Listen to a reading of this article: My sources corroborate Seymour Hersh's report that the US was behind the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage. (My sources are logic, common sense, and public statements by US government officials.) If Putin and senior Russian officials had said what Biden and senior US officials have been saying about how much they hate the Nord Stream pipelines and how great it is that they were bombed, every member of the western political/media class would blame Russia for the bombing, and we would never hear the end of it.
I got banned from reddit world news for directly quoting what anthony blinken and victoria nuland said about Nordstrom. Spreading Misinformation apparently, censorship gone to the next level
Saying how you will be blowing something up, blowing that thing up, saying how its great that the thing is blown up, and then saying you didn't do it to peoples faces is some freaky power move. The fact the media and lots of subservient sycophants (who know full well their masters did it) but are falling over themselves to repeat the flagrant childish lie, says something about the human condition.
"Still blows my mind how the empire can rob Americans blind, keep them poor, deprive them of all normal social safety nets, oppress them, exploit them, throw them into the largest prison system on earth, work them into the ground, and then convince them to be angry at China."
This. It's almost magical how the ordinary person will blame some foreign country for their suffering and never think once that their own government could be behind all the evil they're experiencing. The mental manipulation begins early, maybe even before birth. Perhaps it's even something they're putting into the water. You never know. How can you put something past a government that would openly brag about blowing up another country's pipeline and risk a nuclear war?
Thank you Caitlin for another diagnosis of propaganda. Why is it when I first heard the story of Nord Stream 1/2 explosion I knew instantly it was a u.s. act of war and possibly a war crime. Why did I at first thought it was my own country? I work with many of the brightest people in science and during a coffee discussion I mentioned the explosions and asked what people around thought had happened. All most all said "Oh the Russians did it" I asked why would the Russians blow up a pipeline they held control of the output? A visiting Italian suggested it was to avoid payment of fines. I laughed you mean fines they wouldn't pay on a contract that was no longer valid? Blank stares. Why was everyone so willing to believe the bulls shit so quickly, brilliant people, people from different cultures, countries, sexes, races all wanted to believe the Russians did it. We have many Russians at the lab , friends and many of those same people turn their backs on them. Why? Now it's the Chinese who will face that same ignorance from brilliant people. Why? I know the science of nuclear weapons and their detonations, after effects, trained in radiation work , radiation source work and our gov. is insane thinking nuclear war is winnable. This Othering is where we are headed, war, nuclear war. When did boomers become so accepting of war? As a boomer myself, I am horrified seeing people I marched in the streets , sit-ins over Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Why? Capitalism is dying and it is reaching out in it's death throes trying to destroy in a very creative destruction, to rebuild and transfer the remaining wealth? Hopefully I am wrong, I wrote a story which now seems like current events, Run to the Light. BTW, when you see that bright light, don't try to run away, run to it. I should delete this because it's so fucking horrible to think it, but, I'm not and why? I'm sorry.
Agreed 100%, the quotes from the imperialists regarding Nordstream 2 make no sense unless you take them literally. So they confess to the world while trying to keep a huge international operation with lots of moving parts secret. Besides being evil they are stupid.
Caitlin Johnstone: "My sources corroborate Seymour Hersh's report that the US was behind the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage. (My sources are logic, common sense, and public statements by US government officials.)"
Love it. Caitlin's sources ~ logic and common sense ~ are the greatest assets any woman or man may hold. (Though "public statements by US government officials" tend towards the problematical, i.e. lies that lie beneath Beezlebub's burning abyss.)
Bombing of Nord Stream was such a stupid move from every perspective that you have to suspect hidden, far removed objectives. The bombing did not figure one iota in Russia's bottom line economically, which is as healthy as all-getout. Europe still uses Russian oil, and little of any other kind, but pays more for it through middle man, India. So what is that about? Well, it seems like impoverishment of Europe is the picture. But why? Clue: US debt of $32 trillion and an assessment made 20 + years ago that its financial obligations re social programs, medicaid, medicare, pensions, etc., would be unmeetable down the road. They're there now. And Canada's depitty PM made a famous (infamous) observation just recently at the WEF: she asked rhetorically if the US middle class "deserved" 10x the wages of global south countries- "did they work 10x harder"? It would seem this neoliberal mouthpiece is in on the severe austerity idea for US workers - which would make European prosperity an object of envy - even prompt immigration. So, perhaps an even playing field was made doable with the Nord Stream pipeline "incident" - about which Biden threatened (boasted) some time ahead of the fact? And let's not forget the milking of Europe in the Ukraine debacle cause.
