All I can think about while reading this account is how much the Jewish Zionists that I live among here in NY would see no problem whatsoever with any of this - for Greta or for a Palestinian. Their Jewish Supremacy exists in place of their humanity. “If you’re not Jewish, then fuck off and die” is essentially their entire belief system.
And if you are Jewish and you support Palestinian rights, you are regarded as a traitor. There was a Jewish journalist on the later flotilla who appeared to be singled out for abusive treatment.
My own experience suggests that being brought up from childhood with pro-Israel perspectives strongly clouds one's view.
My Jewish father was hardly a raving Zionist--he was secular and the topic of Israel only came up in the context of occasional news stories about some event in the Middle East--but it still took until my mid-fifties for me to move past the perspective I took from him and see Israel through clear eyes.
I think that's the case for many of us, but we know what's right in front of our faces now. Nobody can say now, that they don't understand what's going on.
there area lot like you and they are increasing daily. How on earth This Isreal gov can justify their behaviour is just mind blowing. There has to be consequences for all of them and all who have supported Isreal at this time
I live in a very Jewish part of my city too and there are many zionists living on my street. I think they are very similar to your NY zionists. I don't like saying NY Jews, because I don't want to label all Jews as that evil. Ben Gvir said: “We will not allow individuals who support terrorism to live in comfort. They will face the full consequences of their actions,” I really hope that somehow, someday, the zionists and their supporters who have supported Israel in doing whatever the hell they have felt like doing for the past 100 years or so, to Palestinians and to anyone who does not support their cruelty and insanity that has arisen from their false belief that they are somehow superior beings will experience the consequences of their actions. I don't really know what I want those consequences to be. I don't believe in torturing and killing other beings; I don't support our prison system. But somehow, these people have to be separated from the rest of us. So I guess, it would have to be some kind of mental institution that could keep them away from the rest of the world.
That, or the Negev desert. I think there are some old mines out there where the Israelis could be put to productive work. Gaza, after all, is home for the Palestinians, even if it requires years to be rebuilt. And there is enough wealth in Israel's treasury to do that, with improvements.
I agree very much. I do not believe that putting people into prisons and treating them badly there does anything to rehabilitate them as members of society. It is all revenge and retribution. And I believe that society has every right to protect itself from those whose behavior injures others.
Exile of serious criminals from society was the rule, long ago. And even into modern times, with Australia and the British colonies in North America (Georgia was a penal colony). But there's big no place for criminals to be sent any more (except Siberia), so prisons with humane conditions (prison camps, prison farms) are the best solution. And allow their family members to visit and stay a while, if they desire. Some serious criminals, eventually, may be let back into the general society.
Maybe one day, we will have developed to the point where all the normal people can just get on board a space ship, and leave all the Zionist scum here to kill each other. Then the animals and plants can take over when they are all gone and have a utopia for all of them.
Most people prefer to pretend that that is not so. They do not want to know that they live among psychopathic shitheads in New York and all over the world.
First, let’s not forget that Biden enthusiastically labeled himself a Zionist and he openly supported Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. And Harris was a devout cheerleader for the slaughter as well.
Second, most polls report that over 90% of Israeli Jews consider themselves to be Zionists. And that over 82% of Israeli Jews support the slaughter of Palestinians. So, is this a Jewish problem or a Zionist problem? I guess if you say it is a Zionist problem, and they all just *happen* to be Jewish, that still means that over 90% of the Israeli Jewish population is the problem. I find it hard to make this unique distinction.
Third, one has to work hard to get through all the propaganda (aka lies) about the creation of the Jewish state. The reality is far more interesting than the lies. Declassified documents from British cabinet meetings in the years prior to the Balfour Declaration describe utter contempt within the cabinet towards Jews. In the 1930s many countries in Europe and the U.S. openly talked about the “Jewish Problem”. What was the problem? The belief was that Jews operated by a significantly different moral code than the rest of those societies. This was similar to the way people in the U.S. today describe the Russian mafia: ruthless and completely untrustworthy. To boil it all down, virtually no country wanted them. You might know that the U.S. refused to allow ships carrying hundreds of Jews fleeing Germany to enter U.S. ports because the U.S. didn’t want them. Very few countries accepted more than a token amount of Jewish refugees. It was against this backdrop that Hitler began brazenly demonizing the Jews.
After the war, neither the UK nor the U.S. wanted to accept potentially millions of Jews. Thus, they decided to steal land from the Palestinians and give it the Jews - because they didn’t want Jews polluting their own countries. Naturally, they fabricated an elaborate story painting themselves as noble for bequeathing the Jews their own homeland.
And yet they lived peacefully for centuries among Arabic populations with no issues, before the formation of the state of Israel. It's difficult to believe they were 'all' a 'problem'. Or is it something inherent in the religion? For one thing, little discussed, I simply don't accept that a religion is a race.
i think jews lived peacefully among arabic populations for centures because there was not a massive number of them. there was a mix of people and enough land to accommodate them without friction. it was the forced infliction of millions of jews into a former harmonious situation that caused the problem. britain and the balfour declaration must take the blame for that.
