You should care about indoctrination. It's the central theme of Ms. Johnstone's writing. People are taught (and learn) what is right and wrong. And everyone is capable of appalling behavior.
Untrue. I have never exhibited what could be construed as “appalling behavior” except through words, perhaps.
And I have a number of friends whose parents came up from the South to work in the auto industry; they overcame their parents’ inherent racism.
People actually ARE capable of change; they frequently don’t wish to. The vampires inhabiting IsraHell are not capable, because vampires are gonna vampire.
Of course people are capable of change, just as they are capable of self-restraint against destructive impulses (most of the time, and with exceptions for some people with brain damage). I'm happy to hear that you have never exhibited appalling behavior; that does not mean you lack the capacity.
Racism is not inherent, so your friends did not overcome 'their parents' inherent racism'. Racism is learned and can be unlearned. Even if, as you say, people tend to get rigid in their attitudes as they age. They are most flexible when young and adopt their life philosophies in late adolescence. Military people understand this and prefer to recruit men in their late teens or early twenties.
When you describe Israelis as vampires, you are dehumanizing them in just the same way that they dehumanize Palestinians as vermin. That is not helpful.
Behavior is one way to distinguish a vampire. They subsist on the blood of others, and reside in colonies (IsraHell in this case.)
If you have no belief in cryptids that ain’t my fucking fault; there are an infinite number of things that mere humans do not understand about this earth we live on.
I've read the Bible, but the way it was taught to me mattered. I was taught of a Jesus as an anarchist shit-disturber, fighting against an entrenched class of elites; his followers wanted him to go against Rome, but the problem wasn't with Rome, but with its collaborators.
Now, others have been taught the same book and come away with a totally different idea (and I cannot figure out how...)
Yeah, but it comes down to how these storybooks are presented. They are not necronomicon-level possession devices. The parents and the village. That's the key here.
Indoctrination is very powerful, and strongly resistant to change. If it wasn't they wouldn't work so hard at it, starting from birth.
I remember talking with a friend years ago, and asked him if he would accept mass slaughter and of course he said no. But when I mentioned all that in the bible, he said that that was different. It was fine if god said to do it. smh
I think we need to give a fuck about indoctrination and we need to try to stop it from happening. Yes, human beings know right from wrong, but zionist kids are seriously brainwashed. There is also the doc, Israelism
Let’s not overlook the indoctrination of many Americans who support Zionism and Eretz Israel.
Also speak, if you can, with American military personnel who were ordered to slaughter civilians in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc. Many are suffering from PTSD from their experience. Others have committed suicide. The psychopaths who enjoyed what they did were rewarded with medals and/or promoted. They have/had the benefit of not having guilty consciences.
The US “all volunteer” armed forces acts as a filter to deter some people of conscience from enlisting.
Psychopaths gravitate towards occupations where they can do psychopathic activities. Normal people will end up committing suicide if put in those positions. Normal people should take a close look at what the military represents these days. It is NOT representing self defense. It is a totally aggressive destructive force for no good.
My husband had a high school classmate who was under the command of William Calley at My Lai. When ordered to fire, he did so once, looked around and noticed some of the others failing to follow orders, and put his firearm down.
He and the others who refused to participate in a massacre were court-marshalled.
They are. It is utterly shocking what zionist parents are raising these children to be. It is a form of child abuse and it is not limited to zionist children in israel.
I agree with you that it is a type of child abuse. Anywhere there are Zionists it is happening. I never fully understood how insidious and dangerous the Hebrew schools teaching Zionism were until I saw Israelism.
I have wonder just how that could be done, and what tactics it would take? Cure is sometimes claimed to be worse than the disease. In this case, I would fear, that getting rid of all religions, would likely be a good fit for that description, or perhaps, if not worse, then be just as bad.
I am not talking about getting rid of religion. I am talking about not indoctrinating children with a Zionist ideology. Zionism is not a religion. It is a fascist ideology. Like Nazism.
I apologize, I hadn't realized you wanted to rid us of only some forms of indoctrination. From my perspective, religion is indoctrination. The Old Testament, and other 'holy' books proclaim genocide and tribal warfare. In this current case, the one breeds the other. Political zionism long followed religious zionism. I don't know how you can separate the core values of one from the other.
I hear what you are saying. I don't like religion either. It just sounded in the first post you made as if you might be saying that Judaism is the problem. I do think that ideologies like Zionism and Nazism are a step above religions though in that they so openly promote supremacy and hatred of others. Religions are much quieter about those promotions which, I suppose could make them worse. But right now, in this world, it is Zionism that is causing so much division, hatred and pain for so many.
Zionism is an ideology built on a certain version of Judaism. There are such extreme political ideologies based on almost every major religion. Wahabism based on islam, hindutva based on Hinduism, trumpism (Nazism) based on bible, etc. for example.
Assholes use religions as tools of manufacturing consent for their assholery. It's simple as that. A lot of pro-palestinian people are also just that - assholes. They would do the same kind of despicable stuff to other people if given the opportunity. I know from my personal experience that they already do so already. They are our allies in this particular struggle and they are just that. Let's keep it real.
The "religion" of Jesus was simple. LOVE YOUR CREATOR WITH YOU WHOLE BEING and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. If you neighbor is trying to murder you self defense is in order.
What if these human beings don't see human beings next door, but slobbering "human animals" constantly plotting their death? Kids push boundaries, test the ethical waters. And without a sane, measured response from their guardians, their communities, their Nation... ?
It's a bit more challenging than that. You're talking about raising spoiled narcissists. Raising a child to be a sociopath requires more effort; some combination of parenting without love or affection combined with stringent parental discipline requiring submission to arbitrary rules together with expectations that the child can meet (a double-bind situation).
Some children reject that program directly and, after a struggle (as disobedient kids), develop a healthy ego. Others, like Hitler and Trump, are subjugated and subdued by the parental power and can only later react against it. At that point, the reaction manifests in the form of destructive rage and a desire for retribution that seems to be insatiable.
It doesn't take a village to create a sociopath, just a badly warped family. But I'm sure that a badly warped village could do the job just as well.
