Lest anyone in any western country still think that they have any rights that power respects.
Pretend that Winstanley recieved such treatment in Russia or any other country that the Empire doesn't like. Every MSM touch hole would be proclaiming themselves to be Asa Winstanley. But since it's the UK and he's criticizing Israel, he's a terrorist.
We all know Weimar Germany was bankrupt, with hyperflation. Then Hitler comes to power, and *SOMEBODY* lends Germany enough money to rebuild a war machine almost powerful enough to defeat Europe and Russia within just a few years.
Where did all this money come from? Aliens?
Only 3 countries had spare capital - Britain, US, and France.
It Is quite amusing to think the French partly financed their own invasion, because the German military staff wasn't foolish enough to invade Russia without securing their rear first.
And, of course, this answers a whole range of other mysteries, why Hess flew to London, why Britain and America pootled around until it was obvious Russia had beaten Germany before invading the Continent, and indeed why Hitler invaded Russia at all - those debts were coming due, and much like today, the Anglo Empire needed collateral for its own debts.
Lol, when you consider the hysteria that even mentioning Prescott Bush brings, imagine the response to a claim that Nazi Germany was entirely funded and armed by the West.
But all you have to do is ask: who DID fund Germany's military rise? And isn't it so funny that no establishment "History" book ever explored this obvious question?
According to William Shirer -- an expert if there ever was one -- the french oligarchy wanted the Nazi invasion in order to put down labor. "Better Hitler than Blum" was their motto. It worked.
Blum was a socialist Jew: of course meilleur Hitler que Blum. Better for business. I've read the same in several places. Pattern of the ultrawealthy throwing support behind authoritarian preservers of their status quo is both logical to feudalist-capitalist ethos and reiterated throughout history.
It was always and still is: better fascism than communism, which includes the destruction of unions and the continuous pushback against socialism today. The plutocracy fears a people’s revolution.
The Western allies invaded in 1944 for two reasons:
1. to secure their piece of the EUROPEAN pie and prevent the Russians from overrunning the entire continent, in particular France.
2. to secure as much of the German Advanced Weapons, Industrial Technology and hoards of stolen wealth as possible before the Russians could get to it.
Britain and the USA were "joined at the hip" by the latter's almost total dependence on MI6 and British intelligence for information. This is why the CIA was formed after the war.
Both Governments underestimated Stalin and the Soviet's ability and determination to defeat NAZI Germany alone, on the ground. The USA and Britain would have been perfectly happy to continue to bomb and sea blockade what remained of the 3rd Reich into dust and starvation, to avoid a commitment of US/British ground troops altogether. In 1943 it became increasingly clear to Roosevelt and Churchill that Stalin had very little motivation to stop at the Rhine River while defeating the NAZI's. It became apparent that the West needed to step in with massive ground armies on the Western Continent to keep the Soviet Expansion in check. This was the primordial NATO alliance.
Yes I believe that. I have heard that Henry Ford was a real antisemite and Charles Lindbergh was pro Nazi before WW2 broke out as was Edward, King George Vl’s brother, was pro Nazi.
Joseph Kennedy had his own daughter, Rosemary, put in a mental institution where she endured shock treatments and a partial lobotomy, I believe. Very cruel man indeed. These people have no hearts, no souls.
The US Automakers were one of the prime investors. Henry Ford was a rabid anti-Semite. Ford, GM and many other US companies played both sides of the fence from 1933 till 1945.
I just read a piece about a few wealthy Zionist Jews that bought their freedom from the Nazis in exchange for outing the rest of their village knowing hundreds would be sent to a death camp.
The important thing is it's working for them. Ask the Brits about Winstanley and most probably never heard of him. And if they learn about the event from the news they likely agree with the treatment.
To say nothing of the rest of the world. There can be no greater example than Assange who finally decided he'd had enough of the impotent "freedom-loving" public not giving a damn about the "freedoms" they supposedly have.
Yes and the “narratives” may have been few and far between if the Western newspapers and journalists had supported Assange’s cause and fought en masse against his empire jailers. Silence was deadly.
Outstanding as always, Caitlin. This double standard is on Full display with Israel's arrest of GrayZone journalist Jeremy Loffredo. You here crickets from the state department, however, when American journalist Even Gershkovich was arrested by Russia there was a state department led media barrage about what barbarians the Russians are for the arrest.
Regardless of who wins the election in a few weeks, I wouldn't expect anything to change considering the lavish campaign contributions received by both candidates from pro-israel warhawks.
Glenn Greenwald did an excellent piece about Miriam Adelson and her third quarter, 100 million dollar donation to the Trump campaign as well as instances where Trump openly admits to doing whatever she says because she holds the purse strings, I'm paraphrasing.
Well said. Western governments flipped out when Russia invaded Ukraine and they sent them lots of weapons to fight Russia, but there was crickets from them when Israel invaded Gaza and then Lebanon. No western countries rushed to send Lebanon weapons or put sanctions on Israel. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
The USA made a deal with the devil (Israel) after 9/11. Why Wall Street - the money? Why the Pentagon - the military? Why not just target the Whitehouse?
Since 9/11 Israeli "intelligence" put America on the warpath (Iraq, Afghanistan,etc.) fighting Israels enemies, not ours. What benefit does the USA get from killing Arab Muslims on the other side of the world? IDK
I’d suggest the timing on this is off. The Zionist Neocons have been in positions of power and influence starting way before 9/11. That just gave them the opportunity to begin implementing the plans they already had. They botched everything they’ve ever touched. Nothing new about that.
People say that "Western countries" have more "freedom" than other countries. Defenders of the West, please tell me HOW these countries have MORE freedom than China, Russia, India, etc.?
From what I observe, "FREEDOM in the West" has been an ILLUSION for a long time - it is ONLY permitted as long as people DON'T go against the interests of the Empire, the Oligarchy, the Global Capitalists. It seems that once you step over that line, "freedom" no longer has any meaning/application.
