I absolutely did not know Jon Stewart well enough. Thanks for this link. I rarely listen to him and I did not realize that the link I sent was not exactly who he always is.
When you accuse someone of being scum of the earth, you better say why, otherwise you are just someone who bashes other people to make yourself feel better.
Stewart played his part in the mind fuckery of the youth in his time. He is talented I will not take that away from him. He convinced an enormous amount of young impressionable adolescents to follow orders. The slick part is he convinced them that they were smart independent thinkers at the same time.
If you believe this fucking guy (lefty) gives a rat’s ass about the Palestinian people than I have a bridge to sell you. Look listen to him if you like. Listen when he talks about Palestine…..Then WAIT for the “BUT”…..trust me 😉
To follow orders how? where? what are you talking about? I don't know if he gives a rats ass about Palestinians. What I have seen of his comments about what is happening Gaza has mostly been about the duplicity of the USA and that Biden and his cronies have not said or done anything concrete and real about ending the slaughter in Gaza.
And I simply gave you advice; don’t trust Jon Stewart. That being said i don’t care if you do. Knock yourself out. No point in arguing over opinions. Good day.
JS has been part of years of shilling on Comedy Central for the beast. I think it was even called the News which served as a platform to manipulate the young minds millennial generation. Make them believe they were shrewd independent thinkers while Stewart trained them to be sheep.
NOBODY gets that kind of air time unless they serve a purpose. Keep blaming Zionists if it relieves your conscience but it goes deeper than that.
“The best way to control opposition is for us to control it ourselves.” Lenin
Then don't let the Jewish State of Jewish Controlled Raped Murdered Palestine door hit you on the way out.
One of these days, uh?
Enjoy your yellow brick road. Learn what Israel is, T. Learn what that illegal colony is based on, T. It is Judaism as its core, and you can call a Z a Zionist, but Judaism is the foundation of ALL the Zionists' writing, just maybe not the Judaism you wish for in your fairy tale books.
No, it's not. Most Zionists are secular Jews. They are NOT practitioners of Judaism. Just because a Zionist likes to malign all Jews and treat them as monolithic does not make it true. Just because a Zionist proclaims that Israel represents Judaism does not make it true.
It's simple really. Just as one learns to understand and avoid US Empire propaganda, one needs to learn to understand and avoid Zionist propaganda.
Zionist propaganda likes to conflate Zionism with Judaism, Zionism with Jews, etc. Zionism represents Israel, and NOT Jews or Judaism.
there are many Christian evangelist Zionists lately because they think they will rise naked to the side of God once the Jews are in their "promised land". An amusing idea, really if you think about some of those bodies floating upward while we get to watch from down here. Zionism did not come out of the second war. Zionism existed well before, tho I cannot remember exact dates. Jews and Arabs lived side by side, mostly at peace with each other before Zionists came along and started telling Jews they were better etc. You are certainly right that Zionism represents Israel and not Jews.
What? Is this necessary? Duh. His father is a real culprit, Sydney Blumenthal. Max is treated as a self loathing Jew. He's definitely not loved by Jews in Hollywood or Media or Government or Israel.
All Jews in Israel are Zionists, and all money given to Israel is Zionist, but a shit load of Jews consider Isra-Hell mother fucking ship.
For someone who thinks he is so clever, you make some un-intelligent remarks. All Jews in Israel are not Zionists. Sometimes I wonder if you are having some kind of breakdown. Your racism seems to have gotten worse since I read some of your articles in Dissident Voice.
Yesterday there was an excellent article on Consortium News by Lawrence Davidson, "Origins of Israel’s Anti-Arab Racism"
"The anti-Arab racism that pervades modern Israel can be traced back to attitudes of old European imperialism, argued Lawrence Davidson in 2012, in this prescient forecast of today’s Israeli genocide."
It's an excellent article that provides a historical perspective on how Israeli's saw the Arab population when they came to Palestine, ergo the nakba and continue to see them as their inferiors to this day, and why the Israeli population can go along with implementing a genocide. I will never forget and never forgive them for it. One of their generals made the remark the slaughter will continue as if he were talking about animals ready for the kill.
It was a well written and understood article, Fran, as most items in Consortium are. Caitlin is also added to their offerings, almost weekly.
Your other comment “ and continue to see them as their inferiors to this day,”….that Israeli attitude applies to almost everyone, all nationalities and peoples, everywhere, but particularly Arab people.
