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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Zionism IS anti-semitism. Israel IS anti-semitism. If you really want to get rid of anti-semitism, then GET RID of Israel and Zionism - the two largest reasons for anti-semitism (the third being the U.S. Empire and its support of Israel).

Susan T's avatar

yes, it is very weird that none of those claiming to know what "globalize the intifada" means have any kind of empathy or brainpower to see that it is the disgustingness of Israel that is the primary cause of Jew hatred these days. Now Israel has created a "yellow line" that Palestinians cannot cross so people live right next to huge piles of garbage with rats, insects and disease. People are getting sick. Some are dying.https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/garbage-poisoning-gaza-landfills-inaccessible-waste-disease?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab694d2-5058-4824-9966-ea11a846ed56_3020x1698.png&open=false

Feral Finster's avatar

Zionists see antisemitism as a feature, not a bug.

Antisemitism gives Zionists an opportunity to run screaming to their American thug, to demand special pleading and double standards, to insist that ethnic solidarity is their only defense.

Rod Dawson's avatar

The good ole BBC recently decided the word 'Zionist' is antisemitic. This is because, the BBC says, a great many Jews identify as Zionists. But to be a Zionist, you have to - at the very least - condone the theft of land from a long-established indigenous people. Which - even ignoring all associated atrocities - is, obviously, racist - and therefore horrible. So Jews who call themselves Zionists don't like being called Zionists, because the word 'Zionist' describes horrible people, which no-one wants to notice, the BBC says it is antisemitic to call Jews Zionists who call themselves Zionists, because calling yourself a Zionist, which is a horrible thing, is okay if you call yourself that horrible thing, and support that horrible thing, whereas if anyone else calls you a Zionist, which is the horrible thing you call yourself, that's horrible, and racist, and we can't have people calling racists racists, because that's horrible, even though they call themselves horrible themselves, because it's what Zionism is, and so - QED - calling Zionists what they call themselves must be wrong. It is called 'Awful Logic'. And the good ole BBC, being a font of neutrality, seems to have glossed over the fact that there are many people who call themselves Zionists who are other religions, or none at all, presumably in the belief that it is perfectly okay to call such Zionists, who call themselves Zionists, horrible, because that's what Zionism, and they are, so deserve it. Hope this helps.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

laughing by the time I got to the end of it. What a tangled heap of yarn

John Day MD's avatar

It's like the "N-word", but in a position of power, instead of subjugation, no?

;-o

Susan T's avatar

It's interesting how the Zionists never fail to mention the 6 million Jews murdered in the holocaust, but somehow the other 11 million never get a mention. It is horrible, inhumane and immoral that there was ever a holocaust where anyone was murdered. It is in even worse that the Israeli Zionists whine about how so many of them were murdered and now they are competing with the Nazis.

Feral Finster's avatar

Hell, bring up the fact that the Holocaust was not the only genocide in history and watch the fur fly.

Rachy's avatar

It wasn’t even close to being one of the worst.

It’s mostly weaponised as the most significant because it happened to white privileged Europeans who think such things should only happen to BIPOC.

Antonio Brownlowe's avatar

Israel is Isis and Isis is Israel, as long as Israel exist Isis will exist. They works together (In their ongoing operations against the terrorists in Anbar province, the Iraqi security and popular forces captured an Israeli colonel and a number of takfiri terrorists. Quoting a commander of Iraq’s popular mobilization forces, reported that “the security and popular forces of Iraq captured the Israeli colonel” during operations against the terrorists. A number of terrorists were also captured.

"The Zionist officer is ranked colonel and had participated in the Takfiri ISIL group's terrorist operations," the Iraqi commander added. "The Israeli colonel's name is Yusi Oulen Shahak and is ranked colonel in the Golani Brigade of the Zionist regime's army with the security and military code of Re34356578765az231434."

The Zionist terrorist colonel is currently undergoing interrogation by the appropriate Iraqi authorities to find out why he is supporting the terrorists in Iraq, how he arrived here and what other Zionist officers might be assisting the takfiri terrorists. The Iraqi security forces said the captured colonel had already made some shocking confessions about his role and presence.