Nick, Caitlin is not making excuses. Indoctrination can desensitise and condition human beings. But the human also has the capacity to rise above the conditioning.
Do human beings REALLY "Know right from wrong"? I have my doubts with that statement.
Firstly, you are of course assuming that everyone shares your particular values. Secondly, that everyone would react the same to the same pressures.
Because what we have here is clashing 'Right and wrong' values.
Is it right to follow orders; to defend your nation and people?
Now, SOME people will always ask "WHAT orders?", and SOME people will always say "YES!", and SOME people will like to think they would ask that question but actually wouldn't in the situation. And indeed some people may think they would follow, but in the moment will surprise themselves by finding a objection.
Just about everyone will lie, or 'manipulate their environment' for their own ends - and for a large number, that also includes lying to cause harm as well as for their own benefit.
As every military psychologist despairingly says at some point: "It's when they are older, with time to think, and no group around to reinforce the group-think instilled by military 'discipline', that the conscience reasserts itself in most normal people - and then they self-destruct.".
'Disobeying orders' is also taught as a definite WRONG, from a very early age. And "Questioning orders through morality" has historically lead to short future lives as well, often ending in front of a line of jolly decent chaps with rifles pointing at you and someone offering a cigarette. [Smoking kills, btw.]
So yes, 'right and wrong'. But in normal lives, those are often very complex, and for soldiers, the very training is supposed to overwrite that.
After all, soldiers are trained to murder other people. It's literally their job description.
It's notable that it's usually murdered women and children who haunt the soldiers.
Get lost, idiot. Cannabis use does not encourage violence, but just the opposite. Neither does cannabis use diminish individual thinking. Cannabis use has its drawbacks, but it is peaceable.
Beyond the pale. You seem to have joined up with the worst of the diabolical egregores. Stoners like you are mean (Why are you on this list? It makes no sense! Keep cheerleading those Zionist geniuses.), and many are violent. Reported.
I don't use cannabis, so please drop the 'stoner' label. In addition, I do not adhere to the idea of so-called 'egregores'; that is, that collective beliefs create an entity or 'thought-form' which goes on to influence human beliefs and behaviors.
In my view, you have a cartoonish (flattened) perspective on human behavior that has no correspondence to our material or trans-material reality.
But, if you have some evidence for your ideas, please provide them. I remain open to new ideas.
As kid in NYC, I witnessed a lot of depravity. Sick a-holes throwing bricks at Black kids; young toughs fist-fighting on the subway over seats that should've been given to the elderly; young sociopaths practicing their art by urinating through schoolyard fences on the homeless "bums" sleeping inside the schoolyard -- I mean some really perverse stuff. But nothing I saw in my youth in the sordidness of the Big Rotten Apple comes close to the mental illness of the IDF actions described in this post and elsewhere. Fuck Israel. Free Palestine
The current Israeli government is the one Einstein is referring to in this open letter to the New York Times in 1948:
"To the Editor or The New York Times : Amongst the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948
outstanding evidence, excellent video. I didn't know all that information, yet i have read a lot of books about this topic since Oct. 7th. Thank you vm
"It really is that simple. Israel really is that bad. And so is anyone who supports it." I can think of no word adequate enough to describe the bottomless evil of Israel, the rabid dog of the USA. But, every government in the world that puts up with Israeli ambassadors on their territory plays a part in the slaughter by starvation being inflicted on nearly 2 million Palestinians.
It isn’t Israel. It is the United States that is this evil. The American oligarchy is dominated by butchers. Israel is just their pass-time. The doctor is coming today.
Just talking about Bin Laden's letter. Have not seen any refutation of its authenticity. But now you bring it up:
Have you read this Grayzone piece? Will give you pause, perhaps, on the "dancing" thing. Seem to be garden variety scammers, albeit vocal supporters of the zionist entity.
I have seen a presentation about Saudi involvement and the recent "tourist" videos that have popped up around the traps. Certainly seem reasonable, but I am no expert. I saw 'Loose Change', or one of its edits, way back when, but that's it. If it was, in fact, a mossad op, obviously I wouldn't be surprised.
Darren, I believed every word the official narrative that was put out on 9/11. A decade later I stumbled onto Christopher Bollyn. There are others but his is the most exhaustive I know including Israhell's involvement. False flags are easy when you control the narrative.
I never believed any of the official narrative regarding 9/11. If you had been listening to independent media instead of mainstream media, you wouldn't have believed it either.
Listening to intependent media doesn't give anyone carte blanche to believe whatever 'independent media' says. Critical thinking is required regardless of the source.
There are facts, and there are opinions. And then there are Conspiracy Theories.
And, there are also actual nefarious plots that are actual de facto conspiracies.
Naomi Klein has described several in her book, “The Shock Doctrine”. John Perkins has described many others in several of his books, including “The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”. Wiki leaks has exposed many plots by US government agencies.
The war in Vietnam was based upon a pack of lies conjured by agents of the US government, on behalf of private corporate “interests”.
Some day, we may know the truth about the events of 9/11, but today is not that day.
Carolyn, thanks for letting us all know that you were already awake on 9/11!!! The rest of your response seemed a tad bit harsh. Why not say that you're thankful I eventually woke up and now am able to help others?
While I have nothing but respect for your ability and inclination towards putting in the time and effort to research, you're still talking around what I posted.
When this letter resurfaced about 18 months ago, the criticisms were not "it's a fake" but the expected hysterical name-calling (ANTISEMITISM! Diiisssssgussstinnnnng!), which leads me to reckon it real, not written by some zionazi headbanger.
What fake airplanes crashed into Gaza, causing it all to collapse? It looks nuked, however. Are you a disinforming troll? Where's the "dislike" button?
I thought I'd already clarified the former. (A missile struck the Pentagram.) The Twin Towers' exoskeletons were rigged with demolition explosives, and W54 (also known as Mark 54) Special Atomic Demolition Munitions (SADMs) recovered from Davy Crockett Weapon Systems the US (LBJ?) had turned over to IshaRaEl took out the elevator cores.
The alleged passenger aircraft that allegedly hit the Pentagon was allegedly vaporized without leaving much physical evidence.
I am familiar with the design and manufacture of the jet engines used on the alleged aircraft. They can withstand heat far in excess of a combustion after a crash, and do not “vaporize”.
