Thanks Caitlin. As the years have gone by who in the Western world has stood up for the Palestinians? I see this as racism, therefore it is no surprise to me that someone would finally come to their aid and of course it's Arabs who are called criminals.
Netanyahu is a criminal, who should be in prison but instead of this, US comes to his aid and offers more money! Money for what?
As an Amerikkkan, I refuse to pay federal taxes this year. I will not be party to supporting IsraHell, or Ukrainazia, for that matter. If I’m fined, it will be like getting blood from a turnip. If I’m jailed, I’ll get three hits and a cot 😉
That is the 40 dollar question isn't it! I said that too. They are committing genocide like using gatling guns against bows and arrows! Why do they need more money and weapons!? It is solely for the return of the money to the pockets of the warmongers!
France (where I live) we have been 'gagged' already! Not allowed to protest. Some Mayors in Towns are allowing some form of protest. The stupidity of this is obvious. People will go underground and hate will become the norm (as we have already seen in Paris).
What happens to us people?
A lot of us feel frustrated and angry and empathetic to the plight of the Palestinians I know I am. I want to be out doing something but I do not want to see the inside of a French gaol again!
We are all starting to see that the free press is going to be censured.
I am old but am so sad to think of what our grand-kids and all kids are going to be left with.
I agree there will be social disorder with ever more threatening ways of controlling us.
Wow! That woman was so powerfully articulately on target about "you own everything!" Thank you for the clips. Thank you too for highlighting the "faux completely out of nowhere" Western government/media message.
The reason for this new phenomenon of pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the West is because of alternative media and skepticism of legacy media. People have seen videos of the abuse meted out on Palestinians by the Zionists. People have learned the true history of the Zionist Apartheid State of Israel as I have.
I no longer stand with Israel because I was duped by the Neocons and Zionists in the past. I stand with the Palestinian People and want them to have a nation with a Mediterranean coast.🇵🇸
Same here, Brother. My activism began during Vietnam, but I credit reading “ Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” as a teenager for my support for displaced peoples.
Happen to have heard of the movie "Billy Jack"? It is a strange thing as I grew up with Cherokee and Chippewa Indians and obviously went to school with some of them but until I saw that movie I was totally clueless! I will add that I have been on the side of my Indian brothers and sisters since 1965 when I saw reality and I am white.
"The only way to reconcile this fact with a belief in Israel’s innocence is rigorous psychological compartmentalization."
I remember reading Derrick Jensen's claim that "Violence done by those lower in status against those higher is always condemned and punished. But violence from those higher against those lower is not punished or condemned--it isn't even seen as violence." When I first read this about 15 years ago I thought it an extreme statement. But since then I've see instance after instance of its being true. Look at this situation--Hamas kills over a thousand Israelis and that is seen as horrific violence, which it was. But when Israel responds by killing ten times as many, which it always does when Palestinians kill a handful of Israelis, never mind the imprisonment without charge, the locking up of millions, the theft of more and more land, the apartheid regime with different laws for Jews and others--that isn't violence, it's just "Israel's right to defend itself." Every US newscaster howls with horror about dead Israeli children as an especial outrage and crime--but all the Palestinian children killed, well...nothing to get excited about.
The colonial empire is facing revolt in the colonies and at home even.
How will they respond though? By reaching for insight and enlightenment? One is reminded here of Agamben’s work “State of Exception” which would imply that the response will be heightened brutality. Doubling down.
At the end of the day this is a deep state run by Nuland, Kagan, Blinken - virulent racists and totally amoral.
I’d say this the mindless state sponsored violence and repression and censorship is far from over.
Spare a thought here for Assange and Snowden though - they sacrificed themselves to give early warning on all this. But nobody listened. At all.
What I despise is these people (fascists) hold the nuclear baseball bat over the entire world. It's why (my guess) the world has been so hesitant about responding strongly against Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign - which is clearly an act of brutal genocide against a defenseless population. And we're all suppose to believe this is a "War" when there is no standing army in Gaza - and never has been one?
They really don't seem to give a damn if World War breaks out. It's almost as if they want it to break out. So what do you do when you have an abusive psychopath loose in the world playground? How do you respond - without risking a worldwide conflagration - that the psychopath (Joe Biden) - and his good buddies in the UK, France, Canada and Israel are more than willing to let happen?
