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So UKR claims credit for US organized strikes into Russia; and then, Stoltenberg expresses “fear” that the war he has helped cause, and dreams about, may actually occur. Every word from the West is a lie or gaslighting, nothing else. These criminals prefer world war to the broad exposure of their crimes.

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They cannot win and they cannot afford to lose.

That arsenal of democracy, the democracy of arsenals can no longer serve as the geo-political success paradigm that underpinned Western and notably US economic life.

Their US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War to remove the Russian Government and seize Russian resources has foundered on the fundamental reality that The United States and allies are not a peer competitor of Russia, nor China for that matter.

The entire conflict might have been avoided except that the prize was and remains Russia's rich resources.

There was no avoiding it. Their only choice now - double down.

The detail is here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/long-proxy-war-vii-crisis-of-failure

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No. The intention in the Iraq and Syria wars was stealing their resources, but not here. Here, it was about weakening Russia as part of a desperate bid to maintain uni[polar supremacy, with China as the top real concern--and knocking out Russia as a competitor in supplying oil and gas to Europe.

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That - true. Plus Special Extras.

1. Russian Resources, as there is no supremacy without access and control of resources, as George Kennan pointed to many decades past. US primacy depends on this and thus the system of international arrangements must be "arranged".

2. China is The Prize, in weakening their geo-political presence but not put them "off the air" in their intended role as Washington's outsourced Asian workshop. BeiJing had other ideas.

3. Russia is a protector of China's borders and thus prevents the US from destabilizing operations from that direction.

4. And the big prize not achieved is to prevent this century belonging to The Great Eurasian Union, with principle countries China, Russia, Iran, African States, Stan States, South American States. The industrial powerhouse and resource countries. The West, that 12.5%, is left with not much.

Check - in this operation, God Favours Russia . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-long-proxy-war-vi-god-favours

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It was also stealing resources. Ukraine has a lot of energy and agricultural resources that Western companies want to get their hands on. And having Ukraine as an IMF debt colony, NATO bloc weapons customer, and privatizing their state companies.

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These are sociopaths. Unless and until they suffer very real and very personal consequences, they will continue to do what delivers them rewards.

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True. And so there will be an escalation until one of the NATO countries is deliberately struck so it really hurts. What'll happen next is anybody's guess.

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Now that is perhaps the most relevant comment on this subject.

Stoltenberg. Well it's really hard to believe that the comments he made and which have been quoted today, are really from his lips, but they do appear to have been so. I have always seen him as the Master of Ceremonies, balancing the delicate issues between his financiers in the US, the Vanguards and BlackRocks, the Neocons in every Washington corridor and all the NATO participants, no two of his ‘ready-for-war’ countries similar. Nor their attitudes towards Russia and their attitudes towards each other. He is / was the glue, has been for years. But his comment today?

Do we read into that a sign of misgivings about running an organisation of unlike countries, promoting war and promoting a hatred of Russia to all his underlings, in some way every day.?

Someone should keep up the pressure y questioning him and see what is behind his very real fears for the future, because they are real in every sense. When you have a US-installed amateur Ukrainian comedian swanning from one country to another, one TV screen to the next, from the cover of a Magazine like Time, to receiving favourable comment from rightwing media networks around the world, how simple it would be for him to use his charm on Poland, for example, a country with little love for Russia based on historical facts and to encourage them to engineer a nuclear attack. The US would be happy to assist in any way they can, false flags being their speciality as the whole world knows. After all, all this mischief-making is happening a long way away from the shores of mainland America. It’s not as if there was an unfriendly or dangerous base close to the homes of 330 million people….like Cuba for example. That would definitely change the game. The feeble American president would have to worry about the nervous reaction of Americans at home. Can’t have that can we.

Keep 'em dumb and keep ‘em happy.

But, the real danger. Zelenskyy has never felt more important than right now. Even with Ukrainians dying all around him, he promotes himself as the hero of the hour….or something similar. There must have been something really major for Time magazine to award him such a title. Whatever it was, most other people in the world seem to have missed it. I’ll wager that the first bomb that hits his office block will see him dash to the airport for a fast trip to his aircraft waiting on standby for the flight to Israel, all his friends there and his many, many sponsors.