Last year, a number of captured takfiri terrorists had confessed that Israeli Mossad agents as well as other Israeli espionage and intelligence bodies were present in the first terrorist attack on Iraq that led to the capture of Mosul in the summer of 2014.

While committed Muslims have known all along that the takfiri terrorists are receiving training, weapons and finances from the US, Israel and their regional Arabian puppets, the level of Zionist involvement in attacks in Iraq and Syria is only now becoming exposed. It will definitely force the Iraqi government to rethink its policy of relying on the US that has proved to be untrustworthy ally.

The Iraqi government has appealed to Russia for air support like it is providing to government forces in Syria. Russian air strikes have had a profound effect on the ground situation in Syria. Iraq hopes Russia’s help would make it possible for its forces to intensify their operations against the takfiris in Abar and Salahuddin provinces.

Iraqi security forces have already liberated the oil refinery at Baiji and are now moving on to Ramadi. Progress is slow because the area has been heavily booby-trapped. Capture of the Israeli colonel and a number of takfiri terrorists would yield valuable intelligence enabling the Iraqi forces to make greater progress. Should the request for Russian air strikes materialize, it will become a game changer in Iraq as well.

In the meantime, capture of the Zionist colonel alongside the takfiri terrorists uncovers the diabolical plot of the Zionist criminals in the region. The Zionist regime has so far not commented on the reported capture of its colonel but it will not be long before they start of squeal demanding that he be returned unharmed.

The Iraqis should put him on trial for war crimes as well as being a mercenary in a foreign country. Both are forbidden under International Law.

Israeli colonel fighting alongside ISIS terrorists, captured in Iraq!

Thursday October 22, 2015, 22:48 DST The Cresent

Marci Sudlow's avatar

---Zionists see antisemitism as a feature, not a bug.------

Brilliant. That says it all.

Feral Finster's avatar

The Finster aims to please.

wrknight's avatar

I am getting sick and tired of hearing the word anti-semitism. The word itself is an abusive distortion of the English definition which the Zionists have weaponized to serve their political agenda.

The word Semite is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as follows: A person belonging to the race of mankind which includes most of the peoples mentioned in Gen. x. as descended from Shem son of Noah, as the Hebrews, Arabs, Assyrians, and Aramaneans. Also, a person speaking Semitic language as his native tongue. (PS Arabic is a Semitic language.)

Note that Semites are NOT limited to Hebrews, but include Arabs, Assyrians and Aramaneans. So, any who believes an Arab to be an anti-semite, must also believe that the Arab hates himself.

The stupidity with which some people abuse the English language to serve their political agenda is enough to make one sick.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"I am getting sick and tired of hearing the word anti-semitism."

Me too! I feel the same way as you do. Not only has the term 'anti-semitism' been falsely associated and narrativized with a 'Jewish connotation', it also is not the problem that 'the Western world' makes it out to be. ISLAMOPHOBIA is far more rampant (not only in the West, but globally - eg. India) and on the rise.

>>"The stupidity with which some people abuse the English language to serve their political agenda is enough to make one sick."

Language has always been used/weaponized by those in power to manipulate populations through most of history (the same often holds true with religions). Language is used/abused by cults ("Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55338982-cultish), corporations, organizations of all kinds, ideologies, political actors, the power elite, and more.

The only antidote (which people passively or actively refuse to take) against such manipulation is learning critical thinking skills (biases, fallacies, formal logic, etc.). The solutions for fighting against this are there, but people are hessitant (for whatever reasons) to do the work necessary. Ordinary people also need to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their 'thoughts and thinking skills' (imho).

wrknight's avatar

Unable or unwilling, I'm not sure which.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

"Unable' is a hard argument to make, as there are an enormous amount of free, high quality resources available on the internet (so I'm not really buying the "unable" argument for those with internet access - which is most of the world), though AWARENESS of the solutions (i.e. critical thinking) could be an issue.

Alex Bridge's avatar

Precisely. In Australia there are many people over a certain age who were never exposed to or educated in these skills in our public education system.(at least not in WA in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s.)