Don't worry, BlackRock & Vanguard are certainly ready to step into the breach, D-g bless them. Gonna rebuild Ukraine too. Mr. Z. signed up for reconstruction way back when the Russian SMO first started.
I have grown old and my injuries and fatigue have put me in my place.
You tell me to take a side?
My ancestors were killed by Romans, “blessed”with Christianity at the tip of Charlemagne’s spear, killed by the French, killed by the Germans, killed by the Russians.
Wherever my ancestors went they built fertile farms but there seems no escape from the blood crazed One-God people.
You ask me to pick a side?
30 years of war and carnage in Europe was not enough for the One-God people. The Enlightenment could not dampen the bloodshed. Science provides more effective weapons instead of the end of abuse.
You think I should pick a side?
The One-God people say to a person:”We are a religion of peace.”, while they hack at bodies or bomb them, each according to their means. They say:”To your peril do you ignore the One God. No morality exists without God.”
You really want me to pick a side?
Don’t they see: There are as many Gods as there are people!
Pick a side, fan the flames, don’t pick a side and still feed the war. You are the fuel for this machine.
Fran, someone once said something like, 'we have the self-control of stone-age people, the values of the Middle Ages and the weapons of the nuclear age - what could possibly go wrong?'
Stone age people had great self control. That is why their communities spanned entire continents. But your point is taken.
There's a similar one, that I'll misquote from memory: "The political systems of the 17th Century, the morality of the 18th Century, and the weapons of the 21st".
500 American Jews calling for a cease fire to the ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians (including children) in Gaza, arrested at US Capitol, by Lee Camp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx15VargZKI
1st amendment? It's illegal to "protest" in the Capitol building? What better place? What does "peaceably assemble" mean? Resisting arrest for asking for a ceasefire?
When are "we the people" going to realize there is no more constitution other than a piece of paper under glass with now meaningless words?
Agree. Every year it's becoming more and more meaningless. A farce. I feel more empathy with the upcoming generations of Americans than myself - as I had my heyday. But what they're facing now is corporate fascism - wage slavery.
America is becoming like California - once a beach surfer's dream - now a nightmare place to live.
I am glad to see the pushback against the atrocities happening in Gaza. I am heartbroken for all of the bloodshed and loss of life, however, if we can learn something from this madness and move forward in a better, truly more peaceful way, the loss of life will not be in vain.
"Peace doesn’t look like everyone complying with the status quo regardless of its abusiveness, it looks like the absence of abuse."
Peace as an absence of abuse... That's a very good definition of Peace. Complying with an abusive status quo (which is what many Americans do everyday, but which most do not realize since they have health care and a roof over their heads, food in their stomachs, etc.), doesn't make for a peaceful society. It makes for a resentful society, a bleeding society, an unequal society, which will, of course, lead to violent outbursts by the victims of the abuse. These outbursts against the abusers are so predictable that the idea they were "unprovoked" is simply ridiculous and the thought processes of evil mad men. (Guess where Biden and Netanyahu and their ilk fit in.)
It also didn't begin in 1990 when I stood on a Jerusalem corner with "Women in Black' weekly protests around Israel against the occupation. "It's the Occupation, Stupid!"
From much reading of comments and many many alternative sources of information I would like to present here something that I believe is a very relative question and view of the available information. First there was 9/11 which now everyone is comparing to this situation. From Fahrenheit 911 (the movie) and other reading I think Busch was guilty as sin. He was in the doldrums and needed this to commit all the war crimes he did. Now Netanyahu is under attack and about to loose his position he needed something (war) to save his ass. So once again the world's 2 greatest "Intelligence Agencies" completely drop the ball and still where the normal response time of the air defence and the IDF is typically seconds nothing happens!? Now I found out (watching Glenn Greenwald) from an actual Israeli citizen who has had his mother taken or killed that get this his mother was a supporter of the Palestinians! The area where they live (she lived) is close to the border and a large portion of those people living there are supporters of Palestine. So was this done on purpose? I mean it is a big win for a Mass Murdering Sociopath Netanyahu! He gets his war and kills some of his opponents at the same time.
I would enthusiastically embrace a Nuremburg style tribunal for media figures who are cheerleaders for war. How are they any different from Nazi propagandists? They are not. They are profiting from the utter misery of others for themselves and their masters. Once convicted, I recommend short drop hanging, ala Stutthof hangings in 1946 in Gdansk Poland. They deserve nothing less.
