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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Zionism IS anti-semitism. Israel IS anti-semitism. If you really want to get rid of anti-semitism, then GET RID of Israel and Zionism - the two largest reasons for anti-semitism (the third being the U.S. Empire and its support of Israel).

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Susan T's avatar

yes, it is very weird that none of those claiming to know what "globalize the intifada" means have any kind of empathy or brainpower to see that it is the disgustingness of Israel that is the primary cause of Jew hatred these days. Now Israel has created a "yellow line" that Palestinians cannot cross so people live right next to huge piles of garbage with rats, insects and disease. People are getting sick. Some are dying.https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/garbage-poisoning-gaza-landfills-inaccessible-waste-disease?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab694d2-5058-4824-9966-ea11a846ed56_3020x1698.png&open=false

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Feral Finster's avatar

Zionists see antisemitism as a feature, not a bug.

Antisemitism gives Zionists an opportunity to run screaming to their American thug, to demand special pleading and double standards, to insist that ethnic solidarity is their only defense.

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Susan T's avatar
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It's interesting how the Zionists never fail to mention the 6 million Jews murdered in the holocaust, but somehow the other 11 million never get a mention. It is horrible, inhumane and immoral that there was ever a holocaust where anyone was murdered. It is in even worse that the Israeli Zionists whine about how so many of them were murdered and now they are competing with the Nazis.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Hell, bring up the fact that the Holocaust was not the only genocide in history and watch the fur fly.

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John Day MD's avatar

So what if this was an Israeli false flag attack for Hasbara?

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/here-is-everything-the-media-is-not

"The geniuses at Mossad really haven’t learnt from their recent mistakes. They have yet again left their fingerprints all over Google. Google Trends shows two spikes in searches in Israel for one of the shooters—Naveed Akram—in the days before the massacre, and then a huge spike, one day before the massacre."

"Disturbingly, Netanyahu said this massacre was the result of Australia recognising a Palestinian state. That sounds an awful lot like a confession to me. Netanyahu is now demanding that western countries take steps to stop antisemitism from spreading, by which he means ban us from telling the truth about Israel."

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Gawd - another false-flag conspiracy theorist. Debunked already (multiple times).

(1) Bondi Beach Tragedy: Unpacking Baseless Claims of Shooter Naveed Akram’s IDF Links (https://celebsindepth.com/naveed-akram-served-in-idf/)

(2) Misinformation exploits confusion, grief after Bondi attack (https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/misinformation-exploits-confusion-grief-after-bondi-attack/)

There is NO verifiable proof of this 'Google Trend in Israel' narrative (and some random screenshot that anyone can doctor does not pass the evidentiary burden). I ask ANYONE to provide a verifiable link so that everyone that wants to can verify it for themselves (and if you're considering using 'loss of information' as an excuse, then you're likely clueless about how Google Search Trends and data collection of Google metrics and dashboards works).

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Here's some more stuff you can poo-poo, Chang:

Israeli Narrative Debunked- Bondi Terrorists Were Tied To ISIS. https://the307.substack.com/p/israeli-narrative-debunked-bondi

And if you recall, ISIS has a CIA/Mossad connection going back to 2017.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

If anyone believes any of Israel's narratives, they are as much of a sucker as believing this 'false flag theory'.

Here's a critical thinking question for you -> why do you feel compelled to believe a narrative (Israel or someone else's). Why not wait and look at the evidence (all that is and will be available), before 'jumping-the-gun' and coming up with conclusions/opinions that have NO concrete, verifiable evidence?

Why are people so afraid (or is it lazy) to do due diligence and information gathering before believing whatever narratives confirm their biases?

BTW, everything I said above ALSO applies to anyone believing any of Israel's narratives. This is NOT about taking sides or my-group vs. the enemy-group. This is about using systems of analysis to arrive as close to the truth as possible (based on the ever-changing flow of information).

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

The gunmen belonging to ISIS--a group that has ties to CIA and Mossad is not a "fact" in your opinion? I guess they were just working on their own with those guns, which are outlawed in Australia. However did they get those weapons smuggled in after living down under for 6 years? They didn't need any help from a group such as ISIS, or ISIS's friends?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

There you go again. Assuming things. Believing the narrative YOU want to believe.

Regardless of whether the gunmen were ISIS or not, there is NO PROOF of a VERIFIABLE chain-of-evidence linking it to any false flag by Israel.

What you are doing is spurious speculation - i.e. assuming that because ISIS has worked with (and against) CIA, Mossad, (and several other Govts.) it somehow magically means that that is what occurred here.

The CIA has worked with almost everybody (in one way or another). ISIS has worked with AND against the U.S. Govt. and Israel.

Unless you have CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE (rather than pure conjecture and creating patterns from weak connections of dubious quality), you have no proof (other than 'I think' because 'so-and-so in the past' and 'who knows' and 'anything is possible').

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Jim P's avatar

I see your point, Chang and I do agree with it in theory. We should definately wait to see the evidence before we judge something.

The problem i have though, is that over the past few years we see the Governments and media colluding to write how and why events unfold to get to a pre-ordained narrative.

In the Bondi shooting we are already seeing many major media outlets over several different countries using the exact same term to describe why the event happened. This is not a coincidence, it happens all the time in these situations. Mass Media do NOT practice journalism, rather they are mouthpieces of background forces.