The officially released photos of the Pentagon crash site show nothing that looks like jet engine carcasses.
Psychopaths exist in every population. I think that we can assume that they always have, an that religious texts have been a great excuse for psychopathic behaviour for many many centuries.
The Bible is a book. A book written by humans, not by any god. There is no god. Not coming to save you or enslave you. Saving and enslaving are human activities. It is past time for humans to realize that it is all them, not some "supreme being".
You might want to read the Bhavagad-Gita, where Lord Krishna says basically, don't worry about mass slaughter. Go ahead, don't grieve, enjoy your fame. Bodies don't matter; the soul can't be slain, and, anyway there's always reincarnation.
Everybody on this whole website believes something, anything. All of you need to attempt to reconcile John 3:16. All of you just might be doomed! Just sayin!
Israel is a proxy for the USA to maintain hegemony over the Middle East.
The American Oligarchy is dominated by criminals who were descendants of Meyer Lansky or his associates.
The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't work when comparing the US to Israel or trying to choose between the Democrat and the Republican. The "Deep State" is all around us. The rot permeates all levels of the US government.
There is no such thing as "more evil". There is making excuses for tolerating it.
I have written a small article on this a while back. The Jews of Israel are just protecting an American military outpost in the middle east. Too bad for them.
That video covers multiple gamuts, and misleads regarding Stephen Paddock. I found most pertinent, LdS and Southern Baptists provide many of the recruits for US intelligence agencies and nefarious corporations.
The reason to bring up Lansky though is that he was instrumental in forming the National Crime Syndicate which the "Boston Brahmins" (for want of a better label) collaborated with to seek American Hegemony.
Good also has done a lot of investigation into the "Jewish Mob" including their involvement with the murder of JFK. Once you start down this rabbit hole though, which way do you go?
Warren Buffet is a member of the Oligarchy, 52% of Americans still admire him. Is he tainted by the evil of the Lansky group? Does he compromise with them? Does he associate with them?
Focusing on Lansky is much easier because you know him for what he is.
To me, it's more like until we rid ourselves of the tyrants who demand blood to satiate their lust for power, getting rid of zionism would only drive TPTB to find something else to hitch their death wagon to. If the zionists are using the US empire for their own ends, you can be sure the empire is using zionism to do the same.
LdSism ("Evangelical" disavowals notwithstanding) has been called "the American religion", and openly boasts of being Zionist, which they call "the pure in heart". See Orson Hyde's Dedicatory Prayer to dedicate the Holy Land for the return of the "Jews". Not to mention all these AME, etc. Zion churches.
Am I being too particular to point out that Zionism didn't become a "thing" until after WWI and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. About 300 years apart.
If you have something that connects Zionism with the Puritans that long ago, please share. I was unable to locate anything on the web.
Zionism was invented in the 19th century and sold to wealthy Jews in Europe and the U.S. Ordinary Jews in Europe were not at all interested in Zionism. It had to be heavily "marketed" to the ruling class as a way to get rid of their Jewish populations and they went along with it willingly. See Lord Balfour and the Balfour Declaration.
I have noticed that the history of Zionism is given completely separate from the history of Christian Zionism, for some unfathomable reason. Wikipedia has a very good section on Christian Zionism, or did the last time I checked. There are some other resources on this subject, but not many, AFAIAC.
You will see that the historical genesis, if you will, of this idea, came from the Restoration period in 16th Century England, and among the Christian fanatics promoting it, were the Puritans. If you then follow the lineage in England it takes you through many governmental ministers, whose influence is apparent all the way through the time of the Balfour Declaration, and continuing. This document could never have happened without the doings of the Christian Zionists in the British government.
Israel is now guilty of the worst of the Hitler Nazi war crimes; genocide, ethnic cleansing, murder, intentional starvation of women and children. They’ve committed a Holocaust; Never Forget what Israel has done to the Palestinians of Gaza. I am a Catholic US military veteran and I oppose this slaughter. One can not be a Christian and also support Israel; they are mutually exclusive now.
That's not true. The right-wing Christian evangelists support Zionism and always have. They actually believe all the shit about the return of Christ and the end times.
Christian ZIONIST is an oxymoron. That means they are opposing beliefs. Here is a Greg Reese video that explains why I stated this. Christian ZIONISTS are IGNORANT morons. ZIONISM is from SATAN. They don't even bother figuring it out. https://rumble.com/v3py72s-zionism-and-the-creation-of-israel.html After watching that tell me how someone can be a "Christian Zionist." maybe a ZIONIST, but not a true Christian.
Heh, Feral. And kittens are scared of nothing; unlike puppies and children who run away, a kitten will puff itself up, hiss, extend its claws and confront its adversary.
Thank you Caitlin Johnstone for speaking up about this horrific tragedy taking place. As an American, I am both appalled and disgusted at the genocide the Israeli's are conducting as my government allows it to happen. If you speak up and oppose the genocide or say anything critical about Israel or Nuttenyahoo, the antisemite label is tossed out, its happened to me. Israel is doing to the Palestinians, what the Germans did to them in WWII.
What Israel doesn't factor in is that all Empires come to an end. The USA, my government is in a fast decline and heading towards a collapse. That's why Trump has taken the country into protection mode (and NO, I did not vote for him, just saying). When the US collapses, Israel will not have Big Brother to protect or fund it. At that point in time, Israel will recreate the season finale of The Walking Dead as all its enemies will come looking for Israel.
It is a rapidly decaying empire. It's economy is based on fictitious capital. It no longer manufactures goods for use, only for death. The greed and worship of wealth have turned the U.S. into a country filled with imbeciles, including most of Congress. China outproduces the U.S. and takes better care of its citizens.
"However, what we are seeing now is simply the end of any pretense that the United States is anything other than an empire."
That pretense was apparent if you had only looked 2-3 decades ago. Once the Soviet Empire ended in 1991, the US became what Ronald Reagan once called the Soviet Union, "The Evil Empire".
A six year old child could figure out with 5 apples and 15 hungry children that many will go hungry. It is basic math. The United States tried to convince everyone that 1+1 =12 with their monetary, banking and financial shenanigans.
