parties, that, to any observer outside of this nation, look barely indistinguishable from each other; except for a few hotly disputed topics in our culture wars that, apparently, we are willing to fight to the death over.
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Apart from those narrow disputes in the culture wars, to anybody coming from a functioning political society with a wide spectrum of contested political views, the Dems and the Republicans look indistinguishable from each other. They both equally serve their paymasters, the American ruling classes that are the Corporatists, the Militarists, the Oligarchs, the Tech Bros, the Israel Lobby, and Wall Street. All the rest is mostly just political theater.
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Go into any supermarket in any American city today, and peruse the aisles. You will see dozens of different varieties of any given good on offer: cereals, coffee, cookies, toothpaste. You name it, you can find dozens of choices. Go into the voting booth, however, and what do you find? Two choices. That’s it? WTF is this? That’s the best we can do?
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In every other part of our lives, we’re able to come up with several dozen choices for everything, but in this one area, we are told only two choices are possible. And those two choices – except for the culture wars – are almost indistinguishable. I mean Coke and Pepsi offer more of a choice than do the Dems and the Republicans.
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And yes, I get that with Trump’s Nazification of the Republican Party, that’s a considerable re-branding on his part. That’s now a noticeable difference between the two parties -- uber-fascism versus old fashioned skullduggery -- but that isn’t a real policy change. That is just cranking up the fascism that was always under the surface all this time. Ask any of the unfortunate countries that “we” have invaded over the last 75 decades. They can tell us all about long-standing American fascism if we care to listen.
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Bear in mind, BTW, that it was the Dem’s craven unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the Republicans that gave such momentum to Trump’s takeover of the latter and his grab for the throne. Nevertheless, any viable alternative to an increasingly fascist future for our country surely will require of us a more thoughtful contemplation of political engagement than reverting to an “it is us or them” mentality and “either you are with us or you are against us,” for that is precisely what got us into this mess in the first place.
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Trump is not not going to stop until he and his White Supremacist Racist MAGA Cabal turns America into one the most Despicable Tyrannical Fascist State on Earth
Impressive how far they've come in exactly 8 months.
Yes, it is quite impressive. And scary. It's like this was in the works for decades now, and the oligarchs finally said, "Let's stop hiding behind this pretend democracy crap and just be who we really are. The plebes are all browbeaten enough to put up with whatever we deal out to them."
This was inevitable. Frank saw it long ago. I don't know when or where he said this, but he died in 1993.
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
― Frank Zappa
Exactly! Many Years ago Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four said it all. He just got the date a bit premature.
What do you mean "until his... ...turns"? It's already a mostly despicable tyrannical facist state, has been for years - since idiots said America won WWII, which the fact is they came in after Nazi Germany was on its knees because resistance fighters were making it hard on them, and they had spread themselves too thin. Britain was almost on its knees fighting alone-again, except for resistance fighters (bless them). So, no, America was given the compliments because most were well aware that it might have been lost if they had not helped. You notice America talks about the 42-44 war, the rest of us talk about the 39-45 war. I met Americans that never went further than UK but still got medals, the British people were there for the duration and not one got a medal, but Americans were there long enough to court and marry British females. Ever wonder why when America starts a war, they make sure as many other countries as possible commit to being part of it first with their "Your either with us or against us" bullshit.
The Russians fought the war on the continent for many years whilst UK delayed the D Day landing. The Russians lost 20 million people fighting on the eastern front begging us to open a flank on the western front. We - USA and UK - rushed in when we saw Russia was winning and moving swiftly westward so we could determine the outcome of the war. We always ignore the suffering of the Russians in the war and the Chinese fighting against Japan...
It is already all of that but hidden under a smoke screen of democracy and freedom
Impeachment is indeed necessary...
If I understand the meaning of impeachment, it’s a continuation of smoke and mirrors governance where one bogus faction tries to kneecap and humiliate a member of another bogus faction.
This whole system is corrupt, and that means that there is no good guys to cheer for.
I am indeed forced to agree with you, due to the facts you've presented.
Unfortunately, we are WAY BEYOND the 'impeachment' stage/state of affairs (IMHO)...
Also see please see: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
"Road to"? I think we're past the TOA...it's here. Now.
Well, there's an end in sight and it has look of total and final emptiness .
For those of us who are not fooled by the Right-Left puppet show, it would be helpful to try to come up with some way to re-educate the MAGA, Trumpers, Patriotic idiots , and get them to come into the light of reason and reality. On second thought, forget it. It would be a waste of time.
Oh well., if If ISRAEL did not kill Charlie Kirk , it must be the usual suspect which is 'HAMAS/KHAMAS 'TERRORIST.
