'the case is that some dead guys made some stuff up and put it in a book thousands of years ago.'
Yup. The word of an invisible god - scribed by a 72 person gaggle of "inspired" Hebrew theologians over 1500 years ago, somehow justifies the arbitrary borders of a modern State. O'righty then... Next >>>
This might be, but hundreds of years of hate for jews (pogroms etc. in Eastern Europe and to a certain extent everywhere - just look back at the view of the population of the US before and until the 60s) brought on this DRIVE for a jewish state (in combination with the fairy tale of the bible we got this mess - how do you convince people that are brainwashed for decades that israel has no right to exist??? )
Of course not - it is just a 'homegrown' tragedy that 'we' allowed to grow and fester! (and they had the ultimate weapon - antisemitism & holocaust industry!)
Which is just another made up story because israelis are and were European for thousands if years, the are not a semitic people and using antisemitism is another of their thefts.
For centuries most people have hated and feared the Jews. Maybe those people knew things some of us are just beginning to realize. This is a religion of psychopaths. It is built on a racist system full of hatred. How did Judaism get hijacked by such evil? Who in their right mind could ever support it? Zionism must be stopped before it destroys the whole world.
In my opinion most or all religions have incited extreme horrible crimes but for me the fact is that humans 'pervert' EVERYTHING - WE ARE A FLAWED experiment of the evolution.
Because every country they arrived in, that didn't immediately kick them out, soon wished they had. They always have to try to take over wherever they are. As we are finding out as those ancient people, too, found out; raping children is part of some jewish sects, who would easily accept a people like that?
People who do such ghastly things to children of their own people will do ten times worse to other people's children, as we are seeing in Palestine, and their rabbis are happy for them to do that.
Personally, I would never want to be anywhere near folk that are doing the things that devil worshippers were sentenced to death for.
I'm not saying all jews do those things, but somewhere along the line some started following dark satanic rituals and their rabbis encouraged it, and those people are now calling themselves israelis.
They need to be disbanded? Definitely. And they will go out shooting as when they arrived. Live by the gun, die by the gun.
We have never heard the full story of why 109 separate societies independently decided to expel the Jews. The Jewish version is “they just didn’t like us”. Maybe, maybe there’s more to the story.
As their sorcery WAR-lock, god-complex, psychopathic (and spy-chopathic) Buy-Bull stipulates in Deut. 23:20 (KJV), they are to only charge usury (interest) to the strangers but not to their brothers so they may POSSESS the land wherever they go. (Possess can mean both ownership and sorcery mind control). They even give gold's location in Gen. 2 before Eve is allegedly created. So, as the story goes throughout history, they basically infiltrated Kings or Pharaohs (like biblical Joseph did) to then control people and confiscate their lands via their usurious actions. Many of the "peasants" would rise up against these actions of theft, hence why, in part, they were kicked out of countries over 100 times, in the past.
Up until a certain point in history (I don’t know when), both Christians and Muslims were forbidden to charge interest on a loan. Thus, there was very little lending going on. Conversely, the Jews did not have this same prohibition. Thus, they lent money to both the rich and the poor. It seems entirely possible that when too many people got into trouble with these loans, they chose to repudiate them by expelling the lenders from their society. Just a guess.
Yes, from what I've read that is true about who was allowed to lend. The heads of governments would use these partnered Jews to build their empires and military through usury. The laws enacted, where Christians and/or Muslims were not able to practice lending, were probably made by these Jewish infiltrated governments to their benefit and self-interest (no pun intended), as they are VERY manipulative in a Machiavellian way, and also superficially charming, using their psychopathic expertise. They KNOW how to play to another's ego. The mind-projected story of biblical Joseph made that clear, by his phony dream interpretation that the Pharaoh supposedly had - 7 years of plenty, proceeded by 7 years of famine. Because Joseph had interpreted the Pharaoh's dreams, he was made 2nd in command to the Pharaoh. (How could the Pharaoh know if this were true or not, when the famine was still 7 years out? But the Pharaoh probably had a larger than normal ego, so someone like a Joseph played that advantage).