I doubt we'll see another Nuremburg trial by the likes of the US in our lifetime - given the state of US governance has descended into almost as fascist a state as Israel has clearly become. Every time I see or listen to Joe Biden - I can't help but think how much he represents the US symbolically: corrupt, decrepit, soon to die off with the rest of a warmongering empire. Trump is not much better - a billionaire conman pretending to be a populist.
Thanks Caitlin. As the years have gone by who in the Western world has stood up for the Palestinians? I see this as racism, therefore it is no surprise to me that someone would finally come to their aid and of course it's Arabs who are called criminals.
Netanyahu is a criminal, who should be in prison but instead of this, US comes to his aid and offers more money! Money for what?
As an Amerikkkan, I refuse to pay federal taxes this year. I will not be party to supporting IsraHell, or Ukrainazia, for that matter. If I’m fined, it will be like getting blood from a turnip. If I’m jailed, I’ll get three hits and a cot 😉
I would not pay taxes in the US either. Maybe you have started a campaign?
I stopped paying taxes to expand the Vietnam war by getting the hell outta there. No regrets here in France. (Although it's not Utopia.)
Ireland is my dream country ( been there twice). If I’m ever a widow, I’ll move heaven and earth to get an Irish passport.
Me too
We’ll go together, Kevin!
I hope so! 😉
Fantastic.
That’s awesome Jeano! Rashida is from my state but sadly I’m not in her district 🙁
Both FJB and FBiBi are criminals and war criminals. They should both be jailed for life.
Unfortunately because they are Amerikans they can't be indicted in the International Court.
You in Amerika sought punishment for the Nazis (quite rightly) BUT who is going to bring Biden and his crony's to the International Court.
There is a reason why Amerika stayed out of international war crimes!
It did? Coulda fooled me!
“criminal” doesn’t quite capture what Netanyahu and his ilk truly are...
everyone knows they are discussing 'the final solution', and do not see the irony at all because they are psychopathic narcissists.
Yes I agree..what name would you suggest?
Demons? Beasts? Has English a word for this evil?
so that is why demons and the foulest of beasts are complaining about dire insults to their good names.
Can’t think of one word that does, though admittedly I’m not Shakespeare.
scum sucking pukes. Learned that term from a kid.
Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings…
That is the 40 dollar question isn't it! I said that too. They are committing genocide like using gatling guns against bows and arrows! Why do they need more money and weapons!? It is solely for the return of the money to the pockets of the warmongers!
There need to be some very big neon signs that say "WHY ARE THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF A POLITICIANS MOUTH ALWAYS WE NEED MORE MONEY"!?
France (where I live) we have been 'gagged' already! Not allowed to protest. Some Mayors in Towns are allowing some form of protest. The stupidity of this is obvious. People will go underground and hate will become the norm (as we have already seen in Paris).
What happens to us people?
A lot of us feel frustrated and angry and empathetic to the plight of the Palestinians I know I am. I want to be out doing something but I do not want to see the inside of a French gaol again!
We are all starting to see that the free press is going to be censured.
I am old but am so sad to think of what our grand-kids and all kids are going to be left with.
I agree there will be social disorder with ever more threatening ways of controlling us.
We are disposable.
Wow! That woman was so powerfully articulately on target about "you own everything!" Thank you for the clips. Thank you too for highlighting the "faux completely out of nowhere" Western government/media message.
The reason for this new phenomenon of pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the West is because of alternative media and skepticism of legacy media. People have seen videos of the abuse meted out on Palestinians by the Zionists. People have learned the true history of the Zionist Apartheid State of Israel as I have.
I no longer stand with Israel because I was duped by the Neocons and Zionists in the past. I stand with the Palestinian People and want them to have a nation with a Mediterranean coast.🇵🇸
Some of us have been standing with the Palestinia People for decades.
Same here, Brother. My activism began during Vietnam, but I credit reading “ Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” as a teenager for my support for displaced peoples.
Happen to have heard of the movie "Billy Jack"? It is a strange thing as I grew up with Cherokee and Chippewa Indians and obviously went to school with some of them but until I saw that movie I was totally clueless! I will add that I have been on the side of my Indian brothers and sisters since 1965 when I saw reality and I am white.