Many of these people are now incapable of changing their entrenched, simplistic, often racist ways of seeing the world.

(Same deal with the true facts of invasion/colonisation, it was not acknowledged or taught back then.)

Despite this, however uneducated in critical thinking a lot of people may be, I want to believe that most of us have hearts capable of compassion and empathy and an instinctive ability to recognise injustice and inhumanity.

Unfortunately, the psychopaths with the loudest voices and platforms who spread hatred and fear, successfully make ordinary people doubt their own humanity.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Wonderful reply Alex Bridge! I agree completely with you - especially the part about "most of us have hearts capable of compassion and empathy and an instinctive ability to recognise injustice and inhumanity".

What is truly sad, unfortunate, and ironic is that 'good critical thinking skills' help people FIGHT the injustices that they see in the world and allow them to NOT be manipulated by 'others'. Despite this, people seem to find solace in comforting narratives and conspiracy theories (that do nothing to empower people to act against these injustices).

I've found a general hesitancy (almost reluctance) for people to put in the time, effort, and energy into obtaining adequate critical thinking skills (even when they are made aware of the need and importance of this) - which makes me want to do some more introspection on "why is this so"?

Levi Tate's avatar

Zionists have globalized their 'GENOCIDA' effort.

There are mountains of examples.

https://7news.com.au/news/australias-involvement-in-us-military-strikes-on-underground-weapons-storage-facilities-in-yemen-revealed-c-16437397

"Australia played a vital role in US air strikes carried out on underground weapons storage facilities in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen, it has been revealed."

David Baird's avatar

Our (alleged) centre-left (Hahahahah......) government has been crawling further and further up Uncle Sam's fundament, even more so after the return of The Orange Lard-arse, and seems determined to get us mixed up in whatever conflict the incompetent prick is moved to start.

Vonu's avatar

AIPAC is anti-semitism in the Congress?

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yep, AIPAC and all the Israel Lobbies. These lobbies are supporters of Israel, not Jews. There are MULTIPLE examples of how these lobbies ATTACK Jews that are against Zionism, Jews that are against Israel, and Jews that are pro-Palestinian.

So, YES! ALL these Israel lobbies are anti-semitic!

JM's avatar

Bondi was Zionists, no doubt!

Discepolo Lazzaro's avatar

Thumbs up 👍 since when i click "like" nothing happens.

Moebius Infinity's avatar

Reload the page.

There is a bug in your soup

John Day MD's avatar

So what if this was an Israeli false flag attack for Hasbara?

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/here-is-everything-the-media-is-not

"The geniuses at Mossad really haven’t learnt from their recent mistakes. They have yet again left their fingerprints all over Google. Google Trends shows two spikes in searches in Israel for one of the shooters—Naveed Akram—in the days before the massacre, and then a huge spike, one day before the massacre."

"Disturbingly, Netanyahu said this massacre was the result of Australia recognising a Palestinian state. That sounds an awful lot like a confession to me. Netanyahu is now demanding that western countries take steps to stop antisemitism from spreading, by which he means ban us from telling the truth about Israel."

Chang Chokaski's avatar

Gawd - another false-flag conspiracy theorist. Debunked already (multiple times).

(1) Bondi Beach Tragedy: Unpacking Baseless Claims of Shooter Naveed Akram’s IDF Links (https://celebsindepth.com/naveed-akram-served-in-idf/)

(2) Misinformation exploits confusion, grief after Bondi attack (https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/misinformation-exploits-confusion-grief-after-bondi-attack/)

There is NO verifiable proof of this 'Google Trend in Israel' narrative (and some random screenshot that anyone can doctor does not pass the evidentiary burden). I ask ANYONE to provide a verifiable link so that everyone that wants to can verify it for themselves (and if you're considering using 'loss of information' as an excuse, then you're likely clueless about how Google Search Trends and data collection of Google metrics and dashboards works).

