So, if such a crime were to be proven by independent investigators since nothing the Israelis say could be trusted, how would that compare to the well documented atrocities committed by Israeli snipers of shooting children, including toddlers, in the head and heart?
Anyone who thinks the remains of two small bodies, after 15 months, who were killed by Israeli bombs which suffocated them and/or, tore their bodies apart, would retain such evidence is truly gullible.
And if it did, how could anyone know whether or not the mother in total trauma decided to save her little ones from a worse fate, ripped apart by Israeli bombs?
Given the fact that the Palestinian Resistance/Hamas, said in November 23 they had all been killed by Israeli bombs, why in the name of sanity would they, since hostages, living ones, have value, have strangled two little kids?
This whole thing smacks of more Israeli excuses to murder more Palestinians, nearly half of them children, as it did when it invented beheaded babies, microwaved babies and babies hung on lines, all utterly debunked long ago.
The horrifying thing is that anyone is stupid enough to believe such blatant lies.
Oh, the MSM believes it. Last night the ABC evening news presented IsraHell’s nonsense as “facts” meanwhile completely neglecting the fact that the Ziopathic Vampires have ACTUALLY murdered tens of thousands of Palestinian children.
Gotta serve Massa, for certain. Different Massa this time around.
"That which has been presented without evidence may be dismissed without evidence . It applies to arguments , it applies to claims by US/ Isr. intelligence agencies ".
- do not remember who has said, but i'm sure he/she was a smart one.
The death of every child from wars is anil in our own coffin. What happens in Gaza, or anywhere else for that matter, on the planet that is getting smaller by the minute, happens everywhere. Today, it's 18,000 Palestinian children, tomorrow ........... All it would take is someone more stupid than the rest of us to launch nuclear arsenals, and that's where our story ends. Gaza will have come home to roost.
The reason why principles of justice, rule of law, democracy, human rights and common human decency need to be defended is because what we allow to be done to others we allow to be done to ourselves and we betray every shred of human decency in the doing.
Like it or not, civility in real terms is a slippery term at best... and Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' condition for humans is front and center of human interactions. It's not pretty, but an ever-present condition of life, human life included.
With a million or more words to describe the human condition, the opportunity to get it wrong increases with the amount f available rhetoric. Moreover, when political terms become intertwined with basic economics, good luck with finding much commonality. One adage from some sources reveals that 'simplicity is not easy to find, but most effective when you do. The nature of evolution is that if it works, don't correct..... The K.I.S.S. principle is best to keep brains from becoming chronically malfunctional.
I am sure there are trillions of words to describe the human condition and since humans are varied, each unique, curious and adventurous, it is not surprising. The best simplicity is striving to deal in facts. And yes, sometimes what are called facts are not absolute facts but that is where common sense comes in. Our journey always.
Ripped apart by Israeli bombs? If they were hit by a bomb, the change is more higher that there were nothing left of the body! But that is sure mine opinion about that!
Not true, as seen with many of the bodies of Palestinians. There is more to a bomb then the direct hit as with a bullet. The over pressure collapses building and tunnels. I am not a military expert, however physics I know.
If you look at the Palestinian dead and injured, particularly given that the Israelis take out entire apartment blocks and hundreds of people at a time, there are many who are mangled but retrievable. And you don’t need much to establish DNA.
Children in particular are shredded more effectively because of their size. These bombs not only send tons of concrete crashing down onto people but they suffocate by removing oxygen and then some suffocate in concrete dust, particularly children.
Who knows how much was left of the Bibas children or their mother, not much if the body of the mother was mixed up with a Palestinian woman. And she would have been with her children. To claim they can identify pressure to the two tiny throats from human hands is a real stretch, particularly after 16 months. But Israeli lies get more and more stupid.
I had never thought that or tried not to. I am so afraid you are very right : ( What does that tells us about going forward with this evil, yes evil country? Someone had asked me 1.5 yrs. ago IF israel should still exist considering it only exists with the support of the number one Evil Empire, the u.s. (lowercase for disrespect). When I was young I never thought I would say that about another country or my own even though I disagreed with all of the war and interference in other countries, Vietnam etc. IF only we had a group of Nations that were United in stopping war and Genocide. israel is dead, they committed suicide, slow motion but the worlds people not the governments has made this happen. I had hoped Iran would end this nightmare with the backing of BRICS and a security agreement with Russia. China had the power in one day to end this nightmare and be the kind of power for good. They failed us. I had written to the Chinese Ambassador to the u.s. about bringing, food, healthcare directly to a port I know would not float away is a gentle wind like Genocide Joe's dock of mock. The reply, Blah, Blah, Blah. Change will come my friend, I still believe Caitlin and others can bring us together. Workers Strike Back Today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-45vvvousc
I sent an e-mail to Vladimir Putin suggesting that if he assisted the Gazans, they’d undoubtedly be willing to give Russia a port on the Mediterranean.
You make rather bold accusations against Russia, China, BRICS claiming they "could do something". You should spell out what they could do. Not in terms of infantile wishful thinking but by providing concrete actions with solid backing. Try doing it on your own without crutches of internet gurus of the Ritter type who should have discredited themselves by now in the eyes of their congregations if only idolators could think for themselves.
As to lying and putting all the evils associated with it solely on Israel; well, Israel is just a current manifestation of it, a 10 on the target, since it combines lying with atrocious actions based on it. All of the West is equal if not superior in lying thereby enabling Israel do what it does. The West is therefore no less responsible for it.
Hence, you don't need to fight Israel not being an Israeli and lamenting the fact. Fight your own government which enables it. Cut the hand feeding the monster. And the monster will be tamed until the next convenient time - what current Europe perfectly demonstrates.
I'm not sure what you think I wrote. I did not imply the Russians should attack israel. I said with Iran being in the BRICS and a security packet with Russia. Iran could end this nightmare in a few days. israel is the size of New Jersey with few people. China could easily roll up to the coast with Hospital and cargo ships to supply Palestine with it's needs defying israel to attack or stop it with cover of international law. So, I won't bother you anymore.
They've known for many months those poor babies were killed in an airstrike and they've been sitting on it for this moment. The children are the victims, always, in this bullshit. And now their memory is being twisted to justify murdering more children. I know that everyone who supports this actually hates themselves very deeply, deep down inside, and they should.
I just finished writing about this before reading Caitlin's article. Netanyahu, whose shield is war, is looking for any pretext to resume the genocide, and so while Hamas, which has NO motive to resume the bloodshed, has admitted it made an error after Israeli DNA tests show the woman delivered was not the hostage intended, and it has, reasonably, explained that she (an the children) were pulled out of a bombed out building and mistakenly thought to be the woman in question. Hamas has no DNA analysis to confirm identity so must go, in the case of people lying in the rubble of large concrete buildings on proximity. I have concluded there is no reason to believe Netanyahu that Hamas deliberately sabotaged a ceasefire they have sought for over a year nor to doubt Hamas, which admits to an error. I recall one of the released hostages telling the press that they, the hostages, feared IDF bombing as threats to their lives rather than Hamas, for whom living hostages have more value in bargaining terms. Even the Israeli's know that Netanyahu's political survival and escape from prison (he faces 3 corruption trials) is based on being at war and so he has done everything possible to keep the blood flowing. Hamas, as reason would suggest, desires equally for the attack on them and their neighbors, to stop.
People who would slaughter tens of thousands of women and children wouldn't hesitate to lie or to use a false and absurd accusation to resume the genocide, which is the means by which they maintain power.
People believe what it suits them to believe. The fact the deaths of these children were announced 15 months ago is ignored. They want to believe the worst of the Palestinians in general and Hamas in particular and so they will. Let us hope they are the exception not the rule.
And how much could be identified in two little bodies crushed under concrete, or torn apart by a bomb, particularly after 16 months of decomposition. Does Hamas have refrigerated morques? Doubtful.
To strangle a baby and small child does not take much strength, let alone the power to do damage which could be identified 16 months of rotting later. And since these massive bombs often suffocate victims, particularly children. But for shitraelis it is enough to wish it were true to say that it is.
Unless the whole world is blind: Arabs do not kill civilians. This has been shown by their air strikes not on civilians but on army equipment centres. To expect Hamas to kill these kids and mother is bullshit.
seems an optimistic view to say the least, and saying "Arabs" is just like saying "Jews" - it's not helpful to lump people together in those terms. Some people from all sides kill civilians.
