In all this unspeakable horror, Israel is sewing its own doom. The world despises Israel now. 100's of millions of us will never want anything to do with any Israeli product or company or even, individuals. Because western politicians are sheltering them, we can't do what we would like to do, but for many of us, Israel is not a people we want anything to do with. Shun then, scorn them, turn from them. Give them not a dollar, nor a thought nor a kind word. I don't care if they call it antisemitic, I wear that word like a badge of honour now.
Surveys show that three quarters of the Jewish Israeli public think the IDF isn't using **ENOUGH** force, and 68% don't think that **ANY** aid should be allowed into Gaza. It's a sick, sick, society.
Yes! Thank you. Perfectly stated. I soooo hope you're right that Israel is doomed....that most of the world now sees it as it is: renegade, unhinged, TERRORIST, psychotic hate-filled. It has become (always been?) that which it claims to hate. Turns out, they're the "human animals." Along with you, I wear the "antisemitic badge" ... and consider it an honor.
I reckon wearing the anti semitic badge is an over reaction and a damaging for millions of innocent Jews. Instead wear the anti Zionist badge flashing bright colours to attract the attention of al who are near
I think it's important to differentiate between Zionists and Jews or Zionism and Judaism. They are completely different things. It's only through decades of Zionist propaganda that the conflation of the two even enters our minds. Just about every author, journalist, academic, that has educated me about this abomination called Israel has been Jewish themselves.
I really hope you're right. All those children murdered by the Israelis - never given the chance to live because of this obscene, barbarous savagery. I hope the world never forgets this greatest of all evils. :(
Today’s WaPo board opines on how to get Israel and the US on the same page, as if they haven’t been “doing it on the paper” for 75 years. Why does the Ed Board want them on the same page? No surprise though. Here’s a comment on the relentless pro-Israel propaganda.
“Israel continues to take money from the U.S. to commit crimes and to hoard. It does so , having per cap foreign reserves greater than China, Germany, France, the US, and Canada combined. Its reserves are even greater than Croesus-rich Norway. Yet cadging, begging and finagling.
Its spy, Jonathan Pollard was the most damaging spy in US history.
It sank the USS Liberty, perhaps knowingly.
The US spent $8 trillion on the war on terror. Ignited by Israel.
This comes to more than 3x the personal worth of the median American.
It lies about nearly everything.
It has ruined US cred at the UN and created a billion enemies, squandering invaluable US goodwill earned from decades of genuine foreign aid.
The choices were those of people like those on the Ed Board. But not of the taxpayers.
They knew exactly what they did as the attacked the USS Liberty for HOURS in waves of attack after surveilling the ship with close fly-byes with military aircraft beforehand, with the American flag flying prominently on the ship. In obedience to the Zionist lobby, the US govt buried the truth of what happened, betraying the American sailors murdered, wounded and traumatized by the Israelis.
While I agree with your sentiments about Israel, I wanted to point out a few things:
(1) "It has ruined US cred at the UN" -> US is far from having good cred in the UN even before this Genocide. Only people that are unaware of world events/history and the machinations of the US Empire would think that the US has any cred in the UN (or anywhere else).
(3) "The US spent $8 trillion on the war on terror. Ignited by Israel." -> It's easy to place all the blame on Israel. But a careful and thorough analysis of history shows that it is US FOREIGN POLICY and MAINTENANCE OF GLOBAL HEGEMONY that is behind the activities of the US globally. Israel serves the interests of US FOREIGN POLICY and GLOBAL OLIGARCHS and the Power Elite (for the most part and in most cases with few exceptions like the USS Liberty bombing for example). Also, the $8 trillion that the US spent is calculated as an increase in GDP (military spending, kickbacks to MIC and power elite, military jobs, etc.). In reality, most military/war spending (and the MIC) are ways to enrich the few (power elite) at the expense of the many (plebians) and if it wasn't the WAR ON TERROR, it would be something else that the US establishment would spend the money on (neoliberal capitalism).
Ask yourself this hypothetical question: What if Israel never existed? Do you think the US and Western powers would leave the middle-east region alone and not want to control the resources (oil, gas, trade routes, etc.) in the Middle-East? The Middle-East has always been a colonial and neo-colonial project - regardless of whether Israel exists or not - it was so before the creation of Israel. And if Israel were to cease to exist (one can only hope), powerful and imperialist nations would continue to meddle in the affairs of the region (whether they be US, UK, France, Russia, China, or whichever country attempts at being a global superpower). Now, if the resources of the region were to deplete and disappear, the dynamics and interests of other nations would completely change.
Foreign policy has been sick for 50 yrs plus. But. I date back much further when there was an element of decency involved. The discovery that the CIA was using the Peace Corps as a front killed any pretence.
Agree re calculations, an amount 3x the net worth of a median American. All fomented by the Weasels of the Middle East.
That event was the day that with Johnson as President, the sadistic Zionists knew that could control America. The year was 1967 and they have never looked backwards since.
Yes. The beginning of what we are seeing now. Thanks Johnson, a weak man with few since then any better and none since then with the guts to bring Israel to heel
The only President who stood up to the Jews in the form of Israelis with their insidious and openly operated spy operation on the US mainland through AIPAC, was JFK and they cut short his objections to their nuclear plans, now with up to 400 warheads, primed and ready to go, "one for every capital" as they have said.
They are the world's enemy and the sooner people realise this fact the better.
Be assured Russian_bot, it was' knowingly' with unmarked aircraft, torpedos and heavy canon fire.
Johnson called back the aircraft which had taken off to assist the ship and all the restrictions placed on the crew from then on were of his doing.
You have a well organised USS Liberty group in the US and they have never received a decent hearing, nor an apology from the enemy of all the world,....Israel.
The United States, especially, and its servile vassals also deserve to be shunned, scorned, sanctioned and relegated to the very outer margins of civilization (if it exists anywhere on this earth). Along with Netanyahu, Gallant, Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, Herzog, et al, Biden, Blinken, Austin, Sunak, Scholz and the whole Western Rat Pack should be prosecuted in a Nuremberg-style trial at the ICC, convicted and sentenced so that they may take their rightful place in history right beside the 12 leading Nazi war criminals who were sentenced to death!