The Revolution Continues's avatar

Here's some more stuff you can poo-poo, Chang:

Israeli Narrative Debunked- Bondi Terrorists Were Tied To ISIS. https://the307.substack.com/p/israeli-narrative-debunked-bondi

And if you recall, ISIS has a CIA/Mossad connection going back to 2017.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

If anyone believes any of Israel's narratives, they are as much of a sucker as believing this 'false flag theory'.

Here's a critical thinking question for you -> why do you feel compelled to believe a narrative (Israel or someone else's). Why not wait and look at the evidence (all that is and will be available), before 'jumping-the-gun' and coming up with conclusions/opinions that have NO concrete, verifiable evidence?

Why are people so afraid (or is it lazy) to do due diligence and information gathering before believing whatever narratives confirm their biases?

BTW, everything I said above ALSO applies to anyone believing any of Israel's narratives. This is NOT about taking sides or my-group vs. the enemy-group. This is about using systems of analysis to arrive as close to the truth as possible (based on the ever-changing flow of information).

The Revolution Continues's avatar

The gunmen belonging to ISIS--a group that has ties to CIA and Mossad is not a "fact" in your opinion? I guess they were just working on their own with those guns, which are outlawed in Australia. However did they get those weapons smuggled in after living down under for 6 years? They didn't need any help from a group such as ISIS, or ISIS's friends?

Chang Chokaski's avatar

There you go again. Assuming things. Believing the narrative YOU want to believe.

Regardless of whether the gunmen were ISIS or not, there is NO PROOF of a VERIFIABLE chain-of-evidence linking it to any false flag by Israel.

What you are doing is spurious speculation - i.e. assuming that because ISIS has worked with (and against) CIA, Mossad, (and several other Govts.) it somehow magically means that that is what occurred here.

The CIA has worked with almost everybody (in one way or another). ISIS has worked with AND against the U.S. Govt. and Israel.

Unless you have CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE (rather than pure conjecture and creating patterns from weak connections of dubious quality), you have no proof (other than 'I think' because 'so-and-so in the past' and 'who knows' and 'anything is possible').

Jim P's avatar

I see your point, Chang and I do agree with it in theory. We should definately wait to see the evidence before we judge something.

The problem i have though, is that over the past few years we see the Governments and media colluding to write how and why events unfold to get to a pre-ordained narrative.

In the Bondi shooting we are already seeing many major media outlets over several different countries using the exact same term to describe why the event happened. This is not a coincidence, it happens all the time in these situations. Mass Media do NOT practice journalism, rather they are mouthpieces of background forces.

People see with their own eyes things that do not 'look right' when events like Bondi happen and when these things are ignored by the people supposedly investigating the event (police, politicians etc.), people rightfully get skeptical.

I dont know the solution to this, it feels to me like whenever something big happens like in Bondi, my immediate thought is skepticism when i hear the media report it.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

I guess the shooters did it all by themselves then. They were so clever they could smuggle their weapons into Australia without any problems, and even without being a part of the Jewish community found out all about a Hanukkah party held on a public beach (which is a holiday usually celebrated at home with family). Really smart dudes to do all these things without any assistance!

Amos's avatar

Summary of your posts on this topic: “please disregard all of Israel’s previous behaviour”.

Basil's avatar

I mean I'm listening to what you're saying. But you can acquire guns in Australia. Plenty of people I know have them. Nothing automatic though.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

It's odd, but I don't believe in all the protests and other pro-Palestinian events I've attended over the past two years I've ever heard or chanted “globalize the intifada”. Not once or at least not while I was paying attention. I know that intifada just means to "rise up", so why can't we change the chant/slogan to "Rise up globally and take out the Empire!"? Yeah, let's do that--"Rise up and take out the genocidal regime and its imperialist funders!"

jamenta's avatar

The Emperor does have the Death Star, and can blow up our planet at any time RC! And what if Darth Vader finds your rebel base?? What then?

The Revolution Continues's avatar

I'll have to ask Yoda what to do then.

Patrick Powers's avatar

He would say, "use the Force."

jamenta's avatar

“Do or do not. There is no try.”

Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Rise Up against Racist Israel.

hierochloe's avatar

Then, I have friends everywhere.