Their long term hatred of Iranians even more so as they are regarded not as an Arab country, but as Persian , which of course they are and as a result, well respected by all other Arab nations. Perhaps the best regarded state among Arab nations. Goes a long way back.
That's the reason the Jews hate and fear the Iranians who, based on my still reasonable memory for history, have never started a war of any kind in the last 200 years.
No hegemonic ambitions like the British and the USA.
The Jews did not engage in wars since they had no country of their own, but were part of European countries that certainly did and engaged in the colonization of others they perceived as inferior, like Arabs, Africans, Orientals, and often fellow Europeans, etc. While colonial Europe gave way to national identities the Jews of Israel did not, which is evident in their implementation of the NAKBA. in 1948, and that mindset continues to this day. No, Europeans are not carrying out genocides in their own backyard, and referencing those they kill as animals, and in their genocidal removal of the Palestinians let the world see how they perceive them as inferior to themselves which has always been true in Israel's treatment of these people. They are brutal and barbaric and I hope the world will never forget this barbaric genocidal rampage. It is not only the political class who is allowing this to happen but the Israeli's themselves who do not stand in opposition to what their country is doing because they maintain the same mindset.
My reading tells me that the original Jews who lived in Palestine were sometimes Jewish Arabs. They were a minority but lived fairly peaceably side by side with other Arabs. When European Jews started migrating to Palestine, often bringing with them Zionist ideology, things got difficult for everyone.
Actually, I think things got more difficult for the non European Jews who were also living there. There is a lot of pressure on non Zionist Jews to be Zionist. They are called self hating Jews when they don't accept it.
Those that fought in the first WW for the US, and died in it were black and Europeans who came to this country from southern, or eastern Europe. Those who came here from northern, or western Europe were not called into service. The reason for that is the US thought of the first two groups as being on the level with Blacks, or below. I do Ancestry an can account for this reality through my own ancestry.
You're talking about a very small minority and the article is not dealing with Jews who lived in Palestine who did get along with Arabs, but European Jews who adopted a colonial mindset as did other Europeans and saw themselves as superior to others like Arabs.
yes. I was thinking about another article that I read. I am tired right now and need to quit trying to figure out what anyone is talking about. But I do agree with what you are saying; I do understand that it is European Jews who, in the same way as many descended from Europe (or presently from Europe) consider themselves to be the prototype human. I think most of us in America are descended from Europe unless we are indigenous. I was, sadly, born in the UK. But no worse (or better) than being born in America, really.
One thing that has become set in concrete since this genocidal mass murder began and that is clear to anyone who has observed the facts. Independent facts that is. Not MSM.
i've heard they're often worse in a way. sometimes ha'aretz debunks the most over the top propaganda. western msm almost never corrects. (little secret: our corporate overlords are worse still than the average Israeli).
"Exponential unequal acts of violence" You're a fantastic writer that succinctly draws powerful points of fact. Under "normal" times, these FACTS would not be debated. Thank you for your work!
The first examples having been the so called “boots on the ground” first person witnesses of the atrocities committed by Hamas on 10/7.
“Mass rape”, “torture”, “maiming”, “babies put in ovens (”#holocaust trigger!); “women with their pelvis broken after being brutally gang raped”, and then shot in the head, people “burned alive” in their homes, and “incinerated in their cars”; trying to get away from The Nova Music Festival (proof here!…), However, the fire power used to kill this group (?), was something not available to The Hamas shock troops : (apparently when you’re on a hang glider (?), it’s a bit hard to glide in from high in the air carrying the weight of that type of weaponry?):
So the only weaponry available that day capable of that kind of destruction (?). was that which is used on the Apache attack helicopters : provided by The US to (??):
THE IDF: Israelis employed “The Hannibal Protocol”; translation (?):
KILL ANYTHING AND ANYONE THAT MOVES.
Which they DID ;
VERY effectively.
That was the only forensic evidence available to back THAT particular claim up:
The others (???):…
Well, let’s say ….
It’s a bit “dodgy”. Which is to say, no forensic evidence can be found to back up and verify the previous narratives.
Interviewing a Hamas soldier, (who saw the carnage and was captured); he explicitly said, that the orders were to get in quickly, round up hostages, and get OUT : ASAP:
NO time for “recreational” activities like mutilation and mass rape. They quite correctly assumed to be met by IDF troops laying in wait for them: they were astonished by the absence of troops: but they were being timed, and had to get out : QUICKLY. Anything else(?), would mean THEIR execution..(failure not being an option apparently).