With you 100% I unearthed a book in my library yesterday. Title Interview with History. Author Oriana Fallaci. 1976. I lived in the ME as a young woman at this time and never truly understood the plight of the Palestinians although they were my colleagues. I do now as I read it again in this open media environment. Thanks!
"Israeli parliament passes law paving the way for Al Jazeera closure
"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promises to use the law to shutter local operations of Al Jazeera." They don't want you see how despicable they are in their slaughter of their prey. That's how they see them, always have seen them, and why they put them in a big cage.
You can make that point over and over and over again, but it isn't going to register.
I know this, if some MAGA nuts decide they're going to burn down the local synagogue, I'm not going to try to stop them. Yes, please publish Pastor Niemöller's poem. He's absolutely right.
But trying to defend Jews today will result in me defending Zionists. Not going to do that.
The Jews have to decide if they are going to let the Jewish Mafia and the Zionists define who they are. I can't help them if they won't help themselves.
(In penance, I just sent a contribution to the Grayzone. Max and Aaron are doing the best they can.)
The genocidal German Nazis were also racist against Jews - like you and your friends here. And you, like the Nazis, righteously believe you stand on some moral high ground. Guess what? You don't.
Never claimed to stand on any moral high-ground. I'm not claiming to be righteous. I've admitted to being scared. There's no "moral high ground" here.
I'm saying I don't "have a dog in this fight". I'm not taking sides. It is a fight between Zionist Jews and other Jews. I don't know how to tell which side any give Jew is on. (Save for Blumenthal et. al.)
Were it my decision, there would be no Israel the day after tomorrow. How anti-semitic is that?
I notice you don't say anything in your comment about being anti-Zionist, therefore am I correct to say you support the Palestinian genocide?
Must be since you only say "not all Jews are Zionists". What does that mean exactly? Are you going quibble about the definition of a Zionist?
IOW, you only care when it is Jews being murdered.
Yes, I'm being ultra-extreme in my response to you since you've decided to ignore my history of posts here and refuse to consider what I actually said but instead accuse me of crimes I haven't committed.
What a bunch of "lawyer" talk to defend overt racism against Jews. Not all "Jews" are Zionists or believe in the ethnostate of Israel. A kindergartener could understand this obvious fact.
Jews are not a race. It is not possible to be racist against Jews. However while Jews don't necessarily fall into a race, they do seem to be drawn to an ideology. Zionism. An abhorrent, hate-filled ideology in which the adherents place themselves at the top of their pecking order. We don't hate Jews, we have no reason for that. But we absolutely are disgusted by Zionism and particularly now when their true colours have been revealed for all to see. So, please don't conflate our disgust and abhorrence for Zionism with any feelings for Jewry or the Jewish faith. We hate Zionists... whether Jewish or Christian. Where it seems that Israel is an archetype Zionist state, we will oppose them to the last breath.
1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
You're a prick, thats evident here. Jews are not an ethnic group, but if they are predominantly anything, its European white. Just like the Polish guy that runs Israel. Not a semite.
As for libraries, I've likely been in them well before you were born you arrogant snot.
I’m not voting for Trump; my vote goes to Jill Stein.
That being said, I detest Genocide Joe so intensely that I hope The Donald wipes the floor with him.
Sick to fucking death at hearing how horrible life will be if we don’t re-elect the Genocide Monster and Trump is victorious. Really? How horrible? Will our habitats be largely bombed out? Will our hospitals and schools cease to exist? Will parents be gathering up their children’s body parts to bury them? Will we not have potable water? Will we literally be starving to DEATH?
Nah, didn’t think so. If you want to “reward” Genocide Joe for what he’s done, go ahead and vote for him. And PISS on ya.
well, you probably picked a bad example. i think maga-nuts also fully support the genocide. they'd only burn clearly anti-zionist, pro-palestine synagogues.
Not sure I get it either Fran. *shrug* I'm learning not to spend too much of my energy on this kind of stuff. Not worth my time - the little that's left in my old age.
Yeah ignore it. I think people make it too much of a black and white issue and it's a very complex one, and someone like Netanyahu has always been an extremist. When he came into office in 2022 with his very extreme right wing party people knew there was going to be nothing but trouble since he ran basically claiming the West Bank was theirs, and was going to extend the settlements and make life a living a hell for the Palestinians. That's one of the reasons Hamas gave for implementing their attack. I know your position so I just didn't see why all that to do.
I would like to think that most of the Jewish population is against the Israel's terrorist government. I would love to see the Jewish population denounce Zionism.
Until the US people realise what they have as candidates in both parties and make a radical change across the country to eliminate the criminal practice of electoral funding, classify most of the Jews living in America as suspect until proven not so, closed down the spying operations of AIPAC and the neocon brigades and remove all senior pubic servant and diplomatic positions from the hands of Jews of any description, isolate the banking system from the manipulations of US Jewish operators, then nothing will change in the USA.
86% of politicians under their control? How do you overcome that aberration and maintain objectives that do not include trillions of your money and weapons making the 9 million people in Palestine, now called Israel, control 330 million people in a once decent America.
Exactly what I was thinking earlier today. The next time someone tells me “because Oct 7.” I’m going to say, “I’ll treat you like an intelligent human capable of consuming and assessing facts; and I expect the same in return.” If I hear Oct 7 again, I know I’m talking to a moron or robot and I don’t engage with either. It’s beneath my intelligence.
I agree, but the argument goes backwards in time just as well: Oct 6th, 5th, 4th, ...
As Prof. Rashid Khalidi wrote in The New Yorker, "What is going on in Palestine today is not really about Hamas. It is not about rockets [or] 'human shields' or terrorism or tunnels....It is about [continuing] an unswerving decades-long Israeli policy…"
That was quote was printed in the July 2014 issue of The New Yorker. Yup, nearly a decade ago.
This is pure evil on repeat. Like a horrible song that keeps getting louder with each replay, drumming into our skulls a sadistic soundtrack of drones and bombs and children's screams.