The entire West is headed towards a sovereign debt default. The US will default when no one is willing to buy their "new debt, to payoff or service the old debt". That's when the US defaults. This is what happens when politicians continue to borrow with NO intention of ever paying it back and yearly US debt levels are growing exponentially.
Interest alone on the US National debt is around $1 trillion a year and that figure is growing. No wonder why DJT wants the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates.
And I will add that the US has a growing homeless problem, young people saddle with $10's of thousands of dollars in student loans with worthless diplomas. The average American doesn't have $500 to pay for emergency medical care or automobile repair. Housing costs have become unsustainable. Food prices are out of control. The latest according to Zerohedge is that Americans are now using "buy now, pay later" for food supplies.
If I were a doctor, I would say the patient known as the United States, has Stage 4 cancer.
Israel could not exist without the U.S. Its nuclear weapons technology came from the U.S., its weapons come from the U.S., its economy is supported by the U.S. Any country, if there is such a country that fundamentally can not exist without being subsidized by American taxpayers that country should not exist. Then not only should it not exsist, but that country already does not exist. It’s not really a country but a vassal state of its benefactor.
Furthermore, please stop referring Israeli military as a defense force. (IDF) They are an occupation force. (IOF).
"Specifically, during the mid-1950s France’s control over Algeria—which it considered part of France and not just another colony—was increasingly contested by a domestic insurgency that was receiving substantial support from the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser. Paris responded by eliciting Israel’s help in providing intelligence on the Algerian situation in return for French conventional weaponry. The opportunity to transform this into nuclear cooperation presented itself in 1956 when Paris asked Israel to provide France and Britain with a pretext to intervene militarily in what became the Suez Canal crisis."
Yeah I think it’s Israel - the way they’ve been living since it’s inception but I also think it’s partly their whacky religion that says some pretty disturbing things about non-Jews and how they’re (Jews) the “chosen ones” and all that. I think it’s both. Jews tend to think pretty highly of themselves - above the rest of us so they are exempt from the usual moral standards.
Israhell has been able to pretty much hide their 9/11 involvement for almost a quarter century. It's all about controlling the narrative. Name the patsy, hide the agendas for the false flag. October 7 is no different. Name the patsy, agenda not so hidden anymore.
I don’t give a fuck about indoctrination, human beings know right from wrong!
Let’s not make excuses for their appalling behaviour and actions.
You should care about indoctrination. It's the central theme of Ms. Johnstone's writing. People are taught (and learn) what is right and wrong. And everyone is capable of appalling behavior.
Untrue. I have never exhibited what could be construed as “appalling behavior” except through words, perhaps.
And I have a number of friends whose parents came up from the South to work in the auto industry; they overcame their parents’ inherent racism.
People actually ARE capable of change; they frequently don’t wish to. The vampires inhabiting IsraHell are not capable, because vampires are gonna vampire.
Of course people are capable of change, just as they are capable of self-restraint against destructive impulses (most of the time, and with exceptions for some people with brain damage). I'm happy to hear that you have never exhibited appalling behavior; that does not mean you lack the capacity.
Racism is not inherent, so your friends did not overcome 'their parents' inherent racism'. Racism is learned and can be unlearned. Even if, as you say, people tend to get rigid in their attitudes as they age. They are most flexible when young and adopt their life philosophies in late adolescence. Military people understand this and prefer to recruit men in their late teens or early twenties.
When you describe Israelis as vampires, you are dehumanizing them in just the same way that they dehumanize Palestinians as vermin. That is not helpful.
I’m not “dehumanizing” the IsraHellis. Did you read what I said?
How do dehumanize a non -human? They’re fucking VAMPIRES. Literally.
Well, that's interesting news to me.
How do you tell the vampires from the humans?
Is there a blood test? Do they bleed a different color?
Behavior is one way to distinguish a vampire. They subsist on the blood of others, and reside in colonies (IsraHell in this case.)
If you have no belief in cryptids that ain’t my fucking fault; there are an infinite number of things that mere humans do not understand about this earth we live on.
Israelis have actually dehumanised themselves.
Some behavior is more appalling than others.
And speaking of indoctrination - do you mean, for example, zionist indoctrination? It is some of the most racist, hateful brainwashing ever known.
Whilst on the subject of indoctriantion I suppose you've read the Talmud and the Bible.
I've read the Bible, but the way it was taught to me mattered. I was taught of a Jesus as an anarchist shit-disturber, fighting against an entrenched class of elites; his followers wanted him to go against Rome, but the problem wasn't with Rome, but with its collaborators.
Now, others have been taught the same book and come away with a totally different idea (and I cannot figure out how...)
Yeah, but it comes down to how these storybooks are presented. They are not necronomicon-level possession devices. The parents and the village. That's the key here.
Indoctrination is very powerful, and strongly resistant to change. If it wasn't they wouldn't work so hard at it, starting from birth.
I remember talking with a friend years ago, and asked him if he would accept mass slaughter and of course he said no. But when I mentioned all that in the bible, he said that that was different. It was fine if god said to do it. smh
Would an omnipotent god need to delegate the mass slaughter to fallible humans?
Omnipotent, omniscient cloud beings created by desperate humans, when the brilliance of Nature stares them in the face, How sad.
Zeus, Hera, Apollo, Ares, a bunch of delusional faeries.
Hilkiah (Chilqiyah - Saint Plunder) was a false "god". (Though apparently still pretty powerful.)
I think we need to give a fuck about indoctrination and we need to try to stop it from happening. Yes, human beings know right from wrong, but zionist kids are seriously brainwashed. There is also the doc, Israelism
https://www.readthemaple.com/youre-literally-brainwashed-jewish-school-students-speak-out/?ref=maple-digest-news-newsletter
Let’s not overlook the indoctrination of many Americans who support Zionism and Eretz Israel.
Also speak, if you can, with American military personnel who were ordered to slaughter civilians in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc. Many are suffering from PTSD from their experience. Others have committed suicide. The psychopaths who enjoyed what they did were rewarded with medals and/or promoted. They have/had the benefit of not having guilty consciences.
The US “all volunteer” armed forces acts as a filter to deter some people of conscience from enlisting.