He is now and always has been the ever present danger. If he leaves Ukraine, it will all be resolved, just fade away.

Yet another country ruined by American interference, 6000 miles from Biden’s White House.

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Problem is: they are playing a game of “chicken” with nuclear war. And the consequences would be to us all, not just these sociopaths…

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Down in their bunkers they'll go....

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I was in High school for the Cuban

missile crisis. Terrible. The U.S. has actually regressed from then. Horrible. "Lesser of two evils" Heading for pure evil.

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DAMN demonicrat govt. from hell

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Democrats and republicans love the war machine. Screw you and yours! There’s no budget for universal education or healthcare, we need to send billions more in “military aid” to countries we regime change around the world for US CORPORATE interests!

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There is no universal education. Definitely no universal health care. Just give me back my earnings and stay out of my life. I will pay for a doctor when I break my leg. I know what to eat. I will die when I die. Provide me a curriculum that makes sense. I will teach my kids.

Do not give them any control. Do not COMPLY

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Funny, the rest of the first world has both universal healthcare and universal education.

Good luck paying for your $300,000 broken leg!

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We have universal health care. Maybe you should investigate on how bad it is failing everyone. It is a total crock, completely run by big Pharma. Emergency care is 20 to 24 hours in a waiting room. It takes 6 weeks to see a fucking doctor. This is occurring in Austrailia, Canada, England, Germany and the list of failing or failed universal care is extremely long. In Canada, we are promoting suicide. PROMOTING. That is not care. In Panama a broken leg costs about 2k to fix. No lineups. I pay for it out of pocket. The universal health care model is fucking garbage. Almost killed my wife.

The last I heard in the USA a broken leg is fixed in emergency that is free for all Americans. If you pay some fucking suit 300 k to fix your leg, that is on you.

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In the USA, emergency rooms require conscious patients to sign a statement of financial responsibility that places them on the hook for any amounts not paid by insurance. Emergency rooms bill you for all services. Sometimes, you can file with state programs to reimburse the hospital, but access is widely variable.

Second, universal care isn't "failing". It's being destroyed for private profit by deliberate political action. Even von Hayek, architect of neoliberalism, had sound capitalist economic reasons to nationalize health care. Even doctors, who once held quite high social stature as family physicians and private practitioners, are mere employees now, and the worse for it. And private care in the US is getting worse, too.

I suggest you stop getting your reality from people who can afford to exploit you.

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A promise of free treatment and not getting treatment or one that says you must sign for treatment and get it... you are not hearing me. These systems are completely corrupt. Ours is worse. In Texas last year, wait times 5 minutes. Canada 18 hours.

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In the US, if you don’t have insurance or money for insulin you can just die. Sure, they’ll treat you in the emergency room, and then bill you for $500k and send you into medical bankruptcy.

Gotta love capitalism. Defund public services and push for privatization and then blame “government” for the woes of privatization and defunding. 🙄

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KEALGSEM

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shut up commie and get the hell out of my AMERICA

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I’m left, gay and proud. Don’t like it? Too fucking bad.

The left wants better wages and quality of living for ALL people, the right wants white supremacism and for the queers to know their fucking place (in the closet) and the women to know their fucking place (barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen).

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You’re right, I have no balls, I’m a woman 🙄

Caitlin is a leftist FYI

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US government to its people: heres military aid for (insert foreign puppet state), screw you and yours! The war budget is infinite yet we have people without homes, without food, without healthcare, without education, oh but all those things are mysteriously beyond the budget. Another 40 billion for Ukraine? No problem! Funny how six months after the end of afghanistan were in a new forever war!

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"If things go wrong, they can go horribly wrong."

You think so, Jens? What could possibly go wrong prodding the Russian bear in winter? Allowing proxy armies to shoot at military targets in Russia doesn't count as "prodding", NATO? I guess it's time to dust off the bomb shelters and stick our heads between our legs and kiss our backsides behind, huh? Sigh!

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Good ole Jens... Gives new meaning to "Stupid Bastard"

These psychopaths are going to get us all killed. Of course, JS is a mere puppet for DC, London, and Brussels. He is dancing on his strings like Dr. Frankemstein's monster...