I have to admit, I never thought we would reach this level of mass murder. :( Some people predicted it - I guess I just couldn't imagine it would reach this level - and the US directly supporting it. Even Reagan had enough wits about him to stop more mass slaughter.
But the last few decades have seen a descent into extremism and more militarism in the world, sponsored primarily by the now fully corrupted US government, captured by the MIC and Wallstreet. I'd like to remain optimistic about the future, but it's hard to do so. Meanwhile, the slaughter and children's screams continue. :(
Thank you Caitlyn. Your factual reporting and your insights are much appreciated. I hope the world learns from you, and a few others, that the crimes our world leaders are committing can never be forgiven and, at the very least, must be indelibly written into history.
add Ecocide to the list of Israeli barbaric Genocidal crimes - watch this incredible video, it will enrage a much as anything I've seen: Intentionally destroyed farmland, olive trees and greenhouses that provide the food supply. Israel can't possibly claim there are Hamas tunnels under farms! The only objective is genocide.
Watching this video, I had two thoughts. The first was deep admiration for Gazans -- that their life in a concentration camp didn't stop them from turning desert into cultivated land enabling them to self-sufficiently feed themselves despite the unyielding pressures of life under occupation by a brutal sadistic overlord. The second was cultural genocide. Of course, the destruction of universities, mosques, churches are obviously intended to ablate Gazan/Palestinian culture, but agriCULTURE -- the local techniques, sacred olive groves, folklore etc. stored in the culture to achieve what they had in this challenging environment is part of that overall cultural storehouse of knowledge, and bloody Israel wants to wipe all of it away without a trace, to leave no evidence that these subhumans ever lived on that strip of land.
The imagery of Israeli destruction is what is making people rise up against this despicable, brutal genocide that has such a sense of intimacy when they slaughter the Palestinians people, including their children. When they ruin their horticulture. When they kill them in hospitals, leave their bodies under rubble, or in open fields. dig up their graveyards, attack them as they rush toward food to stave off starvation. It's as if they want to experience their annihilation on an intimate level. Israeli's have a slave master mentality in carrying out this genocide, and I guess it's because they always felt they owned them.
Yeah I'm with you. I'm tired of the propaganda garbage that Russia - just "out-of-the-blue" decided to invade Ukraine because Putin is "evil". Anyone who believes that - no longer is worth listening or responding to (at all).
Meanwhile, in the sos category, the ICJ has ordered Israel to ensure “unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance,” but as usual, the court has no way to enforce the order. And somewhere out there in the cosmos, Kvingau an extraterrestrial observer remotely monitoring earth turns to her observing partner Squalung and sends the thought form: "why are we wasting our time with this feckless species?"
And a confidential report delivered to the UK government by its own lawyers indicates that Israel has "broken international humanitarian law" (such bloodless words!). Needless to say, H.M. Government did not make this report public.
Again, the USA is now the direct and proximate cause of the slaughter/genocide in Gaza. Without US it ends immediately. US sends new weapons every 36 hours. How do those facts not equate to US being 100% responsible at this stage of the catastrophe?
Well said, Caitlin. I’d like to add the destruction of institutes of learning…not to mention the very homes these people resided in.
Every goddamned thing the IsraHellis do is calculated to bring about the decimation of the Gazan people (and in the West Bank as well.)
The first image I saw on my phone this morning was a beautiful three-year-old boy named Mohammed. The caption read “starved to death by Israelis and Americans.”
My blood pressure went up until it spilled over into tears. I feel helpless and verging on suicidal. If I could find eleven other people to shoot themselves along with me on the White House steps I would do it. I think a dozen people might make an impact…or would it?
I share your sentiment.. I often feel knots in my stomach by what is happening. The murder and lying is worthy of Pol Pot and Hitler, yet we are supposed to sip our lattes and tune into Netflix as if all is well…
You don't have to keep on saying this. We know. We know that the Israel terrorist machine isn't equal to the general Jewish population, despite what the so-called news media is pushing us to believe.
My point is indeed that! There are Zionist Jews and there are non-Zionist Jews across the spectrum. I really would appreciate it if the non-Zionist Jews would get into super-police mode and find and deliver the Zionist Jews into our joint hands for trial but please no capital punishment. Punish, but don't sink to their level. Zionists are extremely sick & dangerous people and must be attended to.
Why is it that you think that the "burden of delivering the Zionist Jews" is the sole responsibility of the non-Zionist Jews? According to that logic, every white Christian should be solely responsible for dealing with "white christian supremacy/nationalism", or every Muslim should be solely responsible for the depraved acts of some in the Islamic community, etc. you see where I'm going with this.
This is a collective human responsibility and duty - one that is actively being abrogated and sabotaged by Western nations (for the most part).
The burden is without any doubt whatsoever now shared between us all at street level. The nooks and crannies of the tribe are far more easily explored by members of the tribe who have more access to any deep megalomania secrets and other nasty goings on there may be. I call it working together to urgently remove what is essentially a cancerous supremacist philosophy/ideology called Zionism and dis-empower its lunatic adherents.
Are you also for the Zionist non-Jews to be delivered into "our joint hands" by the non-Zionist non-Jews? And are you of the latter ones and what are you doing in that regard?
The hands that I offer are those of friendship and solidarity towards equals who abhor genocide as much as I do. There's work to be done and we must organise. Zionism must be stopped and Zionists, both Jewish and non-Jewish, must be arrested & removed from power.
Come, come. I am a human being and I belong to no race but the human race. I'm talking 'tribe' here. A social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader.
Per your claim there's no race, or at least in your case since you're a standout of some sort (British, aren't you?). For the rest of us if no race but a tribe for sure. So, if you can replace "race" in my original comment with a "tribe" as you put it, and take yourself out of consideration (as you're God, clearly), would it not still stand? Be applicable to non-Jews as well?