Psychopaths gravitate towards occupations where they can do psychopathic activities. Normal people will end up committing suicide if put in those positions. Normal people should take a close look at what the military represents these days. It is NOT representing self defense. It is a totally aggressive destructive force for no good.
Most of them turn into mercenaries after returning from military. They definitely enjoy killing humans and they make it their life choice.
https://www.courageouslion.us/p/problem-psychopathic-control-freaks
Hi CK
I’ve related this story before.
My husband had a high school classmate who was under the command of William Calley at My Lai. When ordered to fire, he did so once, looked around and noticed some of the others failing to follow orders, and put his firearm down.
He and the others who refused to participate in a massacre were court-marshalled.
Regardless of the court martial they were the true heroes. Their courage and fortitude was truly admirable.
Very true, Peter. And eventually they were acquitted.
But just the fact that he was THERE pretty much ruined K’s life. From what I understand, it has shadowed him ever since.
Meet Hugh Thompson... One of My Heroes
https://www.courageouslion.us/p/meet-hugh-thompson-one-of-my-heros
They are. It is utterly shocking what zionist parents are raising these children to be. It is a form of child abuse and it is not limited to zionist children in israel.
I agree with you that it is a type of child abuse. Anywhere there are Zionists it is happening. I never fully understood how insidious and dangerous the Hebrew schools teaching Zionism were until I saw Israelism.
I have wonder just how that could be done, and what tactics it would take? Cure is sometimes claimed to be worse than the disease. In this case, I would fear, that getting rid of all religions, would likely be a good fit for that description, or perhaps, if not worse, then be just as bad.
I am not talking about getting rid of religion. I am talking about not indoctrinating children with a Zionist ideology. Zionism is not a religion. It is a fascist ideology. Like Nazism.
I apologize, I hadn't realized you wanted to rid us of only some forms of indoctrination. From my perspective, religion is indoctrination. The Old Testament, and other 'holy' books proclaim genocide and tribal warfare. In this current case, the one breeds the other. Political zionism long followed religious zionism. I don't know how you can separate the core values of one from the other.
I hear what you are saying. I don't like religion either. It just sounded in the first post you made as if you might be saying that Judaism is the problem. I do think that ideologies like Zionism and Nazism are a step above religions though in that they so openly promote supremacy and hatred of others. Religions are much quieter about those promotions which, I suppose could make them worse. But right now, in this world, it is Zionism that is causing so much division, hatred and pain for so many.
Zionism is an ideology built on a certain version of Judaism. There are such extreme political ideologies based on almost every major religion. Wahabism based on islam, hindutva based on Hinduism, trumpism (Nazism) based on bible, etc. for example.
Assholes use religions as tools of manufacturing consent for their assholery. It's simple as that. A lot of pro-palestinian people are also just that - assholes. They would do the same kind of despicable stuff to other people if given the opportunity. I know from my personal experience that they already do so already. They are our allies in this particular struggle and they are just that. Let's keep it real.
The "religion" of Jesus was simple. LOVE YOUR CREATOR WITH YOU WHOLE BEING and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. If you neighbor is trying to murder you self defense is in order.
Well said Joy!
Zionism and the creation of "Israel".
https://rumble.com/v3py72s-zionism-and-the-creation-of-israel.html
And Islamist kids are not? You're funny
What if these human beings don't see human beings next door, but slobbering "human animals" constantly plotting their death? Kids push boundaries, test the ethical waters. And without a sane, measured response from their guardians, their communities, their Nation... ?
buzz off, murderous zionist troll
You're an idiot. Learn to read.
No, your fakery doesn't fool me, and apparently it doesn't fool others, either.
Yeah, I'm throwing annual sub money at about ten of these writers to... what exactly?
You're a paranoid delusional, go back to your soap operas.
And, yep, I saw the support your idiotic post received. Whoever these other creepy people are, they're as worthless as you.
I can make any group of humans into sociopaths. Just give them rights without responsibilities.
It's a bit more challenging than that. You're talking about raising spoiled narcissists. Raising a child to be a sociopath requires more effort; some combination of parenting without love or affection combined with stringent parental discipline requiring submission to arbitrary rules together with expectations that the child can meet (a double-bind situation).
Some children reject that program directly and, after a struggle (as disobedient kids), develop a healthy ego. Others, like Hitler and Trump, are subjugated and subdued by the parental power and can only later react against it. At that point, the reaction manifests in the form of destructive rage and a desire for retribution that seems to be insatiable.
It doesn't take a village to create a sociopath, just a badly warped family. But I'm sure that a badly warped village could do the job just as well.
Correction, in the first paragraph: expectations that the child <cannot> meet. Cannot, rather than can.
Nick, Caitlin is not making excuses. Indoctrination can desensitise and condition human beings. But the human also has the capacity to rise above the conditioning.
https://wearechange.org/israeli-colonel-among-isis-forces-in-iraq
Call it "Behavioural Sciences", "Brainwashing" or "Nudging" .
Do human beings REALLY "Know right from wrong"? I have my doubts with that statement.
Firstly, you are of course assuming that everyone shares your particular values. Secondly, that everyone would react the same to the same pressures.
Because what we have here is clashing 'Right and wrong' values.
Is it right to follow orders; to defend your nation and people?
Now, SOME people will always ask "WHAT orders?", and SOME people will always say "YES!", and SOME people will like to think they would ask that question but actually wouldn't in the situation. And indeed some people may think they would follow, but in the moment will surprise themselves by finding a objection.
Just about everyone will lie, or 'manipulate their environment' for their own ends - and for a large number, that also includes lying to cause harm as well as for their own benefit.
As every military psychologist despairingly says at some point: "It's when they are older, with time to think, and no group around to reinforce the group-think instilled by military 'discipline', that the conscience reasserts itself in most normal people - and then they self-destruct.".
'Disobeying orders' is also taught as a definite WRONG, from a very early age. And "Questioning orders through morality" has historically lead to short future lives as well, often ending in front of a line of jolly decent chaps with rifles pointing at you and someone offering a cigarette. [Smoking kills, btw.]