Famine means scarcity of food, and Joseph went about collecting up all the food supply in those 7 plenteous years, which caused the ultimate problem. In the first year of the famine the Egyptians then used up all their money buying back some of the stored food from Joseph and his ilk, hence the money supply was contracted. In the 2nd year, they gave up all their livestock, in order to eat bread. (Don't know why they couldn't eat, milk, or gather eggs from their animals unless new laws forbade it. Today we are witnessing our own food issues, from the culling of birds due to fake disease, to burning down or controlling food production facilities, or making it too expensive to eat beef, etc. Before WW1 the Jews controlled the beef industry in Russia). In the 3rd year, the Egyptians gave up their land in exchange for seeds (read that as a controlled Monsanto seed situation, which the Monsanto family was Jewish). The Egyptians then were able to grow seeds in the THIRD YEAR, therefore there was NOT 7 years of famine, so they must have run ahead of schedule. Further, they had to give up 20% of everything they grew to the Pharoah and Joseph's brethren - "unto this day." (Gen. 47 - KJV). Btw, after the Egyptians gave up their land, they were then moved to the cities. Think 15-minute cities we hear about today.
'countries' and 'nations' are abstract concepts. they should be denied 'rights' like corporations should be denied 'personhood'. nationalism and corporatism are fronts to hide from accountability.
Even worse, many of them want to take over the world, eradicate many of the goyim except for those who become their willing slaves, they have talked of this for far longer than Israel blinked into existence.
And yet, despite Zionazi brutality, butchery and general bastardry, they portray themselves as historical and current victims. Their attitude to goyim is reflective of sick, sick minds, and serious delusion.
Erm... Regarding delusions, hallucinations, hearing disembodied voices, and other theological pap: Revelation 10 >>> King James Version
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
For Goyim read Untermenchen. This is what the Nazis called most non-Germanic people, particularly the Slavic peoples of Europe. What they thought of indigenous people in the rest of the world goes without saying. I believe the Nazis even considered Americans to be inferior not a pure race like the "Aryan" race.
But it was the Slavic people of the USSR that took the brunt of Hitlers war and came back to defeat 80% of the Nazi army. The Slavs destroyed Hitlers dream of making them his slaves.
I am certain that the same will come to pass in West Asia for the zionists and their wet dream of Greater Israel. They will be defeated by Iran and its Arab Allies in Iraq Lebanon Yemen and Syria plus it's BRICS allies. What happens to the circa 7m zionists after the fall of Nethanyahu and his mob I cannot predict. But one thing is certain. Zionism a fascist ideology will be outlawed and stamped out. Woe betide any zionists who ever rear their ugly heads again in Palestine or West Asia.
The US Congress has the authority to withdraw all support for Israel. Without such support, Israel would end its wars, and would be at the mercy of the Palestinians.
Too many in Congress direct their allegiance, fealty, to israyhell....NOT to the US. Supplying BILLIONS OF $ to israyhellis to pulverize Iran IS NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It's for the benefit of Kushner, the members of the Epstein Class, et al.
It's not going to happen but probably not for the reasons you think. Remember it was the Rothschild's who wanted Israel in the first place. Everyone talks about how rich Musk is, his is pocket money compared to that family, not only would it be pocket change to keep Israel alive but as they prefer to keep their money in the bank, you can bet they have dirt on several in Congress.
The Persians will remain committed to defend themselves but may or may not be motivated to capture Eretz Israel.
The Palestinians, however, will fight for their homeland of the past 2,000 years.
The British and US interests in the region are for strategic control of access to fossil fuels and transportation from the Mediterranean Sea to China and India.
The Rothschild Family could purchase real estate to create their enclave elsewhere, if they have sufficient money.
Only if the five conditions are met that Iran has set, that is Iran saying that not myself. They know the chance of those conditions being met are a million to one but the conditions are there regardless.
I hope Iran never backs down. It would be suicide for them. We - *I* - do not believe one word coming from the Nazi apparatchics and commanders. We are no longer a serious country.
Not true, the National socialist never said that none Germans were "Untermensch" they the NSists said that all humans are different, and all humans have the right to their own homelands, cultures and not at the detriment of other people's. You I assume are still conditioned by the books that the jew, forced you to read in school. Unless you remove yourself from "Nazi" bad. Well you're going to be continually rulled by the jew!
