And at risk of overstating the obvious, yes, Israel's catamites in and out of the United States know full well that this is the plan, and they are entirely on board.
From what I understand from many ex-military experts on u-tube, the US will soon not have the weapons. It's becoming abundantly clear that US cannot manufacture much of anything these days and relies on other countries to supply what they need.
Our military industrial complex supplies both sides of every war. To be more accurate in response to the "rumors" you've heard, is that our satanic government leaders just choose to deplete their own military's surplus because our CIA is the all-time master of coups and generate revenue from bold deception and hide their commissions well.
The US behaves like an infantile brat on many issues because it works - it matches the dumbed down "intellectual" level of the populace. Easiest point of entry.
I don't think the US is on board. They have more important considerations to focus on - the Ukraine proxy war, the potential coming war with China, the US Elections, etc.
If anything, the US (nor Iran) want the conflict to expand in the ME, but Israel does. From what I see - if the US doesn't reign in Israel, Israel will take the US down with it WHEN it falls. You could counter by saying that I am optimistic or unrealistic when I say that Israel is on a downward trajectory towards self-cannibalization. Maybe I am, but I don't see much of a future for Israel based on its current trajectory and actions.
In the US govt, Biden is a dementia patient and Politico reports that the Sullivan is running the show. He is a spook with a long track record of doing the zionists agenda. Blinken is a zionist. Austin is in the MIC and in their pockets too.
None have two brain cells to rub together and yes they are happy to get into WW III.
That's the problem with the US: its not only leaderless, its a zombie kakistocracy.
austin today again confirmed that if iran decides to retaliate for the current murder of a resistance leader, the us will help israel. i don't think it matters that much if 'the us' (if you mean the people) is on board. only team d might be a little reluctant but they will follow. bibi is all out campaigning for trump. the ukraine proxy war is a 'success' (yet again hordes of slavs slaughtered), all ties between europe and russia will be cut for decades to come. the european political gladio educated class is bat-shit insane and ran out of own feet to shoot a while ago (switching to other body parts). killing a resistance leader is also crossing china that just united the palestinian front and us elections really don't matter to 'reality'-building empire managers. imo, israel will only disappear if the people of the world get organised enough to make it happen. it (and things in general) will not just 'happen' on their own and none of the current (or future) political leaders will act, no use waiting.
"israel will only disappear if the people of the world get organised enough to make it happen. it (and things in general) will not just 'happen' on their own and none of the current (or future) political leaders will act, no use waiting."
This last sentence is the money quote here. Our rulers are evil, but they are not stupid or they would not hold their perches for long. They will not just go away but need to be made to go away.
Martin, you assume too much. Thinking objectively, no one really knows exactly how events will play out and what the consequences will be. Everyone has conjectures, hypothesis, predictions, etc., but you seem to come across as being confident in your analysis of exactly how things will play out and what will happen.
We are all laypeople here. We are not in-the-know of everything that's happening at multiple levels in different parts of the world. The scenarios you suggest are but some of many possible event chains, reactions, and counter-reactions. And be careful in believing everything politicians say in public (i.e. your Austin example). When the time comes to make the really hard decisions, people don't always follow up on "public rhetoric" (and history bears this out).
i might assume too much and it is certainly true that we're very much kept in the dark and fed bs, secrecy and opaqueness being empire's important m o. but i do think one can discern certain patterns and hypothesize on the ground of past events. (creativity for creativity's sake is not a m o of empire. if something worked in the past, empire will try to repeat it, maybe try to perfect it). but it is true that i (and many others) often presume empire managers make elaborate plans, think strategically, like chess-players, with objectives set in a further away future, working for abstract notions as 'the country', the 'state', 'the people' (or my favorites 'empire' or 'the system'), while it more looks like a game of prodding and poking (e.g. 'the bear'), provoking, reacting, assessing the reaction, counterreact, etc ... pretty much like the warfare cycle (scott ritter mentioned it, with the art being to disrupt the enemy's decision making cycle). anyways, much more short term than we (i and many others) often incorrectly assume. imo, most european politicians have been drawn into this short term action-reaction game (by mindlessly defending bold american positions) and they have now painted themselves in very tight corner.
austin, the dems, trump, 'the us' also got painted in such a corner regarding israel, imo. i can see no realistic scenario in which these players can meaningfully change course from 'standing with israel' after 'iron clad', 'bye red line', 'seeing rape videos'. public rhetoric (the press) has changed in modern times and is much more 'sticky', imo. recent history bears out that the current generation (of 'leaders' and 'people') is absolutely not up to 'making the really hard decisions' (cfr. the genocide). 'empire' ;-) seems to have found a way around it.
Maybe it's the latest European thing? You capitalize your name but don't bother to capitalize anything else. Why don't you drop punctuation too, so the intent is clear? The intent being "i don't give a fuck" (note "i" there not capitalized).
However, if your keyboard lacks a key usually called "shift" (don't know what it might be called in your European language) then I'll understand.
I thought it was something more appropriate for a Secretary of State to say, with the Secretary of Defense then saying that the US military will then be ready to do what is asked of it.
No, I don't think Sullivan or Blinken have the power/authority that you seem to think they do. Support for Zionism and Israel is bi-partisan and has very deep roots. The America of today is not the America of Ronald Raegan's 1980s. Zionist influence has grown considerably in the US in the last 40 years.
Who knows? History is being written as we talk. It is difficult to predict exactly how events will unfold.