I saw “Billy Jack” at the theater as a teenager…several times.
Blessed are those who ally with the downtrodden.
"The only way to reconcile this fact with a belief in Israel’s innocence is rigorous psychological compartmentalization."
I remember reading Derrick Jensen's claim that "Violence done by those lower in status against those higher is always condemned and punished. But violence from those higher against those lower is not punished or condemned--it isn't even seen as violence." When I first read this about 15 years ago I thought it an extreme statement. But since then I've see instance after instance of its being true. Look at this situation--Hamas kills over a thousand Israelis and that is seen as horrific violence, which it was. But when Israel responds by killing ten times as many, which it always does when Palestinians kill a handful of Israelis, never mind the imprisonment without charge, the locking up of millions, the theft of more and more land, the apartheid regime with different laws for Jews and others--that isn't violence, it's just "Israel's right to defend itself." Every US newscaster howls with horror about dead Israeli children as an especial outrage and crime--but all the Palestinian children killed, well...nothing to get excited about.
The hospital attack is just a blip on the whole mess of violence against Palestinians through the years and continuing, on steroids.
It doesn't matter who did it....it's either on purpose or boys playing w/ dangerous toys.
Mary, the MSM only parrots what the government tells them to. As for a “free press”…hell, China’s press is probably more free than ours.
The colonial empire is facing revolt in the colonies and at home even.
How will they respond though? By reaching for insight and enlightenment? One is reminded here of Agamben’s work “State of Exception” which would imply that the response will be heightened brutality. Doubling down.
At the end of the day this is a deep state run by Nuland, Kagan, Blinken - virulent racists and totally amoral.
I’d say this the mindless state sponsored violence and repression and censorship is far from over.
Spare a thought here for Assange and Snowden though - they sacrificed themselves to give early warning on all this. But nobody listened. At all.
What I despise is these people (fascists) hold the nuclear baseball bat over the entire world. It's why (my guess) the world has been so hesitant about responding strongly against Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign - which is clearly an act of brutal genocide against a defenseless population. And we're all suppose to believe this is a "War" when there is no standing army in Gaza - and never has been one?
They really don't seem to give a damn if World War breaks out. It's almost as if they want it to break out. So what do you do when you have an abusive psychopath loose in the world playground? How do you respond - without risking a worldwide conflagration - that the psychopath (Joe Biden) - and his good buddies in the UK, France, Canada and Israel are more than willing to let happen?
And WHY does the MSM frame it as a war “between Israel and Hamas”? It’s a full-on war against the entire Palestinian people!
Here "Le Monde" invariably headlines: "Israël-Hamas." I shake with rage every time I see this.
You may not have listened but a LOT of us did.
None of this is surprising to me.
Don't worry, BlackRock & Vanguard are certainly ready to step into the breach, D-g bless them. Gonna rebuild Ukraine too. Mr. Z. signed up for reconstruction way back when the Russian SMO first started.
Hope so.
Marilia isn't replying to my sarcastic comment, but to Jeano's above mine. Problem with the order of comments.
Yeah. Actually, I'm reading it now. Sometimes sarcasm is all there is to reply .
“I don’t want no peace, all I need is Equal Rights and Justice.” - Peter Tosh
Yoruba proverb: Ti a ba lé Ewurẹ̀ kan ógiri, yió bu éniyan jẹ̀ / If a goat is pushed to the wall it will bite back.
I have grown old and my injuries and fatigue have put me in my place.
You tell me to take a side?
My ancestors were killed by Romans, “blessed”with Christianity at the tip of Charlemagne’s spear, killed by the French, killed by the Germans, killed by the Russians.
Wherever my ancestors went they built fertile farms but there seems no escape from the blood crazed One-God people.
You ask me to pick a side?
30 years of war and carnage in Europe was not enough for the One-God people. The Enlightenment could not dampen the bloodshed. Science provides more effective weapons instead of the end of abuse.
You think I should pick a side?
The One-God people say to a person:”We are a religion of peace.”, while they hack at bodies or bomb them, each according to their means. They say:”To your peril do you ignore the One God. No morality exists without God.”
You really want me to pick a side?
Don’t they see: There are as many Gods as there are people!
Pick a side, fan the flames, don’t pick a side and still feed the war. You are the fuel for this machine.
You are the Gods (,.) you destroy.