All the death destruction and Misery in the mid east was caused by 'HAMAS' misfired Rockets according to the always innocent Israeli IDF military that can never tell a lie because they are always the perpetual victim of an all anti semitic world.
Will Israel be erecting a Statue of Charlie Kirk in ISRAEL too like Trump is planning to do in America?
They are the two most Sick Devious, Demented States ever and the Premier Masters in the fine Art of Deceit and Deception.
Moshe Dayan ::(Israel Must Invent Dangers, and to do This It Must Adapt The Strategy Of Provocation And Revenge:: General Moshe Dayan
"Your rulers want you punching laterally so you don’t start punching up."
Picking on others is just a convenient way to keep you from acting out your frustrations caused by the corrupt fascist system we're all living under. Do yourself and everyone a favor--start punching up. Punch a fascist! Eat the rich! Expose the pedophiles in power. But stop hurting other workers who are different from you in ways that really aren't any of your business to begin with.
Well said TRC! ❤️🙏
So my first thought was "professional shooter." There are a few possibilities and mossad were up there. There are also plenty of dual US/Israeli citizens who have experience at shooting at children's necks, which would be skinnier than Kirk's neck, although not knowing much about Kirk i had no idea why they would ... only that it might be a false flag to distract from some other shit they had done or were about to do (and that still works). Once they caught the kid i accepted, OK. I was wrong. I need to watch that i don't start getting into conspiracies. Then I thought OK, right winger. I knew about groypers, didn't know they were critical of kirk, but it still seemed plausible based on how they are... then when the texts were released I thought, nah, non political- this was more about the kids reaction to Kirk based on personal factors in the kids own life, and brought up in a world with guns and shooting as a mode to resolve differences, he gravitated towards doing something like this. There were a few things that made me think something not right (eg - as a boomer i write overly long texts, a habit my grandson hates, and they wouldn't be as wordy as that, so how is that an exchange between two 22 yos? and circumstances would probably have dictated brevity anyway), but the most annoying thing was the apparent incompetence or deliberate incitement of speculation by the FBI. however, I basically accepted what was reported.
But then, with Netanyahu's "he doth protest too much!" I am starting to shift back to my original thought. Its not just his line of "twasn't me!" There's also how quick he was to point fingers, and other things he has said.
TBH i don't think we will ever find out. If israel is behind it, the FBI is too politically compromised to do a thorough investigation, and appears totally incompetent anyway. Tyler Robinson (if he is the killer) may have answers, but then there are a number of reasons why I don't think we will hear them - he may not know who hired him if thats what happened, and if he doesn't "suicide" to prevent a leak, he'll be staying silent to protect others. But regardless, the assassination has done its job. No one is noticing what is happening in Gaza, including Gaza City, and the mass starvation which is still ongoing, the UN report on genocide has been all but ignored, no one is asking questions about Doha, and no one is talking about the escalation of violence and talk of annexation of the west bank. Israel wins.
Hmmm.
Yeah, I don’t buy the ‘I shot him because he said mean things’. When Ben takes over TP, we’ll know
For what its worth, its very possible that because Kirk had ceased praising Israhell, Netanyahu et al certainly had him in their (gun) sights - but maybe totally unrelated to Israhell, Robinson just got in first?
I mean, it didn't even occur to me to say Israel was behind this, I was more saying TPTB that wanted to cover the Epstein files were behind it, but watching Bibi melt down has made me wonder, tbh.
Yeah, i thought of that too. It seemed such a convenient distraction for a number of reasons - and both bb and Trump's regime are winning, with the US going into full authoritarianism and this dominating the news cycle (when there are other things happening in the US that the media should be focused on). Whichever way, as i said my first thought was a professional hit.
I seem to recall the first news to confirm Kirk's death came out of Israel.
Thats interesting.
“The [Prime Minister] doth protest too much”
Methinks… too 🤨
You guys need to see this video with Max Blumenthal of the Grayzone. He has some information that Israel may have had something to do with his murder. He was getting threats after turning down money and a meeting with BeeBee Nutten-Yahoo and Bill Ackman. Supposedly they wanted him to repent and say nice things about Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GceyZzZzYlc
I see why. Thank you. More theories. 🤢 what we need is Poirot to tie it all together for us.😀😂
EVERYTHING Bibi says is the absolute truth! They are NOT doing a genocide, they are NOT starving Gazans, there is no restriction on humanitarian aid, every Palestinian has a HAMAS tunnel, every aid flotilla is HAMAS, and so on.