What I have surmised is that a larger conflict is NOT in the interest of the US, Europe, Middle-East countries, or anyone else on earth OTHER THAN Israel. In reality, it does not benefit Israel either (though it may benefit BiBi). But human decisions are not always rational, and there are too many variables and trajectories for a layperson like me to assign probabilities to various scenarios.
I have this fantasy where the earth opens up and the wildly snickering ghost of Josef Goebbels, pointing a finger, declares, "you Zionists are even better bullshiitters than we were . . . and easily as efficient murderers." Then a chorus of trumpets sounds with the appearance of the US congress before the entire entourage is rapidly vortexed into hell.
We'll just have to wait awhile...Israel seems fixated on destroying itself...as usual..Jesus warned them 2,000 years ago not to mess with Rome.."render unto Caesar what is Caesar's", but they committed suicide anyway fighting Rome--a million dead, huge fortune in gold confiscated, and the Diaspora....
Wowie, Zionism & Italian Fascism, etc. Thanks. You are a resource for some interesting stuff. Wish I'd have had some conversations about this with my friend who grew up in Mussolini's Italy before he came over here at 17 to be drafted into the US Army and Korea (but he's since departed these realms). The inescapable talons of authoritarian warmongers.
There’s no other strategy that makes sense other than force the US to fight the war for them. The only options they have are to make peace (which they only give lip service to) or push it to the limit and pray the US bombs Iran for them. Their rock bottom belief they’re smarter than everyone else and can manipulate their dumb ally (as they have so far) into getting everything they want will be their undoing.
Next up: BiBi will claim Iran is days away from having a nuclear weapon.
I think you may want to consider that some components of the balance of forces may have changed, and that a time when the previously-existing balance may soon be tested in a serious and consequential way. I have been trying to guess when the current springs will be unwound, and a moment when the political structure of the US. ruling class is divided and possibly waiting for a signal -- or a symbol -- might be a good bet. In our political calendar, that is often referred to as a "surprise" named after a month close to an election. It's just a guess, of course.
In the assassination Olympics, Israel and the US are vying for the gold. The UK might qualify for a bronze medal.
The world will be so much better off when those three aggressor states collapse into disarmed, broken, poor countries competing for foreign handouts and investments.
Jenny my brother told me a funny story. Post WWI, the Germans in cities had no food and would barter with the farmers for food. Suddenly all these farm wives were seen wearing expensive jewelry!
I’ve already decided that if necessary, I’ll run a livery. I have room for several horses here.
Like the role Ukraine plays now as they launder money to their Rothschild/Blackrock overlords and pay investment dividends to American politicians that have resided at the heart of Ukraine's great human trafficking industrial base for decades
That may be true, but the question is how long, and hence how many more lives elsewhere (as that shithole entity disguising itself as a country under the name of "Israel" projects its depravity throughout the world) it's going to take.
No one wants to press forward to do away with the empire, for understandable reasons - who personally would want to take such responsibility and guarantee results? So they engage time as a triggering variable to decide for them.
In the UK we have to endure Starmer literally being told what to do by the Chief Rabbi. We don’t have a democracy here although most people, being led by the lying Zionist press and the BBC, are under the impression we do, and if the USA attack Iran I’m sure the Starmerites will be slobbering with eagerness to help them. It helps to remember when dealing with all this that one of the Jewish holy books literally says only Jews are truly human, that is only Jews, not Zionists.
If I was an American sailor or Navy airman in that region, I'd seriously consider "Accidentally" launching missiles at the Knesset or his residence at Balfour st.
It's just plain self interest - as well as following your oath to protect your OWN country, not this nest of Nazis thousands of miles away.
I agree. There are ships sailing towards the coast of Lebanon and every member on them should say that they won’t fight Israel's wars anymore. The wars on Iraq, Libya, Syria, ect were not to make America safe, but to make Israel the only super power in the Middle East. And for stealing resources. Israeli troops got to sit and watch as Americans died for them.
Israel is pushing his USA-daddy to go into a war against Iran as it has for years. Is Iran going to be as usual the "adult in the room"? Frankly, I hope not because I am angry for this entity will get away with all its crime.
I lived in 1985 its arrogant attack on Tunisian land by a F16 striking a house in Tunis south suburb where Palestinians who left Lebanon on 1982 were living. They thought Arafat was there, and Palestinians and Tunisians were killed.
They have assassinated in Tunis north suburb, Abu Jihad (1988) and Abu Iyad (1991), 2 prominent PLO leaders.
The list of assassinations, the cowards way, is long, and it was always backed by the USA.
The irony is - this author (Ronen Bergman) is an Israeli that boasts/lauds about Israel and its assasinations and Foreign Policy decisions. Like CJ said in her previous post, Israeli society is SICK!
With all the rest of the stuff flying out of the fan, in Lebanon and Teheran, we can't forget the Palestinians in Gaza. 86% of Gazans under an evacuation order when there's no safe place to go. There must be an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Pope Francis has said what is needed, now he must do what is needed by going to Gaza and standing for peace, justice and freedom.
It seems Netanyahu would do absolutely anything to stay in power and not face a judge and jury of his own countrymen - further prolonging this dystopian nightmare for the Palestinians…Now the ‘negotiations’ can’t continue - and are we actually sure it wasn’t Israel who killed the kids in the Golan heights? I read it’s not Hezbollah’s modus operandi to kill kids - plus these were Arab children ….. ??
following the earlier israeli strike on palestinian soccer game, the victims being syrian druze, and the provocative search for a casus belli it seemed a pretty deliberate Israeli false flag though.
