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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

How dare those Iranians hit back in a war started by Israel and the U.S.?

Stuart Estrine's avatar

“Iran is fighting for its very existence as a state.” Indeed. The lunatic, genocidal Zionist state (redundant) and its sponsor, the United States of Christian Zionists, has brought the world to the brink of economic collapse and possibly nuclear catastrophe. Western Europe isn’t much better. What is to be done ? The only hope for the world is international solidarity of the working class and a united front in the face of capitalism/imperialism/Zionism. Can it be done ? A wise person once said “Socialism or barbarism.” We are there.

Whatistobedone's avatar

YES! 👍👊👏💪👍

Whatistobedone's avatar

A bit of a digression: I am tired of hearing this: "Do you believe israyhell HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST?" HENCEFORTH. My answer will be a declarative sentence, not an interogative: "Palestine HAD a RIGHT to exist." Or, "Iran has a right to exist." Or "Lebanon has a RIGHT to exist." And so on and so forth. WHATEVER sovereign state is israyhell's TARGET DU JOUR.

X K's avatar

"Do you believe israyhell HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST?"

Wanna think there's a special place reserved for it in Hell.

Whatistobedone's avatar

PRECISELY. 'murKKKan Nazis are always *AGHAST* ....when the TERRORIZED FIGHT BACK.... "Why....sputter sputter sputter....how DARE they fight back!" It's the Nazi way...including, even mostly, the legions of (~80% ish?)

israyhelli nazies. Only THEY are "permitted" to gleefully, in celebration, COMMIT ONGOING GENOCIDE.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

You must mean "Ashkenazi". Don't be ant-Semitic now... LOL!

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

I guess the Iranian populace should just bend over and take it up the ass. The petroleum cartels will steadfastly refuse to provide proper lubrication, and populations in the west will continue to enjoy their intellectual vacation...

Veronica Baker's avatar

Wow, I really love those words " populations in the west will continue to enjoy their intellectual vacation"....

So apt, paints a picture in the mind.

Aaron's avatar

She has a gift with words that hit like a brick. I wish she'd get more exposure than she does.

X K's avatar

Well, this - “I will never, ever express sympathy for Israelis. Ever. Under any circumstances. To do so would be irresponsible, because Israel always weaponizes sympathy and then uses that weapon to commit mass atrocities” - is something that has needed to be said.

And this, “History has clearly established that the world was wrong to give Israel sympathy for October 7” should rightly be restated to read, “History has clearly established that the world – actually, principally the United States and its Western European vassals – were wrong to allow for the creation of Israel on May 15, 1948.”

Related to the first paragraph, I’m tired of, and don’t give a s*** about, claims of antisemitism (itself an appropriated term, as Semitic peoples mean more than Jews), whether real, exaggerated, mischaracterized, imagined, or however conjured. To the extent that no distinction is made between Jewishness and Israel/Zionism, then the term applies as a rightful expression of revulsion. I won’t deny supporters of, and apologists for, Israel/Zionists their legal rights in this country – though morally I feel they don’t deserve such protections – but I’m within my rights to shun them in all spheres beyond the legal for what they are, and that’s not antisemitism – much as they may wish to brand it – it’s just a normal, human, conscionable reaction to their actions, their attitudes, their feeling of supremacy, their arrogance, their complicity in genocide, their ignorance, all of which are repugnant and disgusting on whatever scale.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Keep talking, or rather writing, words when written down carry such a wealth of meaning for me. I wonder if that is why after symbols, the Chinese long, long time ago warned of how powerful they were and could carry a danger of their own?

We share similar feelings, the only real difference for what you expressed and I expressed in my main comment further down the pile is, I expressed why I had the right to feel the way I do against Israel and how I arrived at that point. Otherwise we're just about agreeing on things.

Yesterday I was looking out for you as I had a book I was going to mention, this morning ( for me) it's tootled off into oblivion, it will come back to me at some point or I'll find it amongst the multitude of notes I made yesterday as I know I wrote it down somewhere. 🤔

John Ressler's avatar

More like a moral vacation in the western world.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

If a wasp strings, it is normal to reply with a hit.

Zionshitfly should not have stung. Then it would not have gotten smacked in its face.