Yeah, I'm not sure where the great Aryan myth about Germans came from, probably some film. Germany under Hitler was one of the least racist countries in the world, they had no problems like that. Jessie Owens could have told you, as in USA 4 times gold medal winner in the Olympics in Germany under Hitler.
As he came from racist, segregated US, he wasn't allowed to mix with whites, drink out of the same water fountain, buses, snack bars etc; yet when he and a German runner became friends he was amazed because they could travel on the bus and no one got the police if he sat next to someone white.
Hitler applauded his wins, acknowledged him personally and yet when the Olympics were over, the USA president didn't even send him a thank you note for bringing "home" four golds.
Thank you for your comment. And yet today Ukrainian Neo-Nazis who form the backbone of Zelenskys regime and the AFU worship the Ukrainian Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera. They see it as their mission to free Europe from the untermenchen i.e. Russian Slavs along with black and Muslim people. Not sure where they stand on Jews or zionists. BTW I come from a Western European country that was neutral in WW2.
It's not a popular view, but personally I'm not rooting for humanity in the approaching sentient AI vs humanity contest. Those with a dog in the fight (ie those with living descendants) may have a differing preference.
Probably there'll continue to be flesh-and-blood human beings - off in the margins. This view derives from daily observance of a world filled with grinning idiots, all acceding to technocracy.
I had to read mein kampf in high school for history. Hitler actually quite admired America and Britain; he regretted that he would inevitably have to go to war with them. He was primarily concerned about Russia.
America felt the same! The British believed strongly that the US might not enter the war, or might do so on the Nazi side, to the extent that we had agents working in America to influence American opinion against the Nazis (including the author Roald Dahl). To be fair, there were also British media and public figures accused of supporting the Nazis (including the Daily Mail, King Edward VIII and Errol Flynn).
It is believed by some that had Japan not attacked pearl harbour, the us might not have entered the war.
Historical evidence suggests kinship, rather than animosity, between the US and the Nazis.
That's true but many of those proxies have the Ashkenazi bloodlines running through them, just not fully. Most of them have to trace it back to great grandparents but it's there and a lot do what Starmer did, marry a Jewish wife and have the children brought up in the faith.
I think children should never have any religion forced on them, let them choose what they want to believe in or not when they are grown up. That's why China refuse to allow any religious events of any kind in their schools, if the children are taught a religion at home, fine, but it can never be taught in the school.
Dawkins for all his stupidity does now realise that living under a Christian God is more beneficial to his health than living under a muslime or a jew!
Do you know I am one of a very few people who doesn't believe the abused become the abuser, but I do think they use it as an excuse for their own crimes.
That is the reason Netanyahu wanted to give 150 million dollars to TPUSA? This organization that asks kids to examine conservatism, and give away baseball caps? THE ONLY REASON IS THEY WANT THE KIDS TO BE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH ZIONISTS.
They've been indoctrinated with it for decades upon decades but no one's managed to squelch it yet, unless Iran finally destroy enough to make them decide to get out, I'm not sure how to change them or their minds.
When you point out that the area defined in the Greater Israel fantasy has been unified several times before, but only by Arab or Proto-Arab states (stretching a point slightly with Cyrus’ Persian Empire and ancient Egypt), it tends to shut them up.
I'm not entirely convinced the USA has the right to exist even today. The land should be turned back over to the Native peoples. We wouldn't be in this military, environmental, immoral mess that we're currently in if we lived within their cultures.
Hey, that's exactly what's being said here. The LOSER is YOU, motherfucker, who apparently has the reading comprehension of a nematode. No not a toad, an intestinal parasite.
Israel cannot continue as it is. No invasive colonial attitude will ever create peace. It is a no-brainer. Violence breeds violence - QED, and we create what we defend against.
Bombing for peace is futile as copulating for virginity.
I had never heard that phrase before. Copulating for Virginity goes right to the brain stem in understanding. Thank you for that perfect argument and smile. : )
Zionist arguments invariably boil down to "might is right" and "my tribe above all!"
There's no real difference between Zionist and Nazi ideology and methods. Just a different choice of enemies. In fact, some Zionist ideologists have come out and said this.
Note how many Zionist arguments are rehashed propaganda from Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa.
