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Vince Smith's avatar

They are beyond deluded vile zionist cult of Israel supporters. I mean who would ever say "oh poor vile zionist running over and killing innocent people" pootr him. The western pres are wholey culpabable in Genocide. All zionists need stopped. They are a danger to all.

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Susan T's avatar

Zionism is part of capitalist greed, part of white supremacy, part of colonialism, part of hate. Zionism and all the ingredients that make it up are destroying our planet. Now they mention nuclear retaliation. Our world is being destroyed by greedy people who do not seem able to see or understand their connection to anything.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Agreed! Zionism funds genocide — and not only genocide, but there’s also Democide and Menticide as well: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/democide-and-menticide

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Phillip Beard's avatar

A film commissioned by General Eisenhower to record the capture and "Liberation " of the Nazi concentration camps. Thousands of feet of grainy black and white film. Hundreds of thousand mass graves. Bulldozer buckets loaded with the limp, obscenely naked dead bodies. You can see a womans breasts move while she is scooped up. An arm thrown back over her shoulder, a wave from Hell. Genocide, mass murder are so undignified. We see real people doing their jobs. Matches up with the footage of in Gaza. Dead babies. In reel #6, at camp Bergen-Belsen, a bulldozer shoves bodies into mass graves. A woman's corpse waves. I watched this on Netflix.

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

I've visited the concentration camps when I lived in Germany. The smell was still there after 40+ years. I imagine it still lingers. It was as quiet as a tomb in the museum as it should be. Horrific beyond imagination. Boggles the mind that it could essentially happen again in Gaza. Horrific beyond belief.

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Pippi Smythe's avatar

Did you check the year of the make of the bulldozer?

Eisenhauer? Double check some pics are not after 1945 and are actually from Ike’s Rhine Meadow Death Camps.

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Phillip Beard's avatar

I was busy holding onto my sanity. Will check the makes of gear sent to Gaza from the Biden administration. Never Again?

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Phillip Beard's avatar

There are hundreds of oligarchs with businesses hooked on the artery of the endless war machines. Companies whose contractors over charge. So corrupt. With sec

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Kathleen Jorde's avatar

Yes, it big business at its worst.

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Phillip Beard's avatar

The U.S. Caterpillar co. provides their model D9 to the IDF. An armored bull dozer assist in filling mass graves with the dead families. The evidence of genocide is even more apparent when viewing how the Nazis handled theirs. Info from the AFSMCE web site. The film commissioned by Eisenhower has very little mention of the massive number of the jewish population that were exterminated. There was a political issue to avoid offending Germans as well as racism regarding the jews.

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Pippi Smythe's avatar

Caterpiller?

Rachel Corrie

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martin's avatar

finkelstein indeed argues that the 'holocaust-industry' didn't really take off until the 1967 israeli war. and indeed before the war quite some elites didn't really worry that much about jewish suffering (i read churchill divided the jews into good (conservative) and bad (communist/socialist) jews and 'admired' mr hitler's handling of the (latter) jews in the run-up to ww2). i also read most of the jews killed weren't from germany or western european countries but slavs: poland, balkans and soviet-union (23-27 million russians in total died in the war). i guess the percentage of dead among working people was also higher than the percentage of dead among the elites.maybe some of that is not entirely correct, idk, but it seemed that 'politics as usual' was indeed quickly reinstated after ww2 and that some things had to be given time to fade before the full horror of the holocaust could be revealed (utilized?).

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wilson's avatar

Pippi, thanks for the video. There is only downvote available and comments are turned off. Why is that?

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Pippi Smythe's avatar

Comments can get you banned? Trolls try and get you banned. Anyone paying attention: We lost rule of law and free speech long ago.

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forceOfHabit's avatar

Powerful. Painful.

And yet, I still believe Israeli society is eating its own young by turning them into desensitized killing machines, brainwashing them into willing murderers and rapists. This young IDF soldier has been betrayed by his own people. The crimes he has committed in their names belong both to him and to them, and justice cries out not just for the evil done to the Palestinians, but for the evil Zionists foist on their own people.