When will people in the WEST wake up? When someone comes for them? When it's too late? What will it take to WAKE THEM UP??? War on American soil? Genocide on American soil?
There can be individual mind, and group mind. As individuals, your average Westerner will bitch like chattering birds about the lack of genuine free speech AND democracy - put them into a bunch, and the lifetime of indoctrination and mnemonics kicks in, and they hear themselves cheer stupidly when the key phrases appear about how the West is the Best.
No doubt a similar pattern emerges in nearly every country, 1984 scenes spring to mind, along with the 2001 BNW, and even 'The Prisoner' ep 'The General'. However, as with the USSR, eventually a tipping point is reached, and the citizens are so privately disillusioned, despite public displays of loyalty, they no longer believe in the regime.
Low productivity is a key indicator when this is reached.
The UK & US have TERRIBLE productivity, and this is not solely due to low investments for decades.
Thing is, the Western regimes are BY FAR the most brutal regimes in the World, many knew it already, but the Holocaust in Gaza as brought it home perhaps to most. To rise up is to invite retaliation. Even just critical voices are being threatened and silenced, let alone activists.
Westerners are living in authoritarian regimes. Borderline totalitarian.
I think about 1984 a lot these days. When I was a kid, I thought the plot interesting but incredibly far-fetched. Now i realize that Orwell was a genius(I consider home a true prophet), and find that reality is so absurd that I’m constantly questioning my own sanity. This article brings to mind the quote from 1984:
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
We must do everything to combat their control of the present (narrative). At times it seems hopeless (when my friends parrot the official narrative despite being presented with evidence that it’s all a lie). But if we despair, they win. We know. As long as we know, and refuse to be silenced, they can’t win.
I suspect that his "Letting the cat out of the bag" in 1984, so to speak, threw a directed spanner into their works. A spanner that jangled them for several decades - until the CIA and other security apparatus figured they had so much control, it didn't even matter if the plebs could see what was happening anyway.
Facial rec, RFID chips, total surveillance, control of the courts (see the show trials of Assange & Trump), stitched up political system, media OBVIOUSLY, - all the levers of liberal society are in their malevolent hands. A ban on marches and demonstrations, targeted attacks on organisers and 'influencers', propaganda pouring in from every direction (Now assisted by AI), a Public that doesn't know it's arse from its elbow, but whose first emotional reaction to everything is outrage. With no intellectual depth, historical analysis (Let alone Class analysis), and addicted to their daily 'Minutes of Hate' - now not only tabloid junkies.
He was indeed, a prophet - and one who used his prophetic vision to try to stop Apocalypse.
There is one sliver of hope, and that is BRICS. Orwell's vision requires 3 blocs in never-ending warfare. Fortunately, the Zionists are actually complete morons along with being psychopaths. They took charge of Western countries, but their obtuse murderous stupidity lead to Russia and China forming an alliance instead.
Whether it will survive the passing of Xi and Putin remains to be seen, and even longer term, the collapse of the Western system in entirety - without the exigent constant threat.
But those two men seem to grasp the depth of the problem quite well. If they can rewrite Eurasia into one peaceful bloc, humanity has a chance to avoid the fate Orwell laid out.
How the rest of the World will view Westerners in the future doesn't bear thinking about. It's the past 400+ years of "Imperialism", with mega-deaths that make the Nazis Holocaust look like childs-play.
Hi -on a different thread, Gnuneo. Yes Westerners are in 'authoritarian' or nearly 'totalitarian' regimes, though not, of course, restricted by iron chains, but by the silver chains of propaganda, which can be very subtle.
Everything that's in the news is there for a reason. The latest well publicised round of 'assaults' on free speech come from talking heads like John Kerry (at the very useful idiots WEF) and from Hiliary Clinton. They are deliberate and appear to show that censorship is coming from outside, from 'globalists'. The threat is not from our own countries. This encourages nationalism and people like Matt Taibbi to set up the 'Return the Republic' as well as adding grist to the mill of Britain's very own MAGA party- Reform.
The fake pandemic beautifully set up mistrust of global cooperative attempts trying to mitigate the climate crisis (and harm fossil fuels and animal ag's profits). There was some 'covid' censorship on YT and twitter and speakers at rallies were arrested and then released next day, but it was all very performative. It worked for the narrative.
The major exception is of course Assange. This was not performative. The powers (the arms, oil, pharma, animal ag cartels) were actually threatened by him. Very much against the narrative. He revealed it was not, in fact, left wing globalists who are a threat to us. The threat is the cartels who benefit from nationalism and support for the western patriarchy. These are the ones who control what we see and hear each day and who can predict our reactions to it.
I would say we ARE restricted by iron chains - those activists are facing 5-20 YEARS in prison for their political activities - aren't they 'political prisoners'?
I would say the threat is both International (Globalists), AND National (CIA patsies like Reform, AfD, le Pen, and needless to add MI5 patsies like "Tommeh"). The left hand may try to divert attention onto the right hand, but they are all controlled from the same source - offshored.
Yes, the performative "pandemic" fit into their plans like the 3rd to last jigsaw piece, from propaganda (against "The Left" supposedly pushing the fear-porn narrative... and I know MANY lefties who fell for this trick too, as well as the idiot rightwingers), to social control (The Police have to keep you in your homes for your own benefit, AND know everyone you meet in any situation). Let alone the "We are keeping you safe from dangerous misinformation" line of malarkey.
Poor Assange. I was a fan from early on, and what was done to him was obviously a "Message" to the rest of us. I'm more than glad he's free, and although now journalism is now illegal due to the plea bargain, there aren't any journalists left in the corporate media so we won't see any difference.
Pretty much everyone I follow for news is now nervously considering moving to Russia - what a turn around.
As I have mentioned on more that one occasion on these pages, it will need a war on American soil, or in the very least a couple of submarines sitting of the US east coast to make Americans realise that one missile in their domain could end all their tomorrows.
Ask the Japanese in Hiroshima. It's called 'facing reality', but effective.
