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This should be an article in its own right...Caitlin, please feel free to reproduce this if you wish...

Israel practices official “apartheid” to a much greater degree than that of any other country in the world—the former South Africa included.

Every vehicle driver in the illegally occupied territories (all of Israel) is identified by his or her vehicle license plate as well as personal documentation (identity papers). License plates are coded as to the ethnicity and religious persuasions of the owners, and are used to deny basic “rights” to those who are of “the wrong ethnicity”.

There are roads and thoroughfares that are designated “for jews only”. “Jews-only” roads and thoroughfares are state-of-the-art, paid for with American taxpayer dollars, while roads used by Palestinians are poorly maintained, with many military “checkpoints” which adds further misery to the lives of Palestinians.

Any Arab or Palestinian who attempts to use “jews only” roads or thoroughfares is arrested and heavily fined.

This policy even extends to “footpaths” which are designated by “jewishness”.

Palestinians and other Arabs are forced to go through humiliating “checkpoints”, even being delayed for HOURS, if they are even allowed to pass, at the whim of the jewish “authorities”. This even extends to medical emergencies, where ambulances are routinely delayed by jewish authorities, “just because they can”.

In Israel proper, and in the illegally occupied territories, Israeli officials make rules and laws as they go along, ignoring the (official) laws (rule of law) already in place.

On a whim, any Israeli official can declare that a building, other structure, planted farmland, water wells, and other basic facilities owned by Palestinians are “illegal” and subject to destruction by Israeli forces.

This even applies to buildings, lands, orchards and crop-producing lands which have been in Palestinian possession for centuries. All the Israeli military has to do is to declare the Palestinian-owned property to be a “military zone”. No other laws or permissions are needed to expropriate land from the Palestinians. Quite often, Palestinians are forced to demolish their own homes in order to avoid being heavily fined.

Water is heavily restricted in Gaza and in the Palestinian areas while jewish settlements can use all the water they want.

Sewage from illegal jewish settlements is routinely dumped on Palestinian land without regard to the pollution problems that it causes.

The old belief that jews poison the wells and farmlands of their perceived “enemies” is actually true, as (illegal) jewish “settlers” routinely poison Palestinian-owned wells and croplands.

This is a continuing process that is forcing Palestinians off their land and facilitating the building of jewish “settlements” in the illegally occupied areas. In fact, IOF personnel routinely protect (illegal) jewish “settlers” who force Palestinians off their land.

Let’s turn to the treatment of Christians in Israel proper. In the tourist areas, jewish authorities try to keep the disrespect for Christianity to a minimum so as not to insult their brainwashed Christian zionist tourists. In fact, the hatred for Christian churches, and Christians in general is so pervasive, it is not surprising to see jews “spit” when walking past a Christian church. Not only that, jews consider spitting at Christian clergy and others a “jewish custom”.

The Israeli authorities plan specific itineraries for Christian zionist groups and American politicians so they do not witness the overt, outright hatred that jews have for Christians, You see, “it’s all for show” when it comes to begging for American dollars from the American taxpayers and from these misguided Christian zionist groups.

Keep in mind that Christian Palestinians are subject to the same abuses as Muslim Palestinians. Israeli government practices do not differentiate between the two.

Jews are experts at “graffiti”, calling it “price tagging” which they use to good effect as the authorities generally “look the other way” when the vandalism and destruction of Christian facilities by jews is going on.

The irony of the situation is that the Palestinians (true semites) who have lived in the middle east for centuries and even millennia are reduced to being unwelcome in their own land while jewish interlopers, most of them who are not even “semites”, from the United States and Europe are overlords in Israel and in the illegally occupied territories.

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CK's avatar

Zionist Joe Biden could have stopped shipping weapons to Israel, long ago.

Poser Trump could have stopped assisting Israel, months ago.

The mass media could have stopped providing cover for Israel, decades ago.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Obviously a LOT of us know a lot of what you have reported in your comment. Some I did not know. Thank you Thomas Nast.

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martin's avatar

iirc, there's areas where arab palestinians are not allowed to collect the rainwater.

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Susan T's avatar
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ThomNast: This comment is interesting. I scrolled down and found another of your comments. I am not really sure about your holocaust comments. As I read what you write, it gets close to real anti semitism and, while I do agree that the State of Israel and many Israelis are sick in their heads about their attitude toward non Jews, especially toward Arabs, I find it difficult to digest all that you are saying. It is that thing of hate begetting more hate and the more we allow ourselves to hate the more we are encouraging its existence. Personally, I prefer to try to change that in myself and in others, if possible. My hope is that we will eventually have a world free of hate. The way the climate crisis is going, that is a real possibility. A world free of people and the hate that they bring into the world.

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ThomNast's avatar

I have investigated holocaust claims at length for many decades now and can prove that most holocaust claims are fraudulent. It's not "anti-semitism" to seek and ascertain TRUTH. The use of the label "anti-semtism" is used as a pejorative which is intended to suppress truth.

It's not hate to pursue TRUTH.

Best regards,

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Jeff's avatar

Exactly. The truth is called hate speech by those who live by lies.

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Susan T's avatar

Zionists are creating more antisemitism than anyone else could do. They are grist for the mill of holocaust deniers.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

It is not antisemitism because most jews are white khazarian converts and are not semitic people. True antisemitism is genocidal oppression of Palestinians (muslim, christian, and jewish). You mean holowcaust industry propaganda.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Based on your comment above, I doubt you would recognize truth if it hit you in your face.