We understand the meaning. Zionists not Jews. I walk with great people in protest. Jewish voices for Peace. Zionists want most of us dead, for the resurrection.
Well, there is no truth in war. The future of the momentarily suspended one is not dependent on which atrocity is the most famous at the moment, but on the cold political calculations of men like Trump, Musk, and Netanyahu. In the recent past, they somehow turned up for a truce and there was a pause in the killing. There was, maybe, a little breeze of reason passing by? Maybe it could happen again!
If you mean the war on Yemen yes. Most of those that died starved by we in the u.s. through our proxy Saudi Arabia who have turned their backs on the heroes of Yemen, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria.
I don't quite agree Jenny.... Didn't Hamas kill civilians on October 7, 2023. In fact, the human species in general does killings, starting in its own back yards where homeless encampments dot the planet.
Yes, however as reported by the israeli defense force, the Hannibal directive it seems killed more than half of those killed through, helicopter missile and tank attacks. Most of those killed by Hamas were israei military. So there is that truth. Anyone dying in an attempt to break out prison gets a bit of leeway from me. The Palestinian people have far more patience than I do. Even as a peaceful person by nature, deleted remainder.....
While Israeli troops did kill some Israelis, it is not true that there is any report or evidence they killed half of them. Most killed by Hamas were NOT military...just under 700 civilians were killed and about 500 military. Giving leeway to killing 260 young people at a music festival is complicit in murder.....
Since Israel only ever lies and since there has been no independent investigation then the only source for how many were killed by the Palestinian Resistance, and civilians, code-name Hamas, is Israel. Ergo, nothing that we know at this point can be considered to be accurate. Given the Hannibal Directive and the fact that so much and so many were incinerated which is something the Palestinians could not do, since they do not possess the weapons, it is reasonable to say that most were killed by the Israeli army.
At the music festival people and cars were incinerated - Israel did that. At the Kibbutzhim, people and homes were incinerated. Israel did that. And in fact a number of Israeli survivors clearly stated they saw their own military do it. This was very early in the piece before Fizzrael's propaganda machine silenced them.
So, what do we know at this point? On October 7 the Palestinian resistance broke out of the Gaza concentration camp and they comprised around a dozen different factions. Hamas is the most organised and most professional and there is no reason not to believe, as they said, that they targeted military personnel which is perfectly legitimate.
One could also argue that since most Israeli adults serve, have served, remain reservists in the military that most are also legitimate targets for a Resistance militia. There are very few civilians. One could also argue all adult colonial occupiers are guilty of the crime of occupation.
It is also known that Palestinians civilians, mostly young men in their Twenties, broke out of the concentration camp after the fighters and there is some evidence they attacked civilians. As no doubt Jewish civilians would have done if they had broken out of the Warsaw Ghetto and found Germans dancing and singing on their land.
Without an independent enquiry it is wise to completely ignore anything the Israelis say about October 7 and to treat with caution what is said to have come from Hamas, unless it is a clear statement made by the Palestinian Resistance. Even then, caution is wise.
Yes, your comments seem accurate, but Hamas knew some of them were civilians did they not? I was only referring to Jenny's comment about Palestinians not killing civilians, nothing more. The rest us still speculating....
Unfortunately the label Hamas is applied generally by Israel, as indeed it must, to convince the gullible that it faces a clear and present danger from such a demonic force.
There are around 12 factions in the Palestinian Resistance with varying degrees of efficacy and professionalism and Hamas would be top of the list. At least we think, how would we know?
Hamas has been highly efficient in helping to make life bearable for the prisoners in the Gaza concentration camp as even international aid groups have stated.
But, not everything done by Palestinians or by Palestinian Resistance factions is the fault of Hamas. I would imagine there was significant chaos after October 7 and it took a long while for even Hamas to gain control and understanding of who did what and who had what.
There was one instance where some Israeli hostages were released in a deal done by a family who had kidnapped them. I do not believe they were part of the Resistance factions but simply an opportunistic group.
Most that we hear about Hamas comes from the Israelis and is therefore not worth a pinch of salt.
Yes there were killings on Oct 7th but if you look at how the Arabs do war it is highly unusual to kill civilians unless they are in the wrong place. It is my understanding that the Disco event in Israel was moved nearer to the Palestinian border. Why?
There were killings?.....young music loves were "at the wrong place" and so Hamas Arabs did not murder them, but "there were killings."
Re Saudi bombings in Yeman: "Nearly 15,000 civilians have been killed by direct military action, most of them in air strikes by the Saudi-led Coalition.
Air raids have frequently targeted civilian gatherings such as weddings and busy market places where there was no military target nearby, often with extremely deadly consequences." Perhaps these people were in the wrong place?
Most were incinerated by the Israeli military. The photos make that clear.
And as an American Jewish writer said months ago, if Jews had broken out of the Warsaw Ghetto and found Nazis dancing and singing on the other side they would no doubt have attacked them violently as well.
What sick fucker sets up a music festival outside a concentration camp?
Thankyou for comparing Israel to Saudi and not the Western democracies of which it claims to be a part. you have that right.
Jenny, My comment was more in response to your comment suggesting that Hamas did not kill civilians, which was not the case Oct. 7... Killing each other is a species problem that belongs to the entire tribe.
The admitted use of the Hannibal Directive by the israeli Genocide Force has changed the narrative. Family's now know why the Genocide force buried the vehicles people and all. Missile strikes on cars and trucks hard to hide.
Pietro, Although the directive may have been genuine, the action from the Israelis only came about because of the attack by Hamas, which was the topic involved in Jenny's comment.
I cringe at the term "shitraelis" as the Israelis are also victims of a vile and corrupt regime . Otherwise , I agree with you but we hurt our cause when we stoop to this level of hate speech.
Research and in person interviews shows that the vast majority of Israeli citizens are fully on board with the genocide of their Palestinian neighbours. Pity them not for they know EXACTLY what they do.
To be fair, if, for example, you polled German civilians in 1916 or whatever, the number not on board with their country's war would be similarly small.
the ai-bot says they're not biologically classified as such, but there's lots of overlap. there's also herd-animals that are 'managed' (exploited) by a different species instead of an actual member of the group.
also 'lions are the only felines that live in structured, long-term social groups (prides). other felines are mostly solitary or form temporary or less structured groups.'
A majority support military retaliation but a majority also favors an end to the war, and they do NOT see the military action as genocide, (as I do). Similarly, most Palestinians supported the Hamas attack but based on NOT believing they killed civilians Beliefs based on falsehoods...on both sides.
"The IDF’s successes are mostly not due to operational competence but rather to the fighting spirit of the Israeli soldiers on the ground ' I find your opinions idiotic and your insult despicable.
The reason for changing the name is not to protect the innocent because they are clearly guilty, but to avoid the bots which target the official name.
I can use Fizzraeli or Sickraeli if it helps. Calling them shitraelis is not hate speech it is fact speech. And yes, they are victims but not of a vile and corrupt regime, but of themselves and they are willing victims. The regime which runs Israel is supported by virtually every Israeli, mind, body, not sure we can include souls and while there are some exceptions they are few and rare.
Israelis and their supporters are mentally ill, brainwashed to hate and kill and I have deep compassion for all of them, particularly the young sick soldiers.
Soon israel will be ended, that I am sure the world is seeing to it although to slowly for me. With that much hate from birth (turning that troupe around) can israeli's live in the New Palestine or will they leave as they have been doing? A whistleblower has released the true death toll of the israeli Genocide Force, at 20k, that will haunt them I hope.
Anyone could work out the Israeli death toll was much higher. Everyone lies in war and the rough count of eight wounded to every one dead has probably improved to ten wounded for every dead body. The reason so many have taken to the streets wanting the war to end is because of so many funerals. Although they still want the bombs dropping on the Palestinians. They just don’t want their soldiers fighting.
There's a North American tour of brave Refuseniks starting in early March! Their first visit is to Montreal, March 4. Organized by some pro-peace Jewish-based groups.
You are clearly using hate speech, which is speech meant to degrade a population based, in this case on nationality, ignoring that many Israelis are denouncing the current regime for stonewalling an end to the war and 20% of Israelis are Arab. Add to your crime of hate speech, which is a fascist practice, the crime of hypocrisy and bad faith. Using hate speech hurts the cause of the Palestinians by making their defenders look like Nazis.