Not that I am any more aware of world events than any other commentator on these pages, but for many years I constantly bombarded the Russian Embassy in my country to sign an agreement with Iran knowing that what is happening now was always going to happen. Israel's antagonism towards that country. always evident. Iran has always been seen by most of the world as the best educated and stable country in the Middle East and as such, always likely to be a threat to the grand plan (with the US at its back, of course) of the modern day Barbarians, known as Israelis.
But it didn't happen.
Can you imagine Netanyahu throwing his weight around as the newly self-appointed real estate agent for Washington knowing that one step out of line, that line perhaps a stated Russian Redline, could bring the stolen lands of Palestine, a.k.a Israel (just a temporary name) into even more of a pile of rubble that we see today in Gaza.
Perhaps just one or two bombs would be enough and today, such an act would be welcomed by so many .......all but the Western leaders, Scholtz, Starmer, Albanese and the rest of them.
But, it didn't happen.
Then as a failed advocate for international peace, I considered that China and Russia could form an alliance as well, but now wiser (that should be 'older') enough to know that if one couldn't convince Russia to read my pleas, then there would be less chance of success with Russia and China.
Mission not accomplished as a result. Hence we still have the rampaging Stromtroopers in Tel Aviv frightening the daylights out of all in the Middle East, now expanding into seeing American troops on the ground in Israel, anxious for the whole tinderbox area to develop to a warzone.
Now if those American troops are killed, "accidentally" by Israel like the UN Peacekeepers may soon be, aid workers have been along with UN workers, doctors and on, Netanyahu will apologise and then promise yet another Israeli "internal investigation" into the matter. Don't expect a detailed result of that investigation though. We have been waiting for an explanation into the 1967 USS Liberty bombing by Israel and the killing of so many American sailors on that day.
Yes, 8th June, 1967. everyone. Still waiting
The day that Israel knew that the US was an obvious pushover. How right they were. They have never looked back since that date.
Is that humiliating, America? So much more since then swept under the carpet, dismissed and ignored. They are in every corridor, in the Senate, the House, thousands as Public Servants, spies, fellow travellers, neocons, politicians by the hundreds with up to 400 nuclear weapons, (thanks Lyndon), all there to serve the USA, Israel's new colony.
I have long maintained that Amerikkka needs a war on our very soil in order to persuade ordinary Murkins, Meh, guess war ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.
If it results in some of our deaths, who gives a flying fuck? We ain’t sepshunal. And if it turns Amerikkka towards peace it would be more than worth it.
I am suggesting an online fundraiser to counter the graft and corruption that determines the political outcomes in the USA
We'll call it Anti-PACS. Looking for an ex-President as a figurehead but to date have yet to find one in whose time reigning over the American people hasn't resulted in millions of deaths in other countries. As a result, credibility lost.
The idea was good. Supporting this backdown was the continual references by others of the USA's history of wars for hegemony and power.
We won’t find an ex-president who would fit the bill, unless we resurrect JFK. But there are former Congressmen who would: Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich come to mind.
When I was returning from Denver recently, I received what I considered to be an invasive pat down at the airport. I kept setting off the alarm; it was CLEAR that it was because of my artificial hip. When a woman arrived to do the procedure, she asked me if I wanted a room. I replied, No, just do it right here where everyone else can see you patting down a 70-year-old woman.
She felt under my hair, in my back pockets, even under my bra! I told her to quit getting so fucking personal: I felt like I had nothing to lose at the time.
Nobody, but NOBODY, can tell me that didn’t happen because of the websites I frequent and my calls for revolution.
Next they're going to tell us that we didn't see a beautiful 19-year Palestinian teenager named Sha'ban al-Dalou burned alive before our eyes. We must all be delusional. Not them, certainly. The only democracy in the Middle East wouldn't do that -- or lie about its complicity in such horrific acts.
Ruled by a cabal of psychopaths. They and their disgusting henchmen in the “security apparatus” will go to any lengths to maintain the wholesale slaughter and starvation. By any measure, we are ruled by full-blown Nazis. But moves like this expose how scared they are of losing their grip on power. But that grip on power relies on the ability to control what people think. This grip is dissolving before their eyes.
I disagree, I think the dissolution of the EU, and of the Empire and of even the United States itself may work in favour of the real power holders, the supranational companies. I don't think they're scared, i think they're just warming up. The've got us thinking that government and ridiculous rules are the problem. They're looking forward to world with no rules at all.
These people are CHOOSING to participate in, and materially, contribute to genocide.
But not it's the journalists who expose them that get harassed? Everyone living in the "west" had better wake up to the fact that zionist capture of these governments will get all the native people there treated like how the zionists treat the Palestinians. No rights. Human animals.
Oh and Karp plans to make money on that too, starting with your biometrics:
Reality NEVER wins out - throughout human history. The human brain works on stories and narratives. Reality is often ugly and inconvenient. Whole industries have sprung up to help people NOT see "reality" (pharmaceuticals, public relations, advertising, marketing, entertainment, and more).
This is just the beginning. Harris has mentioned doing the same exact thing with using police officers to enforce violations that pertain to social media. The 'tok tok ban' isn't about enemies of the state, it is about controlling the narrative, which you have platforms outside of one's control, propaganda is less effective. The notion of encouraging terrorism is very shady, what did he write to warrant the warrant? Criticism of Israel is not encouraging terrorism. Just like when I say, stop arming Israel with US weapons and end genocide, it doesn't encourage terrorism. When Bilken and Romney talked about newspapers and TV, the government chiefly controls those...ironic ;)When people have free speech, both the narrative and propaganda are less effective.
You're right about it is getting worse. Jimmy Dore just put out a video (see link below) that the Pentagon has gotten rid of The Posse Comitatus Act, which since 1878, has banned the US military from deploying against American citizens and/or to use lethal force against Americans.
Because they are about to steal the election if necessary and they won’t have another Jan 6th for the world to see their lack of legitimacy. They will NEVER allow Trump back into power.