I was replying to a comment that suggested nobody wanted/could live with the Jews (Europe, US etc) and pointing out that wasn't because they were inherently different in some way.
Large populations of humans are always going to be an issue. Yet somehow nobody talks (enough) about overpopulation
They are the most vile creatures on the planet and this perfectly illustrates why Jews have been kicked out of every country in which they set up shop.
Caveat: all Jews ard not ZioNazis nor are all ZioNazis Jews.
We have humanity. That’s how we’re able to cope with such disgraceful words. How you have such confidence to speak about an entire group you know so little about is beyond me. Would you do that for any other group of people?
So Josh, Tell us what you think about the treatment Greta and the other Flotilla activists received. Do you support it? How do you feel about the Palestinians being starved. Do you support it? There isn't a person who reads this site regularly who doesn't understand that Zionist Jews are different from all our wonderful Jewish brothers and sisters fighting this atrocity. Just as we understand that there is a difference between Christian Zionists and Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus. So tell us who you are, so we know which camp to which you identify. Are you in the despicable, evil camp or are you in the camp that is fighting despicable evil.
Well, let's see. First the Israelis dropped incendiary explosives onto a group of boats carrying aid to Gaza, when the boats were far from Israel's territorial waters. Then the Israelis boarded those vessels illegally, still in international waters, after spraying them with something called Skunk Water, which appears to be raw sewage. That is an act of vulgar assault and unvarnished piracy. Next, the Israelis abducted the crew and passengers of the vessels, still in international waters, which is an act of kidnapping and false imprisonment, combined with structured humiliation of the abducted people.
In a court of law, Israel has so much to answer for that there are not enough lawyers who would stoop low enough to represent them.
And in fact we know plenty about the entire group of Israelis, because they are so thuggish that they advertise proudly their corruption, decadence, and lack of moral fiber. They are their own primary witnesses for the prosecution! And they brag about it!
But Zionazilandia (Israel) is above the law. and further, have just about every politician in every country to protect them (and get lots of U.S. $$$ for doing it.
Yes, and as she says if this what they did to a high profile person like her, just imagine what they do to the Palestinians. And Australian hostages who have returned also have harrowing stories, as does a Jewish journalist and others with US passports. And what do all these western governments who "support" human rights say?
If the genocide didn't prove our governments are nothing but a sick joke in the service of a terrorist state,, this should.
Yes. I was really disappointed in the response of Swedish officials. I thought they might be different, especially in light of the large pro-Palestinian protests in Sweden. Are all these governments bought? Hard to wrap one’s head around.
When you can't figure out why a government treats their own citizens with contempt (anyone really) just "follow the money." You'll find your answers. Oil rights, weapons contracts, etc., are infinitely more important than a bunch of do-gooders in the government's eyes.
Agreed Nancy, would've definitely thought they would have stepped into help Greta, one of their own citizens and a prominent activist besides, but I guess not. Very disappointed in their lack of a response to the treatment of one of their own citizens by the occupiers
I don't even know that they are bought. I think that they are all part of a club, and economic relationships play a key part of that, so stepping outside of the club is seen as worse than .... IDK ... abiding by international law maybe?having a moral compass? Having a backbone? To quote Galadriel ... the world has changed. The world could pressure the Apartheid state of South Africa, but it won't bother stopping a genocide - in fact - most of our governments have been aiding and abetting the genocide both directly and indirectly
Bribery, blackmail or threats - Israel makes all three. Which cities have the threatened to bomb? The dilema, do you tell them to get lost and risk it happening, or do you stay quiet, give them your support. Or do you tell your people about the threat, manage a quiet exodus and then tell them to go for it?
Yes except the one's the Zionist colonial regime is waging wars on... so literally the whole world minus the likes of Burkina Faso, Palestine, Mali, Cuba, Venezuela, Yemen to name a few... it's a gross reality.
I thought exactly the same thing as I read Caitlin's piece. What has happened to the governments of the Collective West? Zionism is truly a cancer that is trying to kill human decency in the West.
It's not just sexual violence, it's giving the finger to the whole world that despises Israel. They are taunting everyone on earth who hates their murderous asses. Because they know they can get away with all their crimes. These are the worst bastards who've ever lived. Will no one anywhere stop these motherfuckers?
Honestly? It won't be our governments or those in power who will stand up to ot - at least not until it starts to cost them. And just in case you didn't know - on Monday near Lahore, Pakistan pro Palestinian protesters were killed. Reports are saying hundreds of them. So it looks like its not just western governments who are the problem.
Pakistan has had a vassal usurper imposed on them by the West though! The CIA has got Imran Khan locked up for trying to escape from under Washington influence. Did you see the sniffling brown nosing of it's current President speaking at 'Peace 2025' in Egypt saying that Trump is a lovely man who should get the Nobel peace prize? Pakistan is completely captured and compromised by US interests.