Sadly, more and more of an overwhelming majority of the remaining Israelis (many have left in the past few years) are visciously anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, and anti-Christian (v. the denominations that have been present in Palestine for 100's and 100's of years). The brave peace activists remaining are threatened and attacked.
Happy to use Fizzraelis if Shit bothers you. AND NO MANY ISRAELIS ARE NOT DENOUCING THE CURRENT REGIME for its genocide. They want more Palestinians killed. Calling people names does not make a case but says you cannot make a case and so resort to insults.
I very much doubt any fascist has ever defended rule of law, justice, human rights, democracy and common human decency as I am doing.
As to 20% of Israelis being Arab, get the terminology right. There are no non-Jews who are Israelis, which is the accurate name for Arabs, a culture, Arabic speakers actually because Israel denies nationality to all non-Jews. Ergo, there are no non-Jewish Israelis. The only nationality is Jewish. Indeed, there is no Israeli nationality fullstop because in 2018 the State decreed the only nationality is religious - Jewish.
Israel and Israelis do not actually exist. They need to change the name to Jewdistan.
The non-Jews living in what is called Israel are in their homeland of Palestine. They were not driven out in 47/48 or 67 but the plan is to exterminate or expel them. That has been stated. You talk about hypocrisy and bad faith. What a hypocrite.
As to making defenders of justice for Palestine look like Nazis, believe me, the Israelis took that role on long ago. Most people use far worse names for sickraelis and they are universally detested for the truly bestial and shitty things that they do and have done for 76 years.
"According to the country’s Central Bureau of Statistics, there were 9,021,000 people in Israel as of 2019, and approximately 74.24% were Jews of different backgrounds, 20.95% were Arabs of different religions, while the other remaining 4.81% were persons who were categorized as others. "
True and well said friend. What hurts, israel has committed suicide and it didn't have to be. Ilan Pappe on Katie Halper's podcast predicted israel will not exist in less than 10 yrs. as the world turned against it and with we in the u.s. no longer able to support countries endless terror.
Yes, this is the great crime of the current Israeli regime, to punish the people of Gaza for the actions of Hamas......which of course was supported by Netanyahu for 14 yr.......
Hamas is part of the Palestinian Resistance and perfectly legitimate under international law with a right to take up arms against the savages who occupy them and their country.
Most that people hear about Hamas comes from the Sickraelis, who are liars. Hamas, according to international aid groups has been highly effective in creating a level of sanity and function in the Gaza concentration camp. They are organised and they are professional as a militia and as a prisoner support group.
The great crime of the Israeli regime is that it exists as a fascist, racist, apartheid, military colonial State, inflicting sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery on the Palestinians for 76 years in the name of supremacism.
Good on you Roslyn Ross, World opinion - if there is any such thing- does not credit Hamas as a resistance movement "creating a level of sanity and function in the Gaza concentration camp". And the fact that they were successful in doing so was anathema to the Israelis.
To condemn Israel and Netanyahu, which supported Hamas for 14 years, and defend Hamas, which accepted this support, and likely would have collapsed without it, seems absurd.
Hamas committed war crimes on Oct 7. There is no international law that sanctions killing peaceful civilians. This law applies to all.......Hamas, the IDF, all!
Netanyahu, whose shield is war? I do not know if this a sure claim to say that... But that is not now the case, the case here in is who are the people of both sides of this war? They have both not a shame to kill each other, that is a fact! Now a other question must be answer. How much hate have each side against each other? Is hamas hate 300%? And the mossad hate is 200%? Or is the both side the same equal hatred to each other? We will never know untile we have proof of evidence from the source were they get them hate from to hate someone without a reason! I know one fact if someone want to do to get his enemy (enemy?) down, than they will do everything in their power to falsely accuse the enemy of their own actions! That is a rule that comes directly from the psychopathic thought process of their own actions. That can be shooting their own children or children of their side, cutting, throwing grenades at them to make it look like the enemy did it! And that is most of the reasons why a certain group calls for war. This same group will do everything they can to use anything they can to justify their psychopathic goals. And that is in my opinion their goal to keep fighting the enemy, even if it is not their enemy! The psychopath thinks that to himself it is (not being able to think better about doing the exact opposite of what they are doing!)
Netanyahu's who claims Hamas uses civilians as a shield and thus justifies killing them, uses Hamas and war as his shield, for if he agreed to a peace, he would be ousted from office and face prison if convicted in his delayed 3 corruption trials. War, and the continued existence of Hamas, protect his power and his autonomy. It does not take a psychopath to understand that his power and status are based on a war emergency condition.
It has nothing to do with emergency codition! So you try to avoid the reason why? And you apparently don't get it! I wasn't talking about israel but about hamas! "hate reasons for war"! What hate reason does hamas have to destroy Israël? I'm not speak alone about hamas but also about the other side... The only question is does "Israël" hate the other side? Come with good facts than just a answer to answer the question!....
Regimes are virtually never replaced during emergencies such as wars. If not for war, Knesset would likely dissolve itself and have new elections and polls show Netanyahu would be replaced. BTW, I never said Hamas wants to destroy Israel, tho in the past it has expressed this mission. In its latest manifesto of 2017, it expresses a desire to crush not the Jews and not Israel but the Zionist project to destroy Palestine, and a very high ranking official recently said Hamas would lay down arms in exchange for statehood, recognizing virtually all current borders.
And we all know that Hamas and Netanyahu are liars, no matter how they do it or want to do it, they lie about everything as they want! That is no secret in terms of history in terms of all kinds of wars that have ever been fought!
"Hamas uses civilians as a shield and thus justifies killing them"... This is indeed true that Hamas uses this as a justification technique to continue waging war for their own reason! Both sides are guilty of waging war against the people in their war or wars. That is not a secret or a lie from Netanyahu.... Even Palestinians (survivor of a certain war, etc.) have said this themselves about Hamas waging war as their method of waging this kind of war as one of their methods...
In fact, Hamas has gained public support since the conflict renewed. Some criticize Hamas but most, understanding it is their only defense against Israel, lean towards supporting it. I said war is Netanyahu's shield because during a war, it is very very unusual to topple a regime.....and with peace, there would likely be a dissolution of Knesset, which would prompt new elections, and polls show Netanyahu would not be reappointed but replaced: "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party would remain as the largest faction in the Knesset if elections were held today, but he would have no clear route to forming a government, with his right-religious coalition receiving about 50 of the unicameral parliament’s 120 seats, according to a poll aired Thursday." (poll was a few months ago).
It's amazing how in an age of livestreaming genocide that we're still able to witness such bald-faced lies coming from Netanyahu and company. And of course the propagandist mainstream media will push these lies out there and whip up more hatred and vengeance among the public. Really, I didn't think anyone could dream up such racist depraved lies to justify continuing a genocide, but I was wrong. Evil exists and its name is Israel. #FreePalestine
The thing about lies is that they have always worked for them in the past, and those who tell them know no other way. The entire premise, settler-colonialism, turned out to be no longer acceptable at the time this one was taking place, so what else can one do to gain public support? You must pretend, not only that you aren't doing what you are doing, but that you are the victim. This has been successful for decades, and the perpetrators don't seem to have the flexibility to change.
I'm not sure Israel is the only evil on the planet. I think it has a lot of company. .... and if there is blame to throw around, there's no shortage of land on which to throw it.
Let me try and get this straight. You are saying that people living in their own homes, many for generations, and the people who came and forced them out, are both evil?
That both sides are equally evil, is perhaps true if you buy into the biblical idea of original sin, but for those who are capable of rational thought, it is obvious nonsense to be immediately rejected. No one should ever believe that victim and victimizers are equally culpable.
Take note Zionists, Jews, Israelis, Fellow Travellers, Neocons, US lawmakers, Australia’s weak politicians, Western white Christians and governments……..
"A law against hating Jews is usually the beginning of the end for the Jews.”
Joseph Goebbels.
Best example…..ANTISEMITISM, an Israeli created lying propaganda device in full swing.
For those who do not know of Joseph Goebbels, a most effective 1939-1945 German version of what is now the disgraced bulk of the western mainstream media.
Simply, The Third Reich Master of Propaganda…..still quoted widely today.
Now there’s a man who knew a lie when he saw……no,…. wrote one. Even so, compared to the current Israeli / USA output of lies and more lies every day, an amateur.
Indeed, an amateur. Calling yourself "Reich Minister of Propaganda" is the worst possible start for any propagandist. It amounts to openly announcing that you are going to tell lies. Professional liars don't make such pathetic mistakes.