The NS2 "bombshell" would be significant IF we had a reasonable expectation that someone, anyone, would be held accountable for the disaster. No one will be, so the real "bombshell" is, "the U.S. Empire destroyed the Nordstream 2 pipeline, everybody knew it, and . . . so what?!!"
Well said! I was thinking the same about how they refer to Sy Hersch revelations as "self published" & Reuters now with "blog". I was noticing the other night how much worse Reuters has gotten. The fact that a great investigative reporter of the proven trustworthy character and calibre of Seymour Hersch was obviously turned down by the big news giants that maybe in the decades of Vietnam war did publish his explosive expose of the Mai Lai massacre that opened eyes to the true horror of USA Empire's Vietnam War, this only shows how much worse the ability for truth to get out from the empire's mainstream news courtiers is, the empire is naked it has no moral clothes and it has commited an act of war against Europe. Trying to burn Europe's bridges like some demented conquistador burning his follower's ships so their is no way back, and demanding his poor sailors continue on to rape the New World treasures. I think this revelation of the betrayal of Europeans may be a slow but powerful burn, I hope it helps usurp our European leaders going along with the empire's homicidal escalation and completly manafactured drive for confrontation instead of the obvious and long waiting multi polar mutual interest practical co-operation for a sustainable future together thats been long on offer from Russia and China. Anyway well done Caitlin helping to turn up the wake up call on truth of Nord Stream attack and the naked lies of the Emperor!
“Progressive” by my own reckoning means 1) Being aware that the two-party adversarial system is fake; 2) Understanding that the U.S. Constitution is a document penned by and for the propertied and privileged; 3) The liberal-capitalist system is on a course toward its own destruction; and 4) No branch of the USG can be reformed, not the POTUS, not the SCOTUS, not the legislative bodies.
My appreciation for Bernie Sanders may appear contradictory or hypocritical for someone who considers himself a “progressive,” but, while I am very disappointed by Sanders’ silence on the proxy war and imperialism, I try to be a realist, and recognize that you can’t teach crawling infants how to run. Sanders may reject my fourth criteria, but I am not certain, given his experiences that he holds a quixotic zeal to reform the Democrat Party. I do believe that he puts himself in the sandbox where the majority of voting Americans reside, to cajole them into recognizing what they have lost to legalized thievery.
Honesty is a rare trait on Capital Hill, and Sanders is the only authentic speaker who addresses the loss of democracy, and the reality of oligarchy that has transpired in the primacy of the baby boomer generation. He’s one voice struggling to be heard amidst a din of distracting noise.
On the subject of distraction, I think it is an acquired pastime of a majority in my country. The pandemic exposed how fragile is the propagandized mind, and how Americans have never learned to be still with their thoughts. When people lost their favorite distractions, the company of friends, the option to dine out regularly, the addiction to live sports and concerts, depression became alarmingly prevalent, adult tantrums became more commonplace, and, of course, consumption of all manner of goods was diminished, causing vendors and businesses to wreak havoc on many personal incomes. It was not our best moment. I may be naive in thinking that it is our appalling, systemic contempt for public education that has corroded our culture from within. TV has become the oracle of pedestrian knowledge, while libraries and schools have been effectively ignored. This is the very welcome mat for propaganda!
“The compilations of evidence we've been seeing that the US was behind this attack look a lot like the evidence compiled by 9/11 conspiracy analysts, except the evidence is way stronger and US officials are pretty much saying they did it in plain English.”
9/11 is the most obvious conspiracy of all time, and one assumes all your readers know it by this point, so you can give up the fence sitting Caitlin.
After reading a ways down this thread, I say--please do ban Gene Frenkle. I know it goes against your values to ban anyone, but when someone posts dozens and dozens of comments--based on nonsense--on one post, they're wasting the time of everyone who reads comments. Of which I'm one--the best sites are often ones where the comments create a conversation that may be as enlightening as the posts.
I don't agree that the evidence behind the pipeline is "way stronger" than the evidence for the US being behind 9/11. They are both what I call "transparent conspiracies," which have become the order of the day. They WANT us to know.