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Yvonne Zarowny's avatar

Yes - Israeli society is complicit in this horrid genocide, as are Americans as Americans are tolerating their leadership providing 'unconditional' support to the Zionist Netanyahu. And Europeans - particularly UK - as they too are tolerating this immoral occupation and war. And Canadians - as so many of the ingredients to make the weaponry and bulldozers come from Canada.

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forceOfHabit's avatar

You are absolutely right about the complicity of all the Western nations in this obvious genocide.

But what I was trying to highlight is that any society that chooses to go to war is effectively cannibilizing and devouring their own soldier/citizens. Most of them are too young to even recognize, let alone fight back against the propaganda and brainwashing necessary to turn psychologically healthy, happy human beings into avatars of death and destruction. Those that survive physically are almost inevitably wounded psychologically, doomed to a life of misery and regret. (Russians and Ukrainians, maybe even Hamas although they can make a strong case that their struggle is a justified one, please take note.)

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Yvonne Zarowny's avatar

I agree totally about the damage on all levels done to anyone caught in a war - including soldiers. I have done 'solidarity work' in a variety of regions around our amazing world. I have experienced/witnessed first hand the damage inflicted on soldiers - like you said - even in situations I thought were 'just'. And I dont think in the 'west' we give adequate mental and emotional support to people coming out of war zones - including soldiers. I was in Vietnam and Cambodia last month and was quite positively impressed with some of their programs (and success) for moving their citizenry 'forward' from decades of trying to throw off 'imperial' nation-states and having napalm dropped on them. I couldnt help comparing how they literally put peace in place compared to the genocide we are currently witnessing in the Middle East. I think a piece is no one is claiming to be a deity's 'Chosen People' with a 'Divine Right' to the land and its resources.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Like weeping over the poor suffering SS men who volunteered to work as concentration camp guards.

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kristofarian's avatar

once one accepts

dystopia as sanity

there Is no bottom

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Levi Tate's avatar

I found the following post at MoA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFOTBAiTHZA&t=310s

This is psychiatrist Gabor Maté, father of well known journalist Aaron Maté. Himself a Jew and Holocaust survivor. He discusses and explains the pathology of Israel. Explanation ain't excuses. He calls Israelis sadists.

Left unsaid is there is no good prognosis. At the individual level imaginable, if unlikely, there might be some resolution. At the social level nothing is going to end the vicious sadism except driving the Israelis into the sea. Until then it only gets worse. Then the Zionists will be returning to Brooklyn and Rogers Park, where they will continue being insane. The US will deserve it. It's going to be hard to live here.

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Levi Tate's avatar

The same poster at MoA (aka "oldhippie") posted this this morning.

It is a link to a 10 month old video. As we now know, the depravity and sadism of Israelis has become worse and worse, if that is even possible. Or perhaps instead of 'worse and worse' I should say, 'more obvious and undeniable'.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV0pEUXMz6M

"The Friendship Song". Multiple Israeli childrens's choirs singing about 'elimination". Getting children to celebrate mass murder.

Time for Israel and its godforsaken Bronze Age cult to go bye-bye.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 23 2024 13:43 utc | 169

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ps, I am not that poster (oldhippie)

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forceOfHabit's avatar

That video is a chilling example of how Zionist society is perverting and brainwashing their own children. It wont matter who prevails on the battlefield in the near term, in the not so long term Israeli civil society is doomed.

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Michael's avatar

I don’t know if that’s an answer either. Of course ethnically cleansing the colony is also wrong (although it’s natural to want to expel invaders). Israel has a right to exist but not as an apartheid fascist state just like Germany had a right to exist but not as Nazi Germany.

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Levi Tate's avatar

Here is why Israel has a "right to exist".

1) I torture UN workers

2) I bomb embassies

3) I refuse to declare my official borders as I want more and more of other countries' (plural) land

4) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries.

5) All criticism by any member of the World Community just reinforces my sense of privileged Victimhood

6) I never tell a lie as I have no concept. I only know what serves me.

7) I invented the Samson Option and will take the rest of you with me.