Lefty Dissident's avatar

I thought that too. It's one of the things that demonstrates that the whole event and follow-on is a pre-planned, pre-scripted show.

hierochloe's avatar

"there is only one solution: intifada, revolution" is common

for "intifada", this seems like another one of those "if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" situations

Mary Wildfire's avatar

Oh ho, you think THAT would be acceptable to our masters? Connecting the horrors of Gaza to the repression happening nearly everywhere? So much more threatening than "globalize the intifada" which could be read as being exclusively about Palestine.

Ian Brown's avatar

A few years ago there was a cut of dozens of news reporters across the US using the exact same Valentine's day script in their broadcast, as directed by Sinclair Broadcasting. Now we have the same phenomena except it's all the Western world's politicians and media repeating the same script of lies, racism, and genocide advocacy. They become Netanyahu's talking heads as if he owned the franchise. SUPER creepy.

Imagine you have an actual antisemitic uncle and you're trying to convince him Jews don't control the world and this comes out. It IS shocking how monolithic and synchronized the Western world is, and what interests appear to hold the most power. The license and power Israel has seems unprecedented. It's a TINY place with a smaller population than Portugal, but they get to tell everyone in the world what to say and think? Something is REALLY rotten if global systems are this weak and easily bought/coopted.

Patrick Powers's avatar

Big Money rules our world.

Nancy's avatar

You said it for me, thanks. Not surprised by this, but seeing the same talking point repeated by so many publications, one after the other, is still depressing as hell. It just brings home what we’re up against.

Mary Wildfire's avatar

Looks like Jews DO have inordinate influence--but the reason tiny Israel has so much power is the same reason Saudi Arabia can strut around the world despite being perhaps the most repressive regime on Earth--the Mob running Washington has found it to be useful to ally with Israel and Saudi Arabia. Plus Israel has long has an army of influencers, probably including hitmen to issue quiet threats to world leaders.

I saw Coronal Wilkerson, who had been Colin Powell's chief of staff when Cheney was "vice" President, asked what he thought of the recent visit of Netanyahu to the US Congress, where he got 70 standing ovations. What an interesting answer. He said that in Nazi Germany, there was a time when the Nazis would have huge parades and there would brownshirts running alongside, beating up and arresting anyone who did not salute Hitler when he went past. The US embassy had to get Americans out of jail, Americans who didn't know this. An interesting little snippet of history I hadn't known, but very interesting as an answer to that question.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

Anyone who's not resisting the idea, the ethos, the fucking ongoing existence of a group of psychopaths who use dogs to anally rape prisoners . . . anyone who's not resisting that is asleep. Or twisted in their own right.

dale ruff's avatar

Against this massive propaganda tsunami, I will quote a man murdered for turning against the dominant narrative and turning instead to peace: "“Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth.” — John F. Kennedy

Silvana Briand's avatar

Considering the shooters had ties to Isis and Israel supports Isis and treats their wounded at Israeli military hospitals, is it a far stretch to ask if this is another Israeli backed operation to sanitize and defend zionist propaganda and actions of genocide in Palestine? A red herring as it were?

Davina's avatar

Nope, quite a number of people are sure it is another jews killing jews, only this time they're Chabad, which is spreading fast and most jews are not in favour of them, nor are any people who find out about them. Seem worse than israeli jews, if you can believe that. The question is, are they new jews or, are they taking them from everywhere else?

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

ISIS uses one bullet to kill two. The targets, and their Shi'a enemies, accomplished by the immediate demand to blame Iran.

SW's avatar

The man who disarmed one of the shooters was a middle aged Muslim man who runs a fruit stand. On CBS news last night he was mentioned for 2 seconds, not as a hero, but a footnote to the incident. A long, tearful interview with a woman who lost a relative was the highlight. CBS has been taken over by a self-proclaimed rabid Zionist who can’t even give the smallest credit where credit is due. Their hatred for Muslims is surpassed only by their pettiness.

