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Note that none of current idpol debates challenge the Empire and its endless wars, nor do they question how the economic pie gets sliced.

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None of the "official" (i.e. Party Sanctioned) debates do, but you can listen to RFK Jr. dismantle US empire, US wars, and the massive collapse and failure of US foreign policy and consider that a "debate". He's openly cited MLK "Beyond Vietnam" speech text.

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And?

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Since when the "unofficial" counted in the US? Only the Party Sanctioned matter. That's the point.

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Did the Presidential press office not admit last year that it did practice domestic propaganda and actively lied to its citizens in the interest of the U.S but retracted it fairly quickly - or am I imagining it?

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"The press could easily have spent the entire Trump administration screaming about the dangerous aggressions Trump was advancing against Russia instead of calling him a Putin puppet, and mainstream liberals would have fixated on Trump's warmongering insanity instead of calling him Putin's cock holster. But that wouldn't have served the interests of the empire, which had been planning to ramp up aggressions against Russia for years. They set the agenda, and the public fell in line." I wonder how easy the press and the war machine would have found it to identify Trump as someone who was acting in a dangerous, and aggressive way toward Russia? Would they have used his statements of wanting to get along with Russia to push that propaganda, or his trip over there which brought an onslaught of criticism from the democrats and the media, and no new wars during his administration to to bolster the claim his agenda was aggressive enough to incite a nuclear war which seemed a much greater possibility under Bush/Cheney, and Obama. Do you understand how Ms Johnstone finds this would have been a propagandistic alternative rather then calling him Putin's puppet, or have I misunderstood her?

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No, the press would have focused on Trump's aggression against Syria, his insane stance vis-a-vis Iran, his imperialist agenda in Latin America, his assistance with the Saudi genocide in Yemen, etc..

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Hard to focus on that when he got so much support from the democrats in regard to sanctions on Venezuela, as well as the overturn of Obama's Iran deal, and I agree both are disgusting. As far as Yemen goes, also disgusting and much more so then the others I mentioned, but that forever genocide did get it's head start during the first Obama administration which he supported. You almost never hear of Obama being held accountable for anything, not even his support for the nazi's in Ukraine and using them to to bring about regime change in Ukraine. We won't go into Libya and the destruction of that country under his watch or the slave markets never there under Gaddafi are flourishing the last time I heard. Did you hear that his secretary of state Clinton signed off on a military coup in Honduras and handed the country over to the elites. The violence and poverty increased and so, many have fled to this country across our open borders. Remember it was under Obama the Syrian war began. What was initially an uprising for change became an opportunity for destruction and ousting Assad. Lets not forget Obama was cutely named the Droner and chief. He is just never given the credit he is due.

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I am aware of all those things, none of which are excuses.

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There is a picture of Netanyahu and Kushner standing behind trump while he was President with smirks on their faces in silent satisfaction as they manipulated Trump while he was signng away rights to Palestinians.

I agree trump was a lot more about making peace with Russia etc, but he was no match for the insidious maneuvers of the deep state... He still didn't drain the swamp and just let it turn into a cesspool. If he gets another shot I hope he learned a lesson not to let his ego get taken advantage of again.

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So long as we keep voting in these so-called elections, nothing will change.

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For those interested how fast votes are counted in the "third world" today's the second round in Turkey. The results should be available later tonight.

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What alternative are you advocating?

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I like representative democracy, but the elections have to meet a high threshold of trustworthiness. In the U.S., that is simply no longer the case. It is funny that so many “shithole” countries are quite capable of holding clean (or at least “sufficiently clean”) elections—mainly using paper ballots. The U.S. is currently incapable of holding a trustworthy election.

My other beef is that democracy does not scale well. In small groups, my vote counts. But how much does my vote really count in a country of a 150 million voters. I’m not a fan of large modern nation-states, because each one is a dangerous monster. There were once 6000 diverse languages and cultures on the planet. I think returning to a much more decentralized world will not only be a lot safer, but we are also a lot more likely to find a culture/country that resonates with our individual preferences. BTW, my ideal country will have representative democracy, but the elections will be fanatically clean.