So yes, 'right and wrong'. But in normal lives, those are often very complex, and for soldiers, the very training is supposed to overwrite that.
After all, soldiers are trained to murder other people. It's literally their job description.
It's notable that it's usually murdered women and children who haunt the soldiers.
Israelis are stoners. THC sears conscience with a hot iron. It also induces groupthink (recruits users into the locally prevalent egregore).
Nonsense.
Bye, Ziotroll!
Get lost, idiot. Cannabis use does not encourage violence, but just the opposite. Neither does cannabis use diminish individual thinking. Cannabis use has its drawbacks, but it is peaceable.
Beyond the pale. You seem to have joined up with the worst of the diabolical egregores. Stoners like you are mean (Why are you on this list? It makes no sense! Keep cheerleading those Zionist geniuses.), and many are violent. Reported.
I don't use cannabis, so please drop the 'stoner' label. In addition, I do not adhere to the idea of so-called 'egregores'; that is, that collective beliefs create an entity or 'thought-form' which goes on to influence human beliefs and behaviors.
In my view, you have a cartoonish (flattened) perspective on human behavior that has no correspondence to our material or trans-material reality.
But, if you have some evidence for your ideas, please provide them. I remain open to new ideas.
As kid in NYC, I witnessed a lot of depravity. Sick a-holes throwing bricks at Black kids; young toughs fist-fighting on the subway over seats that should've been given to the elderly; young sociopaths practicing their art by urinating through schoolyard fences on the homeless "bums" sleeping inside the schoolyard -- I mean some really perverse stuff. But nothing I saw in my youth in the sordidness of the Big Rotten Apple comes close to the mental illness of the IDF actions described in this post and elsewhere. Fuck Israel. Free Palestine
Yes! Fuck Israel! Free Palestine! https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/an-anthem-for-our-times
The current Israeli government is the one Einstein is referring to in this open letter to the New York Times in 1948:
"To the Editor or The New York Times : Amongst the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948
Einstein knew this was coming, he was a pretty smart guy. Much more information on the history of this genocidal regime here: https://tritorch.com/degradation/1948EinsteinArendtLetterToTheNewYorkTimesRegardingRisingFascistIsraeliGovernmentIsraelIDFMarch2025.mp4 [8mins]
Einstein was not a Zionist.
Correct. He was a socialist.
outstanding evidence, excellent video. I didn't know all that information, yet i have read a lot of books about this topic since Oct. 7th. Thank you vm
"It really is that simple. Israel really is that bad. And so is anyone who supports it." I can think of no word adequate enough to describe the bottomless evil of Israel, the rabid dog of the USA. But, every government in the world that puts up with Israeli ambassadors on their territory plays a part in the slaughter by starvation being inflicted on nearly 2 million Palestinians.
The IDF have the morality of a Hun horde. All their platitudes of decency are hollow when such barbarity is brought forth into the light.
Who sponsored the Huns?
Cain and Enmerkar.
It isn’t Israel. It is the United States that is this evil. The American oligarchy is dominated by butchers. Israel is just their pass-time. The doctor is coming today.
3%.
Only 3% of Israelis oppose the bombing, slaughter, mass rape and sniping toddlers in the head.
3%
That figure tells you all you need to know about Israel and it's willing funder, weapons supplier and diplomatic front man -- the USA.
3%
"By deception thou shalt wage war." Motto of the Mossad
Just like Osama Bin Laden and the alleged 19 highjackers
Last I heard, Bin Laden said "You vote for people who invade our land and steal our shit. Here it comes".
Where's the deception?
Forget about the Dancing Israelis, Darren ?
And the witnesses who claimed to hear ordnance exploding at timed intervals?
What about those “Saudi” passports found miraculously unscathed?
And why are we still one of the Sauds’ bitches, and they ours?
Just talking about Bin Laden's letter. Have not seen any refutation of its authenticity. But now you bring it up:
Have you read this Grayzone piece? Will give you pause, perhaps, on the "dancing" thing. Seem to be garden variety scammers, albeit vocal supporters of the zionist entity.
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/
I have seen a presentation about Saudi involvement and the recent "tourist" videos that have popped up around the traps. Certainly seem reasonable, but I am no expert. I saw 'Loose Change', or one of its edits, way back when, but that's it. If it was, in fact, a mossad op, obviously I wouldn't be surprised.
Darren, I believed every word the official narrative that was put out on 9/11. A decade later I stumbled onto Christopher Bollyn. There are others but his is the most exhaustive I know including Israhell's involvement. False flags are easy when you control the narrative.
I never believed any of the official narrative regarding 9/11. If you had been listening to independent media instead of mainstream media, you wouldn't have believed it either.
Listening to intependent media doesn't give anyone carte blanche to believe whatever 'independent media' says. Critical thinking is required regardless of the source.
There are facts, and there are opinions. And then there are Conspiracy Theories.
And, there are also actual nefarious plots that are actual de facto conspiracies.
Naomi Klein has described several in her book, “The Shock Doctrine”. John Perkins has described many others in several of his books, including “The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”. Wiki leaks has exposed many plots by US government agencies.
The war in Vietnam was based upon a pack of lies conjured by agents of the US government, on behalf of private corporate “interests”.
Some day, we may know the truth about the events of 9/11, but today is not that day.
Carolyn, thanks for letting us all know that you were already awake on 9/11!!! The rest of your response seemed a tad bit harsh. Why not say that you're thankful I eventually woke up and now am able to help others?
While I have nothing but respect for your ability and inclination towards putting in the time and effort to research, you're still talking around what I posted.
When this letter resurfaced about 18 months ago, the criticisms were not "it's a fake" but the expected hysterical name-calling (ANTISEMITISM! Diiisssssgussstinnnnng!), which leads me to reckon it real, not written by some zionazi headbanger.
Proof?
Of what? Or were you talking to Stan?
Most of the alleged highjackers were privileged Saudis who were highly motivated to sacrifice themselves.
Those "hijackers" didn't exist. Many were found still alive in Saudi Arabia. It was a CGI show.
>>"It was a CGI show."
Yeah - just like the destruction of Gaza is a CGI show, right? Sheesh!
What fake airplanes crashed into Gaza, causing it all to collapse? It looks nuked, however. Are you a disinforming troll? Where's the "dislike" button?