8) I commit collective punishment

9) I kidnap thousands, including children, with no judicial oversight

10) I will commit torture if I see fit and even if I don't

11) I oppress occupied inhabitants and enjoy doing so

12) I commit rape with impunity against mine enemies

13) I steal land with impunity

14) I murder with impunity

15) I commit premeditated Genocide

16) I look forward to war and prod my neighbors for more

17) I need money, send a check

18) I commit false flags and if friends or even my own people are sacrificed so be it.

19) I implement the Hannibal Doctrine

20) Treachery and betrayal of my own people are a means to an end

21) I support and conduct terrorism.

22) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries, seeking support for all of the above

23) I know that I can count on other amoral nations to support my wars, oppression and theft.

24) I know that the World Community will not stop me as I commit future Genocides

25) I target aid trucks and kill their workers;

26) I especially target hospitals;

27) I kill civilians prisoners, women and children and old people.

28) I use my lobbyists to attack, intimidate and silence freedom of speech

29) I torture and kill UN workers and their dependents

30) I protected Zionist perpetrators of the Holocaust and lie about their role.

31) I cannibalize living Palestinian captives for their internal organs

32) I sadistically burn Palestinian civilians alive and celebrate my act.

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Leon Brown, Jr.'s avatar

The ugly, painful truth.....

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Rukshana Afia's avatar

True - but I can't " like " it .

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Levi Tate's avatar

You offer a work around to the ambiguity of 'LIKE'.

People should Like your post instead of mine.

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wilson's avatar

I liked the comment thinking the poster would know why. Still hard to push the like button.

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

Palestinians are NOT the invaders.

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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

In such an eventuality, this possible successor state should not, and must not, be called "Israel", in my opinion. It must be called "Palestine". The name "Israel" is now, and forever will be, inextricably associated with the Palestinian genocide--the Palestinian H views viewsolocaust--which the state currently bearing that name has perpetrated, and is perpetrating, and with all the marginally lesser evils it has worked for it's entire 76 year existence: ethnic cleansing, land theft, massacres, child murder, war crimes, crimes against humanity, torture, apartheid, and on and on. The star of David flag must go too: it is essentially the equivalent of the swastika flag of the Nazis. The new flag must be the Palestinian flag. Those Jewish Israelis willing to abandon their Jewish supremacist views, and those who have never held such views, should be allowed to remain as citizens of this new state. The others should be extirpated root and branch, being as they are an abomination before all humanity.

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

100%

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

👏👏 Well said! Your comment bears repeating and propagating over and over again. Thank you W.F.Miloglav!

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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

Very kind of you, thank you. Your own comments always most excellent and well worth rereading and repeating.

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Yvonne Zarowny's avatar

Do the Palestinians also have a 'right to exist' - as a separate independent nation state? I am no longer convinced Israel has a 'right to exist' as a Jewish nation-state. The Palestinians were not consulted when Britain (England actually - Lord Balfour) and Zionist Lord Rothschild- 'gave' a portion of the Palestinian Territory to Zionists because of the horror in Nazi Germany. They could have had a place in a sparsely inhabited part of Africa so the heavily inhabited Palestinian Territory was not the only place the mostly white European Jewish people could have had a nation-state.

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kristofarian's avatar

they Shouldda given 'em

a nice Big Chunk of

Deutschland

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

I fully agree.

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andy tonti's avatar

Agree with you that Israel has a right to defend themselves, but you also claim it natural to need to expel invaders. If that statement refers to the present situation in Gaza I take issue that the Palestinians are not invaders but have occupied their lands prior to the Israel statehood, and truly are not threatening Israel as ethic enemies!

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Levi Tate's avatar

Five years ago if someone asked you, "who has the right to commit genocide?"

Without hesitation, you and everybody else would reply, "No one."

No one has the right to justify Genocide as "self-defense". No one.

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CrumpledForeskin's avatar

They don’t have a right. The land was stolen and given to them illegally. Whether you want to believe they are a legal entity, there is no coming back from what they’ve done. It has to be dismembered.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

"we tacitly consent to while we distract ourselves

with smartphones and streaming services and porn and gossip

and the ridiculous fake election for America’s next fake president"

Bingo! That prominent billionaire Zionist, Larry Fink, BlackRock CEO, confirmed it yesterday: from the perspective of the pigs and their fake economy on Wall St., it matters not a drop of blood who's elected US president. The meat market at home and abroad will flourish no matter who sits in that stupid oval office and tells whopping lies to the world.