Aamir Razak's avatar

Well said SW. Mr. Al-Ahmed was a hero who saved lives and prevented the tragedy from being even worse, yet he is most times conveniently left out of the story or at most, reduced to a footnote as you said. Their hatred is appalling and blatant

dale ruff's avatar

"Leaders and public figures internationally — including officials in other countries and civic leaders — have publicly lauded his courage and contrasted his act of bravery with the violence of the attack.

au.news.yahoo.com

So yes — beyond immediate praise, he’s been formally and informally honored, from fundraising and political acknowledgment to nominations for national bravery awards."

"Ahmed al-Ahmed has been genuinely and warmly embraced by many in the Jewish community — through donations, public praise, shared vigils, interfaith solidarity, and even religious acknowledgment — as someone whose courageous act directly protected Jewish lives during an antisemitic terror attack. "

Mary Wildfire's avatar

and yet...is that man an inconvenient hole in the Zionist narrative, or evidence that the damn thing WAS a conspiracy--so they can say, look, a Muslim is the hero, see we're not Islamaphobic!

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

More important than ever! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing will continue to be vital in tracking down and bringing the culprits to justice. This is an ongoing project and worthy of support. Let’s hope they may soon turn their sights on the corporate and governmental accomplices in the west.

Support the Hind Rajab Foundation

https://donate.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg

Michael Y.'s avatar

These propagandists need to realize that intifada is not jihad!! As people mention in this article, intifada is absolutely not tied to violence.

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Jihad is also not something necessarily violent. According to the American Heritage Dictionary:

Jihad noun

An individual's striving for spiritual self-perfection.

A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle for the propagation or defense of Islam.

A campaign against perceived foes, especially such a campaign regarded as fanatical or immoderate.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jihad+meaning&t=osx&ia=web

Michael Y.'s avatar

Interesting to know about the spiritual striving. Cool.

I was focused on the holy war part.

Thanks.

Aamir Razak's avatar

Great point Joy. The word is often confused as armed war, but in fact the word means struggle. This can take many forms, including grappling with one's faults and struggling against certain temptation/desires

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I can even see how you say that Jesus too, was performing jihad when he wrestled against Satan, and temptation in the desert, could they not?

Aamir Razak's avatar

Certainly i think that is another example that could be used. The point being, that the word simply means struggle in Arabic, and is incorrectly, in my view, assumed to mean a violent or militant struggle, which is not the case. in fact, I think one of the most common uses of the term is to struggle against one's base desires and "lower self", and to be on guard against and defend oneself from pride/arrogance, anger, jealousy/envy, lust etc

Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Exactly. It is being deliberately misused to suit a particular ideological and politial agenda.

Aamir Razak's avatar

Well said and agreed. Its' meaning is being deliberately misreported and misinformation spread in order to push a particular narrative and demonize a group of people

dale ruff's avatar

Global intifada: shaking off oppression, resisting tyranny, freeing yourself.

wrknight's avatar

Interesting word "infitada" which in arabic means uprising and was applied to the Palestinian uprising Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza in 1987. Now an uprising is a reaction to something else and the question those who claim the globalization of infitada need to ask themselves, what the cause of their uprising?

Maybe, just maybe, they are responding to the genocide Israelis are committing against Palestinians. Ya think?

Hey, Ted Cruz, what do you think? (If thinking is possible.)

Aamir Razak's avatar

Well said Wrknight. Yes, as Caitlin rightfully pointed out, it means to shake off, perhaps people like Cruz should focus on stopping complicity and enablement of an actual genocide, rather than focusing on topics which he doesn't have an understanding of? Semantics and language/word meanings aren't his strong suit, it seems

Patrick Powers's avatar

"(If thinking is possible.)" I am reminded of a Justice Burger opinion in which he wrote that such and such was "a not impermissible tool."

wrknight's avatar

It's definitely not an impermissible tool, but I'm not sure some people know how to use it.

Scuba Cat's avatar

We know they are pretending to believe that speaking out against Israeli war crimes is antisemitic, and they know we know. The question is, who are they trying to convince? Who are these potato heads who actually think criticizing atrocities committed by war criminals is bigotry?

drednorzt's avatar

I wonder if it isn't just to keep convincing themselves. Repeating the same lie ad nauseum, because the second you stop your whole belief system begins falls apart.