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Representative democracy is oxymoronic.

Democracy doesn't require elections, just polls to determine whose rights the majority wants to deny.

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And how are you going to get there? Let others make sure the elections are fantastically clean? That doesn’t compute. It’s the only thing in Caitlin’s column I disagree with—when she mourns the idea that we are victims and some else is at fault. I’m not anybody’s victim. I got here because of the choices I made. I didn’t bother to take responsibility—which is what it’s about in a representative democracy—for say, the voting machines that Bush put in. To make an uproar and try to stop it. In my town, in my sphere of influence. And I know I’m risking setting a lot of people’s hair on fire, and getting lots of torch-wielding villagers coming to my inbox, but it’s stupid to blame others for your helplessness. Accept it. It’s empowering. (And don’t give me the “you’re blaming the victim” crap. There are no victims in this empire. Just some pampered gutless wonders)

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Not the "if you can't beat them join them" one.

Just like refusing to participate in their propaganda efforts by ignoring what they offer one can also refuse to participate in the corrupt voting/election system. When one participates knowingly in something they know is broken beyond repair one endorses it.

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Nothing breaks better than total corruption.

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“Signing away rights to the Palestinians” ?? Did you mean “sign away rights of the Palestinians?” Or did you mean Israel was giving the Palestinians some undeserved “rights?” The latter makes no sense—prepositions are small but make a huge difference.

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Yes, grammar does "make a huge difference". The difference between clarity and confusion.

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When it comes to Israel it seems one has to pay homage to Israel and it's forever policy of extermination of it's Palestinian population , whose land they were given after WWII. However I am fully aware the Zionist movement was long in effect before the second world war.

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That’s an interesting take on the Trump presidency. I’m definitely not a fan, but I loved watching everyone lose their minds. I appreciated his disruption of the old guard.

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I don't know if it's his ego, or this is how you go about being an elected official in Washington, that is following an agenda set in place many decades ago. In his CNN interview he kept repeating how the death has got to stop no matter what. Not a Linsey Graham ass, and I would love to call him more then an ass since this ass pushes death while he sits on his where it's nice and safe. I cannot stand him.

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Feral Finster: Ahh yes, the "economic pie". Is the pie real? My pay stubs were. The government took 30% of my wages. Seems like a big slice of the pie to me.

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Way to miss the point.

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Define "economic pie". Another bullshit myth from the leftist socialist economists.

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I call it Synapse Softening. particularly taking the form of: "You can consume your way into happiness with more spending" . . . and more desirable products. All I have to do is bring forth the scads of half-assed commercial jingles that remain in my brain 50 years later --- for beer, toothpaste, shampoo, automobiles, etc. Like still inflamed, festering boils, occasionally these mundane musical recollections suddenly surface, spewing their pus of capitalist consumption into my consciousness completely bypassing my volition. They are signposts of the lifetime of enslaved battering my psyche has taken from Massa Money that has softened my brain's resistance to that general theme: You, slave, are primarily a consumer.

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It is the fact that the " half-assed commercial jingles remain in (your) brain 50 years later" that testifies to their efficacy half a century ago.

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Yes: "Super suds, super suds, lots more suds with super suds...."

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I never saw that but my Mother used to sing it every now and then. "They are full of super do."

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Whiteness like you've never seen, leaves your clothes so super clean.

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Here's another one for you: "Smooth and sleek the un-curly permanent." The melody for that line in the jingle was stolen from the Glenn Miller swing tune, "American Patrol". Might've been a Prell product. Can't remember that, but that line and the jingle are stuck in my brain for the duration.

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Remembering, however, that the most common cause of washing machine failures is caused by oversudsing.

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Resistance is futile!

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Not completely. Ultimately, one takes a radical approach as if extirpating a brain parasite. Kill your TV, use every ad blocker available, even pay for music streaming simply to avoid ads. Of course, you're right; it's still only a 90% solution. The ad-zombies know how to do "gotcha" and they're paid to be relentless. And sadly, all that accumulated junk of the past absorbed by one's youthful sponge-brain is almost impossible to purge.