The British did a better job, long before Goebbels, in WWI. You can read about that in Arthur Ponsonby's book “Falsehood in Wartime”, first published in 1928. Still worth reading. I would even say: more than ever.
I will make once and for all for you very clear:"You should not kill others!" The ten commandments (bible, everyone who listens to this commandments is a believer... The rest who do not want to listen to this commandments are 'nothing' compare them identity! Do the commandments make thenself very clear? I think so!) So your claim is bullsh*t speaking!!!!!!
My understanding of his comment is that if you make a law against hating Jews, or Israelis in many cases, a common practice in all the weak governments like Australia and so many others, It becomes a law in the minds of the majority that just draws attention to what they are doing that is so repulsive. In other words, a law “protecting them” and their crimes is really drawing attention to their crimes and actions. Certainly relying on the MSM fails miserably to advise of those crimes. Once again….graft.
Antisemitism law, as an action against anyone who criticises Israel and its genocide, ethnic cleansing et al, which is precisely what it is planned to do (hiding the facts) has been well planned and because of the current electoral climate in Australia, as an example, and the funding that is likely to result from the local dual citizen resident enclaves, historically proven, the political parties then overreact to something that is well planned …….for that very reason.
I would think that is understandable. A smaller example of the USA today.
Look at the USA. Trump got into his new role based on hundreds of million of dollars from Adelson and her Casinos and Musk and his motor vehicles and who, through the likes of AIPAC in the US, now control the votes of 86% of that Israeli-controlled Senate and House. An absolute disgrace.
Democratic? Hardly. It is graft, a fact of life in the USA for decades.
Students objecting to the crimes by Israel in Gaza …antisemitism? Nonsense.
That very same nonsense protected by law by corrupt governments.
Followers of Judge Nap have probably heard this but for those who haven't, Larry Johnson - a former CIA Intelligence Analyst - spilled the beans on the "Murdered Babies" at about the 7 min mark. But the whole thing is well worth watching:
If you take into account how many people in America believe the continuous atrocious lies of Israel is it any wonder that we elected a president who is a pathological liar?
Waking up is not an option for the comatose walking dead.
Rarely do I disagree with you my friend : ) I do believe that is changing at a rapid rate. Most likely not out of compassion but greed, unwilling to support the Genocide any longer. I will take either in the loss of support : )
Let us hope you are mistaken in your assessment. From my perspective of knowing what Israel was all about for more than 6 decades, I have seen the walking dead awaken. There are millions who are protesting worldwide, and this very format on which we are writing, is proof of that. Realizing that the scales can drop from the eyes is a good starting place, knowing that it isn't true of everyone, but maybe many more than you think.
I take it that you meant to write "If you take into account how many people in America believe the continuous atrocious lies of Israel is it any wonder that we always elect presidents who are pathological liars?"
And this is also partly why Iran took great pains to avoid causing Israeli civilian casualties with its missile strikes. We'd have been deluged with stories about their victims - notably absent from the victims of the IDF, both Palestinian AND Israeli on Oct 7th.
The other reason is that the Islamic State is simply civilised, and not as pure barbaric as Israel and its Western backers.
Exodus 20:16, ““You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” MMMMmmmmmm ???? 2 Israeli children ....... tortured and killed by Hamas according to Israeli forensics ???? Could they be lying, or is it more likely they were killed by the same Israeli bombs that slaughtered 18,000 Palestinian children from a genocide..... Somehow, I must still be dreaming and need to wake up, or was I living in a make-believe world that I clearly misunderstood...... 'The truth shall set you free' .was the theme of my dream, but then I realized that the fantasy was not on planet Earth...
Bearing images of Netanyahu & Trump, the leaflets threaten Palestinians with “Trump’s mandatory plan” which “will impose forced displacement upon you whether you accept it or not,” and then insidiously suggest that “the world map will not change if all the people of Gaza cease to exist. No one will feel for you, and no one will ask about you. You have been left alone to face your inevitable fate. Neither America nor Europe care about Gaza in any way. Even your Arab countries, which are now our allies, provide us with money and weapons while sending you only shrouds.”
The message speaks for itself. The conveyance of unveiled criminal intent wrapped up in perverse and inhumane degradation. An act of psychological terrorism.
So, if such a crime were to be proven by independent investigators since nothing the Israelis say could be trusted, how would that compare to the well documented atrocities committed by Israeli snipers of shooting children, including toddlers, in the head and heart?
Anyone who thinks the remains of two small bodies, after 15 months, who were killed by Israeli bombs which suffocated them and/or, tore their bodies apart, would retain such evidence is truly gullible.
And if it did, how could anyone know whether or not the mother in total trauma decided to save her little ones from a worse fate, ripped apart by Israeli bombs?
Given the fact that the Palestinian Resistance/Hamas, said in November 23 they had all been killed by Israeli bombs, why in the name of sanity would they, since hostages, living ones, have value, have strangled two little kids?
This whole thing smacks of more Israeli excuses to murder more Palestinians, nearly half of them children, as it did when it invented beheaded babies, microwaved babies and babies hung on lines, all utterly debunked long ago.
The horrifying thing is that anyone is stupid enough to believe such blatant lies.
Oh, the MSM believes it. Last night the ABC evening news presented IsraHell’s nonsense as “facts” meanwhile completely neglecting the fact that the Ziopathic Vampires have ACTUALLY murdered tens of thousands of Palestinian children.
Gotta serve Massa, for certain. Different Massa this time around.
what else did you expect from abc ?
"That which has been presented without evidence may be dismissed without evidence . It applies to arguments , it applies to claims by US/ Isr. intelligence agencies ".
- do not remember who has said, but i'm sure he/she was a smart one.
Blackbird, we suffer through it waiting for Jeopardy, lol.
The death of every child from wars is anil in our own coffin. What happens in Gaza, or anywhere else for that matter, on the planet that is getting smaller by the minute, happens everywhere. Today, it's 18,000 Palestinian children, tomorrow ........... All it would take is someone more stupid than the rest of us to launch nuclear arsenals, and that's where our story ends. Gaza will have come home to roost.
The reason why principles of justice, rule of law, democracy, human rights and common human decency need to be defended is because what we allow to be done to others we allow to be done to ourselves and we betray every shred of human decency in the doing.
Like it or not, civility in real terms is a slippery term at best... and Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' condition for humans is front and center of human interactions. It's not pretty, but an ever-present condition of life, human life included.
More so in an increasingly brain damaged world.
With a million or more words to describe the human condition, the opportunity to get it wrong increases with the amount f available rhetoric. Moreover, when political terms become intertwined with basic economics, good luck with finding much commonality. One adage from some sources reveals that 'simplicity is not easy to find, but most effective when you do. The nature of evolution is that if it works, don't correct..... The K.I.S.S. principle is best to keep brains from becoming chronically malfunctional.
I am sure there are trillions of words to describe the human condition and since humans are varied, each unique, curious and adventurous, it is not surprising. The best simplicity is striving to deal in facts. And yes, sometimes what are called facts are not absolute facts but that is where common sense comes in. Our journey always.
Ripped apart by Israeli bombs? If they were hit by a bomb, the change is more higher that there were nothing left of the body! But that is sure mine opinion about that!
First of all pal, learn to speaking fuckin’ English.
There are SOOOOO many ways to die in wars ( genocides) than a direct hit by a bomb.
White phosphorus used by the Ziovampires, anyone?
Not true, as seen with many of the bodies of Palestinians. There is more to a bomb then the direct hit as with a bullet. The over pressure collapses building and tunnels. I am not a military expert, however physics I know.
Drop a pebble in a pond.
If you look at the Palestinian dead and injured, particularly given that the Israelis take out entire apartment blocks and hundreds of people at a time, there are many who are mangled but retrievable. And you don’t need much to establish DNA.
Children in particular are shredded more effectively because of their size. These bombs not only send tons of concrete crashing down onto people but they suffocate by removing oxygen and then some suffocate in concrete dust, particularly children.
Who knows how much was left of the Bibas children or their mother, not much if the body of the mother was mixed up with a Palestinian woman. And she would have been with her children. To claim they can identify pressure to the two tiny throats from human hands is a real stretch, particularly after 16 months. But Israeli lies get more and more stupid.
Anything Israel says is a lie unless proven otherwise. And some proof it must be.