“Israel does not seek war” but “the IDF remains prepared to respond to any attack by Hezbollah.” Sounds a lot like a republican “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”
I guess the takeaway from the adulation Netanyahu received from US Congress recently is that "Israel" can do anything it wants. It is likely fear of USA and Israel's nukes that is restraining both Hezbollah and Iran from responding in kind. Both of whom could each separately destroy Israel conventionally. Turkey might be the wild card, if it has actually received nukes in secret from Pakistan.
Nothing secret about it, Snow. Pakistan has publicly said it would supply Turkiye with nukes. The problem is that Erdogan can’t make up his mind regarding involvement.
It's hard to believe Israel would do this without American direction or approval. It seems likely that the US establishment is trying to start a global war or, at least, regional wars in all parts of the globe (Venezuela will be next). It's also hard to believe that if Iran responds in any significant way and the USA gets involved, that Russia, and possibly China, will not feel compelled to support Iran.
The WW3 is inevitable in my opinion. It will go to the point when RF/China/NK/Pakistan are about to push "red buttons". Only then the zionists in charge of US will scream and say "Why can't we just get along". The humanity will have to chose - the planet or israel. There is no other solution.
Tried and true, believe people who tell you who they are. How many times has Israel told where Gazans should go for safety and when they go there, the Israelis have bombed them? Isn’t trust earned? Exactly what has Israel done that earns the world’s trust? As for the USA. The Israeli leach has fastened itself on Blinken, Biden and Sullivan so tightly the Americans have become Israelicans - as for the American public? They are obviously inconsequential to the Israelicans. Or worthwhile to the extent to which the Israelican domestic propaganda succeeds in bending (breaking?) infotainmentized brains soaked in AIPAC soaked BS about “all the world is always against little old, poor rich us victims” to vote ignorance over reality.
Meanwhile, Israel appears close to a civil war between the fanatics who think raping and torturing prisoners is just fine (as long as they're Palestinian) and the regular army...Stay tuned...
Bibi knows he would lose a war with Hezbollah, but wants it anyway for precisely the reasons Caitlin gives...he's desperate...
If you read between the lines, the answer is obvious. Do whatever is needed to draw the U.S. in so Israel can dominate the region. Israel wants all of the land from the river to the sea and beyond and they are going to push the envelope as far as they can to bring the Americans in behind them.
What few people understand, is that the U.S. is broke. They don't have the industrial capacity to supply Israel with all of the munitions and equipment needed for a regional war. The United States is trying to downplay this as much as possible. What stories about this that have leaked are hard to find now. The U.S. government is so divided on this that one hand is not paying attention to the other. The Pentagon is saying we can't so this but the war hawks in congress, and Biden, aren't listening.
Push is going to come to shove and the U.S. is going to have to put up or shut up very soon. it's anyone's guess on how that is going to work out. Will the Pentagon chiefs of staff get together and demand the administration and congress pay attention soon?
There are actually but they are afraid for their jobs a little bit. If there is one thing I know from my own military career, is that there is a red line at some point. It is usually when American troops are headed into harms way for nothing. We all know what happened in 2003 and beyond because we were lied to. The Pentagon is not about to let that happen again. In this case, putting boots on the ground in Gaza or staging in Israel for a ground invasion of Lebanon would be a huge mistake and the joint chiefs know this. Any support for Israel would be from the naval assets and Air Force. Which comes back to the U.S. not having enough munitions to overcome Hezbollah. Israel will be leveled and the U.S. will not be able to stop it. Hezbollah has been preparing for this for decades. Since the disaster of 1982-1983. You have to know that they have been preparing their defenses and offenses knowing that the Americans would be involved. Much like the Japanese and Germans did in WWII to fend off the allies. Look at what that cost in manpower and equipment. No one in the west has the stomach for anything close to that.
The U.S. knows just how prepared they are and that is one of the reasons they are trying to stop Israel from jumping out like rabid dogs. The world is waiting to see how that is going to work out. There is a lot riding on all of this. And not just here in the U.S.
Only the politicians are owned by the Israelis. The military is an entity of their own, sort of. They are restricted by the politicians but U.S. law gives them an out if the orders given put soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines in harms way with no valid reason, other than some politician says so. This is one of the check's and balances of the U.S. government. It works as long as the joint chiefs use common sense and not blind loyalty. Something Donald Trump will most surely change if he takes office. This may be a real test for the United States.
I am retired Army so I know about what the UCMJ says regarding obeying orders from our superior officers. As for Donald Trump is concerned, he has said numerous times that he is going to get rid of any government employees who are not blindly loyal to him. That would have to include the joint chiefs of staff and the majority of the general officer corp. in the military. To be replaced with officers he deems sufficiently loyal to him in every way.
Iran appears to be militarily impotent. Their leader talks tough, but Iran doesn't have the strength to hit back. Israel is well-armed, of course, by you know who. I don't see what Iran can do without help. The Empire seems to want a war on a large scale.
Iran is a country looking for the prosperity of its people in the midst of a Western embargo, and continuous attack from the armed branch of the USA, Israel. It is not impotence, it is patience.
Iran is using proxies all over the region, spreading death, destruction and in the case if Israel, genocide. Iran started war against the US in 1979. I remember how hopeful my Iranian friends were in 1978 and into 1979 protesting for the revolution. And how appalled they were when the theocratic reality of the dictatorship became apparent.
Israel is the country that is military impotent. Almost year of mass muder and they have not defeated Hamas.
Iran is exercising restraint on a level that no, the murderous colonial empire does not understand. They see it as "weakness" to not do stupid things like destroying your opponent in a war in which they would destroy you too.