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Yeah, but it's tough. I remember the days when one could roam the internet free of corporate ads and censorship. Even youtube was free of the brain parasitical propaganda. Now, almost every time I click on a youtube video, a corporate ad appears - sometimes as long as 4 minutes (apparently the corporations no longer have any kind of regulations on length of ads). Also, if you do actually pay attention to the ads - the way they get your attention is obnoxious as fuck - someone eating something, grating sound effects or music, obnoxious goofball visuals etc. You probably already know the drill.

So agree, trying to get away from the brain washing is a chore and a half in itself. I've managed to purge myself of watching all Mainstream news media outlets - unless they are being commented on by Indie news commentators. I got rid of cable some time ago. You do what you can. Getting out in the country frequently helps as well.

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What I've noticed long ago is that by having trained myself to dismiss the ads and similar material I found I also would skip something useful now and again. Also, losing the ability to concentrate and summarize better since many bits are just assumed irrelevant whereas some of it may well be.

I'm pretty sure they've researched such effects and taken measures in their favor. They do track everything and study it.

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Brilliant. Thank you for solutions instead of blaming others for your choices!!!!

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What choices? Same kind of shit when we hear everyone has "access" to health care in the US. What they don't tell you is you'll likely go bankrupt if you want to see a doctor or have surgery. #1 reason why Americans go bankrupt in US: health care costs. But, hey, Jeano here says we got choices!

You got choices! Them railway workers got choices! Either quit your job or accept unsafe working conditions and corporate serf pay while you're worked to death. You got choices! I mean, you had a choice - you either voted for Joe Biden or Donald Trump! You had choices! You got to choose! And you chose Joe Biden - that's YOUR FAULT.

You got choices!!

Brilliant Jeano. You're a genius!

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"health care in the US" - Drug care in the US.

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It looks that way but this too is what they want you to feel and think. Often it takes some triggering event but the status quo is unsustainable and some of the 1% know it; and are stupidly buying up basic needs like housing as if this protects them. We need to plan collectively and quietly an entirely different scenario and then take undetectable steps to implement it and be hyper aware.

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Yuri Podolyaka :

Today, it seems, was a day of revelations (or rather, yesterday).

" The Russians are dying, and this is the best thing we've ever spent money on " - US Senator Lindsey Graham.

Help for residents of Ukraine (you just haven't fully understood yet, it seems): for Americans, we are all Russians. And those tens of thousands of Ukrainians who died in this war, this is also for the American senator "the best thing he spent the money of American taxpayers on."

P.S. I want to say to "American taxpayers" that the boomerang is an insidious thing. And he has the ability to return. I'll be very sorry, but when he returns, don't say "why us?"

Zin Note: I didn't vote for him, but as an American, I'm acutely aware of how those that have been elected to represent us behave. Honestly, when the consequences come to my home shores, I'll know why, and I won't be scratching my head. I wish only for my countrymen to wake up from this slumber of apathy and ignorance.

A staggering study of US history has undoubtedly proven since 1776 out of 247 years, 225 years (roughly 93%) the US was directly involved in wars and conflicts all over the world. the US has undertaken almost 400 military interventions and invasions including 200 of which took place between 1950 and 2019, of those 200 more than 100 have taken place during the post-Cold War era between 1991 and 2019.

"The post-Cold War era has produced fewer great power conflict and circumstances in which to defend vital US interests. yet US military interventions continue at high rates and higher hostilities," the study concluded.

The US military interventions "increasingly" target the Middle East and Africa: more than a quarter of the country's campaigns throughout its history. US involvements in wars, invasions, and regime changes around the world.