So if you meet with these historians
I'll tell you what to say
Tell them that the Nazis
Never really went away
They're out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies
And we'll never rest again...
Until every Nazi dies.
--Chumbawamba - On the day the Nazi died
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUQu5K8lp8
Israel now, Israel forever,
That’s what you should want in case you endeavor
To take all the land for miles around
And banish the Arabs from sanctified ground.
Zionism is what it is called.
Ignore all the folks who act so appalled.
They’re just anti-Semites
Who don’t understand
Your real estate god promised you land!
A land with no people, at least not white ones,
And you have to admit: those are the right ones.
So what if they’re fascist?
So what if they kill?
You must give them money and weapons until
That glorious day when God will come back
And burn up all of the heathens who lack
The proper religion, the proper skin color
The proper this, that, and something-or-other…
For now rest assured that
Congress is owned
By righteous Zios who appear to be cloned
From the ribs of the Adelsons: Sheldon and Miriam
Who keep Donald Trump in financial delirium.
He does what he’s told
And makes even so bold
As to say he’ll buy Gaza
(That real estate’s gold!)
And damn anyone who cannot abide
The brutal and senseless bloody tide
Of Israel’s ongoing genocide.
Funded by US
And roundly supported
By American fascists
Who all have purported
That dead children don’t matter
When Israel says “Kill ‘em!”
Tel Aviv sends us wish lists
Our job is to fill ‘em.
You say that you like your right to free speech?
I’m sorry, you civil libertarian leech.
That amendment is voided where Israel’s concerned.
In fact the whole Constitution should burn
When anyone dares utter a word against Zios
To the colonial project you’d better be pious.
So give up your kvetching
Your keffiyahs and outrage.
From our book of apartheid
You’d do well to take a page.
Submit to the cause
With nary a pause.
And straight to hell with
Your human rights laws.
We’re in for the long haul
Ignore that damn Josh Paul
We plan to take it all…
And really, who will stop us?
Astoundingly well done. I particularly loved "civil libertarian leech" and Sheldon and Miriam keeping Trump in delirium!!
Megan , just… OMG! Did you write this? Just beyond words.
Should be required reading for EVERYONE!
I second that opinion - everyone should read this.
Much appreciated. Yes, it came from my addled mind.
That’s one Beautiful Addled Mind.
Megan your mind is far from addled! R-E-S-P-E—C-T !
😵💫🥱😭🤡
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What’s with the stupid emojis, bitch?
Vin 👏👏👏
I had never thought that or tried not to. I am so afraid you are very right : ( What does that tells us about going forward with this evil, yes evil country? Someone had asked me 1.5 yrs. ago IF israel should still exist considering it only exists with the support of the number one Evil Empire, the u.s. (lowercase for disrespect). When I was young I never thought I would say that about another country or my own even though I disagreed with all of the war and interference in other countries, Vietnam etc. IF only we had a group of Nations that were United in stopping war and Genocide. israel is dead, they committed suicide, slow motion but the worlds people not the governments has made this happen. I had hoped Iran would end this nightmare with the backing of BRICS and a security agreement with Russia. China had the power in one day to end this nightmare and be the kind of power for good. They failed us. I had written to the Chinese Ambassador to the u.s. about bringing, food, healthcare directly to a port I know would not float away is a gentle wind like Genocide Joe's dock of mock. The reply, Blah, Blah, Blah. Change will come my friend, I still believe Caitlin and others can bring us together. Workers Strike Back Today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-45vvvousc
Hi my dear Landru
I sent an e-mail to Vladimir Putin suggesting that if he assisted the Gazans, they’d undoubtedly be willing to give Russia a port on the Mediterranean.
Didn’t here back, guess he’s busy 😞
Russia has 2 military bases in Syria . Tartus a naval base on the Mediterranean and
Latakia.
Not any more in Syria, I’m afraid.
And? What are their capabilities? How do they stack up against NATO in the region plus Israel being a NATO proxy?
I do not know what they are capable of, but In case of need it's better to have them there. Is't it ?
Arab countries should and will do the job. - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1C5O3JRjRhg
You make rather bold accusations against Russia, China, BRICS claiming they "could do something". You should spell out what they could do. Not in terms of infantile wishful thinking but by providing concrete actions with solid backing. Try doing it on your own without crutches of internet gurus of the Ritter type who should have discredited themselves by now in the eyes of their congregations if only idolators could think for themselves.
As to lying and putting all the evils associated with it solely on Israel; well, Israel is just a current manifestation of it, a 10 on the target, since it combines lying with atrocious actions based on it. All of the West is equal if not superior in lying thereby enabling Israel do what it does. The West is therefore no less responsible for it.
Hence, you don't need to fight Israel not being an Israeli and lamenting the fact. Fight your own government which enables it. Cut the hand feeding the monster. And the monster will be tamed until the next convenient time - what current Europe perfectly demonstrates.
I'm not sure what you think I wrote. I did not imply the Russians should attack israel. I said with Iran being in the BRICS and a security packet with Russia. Iran could end this nightmare in a few days. israel is the size of New Jersey with few people. China could easily roll up to the coast with Hospital and cargo ships to supply Palestine with it's needs defying israel to attack or stop it with cover of international law. So, I won't bother you anymore.
Yep, they could “easily” do what commander Landru proscribed. Silly them. Must lack bravery the cowards.
The criminal's playbook includes the dictum to always blame the other side for what they themselves are guilty of .
They've known for many months those poor babies were killed in an airstrike and they've been sitting on it for this moment. The children are the victims, always, in this bullshit. And now their memory is being twisted to justify murdering more children. I know that everyone who supports this actually hates themselves very deeply, deep down inside, and they should.
I just finished writing about this before reading Caitlin's article. Netanyahu, whose shield is war, is looking for any pretext to resume the genocide, and so while Hamas, which has NO motive to resume the bloodshed, has admitted it made an error after Israeli DNA tests show the woman delivered was not the hostage intended, and it has, reasonably, explained that she (an the children) were pulled out of a bombed out building and mistakenly thought to be the woman in question. Hamas has no DNA analysis to confirm identity so must go, in the case of people lying in the rubble of large concrete buildings on proximity. I have concluded there is no reason to believe Netanyahu that Hamas deliberately sabotaged a ceasefire they have sought for over a year nor to doubt Hamas, which admits to an error. I recall one of the released hostages telling the press that they, the hostages, feared IDF bombing as threats to their lives rather than Hamas, for whom living hostages have more value in bargaining terms. Even the Israeli's know that Netanyahu's political survival and escape from prison (he faces 3 corruption trials) is based on being at war and so he has done everything possible to keep the blood flowing. Hamas, as reason would suggest, desires equally for the attack on them and their neighbors, to stop.
People who would slaughter tens of thousands of women and children wouldn't hesitate to lie or to use a false and absurd accusation to resume the genocide, which is the means by which they maintain power.
People believe what it suits them to believe. The fact the deaths of these children were announced 15 months ago is ignored. They want to believe the worst of the Palestinians in general and Hamas in particular and so they will. Let us hope they are the exception not the rule.
And how much could be identified in two little bodies crushed under concrete, or torn apart by a bomb, particularly after 16 months of decomposition. Does Hamas have refrigerated morques? Doubtful.
To strangle a baby and small child does not take much strength, let alone the power to do damage which could be identified 16 months of rotting later. And since these massive bombs often suffocate victims, particularly children. But for shitraelis it is enough to wish it were true to say that it is.
Unless the whole world is blind: Arabs do not kill civilians. This has been shown by their air strikes not on civilians but on army equipment centres. To expect Hamas to kill these kids and mother is bullshit.
seems an optimistic view to say the least, and saying "Arabs" is just like saying "Jews" - it's not helpful to lump people together in those terms. Some people from all sides kill civilians.
We understand the meaning. Zionists not Jews. I walk with great people in protest. Jewish voices for Peace. Zionists want most of us dead, for the resurrection.
I agree its not a good idea to 'lump' people together.
Yemens airstrikes .........how many were killed?
Well, there is no truth in war. The future of the momentarily suspended one is not dependent on which atrocity is the most famous at the moment, but on the cold political calculations of men like Trump, Musk, and Netanyahu. In the recent past, they somehow turned up for a truce and there was a pause in the killing. There was, maybe, a little breeze of reason passing by? Maybe it could happen again!
"A new United Nations report has projected that the death toll from Yemen’s war will reach 377,000 by the end of 2021...."