Here’s the first part of the “support for terrorism” law: “(1A)A person commits an offence if the person—
(a)expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation,” There’s a low bar “and” portion that follows: “reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support a proscribed organisation. Given an email subscription or a YouTube watcher can’t be assessed, perhaps that’s the very definition of “reckless.” Pretty scary how overreaching this law is.
We’ll never know what actually happened on 10/7 as it’s not in Israel’s interest to be forthcoming with any real numbers. How many of the 1,200 bodies were Hamas? How many were soldiers or police? How many died as a result of panicked helicopter pilots firing hellfire rockets? The first days had more information and pictures than now. Then the lies started coming and drowned out everything else.
One thing I've noticed is that the first day, news media kept saying it was "Israel's 9/11." An obvious comparison. But then maybe someone pointed out that at least half of Americans think 9/11 was at least partly an inside job; within a week I saw speculation that Mossad knew exactly what was planned for 10/7, and either folded it's hands and looked away, or even gave active assistance to the plan. This seems very likely tome given that Mossad is infamous for its ruthlessness, thoroughness, spies all over the world but nowhere surveilled as thoroughly as Gaza. And the fact that Palestinian Gaza was standing in the way of Israel's exploiting its offshore gas field and keeping all the money--and of its plan to run a canal to compete with the Suez just past Gaza's northern border...and of its desire to replace Palestiinian Gazans with Jewish settlers. Irrefutable evidence that they deliberately decided to sacrifice a thousand Jews to justify a war of ethnic cleansing, which would still necessarily be as visibly horrific as necessary to "force" Egypt or others to take on a million or more refugees (but Egypt firmly refused)--such evidence might be the one thing that would cost the Zionazis the support of Israelis.
"Empire managers are always acutely aware of something that normal human beings are not: that real power comes from manipulating the stories — narratives — that people tell themselves about their reality."
Then we'll have to use their very own weapon against these "empire managers". We have to take control of the narrative and manage it so there's no doubt that we're in control. We have to keep repeating the truth repeatedly until it is the ONLY narrative that the masses hear and accept. It's exhausting work, but we owe it to journalists like Asa Winstanley and Richard Medhurst who are facing ridiculous charges of "aiding terrorists". Pffft!! We all know who the true terrorists are, don't we?
The charges are both much less than “aiding””,” and far worse, as it is such a low bar. The language is “a)expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation,”
Consider this: they hand the information harvested from Asa Winstanley’s devices to the spook network, which not only is a massive breach of confidentiality of sources, but destroys the very currency of investigative journalism. It shows you can’t be an investigative journalist in the UK. As if Julian Assange hadn’t made that abundantly clear to us.
No one has asked the obvious question - what is the oath?
It varies and it varies again depending on where you are and how the oath is interpreted.
My interpretation is that they're openly committing treason by aligning themselves to the interests of another nation which is committing war crimes on a daily basis including genocide.
Australian politici pledge allegiance to the Queen and all her hairs but they can also pledge allegiance to the Commonwealth.
It's revealing that during the coronation, the King promises to do justice but he's also required to pledge allegiance to some ancient biblical figure ....King of Judea [Go figure]
I think it would be easier to argue that US politicians are committing treason then their spineless rubbery Australian counterparts.
I’m always being told that the West has freedom of speech and large numbers of other countries haven’t. Erm, removing everything that’s even slightly critical of genocide is free speech? Of course, it’s all to do with Herr Starmer and his gang of yes men and women. He is turning into a dictator and hardly anyone is doing anything, most of us can’t do anything. I’ve sent letters and emails. What else can I do except protest? We have to support genocide. I can’t quite figure out why. What has Israel got on Starmer? What has the USA got on Starmer? Or is he just simply evil?
Of course you have the right to comment and protest in the 'democratic' western empire. That is what democracy is all about. Well, that is until the comment or protest become uncomfortable to the western empire managers. And this is liable to be when an exposed part of the empire gets to be under scrutiny and protest .And that exposed part is fascist Israel stil. sheltering under the fire proof blanket of the anti semitic guard rail . That the Israeli zionists are part and parcel of the ruling US zionists makes it certain that if you look like being effective in your peaceful protest you will be identified and treated as a terrorist . A 'terrorist' now anyone who is being non violently affective in exposing zionists real terrorism. Welcome to Nineteen Eighty Four..... Incidentally Winstanley was a character in that Dystopia
Lest anyone in any western country still think that they have any rights that power respects.
Pretend that Winstanley recieved such treatment in Russia or any other country that the Empire doesn't like. Every MSM touch hole would be proclaiming themselves to be Asa Winstanley. But since it's the UK and he's criticizing Israel, he's a terrorist.
I think that, really, the west has decided that the Nazis were right all along.
I think that the Nazis were always Western-backed, and the Nazis were just Western puppets - same as the Ukrainian Nazis.
No question about it. The historical records exist of US businessfolk investing in Nazi Germany.
Well, consider this question.
We all know Weimar Germany was bankrupt, with hyperflation. Then Hitler comes to power, and *SOMEBODY* lends Germany enough money to rebuild a war machine almost powerful enough to defeat Europe and Russia within just a few years.
Where did all this money come from? Aliens?
Only 3 countries had spare capital - Britain, US, and France.
It Is quite amusing to think the French partly financed their own invasion, because the German military staff wasn't foolish enough to invade Russia without securing their rear first.
And, of course, this answers a whole range of other mysteries, why Hess flew to London, why Britain and America pootled around until it was obvious Russia had beaten Germany before invading the Continent, and indeed why Hitler invaded Russia at all - those debts were coming due, and much like today, the Anglo Empire needed collateral for its own debts.
Lol, when you consider the hysteria that even mentioning Prescott Bush brings, imagine the response to a claim that Nazi Germany was entirely funded and armed by the West.
But all you have to do is ask: who DID fund Germany's military rise? And isn't it so funny that no establishment "History" book ever explored this obvious question?