Aamir Razak's avatar

well said Ms. Akdemir. This is probably the exact thinking of the imperialist and genocidal occupiers, they cannot fathom any sort of retaliation to their wanton bloodshed

Geoffrey Maddocks's avatar

"The weaponisation of antisemitism is making Jews less safe"

"Revulsion at Israel’s actions in Gaza is driving a global rise in antisemitism, while efforts to conflate criticism of Israel with hatred of Jews are deepening the danger."

"If I criticise Israel over genocide that does not make me antisemitic. If I criticise India that does not make me anti Hindu. If I criticise Indonesia that does not make me anti Muslim."

https://johnmenadue.com/post/2026/03/the-weaponisation-of-antisemitism-is-making-jews-less-safe/

Feral Finster's avatar

This weaponzation is entirely intentional.

Aamir Razak's avatar

certainly feral, and it is used as such to provide "justification" for heinous actions and war crime

David Korabell's avatar

"Revulsion at Israel’s actions in Gaza is driving a global rise in antisemitism, while efforts to conflate criticism of Israel with hatred of Jews are deepening the danger."

Correction :

"Israel's efforts to conflate criticism of Israel with hatred of Jews are deepening the revulsion at Israel’s actions in Gaza"

Veronica Baker's avatar

Exactly and all done on purpose so they can hold their constant pity parties in front of television cameras, get idiots who can't see through the act to donate to the Israeli cause.

Davina's avatar

Yep, not so many mocking Gazans now 😂

Veronica Baker's avatar

The Israeli's don't like the new air conditioning that Iran gave for free. 😁

Davina's avatar

They always find something to whine about. You would think they would be pleased that their methods are being taken up by Iran.

Veronica Baker's avatar

There's no pleasing some people. 😉

Davina's avatar

Criticising Israeli and its Jewish population is not, cannot be antisemitism because these European jews are not, never have been Semites. While the people of Palestine are Semitic, even the Christians and Buddhists there, because their ancestry is Semitic and has been for thousands of years. You want to upset Israelis? Do not allow them to hide behind an ancestry they have no history with. 80 years on stolen land does not make them semites, they do not speak a Semitic language, they speak a made up one.

Also my sympathy for israel died many years ago, at least fifty, when I discovered how they were treating the indigenous people of Palestine. Nothing they've done since has changed my mind that they are cruel, thieving, lying, murdering rapists full of shit.

David Baird's avatar

I think you've nailed it there, Davina. Mileikowski (Bibi's Polish family name) makes him about as semitic as Lonnie Donegan.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Lonnie Donegan, would that be he of " does your chewing gum lose it's flavour on the bedpost over night" or is there a more recent one of similar sounding name. I'm now mentally going, was it Donnigan or Donegan of chewing gum fame.

Davina's avatar

Yep, and running after the rubbish is cart, asking if they're too late? 'No, jump up on the cart!' In My old man's a dustman. Would work well for israelis being so much rubbish.

Veronica Baker's avatar

😂 there's that one too, would he be wearing his dustmans hat or a helmet for a change.

David Baird's avatar

Chewing gum. Lonnie was an early skiffle band player in the 50s.

Veronica Baker's avatar

That record was in a pile of secondhand records that came with my first ever record player my uncle bought for me when I was eleven or twelve, so '66 or '67. That's why I remember it so well.

gypsy33's avatar

Just OMG Veronica!

How OLD are we that we remember that song 😂😂😂

drednorzt's avatar

Right in the goolies.

Feral Finster's avatar

I don't sympathize with Israelis at all, any more than i feel sorry for germans when their cities were leveled. Hell, the Israelis got more of a choice.

I was treated to one Israeli ass, whining that he and his family had to go to bomb shelters. Well, his elected government did a thousand times worse to gazans, and Israel started this war.

Landru's avatar

My friend, I ask you as I was asked, Can israel exist after these billions of War Crimes.

Veronica Baker's avatar

It shouldn't but unless Iran does a damn good number on them, I fear it will and it will be all of us in the West that Israel goes to for money and supplies to rebuild their unholy nation.

KWTF's avatar

that was one of my first thoughts after watching the destruction of tel aviv. 'watch congress and the [p]resident decide we (the people) are going to pay to rebuild israel.'

Veronica Baker's avatar

And no doubt the constant television appearances of Israeli's shattered to their very core, like no one ever suffered before them. Thank goodness I don't own a television and can pick and choose what videos I watch.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

:-) life without a TV is awesome, i can reccomend it to everyone.