Ironically we are then fed the lie that it's the colonialists who can safely own nuclear weapons, yes the the type of people who nuked Japan twice for show. But not Iran. Right.
I suggest you start watching former weapons inspector and Marine Lieutenant Scott Ritter, who knows combat capabilities better than anyone on the planet.
Iran could wipe out IsraHell in a matter of minutes.
Okay. You sound very confident. I don't won't people to die. Past military history would suggest Iran isn't ready, but war can bring about surprises. We'll see what happens if a larger conflict breaks out.
I am to a point after following the ITisreal brutality against the Pals and surrounding countries for 35 years that the only chance for peace in the Mideast and really the world is IT being eradicated. IT wants a war with Iran so badly and I believe that would be the end of IT. Of course Sam will defend its monster and Iran will be devastated but IT will be as well. Putin has clearly warned that Russia’s missiles can reach the US ships riding shotgun on the genocide. So there is that potential as well.
It shouldn’t give me pleasure or relief contemplating the destruction of IT but it does. The destruction of Iran, Lebanon and the start of WW3 prevents me from actively praying for the destruction of IT. I sincerely hope and pray there is another way but cannot see any at the present time.
Zeev Maoz's book "Defending the Holy Land" covers Israels' diplomacy & security policies since WW2. Norman Finkelstein recommends it as an indispensable reading. The bottom line - according to documents Israel always avoided diplomacy and preferred aggression.
It is abundantly obvious that Israel seeks to provoke Hezbollah into reacting so that Israel can run screaming to its American thug.
If Israel does not get the reaction it seeks, then it simply provokes further.
And at risk of overstating the obvious, yes, Israel's catamites in and out of the United States know full well that this is the plan, and they are entirely on board.
From what I understand from many ex-military experts on u-tube, the US will soon not have the weapons. It's becoming abundantly clear that US cannot manufacture much of anything these days and relies on other countries to supply what they need.
Roll on BRICS
We've been hearing that one for years now.
I see that the US is already stockpiling additional weapons and munitions for a war on China.
Well if you've been hearing it for years it's probably true.
Or wishful thinking.
Maybe you should listen more to ex-military?
Feral. Something I have learned about you is that you are an old American/flagwaving shill.
YOU constantly (in your comments to me) raise the question of France because you know I live here.
This disgusts me because we fought hard in 2 election (which took maybe 2 months) to get together. Fighting Marine Le Pen.
Your 'moneyed elections' take years...why?
3rd or 4th time we took Le Pen out.
I really do not care much about your constant anti-Europe stance because mostly I agree.
Things are changing here: Italy wants to join BRICS..good.
IF you think the USA has saved Europe....why?
COERCION is not a word you know.
I love you Jenny (especially since you're in France) but come on! Feral is a well-behaved cat but still a cat! Are you familiar with cats?
Hardly, and I could not care less about your oelr anyone's opinions.
I do try, however, to be a realist. Even if I'd prefer that the truth were otherwise.
latest i heard was drone swarms in the taiwan strait.
Our military industrial complex supplies both sides of every war. To be more accurate in response to the "rumors" you've heard, is that our satanic government leaders just choose to deplete their own military's surplus because our CIA is the all-time master of coups and generate revenue from bold deception and hide their commissions well.
It is amusing (to put it mildly) that the US belittles Russia for obtaining weapons from other countries.
The US behaves like an infantile brat on many issues because it works - it matches the dumbed down "intellectual" level of the populace. Easiest point of entry.
Exactly.
(I'm visiting my 88 year-old mother, and as I type right now, I can vaguely hear the "news analysts" droning on in the next room.)
And the fiat is a wrap! The can has been kicked down the road long enough!
>>"and they are entirely on board"
I don't think the US is on board. They have more important considerations to focus on - the Ukraine proxy war, the potential coming war with China, the US Elections, etc.
If anything, the US (nor Iran) want the conflict to expand in the ME, but Israel does. From what I see - if the US doesn't reign in Israel, Israel will take the US down with it WHEN it falls. You could counter by saying that I am optimistic or unrealistic when I say that Israel is on a downward trajectory towards self-cannibalization. Maybe I am, but I don't see much of a future for Israel based on its current trajectory and actions.
"The US" is not a monolithic entity.
In the US govt, Biden is a dementia patient and Politico reports that the Sullivan is running the show. He is a spook with a long track record of doing the zionists agenda. Blinken is a zionist. Austin is in the MIC and in their pockets too.
None have two brain cells to rub together and yes they are happy to get into WW III.
That's the problem with the US: its not only leaderless, its a zombie kakistocracy.
austin today again confirmed that if iran decides to retaliate for the current murder of a resistance leader, the us will help israel. i don't think it matters that much if 'the us' (if you mean the people) is on board. only team d might be a little reluctant but they will follow. bibi is all out campaigning for trump. the ukraine proxy war is a 'success' (yet again hordes of slavs slaughtered), all ties between europe and russia will be cut for decades to come. the european political gladio educated class is bat-shit insane and ran out of own feet to shoot a while ago (switching to other body parts). killing a resistance leader is also crossing china that just united the palestinian front and us elections really don't matter to 'reality'-building empire managers. imo, israel will only disappear if the people of the world get organised enough to make it happen. it (and things in general) will not just 'happen' on their own and none of the current (or future) political leaders will act, no use waiting.
"israel will only disappear if the people of the world get organised enough to make it happen. it (and things in general) will not just 'happen' on their own and none of the current (or future) political leaders will act, no use waiting."