I got banned from reddit world news for directly quoting what anthony blinken and victoria nuland said about Nordstrom. Spreading Misinformation apparently, censorship gone to the next level
Saying how you will be blowing something up, blowing that thing up, saying how its great that the thing is blown up, and then saying you didn't do it to peoples faces is some freaky power move. The fact the media and lots of subservient sycophants (who know full well their masters did it) but are falling over themselves to repeat the flagrant childish lie, says something about the human condition.
Great headline! If only people made use of those kinds of sources more frequently.
"Still blows my mind how the empire can rob Americans blind, keep them poor, deprive them of all normal social safety nets, oppress them, exploit them, throw them into the largest prison system on earth, work them into the ground, and then convince them to be angry at China."
This. It's almost magical how the ordinary person will blame some foreign country for their suffering and never think once that their own government could be behind all the evil they're experiencing. The mental manipulation begins early, maybe even before birth. Perhaps it's even something they're putting into the water. You never know. How can you put something past a government that would openly brag about blowing up another country's pipeline and risk a nuclear war?
Thank you Caitlin for another diagnosis of propaganda. Why is it when I first heard the story of Nord Stream 1/2 explosion I knew instantly it was a u.s. act of war and possibly a war crime. Why did I at first thought it was my own country? I work with many of the brightest people in science and during a coffee discussion I mentioned the explosions and asked what people around thought had happened. All most all said "Oh the Russians did it" I asked why would the Russians blow up a pipeline they held control of the output? A visiting Italian suggested it was to avoid payment of fines. I laughed you mean fines they wouldn't pay on a contract that was no longer valid? Blank stares. Why was everyone so willing to believe the bulls shit so quickly, brilliant people, people from different cultures, countries, sexes, races all wanted to believe the Russians did it. We have many Russians at the lab , friends and many of those same people turn their backs on them. Why? Now it's the Chinese who will face that same ignorance from brilliant people. Why? I know the science of nuclear weapons and their detonations, after effects, trained in radiation work , radiation source work and our gov. is insane thinking nuclear war is winnable. This Othering is where we are headed, war, nuclear war. When did boomers become so accepting of war? As a boomer myself, I am horrified seeing people I marched in the streets , sit-ins over Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Why? Capitalism is dying and it is reaching out in it's death throes trying to destroy in a very creative destruction, to rebuild and transfer the remaining wealth? Hopefully I am wrong, I wrote a story which now seems like current events, Run to the Light. BTW, when you see that bright light, don't try to run away, run to it. I should delete this because it's so fucking horrible to think it, but, I'm not and why? I'm sorry.
Agreed 100%, the quotes from the imperialists regarding Nordstream 2 make no sense unless you take them literally. So they confess to the world while trying to keep a huge international operation with lots of moving parts secret. Besides being evil they are stupid.
And then there's the fact that neither the Swedish nor the German governments are investigating the destruction of the pipelines.
It doesn't take a Perry Mason to figure out why.
Joe Biden's smirk in the linked clip after bragging to the press that he'll end the Nordstream pipeline is wicked and disgusting.
Incredibly, Biden said this and smirked as Germany's Chancellor was standing right next to him. Unbelievable.
I've grown to hate everything the U.S. stands for.
Caitlin Johnstone: "My sources corroborate Seymour Hersh's report that the US was behind the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage. (My sources are logic, common sense, and public statements by US government officials.)"
Love it. Caitlin's sources ~ logic and common sense ~ are the greatest assets any woman or man may hold. (Though "public statements by US government officials" tend towards the problematical, i.e. lies that lie beneath Beezlebub's burning abyss.)
Bombing of Nord Stream was such a stupid move from every perspective that you have to suspect hidden, far removed objectives. The bombing did not figure one iota in Russia's bottom line economically, which is as healthy as all-getout. Europe still uses Russian oil, and little of any other kind, but pays more for it through middle man, India. So what is that about? Well, it seems like impoverishment of Europe is the picture. But why? Clue: US debt of $32 trillion and an assessment made 20 + years ago that its financial obligations re social programs, medicaid, medicare, pensions, etc., would be unmeetable down the road. They're there now. And Canada's depitty PM made a famous (infamous) observation just recently at the WEF: she asked rhetorically if the US middle class "deserved" 10x the wages of global south countries- "did they work 10x harder"? It would seem this neoliberal mouthpiece is in on the severe austerity idea for US workers - which would make European prosperity an object of envy - even prompt immigration. So, perhaps an even playing field was made doable with the Nord Stream pipeline "incident" - about which Biden threatened (boasted) some time ahead of the fact? And let's not forget the milking of Europe in the Ukraine debacle cause.