So then, WHO came AFTER them(?) Hamas (?), or ISIS? Given the barbarity of the 85 burned bodies(?); it could only be ISIS.
The teams that routinely examine scenes of mass murder all came to those conclusions: from many different countries. The stories were spread to media by Hasbara, and the propaganda arm of The IDF. The person most responsible for these stories is a self professed non soldier, with no military or medical / forensic background or experience. They openly admitted they took their cues from the “Media wing” of The IDF: no EYE WITNESS accounts being immediately available (Hey(??) the victims were all dead now; weren’t they??).
This is apparently standard operating procedure with Hasbara and The IDF. It’s literally their JOB to be the Public Relations “front” /spokespersons” for the IDF :
The “Fixers”.
Now even independent journalists are in agreement as well.
Which must translate as straight-up lies and gaslighting. Many are diligent students - Ukraine is the most obvious. Israel in turn must have taken lessons from Britain the way they incorporated British practices of executing the Mandate.
"It’s like putting 10 blue marbles and 10 red ones in a hat and crying when you pull out a red one and celebrating when it’s blue."
It’s why we have a split congress anyway. If one party rules then the base expects them to pass good legislation. Well except if democrats control all branches. Then they pick someone to be the rotating villain to block the dem agenda.
Nelson, Lieberman and Manchin during Clinton, Obama and Biden. And the base falls for an every time.
So, are you saying that there is NO difference between FDR's New Deal and Trump's Project 2025? None? They're the same? They have the same effect on your life? Really?
Was LBJ's "Great Society" the same as Nixon's "New Federalism"?
Do you think this is all just splitting hairs and angels and pinheads?
the democrats don't believe their own lies but they still tell them. LBJ started kneecapping some of his own programs after they passed. I'm saying both parties are corrupt political machines. where is medicare for all? It's all bullshit, they don't believe their own rhetoric, both parties claim their brand is better, it's like engaging in a heated debate over whether Burger King is better than McDonalds.
If you're focused on recent history, so when did this all change and why?
You agree that there are ideological and political and program and political distinctions between the two parties? And that these distinctions have real world impacts?
But you no longer see these distinctions today? Why?
Referring to the lie that they are "scaling back": "To promote such stories even as Israel publicly declares that it’s preparing for an invasion of Rafah is absurd and irresponsible." When has Israel been responsible? They see themselves as supreme beings who are entitled to do whatever they want. Responsible is not a word they know or want to know.
especially the western msm is trying to obfuscate and to cool the protests down. it's an election year and they've got trouble shushing this one up, imo.
Israel is a "Rogue State," and quite a mass murderous one. The US has abdicated its political/diplomatic "authority" in the Middle East (if it ever had any) by condoning Israel's atrocities. Israel is a proxy of the US; the small buck stops in Tel Aviv, the big buck in DC. To put it mildly, the United States has lost any shred of credibility on the World Stage through its unwavering support of tiny Israel and its acts of criminal insanity.
By this point it’s clear that the U.S. abd the EU are vassals & proxies of a transnational Zionist movement, with double agents in place pretending to be “Secretary of State”, “President” etc.
But it says in their Bible that there must be 40 eyes for an eye and 2 entire mandibles for a tooth! Does it not? Surely that must mean they’re hugely more important and should not be made to suffer like we unwashed. The logic is impeccable, in their opinion.
BBC Radio 3 news this morning reported that Lord Cameron has implored Iran “not to draw the Middle East into wider conflict”!!! Astonishing statement given what the ZioNazis have been doing since October 7th, ahem, 1948!
The indiscriminate slaughter of children by Homo Sapiens, whether the killers be Israelis, Palestinians, or Klingons, is a sign of a very sick species. Imagine what one thousand pound bombs can do to a child's body.... but there is no need for imaginations as there are about 15,000 examples to choose from where the latest victims in Gaza are lying under the weight of the rubble left over by the bombs of bombers. .... ... Of course, there is no question that adults have a right to defend themselves.... ?
You know, given historically how the power hungry sociopathic maniacs in charge of nations seem to always find a way to war, and find a way to kill millions, and how the last two world wars started - the geopolitical landscape really is starting to look very ominous. This is how world wars start - humanity just casually walks right into them. And we'll see soon enough, what happens when Iran retaliates against Israel. And the Iranians are going to retaliate.
