"stop calling this a “war”. A war doesn’t involve conversations about whether or not a walled-in population should be allowed to have food, medicine and electricity. " was the holocaust a war then?
There have been many mass slaughter events which would justify the title Holocaust . But you clearly mean the attempt by the Nazi to exterminate and displace the German Jewish population. That mass murder led to war but was not itself a war
no, the holocaust was not itself a war. Like the genocide happening in Gaza. Both are mass murder. and the mass murder in Gaza may very well lead to war as well.
I am not offended. It is a little odd to use the holocaust to make my point and I did think about it but I find it really difficult that descendants of people who survived that are now doing something very similar themselves to people who cannot escape and who do not have any ability to respond to or escape from what is happening to them. Very similar to Auschwitz or other places, I think.
Because the whole pretext for this genocide is taking out Hamas, who attacked on 10/7. But I don't see anyone fighting back, just the slaughter of innocents living on what's left of their own land, as you well know.
I can't even argue with friends that have turned full anti-semite anymore. I make a distinction between Zionists and Jews, but how do you differentiate when you don't know based on Israels lies and the fact that the majority of their population support the war. Israel has done everything possible to ensure that they will be targeted. I feel bad for the Jews that support a cease fire and real peace, but no one in the mainstream appears concerned of this glaring growing hatred that has been well earned.
I don't even know why this should become a discussion of hatred of Jews. Israel yes, and the fact their people have not demanded a stop to this carnage is very disturbing, but take each person as they come. It's easier that way for everyone.
Zionists are creating more antisemitism, because of their islamophobia. The spike of islamophobia and antisemitism on social media is disgusting. People LOVE to HATE! So insane. And this is reason 65,541 (random number that sounds good) why we are going extinct.
This demands more time than I can give right now. Good point. There are vast differences in the history of the US compared to Israel, no matter your perspective. And i mentioned that I do not share an anti-semitic point of view. What i am getting at is the zionists tying these things together has worked. And worked so well that it will likely portend the doom of Israel. I shed no tears for this. But when the pitchforks come out and people want reprisals, I wouldn't want to be Jewish, because most people don't understand the difference. Including most Jews, Israel or foreign. Btw i follow Greenwald, Due Dissidence and many other semitic brothers in case anyone is confused that I am being swayed into true racism. Biased that Israel has no right to exist yes, Racist no.
Throughout hisory, countries have been founded for reasons good and bad. Israel is no exception: what is criticable is what its people did with their freedom.
No. Israel is an exception. It is a bullshit Imperialist project the likes never before attempted and dressed up as reconciling for the german holocaust. Yes Canada and many countries share some similarities to this. But Israel, within the nation state system, is a dog and pony show. They should have got half of Germany or the Ukraine or nothing. Not the land of people that had zero to do with the holocaust
This is an interesting point. There is no issue saying ‘radicalized’ for Islamists perverting the religion, yet many conflate it with being Muslim period - which is also intended, subtly or not subtly.
There’s a fair amount of discussion, albeit not true standing up against, of Christian evangelicals in the US with issues on pro choice, homophobia, white supremacy/ KKK nationalism tied to religion, etc. The subset is distinct from overall Christianity.
Can’t there be a distinction of the radicalized Judaism that is inexplicably meshed with the religious aspect of being the chosen people with a right to the land?
I guess that’s what’s attempted referencing Zionism as separate from being Jewish. Which I believe deeply. But the language has a limitation of political then race / religion. Maybe it applies nicely to Biden, clearly in the Zionist category. But for Jewish people that are extreme zionists, and view it as part of being Jewish, it is absolutely a radicalized justification of religion. We don’t address this clearly. Like Netanyahu being Jewish is somehow compartmentalized inside of him, while he wears his Zionist hat to drop bombs. It’s a radical form of religion just like the above two examples.
CJ deserves a Nobel prize (well presuming that meant something) for her relentless defense of the Palestinians (people w/o power). Every day, she pushes back. Very encouraging.