I would never, knowingly, have an Israeli under my roof or break bread with one, nor agree to be in a room with one of them. The numbers are quite clear: the vast majority of the population of Israel wants every Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank/ East Jerusalem killed. No,after all this they are never to be trusted, never to regarded as anything but a shameless liars who act in bad faith to further their agenda and interests. The Israeli genocide of 2023-2024, has been an eye opening event for 100s of millions of people and what we must do is come together now, in a concerted manner, and pressure our governments to rein this mad dog in.
As for the United States: Sec’y of State Blinken is Jewish. How can he be acting in good faith to help the Palestinians? And at the level of Biden’s cabinet, fully 19 employees hold dual US-Israeli citizenship, too many people, too close to the center of power for my liking.
"The Biden administration in recent days quietly authorized the transfer of billions of dollars in bombs and fighter jets to Israel despite Washington’s concerns about an anticipated military offensive in southern Gaza that could threaten the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians.
The new arms packages include more than 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs, according to Pentagon and State Department officials familiar with the matter. The 2,000-pound bombs have been linked to previous mass-casualty events throughout Israel’s military campaign in Gaza. These officials, like some others, spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because recent authorizations have not been disclosed publicly."
In case anyone is stupid enough to believe that anyone in the US government is not enthusiastically fine with genocide. Or thinks that, for example, "standing with Bernie" about the atrocities in Gaza means anything but another request for money and votes. Rhetoric no long counts. The "Bernies" will still endorse Biden/Harris/whatever nasty candidate.
The Bernie ship sailed a long time ago (for me). His judgement and his unwavering support of the democratic party and Genocide Joe - makes him untrustworthy. Sanders can do the talk really well, but when it comes to doing the walk - he always comes up with some kind of excuse - to not show up.
I do snicker at the "progressive" thing now - all that means is that members of Congress have introduced or endorsed bills that we all know will never get to the floor, much less passed.
I can barely believe it myself. Considering all the outcries worldwide and (lame) legal efforts, to send those bombs is just truly horrific. This is in-your-face murder. IMO.
Not many people mention this but the 'pier' which I understand will be built by the US military is going to be fascinating to watch. When the first US soldiers killed or attacked by the IDF the wallowing and wailing will be huge. It will not be Hamas that attacks but you better get ready for the propaganda machine to go all out against them.
This has to be the MOST stupid idea and will blow Biden out of the water.
In all this unspeakable horror, Israel is sewing its own doom. The world despises Israel now. 100's of millions of us will never want anything to do with any Israeli product or company or even, individuals. Because western politicians are sheltering them, we can't do what we would like to do, but for many of us, Israel is not a people we want anything to do with. Shun then, scorn them, turn from them. Give them not a dollar, nor a thought nor a kind word. I don't care if they call it antisemitic, I wear that word like a badge of honour now.
Surveys show that three quarters of the Jewish Israeli public think the IDF isn't using **ENOUGH** force, and 68% don't think that **ANY** aid should be allowed into Gaza. It's a sick, sick, society.
Right on! Brian. See my take on it somewhere in this list
Yes! Thank you. Perfectly stated. I soooo hope you're right that Israel is doomed....that most of the world now sees it as it is: renegade, unhinged, TERRORIST, psychotic hate-filled. It has become (always been?) that which it claims to hate. Turns out, they're the "human animals." Along with you, I wear the "antisemitic badge" ... and consider it an honor.
I reckon wearing the anti semitic badge is an over reaction and a damaging for millions of innocent Jews. Instead wear the anti Zionist badge flashing bright colours to attract the attention of al who are near
I think it's important to differentiate between Zionists and Jews or Zionism and Judaism. They are completely different things. It's only through decades of Zionist propaganda that the conflation of the two even enters our minds. Just about every author, journalist, academic, that has educated me about this abomination called Israel has been Jewish themselves.
I really hope you're right. All those children murdered by the Israelis - never given the chance to live because of this obscene, barbarous savagery. I hope the world never forgets this greatest of all evils. :(
Me Too
I share that sentiment, Michael..
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I'm Spartacus.
I’m a Hout’hi. And I got the Kalashnikov to prove it 😁
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Good one! I'm Pokemon. No, Libertine! Wait, Odysseus!
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Today’s WaPo board opines on how to get Israel and the US on the same page, as if they haven’t been “doing it on the paper” for 75 years. Why does the Ed Board want them on the same page? No surprise though. Here’s a comment on the relentless pro-Israel propaganda.
“Israel continues to take money from the U.S. to commit crimes and to hoard. It does so , having per cap foreign reserves greater than China, Germany, France, the US, and Canada combined. Its reserves are even greater than Croesus-rich Norway. Yet cadging, begging and finagling.
Its spy, Jonathan Pollard was the most damaging spy in US history.
It sank the USS Liberty, perhaps knowingly.
The US spent $8 trillion on the war on terror. Ignited by Israel.
This comes to more than 3x the personal worth of the median American.
It lies about nearly everything.
It has ruined US cred at the UN and created a billion enemies, squandering invaluable US goodwill earned from decades of genuine foreign aid.
The choices were those of people like those on the Ed Board. But not of the taxpayers.
This serial outrage has to stop.”
They knew exactly what they did as the attacked the USS Liberty for HOURS in waves of attack after surveilling the ship with close fly-byes with military aircraft beforehand, with the American flag flying prominently on the ship. In obedience to the Zionist lobby, the US govt buried the truth of what happened, betraying the American sailors murdered, wounded and traumatized by the Israelis.
While I agree with your sentiments about Israel, I wanted to point out a few things:
(1) "It has ruined US cred at the UN" -> US is far from having good cred in the UN even before this Genocide. Only people that are unaware of world events/history and the machinations of the US Empire would think that the US has any cred in the UN (or anywhere else).
(2) "squandering invaluable US goodwill earned from decades of genuine foreign aid" -> This goodwill from US foreign aid idea is an illusion and often a scam (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/02/as-a-system-foreign-aid-is-a-fraud-and-does-nothing-for-inequality), (https://harvardpolitics.com/debunking-myths-foreign-aid/), Friendly Fire: How Foreign Aid Hurts Development (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q3zWv0Evw), (https://medium.com/elephantsintheroom/40-the-illusion-of-us-and-british-government-aid-54066673c434), etc.