Yes, i did see that. And re Pakistan being ... i guess a vassal state of the west .... yes. If it wasn't there'd be a big fuss made of them killing hundreds of protesters. Pakistan has been a basket case for decades - just like a lot of countries that have had western interference. Imran Khan seemed to think Pakistan was a sovereign country.
Yep. What cheek from Khan! The latest country to have the US overthrow their democratically elected government by NED interference is Nepal, though Indonesia, the Philippines, India and now Madagascar have all had violent unrest stirred by the US. And of course they’re now going full on, and openly, for Maduro in Venezuela who thinks that his country has a right to profit from its own oil
The US might not be up their with military might but they still reign supreme on the social media manipulation front.
They have been involved in more than 60 coups since the end of WWII, and social media seems to be making it that much easier to create unrest which ultimately destabilises a country,making it vulnerable.
2 police officers were killed by these armed protesters, several injured , they torched the cars near by , burned small shops ,threw stones ,injuring near by people! Only then the police was ordered to shoot back . Around 35 of them got shot , and many injured were those trying to escape!They cashed on the slogan of "March for Aqsa , Gaza. " Being a resident of Pakistan, i know waymore about the whole situation. Besides M S M is paid by the party heads to report exaggeration.
Thanks for the update. I didn't see the information in western mainstream media, what happensin Pakistan would barely be mentioned unless it was a political assassination or involved a westerner. The protesters (as i am sure you know) were members of TLP, a group which might be described as religious extremists, and what you say re them starting the violence makes sense. Reports i have seen indicatea higger death toll than that. Indian media reported 250 protesterd dead and a number of police officers. Israeli sources say tge death toll was 5.
Bernie Sanders is trying, seeking since 1988 to block arms shipments to Israel. In his latest bill, which all Republicans voted against, he had the majority of Democrats voting to end the arms to Israel. If you do not support his effort to stop arming Israel, you are a traitor to the cause.
Controlled opposition is always "trying" to fail, so you continue to support the same controlled opposition every time. Just now, Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders refused to oppose the sending of air defense and anti-missile systems to Israel - The same systems that allow them to continue with the genocide and atrocities undaunted.
Yes, they're giving the finger and taunting the rest of the world. But they know they're not going to get away with it. There will be more and more talk of and international intervention, troops from Colombia and other countries who are not US vassals.
War, using proxies like Ukraine and Israel, is exactly what the US based interests in fossil fuels and arms want to weaken their enemies.
With half a billion dollars coming into the Trump January campaign and the outright ownership of 86% of all those paid for politicians in the USA House and Senate, that is not the support we will ever need to 'stop these people'.
Today, almost nothing has happened in the USA in the way of civil unrest and just look what is happening to the cities by Trump with his National Guard and ICE Police.
What could he do with his powers? There's the problem. He can get away with murder.
Why he has even named Interfa as a terrorist group, clearly making them a target and yet another group now restricted in their agitations for justice.
So perhaps the USA is not the vehicle for a return to humanity.
That leaves the Western puppets. No chance there either, The tentacles of Jewish graft have been in all those corridors for at least two hundred of years. They like it there. Switzerland, France UK, others, all as it was since the beginning of the 20th century.
It is entrenched.
So there's the problem. It was the one thing that Netanyahu was able to rely on. He has the financial support he needs to continue, the military support in the shape of the USA, the weak Western governments and their historical allegiance to the USA and to allow it all happen, the apathy of the American people.
Count me in on that question. It amazes me sat they have been allowed to do this for so long. In the beginning it was behind the scenes, mostly, but now it's out in the open so why, why, why has no one stopped it?
Not as long as Jews control America's Politicians including the Presidency. Bribery and Blackmail go along way in getting Organized Jewry what it wants.
Give Trump immunity and have him spill the beans just exactly how he is being totally controlled by Israel. He stays out of jail and we learn how he has been totally throttled.
When the entire planet gives you permission to kill for depraved pleasure for close to a century, do you think they fear anyone? Israelis kill for fun. IDF suicides would be much higher if a majority weren't violent psychopaths.
Killing Palestinians any way they can, is the ISRAELI IDF Genocider's favorite Hobby. They don't feel like they are really living unless they are Killing Palestinians
They have been programed to kill Palestinians from birth. Humans aren't born hating others. It's like the song from the musical "South Pacific" says: "You have to be carefully taught...To hate all the people your relatives hate. You have to be taught by 6 or 7 or 8. You have to be carefully taught."
Otherwise seemingly-intelligent people I know are rabid supporters of this extremely evil entity known as 'Israel'. I don't understand it at all, it's actually bizarre.
>>"Some of these same people are otherwise moral, with values."
Exactly! That is why it is a mistake to assume 'intelligence' means morals, values, ethics, beliefs, etc. Intelligence is NOT a stand-in for this, and the correlation is very weak (if it even exists in the first place).