Exclusive: Rabbi says Judaism opposes Gaza war, calls it unjustified
Rabbi Weiis stands firm: Unwavering support for Palestine
In a resolute statement, Rabbi Weiss underscored unwavering support for the people of Palestine and urged Jewish individuals not to succumb to the intimidation tactics of "Israel".
Emphasizing his stance against drafting in the Israeli army, which he labeled as the armed wing of the Zionist state, Rabbi Weiss stressed the imperative of withholding support and refraining from military service. He highlighted efforts to offer assistance to those who feel coerced into joining the IOF, providing legal aid to prevent their enlistment.
In his exclusive interview for Al Mayadeen, Rabbi Weiss expressed concern over the influence wielded by organizations such as AIPAC ("American Israel Political Alliance Committee"), suggesting that many individuals may refrain from speaking out against Israeli actions due to fear of being labeled as anti-Semitic.
He urged Jewish representatives not to succumb to external pressures and to act by what he viewed as moral imperatives dictated by God and humanity.
Elsewhere in his remarks, he condemned the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the occupation of Palestinian territories, asserting that such actions lack legitimacy both in terms of religious principles and universal human values.
But, they are under tremendous pressure, because if they stand up against "Israel", they're committing political suicide, a lot of them. Today, maybe because it is so blatant, the criminality, what's happening in Gaza, that they're getting a little leeway to stand up. Maybe and take a different position for the people of Palestine.
In heartfelt solidarity, Rabbi Weiss stated that members of Jewish communities, including those from al-Quds and beyond, express their deep empathy for the people of Palestine.
They eagerly anticipate international action, urging the United Nations to recognize their anguish and plight, he added.
Drawing parallels to their historical suffering, notably the horrors of Auschwitz and the Nazi regime, he stressed that Jews empathize with the Palestinian struggle, affirming their belief in eventual justice and resolution.
Amid their plea for divine intervention and a peaceful resolution, these Jewish voices extend a profound apology for the actions conducted purportedly in their name, he further highlighted. They envision a future where Palestine regains sovereignty over its land, offering their support and willingness to coexist as citizens under Palestinian rule, Rabbi Weiss said.
"If not, we have to go to other countries. No question. It's their land. It's Palestine. It's Palestine. It belongs to the people of Palestine and their children and offspring," he concluded by saying.
"Israel is a sick sick society". -- Max Blumenthal, Jewish American of impeccable journalistic integrity.
Jon Stewart sums up the input of the USA, who are almost as sick as the Israel Society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwgnlPRdHg&t=609s
I wonder if you know your Jon "Stewart" well enough: https://rumble.com/v4gr5au-jon-stewart-says-israel-and-hamas-are-equally-bad.html
I absolutely did not know Jon Stewart well enough. Thanks for this link. I rarely listen to him and I did not realize that the link I sent was not exactly who he always is.
Jon Stewart gave out awards to Ukrainian neo-Nazis at DisneyWorld last year. He's not the "nice guy" he appears to be, alas.
This guy is scum of the earth. He’s played a huge role in all of this. Do NOT let this man fool you.
When you accuse someone of being scum of the earth, you better say why, otherwise you are just someone who bashes other people to make yourself feel better.
Stewart played his part in the mind fuckery of the youth in his time. He is talented I will not take that away from him. He convinced an enormous amount of young impressionable adolescents to follow orders. The slick part is he convinced them that they were smart independent thinkers at the same time.
If you believe this fucking guy (lefty) gives a rat’s ass about the Palestinian people than I have a bridge to sell you. Look listen to him if you like. Listen when he talks about Palestine…..Then WAIT for the “BUT”…..trust me 😉
To follow orders how? where? what are you talking about? I don't know if he gives a rats ass about Palestinians. What I have seen of his comments about what is happening Gaza has mostly been about the duplicity of the USA and that Biden and his cronies have not said or done anything concrete and real about ending the slaughter in Gaza.
And I simply gave you advice; don’t trust Jon Stewart. That being said i don’t care if you do. Knock yourself out. No point in arguing over opinions. Good day.
JS has been part of years of shilling on Comedy Central for the beast. I think it was even called the News which served as a platform to manipulate the young minds millennial generation. Make them believe they were shrewd independent thinkers while Stewart trained them to be sheep.