RainyNights's avatar

Nahhhh. The eeeeewwwwraelis fully know & are very happy about it, 82% of them agree with the genocide. That’s how those Talmudists roll. That’s how they have for centuries rolled & will continue rolling.

Just watch first this short video. Don’t miss the laughter & joy from those two old ugly vile disgusting ewwwwraeli demons as they recount their atrocities. They are literally in ecstasy reliving it. Yea, I’m telling you, there IS something wrong with ewwwwraelis.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/1781

Poll Shows Majority of Israelis Support Expelling Gazans

https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

dale ruff's avatar

I think it misleading to say 82% of Israelis (this would include not only all Jews but thousands of Palestinian Israelis) approve of genocide, for just as the Gazans approive of Oct 7 because they don't believe it involved killing civilians, so most Israelis, brainwashed by the regime and media, don't believe it is genocide but self-defense. I think it would be fair to say the vast majority of Israelies believe that what is happening is in self-defense, however misguided that may be.....but I don't think they would say they support genocide but 47% in the Penn polls said, citing the bible, that if a city is conquered, all the people should be killed.

As horrible as this is (30 years ago, you would have been arrested in Israel for callling for genocide), it is necessary to defeat an enemy to understand him, and this nearly majority support for genocide (which Israel's see as self-defense) is based on fear, an emotion that bypasses rational thinking, rooted in the trauma of Oct 7 in a population already traumatized by genocide during WWII. this is not to excuse but to try to understand how a people living in fear will jump to the idea of killing all those they think threaten them. This fear of course is mostly manufactured by the Israeli propaganda machine to justify its genocidal attacks, now backed by nearly half the Jewish population in Israel.

Tho it hurts, if we don't understand the enemy, we will never defeat him.

RainyNights's avatar

The “trauma” of October 7. As if the genocide against Palestinians started only after October 7. The eeewwraelis have been murdering Palestinians since 1948. The WW2 saw millions upon millions killed not just Talmudists. We hear day in and day out about the “6 million” which was way far less but I disgress, but not about the millions upon millions of the Others that died in WW2. Throughout history many have gone through genocide and they do not commit genocide and cry about it eternally. An excellent example are- The Indigenous People of the Americas. How many movies about their genocide? How many museums about their genocide? How many people lost their jobs, are threaten with death, are threaten with physical assault because they said it “wasn’t a genocide?” which of course, it was.

As I said in the beginning of my first post and the main point of it:

“That’s how those Talmudists roll. That’s how they have for *centuries* rolled & will continue rolling.”

I should had added “wherever they plant themselves & in any century”.

Btw….not too long ago in an article someone posted ( was it Caitlin?, I forget) I read that the eeewwwraelis consider themselves proud if they get over on people. No news to me. Again, that’s HOW they roll.

You wrote a very pretty post, but pretty posts don’t deviate me from my knowledge & aversion I have of them. The way I defeat them is by keeping away & far from them. ALL of them. No exceptions. Ever.

Muhammad Ali, in a few words, can explain it better.

https://youtube.com/shorts/G0FB9j7F4pU?si=RoRX87KbD1nwAv1b

dale ruff's avatar

Most israelis, like most Palestinians have epigentic trauma to begin with and finding that you are not safe created on top of this inherited trauma a new trauma. There is nothing "pretty" about these facts...they are the hard truth that even hating a people does not negate their trauma, whether Jewish or Palestinian. The trauma of the Gazans is now far deeper but ordinary Israelis, thinking they were protected, now live with fear, including finding that there Iron Dome is penatrable, as Iran recently proved. Trauma can create people who become victimizers, acting out their trauma, coping by controlling out of fear of losing control.

If we do not understand the enemy, we will lose, so calling analysis pretty to marginalize it is a way of hiding from the truth needed to win the struggle for Palestinian liberation.

RainyNights's avatar

Stop it. Equating the genocide trauma of Palestinians with the eeewwraelis. It’s a veiled attempt, albeit a very weak one for us that fully know who the Talmudists are, to elicit pity for child killers & genocidaires.