(3) "The US spent $8 trillion on the war on terror. Ignited by Israel." -> It's easy to place all the blame on Israel. But a careful and thorough analysis of history shows that it is US FOREIGN POLICY and MAINTENANCE OF GLOBAL HEGEMONY that is behind the activities of the US globally. Israel serves the interests of US FOREIGN POLICY and GLOBAL OLIGARCHS and the Power Elite (for the most part and in most cases with few exceptions like the USS Liberty bombing for example). Also, the $8 trillion that the US spent is calculated as an increase in GDP (military spending, kickbacks to MIC and power elite, military jobs, etc.). In reality, most military/war spending (and the MIC) are ways to enrich the few (power elite) at the expense of the many (plebians) and if it wasn't the WAR ON TERROR, it would be something else that the US establishment would spend the money on (neoliberal capitalism).
Ask yourself this hypothetical question: What if Israel never existed? Do you think the US and Western powers would leave the middle-east region alone and not want to control the resources (oil, gas, trade routes, etc.) in the Middle-East? The Middle-East has always been a colonial and neo-colonial project - regardless of whether Israel exists or not - it was so before the creation of Israel. And if Israel were to cease to exist (one can only hope), powerful and imperialist nations would continue to meddle in the affairs of the region (whether they be US, UK, France, Russia, China, or whichever country attempts at being a global superpower). Now, if the resources of the region were to deplete and disappear, the dynamics and interests of other nations would completely change.
Couldn’t agree more with all your points above. Israel is truly evil but it’s a creation and a tool of western empire.
Hi Chang,
I was in no way dating the UN problem to Oct 7.
Foreign policy has been sick for 50 yrs plus. But. I date back much further when there was an element of decency involved. The discovery that the CIA was using the Peace Corps as a front killed any pretence.
Agree re calculations, an amount 3x the net worth of a median American. All fomented by the Weasels of the Middle East.
The Liberty didn't sink. Lots of dead US sailors though.
John.
That event was the day that with Johnson as President, the sadistic Zionists knew that could control America. The year was 1967 and they have never looked backwards since.
Yes. The beginning of what we are seeing now. Thanks Johnson, a weak man with few since then any better and none since then with the guts to bring Israel to heel
The only President who stood up to the Jews in the form of Israelis with their insidious and openly operated spy operation on the US mainland through AIPAC, was JFK and they cut short his objections to their nuclear plans, now with up to 400 warheads, primed and ready to go, "one for every capital" as they have said.
They are the world's enemy and the sooner people realise this fact the better.
That’s even worse. But why does no one react to the financial outrage? Do they think it’s ok? Or a lie?
George:
The sailors on the Liberty were ordered by the Amerikkkan regime to NEVER speak of the incident publicly, or face threats to they and their families.
"It sank the USS Liberty, perhaps knowingly."
Resources:
- USS Liberty Incident documentary: https://youtu.be/ODtKvrAcD-A
- Jocko Podcast 327: Attack on The USS Liberty w/ Phil Tourney, Larry Bowen, Joe Meadors.: https://youtu.be/JITBsNMcN8A
Be assured Russian_bot, it was' knowingly' with unmarked aircraft, torpedos and heavy canon fire.
Johnson called back the aircraft which had taken off to assist the ship and all the restrictions placed on the crew from then on were of his doing.
You have a well organised USS Liberty group in the US and they have never received a decent hearing, nor an apology from the enemy of all the world,....Israel.
"it was' knowingly'" - that's what the people who were there - sailors - as well as others familiar say, per the videos I provided.
Are you saying I was suggesting otherwise?
Facts.
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/shalom
The United States, especially, and its servile vassals also deserve to be shunned, scorned, sanctioned and relegated to the very outer margins of civilization (if it exists anywhere on this earth). Along with Netanyahu, Gallant, Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, Herzog, et al, Biden, Blinken, Austin, Sunak, Scholz and the whole Western Rat Pack should be prosecuted in a Nuremberg-style trial at the ICC, convicted and sentenced so that they may take their rightful place in history right beside the 12 leading Nazi war criminals who were sentenced to death!
We hate Biden and his evil cohorts. We don't know how to stop him. He is an evil monster.
The United States (the government) needs to leave the Dark Ages (for good) and join the world in despising Israel.
With you 100% I unearthed a book in my library yesterday. Title Interview with History. Author Oriana Fallaci. 1976. I lived in the ME as a young woman at this time and never truly understood the plight of the Palestinians although they were my colleagues. I do now as I read it again in this open media environment. Thanks!
yes, I remember her. At the time, I didn't understand her commitment for being an advocate in reporting, I understand it much better now.
"Israeli parliament passes law paving the way for Al Jazeera closure
"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promises to use the law to shutter local operations of Al Jazeera." They don't want you see how despicable they are in their slaughter of their prey. That's how they see them, always have seen them, and why they put them in a big cage.
Well put, well said, well written, well done my friend. You are my role model in this.
When “God’s chosen people” do the work of Satan, it is obvious who the truly evil are.
Not all Jews are supporting the genocide or support a Zionist state.
Guess what? Many people no longer care.
You can make that point over and over and over again, but it isn't going to register.
I know this, if some MAGA nuts decide they're going to burn down the local synagogue, I'm not going to try to stop them. Yes, please publish Pastor Niemöller's poem. He's absolutely right.
But trying to defend Jews today will result in me defending Zionists. Not going to do that.
The Jews have to decide if they are going to let the Jewish Mafia and the Zionists define who they are. I can't help them if they won't help themselves.
(In penance, I just sent a contribution to the Grayzone. Max and Aaron are doing the best they can.)
The genocidal German Nazis were also racist against Jews - like you and your friends here. And you, like the Nazis, righteously believe you stand on some moral high ground. Guess what? You don't.
Never claimed to stand on any moral high-ground. I'm not claiming to be righteous. I've admitted to being scared. There's no "moral high ground" here.