But.... live streams on youtube are also a pain.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Totally agree about the awesome bit, people used to feel sorry for me for some odd reason because I couldn't join in the conversation with them at work, they had no idea that I felt even sorrier for them because it's all they talked about.

Rare I watch lives on any video platform, I generally wait until it's done to watch and if it's not what I feel comfortable with I can either turn it off or move it along to see if it improves at all. Exception made for Prof Marandi unless he's on Piers Morgan, can't abide Morgan, he honestly makes me feel physically ill.

deda's avatar

🇮🇱 is getting its ass kicked.

Veronica Baker's avatar

It's getting more air conditioning than it's ever had before, that's for sure. The problem with Israel, slyness is their second nature, so while they're meeting a force they've never met before in their lives, I'm waiting a while before I celebrate.

Keeping my eyes on Modi and Co.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

The firebombing of Dresden intentionally *slaughtered* approximately 35,000 NON-COMBATANT civilians in a city that possessed *no validated military targets* whatsoever. I guess it's alright to slaughter NON-COMBATANT civilians and reduce history to a pile of ash and ruins... You are sick. Get a grip.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

There are no adult non-combatants in Israel. Military service is mandatory because it is a state built on war. And those who have completed their contract can be recalled up to the age of 40. Netanyahu's genocidal policies are widely popular within Israeli society based on Israeli polling. Yes, it is all right to take a strong stand against evil and bring it to its knees before it drags the ENTIRE WORLD into nuclear ruin. The one thing the Israelis fear more than death itself is humiliation, and this fear has historically caused them to act irrationally. Tens of thousands of Israeli lives are a drop in the fucking bucket compared to 11 billion. You need to get a grip on the sense of scale. You would be sick not to help rid the world of a cancer threatening to take its life.

The correct figure at Dresden is "up to 25,000" by the way, which is less than the number of school age children Israelis have murdered in Gaza.

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-myths-about-dresden-1945-victim-numbers-debunked/a-71584565

Literally Mussolini's avatar

All people in Israel who are not currently in the military are in fact human shields. And all among those who are Zionists are willfully accepting that role.

Elizabeth's avatar

There are a few, a very few, conscientious objectors who go to jail rather than serve. There are more who repent later, and speak out about atrocities they saw committed during their service. For the sake of of our own humanity I think it's important to remember them.

And then there's tactics - as much as there's a visceral thrill to the thought of those vicious bastards getting hit, and getting a small taste of what they dish out, in practice it will just make them even meaner. I don't blame Iran - what choice do they have - but I'm very afraid of escalation.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I said this somewhere else but I'll repost it. If a radiologist tells me I have a tumor on my small intestine and that it has to be surgically removed to increase my chances of surviving and that it's going to be very invasive and some healthy tissue will die, I don't mourn the undoubtedly hundreds of thousands of healthy cells that will die in the surgery or cancer treatments. I celebrate removing the cancer so that the other 40 trillion cells can live, function, and continue creating me.

Davina's avatar

A neighbour of mine, a truly special lady was diagnosed with cancer. We saw the wight she lost, her hair as well, but the smile still appeared, maybe a bit weaker a times. She has been given a clean bill of health, which is fantastic news.

I am with you on killing the cancer that is israel, to heal the planet. I will not feel regret for those who merrily killed babies and found it funny, who gang raped hostages - let's be honest, of all those held in these torture prisons none were combatants, it is HOSTAGES they are torturing.

Veronica Baker's avatar

I literally said similar in my main comment about the military service and then in reserve.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

When one man is murdered, it is a tragedy. When millions are murdered, it's a statistic... The photos on the linked page depict the burned ruins of history. Europeans seem to hate all sense of history, thus continually burn the evidence...

ennui_mcgee's avatar

The European mind does not forget ALL sense of history. Are we living on the same planet? It forgets only the history inconvenient to its conscience. This is why Europeans and Eurocentric minds can condemn the bombing of Dresden or the Holocaust out of one side of their mouth while out of the other side silently approve of the genocide of Palestinians or Africans or any colonized people throughout history.

David Avenell's avatar

Kurt Vonnegut was a POW in Dresden for that event ( Which inspired him to write Slaughterhouse 5 ) and in some of his non fiction works, he described the lasting trauma he suffered.