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musicbob's avatar

ThomNast,

You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.

I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).

Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.

I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).

Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who

knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).

Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.

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ThomNast's avatar

I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. What I have stated is going on in israel as we speak. Anyone can easily verify what I have stated is TRUTH.

Are you worried that israel's reputation is being tarnished? There are many IDF unit 8200 trolls who attempt to discredit any negative responses towards israel I hope you are not a unit 8200 member.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Like I've said before (though I think you missed reading it) - you wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in your face.

You very likely seem to be a neo-Nazi troll that is abusing the tragedy of the Palestinians to further your own narratives. Have you no shame? Don't you think the Palestinians are suffering enough without you aiding the Zionists? Nice try - maybe you'll have better luck on some neo-Nazi substack.

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musicbob's avatar

What gave it away to you (my supposed worry about "israel's reputation")... was it my statement above noting this... ""There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel""

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Musicbob, why are you replying to my comment instead of to ThomNast's comment?

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musicbob's avatar

Never mind, now I see my re-posting of it (in the right spot, I think). Apologies.

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musicbob's avatar

dammit. I cant tell if I've made the same posting mistake, as my long comment appears to listed under yours (again).

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musicbob's avatar

Oops.sorry. My eyes are bugging out with so many new sub-lines, etc. Thanks. will re-post (assuming I can find p[roper spot)

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mois78's avatar

There are no hate speech regarding how you disagree with it. The constitution is so stupid for not saying FREE HATE SPEECH! Good complementary speeches do not need protections. The libtards invented that "hate speech " bs

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martin's avatar

is your experience of any use in investigating the claims of genocide and 'holocaust' in gaza?

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musicbob's avatar

ThomNast,

You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.

I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).

Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.

I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).

Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who

knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).

Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.

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musicbob's avatar

ThomNast,

You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.

I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).

Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.

I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).

Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who

knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).

Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Is it cognitive dissonance or simply moral depravity that compels some to speak up at hint of anti-semitism while the reality of ethnic cleansing rages on?

It’s not a moral crime to speak harsh truths about a state, a nation, or of a person and or people if those truths are grounded in reality. If they are false, expose them,

But if you must, please go ahead and open your anti-semitism umbrella, because its raining blood and body parts.

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Susan T's avatar
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I am not sure if it is worth responding to you regarding this topic, but I do not consider criticism of the State of Israel, the IDF, Netanyahu to be anti semitic. I consider attacking Judaism without apparently understanding that it is the ideology of Zionism that is the problem not the religion of Judaism to likely be antisemitic. I do understand that many Jews in Israel support the ongoing genocide. But in my view, it is their Zionist thinking that allows them to give this support. It is not a clear cut issue, I realize, but, to me, it is important to know that there are many Jews who oppose Zionism and Zionism is the thinking that is allowing a genocide to happen.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Thank-you for reply. Well I think yours is a very worthy reply,and appreciate you taking the time to reply, and I agree with you. Zionist is not Judaism.

I read ThomNast`s comment in full, he should have spoken of the cruelty of the Zionists (not Jew or Jews) but unfortunately for many these are one in the same because of the very fact the Zionist regime declares itself the Jewish state, and obliviously not enough Jews have spoken loudly enough to counter this false equivalence.

If ThomNast did blatantly bash the Jewish faith in a different comment, perhaps you should have made your point in reply that comment . I could not find his other comment, Substack threads do not always display all comments nor in chronological order.

Though I have to agree in part, any faith preaches that their faith has Divine right over others has questionable ideology in my opinion.

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Susan T's avatar

Back a few comments, another commenter notes that ThomNast makes a lot of claims about the holocaust not happening but he does not give any links. He seems to think we should just believe him. Check out what musicbob says four or five comments before this one.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Holocaust deniers, well, do they rank as low as those who deny that, right now as we speak, the Zionist regime is carrying out a policy of ethnic cleansing with extreme cruelty?

It’s pointless to act like Chicken Little every time someone writes something uninformed. I’ve yet to find anyone with whom I totally agree; we all have different perspectives and different motives for engaging with strangers on social media.

As for me, I’m here for the discourse. I offer my opinions, and I want to hear others’ opinions. I understand the risks, you see, I’ve completely lost faith in governments and corporate media outlets. They lie!

So choose whose arguments you engage with. If they seem logically sound, engage. And try to avoid creating an echo chamber.

Of course, I have my biases, as does everyone else. Not many people can fully separate their reasoning from their emotions. I know nothing about you, and you know nothing about me.

I might be an avid reader of Caitlin’s posts, but I often find myself at odds with her simplistic views. If you’ve read my comments on this post, you’d see that I don’t think Israel is a uniquely evil society, but I do think the collective West is . because it is guilty for enabling and allowing such evil to exist for so long!

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”

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Steve Holden's avatar

You won’t get far singing Kumbaya round the camp fire with Israelis. Many of them have murder in their hearts, and are sociopathic if not psychopathic.