The headline today has again caused me and probably half the world some anxiety. Naturally the white / Christian governments from all over the world would not heed the message yet again as is also the case of the Roman Catholic President of the US also. Of to Mass every Sunday, all sins forgiven.....and as is the normal practice, forgotten. Not by the world however.
Why the hell are the normally decent countries in the world tolerating this inhumane Nazi-like treatment of poor unarmed people, on the verge of total extermination.
Every day I question the reason the feeble and toothless United Nations has not sent a collection of African, Middle Eastern and Asian troops into Gaza to act as a barrier to any further killing by the Zionists brigades, shooting to kill unarmed civilians at will and on command as has been the case since day one, now using 2,000 pound bombs per courtesy of the Jewish controlled US government.
As for Netanyahu's hand maiden, Biden, he should be immediately stood down and prosecuted in The Hague, verifying firstly that the panel of Judges are not sponsored / owned by the Rothschilds or their ilk or on the payroll of some Zionist philanthropist scoring a few points among 'God's chosen people' as his contribution to "Eretz Israel".
The world is a dirty place in 2024. Who can you trust? No Jew , no American, no White Anglo, no European country and certainly no government like Australia, UK, New Zealand or Canada.
You are a disgrace, Israel as is your trained puppet, the USA. You make Nazi Germany in the 1940's almost pale by comparison. Shades of Joseph Stalin and his Holodomor, starving the Ukranians in 1932-33.
Yes, Israel, as one of your leaders has said, oft-quoted," We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, ........and it shows every day.
Because the ‘normally decent countries’ are… drum roll… NOT decent. They never were. We were bamboozled. Turns out, the emperor is buck naked and quite fond of flashing himself.. we just thought he was a decent man because they gave us some koolaide to drink..
It seems to be a different world of late. Once upon a time it was an authorative humane organisation which injected world majority opinion into so many disputes, no doubt saving millions of lives.
The Vetoes in the Security Council used these days in a political sense, have killed it as a caring international monitor. It is feeble now with little to recommend it and well past its use-by-date.
Yes, but the UN ratified and rubber stamped Israel right after the former was created. Even though the AshkeNazis ethnically cleansed the Palestinian population in fulfilment of their diabolical wet dream (if I were to ascribe to the fairytale, I can guarantee you that it was Satan - not Yahweh - that promised the Chosenites the confiscated land). The UN was created as one of the useful tools for world domination by America. It is used as a cudgel for ‘human rights’ only when weak states get out of line. We’ve seen too many examples to support this. Remember the whole UN imposed economic sanctions against Iraq?? Just to protect the precious brat child Israel? Why can’t the UN impose an embargo/sanctions against IsraHell now? Because then it would not be a US tool.. when it clearly is!
What?! You say the white people and the west don't care? Have you not seen the MASSIVE protests in western countries? The leaders of those countries are doing nothing but the citizens are trying to change that in the schools and on government grounds, the roads, on videos, independent news, everywhere they can and their numbers are huge but we all see what "leaders" do, which is nothing.
The worst part of this ongoing slaughter is to witness genocide going on right in front of our eyes, and that the entire world can do nothing to stop it,
Oh but John, they CAN. Problem is that the world is terrified of mad-dog IsraHell employing its Samson Option, which I have no doubt that it would do so.
Odd, isn’t it, that a little group of the bravest men on the planet—the Hout’hi—-are the only ones offering physical resistance?
Looking forward to Iran closing the Straits of Hormuz.
This is like living with a psychopath in an abusive violent relationship for years and the psychopath brings you flowers for beating you up the whole week and you believe that now things will change for the better.
First they programmed us to be insensate to war, now they are doing the same with genocide. They are trying to reduce us to robots in their desperate last hours of precipitous decline.
Netanyahu and his thugs get to do what they want as they destroy Israel and desecrate the holy land
When I gauge my little Twitter sphere I suspect most right leaning people feel like me. Have had that same feeling many times before where I thought people were coming around. Truth is there’s still so many that are bamboozled by this dog n pony show. Not trying to black pill anyone; fuck it, means we got more work to do. ❤️🔥
It was so interesting to read comments on monday, the1st of april, when israel bombed irani consulate in syria and a few hours later an aid convoy in gaza. Comment section in a major mainstream polish news outlet. What a change of mind happened to these /intelectually/ poor people! 180 degrees revolution from support to killing /iranian/people to the most profound outrage to killing a polish aid worker. There is no hope for this planet, we have too much technological power while having too narrow limits to our compassion, no wisdom.
while it might take a shape of 'white supremacy', I suspect in case of my fellow people it is simple, primitive tribal stupidity limiting their perspective and loyalty.