Apparently, at a public speaking event years later some Amerikan Karen demanded "What gives you the right to make our children so cynical?"

Go figure.

aDoozy's avatar

As with horrendous acts of destruction and killing in this world's history, there are differing views and assessments in the years after. I have read about the bombing of Dresden, and recommend books by David Irving. Hopefully the public library system can find one or more to loan, as current purchase prices are very high.

Elizabeth's avatar

But if you are still a decent human, you should have sympathy for Germans when their cities were leveled. I'm pretty sure there were quite a few more anti-Nazi Germans than there are anti-genocide Israelis

Patrick Powers's avatar

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

Maria Ines Azambuja's avatar

Have you thought about how could be the world today if the State of Israel had not been created in 1948? Big mistake!

jamenta's avatar

Been thinking about a lot of "what-could-have-beens" of late. So many trillions wasted on war and propaganda. On the US MIC that has churned out a trillion dollar a year American military that couldn't wage war with the Munchkins of Wizard of Oz, little less Iran. So many lives destroyed, so many resources wasted over a bunch of golfing billionaires in their super yachts who want us all to believe being rich and sociopathic like them is all that life should be about.

CK's avatar

The Palestinians knew that, long before 1947.

Whatistobedone's avatar

"Mistake"? I think they KNEW and planned for the EVIL to follow. I do NOT give them the "credit" of having made a "mistake," which implies a sense of whoopsie. Have NEVER heard that.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Definitely planned.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Fuck Israelis. Fuck its supporters.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Cancel the Zionist Entity.

Landru's avatar

Yes, 100% agree. Not sure I would have said that 2 yrs ago and I would have been wrong then. Thank you.

Veronica Baker's avatar

The main thing is you know it now and are on the right side. That's the main thing.

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Educate others. TY too.

jamenta's avatar

"It’s starting to look like it’s only a matter of time before the US and/or Israel does something in Iran that makes the world a much darker place than it already is. Someone’s got to rein these psychopaths in."

The world really now is hanging on a thread. The Middle-East on a precipice of no return, which will impact all of us for years to come. It is clear now the US president is a maniac who has lost all rational decision making capabilities. Something really does need to be done, or the consequences are unbelievably dire.

Patrick Powers's avatar

In this matter the president has the full backing of almost all of DC and, even more key, the support of Big Money. The USA fossil fuel industry will make a megafortune off of the interruption in the foreign oil supply, the arms manufacturers will do handsomely as well.

Davina's avatar

And all because America feels safe from attack by being so isolated from the rest if the world. They should remember Japan managed it, as Drumpf pointed out, with his usual bad manners to the Japanese PM(?). There are many countries that have worked out how their bombs can reach America, it would be wise to remember that.

CK's avatar

The root cause of the problem is deeply seated within the USA, along with the true headquarters of Israel— a military base and staging area of the US armed forces.

Israel would not exist without the continuous support of the American Empire.

Veronica Baker's avatar

The biggest problem is that this is what both parties in the US government have wanted for a long, long time. Both sides are equally as guilty of supporting the Israeli's slaughtering Palestinians, and elsewhere. Both sides want to see Iran wiped out. It is exactly the same here in the English parliament, we also support Israel financially as the USA does, the only difference here is it's done under the secrecy act so they don't, like the US tell the public and most of the public here don't bother to find the information for themselves. Secrecy Act or not, you can find out if you really want to. So support for what Israel and the US is doing is as strong here as it is in both sides of Congress. Look up at how they vote is my advice to anyone whether in the USA or the UK.

jamenta's avatar

So true. But what is stunning is these same people in charge are so willing to blow up the economy of the world, literally make the Middle-East a wasteland, before they give up their insistence for war upon Iran. The US government apparently doesn't give a shit if the entire Middle-East becomes a radioactive wasteland, and Israel has been fanatically suicidal for decades now - and seems all too willing to bring about Armageddon to their tiny plot of land.

I guess we're all about to see (soon) the outcome of all this, since it can't continue as is.

Davina's avatar

If the Far West becomes becomes a radioactive wilderness the winds that circle the planet can carry that radioactive dust all the way around it, and few places will be spared. Only a moron would drop nukes on Iran because of their position it's been worked that the worldwide spread is a surety. Since israel has said it will send it's nukes everywhere, it might be time to cancel them sooner than later. With no regrets.