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Dec 12, 2022·edited Dec 12, 2022

The underlying story is Jens Stoltenberg is a two faced propagandist and neocon . He doesn’t mind war and is wiling to risk nuclear war.

However in Norway he has managed to drag that former strongly pacifist country into NATO’s warmongering by hiding the facts of obsequiousness to NATO while pretending to be sensible at home.

Thus Norway soiled itself with a decade of involvement in the brutal occupation and assault on Afghanistan, described to the unquestioning Norwegian press as “ peacekeeping”. But their veterans sing a different song.

Stoltenberg aims to return to Norway in the lucrative role of managing their central bank, so he does not want to reveal to them he is the type of man who would be rash enough to go along with an attack on a nuclear base. Nobody in Norway of course would want such a fool in charge of the their money. They would also understand he was about to rip apart their economy to serve the interests of the U.S. elite unquestioned.

The current Norwegian PM Jonas Gahr Store is a prodigy of Stoltenberg quietly doing his bidding in the same vein. Make grand statements of sensibility and progresiveness while serving the interests of the war machine and the ultrarich.

Also worth noting is that in the previous 5 years under prime minister Erna Solberg, another neocon, Norway, a direct neighbour bordering Russia, started hosting NATO nuclear bombers and nuclear subs. A fact which undoubtedly would’ve played into Russia’s decision to draw a red line with NATO in Ukraine.

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Russia was never a threat to Ukraine until the US "orange revolution" coup with an anti- Russia theme was launched in 2014. Russian speakers were targeted and killed, with 40 locked in a government building and burned to death. The Russian language was outlawed, and 14, 000 ethnic Russians in Donbas murdered. Zelensky was elected on the basis of the implementation of Minsk accords but was promptly directed to ignore them. For some strange reason, former Chancellor Angela Merkel now admits that Minsk I and II were stalling tactics: she is either conceding that Russia is justified in its objectives, or justifying (bragging about) her part in the deception game.

And now while NATO chief Stoltenberg expresses fear of an all out war, the US backing of drone

strikes inside Russia continue. Is this criminal deception, or some kind of cross-purposes tactics based on cognitive malfunction?

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All Jen Stoltenberg's statements to date have been selectively-incendiary war-mongering to death of the last Ukrainian. Going back many months he makes no reference to the international 5 September, 2014, Minsk accord on stopping the putsch Ukraine government's genocidal bombing of Donbass with 16,000 dead citizens. 'Exogenous' (Latin 'other-generated') oligarch financiers who own, command & control 'selections' in the USA, Canada 5-Eyes, NATO are despondent war & control psychopaths pushing for Nuclear War as their schizophrenic legacy. Oligarch puppet spokespersons such as Stoltenberg, seem to have a WW2 genocidal grudge-death-agenda, still 77 years later, against eastern Ukrainians who sided with the ten Axis nations. There is a cowardice in western international fake 'diplomacy' where spokespersons will never engage in Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Public Dialogues in scheduled, limited-time 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight'). The Court-of-Public-Opinion & economic action, when truly informed by both-sides, makes quick collective economic resolution to stop violence. Before & during WW2, Mohandas Gandhi as part of India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'indigenous' aka 'self-sufficiency') movement called for 'Satyagraha' (H. 'truth-search') between the colonial Allies & the Axis nations. Satyagraha follows all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') COUNCIL-PROCESS once part of every nation worldwide. Gandhi stated, "Non-violence springs from love, cowardice from hate. Non-violence always suffers, cowardice would always inflict suffering. . . Non-violence and cowardice go ill together. I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward." Gandhi was familiar with western British, French, Dutch, Belgium, US, Canadian, Australian etc. guilt of many 100s of millions of genocidal deaths in their colonies including before, during & after WW2. BOTH-SIDES-NOW is modelled on Indigenous Council Process, easy to use in any situation where any two individuals or representatives of groupings, may wish to know each other better, delve into positive pro-active agreement or for conflict-resolution. We can all stop the wars of our oligarchy, from the bottom-up simply by engaging with each other in formal dialogue because it attracts attention & human consideration from all sides. Repeated enough times among all of us, leading to our own peaceful, sharing, caring lifestyles, will leave oligarchs no choice but to re-join loving abundant humanity. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

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Some war criminals need to be taken out to save mankind.