If you mean the war on Yemen yes. Most of those that died starved by we in the u.s. through our proxy Saudi Arabia who have turned their backs on the heroes of Yemen, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria.
I don't quite agree Jenny.... Didn't Hamas kill civilians on October 7, 2023. In fact, the human species in general does killings, starting in its own back yards where homeless encampments dot the planet.
Yes, however as reported by the israeli defense force, the Hannibal directive it seems killed more than half of those killed through, helicopter missile and tank attacks. Most of those killed by Hamas were israei military. So there is that truth. Anyone dying in an attempt to break out prison gets a bit of leeway from me. The Palestinian people have far more patience than I do. Even as a peaceful person by nature, deleted remainder.....
While Israeli troops did kill some Israelis, it is not true that there is any report or evidence they killed half of them. Most killed by Hamas were NOT military...just under 700 civilians were killed and about 500 military. Giving leeway to killing 260 young people at a music festival is complicit in murder.....
Since Israel only ever lies and since there has been no independent investigation then the only source for how many were killed by the Palestinian Resistance, and civilians, code-name Hamas, is Israel. Ergo, nothing that we know at this point can be considered to be accurate. Given the Hannibal Directive and the fact that so much and so many were incinerated which is something the Palestinians could not do, since they do not possess the weapons, it is reasonable to say that most were killed by the Israeli army.
At the music festival people and cars were incinerated - Israel did that. At the Kibbutzhim, people and homes were incinerated. Israel did that. And in fact a number of Israeli survivors clearly stated they saw their own military do it. This was very early in the piece before Fizzrael's propaganda machine silenced them.
So, what do we know at this point? On October 7 the Palestinian resistance broke out of the Gaza concentration camp and they comprised around a dozen different factions. Hamas is the most organised and most professional and there is no reason not to believe, as they said, that they targeted military personnel which is perfectly legitimate.
One could also argue that since most Israeli adults serve, have served, remain reservists in the military that most are also legitimate targets for a Resistance militia. There are very few civilians. One could also argue all adult colonial occupiers are guilty of the crime of occupation.
It is also known that Palestinians civilians, mostly young men in their Twenties, broke out of the concentration camp after the fighters and there is some evidence they attacked civilians. As no doubt Jewish civilians would have done if they had broken out of the Warsaw Ghetto and found Germans dancing and singing on their land.
Without an independent enquiry it is wise to completely ignore anything the Israelis say about October 7 and to treat with caution what is said to have come from Hamas, unless it is a clear statement made by the Palestinian Resistance. Even then, caution is wise.
Yes, your comments seem accurate, but Hamas knew some of them were civilians did they not? I was only referring to Jenny's comment about Palestinians not killing civilians, nothing more. The rest us still speculating....
Unfortunately the label Hamas is applied generally by Israel, as indeed it must, to convince the gullible that it faces a clear and present danger from such a demonic force.
There are around 12 factions in the Palestinian Resistance with varying degrees of efficacy and professionalism and Hamas would be top of the list. At least we think, how would we know?
Hamas has been highly efficient in helping to make life bearable for the prisoners in the Gaza concentration camp as even international aid groups have stated.
But, not everything done by Palestinians or by Palestinian Resistance factions is the fault of Hamas. I would imagine there was significant chaos after October 7 and it took a long while for even Hamas to gain control and understanding of who did what and who had what.
There was one instance where some Israeli hostages were released in a deal done by a family who had kidnapped them. I do not believe they were part of the Resistance factions but simply an opportunistic group.
Most that we hear about Hamas comes from the Israelis and is therefore not worth a pinch of salt.
Yes there were killings on Oct 7th but if you look at how the Arabs do war it is highly unusual to kill civilians unless they are in the wrong place. It is my understanding that the Disco event in Israel was moved nearer to the Palestinian border. Why?
There were killings?.....young music loves were "at the wrong place" and so Hamas Arabs did not murder them, but "there were killings."
Re Saudi bombings in Yeman: "Nearly 15,000 civilians have been killed by direct military action, most of them in air strikes by the Saudi-led Coalition.
Air raids have frequently targeted civilian gatherings such as weddings and busy market places where there was no military target nearby, often with extremely deadly consequences." Perhaps these people were in the wrong place?
As I have said Dale: I apologised for 'lumping' all Arabs together.
When Iran shot missiles into Israel, how many people were killed?
There was one Palestinian in the wrong place unfortunately. They aimed at some airfield NOT Civilians.
Most were incinerated by the Israeli military. The photos make that clear.
And as an American Jewish writer said months ago, if Jews had broken out of the Warsaw Ghetto and found Nazis dancing and singing on the other side they would no doubt have attacked them violently as well.
What sick fucker sets up a music festival outside a concentration camp?
Thankyou for comparing Israel to Saudi and not the Western democracies of which it claims to be a part. you have that right.
Jenny, My comment was more in response to your comment suggesting that Hamas did not kill civilians, which was not the case Oct. 7... Killing each other is a species problem that belongs to the entire tribe.
The admitted use of the Hannibal Directive by the israeli Genocide Force has changed the narrative. Family's now know why the Genocide force buried the vehicles people and all. Missile strikes on cars and trucks hard to hide.
Then why did Satanyahoo ignore the warnings of his OWN SOLDIERS as well as the Egyptian government? WHY were troops moved AWAY from the border?
Satanyahoo was holed up in his bunker gleefully rubbing his hands together and telling himself, NOW’S my big chance!
Maybe. you're correct, but it is still speculation that there existed a conspiracy, a condition that is not necessarily the case.
Speculation?
It’s as obvious as the nose on your face!
https://open.substack.com/pub/asawinstanley/p/watch-yoav-gallant-admitting-use?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=qkflb
Pietro, Although the directive may have been genuine, the action from the Israelis only came about because of the attack by Hamas, which was the topic involved in Jenny's comment.
The "lawnmower" was fueled up and ready to go just like many times before John....
https://ips-dc.org/destroying-the-lawn-in-gaza/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html
I cringe at the term "shitraelis" as the Israelis are also victims of a vile and corrupt regime . Otherwise , I agree with you but we hurt our cause when we stoop to this level of hate speech.
Research and in person interviews shows that the vast majority of Israeli citizens are fully on board with the genocide of their Palestinian neighbours. Pity them not for they know EXACTLY what they do.
To be fair, if, for example, you polled German civilians in 1916 or whatever, the number not on board with their country's war would be similarly small.
Humans are herd animals.
Feral , it’s GOOD not to be one!
the ai-bot says they're not biologically classified as such, but there's lots of overlap. there's also herd-animals that are 'managed' (exploited) by a different species instead of an actual member of the group.
also 'lions are the only felines that live in structured, long-term social groups (prides). other felines are mostly solitary or form temporary or less structured groups.'
Germans in 1916 weren't deliberately committing genocide against women and little kids.
They were accused of it, however.
A majority support military retaliation but a majority also favors an end to the war, and they do NOT see the military action as genocide, (as I do). Similarly, most Palestinians supported the Hamas attack but based on NOT believing they killed civilians Beliefs based on falsehoods...on both sides.
They “favor an end to the war” because they’re piss-poor soldiers and don’t want to fight it. Gitcher shit together, Dale.
"The IDF’s successes are mostly not due to operational competence but rather to the fighting spirit of the Israeli soldiers on the ground ' I find your opinions idiotic and your insult despicable.
The reason for changing the name is not to protect the innocent because they are clearly guilty, but to avoid the bots which target the official name.
I can use Fizzraeli or Sickraeli if it helps. Calling them shitraelis is not hate speech it is fact speech. And yes, they are victims but not of a vile and corrupt regime, but of themselves and they are willing victims. The regime which runs Israel is supported by virtually every Israeli, mind, body, not sure we can include souls and while there are some exceptions they are few and rare.
Israelis and their supporters are mentally ill, brainwashed to hate and kill and I have deep compassion for all of them, particularly the young sick soldiers.
Soon israel will be ended, that I am sure the world is seeing to it although to slowly for me. With that much hate from birth (turning that troupe around) can israeli's live in the New Palestine or will they leave as they have been doing? A whistleblower has released the true death toll of the israeli Genocide Force, at 20k, that will haunt them I hope.
I agree Landru. As the Arabs talk in Saudi at the moment. This is the first time Egypt and Jordan have stood up to USA and said no.