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not sure I understand what you mean here. I don't see recognizing that people (Jews and others) have been brainwashed with Zionism is singing Kumbaya. It is only recognizing what is true. Once we know what is going on, we have a slim chance of stopping it. And I wouldn't say that it is only Israelis that have murder in their hearts. Americans and Brits are showing a lot of that too. Just that Israelis are doing it. With the support of all those others who have murder in their hearts but who want to pretend they are the good guys, just helplessly watching the Israelis murder people.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Excellent points, the crimes of the Zionists are so many, but why does America and its Vassal state tolerate all this? Is it the Empire`s need to keep the Arabs nations at odds, is it the Christian fundamentalist christian fundamentalism belief in the Rapture , or is simply the power of money, that all politicians can be bought?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"but why does America and its Vassal state tolerate all this?"

Because this is first and foremost a U.S. Empire thing -> Imperialism, Colonialism, Capitalism. Israel simply serves the interests of the U.S. Empire (and to a lesser extent other Western nations).

There are always instances where Israel does things that are not beneficial to Western powers (or complicate the agendas of the U.S. Empire and Foreign Policy establishment) - like the current Genocide in Gaza. But by-and-large, such occurrances are minor compared to the usefulness of the Zionist state of Israel to U.S. Empire interests and the interests of Capital - hence they are forgiven or swept under the rug.

Religion offers up convenient narratives (as does Jewish sympathy and Holocaust sympathy) that the Zionists abuse and use as propaganda (which all too often is easily believed by people that are uncomfortable with deep thinking and instead prefer to rely on emotions to form their opinions).

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Your points are valid, but think it goes deeper than that. I personally believe the root cause is a mixture of factors, all which promote divide, we are one species, but because of various ideologies, or just selfish greed we find ourselves in a world divided, by race, religion, skin color, age, sex, political views.... we do not recognize each others humanity, In short we simply do not care about others as we should.

I am reminded of the open letter which Osama bin Laden wrote, the only way Americans will ever understand is when they too feel pain, and how tragic is it, , will yesterdays murder of two Israeli embassy staff in Washington bring the chicken home for the rest of them? https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To%20the%20American%20people.pdf

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"but think it goes deeper than that."

Not sure what you mean by "goes deeper than that". Unfortunately, Genocide has been all to common in human civilizations and history. Most of the root underlying reasons are human 'needs and wants' like POWER, MONEY, CONTROL, SECURITY, etc. Hence imperialism, colonialism, exploitation, oppression, and more...hence the creation of systems that promote these behaviors.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

Agreed, but what I meant by "it goes deeper" was that we simply don’t have empathy. not enough to care about what’s happening on the other side of the planet. We’re not connected. We’re divided, with no real bonds to other races, countries, or cultures. Hell, in some places, we don’t even care what’s happening in other parts of our own country or city.

Without telling me where you live: Do you constantly worry about being robbed in your city? If someone falls, do people stop to help? If a car breaks down, do strangers offer assistance? Do they give up their seat on the subway for the elderly?

When my kids were born, I moved from a very large city to a small town. Here, strangers say "good morning" and actually look you in the eye, unlike in big cities. I never lock my car, and most days, I don’t even lock my front door.

Seems to me that under capitalism and consumerism we have created a world with systems which rewards selfishness, not solidarity. It’s predatory system, it thrives on keeping us isolated and afraid.

Why should Americans care about the dead in Gaza and Ukraine, it does not preempt their baseball game or favorite Netflix show.

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Actually it's not Israeli law by which the Palestinians land is being expropriated. Because it isnt Israel.

What the Israelis are doing is they occupy Palestine, and adminster it under the Ottoma-era adminstrative codes that the British used when Palestine was British colony (aka the UN "mandate). Its those administrative regulations by which they sieze land and mass imprison Palestinians ("administrative detention") and by which they summarily execute anyone they want, even children.

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ThomNast's avatar

disagree. It IS israeli "law" that can be changed on a whim. what say you about the eastern European "settlers" who claim to be "jews" despite not having an ounce of semitic DNA?

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Kojo,

I agree with your observation that the Israeli government appears to be applying their version of the old Ottoman Empire’s codes of differentiation of Christians, Jews and Muslims.

Most readers may be unaware of such.

My refugee family lived under Ottoman rule, and was ethnically cleansed under the auspices of the British Empire.

I congratulate you for mentioning that system.

Of course, in the USA, we had the “whites only” and “coloreds only” rules well into the second half of the 20th Century.

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tre peperoncini's avatar

That was great historical footnote, so now we can attribute Zionist cruelty to Ottoman-era administrative codes that the British adopted, does that justify it or make it any less evil?

I cannot think of any country, city of protectorate that was ruled by the so called great British Empire which was not subjected to savage brutality by the British. It’s not surprising that America has become that which it once deemed insufferable.

The wake of destruction that European Empires through their settler-colonial rampages, have wrought on humanity is just too immense to even fathom.

Let remember the key words of the "Bush Doctrine" of the 2nd Bush President,

"“It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.”

- Translation; Our operatives in the CIA and USAID will work to undermine every regime we wish to overthrow, we will force our vision of democracy on those we deem tyrannical dictators.

The parallels to the Catholic Church`s "The Doctrine of Discovery" of 1493 is a bit haunting. Six of the seven nations which General Wesley Clark spoke of have succumbed , only Iran remains

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ThomNast's avatar

It's worse...

israel (mossad) runs a "honeypot" operation that has compromised almost all of the western world's leaders. American politicians fear israel (mossad) because it has "dirt" on just about all politicians, movers and shakers, and other influential individuals. Politicians, among others have been given "free" trips to epstein's "fantasy island" where they could be photographed and videoed in compromising situations (trysts with underage girls and boys depending on their interests and proclivities).