Instances of the United States "liberated" overthrown or attempting to overthrow a foreign government since World War 2

(* indicates successful ouster of a gov).. "Please forgive me for missing to list a country(s)"

China 1949 to early 1960s

Albania 1949-53

East Germany 1950s

Iran 1953 *

Guatemala 1954 *

Costa Rica mid-1950s

Syria 1956-7

Egypt 1957

Indonesia 1957-8

British Guiana 1953-64 *

Iraq 1963 *

North Vietnam 1945-73

Cambodia 1955-70 *

Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *

Ecuador 1960-63 *

Congo 1960 *

France 1965

Brazil 1962-64 *

Dominican Republic 1963 *

Cuba 1959 to present

Bolivia 1964 *

Indonesia 1965 *

Ghana 1966 *

Chile 1964-73 *

Greece 1967 *

Costa Rica 1970-71

Bolivia 1971 *

Australia 1973-75 *

Angola 1975, 1980s

Zaire 1975

Portugal 1974-76 *

Jamaica 1976-80 *

Seychelles 1979-81

Chad 1981-82 *

Grenada 1983 *

South Yemen 1982-84

Suriname 1982-84

Fiji 1987 *

Libya 1980s

Nicaragua 1981-90 *

Panama 1989 *

Bulgaria 1990 *

Albania 1991 *

Iraq 1991

Afghanistan 1980s *

Somalia 1993

Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *

Ecuador 2000 *

Afghanistan 2001 *

Venezuela 2002 *

Iraq 2003 *

Haiti 2004

Somalia 2007 to present

Honduras 2009 *

Libya 2011 *

Syria 2012

Ukraine 2014 *

Pakistan 2022 *

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ChiComs will Do the Same, and have Done Much Worse to their Own People. Certainly the USSA has much blood on it's hands. I think the "American" Civil War was a Tragedy, caused by the Great Emancipator Lincoln, the First American Dictator.

I also agree with General S. Butler, "War is a Racket" written in 1935 to little avail.

Welcome to Planet Earth and Human Folly as the way of Life. Perfection is UnObtainable, despite the propaganda of ALL the Isms.

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America has never had a civil war, the war between the states having been between the USA and the CSA.

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You are correct, as the Confederacy never desired to Replace the Feral DC Gubmint, which is the definition of a "civil war", The correct term would be The War for Southern Independence.

Perhaps again in some form, not identical, but when the Feral DC Gubmint goes "belly up" Broke, some form of regional/ local government may evolve that hopefully respects the original founding principles of individual liberty, with basic morality.

https://genearly.substack.com/p/surrounded-by-treason-betrayed-by?sd=pf

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The US Government declared bankruptcy in 1933, making everyone and everything the collateral in a bailout funded by the City of London, with is NOT the city named London, but the financial district based there that has controlled all American economies since.

Congressman Trafficant was sent to prison because he exposed this scam on the floor of Congress, to put it on the record.

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Too Deep in the Weeds. The Peoples of this USSA don't even know the basics of government, economics, or family.

https://genearly.substack.com/p/buzzard-party-wins-again?sd=pf

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As was intended by the adoption of John Dewey's educational philosophies.

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Maybe, but highly unlikely they would project their power military. They lack warrior ethos, UNLIKE for example Japanese.

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Japanese lack warrior ethos?

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UNLIKE...

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Good catch!

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Perfection based on THE HUMAN MIND certainly....

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Well the Human Mind seems to be model we are stuck with at present

https://genearly.substack.com/p/buzzard-party-wins-again?sd=pf

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THIS BELIEF SYSTEM IS THE ROAD TO DESTRUCTION - any HUMAN MIND that is not ABLE (!!!) to recognise that is "doomed"! Even though sounding like a threat it is rather a prediction and ALWAYS has been!

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Agreed. Beam me up, Scotty. This Planet Earth is just Insane!

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Nothing to beam - it is right here and right now since the beginning of SPACE AND TIME. BTW no HUMAN MIND can force it though! The INSANITY you mean - I suppose - that can be observed is simply the symptom/result of THE A-SYNCHRONICITY of THE HUMAN MIND - THE TOOL - with THE SOURCE - GOD ALMIGHTY! THE ONGOING WAR between THE HUMAN MIND and GOD ALMIGHTY being materialised by GOD ALMIGHTY as promised!

WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART IS GOING TO BE ON YOUR MIND IS GOING TO COME INTO EXISTENCE! PURE CAUSALITY AND COHERENCE/CONSISTENCY!

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This is TRUE JOURNALISM!