Most humans are brainwashed about something or another. That is what propaganda, indoctrination, and narratives primarily set out to achieve. The flaw seems to be in the human psyche (i.e. psychology) that makes humans hackable and manipulable.
There are methods to overcome this 'propaganda/indoctrination/narratives/beliefs/etc.', but that requires learning critical thinking skills (which takes deliberate effort and few have been willing to invest their time and energy for this). My rough estimation is that 95% of the human population does not possess adequate critical thinking skills (and this % goes higher in online/social-media spaces).
Those seemingly intelligent people are afflicted with a manufactured mental disorder. It's been enthralling them their entire lives. Their minds are full of zionist propaganda and lies. I have a relative like that and years ago I was also a neocon zionist dupe.
How will Trump address the Thunberg situation? Will he be sympathetic or will he skip around the issue? Will he lecture Bibi? Or will he keep kissing Israeli ass?
Like 3rd degree burns over 70% of the body of my brother in a hot bath with his hands tied behind his back. He died one month later at St. Francis Memorial Hospital Burn Unit, S.F. in 1972. See Jacqui and Aaron Schiff https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/a-most-dangerous-method/
This does not Surprise me, because Zionism is a Vile Perverted Culture of Sexual Deviants ,Child Molesters, Rapist Perverts ,with a sick obsession for all things of a Sexual Nature.
I am so sorry Greta and the other brave flotilla members had to endure such despicable treatment at the hands of the occupiers. The sexual humiliation is especially grotesque and disgusting, what shameful behavior. And the constant mockery and denial of even basic things like water is disgraceful, and these were international humanitarians, can't imagine what happens to the Palestinians who are imprisoned by the occupiers, I shudder to even think!
I have zero fucks left to give for the state of Israel. Now, or in the future. It is a country ruled by monstrous savages, who are far from being the victims they so frequently claim they are.
Orange freak's only making things easier for the idf cowards and thugs and fascist isrehell. Bought and paid for by the fascists. They can now do any and everything with no consequences, not that they didn't do the same before. Long Live Francesca. The UN. The ICC. Spain. Italy's Football team, Ireland. May (God)bless the people of Palestine.
"Israel is so evil it’s actually hard to wrap your mind around it."
It is. A Jewish-American reporter from the Thousand Madleens Flotilla also reports she suffered sexual abuse and beatings. Obviously having a Western passport and even being Jewish doesn't prevent humanitarian aid workers from being treated with absolute contempt. Can you imagine how the Palestinian hostages in those prisons have been treated? It's time to pass the Uniting for Peace initiative! More info: https://merijngoeman.substack.com/p/gaza-phase-1-agreement-prospects
All I can think about while reading this account is how much the Jewish Zionists that I live among here in NY would see no problem whatsoever with any of this - for Greta or for a Palestinian. Their Jewish Supremacy exists in place of their humanity. “If you’re not Jewish, then fuck off and die” is essentially their entire belief system.
And if you are Jewish and you support Palestinian rights, you are regarded as a traitor. There was a Jewish journalist on the later flotilla who appeared to be singled out for abusive treatment.
You’re right. “Traitors” must get it even worse. Is that why none of my Jewish friends are able to find their humanity?
My own experience suggests that being brought up from childhood with pro-Israel perspectives strongly clouds one's view.
My Jewish father was hardly a raving Zionist--he was secular and the topic of Israel only came up in the context of occasional news stories about some event in the Middle East--but it still took until my mid-fifties for me to move past the perspective I took from him and see Israel through clear eyes.
I think that's the case for many of us, but we know what's right in front of our faces now. Nobody can say now, that they don't understand what's going on.
there area lot like you and they are increasing daily. How on earth This Isreal gov can justify their behaviour is just mind blowing. There has to be consequences for all of them and all who have supported Isreal at this time
Good question.
Maybe they have no humanity???
seems like it. They are also stupid to think that the world out there does not see and hear what they are doing. There is going to be consequences
Maybe they just don't care , as they see it as above any attempts to change it.
if humanity is to survive in any shape or form Isreal has to eventually be held to account and all who have supported them
I think that many who are confronted with the insanity of zionism are afraid. I can understand that. Somehow, we need to help them not to be afraid.
They are probably just as afraid of what their own government would do to them if it ever got wind of their attitude.
Unlimited tribalism and inbreeding has had a very crippling effect on the people who identify as Jews.
They're still your friends? You're a more forgiving person than I am.
I live in a very Jewish part of my city too and there are many zionists living on my street. I think they are very similar to your NY zionists. I don't like saying NY Jews, because I don't want to label all Jews as that evil. Ben Gvir said: “We will not allow individuals who support terrorism to live in comfort. They will face the full consequences of their actions,” I really hope that somehow, someday, the zionists and their supporters who have supported Israel in doing whatever the hell they have felt like doing for the past 100 years or so, to Palestinians and to anyone who does not support their cruelty and insanity that has arisen from their false belief that they are somehow superior beings will experience the consequences of their actions. I don't really know what I want those consequences to be. I don't believe in torturing and killing other beings; I don't support our prison system. But somehow, these people have to be separated from the rest of us. So I guess, it would have to be some kind of mental institution that could keep them away from the rest of the world.