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Stolenburger has is right to be afraid as Nato America is fully engaged now in the War and they are clearly losing it.

It’s a weird joke to say they aren’t fully engaged as Europe has depleted its arsenal supporting this war.

The conversation is a managed one by Stolenburger for those who are unable to think on their own.

Dumb is the powerful weapon wielded here for without its presence they fail as they waste 100’s of thousands of lives needlessly.

Punishing the innocent with sanctions in their scheme of things to rule us.

It’s just a bad luck luck story?

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Here are examples of intel NATO provides to UKR circulating on telegram:

- https://telegra.ph/NATO-dayot-VSU-koordinaty-celej-11-10

- https://telegra.ph/NATO-dayot-VSU-koordinaty-celej-CHast-2-11-24

Pretty darned detailed.

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Satellites are needed to guide drones to a target..has Ukraine developed modern satellites or is another country supplying the satellite data? I wonder who gave Ukraine satellite data...

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Hasn't Elon Musk been helping Ukraine with its satellite targeting with his "Starlink" system? Recently, he complained that he had been giving it away for free but now wants to be compensated or will pull the plug.

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True - Forget not The Biden Crime Family but let's not be unfair.

Many from that end of town had their family juniors in well placed position in The Ukraine, as reported.

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The condition precedent - a corrupt state. Easy to exploit while speaking to high minded narratives of freedom and democracy. The essence of Neo-Liberal World Disorder.

Check essay #3 from the start, forward . . . https://les7eb.substack.com

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I think this cryptic but key sentence was misinterpreted:

"Crucially, this includes new judgments about whether arms shipments to Kyiv might lead to a military confrontation between Russia and Nato."

I'm afraid that the "new [US] judgements" that are suggested revolve around a new affirmative US intent to provoke a wider war, including a US/NATO war.

I suspect that the prior "judgments" reflected a rational fear of Russian military capabilities and of escalation, but now that the US warmongers are actually believing their own propaganda that Ukraine is "winning", they want total war with Russia.They think Russia would not deploy nukes, or that they could hurt Russia so bad militarily that they would "cry uncle" or depose Putin.

Reminded of the scene in the War Room in Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove", where the Air Force General (George C. Scott) recommends a full scale first strike.

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This is all utterly insane. Yet being normalized. I find myself wondering whether a major reason is the popular belief in the US (not sure about anywhere else) in the Rapture, part of an interpretation of a biblical prophecy which is likely the result of an old man a couple thousand years ago getting too much ergot in his bread. Revelations is a long diatribe of symbols that could be interpreted a hundred ways. The Rapture posits that Jesus will come back amid the ruin of the Earth, and all the True Believers will rise up into the heavens naked, leaving their clothes and everything else behind. To be a True Believer eligible for going to heaven without dying you just have to recite this incantation: "I take the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior." Then all the Bad People will be hideously punished by the new violent Jesus. An element of this story is that first the Jews have to rebuild their temple where a mosque now stands--thus these zealots are passionate supporters of Israel, although they believe the Jews will all burn in Hell unless they convert. I'm not a Christian but I have read the New Testament, and what strikes me is how little the Jesus quoted there has to do with these zealots, with their obsession about other people's sex lives and their embrace of materialism and violence.

In other words, maybe a reason so many are unperturbed at the escalating risk of a world-ending war, because like most of us they see the current world as being as full of corruption as a two-week-old piece of meat in the sun--but unlike us, they imagine a magical brighter future world whipped into being in its place. I have fantasies of a better world replacing this one but I don't believe in magic and I think getting to that better world will be a long hard slog if we can get there at all.

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Yep. Americans are mythoholics.

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I think you're on to something very important.

Many people openly welcomed both WW I and WW II because they hated the decadence of the current situation and saw no hope for the future, unless there was radical and restorative change.

They looked forward to war providing meaning to their lives and sweeping out the old decadent elite liberal bourgeoise class and corrupt culture and imposition of a new regime - leading to a glorious future ("making the world safe for democracy" or "the Glory of the thousand year Reich" - now MAGA.)

Many of exactly those same conditions now exist, without the religious motivations you outline.

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