NOBODY gets that kind of air time unless they serve a purpose. Keep blaming Zionists if it relieves your conscience but it goes deeper than that.
“The best way to control opposition is for us to control it ourselves.” Lenin
Jon Leibowitz? Jesus, can you pick a real human being?s
I don't have time for your anti semitism. One of these days you will maybe learn the difference between Judaism and Zionism
Then don't let the Jewish State of Jewish Controlled Raped Murdered Palestine door hit you on the way out.
One of these days, uh?
Enjoy your yellow brick road. Learn what Israel is, T. Learn what that illegal colony is based on, T. It is Judaism as its core, and you can call a Z a Zionist, but Judaism is the foundation of ALL the Zionists' writing, just maybe not the Judaism you wish for in your fairy tale books.
>>"It is Judaism as its core"
No, it's not. Most Zionists are secular Jews. They are NOT practitioners of Judaism. Just because a Zionist likes to malign all Jews and treat them as monolithic does not make it true. Just because a Zionist proclaims that Israel represents Judaism does not make it true.
It's simple really. Just as one learns to understand and avoid US Empire propaganda, one needs to learn to understand and avoid Zionist propaganda.
Zionist propaganda likes to conflate Zionism with Judaism, Zionism with Jews, etc. Zionism represents Israel, and NOT Jews or Judaism.
there are many Christian evangelist Zionists lately because they think they will rise naked to the side of God once the Jews are in their "promised land". An amusing idea, really if you think about some of those bodies floating upward while we get to watch from down here. Zionism did not come out of the second war. Zionism existed well before, tho I cannot remember exact dates. Jews and Arabs lived side by side, mostly at peace with each other before Zionists came along and started telling Jews they were better etc. You are certainly right that Zionism represents Israel and not Jews.
True. It's like saying the US fascist cabal represents all Americans in this 50 state Empire of lies.
At my peril, I disagree with you. I refuse to be put on the defensive by your horrible racist comments and your attempts to invalidate me.
Max said it is the most perverse society ever, a Nazi society, in fact.
Max Blumenthal is Jewish, but not a Zionist.
What? Is this necessary? Duh. His father is a real culprit, Sydney Blumenthal. Max is treated as a self loathing Jew. He's definitely not loved by Jews in Hollywood or Media or Government or Israel.
All Jews in Israel are Zionists, and all money given to Israel is Zionist, but a shit load of Jews consider Isra-Hell mother fucking ship.
For someone who thinks he is so clever, you make some un-intelligent remarks. All Jews in Israel are not Zionists. Sometimes I wonder if you are having some kind of breakdown. Your racism seems to have gotten worse since I read some of your articles in Dissident Voice.
It's certainly an emotional button for this guy. And his crass bigotry smells like a garbage dump long neglected.
Read the above.
Yesterday there was an excellent article on Consortium News by Lawrence Davidson, "Origins of Israel’s Anti-Arab Racism"
"The anti-Arab racism that pervades modern Israel can be traced back to attitudes of old European imperialism, argued Lawrence Davidson in 2012, in this prescient forecast of today’s Israeli genocide."
It's an excellent article that provides a historical perspective on how Israeli's saw the Arab population when they came to Palestine, ergo the nakba and continue to see them as their inferiors to this day, and why the Israeli population can go along with implementing a genocide. I will never forget and never forgive them for it. One of their generals made the remark the slaughter will continue as if he were talking about animals ready for the kill.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/04/09/origins-of-israels-anti-arab-racism-2/
It was a well written and understood article, Fran, as most items in Consortium are. Caitlin is also added to their offerings, almost weekly.
Your other comment “ and continue to see them as their inferiors to this day,”….that Israeli attitude applies to almost everyone, all nationalities and peoples, everywhere, but particularly Arab people.
Their long term hatred of Iranians even more so as they are regarded not as an Arab country, but as Persian , which of course they are and as a result, well respected by all other Arab nations. Perhaps the best regarded state among Arab nations. Goes a long way back.
That's the reason the Jews hate and fear the Iranians who, based on my still reasonable memory for history, have never started a war of any kind in the last 200 years.
No hegemonic ambitions like the British and the USA.