All it would take would be for one prominent politician or influential individual to "spill the beans" and admit to his or her transgressions, beg for forgiveness, (which would be readily given) and reveal details about the whole operation.

This one move would be enough to bring the whole diseased (jewish) temple down.

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Amine's avatar

I have never imagined that "humans" can hold so much HATE for others

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Jeff's avatar

If the Jews are willing to sexually mutilate their innocent baby boys on their 8th day of life as a blood ritual sacrifice imagine what they will do to their enemies kids. We are seeing it play out now in the children of Gaza. There is a reason the Jews have been expelled from so many countries and they need laws to protect themselves from criticism.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

You certainly seem to think along the lines of a Nazi sympathezier, don't you? Sheesh, stop hiding your Nazism behind the plight of Palestinians. Stop using Palestinians (and the Genocide in Gaza) to sprout your anti-semitic nonsense.

Maybe actually READ some of Caitlin's articles and get educated.

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Jeff's avatar

What you are saying makes no sense. I simply said if Jews are willing to cut off healthy functional erogenous tissue of their male baby boys' penises via painful and traumatic circumcision ritual Bris, they are capable of FAR greater harm to their enemies. What does over 50,000 dead Gaza civilians, mostly children and women, count for you? Do you have no sympathy for innocent life?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Don't even try your BULLSHIT with me. I've read your OTHER comments. You are a Nazi sympathizer - which is NO BETTER than being a Zionist sympathizer.

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Jeff's avatar

I stand with Palestine and all innocent lives.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

You are a Nazi shithead aren't you - liking your own comments - a sign of an inferiority complex.

I doubt you care about Palestinians - NEVER seen you on Caitlin's substack since Oct 7th started, except today to take cover behind the plight of the Palestinians to spout your hatred.

You and the Zionists seem to exhibit the SAME flaws of character.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

Not only that, but throw a party when they do it.

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Jeff's avatar

So sad and true. I’ve read from many Jewish men who feel so broken and humiliated to learn their loved ones partied in the synagogue while he suffers the worst torture imaginable in a completely non-sterile manner.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Are you comparing circumcision of jewish boys with bombing and truly mutilating thousands of innocent defenseless Palestinian children? Removing a little bit of top skin from the male sexual organ is the same "mutilation" to you as cutting limbs and heads of Palestinian children?

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Jeff's avatar

No way, they are not the same, but I think it shows the potential and disregard for inflicting pain and suffering on other people if they do this life-long mutilation to their own boys. You should watch a Bris ceremony on youtube to see the full depravity on display.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

Israel is a terrorist country! The leaders are war criminals every bit as evil

as the Nazis! There is no other country in the world that is committing such atrocities as Israel!

I say this as a refugee from Nazi Germany!

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Ibti's avatar

Pigraelis are worse. Nazis were in their own land. Nazis didn't have social media. Nazis didn't cry victim while perpetrating genocide.

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JennyStokes's avatar

USA is a terrorist country!

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Jeff's avatar

Hitler and the nazis were the only ones in modern history who tried to stop the Jews from doing what they do. Communism, Usury, perversion, infant mutilation, inhumane butchering of animals, stock market control, political corruption, and propaganda campaigns.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

Wow, that’s quite antisemitic! So you’re defending Hitler ! …. With a lot of the Nazi propaganda !

You can be against the genocide being perpetuated by Israel , but to excuse the genocide by Hitler is just as bad! Shame on you!

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Jeff's avatar

No, jews are not semites. Palestinians are. Jews are invaders and terrorists fueled by their religious supremacy. I am anti-Jew and proud of my german roots. German Nationalists were being crushed by bolshevism and had a right to defend their homeland. Holocaust lies have been debunked long ago and are jewish propaganda, that's why they need laws against any criticism or revisionist holocaust history. You can watch 'Europa The Last Battle' documentary for more info.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

I have relatives that died in Concentration camps! Don’t give me that Nazi shit.! Hitler was a war criminal as were all the Nazis!The Holocaust was real, and anyone denying that is guilty of supporting war crimes!

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Holowcaust or not it does not give jews any excuse to genocide Palestinians. Stop using holowcaust as some excuse. Go then and build israel in Germany. Enough of holowcaust industry propaganda. Many other people were mass slaughtered in WW2 (Russians, Yugoslavs, Gypsies, etc.). Many others ended up in concentration camps. You never hear of that. There is no excuse and no forgiveness for ugliest and most massive war crimes committed by jews today.

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RainyNights's avatar

Exactly. It’s always the holocash ( Norman Finkelstein coined that word) with them. Nobody suffered more than the Talmudists. 😏While they as the first Bolsheviks murdered over 20 million Christian Russians ( the real number of the genocided is way higher).

Most people never heard of Genrikh Yagoda, because the Talmudists are always to busy pumping down our throats about their ‘genocide’. That Yagoda bastard was the greatest jew murderer of the 20th Century. He murdered over 10 million people.

The link below I read many years ago & boy has it been edited to seem less severe! . The Talmudists doing Talmudic things. Figures.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

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dacoelec's avatar

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dacoelec's avatar

💰👎

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"There is no other country in the world that is committing such atrocities as Israel!"