I'm saying I don't "have a dog in this fight". I'm not taking sides. It is a fight between Zionist Jews and other Jews. I don't know how to tell which side any give Jew is on. (Save for Blumenthal et. al.)
Were it my decision, there would be no Israel the day after tomorrow. How anti-semitic is that?
I notice you don't say anything in your comment about being anti-Zionist, therefore am I correct to say you support the Palestinian genocide?
Must be since you only say "not all Jews are Zionists". What does that mean exactly? Are you going quibble about the definition of a Zionist?
IOW, you only care when it is Jews being murdered.
Yes, I'm being ultra-extreme in my response to you since you've decided to ignore my history of posts here and refuse to consider what I actually said but instead accuse me of crimes I haven't committed.
What a bunch of "lawyer" talk to defend overt racism against Jews. Not all "Jews" are Zionists or believe in the ethnostate of Israel. A kindergartener could understand this obvious fact.
So you DO support the genocide of the Palestinians.
I sent money to the Grayzone, did you? Or you think Blumenthal is a self-hating Jew.
Take a few minutes to consider your reply. You aren't doing very well here.
Jews are not a race. It is not possible to be racist against Jews. However while Jews don't necessarily fall into a race, they do seem to be drawn to an ideology. Zionism. An abhorrent, hate-filled ideology in which the adherents place themselves at the top of their pecking order. We don't hate Jews, we have no reason for that. But we absolutely are disgusted by Zionism and particularly now when their true colours have been revealed for all to see. So, please don't conflate our disgust and abhorrence for Zionism with any feelings for Jewry or the Jewish faith. We hate Zionists... whether Jewish or Christian. Where it seems that Israel is an archetype Zionist state, we will oppose them to the last breath.
Racism, Definition:
1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Learn something dude. Go to a library.
You're a prick, thats evident here. Jews are not an ethnic group, but if they are predominantly anything, its European white. Just like the Polish guy that runs Israel. Not a semite.
As for libraries, I've likely been in them well before you were born you arrogant snot.
Hi Mothman
I’m not voting for Trump; my vote goes to Jill Stein.
That being said, I detest Genocide Joe so intensely that I hope The Donald wipes the floor with him.
Sick to fucking death at hearing how horrible life will be if we don’t re-elect the Genocide Monster and Trump is victorious. Really? How horrible? Will our habitats be largely bombed out? Will our hospitals and schools cease to exist? Will parents be gathering up their children’s body parts to bury them? Will we not have potable water? Will we literally be starving to DEATH?
Nah, didn’t think so. If you want to “reward” Genocide Joe for what he’s done, go ahead and vote for him. And PISS on ya.
Huh?
well, you probably picked a bad example. i think maga-nuts also fully support the genocide. they'd only burn clearly anti-zionist, pro-palestine synagogues.
You might be right. I kind of don't think they're that nuanced but... maybe.
Not all Jews make the claim to be God’s chosen people who were gifted Palestine.
Not all "God's chosen people" believe they were gifted Palestine. Your reasoning is flawed.
ps: Atheists like to think they have the corner on "the truth", much like any other religious believer. Nothing new to see here.
I was not referring to Jews at all, I was referring to Zionists.
Baloney.
Perhaps you’re aware who he is:
https://youtu.be/2FIUP3P5O1I?si=zBmtq38WVWQ346hE
Jamenta what is this back and forth argument about. I know your perspective, so I don't get it.
Not sure I get it either Fran. *shrug* I'm learning not to spend too much of my energy on this kind of stuff. Not worth my time - the little that's left in my old age.
Yeah ignore it. I think people make it too much of a black and white issue and it's a very complex one, and someone like Netanyahu has always been an extremist. When he came into office in 2022 with his very extreme right wing party people knew there was going to be nothing but trouble since he ran basically claiming the West Bank was theirs, and was going to extend the settlements and make life a living a hell for the Palestinians. That's one of the reasons Hamas gave for implementing their attack. I know your position so I just didn't see why all that to do.
I would like to think that most of the Jewish population is against the Israel's terrorist government. I would love to see the Jewish population denounce Zionism.
I think the majority still support the Zionists.
Dr. Who
Until the US people realise what they have as candidates in both parties and make a radical change across the country to eliminate the criminal practice of electoral funding, classify most of the Jews living in America as suspect until proven not so, closed down the spying operations of AIPAC and the neocon brigades and remove all senior pubic servant and diplomatic positions from the hands of Jews of any description, isolate the banking system from the manipulations of US Jewish operators, then nothing will change in the USA.
86% of politicians under their control? How do you overcome that aberration and maintain objectives that do not include trillions of your money and weapons making the 9 million people in Palestine, now called Israel, control 330 million people in a once decent America.
It is something of a sick joke in 2024.
Round and round we go................the wanton destruction at the hands of the IDF and Biden.
Everyone who cares: Look up Israeli Company's. Do NOT buy their products.
Protest outside US arms manufacturers and keep writing like Caitlin does.
Forget about yourself and your lives and continue remembering this genocide.
Gaza is Palestinian and we should not allow it to be taken from them.
Exactly what I was thinking earlier today. The next time someone tells me “because Oct 7.” I’m going to say, “I’ll treat you like an intelligent human capable of consuming and assessing facts; and I expect the same in return.” If I hear Oct 7 again, I know I’m talking to a moron or robot and I don’t engage with either. It’s beneath my intelligence.
The best reply I've heard to the "what about Oct 7" has been: What about Oct 8? What about Oct 9? What about Oct 10 etc.
Committing a greater atrocity of mass murder is not justified by Oct 7. Nothing justifies human genocide. Nothing.
I agree, but the argument goes backwards in time just as well: Oct 6th, 5th, 4th, ...
As Prof. Rashid Khalidi wrote in The New Yorker, "What is going on in Palestine today is not really about Hamas. It is not about rockets [or] 'human shields' or terrorism or tunnels....It is about [continuing] an unswerving decades-long Israeli policy…"
That was quote was printed in the July 2014 issue of The New Yorker. Yup, nearly a decade ago.
This is pure evil on repeat. Like a horrible song that keeps getting louder with each replay, drumming into our skulls a sadistic soundtrack of drones and bombs and children's screams.