Those Talmudists gouge out the eyes of sheeps just because they belonged to Palestinian farmers. They shoot Palestinian little children on the necks one day, another they shoot them on their genitals, while another they shoot them on their legs. They rape Palestinian men. They mock the thirst & severe starvation of Palestinians in Tik Tok videos. Before October 7 the ewwwraelis laughed at a Palestinian child that their settlers burn to death. In fact, one of the settlers in his own daughter’s wedding with his other male friends wedding guests were celebrating the burning alive of a child. The father of the bride & his friends brandished knives pointing up in celebration AT THE WEDDING of his own daughter’s while sitting on one another’s shoulders & joyfully yelling: ‘Ali is on the grill, Ali is on the grill’. Referring to the baby (Ali) burnt alive in his little crib when the settlers burned down the house. NO Palestinian acts out their real trauma those ways I mentioned.

This is the last time I am replying to you. To sum up….I have zero fucks to give about those eeewwwraeli liars, scammers, mockers of Palestinian sufferings, child killers, rapists, perverts, thieves, murderers & sickest bastards/s.o.b. that ever walked or will ever walk planet Earth; & as to their eternal whinings, fake victimhood (THEY started the problems since 1948). Whatever hell befalls them I have zero fucks to give. There IS something wrong with them & nobody can convince me otherwise.

So. Do not try it again. Quit your light, ‘soft’, veiled Hasbara.

I smell the sulphur of a Talmudist.

Patrick Powers's avatar

They don't care what you believe as long as you shut up and do as you're told.

Luis A. Melendez Albizu's avatar

Caitlin you have to look at three things:

1. This Bondi Beach attack looks like your typical Mossad False Flag. The gunmen (Mossad ISIS Mercs), the Mossad actor present (israeli propagandist Arsen Ostrovsky), the timing (Candace Owen's had predicted it over 2 weeks ago), and the choice of place (Netanyahu ordered it to happen in Australia, because the Australian government had called for a Palestinian State). Israel's immediate concerted conduct to blame it on Iran & Muslims is all circumstantial evidence of pre-planning. Also, Israel is the world champion of False Flags since before it's creation. It is the modus operandi of the Mossad.

2. All writers of the legacy media are all Zionist Neocons, many of which helped Israeli perpetrate 9/11.

3. This was also obviously pre-planned to be used by Israel as an excuse to force the US into attacking Iran.

Bob's avatar

I don't understand how nobody is talking about how a group like the Chabad of Bondi is able to host an event at such a public venue with so little security or police presence. First of all, Chabad is a group linked directly to Itmar Ben-Gvir, a Kahanist terrorist. Second, the organising Rabbi Eli Schlanger has posted horribly anti-Arab racist posts on his social media, supported the genocide openly, donated Chabad of Bondi money to Settlers in the West Bank, and visited IDF soldiers to at least offer moral support. He is the leader of that congregation. An extremist. This makes him and the congregation a clear target. No mention of that from ASIO. Why?

Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

Who knows what is the truth of Bondi Beach: It sounds just a little false-flaggish. And ISIS and other extremists have been known to work for whoever will pay.

Davina's avatar

True, and they're getting a great run in Palestine Byron only killing but stealing food and medicines so the israeliscan blame it on Hamas, whom, we discovered by their care of Israeli hostages thst is extremely unlikely, but it definitely is what Israelis would do.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

And this is just one example of many. I wonder how they quickly get into lockstep too. Who sends that memo and what is the distribution system?

Davina's avatar

Probably sent out ahead of the shooting - you have to be able to spread the propaganda far and wide, no time to waste once the shooting starts.

Keep in mind that that particular groups are Chabad jews not well liked by ordinary jews but useful for this setup.

Patrick Powers's avatar

There is a video of a dozen or so Sinclair-owned TV station talking heads using pretty much the same words. In general I think it is an informal system of telephone calls from owners and major advertisers. That and pundits taking their cues from the NYT and so forth. If the NYT always says that the Ukraine invasion was unprovoked then I had better say that too.