What worries me is this new brand of Nazism now has nuclear weapons. Is the world about to experience something so imaginably horrific that it will be near impossible to fully comprehend its horror?
Some still argue that the bombs devastating Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "required"... others consider, in profane terms, that is a load of 🐃 💩. For the US and Israel: Nukes! Good! 🤗. Nukes for ANY OTHER STATE: Bad! 🤨
Even those who submitted and did not fight back are oppressed, discriminated against, tortured, and killed. It’s in the nature of Zionism and Israel to keep doing this.
I think there’s real weight in this argument. A system built on unequal rights is unlikely to produce stability, and the pattern over time has been one of conflict recurring rather than ending.
This essay by Caitlin gets to the core of the problem with Israel: Immediately after the end of World War II, the door closed on European colonialism. Europeans accepted that colonialism was immoral and began rapidly disbanding their colonial empires.
Those involved in establishing the modern nation of Israel tried to slip in through this closing door, but they got caught. The people already living in the land where Israel was established did not accept the creation of that state, and their descendants continue to resist it to this day (with support from some other nations).
the 'stability-argument' is somewhat of a hoax, imo. all western systems are kinda built on unequal rights. lots of despotic monarchies and ruling elites often managed peoples in stability for centuries. people are bred to prefer 'stability' over democratic self-rule.
Some notable examples that we’ve all heard thousands of times throughout our lifetimes:
1) “Israel has a right to exist.” (No, it doesn’t. People have a right to exist, nation states do not)
2) “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.” (An absurdity) Jewish supremacist apartheid ethnostates who rule over millions of people who have no rights whatsoever including the ability to vote for the people who rule over them are NOT democracies.
3) “Israel is our greatest ally” ( I mean in the same way a parasite is an ally to its host, sure.)
4) “The IDF is the most moral army in the world” (anyone who utters this shameless lie after watching any footage of their behavior at any point in their history from when they were founded by Zionist terrorist militas until this very day, deserves EVERY bad thing that has ever or will ever happen to them multiplied by a million)
So one thing Israeli propaganda or “hasbara” is known for is brainwashing by repetition. The way they do this is they and all their leashed goy slaves repeat word for word the same exact bullshit talking points they are all provided with, brain rotting it via slow drip into peoples brains.
There are numerous psychological studies that show that you can make masses of people believe ANYTHING, including absurdities if you just drill it into their heads over and over and over again. When people hear a lie spoken word for word from authority figures like politicians and legacy journalists they recognize and trust, it just supercharges the brainwashing.
The “israelis” know this and have relied heavily on this method from the very beginning of their European settler colony.
I could go on and on and on but you get it. Nearly everything good you’ve ever heard about “israel” is propaganda
1. LIE BIG: Big lies work better than small because the masses won't believe that anyone would lie "about that."
2. FOCUS: Don't make it complicated, ignore history, keep it simple for simple minds.
3. REPEAT: People cannot tell the difference between facts and familiarity. If they hear the same words repeated enough, they become true in their minds.
4. BLAME: Never credit the other side,: always blame, debase, defame, and dehumanize.
5. PROVOKE: Outrage, fear, and resentment are more powerful than reason, logic, or facts.
6. CRISIS: Issues must be life or death, good vs evil, love vs hate, us vs them.
Urgency defeats objection.
7. EMOTION: A person might question facts, but they will never question their own feelings. Go emotional.
8. PANDER: Ignore reasonable arguments, demonize all who disagree as having bad intentions.
9. NO LIMITS: Morality is for losers. The victor's morality will not be questioned. No limits.
Kind of like scammers, that’s how they get their victims. They promise big things and create urgency and we all fall for it. Israel is one big scam factory
Thank you Ron. You summarized well the facts. One lie is more powerful than 100 truths. Truth may prevail after very long time, but slow justice is NO justice. Justice must be almost instant to be useful.
What really goes on my nerves is that in all these 50+ years I never heard that "Palestine HAS right to exist" and that "Palestinians have right to self-defense". Where are all these Palestinian supporters? shitsrael can possibly maybe doubtfully exist in germany/hungary or on Falkland Islands (Malvinas), but that genocidal shithole has NO right to exist in ME. Especially not after what they did in the past 80 years. The world without israel and zionists will be infinitely better place.