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andy tonti's avatar

Touché

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Beth Curtis's avatar

Thank you for writing this. It must have been painful. We need your voice.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

Israeli society will very soon suffer from simultaneous economic and social collapse. There is massive emigration and outflow of investments. If they attack Iran, their major infrastructure will be destroyed in a matter of hours. The end of the functioning state will come much faster than people think.

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

That may be just what needs to occur.

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Judy Bancroft's avatar

Yes - agree - but if they attack Iran the US will respond and that’s WW3 isn’t it? Also - where are they emigrating to? US I suppose - can’t think of many countries that would welcome them ….

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Stephen Walker's avatar

If the US attacks Iran, its bases in Iraq and Syria will be immediately wiped out. If the US uses any of its bases in Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, or Oman to attack Iran, the bases used will be destroyed by massive missile and drone strikes. If the US attacks Iran from an aircraft carrier in or near the Persian Gulf, it will be sunk. If the US strikes Iranian oil and gas infrastructure, or its nuclear facilities, Russia may become directly involved.

Israeli emigrants are going to wherever they can get to. Some of them have dual citizenship, some of them have skills and qualifications that enable them to get visas.

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russian_bot's avatar

Seems to be the case for some Russian Jews. Now they want to come back.

Funny a few of them left for Israel after Feb 2022 stating "they can't be in a country that goes to war with its neighbors".

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Guest's avatar

And the cost of oil will double overnight. Crash and burn.

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andy tonti's avatar

I fear that many countries would not welcome Palestinian refugees based on the impression that they (Hamas) exists as a terroristic entity, and could present security issues within their nations

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Jack Horner's avatar

Quite likely... whilst ignoring the following: how many Gazans were Hamas and how many Israelis were IDF?

Low% vs 100?% respectively.

I bet they welcome in the Zioscum regardless of the actual threat to social good.

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Debbie's avatar

Human meat had nothing to do with my going vegan 40 years ago, but whatever it takes. Disgusting how Zionists have no more regard for Palestinians than the average human has for chickens. Maybe a good time to consider those lives, and their horrible deaths, too.

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How ie's avatar

The Zionists literally have a phrase to describe this. “yorim ve bochim” ie shooting and crying

Bassem youssef spoke about it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_and_crying

They’re so deranged.

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Justruth's avatar

The system has rendered us all inhuman. How have we become inured to this horror, even all of us who seethe with rage every minute at the unending, poisonous flood of images of the slaughter in Gaza? Caitlyn, you are our conscience, our fire alarm, the gnawing in our gut, the nightmare which awakens us drenched in sweat, attempting to rouse our souls from their stupor. Thank you from the depth of my heart. May we all work for justice and contribute in our own way.

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David Forbes's avatar

Wow Caitlin, what a terrible, moving, powerful poem! It really captures the essence of this genocide and the awful failure of western media to countenance it. I read your blogs every day. Keep going! You do brilliant work!

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Longtrail's avatar

A report came in my news feed yesterday. People are getting food poisoning from Big Macs due to an E-COLI outbreak.😂

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kristofarian's avatar

likely leftovers

from the donold's

photo opportunity

.

EVERYTHING

he Touches

turns to

shite.

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Philo's avatar

One of your best Caitlin, thank you.

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Joy in HK's avatar

The Hind Rajab Foundation has filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

Just 1000? I am sure that there are far more than that who have committed crimes against humanity of the most hideous type.

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Jack Horner's avatar

That will be those that are identified with evidence (probably self submitted to the web). It's a solid start.

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Valerie's avatar

Thank you Caitlin, the images you capture are imprinted in my brain, I don't feel sorrow for those that perpetuated these crimes. I hope they look at their own child's face and imagine it bloody with horrified pleading eyes. The world needs to open their eyes and see the children and people of Gaza are our children and brothers and sisters. Otherwise we are all doomed.

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Bruce Tracy's avatar

I have a love/hate relationship with how you make my heart feel. 💔

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