This last sentence is the money quote here. Our rulers are evil, but they are not stupid or they would not hold their perches for long. They will not just go away but need to be made to go away.
Martin, you assume too much. Thinking objectively, no one really knows exactly how events will play out and what the consequences will be. Everyone has conjectures, hypothesis, predictions, etc., but you seem to come across as being confident in your analysis of exactly how things will play out and what will happen.
We are all laypeople here. We are not in-the-know of everything that's happening at multiple levels in different parts of the world. The scenarios you suggest are but some of many possible event chains, reactions, and counter-reactions. And be careful in believing everything politicians say in public (i.e. your Austin example). When the time comes to make the really hard decisions, people don't always follow up on "public rhetoric" (and history bears this out).
i might assume too much and it is certainly true that we're very much kept in the dark and fed bs, secrecy and opaqueness being empire's important m o. but i do think one can discern certain patterns and hypothesize on the ground of past events. (creativity for creativity's sake is not a m o of empire. if something worked in the past, empire will try to repeat it, maybe try to perfect it). but it is true that i (and many others) often presume empire managers make elaborate plans, think strategically, like chess-players, with objectives set in a further away future, working for abstract notions as 'the country', the 'state', 'the people' (or my favorites 'empire' or 'the system'), while it more looks like a game of prodding and poking (e.g. 'the bear'), provoking, reacting, assessing the reaction, counterreact, etc ... pretty much like the warfare cycle (scott ritter mentioned it, with the art being to disrupt the enemy's decision making cycle). anyways, much more short term than we (i and many others) often incorrectly assume. imo, most european politicians have been drawn into this short term action-reaction game (by mindlessly defending bold american positions) and they have now painted themselves in very tight corner.
austin, the dems, trump, 'the us' also got painted in such a corner regarding israel, imo. i can see no realistic scenario in which these players can meaningfully change course from 'standing with israel' after 'iron clad', 'bye red line', 'seeing rape videos'. public rhetoric (the press) has changed in modern times and is much more 'sticky', imo. recent history bears out that the current generation (of 'leaders' and 'people') is absolutely not up to 'making the really hard decisions' (cfr. the genocide). 'empire' ;-) seems to have found a way around it.
Hey Martin - gotta step in for chokaski here.
Maybe it's the latest European thing? You capitalize your name but don't bother to capitalize anything else. Why don't you drop punctuation too, so the intent is clear? The intent being "i don't give a fuck" (note "i" there not capitalized).
However, if your keyboard lacks a key usually called "shift" (don't know what it might be called in your European language) then I'll understand.
Actually, I didn't read your original post as making any predictions, only offering observations.
I also noticed Austin's comment.
I thought it was something more appropriate for a Secretary of State to say, with the Secretary of Defense then saying that the US military will then be ready to do what is asked of it.
Who's in charge here?
You don't think a Sullivan or Blinken cannot tell anyone in Israel that if they insist on starting a war, then they are on their own?
Meanwhile, the US is sending more Marines and the Wasp to the Middle East.
No, I don't think Sullivan or Blinken have the power/authority that you seem to think they do. Support for Zionism and Israel is bi-partisan and has very deep roots. The America of today is not the America of Ronald Raegan's 1980s. Zionist influence has grown considerably in the US in the last 40 years.
Mate, the US has no leaders. Biden is senile. Jake Sullivan is running the Biden Admin, according to Politico. Matters not what you think.
So, State is going to let Israel start a war that the US cannot or will extricate Israel from?
Who knows? History is being written as we talk. It is difficult to predict exactly how events will unfold.
What I have surmised is that a larger conflict is NOT in the interest of the US, Europe, Middle-East countries, or anyone else on earth OTHER THAN Israel. In reality, it does not benefit Israel either (though it may benefit BiBi). But human decisions are not always rational, and there are too many variables and trajectories for a layperson like me to assign probabilities to various scenarios.
EXCELLENT commentary/article! Thank you!💥
I have this fantasy where the earth opens up and the wildly snickering ghost of Josef Goebbels, pointing a finger, declares, "you Zionists are even better bullshiitters than we were . . . and easily as efficient murderers." Then a chorus of trumpets sounds with the appearance of the US congress before the entire entourage is rapidly vortexed into hell.
We'll just have to wait awhile...Israel seems fixated on destroying itself...as usual..Jesus warned them 2,000 years ago not to mess with Rome.."render unto Caesar what is Caesar's", but they committed suicide anyway fighting Rome--a million dead, huge fortune in gold confiscated, and the Diaspora....
Nazis knew it pretty well at the time. Lenni Brenner backs it up in his "Zionism in the age of the dictators" : https://archive.org/details/zionisminageofdi0000bren
Wowie, Zionism & Italian Fascism, etc. Thanks. You are a resource for some interesting stuff. Wish I'd have had some conversations about this with my friend who grew up in Mussolini's Italy before he came over here at 17 to be drafted into the US Army and Korea (but he's since departed these realms). The inescapable talons of authoritarian warmongers.
I got that name from some lady in this very forum months back. The book has tons of references for further explorations.
His other one is "51 Zionist Nazi collaboration documents": https://archive.org/details/lenni-brenner-51-documents-zionist-collaboration-with-the-nazis/
Read "The Passage to San Cristobal of A.H" which more or less says that.
Thanks. Looks like it's titled "The Portage to San Cristobal of A.H." Might have to check it out.
I am thinking of the black hole where nothing escapes. Lebanon is on the event horizon.