I have to admit, I never thought we would reach this level of mass murder. :( Some people predicted it - I guess I just couldn't imagine it would reach this level - and the US directly supporting it. Even Reagan had enough wits about him to stop more mass slaughter.
But the last few decades have seen a descent into extremism and more militarism in the world, sponsored primarily by the now fully corrupted US government, captured by the MIC and Wallstreet. I'd like to remain optimistic about the future, but it's hard to do so. Meanwhile, the slaughter and children's screams continue. :(
I try to ask them politely, "Which particular Oct 7th are you talking about? There are more than 70 of them in the history of this conflict.".
that is good reply.
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Thank you Caitlyn. Your factual reporting and your insights are much appreciated. I hope the world learns from you, and a few others, that the crimes our world leaders are committing can never be forgiven and, at the very least, must be indelibly written into history.
add Ecocide to the list of Israeli barbaric Genocidal crimes - watch this incredible video, it will enrage a much as anything I've seen: Intentionally destroyed farmland, olive trees and greenhouses that provide the food supply. Israel can't possibly claim there are Hamas tunnels under farms! The only objective is genocide.
https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/ecocide-in-gaza
Watching this video, I had two thoughts. The first was deep admiration for Gazans -- that their life in a concentration camp didn't stop them from turning desert into cultivated land enabling them to self-sufficiently feed themselves despite the unyielding pressures of life under occupation by a brutal sadistic overlord. The second was cultural genocide. Of course, the destruction of universities, mosques, churches are obviously intended to ablate Gazan/Palestinian culture, but agriCULTURE -- the local techniques, sacred olive groves, folklore etc. stored in the culture to achieve what they had in this challenging environment is part of that overall cultural storehouse of knowledge, and bloody Israel wants to wipe all of it away without a trace, to leave no evidence that these subhumans ever lived on that strip of land.
Yes, and the farms and greenhouses had become a community gathering space, kind of like the farmers markets and community gardens in US.
Greatly appreciate your observation. Hopefully Palestinians are ‘gods chosen people’ and inherit his earth.
The imagery of Israeli destruction is what is making people rise up against this despicable, brutal genocide that has such a sense of intimacy when they slaughter the Palestinians people, including their children. When they ruin their horticulture. When they kill them in hospitals, leave their bodies under rubble, or in open fields. dig up their graveyards, attack them as they rush toward food to stave off starvation. It's as if they want to experience their annihilation on an intimate level. Israeli's have a slave master mentality in carrying out this genocide, and I guess it's because they always felt they owned them.
At this juncture, any of you bitching about Russia can go f$8k yourselves.
Yeah I'm with you. I'm tired of the propaganda garbage that Russia - just "out-of-the-blue" decided to invade Ukraine because Putin is "evil". Anyone who believes that - no longer is worth listening or responding to (at all).
Meanwhile, in the sos category, the ICJ has ordered Israel to ensure “unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance,” but as usual, the court has no way to enforce the order. And somewhere out there in the cosmos, Kvingau an extraterrestrial observer remotely monitoring earth turns to her observing partner Squalung and sends the thought form: "why are we wasting our time with this feckless species?"
Love it!
And a confidential report delivered to the UK government by its own lawyers indicates that Israel has "broken international humanitarian law" (such bloodless words!). Needless to say, H.M. Government did not make this report public.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://news.sky.com/story/amp/senior-tory-mp-says-government-lawyers-believe-israel-has-broken-international-humanitarian-law-but-advice-not-published-13105193&ved=2ahUKEwjLhdqvgqGFAxVaJzQIHVNPC4kQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3GB979t37feSIGPbavdlh0
George Galloway (bless his heart) made sure he told his huge audience about it on MOATS.
That "HM" prefix in various UK's institution names always cracks me up. The sleaziest nation in the world.
Again, the USA is now the direct and proximate cause of the slaughter/genocide in Gaza. Without US it ends immediately. US sends new weapons every 36 hours. How do those facts not equate to US being 100% responsible at this stage of the catastrophe?
Agree. Sickening true. :(
nothing
I wrote this Easter Sunday column about the photo of a dead child at Al Shifah Hospital...
American Crucifixion -- Gaze upon her, fellow Americans. Gaze upon what we have done. What we are doing...
https://mark192.substack.com/p/american-crucifixion
Well said, Caitlin. I’d like to add the destruction of institutes of learning…not to mention the very homes these people resided in.
Every goddamned thing the IsraHellis do is calculated to bring about the decimation of the Gazan people (and in the West Bank as well.)
The first image I saw on my phone this morning was a beautiful three-year-old boy named Mohammed. The caption read “starved to death by Israelis and Americans.”
My blood pressure went up until it spilled over into tears. I feel helpless and verging on suicidal. If I could find eleven other people to shoot themselves along with me on the White House steps I would do it. I think a dozen people might make an impact…or would it?
I share your sentiment.. I often feel knots in my stomach by what is happening. The murder and lying is worthy of Pol Pot and Hitler, yet we are supposed to sip our lattes and tune into Netflix as if all is well…
Exactly Diana.
I don’t know how anyone can go about their lives as if everything was “normal”. This utter tragedy is consuming me.
Me, too...
yeah, every day feels like an assault.
That’s what happens when one has a conscience, Pretzel 😔
I'm afraid so. It might prove that the majority that can ignore this genocide have zero conscience.
It wouldn't change Biden's unflinching dedication to genocide of the thorn in Izrahell's side: the Palestinians, original owners of all the land.
It's genocide since 70+ years by God's chosen psychopaths, and Greater ISrahell region will be soon the new Palestine.
Just today:
🔴 Benjamin Netanyahu: Whole World Is Against Us | Syriana Analysis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KxWE5NWiSc
Problem reaction solution of psychopaths:
"Whole World Is Against Us" - That's their argument to destroy the whole world! Mark my words. These psychopaths are extremely dangerous. Watch
Eugen Karl Dühring's Final Solution Before Hitler - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXEHv8FM4-w
and read Eugen Karl Dühring's book at archive.org
And this one:
Sunday livestream 31 March 2024 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCo-wGw2COc
Start at 31:00
The whole world is against Netanyahu? GOOD! THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD BE AGAINST HIM!