Mass psychopathy must be eradicated.
My solution would be to move the settlers out into the Gaza strip and the Palestinians into the part of Palestine called Israel.
Hamas would be the guards at the gates.
I see this as being the best solution. Although the deaths of 500,000 and utter destruction can never be repaid.
That, or the Negev desert. I think there are some old mines out there where the Israelis could be put to productive work. Gaza, after all, is home for the Palestinians, even if it requires years to be rebuilt. And there is enough wealth in Israel's treasury to do that, with improvements.
That's the most reasonable solution I've heard so far.
well said The majority of humanity share your views susan
I agree very much. I do not believe that putting people into prisons and treating them badly there does anything to rehabilitate them as members of society. It is all revenge and retribution. And I believe that society has every right to protect itself from those whose behavior injures others.
Exile of serious criminals from society was the rule, long ago. And even into modern times, with Australia and the British colonies in North America (Georgia was a penal colony). But there's big no place for criminals to be sent any more (except Siberia), so prisons with humane conditions (prison camps, prison farms) are the best solution. And allow their family members to visit and stay a while, if they desire. Some serious criminals, eventually, may be let back into the general society.
Maybe one day, we will have developed to the point where all the normal people can just get on board a space ship, and leave all the Zionist scum here to kill each other. Then the animals and plants can take over when they are all gone and have a utopia for all of them.
I hope you have a firearm under your pillow when you sleep(with one eye open, I'm sure).
Most people prefer to pretend that that is not so. They do not want to know that they live among psychopathic shitheads in New York and all over the world.
I would submit a couple of points.
First, let’s not forget that Biden enthusiastically labeled himself a Zionist and he openly supported Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. And Harris was a devout cheerleader for the slaughter as well.
Second, most polls report that over 90% of Israeli Jews consider themselves to be Zionists. And that over 82% of Israeli Jews support the slaughter of Palestinians. So, is this a Jewish problem or a Zionist problem? I guess if you say it is a Zionist problem, and they all just *happen* to be Jewish, that still means that over 90% of the Israeli Jewish population is the problem. I find it hard to make this unique distinction.
Third, one has to work hard to get through all the propaganda (aka lies) about the creation of the Jewish state. The reality is far more interesting than the lies. Declassified documents from British cabinet meetings in the years prior to the Balfour Declaration describe utter contempt within the cabinet towards Jews. In the 1930s many countries in Europe and the U.S. openly talked about the “Jewish Problem”. What was the problem? The belief was that Jews operated by a significantly different moral code than the rest of those societies. This was similar to the way people in the U.S. today describe the Russian mafia: ruthless and completely untrustworthy. To boil it all down, virtually no country wanted them. You might know that the U.S. refused to allow ships carrying hundreds of Jews fleeing Germany to enter U.S. ports because the U.S. didn’t want them. Very few countries accepted more than a token amount of Jewish refugees. It was against this backdrop that Hitler began brazenly demonizing the Jews.
After the war, neither the UK nor the U.S. wanted to accept potentially millions of Jews. Thus, they decided to steal land from the Palestinians and give it the Jews - because they didn’t want Jews polluting their own countries. Naturally, they fabricated an elaborate story painting themselves as noble for bequeathing the Jews their own homeland.
And yet they lived peacefully for centuries among Arabic populations with no issues, before the formation of the state of Israel. It's difficult to believe they were 'all' a 'problem'. Or is it something inherent in the religion? For one thing, little discussed, I simply don't accept that a religion is a race.
i think jews lived peacefully among arabic populations for centures because there was not a massive number of them. there was a mix of people and enough land to accommodate them without friction. it was the forced infliction of millions of jews into a former harmonious situation that caused the problem. britain and the balfour declaration must take the blame for that.
Yes, absolutely.
I was replying to a comment that suggested nobody wanted/could live with the Jews (Europe, US etc) and pointing out that wasn't because they were inherently different in some way.
Large populations of humans are always going to be an issue. Yet somehow nobody talks (enough) about overpopulation
And if they didn't behave themselves, they were kicked out or re-educated in some way?
They are the most vile creatures on the planet and this perfectly illustrates why Jews have been kicked out of every country in which they set up shop.
Caveat: all Jews ard not ZioNazis nor are all ZioNazis Jews.
Maybe some one should just take them away from their warped parents, politicians, and rabbis and teach them how normal people are supposed to act?
Even outside of Israel? Wow.
If you want to read the Zionist version of this story (along with the vile comments), I urge you to read the Daily Mail article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15194147/Greta-Thunberg-Israel-flotilla.html
Sickening
No, thanks. I'm not strong enough and my anger would make me ill.