People see with their own eyes things that do not 'look right' when events like Bondi happen and when these things are ignored by the people supposedly investigating the event (police, politicians etc.), people rightfully get skeptical.

I dont know the solution to this, it feels to me like whenever something big happens like in Bondi, my immediate thought is skepticism when i hear the media report it.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I guess the shooters did it all by themselves then. They were so clever they could smuggle their weapons into Australia without any problems, and even without being a part of the Jewish community found out all about a Hanukkah party held on a public beach (which is a holiday usually celebrated at home with family). Really smart dudes to do all these things without any assistance!

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Jim's avatar
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Where’s Chang?

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Ian Brown's avatar

A few years ago there was a cut of dozens of news reporters across the US using the exact same Valentine's day script in their broadcast, as directed by Sinclair Broadcasting. Now we have the same phenomena except it's all the Western world's politicians and media repeating the same script of lies, racism, and genocide advocacy. They become Netanyahu's talking heads as if he owned the franchise. SUPER creepy.

Imagine you have an actual antisemitic uncle and you're trying to convince him Jews don't control the world and this comes out. It IS shocking how monolithic and synchronized the Western world is, and what interests appear to hold the most power. The license and power Israel has seems unprecedented. It's a TINY place with a smaller population than Portugal, but they get to tell everyone in the world what to say and think? Something is REALLY rotten if global systems are this weak and easily bought/coopted.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

Big Money rules our world.

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Nancy's avatar

You said it for me, thanks. Not surprised by this, but seeing the same talking point repeated by so many publications, one after the other, is still depressing as hell. It just brings home what we’re up against.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

It's odd, but I don't believe in all the protests and other pro-Palestinian events I've attended over the past two years I've ever heard or chanted “globalize the intifada”. Not once or at least not while I was paying attention. I know that intifada just means to "rise up", so why can't we change the chant/slogan to "Rise up globally and take out the Empire!"? Yeah, let's do that--"Rise up and take out the genocidal regime and its imperialist funders!"

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jamenta's avatar

The Emperor does have the Death Star, and can blow up our planet at any time RC! And what if Darth Vader finds your rebel base?? What then?

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I'll have to ask Yoda what to do then.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

He would say, "use the Force."

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dale ruff's avatar

Against this massive propaganda tsunami, I will quote a man murdered for turning against the dominant narrative and turning instead to peace: "“Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth.” — John F. Kennedy

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Anyone who's not resisting the idea, the ethos, the fucking ongoing existence of a group of psychopaths who use dogs to anally rape prisoners . . . anyone who's not resisting that is asleep. Or twisted in their own right.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

More important than ever! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing will continue to be vital in tracking down and bringing the culprits to justice. This is an ongoing project and worthy of support. Let’s hope they may soon turn their sights on the corporate and governmental accomplices in the west.

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wrknight's avatar
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Interesting word "infitada" which in arabic means uprising and was applied to the Palestinian uprising Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza in 1987. Now an uprising is a reaction to something else and the question those who claim the globalization of infitada need to ask themselves, what the cause of their uprising?

Maybe, just maybe, they are responding to the genocide Israelis are committing against Palestinians. Ya think?

Hey, Ted Cruz, what do you think? (If thinking is possible.)

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"(If thinking is possible.)" I am reminded of a Justice Burger opinion in which he wrote that such and such was "a not impermissible tool."

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Silvana Briand's avatar

Considering the shooters had ties to Isis and Israel supports Isis and treats their wounded at Israeli military hospitals, is it a far stretch to ask if this is another Israeli backed operation to sanitize and defend zionist propaganda and actions of genocide in Palestine? A red herring as it were?

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

ISIS uses one bullet to kill two. The targets, and their Shi'a enemies, accomplished by the immediate demand to blame Iran.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

Who knows what is the truth of Bondi Beach: It sounds just a little false-flaggish. And ISIS and other extremists have been known to work for whoever will pay.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Israeli Narrative Debunked- Bondi Terrorists Were Tied To ISIS. https://the307.substack.com/p/israeli-narrative-debunked-bondi

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Michael Y.'s avatar

These propagandists need to realize that intifada is not jihad!! As people mention in this article, intifada is absolutely not tied to violence.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Jihad is also not something necessarily violent. According to the American Heritage Dictionary:

Jihad noun

An individual's striving for spiritual self-perfection.

A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle for the propagation or defense of Islam.

A campaign against perceived foes, especially such a campaign regarded as fanatical or immoderate.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jihad+meaning&t=osx&ia=web

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Michael Y.'s avatar

Interesting to know about the spiritual striving. Cool.

I was focused on the holy war part.

Thanks.

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dale ruff's avatar

Global intifada: shaking off oppression, resisting tyranny, freeing yourself.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

This is what they always do, no surprises here.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

And this is just one example of many. I wonder how they quickly get into lockstep too. Who sends that memo and what is the distribution system?

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Scuba Cat's avatar

We know they are pretending to believe that speaking out against Israeli war crimes is antisemitic, and they know we know. The question is, who are they trying to convince? Who are these potato heads who actually think criticizing atrocities committed by war criminals is bigotry?

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