There’s no other strategy that makes sense other than force the US to fight the war for them. The only options they have are to make peace (which they only give lip service to) or push it to the limit and pray the US bombs Iran for them. Their rock bottom belief they’re smarter than everyone else and can manipulate their dumb ally (as they have so far) into getting everything they want will be their undoing.
Next up: BiBi will claim Iran is days away from having a nuclear weapon.
Bibi already has made this claim, and yes, the US will attack Iran on their behalf.
Israel need not pray, their wish will soon be granted.
Sadly I agree with this statement.
I wish I didn't.
We're all thinking it - false flag on US soil to prod final solution. Both countries are ready to go. Impatient, even.
It's coming...
I think you may want to consider that some components of the balance of forces may have changed, and that a time when the previously-existing balance may soon be tested in a serious and consequential way. I have been trying to guess when the current springs will be unwound, and a moment when the political structure of the US. ruling class is divided and possibly waiting for a signal -- or a symbol -- might be a good bet. In our political calendar, that is often referred to as a "surprise" named after a month close to an election. It's just a guess, of course.
We'll see, but we've been hearing similar predictions for years now.
In the assassination Olympics, Israel and the US are vying for the gold. The UK might qualify for a bronze medal.
The world will be so much better off when those three aggressor states collapse into disarmed, broken, poor countries competing for foreign handouts and investments.
We’re headed there, Nabil.
Can’t come soon enough.
Got my 'killing pills' ready....cats/dog/me/husband.
Jenny my brother told me a funny story. Post WWI, the Germans in cities had no food and would barter with the farmers for food. Suddenly all these farm wives were seen wearing expensive jewelry!
I’ve already decided that if necessary, I’ll run a livery. I have room for several horses here.
Me too, Jenny. I have huge bottles of Seroquel.
Though living on a farm, I’ll do better than others. I’ve been busting my ass canning!
Problem is: How do we know if there is a false flag, do we wait till we start burning up or not being able to breathe properly!
We’ll figure it out Jenny. We have good instincts.
And if we need to go in a hurry, hubs and I have several functioning weapons.
We don't and you are miles away.................
I think after today you should insert Feral in front.
Like the role Ukraine plays now as they launder money to their Rothschild/Blackrock overlords and pay investment dividends to American politicians that have resided at the heart of Ukraine's great human trafficking industrial base for decades
Ukraine has openly stated they wanted to be like Israel. And Israel has been fully involved in it becoming such.
Agreed.
Of course the world would be better off without all three. The question is who will do it.
At the rate they are going, especially Israel, they may just implode as they try to take on the world.
That may be true, but the question is how long, and hence how many more lives elsewhere (as that shithole entity disguising itself as a country under the name of "Israel" projects its depravity throughout the world) it's going to take.
No one wants to press forward to do away with the empire, for understandable reasons - who personally would want to take such responsibility and guarantee results? So they engage time as a triggering variable to decide for them.
Possibly Mother Earth and/or the spirits of the many murdered indigenous and enslaved peoples will take their revenge in one way or another.
In the UK we have to endure Starmer literally being told what to do by the Chief Rabbi. We don’t have a democracy here although most people, being led by the lying Zionist press and the BBC, are under the impression we do, and if the USA attack Iran I’m sure the Starmerites will be slobbering with eagerness to help them. It helps to remember when dealing with all this that one of the Jewish holy books literally says only Jews are truly human, that is only Jews, not Zionists.
@Nabil
The issue of several nuclear armed states collapsing is fraught- Be careful what you wish for, you might get it
We can always put their nukes on e-bay.
If I was an American sailor or Navy airman in that region, I'd seriously consider "Accidentally" launching missiles at the Knesset or his residence at Balfour st.
It's just plain self interest - as well as following your oath to protect your OWN country, not this nest of Nazis thousands of miles away.
I agree. There are ships sailing towards the coast of Lebanon and every member on them should say that they won’t fight Israel's wars anymore. The wars on Iraq, Libya, Syria, ect were not to make America safe, but to make Israel the only super power in the Middle East. And for stealing resources. Israeli troops got to sit and watch as Americans died for them.
In the spirit of USS Liberty.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Israel is pushing his USA-daddy to go into a war against Iran as it has for years. Is Iran going to be as usual the "adult in the room"? Frankly, I hope not because I am angry for this entity will get away with all its crime.
I lived in 1985 its arrogant attack on Tunisian land by a F16 striking a house in Tunis south suburb where Palestinians who left Lebanon on 1982 were living. They thought Arafat was there, and Palestinians and Tunisians were killed.
They have assassinated in Tunis north suburb, Abu Jihad (1988) and Abu Iyad (1991), 2 prominent PLO leaders.
The list of assassinations, the cowards way, is long, and it was always backed by the USA.
Check out this book: "Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations" (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33598223-rise-and-kill-first) for more sordid and gory details of what Israel really is.
The irony is - this author (Ronen Bergman) is an Israeli that boasts/lauds about Israel and its assasinations and Foreign Policy decisions. Like CJ said in her previous post, Israeli society is SICK!
It's all bidding done for the House of Rothschild. Except for Bibi Netanyahu. I truly believe that psychopath just thoroughly enjoys mass killing
Staunchly anti-peace.
With all the rest of the stuff flying out of the fan, in Lebanon and Teheran, we can't forget the Palestinians in Gaza. 86% of Gazans under an evacuation order when there's no safe place to go. There must be an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Pope Francis has said what is needed, now he must do what is needed by going to Gaza and standing for peace, justice and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Let us also support UNRWA. If our governments won’t act in accordance with humanity, then we will. https://www.unrwausa.org/donate
Also we can all support the brave doctors who have gone to Gaza: https://palestinian-ama.networkforgood.com/projects/206145-gaza-medical-supplies-oct-2023
Or
Surgeons to Gaza
https://fajr.org/donate/
Let us make our donations to honor Aaron Bushnell, or in memory of Hind Rajab.