According to William Shirer -- an expert if there ever was one -- the french oligarchy wanted the Nazi invasion in order to put down labor. "Better Hitler than Blum" was their motto. It worked.
Blum was a socialist Jew: of course meilleur Hitler que Blum. Better for business. I've read the same in several places. Pattern of the ultrawealthy throwing support behind authoritarian preservers of their status quo is both logical to feudalist-capitalist ethos and reiterated throughout history.
It was always and still is: better fascism than communism, which includes the destruction of unions and the continuous pushback against socialism today. The plutocracy fears a people’s revolution.
The Western allies invaded in 1944 for two reasons:
1. to secure their piece of the EUROPEAN pie and prevent the Russians from overrunning the entire continent, in particular France.
2. to secure as much of the German Advanced Weapons, Industrial Technology and hoards of stolen wealth as possible before the Russians could get to it.
Britain and the USA were "joined at the hip" by the latter's almost total dependence on MI6 and British intelligence for information. This is why the CIA was formed after the war.
Both Governments underestimated Stalin and the Soviet's ability and determination to defeat NAZI Germany alone, on the ground. The USA and Britain would have been perfectly happy to continue to bomb and sea blockade what remained of the 3rd Reich into dust and starvation, to avoid a commitment of US/British ground troops altogether. In 1943 it became increasingly clear to Roosevelt and Churchill that Stalin had very little motivation to stop at the Rhine River while defeating the NAZI's. It became apparent that the West needed to step in with massive ground armies on the Western Continent to keep the Soviet Expansion in check. This was the primordial NATO alliance.
Very intriguing Gnuneo! The narrative is what they want us not to know.
Yes I believe that. I have heard that Henry Ford was a real antisemite and Charles Lindbergh was pro Nazi before WW2 broke out as was Edward, King George Vl’s brother, was pro Nazi.
Hi Smoky
As well as Preston Bush and Joseph Kennedy.
Joseph Kennedy had his own daughter, Rosemary, put in a mental institution where she endured shock treatments and a partial lobotomy, I believe. Very cruel man indeed. These people have no hearts, no souls.
The US Automakers were one of the prime investors. Henry Ford was a rabid anti-Semite. Ford, GM and many other US companies played both sides of the fence from 1933 till 1945.
I just read a piece about a few wealthy Zionist Jews that bought their freedom from the Nazis in exchange for outing the rest of their village knowing hundreds would be sent to a death camp.
All cultures and societies have their Benedict Arnolds.
Look up Soros' personal history too.
The Rothchilds too.
The important thing is it's working for them. Ask the Brits about Winstanley and most probably never heard of him. And if they learn about the event from the news they likely agree with the treatment.
To say nothing of the rest of the world. There can be no greater example than Assange who finally decided he'd had enough of the impotent "freedom-loving" public not giving a damn about the "freedoms" they supposedly have.
truth
YES!
Yes and the “narratives” may have been few and far between if the Western newspapers and journalists had supported Assange’s cause and fought en masse against his empire jailers. Silence was deadly.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/10/who-are-the-terrorists/
Outstanding as always, Caitlin. This double standard is on Full display with Israel's arrest of GrayZone journalist Jeremy Loffredo. You here crickets from the state department, however, when American journalist Even Gershkovich was arrested by Russia there was a state department led media barrage about what barbarians the Russians are for the arrest.
Regardless of who wins the election in a few weeks, I wouldn't expect anything to change considering the lavish campaign contributions received by both candidates from pro-israel warhawks.
Glenn Greenwald did an excellent piece about Miriam Adelson and her third quarter, 100 million dollar donation to the Trump campaign as well as instances where Trump openly admits to doing whatever she says because she holds the purse strings, I'm paraphrasing.
Well said. Western governments flipped out when Russia invaded Ukraine and they sent them lots of weapons to fight Russia, but there was crickets from them when Israel invaded Gaza and then Lebanon. No western countries rushed to send Lebanon weapons or put sanctions on Israel. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
The USA made a deal with the devil (Israel) after 9/11. Why Wall Street - the money? Why the Pentagon - the military? Why not just target the Whitehouse?
Since 9/11 Israeli "intelligence" put America on the warpath (Iraq, Afghanistan,etc.) fighting Israels enemies, not ours. What benefit does the USA get from killing Arab Muslims on the other side of the world? IDK
I’d suggest the timing on this is off. The Zionist Neocons have been in positions of power and influence starting way before 9/11. That just gave them the opportunity to begin implementing the plans they already had. They botched everything they’ve ever touched. Nothing new about that.
People say that "Western countries" have more "freedom" than other countries. Defenders of the West, please tell me HOW these countries have MORE freedom than China, Russia, India, etc.?
From what I observe, "FREEDOM in the West" has been an ILLUSION for a long time - it is ONLY permitted as long as people DON'T go against the interests of the Empire, the Oligarchy, the Global Capitalists. It seems that once you step over that line, "freedom" no longer has any meaning/application.
When will people in the WEST wake up? When someone comes for them? When it's too late? What will it take to WAKE THEM UP??? War on American soil? Genocide on American soil?
There can be individual mind, and group mind. As individuals, your average Westerner will bitch like chattering birds about the lack of genuine free speech AND democracy - put them into a bunch, and the lifetime of indoctrination and mnemonics kicks in, and they hear themselves cheer stupidly when the key phrases appear about how the West is the Best.
No doubt a similar pattern emerges in nearly every country, 1984 scenes spring to mind, along with the 2001 BNW, and even 'The Prisoner' ep 'The General'. However, as with the USSR, eventually a tipping point is reached, and the citizens are so privately disillusioned, despite public displays of loyalty, they no longer believe in the regime.
Low productivity is a key indicator when this is reached.
The UK & US have TERRIBLE productivity, and this is not solely due to low investments for decades.
Thing is, the Western regimes are BY FAR the most brutal regimes in the World, many knew it already, but the Holocaust in Gaza as brought it home perhaps to most. To rise up is to invite retaliation. Even just critical voices are being threatened and silenced, let alone activists.