Fran, someone once said something like, 'we have the self-control of stone-age people, the values of the Middle Ages and the weapons of the nuclear age - what could possibly go wrong?'
Stone age people had great self control. That is why their communities spanned entire continents. But your point is taken.
There's a similar one, that I'll misquote from memory: "The political systems of the 17th Century, the morality of the 18th Century, and the weapons of the 21st".
yours sounds better.
500 American Jews calling for a cease fire to the ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians (including children) in Gaza, arrested at US Capitol, by Lee Camp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx15VargZKI
1st amendment? It's illegal to "protest" in the Capitol building? What better place? What does "peaceably assemble" mean? Resisting arrest for asking for a ceasefire?
When are "we the people" going to realize there is no more constitution other than a piece of paper under glass with now meaningless words?
Agree. Every year it's becoming more and more meaningless. A farce. I feel more empathy with the upcoming generations of Americans than myself - as I had my heyday. But what they're facing now is corporate fascism - wage slavery.
America is becoming like California - once a beach surfer's dream - now a nightmare place to live.
. . . a multiplicity false flags creates a hall of mirrors for the unwary . . .
I am glad to see the pushback against the atrocities happening in Gaza. I am heartbroken for all of the bloodshed and loss of life, however, if we can learn something from this madness and move forward in a better, truly more peaceful way, the loss of life will not be in vain.
"Peace doesn’t look like everyone complying with the status quo regardless of its abusiveness, it looks like the absence of abuse."
Peace as an absence of abuse... That's a very good definition of Peace. Complying with an abusive status quo (which is what many Americans do everyday, but which most do not realize since they have health care and a roof over their heads, food in their stomachs, etc.), doesn't make for a peaceful society. It makes for a resentful society, a bleeding society, an unequal society, which will, of course, lead to violent outbursts by the victims of the abuse. These outbursts against the abusers are so predictable that the idea they were "unprovoked" is simply ridiculous and the thought processes of evil mad men. (Guess where Biden and Netanyahu and their ilk fit in.)
Thanks for all your analyses, consistent with mine. The history that did not start on Oct 7 also did not start in 2009, when I warned Obama to prevent escalation - https://coronawise.substack.com/p/my-2009-warning-to-obama-about-gaza
It also didn't begin in 1990 when I stood on a Jerusalem corner with "Women in Black' weekly protests around Israel against the occupation. "It's the Occupation, Stupid!"
From much reading of comments and many many alternative sources of information I would like to present here something that I believe is a very relative question and view of the available information. First there was 9/11 which now everyone is comparing to this situation. From Fahrenheit 911 (the movie) and other reading I think Busch was guilty as sin. He was in the doldrums and needed this to commit all the war crimes he did. Now Netanyahu is under attack and about to loose his position he needed something (war) to save his ass. So once again the world's 2 greatest "Intelligence Agencies" completely drop the ball and still where the normal response time of the air defence and the IDF is typically seconds nothing happens!? Now I found out (watching Glenn Greenwald) from an actual Israeli citizen who has had his mother taken or killed that get this his mother was a supporter of the Palestinians! The area where they live (she lived) is close to the border and a large portion of those people living there are supporters of Palestine. So was this done on purpose? I mean it is a big win for a Mass Murdering Sociopath Netanyahu! He gets his war and kills some of his opponents at the same time.
I would enthusiastically embrace a Nuremburg style tribunal for media figures who are cheerleaders for war. How are they any different from Nazi propagandists? They are not. They are profiting from the utter misery of others for themselves and their masters. Once convicted, I recommend short drop hanging, ala Stutthof hangings in 1946 in Gdansk Poland. They deserve nothing less.
I doubt we'll see another Nuremburg trial by the likes of the US in our lifetime - given the state of US governance has descended into almost as fascist a state as Israel has clearly become. Every time I see or listen to Joe Biden - I can't help but think how much he represents the US symbolically: corrupt, decrepit, soon to die off with the rest of a warmongering empire. Trump is not much better - a billionaire conman pretending to be a populist.
P.S> Biden is just saying on TV that 'US leadership is what holds the world together' !
But what's holding him together? Vicodin?
Duct tape.
Hah!
i DO NOT REMEMBER WRITING THIS COMMENT,NOR DO I OWN IT!
You are indispensable, Catelin.! (Can't say anything new about you!)
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