The UN say it in muted tones once in a while but Israel still retain their chair, personally I would wish all organizations away that are a series of letters to represent them. Absolutely useless or supporting the bad guys every single time.
...and a euphemism for genocide. And that star is not "The Star of David" but The Star of Remphan, one of their satanic gods. That indicates where they belong.
It seems like we shall soon see. If the US is stupid enough to actually send in a relatively small ground force - there will be a level of American bloodshed not seen since Vietnam. That's got to wake up more Americans out of their current slumber, along with a quickly deepening economic crisis.
Once all those Marines, and Special Forces get slaughtered - all bets are off what comes next. But if they really do escalate more, the world will be economically fucked for many years to come.
I would prefer boring but just and normal life. I cannot control my anger and emotions while seeing so much injustice. Why do human creatures always have to come to the precipice of total destruction to maybe change something? Dinosaurus were intelligent. Humans absolutely not.
“Israel has a right to exist.” (No, it doesn’t. People have a right to exist, nation states do not) No such thing as “Israel has a Right to Exist”.
Israel so-called “Right to Exist” is a fiction. No state has such a right. What the question is really demanding is that Israel have the right to be an ‘apartheid state’.
Caitlin and Francesca Albanese are brutally honest with their judgement of Israel. The truth is shocking for those whose hearts have become hardened to human misery led by oligarchical neo-liberalism.
But as Caitlin says the status quo cannot be allowed to stand. How many infernos and genocides is the world going to watch?
Francesca says in her latest Report " that Israel uses torture in a systematic and widespread fashion, intentionally and sadistically, to break the spirit of the Palestinians, not just as individuals, but as a people... ".
Caitlin and Francesca are demanding justice. People have a right to exist, not Israel.
The foundational problem is the falsehood of the "chosen people". We are all chosen people according to Jesus Christ the Messiah. The modern day state of Israel was built on Talmudic lies written during the Jews Babylonian captivity. Lies that are taught in most modern day evangelical churches. Zionism is a scourge that has been exposed in all its demonic forms to the world at large by the actions of israhell and the USSA. For peace to come, it must be crushed.
Correct, which is why, if you really want to put yourself through reading the Talmud, always buy the Babylon Talmud, the plain Talmud existing misses plenty out.
Correct. The original Talmud has been heavily massaged many times over. Even the Babylonian Talmud has "acquired" permeable holes and redactions. The entire premise of Hebrew belief is based on illusion and absurdity. No wonder this 'class' of delusional parasites were thrown out of Egypt. But that's another story...
I'm sure more modern prints have had certain redactions, but the Babylonian version is still the best bet. Yes, I don't think they have ever forgiven Egypt.
Countries have certain obligations, like being peaceful, being a good neighbour to other countries, and when they refuse to fulfill those obligations, why should they be allowed to exist?
If this was a person in a rental unit, they'd be evicted. So why does Israel get to continue with its ongoing violence towards not only other countries but to the original inhabitants of the land it now occupies?
Because the Jews own the large European and American banks, financial institutions, legal firms and lobbies, the legislatures, and the media corporations. Stop not saying it.
That is what US and the west does all the time. Attack and occupy foreign countries and then claim self-defense when natives respond. There is no legal self-defense right for aggressors. The UN is dead and it is good so. It brought nothing but wars and gross injustice. It never stopped western aggressions and genocides.
I agree that's what the US does. But I don't think it's a bad idea to have some kind of world forum like the U.N. - nor is it a bad idea for a civilized country to have some kind of government. But the U.N. has been perverted to only serve US/Israel interests. It's quite a shame.
Israel, as a genocidal zionist entity occupying the Palestinian homeland, has long since forfeited any right to exist. 🇵🇸
'the case is that some dead guys made some stuff up and put it in a book thousands of years ago.'
Yup. The word of an invisible god - scribed by a 72 person gaggle of "inspired" Hebrew theologians over 1500 years ago, somehow justifies the arbitrary borders of a modern State. O'righty then... Next >>>
It never had the right to exist. Period.