Westerners are living in authoritarian regimes. Borderline totalitarian.
Bear that in mind. :(
Well explained Gnuneo. Thank you!
I think about 1984 a lot these days. When I was a kid, I thought the plot interesting but incredibly far-fetched. Now i realize that Orwell was a genius(I consider home a true prophet), and find that reality is so absurd that I’m constantly questioning my own sanity. This article brings to mind the quote from 1984:
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
We must do everything to combat their control of the present (narrative). At times it seems hopeless (when my friends parrot the official narrative despite being presented with evidence that it’s all a lie). But if we despair, they win. We know. As long as we know, and refuse to be silenced, they can’t win.
I suspect that his "Letting the cat out of the bag" in 1984, so to speak, threw a directed spanner into their works. A spanner that jangled them for several decades - until the CIA and other security apparatus figured they had so much control, it didn't even matter if the plebs could see what was happening anyway.
Facial rec, RFID chips, total surveillance, control of the courts (see the show trials of Assange & Trump), stitched up political system, media OBVIOUSLY, - all the levers of liberal society are in their malevolent hands. A ban on marches and demonstrations, targeted attacks on organisers and 'influencers', propaganda pouring in from every direction (Now assisted by AI), a Public that doesn't know it's arse from its elbow, but whose first emotional reaction to everything is outrage. With no intellectual depth, historical analysis (Let alone Class analysis), and addicted to their daily 'Minutes of Hate' - now not only tabloid junkies.
He was indeed, a prophet - and one who used his prophetic vision to try to stop Apocalypse.
There is one sliver of hope, and that is BRICS. Orwell's vision requires 3 blocs in never-ending warfare. Fortunately, the Zionists are actually complete morons along with being psychopaths. They took charge of Western countries, but their obtuse murderous stupidity lead to Russia and China forming an alliance instead.
Whether it will survive the passing of Xi and Putin remains to be seen, and even longer term, the collapse of the Western system in entirety - without the exigent constant threat.
But those two men seem to grasp the depth of the problem quite well. If they can rewrite Eurasia into one peaceful bloc, humanity has a chance to avoid the fate Orwell laid out.
How the rest of the World will view Westerners in the future doesn't bear thinking about. It's the past 400+ years of "Imperialism", with mega-deaths that make the Nazis Holocaust look like childs-play.
Hi -on a different thread, Gnuneo. Yes Westerners are in 'authoritarian' or nearly 'totalitarian' regimes, though not, of course, restricted by iron chains, but by the silver chains of propaganda, which can be very subtle.
Everything that's in the news is there for a reason. The latest well publicised round of 'assaults' on free speech come from talking heads like John Kerry (at the very useful idiots WEF) and from Hiliary Clinton. They are deliberate and appear to show that censorship is coming from outside, from 'globalists'. The threat is not from our own countries. This encourages nationalism and people like Matt Taibbi to set up the 'Return the Republic' as well as adding grist to the mill of Britain's very own MAGA party- Reform.
The fake pandemic beautifully set up mistrust of global cooperative attempts trying to mitigate the climate crisis (and harm fossil fuels and animal ag's profits). There was some 'covid' censorship on YT and twitter and speakers at rallies were arrested and then released next day, but it was all very performative. It worked for the narrative.
The major exception is of course Assange. This was not performative. The powers (the arms, oil, pharma, animal ag cartels) were actually threatened by him. Very much against the narrative. He revealed it was not, in fact, left wing globalists who are a threat to us. The threat is the cartels who benefit from nationalism and support for the western patriarchy. These are the ones who control what we see and hear each day and who can predict our reactions to it.
I would say we ARE restricted by iron chains - those activists are facing 5-20 YEARS in prison for their political activities - aren't they 'political prisoners'?
I would say the threat is both International (Globalists), AND National (CIA patsies like Reform, AfD, le Pen, and needless to add MI5 patsies like "Tommeh"). The left hand may try to divert attention onto the right hand, but they are all controlled from the same source - offshored.
Yes, the performative "pandemic" fit into their plans like the 3rd to last jigsaw piece, from propaganda (against "The Left" supposedly pushing the fear-porn narrative... and I know MANY lefties who fell for this trick too, as well as the idiot rightwingers), to social control (The Police have to keep you in your homes for your own benefit, AND know everyone you meet in any situation). Let alone the "We are keeping you safe from dangerous misinformation" line of malarkey.
Poor Assange. I was a fan from early on, and what was done to him was obviously a "Message" to the rest of us. I'm more than glad he's free, and although now journalism is now illegal due to the plea bargain, there aren't any journalists left in the corporate media so we won't see any difference.
Pretty much everyone I follow for news is now nervously considering moving to Russia - what a turn around.
Chang,
As I have mentioned on more that one occasion on these pages, it will need a war on American soil, or in the very least a couple of submarines sitting of the US east coast to make Americans realise that one missile in their domain could end all their tomorrows.
Ask the Japanese in Hiroshima. It's called 'facing reality', but effective.
Not that I am any more aware of world events than any other commentator on these pages, but for many years I constantly bombarded the Russian Embassy in my country to sign an agreement with Iran knowing that what is happening now was always going to happen. Israel's antagonism towards that country. always evident. Iran has always been seen by most of the world as the best educated and stable country in the Middle East and as such, always likely to be a threat to the grand plan (with the US at its back, of course) of the modern day Barbarians, known as Israelis.
But it didn't happen.
Can you imagine Netanyahu throwing his weight around as the newly self-appointed real estate agent for Washington knowing that one step out of line, that line perhaps a stated Russian Redline, could bring the stolen lands of Palestine, a.k.a Israel (just a temporary name) into even more of a pile of rubble that we see today in Gaza.
Perhaps just one or two bombs would be enough and today, such an act would be welcomed by so many .......all but the Western leaders, Scholtz, Starmer, Albanese and the rest of them.
But, it didn't happen.
Then as a failed advocate for international peace, I considered that China and Russia could form an alliance as well, but now wiser (that should be 'older') enough to know that if one couldn't convince Russia to read my pleas, then there would be less chance of success with Russia and China.