Elizabeth's avatar

It's not actually true. There are some Dems (not a lot, but some) who have a morally consistent and principled stand against agression, apartheid, and various forms of evil.

On the other side the closest are Thomas Massie and Rand Paul, but they're still mostly evil freaks who happen to once in a while do the right thing.

The Dem leadership is usually evil and sometimes feckless and irresponsible, and no one should send money or give support to the leadership. But it's worth supporting the few decent ones, and trying to strengthen them and elect more. Don't forget them; don't write them off.

Veronica Baker's avatar

As I said in one of my comments above, look up how anyone votes, that is where you find the truth and of course, the odd diamond standing out from the other's. Looking up how they vote doesn't mean just finding the worst but it is a good pointer if their vote matches their words, unfortunately, very often it doesn't.

Lisa Savage's avatar

Iran has now announced it did not fire missiles at Diego Garcia. Others are reporting Chinese and Russian satellites show the missiles coming from an Israeli submarine. So, yet another false flag this time with the goal of screeching, "Iran now has missiles that can reach Europe!"

JennyStokes's avatar

Yes I saw this too..................more attacks on Dimona I hope.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Yup... There will be continuing false flag attacks perpetrated by Israel, and the main stream media will continue to publish zionist bullshit. Ooopsy! Here's a bit of a java wake up:

US intel chief Gabbard says Iran was not rebuilding enrichment prior to war >>> Gabbard’s testimony contradicts one of several justifications US President Trump has given for launching war with Iran. >>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18/us-intel-chief-gabbard-says-iran-was-not-rebuilding-enrichment-prior-to-war

Details, details...

Veronica Baker's avatar

I saw her being asked those questions, the ultimate squirm in her seat moment. She didn't want to answer straight out if Trump knew so went all around the flower bed, didn't matter, the damage was already done.

martin's avatar

https://normalislandnews.substack.com/p/starmer-sends-israel-strongly-worded?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

some satire on this. rutte says nato is examining the incident, but already said that attacking iran's missile-factories seemed a prescient 'good idea' in light of this.

Feral Finster's avatar

Rutte's sole priority is The War On Russia, specifically, getting Americans to fight for europe.

Again.

martin's avatar

sure, and the prize for the european elites would be yet cheaper gas and oil (after a 5 to 10 year temporary 'investment' in slightly more expensive us fracked lng). they lured victoria nuland in 'investing' 5 billion into 'promoting democracy' in preparation of the coup in 2014, and duped her into rejecting the deal with yanukovich ('fuck the eu') while throwing their full support behind the fascist factions among the putschists (european politicians on maidan square). in 2015 they lured putin into the minsk-accords which they (merkel& hollande) deliberately let fail. at the end of 2021 they convinced nato & the us to ignore the russian proposals for a new european security treaty and pushed the ukrainian nazi-militias to intensify their attacks on the 2 donbas republics. (american elites didn't really object to all these shennanigans, though). now the conniving rutte seeks to make a deal with trump: european help in the strait of hormuz (probably ultimately also a crisis of european making, if you dig deep enough) as a trade of for escalations in ukraine. damn europeans, if only the americans had paid a little more attention, they wouldn't be at the mercy of those perfidious europeans.

Feral Finster's avatar

Europeansl strategy since 1917 has been to get Americans to do their fighting for them.

Feral Finster's avatar

The british and french lobbied hard in 1917.

Umi Sinha's avatar

You're right, unfortunately. The attitude you describe is the one that has always applied to Palestinians, who are supposed to let themselves be oppressed, robbed, and massacred without resistance, because any resistance is labelled as terrorism. And as it happens, there are big demos against the war on Iran both happening and planned in the UK. But unfortunately demos don't achieve much if politicians and the mainstream media ignore them, and even if they change public opinion it makes no difference if politicians and the media ignore the public too. Until an election, of course, when hopefully something may change. But after the last few UK referendums and elections, I'm not even confident about that. And I do actually have some sympathy for individual Israelis that I know, who are even more gutted by what's happening than we are.

Landru's avatar

Yes, I share the same experience. However now I question what they really believe as I never did before. I have noticed the israeli flags are disappearing from desk tops and lab spaces.

I still have my Keffiyeh on my car seat back.