I would say that the U.S. Empire is close behind in 2nd place...

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musicbob's avatar

...and it would all be IM-possible without the US weaponry and funding and total support... and let's add in the million and a half dead in Ukraine because of the US proxy war there... which the US really started back in 2014 (if not much earlier) with its coup and insertion of the "leader" they wanted... if not much earlier)... but that's getting off topic from the article... only to say that perhaps, in this case, a strong argument could be made for the US being numero uno in that respect.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"in this case, a strong argument could be made for the US being numero uno in that respect."

🎯💯 Couldn't agree with you more on this, MusicBob!

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Whatistobedone's avatar

Nazis, indeed. I wonder if the percent of the German people against Hitler is (a lot?) less than the percent of Jews et al. against the Israeli Nazis ....? Anyone know?

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Feral Finster's avatar

"I wish for Joe Biden what he has always wished for the Palestinians. I wish for everyone what they wish for the Palestinians. No more, no less. Just exactly what they wish for."

"For even as ye have done unto the least of My brethren...."

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Feral Finster's avatar

Israel is simply what happens when you give *any* group of humans de facto unlimited rights and no responsibilities.

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ThomNast's avatar

Genocide is baked in to judaism. Every jewish holiday is a celebration of genocide–total destruction of men, women, children, toddlers, infants, animals and plant life, every blade of grass–according to jewish beliefs, NOTHING is to remain alive–the situation in Gaza to this day. I’ve studied judaism at length and recognize the duality within that contributes to the jewish psyche.

Supremacy is a major component of judaism, the talmud declaring that us “goyim” are no better than livestock, given long lives in which to serve the JEWS”. Add to that the polar opposite in which jews declare themselves to be victims, perpetually persecuted for just being jews, (yeah right). This serves to keep jews “on the plantation”. It is my belief that this contributes to mental illness among jews. Supremacists and victims at the same time.

Let me give you a recent example. Chabad jews in New York city initially protested the ongoing genocide in Gaza. So far so good. Their zionist brethren (fellow jews) “outed” the Chabad jews by exposing their child sacrifice tunnels dug out from underneath their synagogue. The New York City authorities had the tunnels filled in, ignoring any evidence of child abuse taking place within. Before the filling in of the tunnels, blood soaked child-size mattresses, toddler high chairs and other child-size items were conveniently ignored.

These same Chabad jews are now advertising “Gaza Waterfront Property For Sale (jews only)”. Talk about a reversal of efforts, this is it. Chutzpah, indeed.

That being said, I treat ALL human beings as I would want to be treated without distinction. It’s the HUMAN thing to do.

With the ongoing slaughter of decent human beings in Gaza and the West Bank by jews, it is difficult to see jews as human.

As to the American empire, we are in agreement. I maintain that the USA has been ZOG (zionist occupation government) for a very long time. It was refreshing to see Trump show netanyahu the door. We will see how long that lasts.

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Jim Jackson's avatar

To what degree is psychopathy determined by genetics?

AI Overview

Psychopathy is not solely determined by genetics; it's a complex interplay of both genetic predisposition and environmental factors. While research suggests a moderate to high heritability for psychopathic traits, specifically callous-unemotional traits, it's important to note that no single "psychopathy gene" exists.

Elaboration:

Heritability:

Studies, including those involving twins, indicate that psychopathic traits have a moderate to strong heritable component, meaning they tend to run in families. Some estimates suggest that up to 50% of the variance in psychopathic traits is due to genetic factors.

Environmental Factors:

Environmental factors, such as childhood abuse, early stressors, and parental controlling behaviors, can also contribute to the development of psychopathy. These factors can interact with genetic predispositions, increasing the risk for an individual susceptible to psychopathy.

No Single "Psychopathy Gene":

Psychopathy is likely caused by the combined effects of multiple genes, rather than a single gene.

"Primary" vs. "Secondary" Psychopathy:

Some research suggests that "primary" psychopathy, characterized by low anxiety, may have a stronger genetic component, while "secondary" psychopathy, associated with high anxiety, may be more influenced by environmental factors.

Callous-Unemotional Traits:

Studies on callous-unemotional traits, such as a lack of empathy or remorse, have shown a moderate to high heritability.

Examples of Genes:

While not a single "psychopathy gene," some research has implicated certain genes in psychopathy, such as dopamine receptor genes.

Neurobiological Roots:

Research suggests that psychopathy may be associated with alterations in gene expression related to immune response pathways in neurons and astrocytes.

With that background regarding the cause of psychopathy in individuals, one must ask what sort of environment would select for a high frequency of psychopathy in a population of individuals. What way of life would favor higher reproduction (larger family size) in psychopaths?

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Research fx

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JennyStokes's avatar

What about incest?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Genocide is baked in to judaism."

If that is your logic, then Genocide is definitely baked into Christianity (do you know the number of Genocides perpetrated by Christians throughout history).

If that is your logic, then Genocide is baked into Buddhism (Rohingya Genocide).

Similarly, according to YOUR logic, Genocide is baked into EVERY religion.

Learn to differentiate between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism.

Caitlin, why are so many Nazi anti-semites trolling your article today? All these Nazi sympathesizers are using the Gaza genocide and the tragedy of the Palestinians to espouse their Nazism and hatred.