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Thanks for this great categorization of different types of propaganda. I think that's very useful. I've been thinking that we're living through the most psychologically stressful time perhaps in history. Gaslighting on such a vast and comprehensive scale has never before been possible. Recognize, everyone, how strong and competent you are just getting through the day with your sanity intact. Be kind to yourself in all the ways you can and give other people the benefit of the doubt, even when they can't see what you can. These are very isolating times.

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Few people have the time or the inclination to see beyond the bounds of the Overton window. Most are concerned with taking care of themselves and/or their families in a world that makes it increasingly difficult to do so. Many may get a glimpse here or there of things outside that window, but that glimpse isn't enough to take them down that other path that leads to a whole other world that looks very little like the one they're accustomed to. It's nearly impossible for them to take even that first tentative step.

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Propaganda is often subliminal and to the untrained eye it appears nothing more than an innocent and positive message. It is also wrapped in patriotism and ideology. Interestingly it is also contradicting. For example, work hard go through the horrible economic system that is capitalism and succeed. Notice both parties send different messages but both make the United States out to be the good guy in everything. That everything we do is for the greater good of the world(ideology). We bomb nations and overthrow their governments for their own good! ;) Sure....Also war is good, especially for the economy. What kind of psychopaths can justify it morally without a direct threat? Notice that everything that is supposed to benefit you, really benefits the empire. Propaganda is designed for mass influence. Voting is meaningless because we don't vote on anything meaningful or for any truly non-empire sponsored candidate. At the end of the day...Propaganda looks pretty normal because as you mentioned, we are fed it every day from the day we are born. Mike Sygula of Truth Theory on youtube is a good presenter on this, too.

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Right? Like when Madeleine Albright goes on 60 minutes and says killing half a million Iraqi children was worth it. What a fucking asshole and so is everyone else who supports that ideology. These people have no shame.

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Mostly Agree, but hard Work never hurt anyone mentally, and I'm not feeding you/them or them/their a$$ets willingly, which begets another set of consequences; otherwise I like.

Profit motivation may be imperfect but compared to the other systems is wonderful.

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This is an important and clear explanation. Thank you

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From a personal point of view,in many respects i was able to see something within the mainstream that was not right,even at a young age.I was sceptical about MSM from school age.Why is this,why was my father not so .I dont feel it's intelligence necessarily,i am baffled why so many are taken in,bright people amongst them.Why did i know wrestling on the tv was choreographed whilst my dad didn't.So it is no surprise the people go along withit,but my question is,amongst the elites ,how many believe there own shit?,the Aristocracy being born to rule, for example..

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Gary Lee: Us kids in Catholic School learned about propaganda at an early age.

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Gary Lee: A kid in our class in Lincoln, NE had a father who was a wrestler. All of us kids knew that wrestling was a choreographed show with fake blood and all. We'd go to the matches and help our friend set up the ring and props.

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Just one example of people being hoodwinked,it goes on so much.Some can see that something is not right,some can't.I noticec reporting in the mainstream papers was a merry go round of reporting,no real analysis but propagandaof a sort.

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Gary Lee:

Intelligence questions, My belief is narcissism, lack of empathy and indoctrination from kindergarten (education) along with Capt. Crunch ads.

Wrestling -

At 6 years old I couldn't figure out the bouncing off the ropes bit. But I did like Haystack Calhoun.

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Brilliant! You captured nearly all of it.

I"m convinced the only way to combat this is to make these authorities unimportant. When enough of us no longer pay attention and let these authorities direct us and our behavior, they will no longer have power over us.

I don't know how to do that yet. But I will find a way.

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Brilliant piece

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Well, considering that the Banking Cartels and Western Governments are trying to cover up a 50 + Trillion dollar theft/cover up- the propaganda has to be 24/7 nonstop and as raunchy as it gets. When they look in their mirrow - they don't see guilt - they see dollar signs. lol

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Excellent!!! Keep on repeating bits and pieces of this superb meditation on propaganda every time you write, Caitlin. The sin of omission furthers the propagandist the most. We must cultivate the habit of asking - What is the missing piece here? What isn't being addressed/included? and How come?