CK's avatar

Many Israelis were born in Israel as offspring of refugees. Not all of them are Zionists.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

But there are some Israelis, or should I say former Israelis, such as Alon Mizrahi, and Avigail Abarbanel, who have turned into truth tellers, and turn away from Zionism, their Israeli roots. Their Substacks are invaluable resources. Other Israelis still speak the truth, even if small in numbers, some have left, such as Ilan Pappé, Miko Peled, others remain, such as Gideon Levy, the Parents Circle, and others. They bear witness whilst being surrounded by a sea of madness. The cauldron of ethnosupremacy combined with complete impunity makes for a cult of utter depravity.

CK's avatar

Leaving the land of one’s birth is easier said than done.

All Americans who are not descendants of the Native Americans, Aztecs or Mayans are currently living on stolen land. A “cauldron of ethnosupremacy combined with complete impunity makes for a cult of utter depravity” even within the USA.

Many Americans would find it difficult to leave the USA to seek citizenship elsewhere, especially in lands in which English is not the main language and in which most Americans would be illiterate.

Feral Finster's avatar

Well, following the Hamas incursion, lots of Israelis managed to leave, so the countries where they came from presumably are taking them.

CK's avatar

Where do the native-born non-Zionist Israelis go if they want to leave Israel?

Feral Finster's avatar

I suspect that you are asking for a unicorn sanctuary, but there are presumably countries that would take them.

Veronica Baker's avatar

But if when they reach adulthood and choose to remain on what is really stolen land gained by the deaths and driving out of Palestinians, if they really believe it is wrong what Israel is doing then surely that is the time you choose to leave that land and make your life else?

Patrick Powers's avatar

In this matter the president has the full backing of almost all of DC and, even more key, the support of Big Money. The USA fossil fuel industry will make a megafortune off of the interruption in the foreign oil supply, the arms manufacturers will do handsomely as well. Somehow this is never mentioned.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Yep and how many in government seats have money invested in that industry, the MIC too.

Landru's avatar

However, there is also destruction on the consumption side as well. We shall see. It would be like nuclear weapons builders cheering nuclear war but then.................. of course.

Diane Engelhardt's avatar

And we're supposed to feel sorry for 100 wounded Israelis after their "most moral army in the world" has murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranian civilians, including CHILDREN??? Boo-fucking-hoo!!! I hate to see any civilians killed, injured or displaced in stupid wars, but this time Zionist Israel has every bit of death and destruction coming. And they should be the very last people on earth to so much as utter the word, let alone accuse Iran of "blatant" war crimes! These "people" truly have no shame!

Nick Heffernan's avatar

30,000 people marched to the US embassy in London on March 7th to protest the empire’s unprovoked attack on Iran. I was among them. Let’s hope the anti-war movement builds momentum fast because, like the empire’s genocide, this war is broadly reviled by normal human beings.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Hopefully it will grow, it should but sometimes people don't see Iran as worthy as Palestine, not sure why as without Iran, Palestine would have fully vanished by now. In spite of all the sanctions on Iran, every year a certain amount is set aside for the Palestinians. This has been going on for decades now, so they should march on that alone.

tre peperoncini's avatar

Thank-you for marching!

CK's avatar

Iran is fighting for its very existence as a state.”

Veronica Baker's avatar

It is. Another interesting fact about Iran, did you know it has more refugee's than any other country in the world.

CK's avatar
Mar 22Edited

A huge number of refugees from Afghanistan, and some from Iraq, driven out by the armed forces of the USSR and of the USA went to Iran.

The USA, under Joe Biden, abandoned many Afghans who collaborated with the US armed forces. Those Afghans are considered traitors by their own people and had to flee.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Iran always strike me as pretty amazing because they never seem to turn away anyone if they need a place to live. Much better for the Afghans than having to turn to Europe. Let's hope those who made the mistake of helping US forces, have learnt a lesson about loyalty. 😉

CK's avatar
Mar 22Edited

The various peoples of Iran have a history that is at least 7,000 years old. The Persians and their culture have dominated Iran for approximately 2,500 years (plus or minus). Islam has prevailed in Iran for approximately 1400 years.

Aside from the indigenous Native Americans, the history of the USA as a nation is only 250 years old, and without ay distinct hereditary culture.

Most Americans, today are either immigrants or the offspring of immigrants who arrived within the past two centuries — some as slaves, some as indentured servants and some as refugees. The masters and bosses, fearing an organized workforce, have tried to instill a culture of “every man for himself”.