This might be, but hundreds of years of hate for jews (pogroms etc. in Eastern Europe and to a certain extent everywhere - just look back at the view of the population of the US before and until the 60s) brought on this DRIVE for a jewish state (in combination with the fairy tale of the bible we got this mess - how do you convince people that are brainwashed for decades that israel has no right to exist??? )
IMHO, even their suffering at the hands of Nazi Germany does not excuse their ruthless persecution of the Palestinian people over the past 78 years.
Of course not - it is just a 'homegrown' tragedy that 'we' allowed to grow and fester! (and they had the ultimate weapon - antisemitism & holocaust industry!)
Which is just another made up story because israelis are and were European for thousands if years, the are not a semitic people and using antisemitism is another of their thefts.
Well said and agreed
For centuries most people have hated and feared the Jews. Maybe those people knew things some of us are just beginning to realize. This is a religion of psychopaths. It is built on a racist system full of hatred. How did Judaism get hijacked by such evil? Who in their right mind could ever support it? Zionism must be stopped before it destroys the whole world.
In my opinion most or all religions have incited extreme horrible crimes but for me the fact is that humans 'pervert' EVERYTHING - WE ARE A FLAWED experiment of the evolution.
Because every country they arrived in, that didn't immediately kick them out, soon wished they had. They always have to try to take over wherever they are. As we are finding out as those ancient people, too, found out; raping children is part of some jewish sects, who would easily accept a people like that?
People who do such ghastly things to children of their own people will do ten times worse to other people's children, as we are seeing in Palestine, and their rabbis are happy for them to do that.
Personally, I would never want to be anywhere near folk that are doing the things that devil worshippers were sentenced to death for.
I'm not saying all jews do those things, but somewhere along the line some started following dark satanic rituals and their rabbis encouraged it, and those people are now calling themselves israelis.
They need to be disbanded? Definitely. And they will go out shooting as when they arrived. Live by the gun, die by the gun.
We have never heard the full story of why 109 separate societies independently decided to expel the Jews. The Jewish version is “they just didn’t like us”. Maybe, maybe there’s more to the story.
As their sorcery WAR-lock, god-complex, psychopathic (and spy-chopathic) Buy-Bull stipulates in Deut. 23:20 (KJV), they are to only charge usury (interest) to the strangers but not to their brothers so they may POSSESS the land wherever they go. (Possess can mean both ownership and sorcery mind control). They even give gold's location in Gen. 2 before Eve is allegedly created. So, as the story goes throughout history, they basically infiltrated Kings or Pharaohs (like biblical Joseph did) to then control people and confiscate their lands via their usurious actions. Many of the "peasants" would rise up against these actions of theft, hence why, in part, they were kicked out of countries over 100 times, in the past.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2023%3A20&version=KJV
They use FEARS for FARES, via bogus PROPHETS for PROFITS, by those that PREY on those who PRAY.
Also, see Nakam and Operation Cast Thy Bread, where they poisoned bread or wells.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakam
Up until a certain point in history (I don’t know when), both Christians and Muslims were forbidden to charge interest on a loan. Thus, there was very little lending going on. Conversely, the Jews did not have this same prohibition. Thus, they lent money to both the rich and the poor. It seems entirely possible that when too many people got into trouble with these loans, they chose to repudiate them by expelling the lenders from their society. Just a guess.
Yes, from what I've read that is true about who was allowed to lend. The heads of governments would use these partnered Jews to build their empires and military through usury. The laws enacted, where Christians and/or Muslims were not able to practice lending, were probably made by these Jewish infiltrated governments to their benefit and self-interest (no pun intended), as they are VERY manipulative in a Machiavellian way, and also superficially charming, using their psychopathic expertise. They KNOW how to play to another's ego. The mind-projected story of biblical Joseph made that clear, by his phony dream interpretation that the Pharaoh supposedly had - 7 years of plenty, proceeded by 7 years of famine. Because Joseph had interpreted the Pharaoh's dreams, he was made 2nd in command to the Pharaoh. (How could the Pharaoh know if this were true or not, when the famine was still 7 years out? But the Pharaoh probably had a larger than normal ego, so someone like a Joseph played that advantage).