Here’s a petition to excommunicate Joe Biden: https://www.change.org/p/excommunicate-president-joe-biden-bf979783-ac08-4576-a53f-c786ea23dc9c
These are a few small things we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
It seems Netanyahu would do absolutely anything to stay in power and not face a judge and jury of his own countrymen - further prolonging this dystopian nightmare for the Palestinians…Now the ‘negotiations’ can’t continue - and are we actually sure it wasn’t Israel who killed the kids in the Golan heights? I read it’s not Hezbollah’s modus operandi to kill kids - plus these were Arab children ….. ??
A misfired Iron Dome rocket, according to witnesses, Judy.
following the earlier israeli strike on palestinian soccer game, the victims being syrian druze, and the provocative search for a casus belli it seemed a pretty deliberate Israeli false flag though.
“Israel does not seek war” Israel does not have to seek war. They create it whenever they can.
“Israel does not seek war” but “the IDF remains prepared to respond to any attack by Hezbollah.” Sounds a lot like a republican “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”
I guess the takeaway from the adulation Netanyahu received from US Congress recently is that "Israel" can do anything it wants. It is likely fear of USA and Israel's nukes that is restraining both Hezbollah and Iran from responding in kind. Both of whom could each separately destroy Israel conventionally. Turkey might be the wild card, if it has actually received nukes in secret from Pakistan.
Nothing secret about it, Snow. Pakistan has publicly said it would supply Turkiye with nukes. The problem is that Erdogan can’t make up his mind regarding involvement.
Erdogan is all bark. He has been threatening Israel for 9 months and yet he hasn’t followed through.
Reminds me of:
"The dogs bark, but the caravan keeps rolling."
Erdogan has never been able to make up his mind BUT it's not surprising being it is right on the crossroad of Europe and the East.
It's hard to believe Israel would do this without American direction or approval. It seems likely that the US establishment is trying to start a global war or, at least, regional wars in all parts of the globe (Venezuela will be next). It's also hard to believe that if Iran responds in any significant way and the USA gets involved, that Russia, and possibly China, will not feel compelled to support Iran.
The WW3 is inevitable in my opinion. It will go to the point when RF/China/NK/Pakistan are about to push "red buttons". Only then the zionists in charge of US will scream and say "Why can't we just get along". The humanity will have to chose - the planet or israel. There is no other solution.
Ron Stockton. Netanyahu is America.
Tried and true, believe people who tell you who they are. How many times has Israel told where Gazans should go for safety and when they go there, the Israelis have bombed them? Isn’t trust earned? Exactly what has Israel done that earns the world’s trust? As for the USA. The Israeli leach has fastened itself on Blinken, Biden and Sullivan so tightly the Americans have become Israelicans - as for the American public? They are obviously inconsequential to the Israelicans. Or worthwhile to the extent to which the Israelican domestic propaganda succeeds in bending (breaking?) infotainmentized brains soaked in AIPAC soaked BS about “all the world is always against little old, poor rich us victims” to vote ignorance over reality.
Meanwhile, Israel appears close to a civil war between the fanatics who think raping and torturing prisoners is just fine (as long as they're Palestinian) and the regular army...Stay tuned...
Bibi knows he would lose a war with Hezbollah, but wants it anyway for precisely the reasons Caitlin gives...he's desperate...
I see that the Israeli government has backed down, which is presumably the result that they wanted.
If you read between the lines, the answer is obvious. Do whatever is needed to draw the U.S. in so Israel can dominate the region. Israel wants all of the land from the river to the sea and beyond and they are going to push the envelope as far as they can to bring the Americans in behind them.
What few people understand, is that the U.S. is broke. They don't have the industrial capacity to supply Israel with all of the munitions and equipment needed for a regional war. The United States is trying to downplay this as much as possible. What stories about this that have leaked are hard to find now. The U.S. government is so divided on this that one hand is not paying attention to the other. The Pentagon is saying we can't so this but the war hawks in congress, and Biden, aren't listening.
Push is going to come to shove and the U.S. is going to have to put up or shut up very soon. it's anyone's guess on how that is going to work out. Will the Pentagon chiefs of staff get together and demand the administration and congress pay attention soon?
Just reiterated this above...........absolutely correct.
Are there any clever Pentagon chiefs?
There are actually but they are afraid for their jobs a little bit. If there is one thing I know from my own military career, is that there is a red line at some point. It is usually when American troops are headed into harms way for nothing. We all know what happened in 2003 and beyond because we were lied to. The Pentagon is not about to let that happen again. In this case, putting boots on the ground in Gaza or staging in Israel for a ground invasion of Lebanon would be a huge mistake and the joint chiefs know this. Any support for Israel would be from the naval assets and Air Force. Which comes back to the U.S. not having enough munitions to overcome Hezbollah. Israel will be leveled and the U.S. will not be able to stop it. Hezbollah has been preparing for this for decades. Since the disaster of 1982-1983. You have to know that they have been preparing their defenses and offenses knowing that the Americans would be involved. Much like the Japanese and Germans did in WWII to fend off the allies. Look at what that cost in manpower and equipment. No one in the west has the stomach for anything close to that.