Not all Americans have espoused that credo, but many have, especially the wealthy sociopaths and psychopaths who tend to rise in political and corporate power, or as charlatans in some religious circles.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

CK, ..... driven out by the armed forces of the USSR.... ?!!

CK's avatar

Yes. Military troops from the USSR bombed Afghanistan long before the American soldiers did. The USSR was building a gas pipeline through Afghanistan, and the Afghanis did not approve.

The US government provided weapons to the Mujahideen and the Taliban to fight against the Soviet occupation.

Lowell Googins's avatar

Fully agree with this post with the exception of the failed attack on Diego Garcia. USRAEL is desperate to get other countries to join the war that is going very badly for them. Iran has clearly stated they did not attack. False flag ops is classic Israeli modus operandi.

Veronica Baker's avatar

If Iran says it didn't send them, then I believe them, they have more to gain by saying they did. Usual Israel tactics at work.

John's avatar
Mar 22Edited

International sympathy is Israel’s favorite weapon of mass destruction.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

The UNSC and other countries in the region blame Iran, even though it was struck first while negotiating peace for the second time.

How racist do people have to be to go along with this?

Veronica Baker's avatar

They have to be nearly as bad as Israel and place Iranians in the level of animals, savages at best. I wonder what those people would say if they knew that Israel sees them as no better than animals too.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Veronica Baker, What would they say if those who revel in being white suprematists, knew that the Iranians are Aryans, and the Nazis whom they revere 'stole' the Swastika emblem from the Buddhists?!

Patrick Powers's avatar

The swastika is a Hindu symbol of Vishnu's rotating disc weapon. Buddhists prefer circles.

Patrick Powers's avatar

"White supremacist" and "racist" are actually a misnomers. They are completely in favor of suppressing members of their own race. But these terms are so ingrained there is no hope of changing their usage.

And northern Chinese are the whitest people on Earth. My niece lived in China and said the Chinese were baffled as to why they were not considered white. "We are white people too" they said.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Patrick, It just goes to show how stupid these categories are. Everything is used and abused. Language most of all.

Veronica Baker's avatar

The same goes for India, north and south are completely different skin colours, starts off near black and ends up as white as white can be.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Funny thing you should mention that, Hitler was friends with Iran and he mentioned they were Aryans. The Swastika like the cross that Christians use is found all around the world in many different cultures for different reasons, sometimes going in one direction, sometimes in the opposite, depending on what they're using it as a symbol for. So while I agree Buddhists did use it, so did other cultures before 500BC roughly when Buddha appeared.

Patrick Powers's avatar

Iran means "land of the Aryans."

Veronica Baker's avatar

And yet, a lot of Iranians, possibly not so much the younger generations now, would prefer to return to their original name of Persia. One of those little weird moments in life.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

👏👏👏 Thank you.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Because I have always been a person who cares, I used to feel really bad about myself for feeling differently when Israeli's get killed. I am going back a few decades here, long before the Internet, when I first discovered about what was happening in Palestine and you could only find small snippets tucked away in a daily paper. My lunch break at work was spent in the library going through all the daily newspapers to see what was really happening in the world, or as much as I could find.

When it came to Israel and I began wondering if my humanity had taken a long hike, I found the easiest way to look at it all was to remember what became my first rule.

All Israeli's have to serve in the military, both male and female, so they have at some point attacked the Palestinians, people of Lebanon, Syria etc; purely out of hatred and greed for more land. When they leave the army and get an ordinary job, they all remain in the military reserve until in their forties. As for the very few who retire to Israel and haven't been in the military, sorry but if you choose to enjoy living on stolen land, mixing with all those feral people (apologies to feral finster, this doesn't include furry four paws) then are as guilty by association. You, not I or anyone else who knows your evil, chose to put your children in danger by having them there, if you Israeli's had an iota of care for anyone you wouldn't have done that.

ennui_mcgee's avatar

I have accepted that if humanity is an organism, anyone with loyalty to Israel is a cancer. I'm not going to mourn the cancer cells that are removed by the surgeon's scalpel. I'm going to celebrate the lease on life we all get as a result.

Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Veronica B , Thank you for echoing my sentiments exactly.

Veronica Baker's avatar

Nice to meet people who share the same sentiments, some days they feel rare on the ground.