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RainyNights's avatar

It’s free speech. Either we are for it or not.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Free speech is an illusion - a made up concept - and you've fallen for it (as have many). Wait till reality sets in, and then you'll realize how 'free' your right to speech is.

Have you lived in China, Russia, Nazi Germany, or Israel? Try your free speech ideology there and see how far it gets you.

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RainyNights's avatar

In none of those countries I have lived. . However, long time ago, I grew up in a country where free speech could get one & one’s family jailed or killed.

Chuck it up to ‘destiny’ lol. By the way, you can include Bolshevik Soviet Union under Stalin in your list of countries. .The first govt , the Bolshevik govt. there were over 80% jews. Way worse than Germany in the 1940s.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

I have 0 problem with, for example, someone saying they don’t believe, in the ‘6 million number’. I believe they have a right to say it. That’s real free speech to me.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I care more about being a moral human being that does not intentionally harm others. 'Free speech' is important, but not high on my list of priorities. I prefer for people to have their basic needs met - food, shelter, medical care, education, etc.

Free speech is useless (and a luxury) if those basic needs above are not met. And what would you know, America has many of these problems - homelessness, poverty, hungry children going to bed every night, lack of adequate education and social services, lack of adequate health care, and more. In this environment, I care LESS about 'free speech' and such ideals than I do about the NEEDS of the people.

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martin's avatar

limitation of rights and more responsibilities would fix this?

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RainyNights's avatar

Nah. The Talmudists excel in cruelty, meanness,. The Emmy Award for brutality, cruelty, mocking of dead children goes to them. Hands down!

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Uaifo Ojo's avatar

I've been mostly away from the internet for the last few weeks in order to get out of this propaganda messages of "Trump finally being fed up with netanyahu" to actually see something concrete happening on ground... And yet I return to the same stalemate of Gazans suffering and the world watching with folded arms.. what a spineless bunch of animals humans have become in this day and age for the most part

The only thing I am a little optimistic about is the savages also attacked EU diplomats in Jenin and so show themselves rabid dogs who bite both friend and foe alike

I'm not holding my breath for something to come out of this but at least the EU now knows Israel is a masterless rabid monster vermin dog that will bite their hands off, even if it's the hand feeding them.. they all fucking deserve each other

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JennyStokes's avatar

EU leaders are protecting their backsides Uaifo. What we need to see now are results.

I hope you had a good break we all have to do this at some point.

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Uaifo Ojo's avatar

Yes I did Jenny, and it did me the world of good... Only wish that my good fortune trickled over to the Palestinians in some way but alas...

Anyways, I hope you have been well, or we well as any of us can be in this crazy times we live in?

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JennyStokes's avatar

The EU speaks BUT nothing happens. I need a break too dear Uaifo.

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Uaifo Ojo's avatar

Please have one for your own sake as you won't be any good to the Palestinians if you're burnt out

It's already well established at this point that individuals like us can hardly make a difference on our own so please, take a breather and go have a break to return back to the frontlines and give these devils the full force of the hell they fucking deserve in our own ways ✊🏽♨️

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JennyStokes's avatar

True. 4 days on the 2nd....then back to the battle!

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Ibti's avatar

Jerusalem Post is reporting on that as soldiers "shooting into the air". Word twisters be word twistin.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Don't get your hopes up. Slimy EU vassals will be apologizing tomorrow for upsetting genocidal IOF murderers. EU is full of spineless indecent cowardly a$$licking imbeciles.

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Uaifo Ojo's avatar

I agree with you bruv, it's all gonna flow under the bridge now especially with that killing of the two Israeli embassy staffers.. a fucking shame

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Rock Island's avatar

"I wish for Joe Biden what he has always wished for the Palestinians. I wish for everyone what they wish for the Palestinians. No more, no less. Just exactly what they wish for."

Right on Caitlin. The only regret I have for Joe Biden is that he only dies once.

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Sam's avatar

Well we could wish him a long life with the cancer living inside of him.

Remember he let Israel blow up almost every hospital in Gaza and block medical supplies including pain meds.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

It’s really very simple. Every Zionist in the world is a sociopath, an anti-human, anti-biological piece of rubbish that needs to be cleansed from the face of the planet like the worst parasitic infection imaginable.

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gypsy33's avatar

Vin: massive dose of ivermectin?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

At minimum, gyp dear. Strong bleach, possibly concentrated lye for anything they touch.

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RainyNights's avatar

Ivermectin though great for many illnesses does not cure the evil of the Talmudists. That’s a spiritual disease. Some say it’s in their DNA.

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charles leone's avatar

Israel is a satanic, neo-con, war hawk state crafted by the British Empire via the Balfour Declaration for the purpose of killing off the Muslim population of the Mideast. Operation Divide and Conquer for Greater Israel.

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Darlene Jones Owens's avatar

I was the typical American some 25 years ago, not paying attention to what happened in Palestine, but after 9/11, I sought to understand why there was never peace in Palestine. It took years to realize and accept the fact that the Jewish state's aim is to strangle and subjugate every nation on earth. The Palestinians are the unfortunate first victims of the most hateful people that have ever existed on the planet. You can observe the thousands of ways that people have been propagandized and manipulated, threatened and abused through the decades (even before WWII) to look away from the absolute evil that we are witnessing right now in Palestine. There is nothing we can do about the situation short of complete nuclear annihilation of most of the civilized world because they have assured the world that they will use nuclear weapons to destroy anyone who tries to dismantle their evil intentions. You can often hear Jews in videos exclaiming, "We have an army." What they haven't proclaimed publicly is that they have made slaves of a majority of the world's population who fund their evil. As I grow older, I wonder when they will demand that Talmudic Law become international law with implementation of the Noahide (laws for non-Jews) -- written to elevate Jews to total supremacy and cruel, military-style court systems that execute non-Jews for disobedience to Jewish laws they don't even understand (because they are insane to begin with!).