The Jews did not engage in wars since they had no country of their own, but were part of European countries that certainly did and engaged in the colonization of others they perceived as inferior, like Arabs, Africans, Orientals, and often fellow Europeans, etc. While colonial Europe gave way to national identities the Jews of Israel did not, which is evident in their implementation of the NAKBA. in 1948, and that mindset continues to this day. No, Europeans are not carrying out genocides in their own backyard, and referencing those they kill as animals, and in their genocidal removal of the Palestinians let the world see how they perceive them as inferior to themselves which has always been true in Israel's treatment of these people. They are brutal and barbaric and I hope the world will never forget this barbaric genocidal rampage. It is not only the political class who is allowing this to happen but the Israeli's themselves who do not stand in opposition to what their country is doing because they maintain the same mindset.
My reading tells me that the original Jews who lived in Palestine were sometimes Jewish Arabs. They were a minority but lived fairly peaceably side by side with other Arabs. When European Jews started migrating to Palestine, often bringing with them Zionist ideology, things got difficult for everyone.
This is a two-weeks old interview with Ilan Pappé where he goes over the history: https://youtu.be/z-SQuxleYtI
Thank you russian_bot for the link. Appreciate it.
Things didn't get difficult for everyone they just got difficult for the original Palestinians who were kind enough to share their land.
Actually, I think things got more difficult for the non European Jews who were also living there. There is a lot of pressure on non Zionist Jews to be Zionist. They are called self hating Jews when they don't accept it.
That came after the first Nakaba.
Those that fought in the first WW for the US, and died in it were black and Europeans who came to this country from southern, or eastern Europe. Those who came here from northern, or western Europe were not called into service. The reason for that is the US thought of the first two groups as being on the level with Blacks, or below. I do Ancestry an can account for this reality through my own ancestry.
You're talking about a very small minority and the article is not dealing with Jews who lived in Palestine who did get along with Arabs, but European Jews who adopted a colonial mindset as did other Europeans and saw themselves as superior to others like Arabs.
yes. I was thinking about another article that I read. I am tired right now and need to quit trying to figure out what anyone is talking about. But I do agree with what you are saying; I do understand that it is European Jews who, in the same way as many descended from Europe (or presently from Europe) consider themselves to be the prototype human. I think most of us in America are descended from Europe unless we are indigenous. I was, sadly, born in the UK. But no worse (or better) than being born in America, really.
No, since the founding fathers who were Europeans were no different.
One thing that has become set in concrete since this genocidal mass murder began and that is clear to anyone who has observed the facts. Independent facts that is. Not MSM.
Israelis are the greatest liars unhung.
True. Although US press and US politicians are not too far behind.
i've heard they're often worse in a way. sometimes ha'aretz debunks the most over the top propaganda. western msm almost never corrects. (little secret: our corporate overlords are worse still than the average Israeli).
I'm glad you're continuing to talk about Israel's genocide of Gaza. We can't just get used to it. Our resistance is needed so badly.
As usual, pinned down exact scenario with laser precision. The both sides narrative is obscene.
"Exponential unequal acts of violence" You're a fantastic writer that succinctly draws powerful points of fact. Under "normal" times, these FACTS would not be debated. Thank you for your work!
Caitlin - thanks for keeping and setting the record straight! Greatly appreciated!
“Is there a word for the tactic…Israel excels at it.”
Hasbara?
Precisely Dr Who!,
Hasbara roughly translates to “story telling”.
The first examples having been the so called “boots on the ground” first person witnesses of the atrocities committed by Hamas on 10/7.
“Mass rape”, “torture”, “maiming”, “babies put in ovens (”#holocaust trigger!); “women with their pelvis broken after being brutally gang raped”, and then shot in the head, people “burned alive” in their homes, and “incinerated in their cars”; trying to get away from The Nova Music Festival (proof here!…), However, the fire power used to kill this group (?), was something not available to The Hamas shock troops : (apparently when you’re on a hang glider (?), it’s a bit hard to glide in from high in the air carrying the weight of that type of weaponry?):
So the only weaponry available that day capable of that kind of destruction (?). was that which is used on the Apache attack helicopters : provided by The US to (??):
THE IDF: Israelis employed “The Hannibal Protocol”; translation (?):
KILL ANYTHING AND ANYONE THAT MOVES.
Which they DID ;
VERY effectively.
That was the only forensic evidence available to back THAT particular claim up:
The others (???):…
Well, let’s say ….
It’s a bit “dodgy”. Which is to say, no forensic evidence can be found to back up and verify the previous narratives.