It’s not about being Jewish it’s about being a Zionist that’s what unites these bastards
Would be nice, if you are right, but.......
We have humanity. That’s how we’re able to cope with such disgraceful words. How you have such confidence to speak about an entire group you know so little about is beyond me. Would you do that for any other group of people?
We know all we need to know about 'israelis'. That goes for anyone who supports them, Jewish or otherwise
So Josh, Tell us what you think about the treatment Greta and the other Flotilla activists received. Do you support it? How do you feel about the Palestinians being starved. Do you support it? There isn't a person who reads this site regularly who doesn't understand that Zionist Jews are different from all our wonderful Jewish brothers and sisters fighting this atrocity. Just as we understand that there is a difference between Christian Zionists and Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus. So tell us who you are, so we know which camp to which you identify. Are you in the despicable, evil camp or are you in the camp that is fighting despicable evil.
You have humanity... by the balls, stripped naked and raped and tortured in black prisons. You must be stopped.
Well, let's see. First the Israelis dropped incendiary explosives onto a group of boats carrying aid to Gaza, when the boats were far from Israel's territorial waters. Then the Israelis boarded those vessels illegally, still in international waters, after spraying them with something called Skunk Water, which appears to be raw sewage. That is an act of vulgar assault and unvarnished piracy. Next, the Israelis abducted the crew and passengers of the vessels, still in international waters, which is an act of kidnapping and false imprisonment, combined with structured humiliation of the abducted people.
In a court of law, Israel has so much to answer for that there are not enough lawyers who would stoop low enough to represent them.
And in fact we know plenty about the entire group of Israelis, because they are so thuggish that they advertise proudly their corruption, decadence, and lack of moral fiber. They are their own primary witnesses for the prosecution! And they brag about it!
But Zionazilandia (Israel) is above the law. and further, have just about every politician in every country to protect them (and get lots of U.S. $$$ for doing it.
Yes, and as she says if this what they did to a high profile person like her, just imagine what they do to the Palestinians. And Australian hostages who have returned also have harrowing stories, as does a Jewish journalist and others with US passports. And what do all these western governments who "support" human rights say?
If the genocide didn't prove our governments are nothing but a sick joke in the service of a terrorist state,, this should.
Yes. I was really disappointed in the response of Swedish officials. I thought they might be different, especially in light of the large pro-Palestinian protests in Sweden. Are all these governments bought? Hard to wrap one’s head around.
When you can't figure out why a government treats their own citizens with contempt (anyone really) just "follow the money." You'll find your answers. Oil rights, weapons contracts, etc., are infinitely more important than a bunch of do-gooders in the government's eyes.
And… the Epstein files. He and Israel were a team.
Agreed Nancy, would've definitely thought they would have stepped into help Greta, one of their own citizens and a prominent activist besides, but I guess not. Very disappointed in their lack of a response to the treatment of one of their own citizens by the occupiers
I don't even know that they are bought. I think that they are all part of a club, and economic relationships play a key part of that, so stepping outside of the club is seen as worse than .... IDK ... abiding by international law maybe?having a moral compass? Having a backbone? To quote Galadriel ... the world has changed. The world could pressure the Apartheid state of South Africa, but it won't bother stopping a genocide - in fact - most of our governments have been aiding and abetting the genocide both directly and indirectly
Bribery, blackmail or threats - Israel makes all three. Which cities have the threatened to bomb? The dilema, do you tell them to get lost and risk it happening, or do you stay quiet, give them your support. Or do you tell your people about the threat, manage a quiet exodus and then tell them to go for it?
Yes they clearly are. AIPAC has very deep pockets.
Deep American pockets, while mericans can ot afford health cover, travel is get it free thanks to US taxpayers.
I think that money is part of it, but I think that fear of retaliation is another part of it. zionists are scary creatures.
In which case the whole world will be beholden to them forever. We may as well just throw in the towel and convert, or kill ourselves
Or get them the hell out of our society for good. But how? Maybe THEY can be sent to Mars ? Let them fuck it up and leave us alone?
Better idea.
Yes except the one's the Zionist colonial regime is waging wars on... so literally the whole world minus the likes of Burkina Faso, Palestine, Mali, Cuba, Venezuela, Yemen to name a few... it's a gross reality.
I think we should stop capitalizing zionism. It is not worthy of capitalization.
Good point - I am going to do the same from now on!
And 'israel' should always be in inverted commas. Derecognised.
Maybe all the rapes happening in Sweden has something to do with it.
I thought exactly the same thing as I read Caitlin's piece. What has happened to the governments of the Collective West? Zionism is truly a cancer that is trying to kill human decency in the West.
It's not just sexual violence, it's giving the finger to the whole world that despises Israel. They are taunting everyone on earth who hates their murderous asses. Because they know they can get away with all their crimes. These are the worst bastards who've ever lived. Will no one anywhere stop these motherfuckers?