Anyone could work out the Israeli death toll was much higher. Everyone lies in war and the rough count of eight wounded to every one dead has probably improved to ten wounded for every dead body. The reason so many have taken to the streets wanting the war to end is because of so many funerals. Although they still want the bombs dropping on the Palestinians. They just don’t want their soldiers fighting.
There's a North American tour of brave Refuseniks starting in early March! Their first visit is to Montreal, March 4. Organized by some pro-peace Jewish-based groups.
Compassion for the wrong people, Roslyn… sorry,
Everyone deserves compassion particularly the most damaged. Hold them accountable sure, but retain compassion.
You are clearly using hate speech, which is speech meant to degrade a population based, in this case on nationality, ignoring that many Israelis are denouncing the current regime for stonewalling an end to the war and 20% of Israelis are Arab. Add to your crime of hate speech, which is a fascist practice, the crime of hypocrisy and bad faith. Using hate speech hurts the cause of the Palestinians by making their defenders look like Nazis.
Sadly, more and more of an overwhelming majority of the remaining Israelis (many have left in the past few years) are visciously anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, and anti-Christian (v. the denominations that have been present in Palestine for 100's and 100's of years). The brave peace activists remaining are threatened and attacked.
Happy to use Fizzraelis if Shit bothers you. AND NO MANY ISRAELIS ARE NOT DENOUCING THE CURRENT REGIME for its genocide. They want more Palestinians killed. Calling people names does not make a case but says you cannot make a case and so resort to insults.
I very much doubt any fascist has ever defended rule of law, justice, human rights, democracy and common human decency as I am doing.
As to 20% of Israelis being Arab, get the terminology right. There are no non-Jews who are Israelis, which is the accurate name for Arabs, a culture, Arabic speakers actually because Israel denies nationality to all non-Jews. Ergo, there are no non-Jewish Israelis. The only nationality is Jewish. Indeed, there is no Israeli nationality fullstop because in 2018 the State decreed the only nationality is religious - Jewish.
Israel and Israelis do not actually exist. They need to change the name to Jewdistan.
The non-Jews living in what is called Israel are in their homeland of Palestine. They were not driven out in 47/48 or 67 but the plan is to exterminate or expel them. That has been stated. You talk about hypocrisy and bad faith. What a hypocrite.
As to making defenders of justice for Palestine look like Nazis, believe me, the Israelis took that role on long ago. Most people use far worse names for sickraelis and they are universally detested for the truly bestial and shitty things that they do and have done for 76 years.
"According to the country’s Central Bureau of Statistics, there were 9,021,000 people in Israel as of 2019, and approximately 74.24% were Jews of different backgrounds, 20.95% were Arabs of different religions, while the other remaining 4.81% were persons who were categorized as others. "
IsraHellis are not victims of a goddamned thing. Do you prefer “psychoraelis” ?
True and well said friend. What hurts, israel has committed suicide and it didn't have to be. Ilan Pappe on Katie Halper's podcast predicted israel will not exist in less than 10 yrs. as the world turned against it and with we in the u.s. no longer able to support countries endless terror.
Yes, the mistake of confusing governments with the people they rule over.
Yes, this is the great crime of the current Israeli regime, to punish the people of Gaza for the actions of Hamas......which of course was supported by Netanyahu for 14 yr.......
Hamas is part of the Palestinian Resistance and perfectly legitimate under international law with a right to take up arms against the savages who occupy them and their country.
Most that people hear about Hamas comes from the Sickraelis, who are liars. Hamas, according to international aid groups has been highly effective in creating a level of sanity and function in the Gaza concentration camp. They are organised and they are professional as a militia and as a prisoner support group.
The great crime of the Israeli regime is that it exists as a fascist, racist, apartheid, military colonial State, inflicting sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery on the Palestinians for 76 years in the name of supremacism.
Good on you Roslyn Ross, World opinion - if there is any such thing- does not credit Hamas as a resistance movement "creating a level of sanity and function in the Gaza concentration camp". And the fact that they were successful in doing so was anathema to the Israelis.
To condemn Israel and Netanyahu, which supported Hamas for 14 years, and defend Hamas, which accepted this support, and likely would have collapsed without it, seems absurd.
Hamas committed war crimes on Oct 7. There is no international law that sanctions killing peaceful civilians. This law applies to all.......Hamas, the IDF, all!
what's 'our cause' again?
Netanyahu, whose shield is war? I do not know if this a sure claim to say that... But that is not now the case, the case here in is who are the people of both sides of this war? They have both not a shame to kill each other, that is a fact! Now a other question must be answer. How much hate have each side against each other? Is hamas hate 300%? And the mossad hate is 200%? Or is the both side the same equal hatred to each other? We will never know untile we have proof of evidence from the source were they get them hate from to hate someone without a reason! I know one fact if someone want to do to get his enemy (enemy?) down, than they will do everything in their power to falsely accuse the enemy of their own actions! That is a rule that comes directly from the psychopathic thought process of their own actions. That can be shooting their own children or children of their side, cutting, throwing grenades at them to make it look like the enemy did it! And that is most of the reasons why a certain group calls for war. This same group will do everything they can to use anything they can to justify their psychopathic goals. And that is in my opinion their goal to keep fighting the enemy, even if it is not their enemy! The psychopath thinks that to himself it is (not being able to think better about doing the exact opposite of what they are doing!)
Netanyahu's who claims Hamas uses civilians as a shield and thus justifies killing them, uses Hamas and war as his shield, for if he agreed to a peace, he would be ousted from office and face prison if convicted in his delayed 3 corruption trials. War, and the continued existence of Hamas, protect his power and his autonomy. It does not take a psychopath to understand that his power and status are based on a war emergency condition.
It has nothing to do with emergency codition! So you try to avoid the reason why? And you apparently don't get it! I wasn't talking about israel but about hamas! "hate reasons for war"! What hate reason does hamas have to destroy Israël? I'm not speak alone about hamas but also about the other side... The only question is does "Israël" hate the other side? Come with good facts than just a answer to answer the question!....
Regimes are virtually never replaced during emergencies such as wars. If not for war, Knesset would likely dissolve itself and have new elections and polls show Netanyahu would be replaced. BTW, I never said Hamas wants to destroy Israel, tho in the past it has expressed this mission. In its latest manifesto of 2017, it expresses a desire to crush not the Jews and not Israel but the Zionist project to destroy Palestine, and a very high ranking official recently said Hamas would lay down arms in exchange for statehood, recognizing virtually all current borders.
And we all know that Hamas and Netanyahu are liars, no matter how they do it or want to do it, they lie about everything as they want! That is no secret in terms of history in terms of all kinds of wars that have ever been fought!
"Hamas uses civilians as a shield and thus justifies killing them"... This is indeed true that Hamas uses this as a justification technique to continue waging war for their own reason! Both sides are guilty of waging war against the people in their war or wars. That is not a secret or a lie from Netanyahu.... Even Palestinians (survivor of a certain war, etc.) have said this themselves about Hamas waging war as their method of waging this kind of war as one of their methods...
In fact, Hamas has gained public support since the conflict renewed. Some criticize Hamas but most, understanding it is their only defense against Israel, lean towards supporting it. I said war is Netanyahu's shield because during a war, it is very very unusual to topple a regime.....and with peace, there would likely be a dissolution of Knesset, which would prompt new elections, and polls show Netanyahu would not be reappointed but replaced: "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party would remain as the largest faction in the Knesset if elections were held today, but he would have no clear route to forming a government, with his right-religious coalition receiving about 50 of the unicameral parliament’s 120 seats, according to a poll aired Thursday." (poll was a few months ago).
It's amazing how in an age of livestreaming genocide that we're still able to witness such bald-faced lies coming from Netanyahu and company. And of course the propagandist mainstream media will push these lies out there and whip up more hatred and vengeance among the public. Really, I didn't think anyone could dream up such racist depraved lies to justify continuing a genocide, but I was wrong. Evil exists and its name is Israel. #FreePalestine
The thing about lies is that they have always worked for them in the past, and those who tell them know no other way. The entire premise, settler-colonialism, turned out to be no longer acceptable at the time this one was taking place, so what else can one do to gain public support? You must pretend, not only that you aren't doing what you are doing, but that you are the victim. This has been successful for decades, and the perpetrators don't seem to have the flexibility to change.
I'm not sure Israel is the only evil on the planet. I think it has a lot of company. .... and if there is blame to throw around, there's no shortage of land on which to throw it.