The NS2 "bombshell" would be significant IF we had a reasonable expectation that someone, anyone, would be held accountable for the disaster. No one will be, so the real "bombshell" is, "the U.S. Empire destroyed the Nordstream 2 pipeline, everybody knew it, and . . . so what?!!"
Well said! I was thinking the same about how they refer to Sy Hersch revelations as "self published" & Reuters now with "blog". I was noticing the other night how much worse Reuters has gotten. The fact that a great investigative reporter of the proven trustworthy character and calibre of Seymour Hersch was obviously turned down by the big news giants that maybe in the decades of Vietnam war did publish his explosive expose of the Mai Lai massacre that opened eyes to the true horror of USA Empire's Vietnam War, this only shows how much worse the ability for truth to get out from the empire's mainstream news courtiers is, the empire is naked it has no moral clothes and it has commited an act of war against Europe. Trying to burn Europe's bridges like some demented conquistador burning his follower's ships so their is no way back, and demanding his poor sailors continue on to rape the New World treasures. I think this revelation of the betrayal of Europeans may be a slow but powerful burn, I hope it helps usurp our European leaders going along with the empire's homicidal escalation and completly manafactured drive for confrontation instead of the obvious and long waiting multi polar mutual interest practical co-operation for a sustainable future together thats been long on offer from Russia and China. Anyway well done Caitlin helping to turn up the wake up call on truth of Nord Stream attack and the naked lies of the Emperor!
“Progressive” by my own reckoning means 1) Being aware that the two-party adversarial system is fake; 2) Understanding that the U.S. Constitution is a document penned by and for the propertied and privileged; 3) The liberal-capitalist system is on a course toward its own destruction; and 4) No branch of the USG can be reformed, not the POTUS, not the SCOTUS, not the legislative bodies.
My appreciation for Bernie Sanders may appear contradictory or hypocritical for someone who considers himself a “progressive,” but, while I am very disappointed by Sanders’ silence on the proxy war and imperialism, I try to be a realist, and recognize that you can’t teach crawling infants how to run. Sanders may reject my fourth criteria, but I am not certain, given his experiences that he holds a quixotic zeal to reform the Democrat Party. I do believe that he puts himself in the sandbox where the majority of voting Americans reside, to cajole them into recognizing what they have lost to legalized thievery.
Honesty is a rare trait on Capital Hill, and Sanders is the only authentic speaker who addresses the loss of democracy, and the reality of oligarchy that has transpired in the primacy of the baby boomer generation. He’s one voice struggling to be heard amidst a din of distracting noise.
On the subject of distraction, I think it is an acquired pastime of a majority in my country. The pandemic exposed how fragile is the propagandized mind, and how Americans have never learned to be still with their thoughts. When people lost their favorite distractions, the company of friends, the option to dine out regularly, the addiction to live sports and concerts, depression became alarmingly prevalent, adult tantrums became more commonplace, and, of course, consumption of all manner of goods was diminished, causing vendors and businesses to wreak havoc on many personal incomes. It was not our best moment. I may be naive in thinking that it is our appalling, systemic contempt for public education that has corroded our culture from within. TV has become the oracle of pedestrian knowledge, while libraries and schools have been effectively ignored. This is the very welcome mat for propaganda!
“The compilations of evidence we've been seeing that the US was behind this attack look a lot like the evidence compiled by 9/11 conspiracy analysts, except the evidence is way stronger and US officials are pretty much saying they did it in plain English.”
9/11 is the most obvious conspiracy of all time, and one assumes all your readers know it by this point, so you can give up the fence sitting Caitlin.
After reading a ways down this thread, I say--please do ban Gene Frenkle. I know it goes against your values to ban anyone, but when someone posts dozens and dozens of comments--based on nonsense--on one post, they're wasting the time of everyone who reads comments. Of which I'm one--the best sites are often ones where the comments create a conversation that may be as enlightening as the posts.
I don't agree that the evidence behind the pipeline is "way stronger" than the evidence for the US being behind 9/11. They are both what I call "transparent conspiracies," which have become the order of the day. They WANT us to know.