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@realRodster's avatar

It is absolutely disgusting what Isra-Hell is doing to the Palestinians. Israel has become "Satan's Chosen People". There's no other way to put it. I watched Schindler's List back in the 90's and I was horrified at the treatment of the Jews at the hands of the German Nazi's. Israel is doing to the Palestinians what Hitler did to the Jews.

Except, they are making Hitler look compassionate. And fuck off with the antisemite label. Bibi Nuttenyahoo should be in prison. Oh and as Max Blumenthal has noted. Netanyahu isn't his real last name. It is Mileikowsky and it is a Polish name. Ya gotta appear Jewish if you're going to be in charge of Satan's Chosen People. That man is fucking disgusting.

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From engineering, logistical, scientific and physical principles, the claims made by holocaust™ promoters can be easily debunked. A lot more people than just jews perished during WW2. It seems that according to holocaust™ promoters, jewish deaths are the only ones that count.

From the International Committee of the Red Cross records released from the archives at Bad Arelson, the total number of deaths in the labor camps was approximately 271,000, NOT 6,000,000. Add to that, more Roman Catholics than jews perished in the camps. Germans were meticulous record-keepers and documented all deaths in precision detail.

Most people are unaware (due to jewish propaganda) that many jews lived unremarkable lives in Germany and the occupied countries throughout the entirety of the war, yet all claim to be holocaust™ survivors. Many children were born in the camps, were well taken care of and lived on after the war.

According to jewish logic, any jew who lived during WW2 is considered to be a holocaust™ survivor, even those who lived in the USA outside the European war zone. To add insult to injury, jewish psychologists have declared that holocaust™ transference syndrome is real and infects the children and grandchildren of holocaust™ survivors, making them eligible for holocaust reparations. Using this logic, the holocaust™ grift will never end.

Let’s look at Anne Frank, the jewish holocaust™ “poster child for German atrocities. The Frank family and their associates were not innocent jews but ran a smuggling, black market, document forgery operation when they went into hiding when they were picked up for their criminal activities Typhus was rampant in the camps due to Allied bombings of the infrastructure and rail lines adjacent to the camps. Yes, unfortunately Anne Frank perished from typhus while her father was treated in a camp hospital, survived the war and edited Anne Frank’s “diary”, spicing it up with sexual innuendos and other fabrications, assigned rights to a publisher who he screwed out of shekels. As to Otto Frank surviving typhus and being treated, what is a hospital doing in a purported “death camp”? Not only is the Anne Frank story full of holes, there are many other fabrications that have been used to lend credence to the”poor jews” who died in the holocaust™.

Holocaust™ historian Elie Wiesel claims to have been in many camps, yet no proof is offered. Wiesel claims that “some things are true that never happened”. What kind of statement of truth is that?

Let’s look at “gas chambers”…the buildings that are claimed to have been used as “gas chamber” have doors that swing the wrong way, no means for inserting and removing the “gas”, and using a “insecticide” as a toxic gas are impossible on their faces. Zyklon B was used for delousing clothing and other items (not humans), requires a temperature of 150 degrees to be effective and could not have been used as an execution agent.

Not only that, holocaust™ promoters claim that bodies were retrieved from the “death chambers” immediately after “gassing” without decontamination procedures being carried out. Attempts to retrieve bodies as such without decontamination (which takes hours) would have killed the “gas chamber” operators.

Logistics is another “nail in the coffin” of the so-called holocaust™ fable. Germany was an energy-poor country that could not afford to use its limited energy to transport jews (and others) to camps just to kill them. Germany did not have the means to do so.

Ground penetrating radar has been used to pinpoint supposed burial sites (none which have been found. Supposedly, there is a jewish proscription against disturbing burial grounds. This is used to hide the fact that they do not exist.

The holocaust™ is indeed the “grift of the twentieth century” a massive Hollywood-style production that is finally losing its luster. Why do you think countries pass laws which outlaw any deviation from the “official” holocaust™ story?

In many countries, the so-called holocaust™ has been turned into a “religion” from which deviation from the “official” holocaust™ story is punishable by fines and incarceration.

In Germany and elsewhere, 90-plus year-old grandmothers have been incarcerated in maximum security prisons for merely questioning “that which may not be questioned”, the so-called jewish holocaust™. Look up Monika Schaefer, Ernst Zundel, Ursula Haverbeck, all three elderly who have been imprisoned for merely questioning the so-called holocaust™. The new “state religion” in many countries who have criminalized honest investigation is holocaustianity™.

Holocaust™ museums (actually jewish Hollywood-style productions, freak shows) have no place in the western world in their present form as they amplify lies, fabrications, and have imposed a Stockholm Syndrome on Germany and the rest of the world which persists to this very day.