Mission not accomplished as a result. Hence we still have the rampaging Stromtroopers in Tel Aviv frightening the daylights out of all in the Middle East, now expanding into seeing American troops on the ground in Israel, anxious for the whole tinderbox area to develop to a warzone.
Now if those American troops are killed, "accidentally" by Israel like the UN Peacekeepers may soon be, aid workers have been along with UN workers, doctors and on, Netanyahu will apologise and then promise yet another Israeli "internal investigation" into the matter. Don't expect a detailed result of that investigation though. We have been waiting for an explanation into the 1967 USS Liberty bombing by Israel and the killing of so many American sailors on that day.
Yes, 8th June, 1967. everyone. Still waiting
The day that Israel knew that the US was an obvious pushover. How right they were. They have never looked back since that date.
Is that humiliating, America? So much more since then swept under the carpet, dismissed and ignored. They are in every corridor, in the Senate, the House, thousands as Public Servants, spies, fellow travellers, neocons, politicians by the hundreds with up to 400 nuclear weapons, (thanks Lyndon), all there to serve the USA, Israel's new colony.
Perfectly stated, Contrarian.
I have long maintained that Amerikkka needs a war on our very soil in order to persuade ordinary Murkins, Meh, guess war ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.
If it results in some of our deaths, who gives a flying fuck? We ain’t sepshunal. And if it turns Amerikkka towards peace it would be more than worth it.
I am suggesting an online fundraiser to counter the graft and corruption that determines the political outcomes in the USA
We'll call it Anti-PACS. Looking for an ex-President as a figurehead but to date have yet to find one in whose time reigning over the American people hasn't resulted in millions of deaths in other countries. As a result, credibility lost.
The idea was good. Supporting this backdown was the continual references by others of the USA's history of wars for hegemony and power.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
What's on the agenda, Trump or Harris? Not hard to guess.
Contrarian
We won’t find an ex-president who would fit the bill, unless we resurrect JFK. But there are former Congressmen who would: Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich come to mind.
Oh, they’ll be coming for us all right, Chang.
When I was returning from Denver recently, I received what I considered to be an invasive pat down at the airport. I kept setting off the alarm; it was CLEAR that it was because of my artificial hip. When a woman arrived to do the procedure, she asked me if I wanted a room. I replied, No, just do it right here where everyone else can see you patting down a 70-year-old woman.
She felt under my hair, in my back pockets, even under my bra! I told her to quit getting so fucking personal: I felt like I had nothing to lose at the time.
Nobody, but NOBODY, can tell me that didn’t happen because of the websites I frequent and my calls for revolution.
Next they're going to tell us that we didn't see a beautiful 19-year Palestinian teenager named Sha'ban al-Dalou burned alive before our eyes. We must all be delusional. Not them, certainly. The only democracy in the Middle East wouldn't do that -- or lie about its complicity in such horrific acts.
Ruled by a cabal of psychopaths. They and their disgusting henchmen in the “security apparatus” will go to any lengths to maintain the wholesale slaughter and starvation. By any measure, we are ruled by full-blown Nazis. But moves like this expose how scared they are of losing their grip on power. But that grip on power relies on the ability to control what people think. This grip is dissolving before their eyes.
I saw this today by a pundit (forgot who) but worth repeating:
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Nazis: Founded on Arian supremacy
Zionists: Founded on Jewish supremacy
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Nazis: Expelled millions from their homes
Zionists: Expelled millions from their homes
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Nazis: Put racial groups in ghettos and camps (eg Auschwitz)
Zionists: Put racial groups in ghettos and camps (eg Gaza)
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Nazis: Used dehumanising language for undesirables
Zionists: Used dehumanising language for undesirables
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Nazis: Enforced collective punishments
Zionists: Enforced collective punishments
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Nazis: Signature method: gas chambers
Zionists: Signature method: carpet bombing
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jamenta, A clever way to dismantle the orthodox narrative.
This one? https://rumble.com/v5j0avh-eerie-comparison-between-nazis-and-israel.html?start=152
heh It was Jimmy Dore. Funny I forgot. That happens as you get older.
Very good Jamenta.
I disagree, I think the dissolution of the EU, and of the Empire and of even the United States itself may work in favour of the real power holders, the supranational companies. I don't think they're scared, i think they're just warming up. The've got us thinking that government and ridiculous rules are the problem. They're looking forward to world with no rules at all.
Surely its Karp and the other slimeballs in suits like him who should be getting visits from counterterrorism police?
https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/4/5/israel_ai
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/nsa-palantir-israel-gaza-ai/
https://www.palantir.com/assets/xrfr7uokpv1b/3MuEeA8MLbLDAyxixTsiIe/9e4a11a7fb058554a8a1e3cd83e31c09/C134184_finaleprint.pdf
These people are CHOOSING to participate in, and materially, contribute to genocide.
But not it's the journalists who expose them that get harassed? Everyone living in the "west" had better wake up to the fact that zionist capture of these governments will get all the native people there treated like how the zionists treat the Palestinians. No rights. Human animals.
Oh and Karp plans to make money on that too, starting with your biometrics:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-palantir-military-tech-firm-backing-war-gaza-awarded-uk-nhs-data-contract
The narrative vs. reality: you'd hope that reality would win out.
Horrified about the genocide we're seeing every day in Gaza? The narrative: you're anti-semitic or a Putin/Iran/fill in the blank puppet.
Ya, right.
>>"you'd hope that reality would win out."
Reality NEVER wins out - throughout human history. The human brain works on stories and narratives. Reality is often ugly and inconvenient. Whole industries have sprung up to help people NOT see "reality" (pharmaceuticals, public relations, advertising, marketing, entertainment, and more).