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Omission is one of the most insidious type of lies for sure.

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AUUUUGGGH!!! (Charlie Brown rendition)

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What the heck do you think most marketing consists of? Propaganda of some type at some level. The competition is extreme for most products and services and as we are seeing more and more, it's all about the money.

Much of big business is now controlled by leftist interests and anti-competition in the form of less and less free marketing. It has become controlled and targeted marketing where propaganda is introduced in various ways.

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But why do companies and corporations engage in marketing at all? It’s because the people WANT to shop. Its the universal Empire drug. Don’t feel good? Go shopping. Bush was smart when he said after 9/11 that we should ignore the “conspiracy theories” and go shopping. And people dutifully did. Not because it was great propaganda but because they wanted to. We willingly handcuff ourselves to the radiator and then complain of the heat.

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This pretty much boils down to: blame the poor for being poor, because they are responsible for their poverty. It's an ideology as old as feudalism, because those with obscene amounts of wealth - the aristocrats living in their castles during the middle ages back then - had to justify how they hoarded their wealth over the rest of the laboring serfs. And the way they justified it, then (and now) - was to blame the poor for being poor, and not the rottenness of the system itself as obscenely exploitative and ruthless to the masses, so a few could live with the vast majority of the generated resources of labor.

It's the same kind of argument of blaming the cotton picking slaves of the South for being slaves - it was their own fault that they were being exploited ruthlessly by the plantation owners. If it's your own fault for being poor, or a slave, the wealthy then can argue that their accumulation of an obscene amount of the resources is perfectly justified and deserved.

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A good expose' of the controlling mass media world and the people saturated daily. Even this expose' could be "Used" to undermine people's self determinism because there must be "something" reliable to measure, and compare other data to.

Historically, for what it's worth currently, people used the New Testament of the Bible, the Bill of "Inherent" Rights of the US Constitution, as Stable Data to then measure and compare other ideas and data.

So I then could conclude that Pedophilia, Gender Surgeries, Multiple Pro-noun Identifiers, Paper/CBDC's are Tools of OppreSSion, and NWO Wars of Blood (ours) and Profit (theirs), and Centralized Feral Gubmint is Tyrannical and Leads to Needless Deaths vis NWO Plandemics and their "Cures" via VaXXXes.

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"If you think the system is dysfunctional, you're the dysfunctional one."

For years I thought I was the "dysfunctional one" and not the system. At last my eyes were opened and I realized just how much I'd been f-ed over by the corrupt capitalist system and how little f-ing over I'd ever done in my life. Instant relief! Of course, now I have to convince others that the corrupt capitalist system is the cause of the majority of ills in this world, and I'm accused of still being "dysfunctional" but I wear the label with pride. There needs to be more of us in order for the things to get "functional" again.

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You too?

You beat me to posting the same post by 17 minutes. Oh well.

If you figure out how to switch the dysfunctional part around, please let me know (even with 1 person). Maybe a 2X4 to the side of the head?

Most of our society is dysfunctional and is the new "normal".

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Another great article Catlin. I think this is already dangerous area with propaganda not only being used overtly by government departments and the press, making it harder to have an informed, impartial view on anything. A more sinister covert use is propaganda as a social engineering tool. Not only are social platforms full of misinformation and disinformation but governments employing departments to do this. A new British Army Regiment has been formed solely to push the party line. Why in uniform is a curiosity as the 5k staff at GCHQ are all civilian.

More disturbing is ‘chat bots’ who automatically detect comments on social platforms then insert pre conceived comments putting spin on the topic. I believe we are on the cusp of a new age of AI computers that will be deployed thus. It’s bad enough having people put spin on things but AI programmes covering the entire Webb 24/7 pushing propaganda is dangerous. People already have absurd notions and niavity that governments are there to look after their interests when they are just puppets working for the elite.

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No worries on chatgt yet. I like to read the news articles comments on yahoo. When the spelling, grammar and sentence structure improve beyond third grade level is when we need to worry.

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You mean, when it gets beyond third grade level, then we know it's AI-created?

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Correct. Guess I should have been more explicit.

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