Yet, my jugdement might be too harsh: there is nearly no news from gaza in polish mainstream, so decent people support israel's 'fight against antisemitism'.
And in case anyone still thinks Trump is somehow different from this, he just disavowed this notion when he said that Israel needs to finish this quickly and stop releasing the bad optics.
I had Zionism forced on me at a young age. It worked for most of the children,but I never quite bought it. It sounded like Zionism was calling for the same things that the Nazis did, and we were taught to hate the Nazis for what they did. It’s truly a vicious loop.
On one breath we would be told of the evils of Hitler, on the next breath we were told that the Arabs should be killed.
I write a lot about this nowadays. You can see what I’ve written here. I try to use my own experiences to help others.
This sister speaks for me! She speaks 💯% truth... STRAIGHT FACTS. amen.
"stop calling this a “war”. A war doesn’t involve conversations about whether or not a walled-in population should be allowed to have food, medicine and electricity. " was the holocaust a war then?
Definitely not a war.
There have been many mass slaughter events which would justify the title Holocaust . But you clearly mean the attempt by the Nazi to exterminate and displace the German Jewish population. That mass murder led to war but was not itself a war
no, the holocaust was not itself a war. Like the genocide happening in Gaza. Both are mass murder. and the mass murder in Gaza may very well lead to war as well.
What an utterly ridiculous analogy 🤦🏻
I am not offended. It is a little odd to use the holocaust to make my point and I did think about it but I find it really difficult that descendants of people who survived that are now doing something very similar themselves to people who cannot escape and who do not have any ability to respond to or escape from what is happening to them. Very similar to Auschwitz or other places, I think.
precisely. and why would anyone call the genocide that is happening now a war? How is murdering imprisoned people ever a war?
Because the whole pretext for this genocide is taking out Hamas, who attacked on 10/7. But I don't see anyone fighting back, just the slaughter of innocents living on what's left of their own land, as you well know.
I can't even argue with friends that have turned full anti-semite anymore. I make a distinction between Zionists and Jews, but how do you differentiate when you don't know based on Israels lies and the fact that the majority of their population support the war. Israel has done everything possible to ensure that they will be targeted. I feel bad for the Jews that support a cease fire and real peace, but no one in the mainstream appears concerned of this glaring growing hatred that has been well earned.
This is not a war. It's unmitigated undefended slaughter.
It is the Zionist plan to turn hatred of them toward Jews also. It nets billions of dollars and all the bombs they need to keep killing Palestinians.
I don't even know why this should become a discussion of hatred of Jews. Israel yes, and the fact their people have not demanded a stop to this carnage is very disturbing, but take each person as they come. It's easier that way for everyone.
that's one reason why the world is in such a mess now - "its easier"
What is your point? You're not making yourself clear. I am.
Zionists are creating more antisemitism, because of their islamophobia. The spike of islamophobia and antisemitism on social media is disgusting. People LOVE to HATE! So insane. And this is reason 65,541 (random number that sounds good) why we are going extinct.
This demands more time than I can give right now. Good point. There are vast differences in the history of the US compared to Israel, no matter your perspective. And i mentioned that I do not share an anti-semitic point of view. What i am getting at is the zionists tying these things together has worked. And worked so well that it will likely portend the doom of Israel. I shed no tears for this. But when the pitchforks come out and people want reprisals, I wouldn't want to be Jewish, because most people don't understand the difference. Including most Jews, Israel or foreign. Btw i follow Greenwald, Due Dissidence and many other semitic brothers in case anyone is confused that I am being swayed into true racism. Biased that Israel has no right to exist yes, Racist no.