It is long overdue for the holocaust™ fable to be thoroughly and dispassionately investigated, letting the chips fall where they may. Anything less promotes this massive fraud, truly the “hoax of the twentieth century”.

More to come.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Sheesh! Another Zionist Holocaust denier. These Zionists (like yourself) are pure evil - not only will they commit Genocides, they will also deny previous Genocides. Yes, I'm sure you won't get the logic here. It's OK. The Palestinians don't need people like you on their side - using the current tragedy to spread false narratives and hateful ideologies.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

How does one become a Zionist and a Holocaust denier in the same sentence?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Because I equate Zionism with Nazism and Nazism with Zionism - they have SO MUCH in common. ThomNast, Jeff, and a few other characters in today's comment section come across as neo-Nazis. There is not much (in terms of personality traits) that separates Nazi ideology from Zionist ideology.

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Explain how a Zionist would deny the Holocaust.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

A Zionist would deny the "truthfulness" of the Holocaust by embellishing real history about the Holocaust and creating "half-truth' narratives about the Holocaust in order to gain sympathy for their Zionist causes.

A Nazi would deny the "truthfulness" of the Holocaust by twisting history and creating "half-truth" narratives about the Holocaust because they are true Jew-haters and white-supremacists.

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martin's avatar

maybe it's easier to just post a link to the websites?

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Here's a website you can check out

"The aim of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust is to promote intellectual freedom permitting an uncensored and unimpeded, yet always civil discourse on the “Holocaust” narrative, and to offer a forum to those who contest the orthodox Holocaust narrative." https://codoh.com/.

You could spend a hundred days reading the entries from several writers and researchers found at the bottom of this page.

Here's a link to one of my favorites... https://codoh.com/library/document/author/scott-frank/

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Falling for low-quality, neo-Nazi websites and narratives are we?

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Nana Baakan Agyiriwah's avatar

Chang, are you being sarcastic?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

If you want to read a true criticism of the Holocaust (and there has been way too much propaganda about the Holocaust by Zionists), then I suggest reading Norman Finklestein's excellently and thoroughly researched book - "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering" (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48836.The_Holocaust_Industry).

The above book lays out valid criticisms about how Zionists have abused and twisted "real Holocaust history" to serve the purposes of Israel and Zionists. The Jews (true Jews, not fake Zionist Jews like Alan Dershowitz, Netanyahu, etc.) have been exploited by these VERY SAME Zionists and Israelis over generations.

Again, I highly recommend reading the book so that you can separate fact from fiction about the Holocaust (and also the extent of the false propagandization of the Holocaust by many Zionists - the their Western backers).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

No - I'm serious - it is a shitty, low-quality site masquerading as something being fair, objective, and evidence based.

This is similar to strategies used by Zionists to distort the truth. Zionists can (and have for ages) opened up committees under 'objective sounding names' similar to 'Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust'. I'm surprised you were not able to parse through the propaganda.

You should know that 'Holocaust denialism' (by pretending to be open and objective, etc.) is an industry.

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Jeff's avatar

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RainyNights's avatar

The Throne of Satan was established in Diseaserael. On purpose; as it is the Holy Land. Satan likes to corrupt. Hence, why he put his throne there & hence all kinds of unGodly actions are perpetrated there.

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Ismaele's avatar

As I wrote in my latest article, the Israeli army is an army of psychopaths!

https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/israeli-army-an-army-of-psychopaths?r=25fc37

Please let me reiterate my appeal to boycott TridAdvisor for their shameful "Gaza borders" tours: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/tripadvisor-and-the-gaza-border-tours

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RainyNights's avatar

Yes, an army of satanic stiff - neck psychopaths. For all the arrogance their citizens AND they have of themselves, plus the billions of dollars given to them, they are ridiculous looking. They are a bunch of mostly short rachitic- bodied or obese ( the females) rag tag army. Physically they are awkward & clumsy as hell. Of course, I can add— ugly as sin! 😂

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David Latin's avatar

Isn't it time to get rid of the most evil Anti-Human (by all accounts, and self-professed innumerable times!) entity on the planet?

They have made a mockery of ALL morality and International Laws, all standards of human decency.

They are considerably worse than the Afrikaner Apartheid state. Even Hitler's Nazis were ashamed of some of their deeds, 🇮🇱 knows no shame nor morality!

What 🇮🇱's pervasive utter BS does (eg. "most moral military"), is it F's our brains!!!

It is intolerable 🤯

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K Miller's avatar

I continue to be shocked at the silence when I say something about the genocide to people who I previously considered to be thoughtful, caring and intelligent humans. How is it possible that so many are ignoring the reality that has been Israel’s motives, goals and behavior for the last 7 decades? Israel is always positioned as the defenders and Palestinians the aggressors. It’s willful insanity.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Propaganda.

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K Miller's avatar

Of course. All of it.

AIPAC and their sycophants are vile trash.

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RainyNights's avatar

There comes a time no hasbara can force our brain to deny what our eyes have/ are seeing.

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

Thanks for wishing me paradise on earth, Caitlin, for every good thing conceivable: aid, great food, beautiful homes, gardens and orchards, support, respect from the rest of the world, peace and a powerful influence that will change the course of the whole world.

Israel must be stopped. Palestine must be given all the support possible, and it must have the freedom to choose its own destiny, leadership and all else concerning its country.

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sifubernie's avatar

the embodiment of evil

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