Not all Jews support Zionism.
You don't have to keep on saying this. We know. We know that the Israel terrorist machine isn't equal to the general Jewish population, despite what the so-called news media is pushing us to believe.
Agreed, but do all Jews fundamentally support & identify with the tribe?
Are all Catholics pedophiles? Are all Atheists Materialist Skeptics? Are all Scientologists Tom Cruise fans?
Like any group of people there is general wide differences of beliefs and disagreements, etc.
Stereotyped racism against one group - is what the Nazis did to the Jews. It's never acceptable - ever.
My point is indeed that! There are Zionist Jews and there are non-Zionist Jews across the spectrum. I really would appreciate it if the non-Zionist Jews would get into super-police mode and find and deliver the Zionist Jews into our joint hands for trial but please no capital punishment. Punish, but don't sink to their level. Zionists are extremely sick & dangerous people and must be attended to.
Why is it that you think that the "burden of delivering the Zionist Jews" is the sole responsibility of the non-Zionist Jews? According to that logic, every white Christian should be solely responsible for dealing with "white christian supremacy/nationalism", or every Muslim should be solely responsible for the depraved acts of some in the Islamic community, etc. you see where I'm going with this.
This is a collective human responsibility and duty - one that is actively being abrogated and sabotaged by Western nations (for the most part).
The burden is without any doubt whatsoever now shared between us all at street level. The nooks and crannies of the tribe are far more easily explored by members of the tribe who have more access to any deep megalomania secrets and other nasty goings on there may be. I call it working together to urgently remove what is essentially a cancerous supremacist philosophy/ideology called Zionism and dis-empower its lunatic adherents.
Are you also for the Zionist non-Jews to be delivered into "our joint hands" by the non-Zionist non-Jews? And are you of the latter ones and what are you doing in that regard?
The hands that I offer are those of friendship and solidarity towards equals who abhor genocide as much as I do. There's work to be done and we must organise. Zionism must be stopped and Zionists, both Jewish and non-Jewish, must be arrested & removed from power.
Generalized stereotypes that all Jews are the same is what needs to be avoided here.
Yes, there are Jews and there are non-Jews. Individuals within the tribe in question will be as varied as you like.
Do all representatives of your race "fundamentally support & identify with the tribe?"
Come, come. I am a human being and I belong to no race but the human race. I'm talking 'tribe' here. A social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader.
Per your claim there's no race, or at least in your case since you're a standout of some sort (British, aren't you?). For the rest of us if no race but a tribe for sure. So, if you can replace "race" in my original comment with a "tribe" as you put it, and take yourself out of consideration (as you're God, clearly), would it not still stand? Be applicable to non-Jews as well?
Easy to tell on this forum with the spelling of certain words but British-born national is what they've told me all my life, sure!
So! Back to tribalism and all that it entails. My question is predominantly one of loyalty to the tribe. Does this help?
I would never, knowingly, have an Israeli under my roof or break bread with one, nor agree to be in a room with one of them. The numbers are quite clear: the vast majority of the population of Israel wants every Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank/ East Jerusalem killed. No,after all this they are never to be trusted, never to regarded as anything but a shameless liars who act in bad faith to further their agenda and interests. The Israeli genocide of 2023-2024, has been an eye opening event for 100s of millions of people and what we must do is come together now, in a concerted manner, and pressure our governments to rein this mad dog in.
As for the United States: Sec’y of State Blinken is Jewish. How can he be acting in good faith to help the Palestinians? And at the level of Biden’s cabinet, fully 19 employees hold dual US-Israeli citizenship, too many people, too close to the center of power for my liking.
I'm still up for impeaching Biden and his cabinet.
Eddie, I wanna see ByeDone at The Hague and transferred to a dungeon.
Or a tall tree and a short rope works for me, too.
Bring back the guillotine I say.
From the Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/29/us-weapons-israel-gaza-war/
"The Biden administration in recent days quietly authorized the transfer of billions of dollars in bombs and fighter jets to Israel despite Washington’s concerns about an anticipated military offensive in southern Gaza that could threaten the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians.
The new arms packages include more than 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs, according to Pentagon and State Department officials familiar with the matter. The 2,000-pound bombs have been linked to previous mass-casualty events throughout Israel’s military campaign in Gaza. These officials, like some others, spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because recent authorizations have not been disclosed publicly."
In case anyone is stupid enough to believe that anyone in the US government is not enthusiastically fine with genocide. Or thinks that, for example, "standing with Bernie" about the atrocities in Gaza means anything but another request for money and votes. Rhetoric no long counts. The "Bernies" will still endorse Biden/Harris/whatever nasty candidate.
The Bernie ship sailed a long time ago (for me). His judgement and his unwavering support of the democratic party and Genocide Joe - makes him untrustworthy. Sanders can do the talk really well, but when it comes to doing the walk - he always comes up with some kind of excuse - to not show up.
I do snicker at the "progressive" thing now - all that means is that members of Congress have introduced or endorsed bills that we all know will never get to the floor, much less passed.
I can barely believe it myself. Considering all the outcries worldwide and (lame) legal efforts, to send those bombs is just truly horrific. This is in-your-face murder. IMO.
There’s no doubt in my mind that Israhell possesses some kiddie-porn video involving Genocide Joe.
Not many people mention this but the 'pier' which I understand will be built by the US military is going to be fascinating to watch. When the first US soldiers killed or attacked by the IDF the wallowing and wailing will be huge. It will not be Hamas that attacks but you better get ready for the propaganda machine to go all out against them.
This has to be the MOST stupid idea and will blow Biden out of the water.
Jenny:
That pier is being built in order to deport Palestinians.
And it will be built with the rubble from bombed-out Palestinian buildings replete with the bones of the dead that lie beneath them.
Yeah......I am sure it is for deportation....just don't want to believe it. Where will they be deported to?