Please work on your comprehension skills and re-read my comment (hint: Just as the destruction of Gaza is real, so was 9/11).
What’s your explanation for the destruction of the World Trade Center in NYC, or the section on the Pentagon?
I thought I'd already clarified the former. (A missile struck the Pentagram.) The Twin Towers' exoskeletons were rigged with demolition explosives, and W54 (also known as Mark 54) Special Atomic Demolition Munitions (SADMs) recovered from Davy Crockett Weapon Systems the US (LBJ?) had turned over to IshaRaEl took out the elevator cores.
That’s very plausible in my opinion.
The alleged passenger aircraft that allegedly hit the Pentagon was allegedly vaporized without leaving much physical evidence.
I am familiar with the design and manufacture of the jet engines used on the alleged aircraft. They can withstand heat far in excess of a combustion after a crash, and do not “vaporize”.
The officially released photos of the Pentagon crash site show nothing that looks like jet engine carcasses.
Sorry but they are evil. Yes usa is evil but these Israeli are more evil. Have you read the Talmud ? and the Genocidal verses in the Bible ?
Psychopaths exist in every population. I think that we can assume that they always have, an that religious texts have been a great excuse for psychopathic behaviour for many many centuries.
Right on. Words on pages. It's the bearers, for better or worse, that are significant.
The Bible is a book. A book written by humans, not by any god. There is no god. Not coming to save you or enslave you. Saving and enslaving are human activities. It is past time for humans to realize that it is all them, not some "supreme being".
👍🏽🤗
No other religious text calls to open genocide and racism.
You might want to read the Bhavagad-Gita, where Lord Krishna says basically, don't worry about mass slaughter. Go ahead, don't grieve, enjoy your fame. Bodies don't matter; the soul can't be slain, and, anyway there's always reincarnation.
Everybody on this whole website believes something, anything. All of you need to attempt to reconcile John 3:16. All of you just might be doomed! Just sayin!
Israel would not exist without the USA.
Israel is a proxy for the USA to maintain hegemony over the Middle East.
The American Oligarchy is dominated by criminals who were descendants of Meyer Lansky or his associates.
The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't work when comparing the US to Israel or trying to choose between the Democrat and the Republican. The "Deep State" is all around us. The rot permeates all levels of the US government.
There is no such thing as "more evil". There is making excuses for tolerating it.
I have written a small article on this a while back. The Jews of Israel are just protecting an American military outpost in the middle east. Too bad for them.
See The HIDDEN HISTORY of LAS VEGAS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_d9-m2ieL0
I'll put it on my list, but my first impression is that "really graceful" may have an agenda other than revealing facts.
For top notch scholarly investigation into Lansky, Aaron Good is the man.
https://www.youtube.com/@americanexception9407
Or you can find him at patreon.
https://www.patreon.com/c/americanexception/posts
That video covers multiple gamuts, and misleads regarding Stephen Paddock. I found most pertinent, LdS and Southern Baptists provide many of the recruits for US intelligence agencies and nefarious corporations.
The American Oligarchy began long before Lansky.
Of course. Want to go all the way back to Adam and Eve?
Here's Aaron Good being interviewed by Ben Norton on his book "American Exception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1FlXcwhsp4
Or if you want even more background, Good's 24 part series is outstanding.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL
The reason to bring up Lansky though is that he was instrumental in forming the National Crime Syndicate which the "Boston Brahmins" (for want of a better label) collaborated with to seek American Hegemony.
Good also has done a lot of investigation into the "Jewish Mob" including their involvement with the murder of JFK. Once you start down this rabbit hole though, which way do you go?
Warren Buffet is a member of the Oligarchy, 52% of Americans still admire him. Is he tainted by the evil of the Lansky group? Does he compromise with them? Does he associate with them?
Focusing on Lansky is much easier because you know him for what he is.
Distinction without a difference.
That certainly is the point I am trying to emphasize.
Unless we rid ourselves of the Zionists (for want of a better label, it is too narrow) in the American Oligarchy, nothing will change.
To me, it's more like until we rid ourselves of the tyrants who demand blood to satiate their lust for power, getting rid of zionism would only drive TPTB to find something else to hitch their death wagon to. If the zionists are using the US empire for their own ends, you can be sure the empire is using zionism to do the same.
LdSism ("Evangelical" disavowals notwithstanding) has been called "the American religion", and openly boasts of being Zionist, which they call "the pure in heart". See Orson Hyde's Dedicatory Prayer to dedicate the Holy Land for the return of the "Jews". Not to mention all these AME, etc. Zion churches.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around their illogical delusions.
Zionism was brought to America by the Puritans. We know what they contributed to this nation. Although they came to Salem, they did not bring peace.
Am I being too particular to point out that Zionism didn't become a "thing" until after WWI and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. About 300 years apart.
If you have something that connects Zionism with the Puritans that long ago, please share. I was unable to locate anything on the web.
Zionism was invented in the 19th century and sold to wealthy Jews in Europe and the U.S. Ordinary Jews in Europe were not at all interested in Zionism. It had to be heavily "marketed" to the ruling class as a way to get rid of their Jewish populations and they went along with it willingly. See Lord Balfour and the Balfour Declaration.
I have noticed that the history of Zionism is given completely separate from the history of Christian Zionism, for some unfathomable reason. Wikipedia has a very good section on Christian Zionism, or did the last time I checked. There are some other resources on this subject, but not many, AFAIAC.
You will see that the historical genesis, if you will, of this idea, came from the Restoration period in 16th Century England, and among the Christian fanatics promoting it, were the Puritans. If you then follow the lineage in England it takes you through many governmental ministers, whose influence is apparent all the way through the time of the Balfour Declaration, and continuing. This document could never have happened without the doings of the Christian Zionists in the British government.
Salem means peace in the sense of conquest. (No one left to object)
Ah, then maybe they named it right, after all!
Israel is now guilty of the worst of the Hitler Nazi war crimes; genocide, ethnic cleansing, murder, intentional starvation of women and children. They’ve committed a Holocaust; Never Forget what Israel has done to the Palestinians of Gaza. I am a Catholic US military veteran and I oppose this slaughter. One can not be a Christian and also support Israel; they are mutually exclusive now.