Sorry to say it! But it is both sides of evil!
Let me try and get this straight. You are saying that people living in their own homes, many for generations, and the people who came and forced them out, are both evil?
That both sides are equally evil, is perhaps true if you buy into the biblical idea of original sin, but for those who are capable of rational thought, it is obvious nonsense to be immediately rejected. No one should ever believe that victim and victimizers are equally culpable.
He did not say that: the sides would be the Israeli military and Hamas, both guilty of war crimes, so the Israeli crimes are much greater in scale.
YOU are evil is you believe that.
Apparently you don't even know what "evil" means if you're such an expert at being bad to others!
Of course. And just like the babies on bayonets atrocity porn used in WWI, it worked and it keeps working.
Humans never wise up.
Take note Zionists, Jews, Israelis, Fellow Travellers, Neocons, US lawmakers, Australia’s weak politicians, Western white Christians and governments……..
"A law against hating Jews is usually the beginning of the end for the Jews.”
Joseph Goebbels.
Best example…..ANTISEMITISM, an Israeli created lying propaganda device in full swing.
For those who do not know of Joseph Goebbels, a most effective 1939-1945 German version of what is now the disgraced bulk of the western mainstream media.
Simply, The Third Reich Master of Propaganda…..still quoted widely today.
Now there’s a man who knew a lie when he saw……no,…. wrote one. Even so, compared to the current Israeli / USA output of lies and more lies every day, an amateur.
Indeed, an amateur. Calling yourself "Reich Minister of Propaganda" is the worst possible start for any propagandist. It amounts to openly announcing that you are going to tell lies. Professional liars don't make such pathetic mistakes.
The British did a better job, long before Goebbels, in WWI. You can read about that in Arthur Ponsonby's book “Falsehood in Wartime”, first published in 1928. Still worth reading. I would even say: more than ever.
Sorry Herman
They were my words by way of a description of his role in the German heirarchy.
I don't understand why you say sorry. I see no need for that.
Years ago I read in a source I cannot verify that Goebbels wrote, or gave a speech, where he said:
"Even if we (National Socialists) lose, we will win, because we will have planted our ideas (or ideals) in the hearts ( and minds) of the victors".
If this applies to me, can you please tell me which ideas or ideals Goebbels managed to plant in my heart and mind? Thanks in advance.
Not a comment on you sir unless Full Spectrum Dominance, Wonder Weapons and Medical Assistance in Dying are your forté.
I will make once and for all for you very clear:"You should not kill others!" The ten commandments (bible, everyone who listens to this commandments is a believer... The rest who do not want to listen to this commandments are 'nothing' compare them identity! Do the commandments make thenself very clear? I think so!) So your claim is bullsh*t speaking!!!!!!
I’m sorry I don’t understand what you’re talking about. But is that quote really from Goebbels and when was such law instituted?
Yes, Arlette. Definitely from Goebbels.
My understanding of his comment is that if you make a law against hating Jews, or Israelis in many cases, a common practice in all the weak governments like Australia and so many others, It becomes a law in the minds of the majority that just draws attention to what they are doing that is so repulsive. In other words, a law “protecting them” and their crimes is really drawing attention to their crimes and actions. Certainly relying on the MSM fails miserably to advise of those crimes. Once again….graft.
Antisemitism law, as an action against anyone who criticises Israel and its genocide, ethnic cleansing et al, which is precisely what it is planned to do (hiding the facts) has been well planned and because of the current electoral climate in Australia, as an example, and the funding that is likely to result from the local dual citizen resident enclaves, historically proven, the political parties then overreact to something that is well planned …….for that very reason.
I would think that is understandable. A smaller example of the USA today.
Look at the USA. Trump got into his new role based on hundreds of million of dollars from Adelson and her Casinos and Musk and his motor vehicles and who, through the likes of AIPAC in the US, now control the votes of 86% of that Israeli-controlled Senate and House. An absolute disgrace.
Democratic? Hardly. It is graft, a fact of life in the USA for decades.
Students objecting to the crimes by Israel in Gaza …antisemitism? Nonsense.
That very same nonsense protected by law by corrupt governments.
Excellent! Contrarian 33. Thank you.
Thank you for clarifying that
Hi Feral
As a cat in a woman’s body, I can easily discern that humans are sheep without the wooly covering ( I’m forced to deal with them on a daily basis.)
Nothing personal against sheep; they can’t help it if they’re relatively stupid creatures.
Like sheep, humans are herd animals out of necessity.
True, Feral. It’s good not to be one. I may present myself as human, but if you saw my slanted green eyes, you’d recognize a cat inside.
Oh! And if you could have seen my ability at hurdles and running long jump as a half-grown kitten! 😸
Followers of Judge Nap have probably heard this but for those who haven't, Larry Johnson - a former CIA Intelligence Analyst - spilled the beans on the "Murdered Babies" at about the 7 min mark. But the whole thing is well worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uys-d85-iug
The Empire knew all along this was just more BS propoganda.
Already watched it David. Thanks for posting the link for others. Judge Nap’s my favorite.
Monstrous. nutcaseYahoo is the devil incarnate....
If you take into account how many people in America believe the continuous atrocious lies of Israel is it any wonder that we elected a president who is a pathological liar?
Waking up is not an option for the comatose walking dead.
Rarely do I disagree with you my friend : ) I do believe that is changing at a rapid rate. Most likely not out of compassion but greed, unwilling to support the Genocide any longer. I will take either in the loss of support : )
Let us hope you are mistaken in your assessment. From my perspective of knowing what Israel was all about for more than 6 decades, I have seen the walking dead awaken. There are millions who are protesting worldwide, and this very format on which we are writing, is proof of that. Realizing that the scales can drop from the eyes is a good starting place, knowing that it isn't true of everyone, but maybe many more than you think.
I take it that you meant to write "If you take into account how many people in America believe the continuous atrocious lies of Israel is it any wonder that we always elect presidents who are pathological liars?"
The utter sickness of the Zionist mind and those who support such atrocities is to gross to comprehend for sane good human beings.
I would like to see that signage all across the u.s. in every city.
Every accusation from the government is a confession.
So it seems, with added CIA/Mossad spice.
Hmmmm????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
If you don’t get it, you need to STFU and leave.
The IDF ALWAYS Lies. Israel is a malignant Cancer.
And this is also partly why Iran took great pains to avoid causing Israeli civilian casualties with its missile strikes. We'd have been deluged with stories about their victims - notably absent from the victims of the IDF, both Palestinian AND Israeli on Oct 7th.
The other reason is that the Islamic State is simply civilised, and not as pure barbaric as Israel and its Western backers.
Israel is constantly lying to make an excuse to carry on their violence. Thanks for setting the record straight on this incident, Caitlin.
Caitlin didn't tell you the whole truth.
Exodus 20:16, ““You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” MMMMmmmmmm ???? 2 Israeli children ....... tortured and killed by Hamas according to Israeli forensics ???? Could they be lying, or is it more likely they were killed by the same Israeli bombs that slaughtered 18,000 Palestinian children from a genocide..... Somehow, I must still be dreaming and need to wake up, or was I living in a make-believe world that I clearly misunderstood...... 'The truth shall set you free' .was the theme of my dream, but then I realized that the fantasy was not on planet Earth...
You shouldn’t covet what your neighbor has, but Israelis who love to quote the bible ignore what it actually says if it’s convenient for them.
Gawd also said thou shalt not kill. Close to the top so pretty important.
I unfortunately read the replies to the Netanyahu tweet. I need a shower.
That story is now debunked by israeli news sources.
Israeli forces dropped leaflets in Gaza yesterday.
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https://youtu.be/ZhKLxWEGA70?si=cPObzvx0MCGE-ZLY
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Bearing images of Netanyahu & Trump, the leaflets threaten Palestinians with “Trump’s mandatory plan” which “will impose forced displacement upon you whether you accept it or not,” and then insidiously suggest that “the world map will not change if all the people of Gaza cease to exist. No one will feel for you, and no one will ask about you. You have been left alone to face your inevitable fate. Neither America nor Europe care about Gaza in any way. Even your Arab countries, which are now our allies, provide us with money and weapons while sending you only shrouds.”
The message speaks for itself. The conveyance of unveiled criminal intent wrapped up in perverse and inhumane degradation. An act of psychological terrorism.
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https://youtu.be/CjCfp_wXisA?si=uRc2pY9DYdpm21mv