Interviewing a Hamas soldier, (who saw the carnage and was captured); he explicitly said, that the orders were to get in quickly, round up hostages, and get OUT : ASAP:
NO time for “recreational” activities like mutilation and mass rape. They quite correctly assumed to be met by IDF troops laying in wait for them: they were astonished by the absence of troops: but they were being timed, and had to get out : QUICKLY. Anything else(?), would mean THEIR execution..(failure not being an option apparently).
So then, WHO came AFTER them(?) Hamas (?), or ISIS? Given the barbarity of the 85 burned bodies(?); it could only be ISIS.
The teams that routinely examine scenes of mass murder all came to those conclusions: from many different countries. The stories were spread to media by Hasbara, and the propaganda arm of The IDF. The person most responsible for these stories is a self professed non soldier, with no military or medical / forensic background or experience. They openly admitted they took their cues from the “Media wing” of The IDF: no EYE WITNESS accounts being immediately available (Hey(??) the victims were all dead now; weren’t they??).
This is apparently standard operating procedure with Hasbara and The IDF. It’s literally their JOB to be the Public Relations “front” /spokespersons” for the IDF :
The “Fixers”.
Now even independent journalists are in agreement as well.
About those incinerated cars:
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-774511
“The evidence, your honor? We’re the only democracy in the middle east…and Khamas are nazis blah blah blah…”
Which must translate as straight-up lies and gaslighting. Many are diligent students - Ukraine is the most obvious. Israel in turn must have taken lessons from Britain the way they incorporated British practices of executing the Mandate.
Since you mention British practices:
https://www.youtube.com/live/-d1KLNmYsjU?si=UCcx9YAA-bPKOLQ9
History seems to support Brits - well, maybe just English - must be at the top of the sleaze.
Bingo
"It’s like putting 10 blue marbles and 10 red ones in a hat and crying when you pull out a red one and celebrating when it’s blue."
It’s why we have a split congress anyway. If one party rules then the base expects them to pass good legislation. Well except if democrats control all branches. Then they pick someone to be the rotating villain to block the dem agenda.
Nelson, Lieberman and Manchin during Clinton, Obama and Biden. And the base falls for an every time.
So, are you saying that there is NO difference between FDR's New Deal and Trump's Project 2025? None? They're the same? They have the same effect on your life? Really?
Was LBJ's "Great Society" the same as Nixon's "New Federalism"?
Do you think this is all just splitting hairs and angels and pinheads?
the democrats don't believe their own lies but they still tell them. LBJ started kneecapping some of his own programs after they passed. I'm saying both parties are corrupt political machines. where is medicare for all? It's all bullshit, they don't believe their own rhetoric, both parties claim their brand is better, it's like engaging in a heated debate over whether Burger King is better than McDonalds.
only one way to find out: make sure trump wins so he can (try to) implement project 2025. :-) (that and time-travel to the new deal era).
I’m talking about recent history. Read my comment again.
If you're focused on recent history, so when did this all change and why?
You agree that there are ideological and political and program and political distinctions between the two parties? And that these distinctions have real world impacts?
But you no longer see these distinctions today? Why?
It definitely changed with Clinton and his 3rd way democrats. He got legitimately passed that Bush couldn’t such as NAFTA and welfare reform.
The patriot act passed with bipartisan votes as did today’s FISA bill that allows us to be spied on without warrants.
Dems are far abortive, republicans are against it. But democrats had 3 chances to codify it, but didn’t try.
Dems like gender issues, republicans don’t. On everything that the PTB wants passed both parties get it done.
Why does my answer matter to you?
sometime after McGovern but before Reagan.
The Nazi's based a lot of their project on FDR's New Deal. Was Hitler's Nazi's the same as FDR's project?
maybe list the differences.
Referring to the lie that they are "scaling back": "To promote such stories even as Israel publicly declares that it’s preparing for an invasion of Rafah is absurd and irresponsible." When has Israel been responsible? They see themselves as supreme beings who are entitled to do whatever they want. Responsible is not a word they know or want to know.
especially the western msm is trying to obfuscate and to cool the protests down. it's an election year and they've got trouble shushing this one up, imo.
Israel is a "Rogue State," and quite a mass murderous one. The US has abdicated its political/diplomatic "authority" in the Middle East (if it ever had any) by condoning Israel's atrocities. Israel is a proxy of the US; the small buck stops in Tel Aviv, the big buck in DC. To put it mildly, the United States has lost any shred of credibility on the World Stage through its unwavering support of tiny Israel and its acts of criminal insanity.