Throughout hisory, countries have been founded for reasons good and bad. Israel is no exception: what is criticable is what its people did with their freedom.
No. Israel is an exception. It is a bullshit Imperialist project the likes never before attempted and dressed up as reconciling for the german holocaust. Yes Canada and many countries share some similarities to this. But Israel, within the nation state system, is a dog and pony show. They should have got half of Germany or the Ukraine or nothing. Not the land of people that had zero to do with the holocaust
This is an interesting point. There is no issue saying ‘radicalized’ for Islamists perverting the religion, yet many conflate it with being Muslim period - which is also intended, subtly or not subtly.
There’s a fair amount of discussion, albeit not true standing up against, of Christian evangelicals in the US with issues on pro choice, homophobia, white supremacy/ KKK nationalism tied to religion, etc. The subset is distinct from overall Christianity.
Can’t there be a distinction of the radicalized Judaism that is inexplicably meshed with the religious aspect of being the chosen people with a right to the land?
I guess that’s what’s attempted referencing Zionism as separate from being Jewish. Which I believe deeply. But the language has a limitation of political then race / religion. Maybe it applies nicely to Biden, clearly in the Zionist category. But for Jewish people that are extreme zionists, and view it as part of being Jewish, it is absolutely a radicalized justification of religion. We don’t address this clearly. Like Netanyahu being Jewish is somehow compartmentalized inside of him, while he wears his Zionist hat to drop bombs. It’s a radical form of religion just like the above two examples.
So do I and anyone who steps foot in that shit hole is a Zionist as far as I'm concerned.
CJ deserves a Nobel prize (well presuming that meant something) for her relentless defense of the Palestinians (people w/o power). Every day, she pushes back. Very encouraging.
BMeowDawg,
Agree with your statement, except for the final two word.. Somehow... "very encouraging" just doesn't fit into this narrative...
You are so cynical and so truthful and I love your humanity. A real inspiration to those that follow you.
The headline today has again caused me and probably half the world some anxiety. Naturally the white / Christian governments from all over the world would not heed the message yet again as is also the case of the Roman Catholic President of the US also. Of to Mass every Sunday, all sins forgiven.....and as is the normal practice, forgotten. Not by the world however.
Why the hell are the normally decent countries in the world tolerating this inhumane Nazi-like treatment of poor unarmed people, on the verge of total extermination.
Every day I question the reason the feeble and toothless United Nations has not sent a collection of African, Middle Eastern and Asian troops into Gaza to act as a barrier to any further killing by the Zionists brigades, shooting to kill unarmed civilians at will and on command as has been the case since day one, now using 2,000 pound bombs per courtesy of the Jewish controlled US government.
As for Netanyahu's hand maiden, Biden, he should be immediately stood down and prosecuted in The Hague, verifying firstly that the panel of Judges are not sponsored / owned by the Rothschilds or their ilk or on the payroll of some Zionist philanthropist scoring a few points among 'God's chosen people' as his contribution to "Eretz Israel".
The world is a dirty place in 2024. Who can you trust? No Jew , no American, no White Anglo, no European country and certainly no government like Australia, UK, New Zealand or Canada.
You are a disgrace, Israel as is your trained puppet, the USA. You make Nazi Germany in the 1940's almost pale by comparison. Shades of Joseph Stalin and his Holodomor, starving the Ukranians in 1932-33.
Yes, Israel, as one of your leaders has said, oft-quoted," We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, ........and it shows every day.
Because the ‘normally decent countries’ are… drum roll… NOT decent. They never were. We were bamboozled. Turns out, the emperor is buck naked and quite fond of flashing himself.. we just thought he was a decent man because they gave us some koolaide to drink..
It seems to be a different world of late. Once upon a time it was an authorative humane organisation which injected world majority opinion into so many disputes, no doubt saving millions of lives.
The Vetoes in the Security Council used these days in a political sense, have killed it as a caring international monitor. It is feeble now with little to recommend it and well past its use-by-date.