>>"Will no one anywhere stop these motherfuckers?"
This has been my question too for the last 2 years...
Or longer.
Stop the Zionist Israeli racist Mother fuckers and supporters. Cancel Israel.
Yes! YES!!
... and my question for the last 70 plus years.
Honestly? It won't be our governments or those in power who will stand up to ot - at least not until it starts to cost them. And just in case you didn't know - on Monday near Lahore, Pakistan pro Palestinian protesters were killed. Reports are saying hundreds of them. So it looks like its not just western governments who are the problem.
Pakistan has had a vassal usurper imposed on them by the West though! The CIA has got Imran Khan locked up for trying to escape from under Washington influence. Did you see the sniffling brown nosing of it's current President speaking at 'Peace 2025' in Egypt saying that Trump is a lovely man who should get the Nobel peace prize? Pakistan is completely captured and compromised by US interests.
The CIA and Mossad are the most dangerous Terrorist Organizations in the World.
Yes, i did see that. And re Pakistan being ... i guess a vassal state of the west .... yes. If it wasn't there'd be a big fuss made of them killing hundreds of protesters. Pakistan has been a basket case for decades - just like a lot of countries that have had western interference. Imran Khan seemed to think Pakistan was a sovereign country.
Yep. What cheek from Khan! The latest country to have the US overthrow their democratically elected government by NED interference is Nepal, though Indonesia, the Philippines, India and now Madagascar have all had violent unrest stirred by the US. And of course they’re now going full on, and openly, for Maduro in Venezuela who thinks that his country has a right to profit from its own oil
The US might not be up their with military might but they still reign supreme on the social media manipulation front.
They have been involved in more than 60 coups since the end of WWII, and social media seems to be making it that much easier to create unrest which ultimately destabilises a country,making it vulnerable.
Wow, this has managed to sneak under my radar
2 police officers were killed by these armed protesters, several injured , they torched the cars near by , burned small shops ,threw stones ,injuring near by people! Only then the police was ordered to shoot back . Around 35 of them got shot , and many injured were those trying to escape!They cashed on the slogan of "March for Aqsa , Gaza. " Being a resident of Pakistan, i know waymore about the whole situation. Besides M S M is paid by the party heads to report exaggeration.
Thanks for the update. I didn't see the information in western mainstream media, what happensin Pakistan would barely be mentioned unless it was a political assassination or involved a westerner. The protesters (as i am sure you know) were members of TLP, a group which might be described as religious extremists, and what you say re them starting the violence makes sense. Reports i have seen indicatea higger death toll than that. Indian media reported 250 protesterd dead and a number of police officers. Israeli sources say tge death toll was 5.
Bernie Sanders is trying, seeking since 1988 to block arms shipments to Israel. In his latest bill, which all Republicans voted against, he had the majority of Democrats voting to end the arms to Israel. If you do not support his effort to stop arming Israel, you are a traitor to the cause.
Controlled opposition is always "trying" to fail, so you continue to support the same controlled opposition every time. Just now, Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders refused to oppose the sending of air defense and anti-missile systems to Israel - The same systems that allow them to continue with the genocide and atrocities undaunted.
RIGHT ON - CORRECT!!!
Yes, they're giving the finger and taunting the rest of the world. But they know they're not going to get away with it. There will be more and more talk of and international intervention, troops from Colombia and other countries who are not US vassals.
War, using proxies like Ukraine and Israel, is exactly what the US based interests in fossil fuels and arms want to weaken their enemies.
Basil and Chang,
With half a billion dollars coming into the Trump January campaign and the outright ownership of 86% of all those paid for politicians in the USA House and Senate, that is not the support we will ever need to 'stop these people'.
Today, almost nothing has happened in the USA in the way of civil unrest and just look what is happening to the cities by Trump with his National Guard and ICE Police.
What could he do with his powers? There's the problem. He can get away with murder.
Why he has even named Interfa as a terrorist group, clearly making them a target and yet another group now restricted in their agitations for justice.
So perhaps the USA is not the vehicle for a return to humanity.
That leaves the Western puppets. No chance there either, The tentacles of Jewish graft have been in all those corridors for at least two hundred of years. They like it there. Switzerland, France UK, others, all as it was since the beginning of the 20th century.
It is entrenched.
So there's the problem. It was the one thing that Netanyahu was able to rely on. He has the financial support he needs to continue, the military support in the shape of the USA, the weak Western governments and their historical allegiance to the USA and to allow it all happen, the apathy of the American people.
So where do you start a recovery revolution?
Count me in on that question. It amazes me sat they have been allowed to do this for so long. In the beginning it was behind the scenes, mostly, but now it's out in the open so why, why, why has no one stopped it?
Because the government and religions are so good at subtle brain washing of generation after generation.
Not as long as Jews control America's Politicians including the Presidency. Bribery and Blackmail go along way in getting Organized Jewry what it wants.