The U.S. knows just how prepared they are and that is one of the reasons they are trying to stop Israel from jumping out like rabid dogs. The world is waiting to see how that is going to work out. There is a lot riding on all of this. And not just here in the U.S.
Excellent commentary.
DO you REALLY believe the US has these options?
US is owned by Israel.
As a child from the Colonial British Empire when things were disintegrating I remember the absolute HATE the Indians had for the British.
The British dragged the Indians into WW2. Put them in the front lines.
Brown people did not matter to them.
Only the politicians are owned by the Israelis. The military is an entity of their own, sort of. They are restricted by the politicians but U.S. law gives them an out if the orders given put soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines in harms way with no valid reason, other than some politician says so. This is one of the check's and balances of the U.S. government. It works as long as the joint chiefs use common sense and not blind loyalty. Something Donald Trump will most surely change if he takes office. This may be a real test for the United States.
Terrance.
YOU really believe this?
I am retired Army so I know about what the UCMJ says regarding obeying orders from our superior officers. As for Donald Trump is concerned, he has said numerous times that he is going to get rid of any government employees who are not blindly loyal to him. That would have to include the joint chiefs of staff and the majority of the general officer corp. in the military. To be replaced with officers he deems sufficiently loyal to him in every way.
Iran appears to be militarily impotent. Their leader talks tough, but Iran doesn't have the strength to hit back. Israel is well-armed, of course, by you know who. I don't see what Iran can do without help. The Empire seems to want a war on a large scale.
Iran is a country looking for the prosperity of its people in the midst of a Western embargo, and continuous attack from the armed branch of the USA, Israel. It is not impotence, it is patience.
Iran us a kleptocratic, theocratic tyranny that impoverishes its own people to sustain its imperialistic murderous dreams
Sounds like the USA.
Great reply, Dx!
Sounds like a pahlevi monarchist apologist.
Not hardly. But you are clearly an apologist for a theocratic tyranny.
The last time Iran invaded another country was in the 18th century, when it was called "Persia".
Contrast the record of the peace- and freedom-loving United States since that time.
Iran is using proxies all over the region, spreading death, destruction and in the case if Israel, genocide. Iran started war against the US in 1979. I remember how hopeful my Iranian friends were in 1978 and into 1979 protesting for the revolution. And how appalled they were when the theocratic reality of the dictatorship became apparent.
So explain what a "proxy" is and how it is different from an "ally".
"my Iranian friends" 🤣🤡 - keep your ass steaming so you could be pulling shit out of it now that Jojo is gone.
Excuse me but this is NOT your business.
I am sure Iran feels the same way about the US
This is no less your business than mine.
Explain how Iran is any different from the United Snakes, which is fully controlled by Zionazis, fool.
Israel is the country that is military impotent. Almost year of mass muder and they have not defeated Hamas.
Iran is exercising restraint on a level that no, the murderous colonial empire does not understand. They see it as "weakness" to not do stupid things like destroying your opponent in a war in which they would destroy you too.
Ironically we are then fed the lie that it's the colonialists who can safely own nuclear weapons, yes the the type of people who nuked Japan twice for show. But not Iran. Right.
Wow, Louis are you EVER misinformed.
I suggest you start watching former weapons inspector and Marine Lieutenant Scott Ritter, who knows combat capabilities better than anyone on the planet.
Iran could wipe out IsraHell in a matter of minutes.
And I hope it does.
Okay. You sound very confident. I don't won't people to die. Past military history would suggest Iran isn't ready, but war can bring about surprises. We'll see what happens if a larger conflict breaks out.
What past history, Louis?
Read Feral’s comment above.
Thanks for removing your mask of civility and removing all doubt.
Oh, there ain’t NUTHIN civil about me, pal! 😂
True, but the US would retaliate and kill how many in Iran? Iran is in a tough place. Unless China or Russia step in.
To retaliate the US would have to send aircraft carriers many leagues, they would be picked up before they got near.
Debbie, Iran is part of the Shanghai Alliance. Sorta like an Asian NATO.
Russia and China have already committed to not sitting idly if Iran is attacked.
Israel (even with US backing) will be mullered by Hezbollah, Yemen and Iran (even without Russian backing).
You have been in an echo chamber for a really long time.
You have been delusional for a really long time.
So says someone who boasts about their lack of civility.
I think you are a bit behind the times Louis Moore. Very likely Iran will have Russian backing.
Of course, that's a possibility, but it's speculation.
Yes it is but by people who have knowledge and international repute.
It is NOT speculation. As I mentioned in a previous post, Iran is part of the Shanghai Alliance.
I am to a point after following the ITisreal brutality against the Pals and surrounding countries for 35 years that the only chance for peace in the Mideast and really the world is IT being eradicated. IT wants a war with Iran so badly and I believe that would be the end of IT. Of course Sam will defend its monster and Iran will be devastated but IT will be as well. Putin has clearly warned that Russia’s missiles can reach the US ships riding shotgun on the genocide. So there is that potential as well.
It shouldn’t give me pleasure or relief contemplating the destruction of IT but it does. The destruction of Iran, Lebanon and the start of WW3 prevents me from actively praying for the destruction of IT. I sincerely hope and pray there is another way but cannot see any at the present time.
IT?
Short for ITisreal which is a term for country without declared borders that has been massacring children for ten months
Zeev Maoz's book "Defending the Holy Land" covers Israels' diplomacy & security policies since WW2. Norman Finkelstein recommends it as an indispensable reading. The bottom line - according to documents Israel always avoided diplomacy and preferred aggression.
Thank you for the book suggestion. Seems like a very interesting and informative read.