You are so right. Christian Zionist is an oxymoron. You can't be both and be right.
That's not true. The right-wing Christian evangelists support Zionism and always have. They actually believe all the shit about the return of Christ and the end times.
Christian ZIONIST is an oxymoron. That means they are opposing beliefs. Here is a Greg Reese video that explains why I stated this. Christian ZIONISTS are IGNORANT morons. ZIONISM is from SATAN. They don't even bother figuring it out. https://rumble.com/v3py72s-zionism-and-the-creation-of-israel.html After watching that tell me how someone can be a "Christian Zionist." maybe a ZIONIST, but not a true Christian.
Israel learned well from the Nazis, that the only thing that matters is getting on the winning side.
Of course, when they are the victims, they cry like little girls.
Heh, Feral. And kittens are scared of nothing; unlike puppies and children who run away, a kitten will puff itself up, hiss, extend its claws and confront its adversary.
Just an observation 😁
Oh, I remember being plenty scared.
Victim: Someone who's told they need to walk an extra twenty metres to get to class.
3% of Israelis are against the ethnic cleansing of Gaza ! no other words to add !!! Evil state, evil population.
Thank you Caitlin Johnstone for speaking up about this horrific tragedy taking place. As an American, I am both appalled and disgusted at the genocide the Israeli's are conducting as my government allows it to happen. If you speak up and oppose the genocide or say anything critical about Israel or Nuttenyahoo, the antisemite label is tossed out, its happened to me. Israel is doing to the Palestinians, what the Germans did to them in WWII.
What Israel doesn't factor in is that all Empires come to an end. The USA, my government is in a fast decline and heading towards a collapse. That's why Trump has taken the country into protection mode (and NO, I did not vote for him, just saying). When the US collapses, Israel will not have Big Brother to protect or fund it. At that point in time, Israel will recreate the season finale of The Walking Dead as all its enemies will come looking for Israel.
I wish I could agree. However, what we are seeing now is simply the end of any pretense that the United States is anything other than an empire.
It is a rapidly decaying empire. It's economy is based on fictitious capital. It no longer manufactures goods for use, only for death. The greed and worship of wealth have turned the U.S. into a country filled with imbeciles, including most of Congress. China outproduces the U.S. and takes better care of its citizens.
None of which matters. Right doesn't prevail because it is right, only when it is strong.
The fact that "might is right" is the curse of humanity. Parasitic imbecilic human race is counting last days on this beautiful planet.
The problem is what those humans take with them.
"However, what we are seeing now is simply the end of any pretense that the United States is anything other than an empire."
That pretense was apparent if you had only looked 2-3 decades ago. Once the Soviet Empire ended in 1991, the US became what Ronald Reagan once called the Soviet Union, "The Evil Empire".
A six year old child could figure out with 5 apples and 15 hungry children that many will go hungry. It is basic math. The United States tried to convince everyone that 1+1 =12 with their monetary, banking and financial shenanigans.
The entire West is headed towards a sovereign debt default. The US will default when no one is willing to buy their "new debt, to payoff or service the old debt". That's when the US defaults. This is what happens when politicians continue to borrow with NO intention of ever paying it back and yearly US debt levels are growing exponentially.
Interest alone on the US National debt is around $1 trillion a year and that figure is growing. No wonder why DJT wants the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates.
And I will add that the US has a growing homeless problem, young people saddle with $10's of thousands of dollars in student loans with worthless diplomas. The average American doesn't have $500 to pay for emergency medical care or automobile repair. Housing costs have become unsustainable. Food prices are out of control. The latest according to Zerohedge is that Americans are now using "buy now, pay later" for food supplies.
If I were a doctor, I would say the patient known as the United States, has Stage 4 cancer.
The US cannot default, in that all of its debts are in US dollars.
Caitlin you are as eloquent and as accurate as usual. 🎯
Israel could not exist without the U.S. Its nuclear weapons technology came from the U.S., its weapons come from the U.S., its economy is supported by the U.S. Any country, if there is such a country that fundamentally can not exist without being subsidized by American taxpayers that country should not exist. Then not only should it not exsist, but that country already does not exist. It’s not really a country but a vassal state of its benefactor.
Furthermore, please stop referring Israeli military as a defense force. (IDF) They are an occupation force. (IOF).
Hi August,
I refer to them as the IGF. You know what the G is for.
Slight correction -> Israel got it's nuclear technology from France.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/story-how-american-jews-and-france-built-israels-nuclear-weapons-179399
"Specifically, during the mid-1950s France’s control over Algeria—which it considered part of France and not just another colony—was increasingly contested by a domestic insurgency that was receiving substantial support from the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser. Paris responded by eliciting Israel’s help in providing intelligence on the Algerian situation in return for French conventional weaponry. The opportunity to transform this into nuclear cooperation presented itself in 1956 when Paris asked Israel to provide France and Britain with a pretext to intervene militarily in what became the Suez Canal crisis."
Same for DOD.
Collective narcissism is ugly as Hell.
Yeah I think it’s Israel - the way they’ve been living since it’s inception but I also think it’s partly their whacky religion that says some pretty disturbing things about non-Jews and how they’re (Jews) the “chosen ones” and all that. I think it’s both. Jews tend to think pretty highly of themselves - above the rest of us so they are exempt from the usual moral standards.
So the Israeli government forced the injection on the Jewish people but the people of Gaza were spared.
Logically a ‘ genocide’ would be to inject a poison into the enemy not your own people.
The ‘ Palestine’ propaganda is as fake as the Covid Conjob.
Not all Jews. Far from it. None of my Jewish friends are or ever have been Zionists.
I'm only going on what I've read. I think the reason Jews are persecuted is at least partly the fault of a percentage of them who are fanatical.
Find me a fascist who isn't a closet sexual sadist and I'll show you soneone who isn't a fascist.
Israhell has been able to pretty much hide their 9/11 involvement for almost a quarter century. It's all about controlling the narrative. Name the patsy, hide the agendas for the false flag. October 7 is no different. Name the patsy, agenda not so hidden anymore.