This is just the beginning. Harris has mentioned doing the same exact thing with using police officers to enforce violations that pertain to social media. The 'tok tok ban' isn't about enemies of the state, it is about controlling the narrative, which you have platforms outside of one's control, propaganda is less effective. The notion of encouraging terrorism is very shady, what did he write to warrant the warrant? Criticism of Israel is not encouraging terrorism. Just like when I say, stop arming Israel with US weapons and end genocide, it doesn't encourage terrorism. When Bilken and Romney talked about newspapers and TV, the government chiefly controls those...ironic ;)When people have free speech, both the narrative and propaganda are less effective.
You're right about it is getting worse. Jimmy Dore just put out a video (see link below) that the Pentagon has gotten rid of The Posse Comitatus Act, which since 1878, has banned the US military from deploying against American citizens and/or to use lethal force against Americans.
Pentagon’s New Plans To Use Lethal Force Against Americans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sBBusd1dKA
Because they are about to steal the election if necessary and they won’t have another Jan 6th for the world to see their lack of legitimacy. They will NEVER allow Trump back into power.
The irony too, is even if they did, it wouldn't make a difference for the rest of the country.
Blackrock loves and funds Trump! He is the epitome of free marketeering they drool over.
I saw that. Jimmy’s on top of EVERYTHING.
Here’s the first part of the “support for terrorism” law: “(1A)A person commits an offence if the person—
(a)expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation,” There’s a low bar “and” portion that follows: “reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support a proscribed organisation. Given an email subscription or a YouTube watcher can’t be assessed, perhaps that’s the very definition of “reckless.” Pretty scary how overreaching this law is.
We’ll never know what actually happened on 10/7 as it’s not in Israel’s interest to be forthcoming with any real numbers. How many of the 1,200 bodies were Hamas? How many were soldiers or police? How many died as a result of panicked helicopter pilots firing hellfire rockets? The first days had more information and pictures than now. Then the lies started coming and drowned out everything else.
They weren’t “panicked,” they were ordered to destroy the cars, and homes, under the Hannibal Directive.
One thing I've noticed is that the first day, news media kept saying it was "Israel's 9/11." An obvious comparison. But then maybe someone pointed out that at least half of Americans think 9/11 was at least partly an inside job; within a week I saw speculation that Mossad knew exactly what was planned for 10/7, and either folded it's hands and looked away, or even gave active assistance to the plan. This seems very likely tome given that Mossad is infamous for its ruthlessness, thoroughness, spies all over the world but nowhere surveilled as thoroughly as Gaza. And the fact that Palestinian Gaza was standing in the way of Israel's exploiting its offshore gas field and keeping all the money--and of its plan to run a canal to compete with the Suez just past Gaza's northern border...and of its desire to replace Palestiinian Gazans with Jewish settlers. Irrefutable evidence that they deliberately decided to sacrifice a thousand Jews to justify a war of ethnic cleansing, which would still necessarily be as visibly horrific as necessary to "force" Egypt or others to take on a million or more refugees (but Egypt firmly refused)--such evidence might be the one thing that would cost the Zionazis the support of Israelis.
Hi Mary
If 9/11 wasn’t an inside job I’ll choke down my cowgirl hat.
except how will you ever find out?
(Na)tional (Zi)onism is a global cancer.
"Empire managers are always acutely aware of something that normal human beings are not: that real power comes from manipulating the stories — narratives — that people tell themselves about their reality."
Then we'll have to use their very own weapon against these "empire managers". We have to take control of the narrative and manage it so there's no doubt that we're in control. We have to keep repeating the truth repeatedly until it is the ONLY narrative that the masses hear and accept. It's exhausting work, but we owe it to journalists like Asa Winstanley and Richard Medhurst who are facing ridiculous charges of "aiding terrorists". Pffft!! We all know who the true terrorists are, don't we?
The charges are both much less than “aiding””,” and far worse, as it is such a low bar. The language is “a)expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation,”
Consider this: they hand the information harvested from Asa Winstanley’s devices to the spook network, which not only is a massive breach of confidentiality of sources, but destroys the very currency of investigative journalism. It shows you can’t be an investigative journalist in the UK. As if Julian Assange hadn’t made that abundantly clear to us.
Wishing EI the very best.
They control the official fact free narrative - then the only proper response is to introduce accountability for their lies.
Considering that all public servants are under oath - at least in theory we should be able to hold them accountable to that oath.
No one has asked the obvious question - what is the oath?
It varies and it varies again depending on where you are and how the oath is interpreted.
My interpretation is that they're openly committing treason by aligning themselves to the interests of another nation which is committing war crimes on a daily basis including genocide.
Australian politici pledge allegiance to the Queen and all her hairs but they can also pledge allegiance to the Commonwealth.
It's revealing that during the coronation, the King promises to do justice but he's also required to pledge allegiance to some ancient biblical figure ....King of Judea [Go figure]
I think it would be easier to argue that US politicians are committing treason then their spineless rubbery Australian counterparts.
I’m always being told that the West has freedom of speech and large numbers of other countries haven’t. Erm, removing everything that’s even slightly critical of genocide is free speech? Of course, it’s all to do with Herr Starmer and his gang of yes men and women. He is turning into a dictator and hardly anyone is doing anything, most of us can’t do anything. I’ve sent letters and emails. What else can I do except protest? We have to support genocide. I can’t quite figure out why. What has Israel got on Starmer? What has the USA got on Starmer? Or is he just simply evil?
Epstein’s island.
Of course you have the right to comment and protest in the 'democratic' western empire. That is what democracy is all about. Well, that is until the comment or protest become uncomfortable to the western empire managers. And this is liable to be when an exposed part of the empire gets to be under scrutiny and protest .And that exposed part is fascist Israel stil. sheltering under the fire proof blanket of the anti semitic guard rail . That the Israeli zionists are part and parcel of the ruling US zionists makes it certain that if you look like being effective in your peaceful protest you will be identified and treated as a terrorist . A 'terrorist' now anyone who is being non violently affective in exposing zionists real terrorism. Welcome to Nineteen Eighty Four..... Incidentally Winstanley was a character in that Dystopia
Thank You Caitlin