Yes, but the UN ratified and rubber stamped Israel right after the former was created. Even though the AshkeNazis ethnically cleansed the Palestinian population in fulfilment of their diabolical wet dream (if I were to ascribe to the fairytale, I can guarantee you that it was Satan - not Yahweh - that promised the Chosenites the confiscated land). The UN was created as one of the useful tools for world domination by America. It is used as a cudgel for ‘human rights’ only when weak states get out of line. We’ve seen too many examples to support this. Remember the whole UN imposed economic sanctions against Iraq?? Just to protect the precious brat child Israel? Why can’t the UN impose an embargo/sanctions against IsraHell now? Because then it would not be a US tool.. when it clearly is!
I do not know what happened, Russian_bot, but my response to your request is a few comments up.
Regards
What?! You say the white people and the west don't care? Have you not seen the MASSIVE protests in western countries? The leaders of those countries are doing nothing but the citizens are trying to change that in the schools and on government grounds, the roads, on videos, independent news, everywhere they can and their numbers are huge but we all see what "leaders" do, which is nothing.
Carolyn,
"Have you not seen the MASSIVE protests in western countries? The leaders of those countries are doing nothing. " clearly showing what MONEY can buy.
I know. The leaders are seeing it and they do and say nothing.
The worst part of this ongoing slaughter is to witness genocide going on right in front of our eyes, and that the entire world can do nothing to stop it,
Although “Ozymandias’ may be the poem for all of humanity, surely a year’s “Second Coming” seems the poem for this current time and place.
Second Coming by William Butler Yeats
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Oh but John, they CAN. Problem is that the world is terrified of mad-dog IsraHell employing its Samson Option, which I have no doubt that it would do so.
Odd, isn’t it, that a little group of the bravest men on the planet—the Hout’hi—-are the only ones offering physical resistance?
Looking forward to Iran closing the Straits of Hormuz.
This is like living with a psychopath in an abusive violent relationship for years and the psychopath brings you flowers for beating you up the whole week and you believe that now things will change for the better.
Bassem Youssef Said something similar in his interview with the detestable Piers Morgan
Piers “but do you condemn Hamas” Morgan? 😂
First they programmed us to be insensate to war, now they are doing the same with genocide. They are trying to reduce us to robots in their desperate last hours of precipitous decline.
Netanyahu and his thugs get to do what they want as they destroy Israel and desecrate the holy land
When I gauge my little Twitter sphere I suspect most right leaning people feel like me. Have had that same feeling many times before where I thought people were coming around. Truth is there’s still so many that are bamboozled by this dog n pony show. Not trying to black pill anyone; fuck it, means we got more work to do. ❤️🔥
It was so interesting to read comments on monday, the1st of april, when israel bombed irani consulate in syria and a few hours later an aid convoy in gaza. Comment section in a major mainstream polish news outlet. What a change of mind happened to these /intelectually/ poor people! 180 degrees revolution from support to killing /iranian/people to the most profound outrage to killing a polish aid worker. There is no hope for this planet, we have too much technological power while having too narrow limits to our compassion, no wisdom.
And then we try to convince ourselves this is not all white supremacy..
while it might take a shape of 'white supremacy', I suspect in case of my fellow people it is simple, primitive tribal stupidity limiting their perspective and loyalty.
Yet, my jugdement might be too harsh: there is nearly no news from gaza in polish mainstream, so decent people support israel's 'fight against antisemitism'.
It’s woke genocide
CARTOON ... "CYNICAL CRUELTY: While Air Dropping Small Packs Of Food, Biden Is Quietly Shipping Weapons To Israel Every 36 Hours"
https://mark192.substack.com/p/cynical-cruelty-while-air-dropping
And in case anyone still thinks Trump is somehow different from this, he just disavowed this notion when he said that Israel needs to finish this quickly and stop releasing the bad optics.
I had Zionism forced on me at a young age. It worked for most of the children,but I never quite bought it. It sounded like Zionism was calling for the same things that the Nazis did, and we were taught to hate the Nazis for what they did. It’s truly a vicious loop.
On one breath we would be told of the evils of Hitler, on the next breath we were told that the Arabs should be killed.
I write a lot about this nowadays. You can see what I’ve written here. I try to use my own experiences to help others.
https://mfeldman.substack.com/