Give Trump immunity and have him spill the beans just exactly how he is being totally controlled by Israel. He stays out of jail and we learn how he has been totally throttled.
He honestly be to dense, stupid, ignorant, and arrogant to realize there is anything amiss with the world of himself.
100%
This is a Known Known - The Zionist Enemy is the living embodiment of Evil.
Peter Thiel, I think we found the Anti-Christ.
When the entire planet gives you permission to kill for depraved pleasure for close to a century, do you think they fear anyone? Israelis kill for fun. IDF suicides would be much higher if a majority weren't violent psychopaths.
Killing Palestinians any way they can, is the ISRAELI IDF Genocider's favorite Hobby. They don't feel like they are really living unless they are Killing Palestinians
They have been programed to kill Palestinians from birth. Humans aren't born hating others. It's like the song from the musical "South Pacific" says: "You have to be carefully taught...To hate all the people your relatives hate. You have to be taught by 6 or 7 or 8. You have to be carefully taught."
Otherwise seemingly-intelligent people I know are rabid supporters of this extremely evil entity known as 'Israel'. I don't understand it at all, it's actually bizarre.
Intelligence has little to do with morality or values, please don't conflate these separate human characteristics/traits.
Some of these same people are otherwise moral, with values. It is more like they are brainwashed from decades of media.
>>"Some of these same people are otherwise moral, with values."
Exactly! That is why it is a mistake to assume 'intelligence' means morals, values, ethics, beliefs, etc. Intelligence is NOT a stand-in for this, and the correlation is very weak (if it even exists in the first place).
Most humans are brainwashed about something or another. That is what propaganda, indoctrination, and narratives primarily set out to achieve. The flaw seems to be in the human psyche (i.e. psychology) that makes humans hackable and manipulable.
There are methods to overcome this 'propaganda/indoctrination/narratives/beliefs/etc.', but that requires learning critical thinking skills (which takes deliberate effort and few have been willing to invest their time and energy for this). My rough estimation is that 95% of the human population does not possess adequate critical thinking skills (and this % goes higher in online/social-media spaces).
Those seemingly intelligent people are afflicted with a manufactured mental disorder. It's been enthralling them their entire lives. Their minds are full of zionist propaganda and lies. I have a relative like that and years ago I was also a neocon zionist dupe.
How will Trump address the Thunberg situation? Will he be sympathetic or will he skip around the issue? Will he lecture Bibi? Or will he keep kissing Israeli ass?
It's always sexual violence with these people
Sometimes, it’s just sadistic violence .
Like 3rd degree burns over 70% of the body of my brother in a hot bath with his hands tied behind his back. He died one month later at St. Francis Memorial Hospital Burn Unit, S.F. in 1972. See Jacqui and Aaron Schiff https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/a-most-dangerous-method/
Agreed, it seems to be a particularly common occurrence among them. Disgusting behavior, in my view
These are not humans, not in the sense of what we call human. They’re MONSTERS!!😢😞🙁🇵🇸
This does not Surprise me, because Zionism is a Vile Perverted Culture of Sexual Deviants ,Child Molesters, Rapist Perverts ,with a sick obsession for all things of a Sexual Nature.
Zionists are depraved creatures that have crept out of the depths of hell. They are completely soulless!
I am so sorry Greta and the other brave flotilla members had to endure such despicable treatment at the hands of the occupiers. The sexual humiliation is especially grotesque and disgusting, what shameful behavior. And the constant mockery and denial of even basic things like water is disgraceful, and these were international humanitarians, can't imagine what happens to the Palestinians who are imprisoned by the occupiers, I shudder to even think!
I have zero fucks left to give for the state of Israel. Now, or in the future. It is a country ruled by monstrous savages, who are far from being the victims they so frequently claim they are.
And The West is UTTERLY complicit.
The West, ie US based interests in fossil fuels, finance and arms are utterly in control.
Orange freak's only making things easier for the idf cowards and thugs and fascist isrehell. Bought and paid for by the fascists. They can now do any and everything with no consequences, not that they didn't do the same before. Long Live Francesca. The UN. The ICC. Spain. Italy's Football team, Ireland. May (God)bless the people of Palestine.
And, so, what will be done about all this? Is someone going to repeat the joke that “we need to vote better leaders in”?
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"Israel is so evil it’s actually hard to wrap your mind around it."
It is. A Jewish-American reporter from the Thousand Madleens Flotilla also reports she suffered sexual abuse and beatings. Obviously having a Western passport and even being Jewish doesn't prevent humanitarian aid workers from being treated with absolute contempt. Can you imagine how the Palestinian hostages in those prisons have been treated? It's time to pass the Uniting for Peace initiative! More info: https://merijngoeman.substack.com/p/gaza-phase-1-agreement-prospects
I suspect a Jewish American reporter from a Flotilla would have been treated even worse. They would want to punish someone who left the cult.