I'm assuming you meant this sarcastically. I say this because there are people stupid enough to believe every lie that Netanyahu says on face value (like certain members of my family, to my horror and shame).
Did you hear the part of Netanyahu's speech where he blamed Qatari money? It is a setup to attack Qatar.
Not specifically, but i saw he said "islamists." blaming Qatar might have seemed like a good strategy in case they got too antsy about being attacked - it could retrospectively "justify" Israel's actions in the minds of the American public after they hadn't successfully killed the Hamas negotiators. I mean, Israel is so full of it that it fits with the kind of thing they might come up with.
‘Your rulers want you punching laterally so you don’t start punching up.’ In a nutshell
Of course they fuckin well did kill him!!!
I quite frankly don't care who did or didn't do it but I do know that the FBI is lying.
Absolutely perfect characterization of what is happening in US Caitlin. Howard Zinn tried to tell us decades ago in People’s History of the United States.
There is legitimate tension between some cis women feminists, and the trans liberation movement. I am a straight white male so this is not my lane and not my debate to have. I am against all transphobia and I align my values with feminism. But women and trans women have the right to debate women’s spaces without being silenced by dismissing the legitimacy of the few nuanced grievances. It’s an extremely important discussion. And I’m going to listen to all of it carefully.
It's problematic for sports and bathrooms, but trans people are at risk and efforts should be made to sort out the problems fairly, not demonize people who are trans. In everything we need flexibility, cooperation and empathy. Humans need to grow up. And animals need to be treated with the same empathy and respect.
It’s not just sports and bathrooms that some cis women feminists are debating. And the issue isn’t whether it’s ok to demonize trans women. Of course it’s not, and that is not what cis women are arguing. The issue is that this debate is legitimate and should not be silenced.
I guess if I felt like the person was predominantly male, I would feel uncomfortable having them in a women's bathroom. Similarly, an overtly aggressive masculine lesbian would make me uncomfortable too.
Again, this isn’t about your comfort level with lesbians or trans women. The issue is about negating a feminist perspective in order to accommodate trans liberation.
It's about a lot of things and as a cis woman I can express what I feel. It's complicated. BTW I hate the term cis. It just sounds pejorative. As a man, you can't have the same experience. Go ahead and explain more about what I'm missing here.
I have no problems with transwomen as a cis woman. A woman is a woman. It's what is in your heart and soul that is your true self--not in any physical form you may have accidentally been born into.
Calling yourself a “cis women” is evidence that you have swallowed the lie that men can be women. Men cannot be a any kind of woman, whatever is in their “heart and soul”. We are not born female or male by accident any more than we are “assigned a sex at birth”.
The debate is not about what’s in a person’s heart. Cis women feminists are not arguing that trans women have an untrue heart and soul.
Uh oh, you better hang yourself asshole 🤣
I guess someone like you would scare me.
Are you scared? I can tell you all about that. I spent 2020 to 2023ish being quite frightened.
And you know what’s funny. I’m a tough guy. I’m not boasting. I learned it from years of shit. But I have never been more scared as I have been in those years.
Why?
Do you remember when the counting of votes in 6 states came to halt in Nov 2020? I do, in fact I remember it well. In fact, I am still blown away that DT is president afterwards. It’s like a Twilight Zone episode for me.
**if you want proof of cheating I offer you ONE piece of evidence….81 Million Votes
In 2020 I followed the official line. We mustn’t go outside and we must social distance. I saw people on the right go out and protest. At the time I was quite angry at them for it. They had some open up in MI I think. They were ridiculed and I indulged.
No more than a couple weeks later the media and democrats politicians urged all Americans to take to the streets. The goals was to demonstrate for a man who was a living example of a piece of shit. Did you ever see the entire video (took a while for that to come out). Hordes of cities were burned. Lots of injuries and deaths.
And then in 2021 the good old Covid vaccine (Trumps vax lol). And if you questioned it you were human scum. Fucker is still blabbering on about that apparently.
So many things about that still scare me.
Hope that helped 😉
Not really, but that's ok. Was your original commented directed at me? It's hard to tell sometimes on here. As we were talking about trans people, I thought maybe you were. I might be confused lol
"I only supplied the gun and the Patsy"
Seriously?! It should be illegal to lie?! Take a look at the f*cking president of the United States, why don't you? Every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie!
If you want to clean house, start with your own!
If you want to shush pro- Palestinian and anti-genocide readers, you've come to troll the wrong publication, Zio.
I think you mis-interpreted her comment.
Yeah. I didn't understand it but took a leap. A misfire I guess.
Where there's smoke there's fire, Mielekowsky!