By this point it’s clear that the U.S. abd the EU are vassals & proxies of a transnational Zionist movement, with double agents in place pretending to be “Secretary of State”, “President” etc.
But it says in their Bible that there must be 40 eyes for an eye and 2 entire mandibles for a tooth! Does it not? Surely that must mean they’re hugely more important and should not be made to suffer like we unwashed. The logic is impeccable, in their opinion.
Remember George. 'God's chosen people'
A very bad choice, God, if you are watching all these crimes.
I bet God is regretting her/his/their choice big time.
It is written that they are the Chosen™ ones. They should know, they wrote it.
And Stalin's logic was also impeccable. And he didn't even read the bible.
Does Iran not have the right to defend itself?
BBC Radio 3 news this morning reported that Lord Cameron has implored Iran “not to draw the Middle East into wider conflict”!!! Astonishing statement given what the ZioNazis have been doing since October 7th, ahem, 1948!
The indiscriminate slaughter of children by Homo Sapiens, whether the killers be Israelis, Palestinians, or Klingons, is a sign of a very sick species. Imagine what one thousand pound bombs can do to a child's body.... but there is no need for imaginations as there are about 15,000 examples to choose from where the latest victims in Gaza are lying under the weight of the rubble left over by the bombs of bombers. .... ... Of course, there is no question that adults have a right to defend themselves.... ?
You know, given historically how the power hungry sociopathic maniacs in charge of nations seem to always find a way to war, and find a way to kill millions, and how the last two world wars started - the geopolitical landscape really is starting to look very ominous. This is how world wars start - humanity just casually walks right into them. And we'll see soon enough, what happens when Iran retaliates against Israel. And the Iranians are going to retaliate.
You ask "is there a word for ..."? Yes, not one word but two.
What you refer to is known as a pre-emptive strike.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/exclusive--rabbi-says-judaism-opposes-gaza-war--calls-it-unj full article
Exclusive: Rabbi says Judaism opposes Gaza war, calls it unjustified
Rabbi Weiis stands firm: Unwavering support for Palestine
In a resolute statement, Rabbi Weiss underscored unwavering support for the people of Palestine and urged Jewish individuals not to succumb to the intimidation tactics of "Israel".
Emphasizing his stance against drafting in the Israeli army, which he labeled as the armed wing of the Zionist state, Rabbi Weiss stressed the imperative of withholding support and refraining from military service. He highlighted efforts to offer assistance to those who feel coerced into joining the IOF, providing legal aid to prevent their enlistment.
In his exclusive interview for Al Mayadeen, Rabbi Weiss expressed concern over the influence wielded by organizations such as AIPAC ("American Israel Political Alliance Committee"), suggesting that many individuals may refrain from speaking out against Israeli actions due to fear of being labeled as anti-Semitic.
He urged Jewish representatives not to succumb to external pressures and to act by what he viewed as moral imperatives dictated by God and humanity.
Elsewhere in his remarks, he condemned the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the occupation of Palestinian territories, asserting that such actions lack legitimacy both in terms of religious principles and universal human values.
But, they are under tremendous pressure, because if they stand up against "Israel", they're committing political suicide, a lot of them. Today, maybe because it is so blatant, the criminality, what's happening in Gaza, that they're getting a little leeway to stand up. Maybe and take a different position for the people of Palestine.
In heartfelt solidarity, Rabbi Weiss stated that members of Jewish communities, including those from al-Quds and beyond, express their deep empathy for the people of Palestine.
They eagerly anticipate international action, urging the United Nations to recognize their anguish and plight, he added.
Drawing parallels to their historical suffering, notably the horrors of Auschwitz and the Nazi regime, he stressed that Jews empathize with the Palestinian struggle, affirming their belief in eventual justice and resolution.
Amid their plea for divine intervention and a peaceful resolution, these Jewish voices extend a profound apology for the actions conducted purportedly in their name, he further highlighted. They envision a future where Palestine regains sovereignty over its land, offering their support and willingness to coexist as citizens under Palestinian rule, Rabbi Weiss said.
"If not, we have to go to other countries. No question. It's their land. It's Palestine. It's Palestine. It belongs to the people of Palestine and their children and offspring," he concluded by saying.