Famine means scarcity of food, and Joseph went about collecting up all the food supply in those 7 plenteous years, which caused the ultimate problem. In the first year of the famine the Egyptians then used up all their money buying back some of the stored food from Joseph and his ilk, hence the money supply was contracted. In the 2nd year, they gave up all their livestock, in order to eat bread. (Don't know why they couldn't eat, milk, or gather eggs from their animals unless new laws forbade it. Today we are witnessing our own food issues, from the culling of birds due to fake disease, to burning down or controlling food production facilities, or making it too expensive to eat beef, etc. Before WW1 the Jews controlled the beef industry in Russia). In the 3rd year, the Egyptians gave up their land in exchange for seeds (read that as a controlled Monsanto seed situation, which the Monsanto family was Jewish). The Egyptians then were able to grow seeds in the THIRD YEAR, therefore there was NOT 7 years of famine, so they must have run ahead of schedule. Further, they had to give up 20% of everything they grew to the Pharoah and Joseph's brethren - "unto this day." (Gen. 47 - KJV). Btw, after the Egyptians gave up their land, they were then moved to the cities. Think 15-minute cities we hear about today.
You don’t you shoot them
'countries' and 'nations' are abstract concepts. they should be denied 'rights' like corporations should be denied 'personhood'. nationalism and corporatism are fronts to hide from accountability.
Spot on.
Very well put Wolds.
The Zionist wet dream is the Nile to the Euphrates. The last century has been just the beginning…let that sink in for whats to come.
Even worse, many of them want to take over the world, eradicate many of the goyim except for those who become their willing slaves, they have talked of this for far longer than Israel blinked into existence.
And yet, despite Zionazi brutality, butchery and general bastardry, they portray themselves as historical and current victims. Their attitude to goyim is reflective of sick, sick minds, and serious delusion.
Erm... Regarding delusions, hallucinations, hearing disembodied voices, and other theological pap: Revelation 10 >>> King James Version
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2010&version=KJV
I guess nut jobs have a right to exist, or else...
https://www.guyane.catholique.fr/wp-content/uploads/sites/37/2018/11/Jean-mange-livre.jpg
I used to have this frame from the Apocalypse d’Angers - “Saint Jean mange le livre” - on my bedroom wall when I was a kid. I thought it was funny.
Not going to disagree with that. I only have to think of the Ghoul, Barbara Spectre talking. Evil personified.
For Goyim read Untermenchen. This is what the Nazis called most non-Germanic people, particularly the Slavic peoples of Europe. What they thought of indigenous people in the rest of the world goes without saying. I believe the Nazis even considered Americans to be inferior not a pure race like the "Aryan" race.
But it was the Slavic people of the USSR that took the brunt of Hitlers war and came back to defeat 80% of the Nazi army. The Slavs destroyed Hitlers dream of making them his slaves.
I am certain that the same will come to pass in West Asia for the zionists and their wet dream of Greater Israel. They will be defeated by Iran and its Arab Allies in Iraq Lebanon Yemen and Syria plus it's BRICS allies. What happens to the circa 7m zionists after the fall of Nethanyahu and his mob I cannot predict. But one thing is certain. Zionism a fascist ideology will be outlawed and stamped out. Woe betide any zionists who ever rear their ugly heads again in Palestine or West Asia.
I've said Iran will have the upper hand from day one, let's hope no peace deal made by USA giving into Iran five demands.
I can't see it but if Israel get sick of taking a pounding they may tell Trump to end it.
The US Congress has the authority to withdraw all support for Israel. Without such support, Israel would end its wars, and would be at the mercy of the Palestinians.
Of course. Israel would not survive a week without constant infusions of American cash, hardware, and strongarming America's catamites.
Too many in Congress direct their allegiance, fealty, to israyhell....NOT to the US. Supplying BILLIONS OF $ to israyhellis to pulverize Iran IS NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It's for the benefit of Kushner, the members of the Epstein Class, et al.
Don’t forget the US defense contractors and their cost-plus contracts for goods and services.
Or in the moment of now, the Iranians.
It's not going to happen but probably not for the reasons you think. Remember it was the Rothschild's who wanted Israel in the first place. Everyone talks about how rich Musk is, his is pocket money compared to that family, not only would it be pocket change to keep Israel alive but as they prefer to keep their money in the bank, you can bet they have dirt on several in Congress.
The Persians will remain committed to defend themselves but may or may not be motivated to capture Eretz Israel.
The Palestinians, however, will fight for their homeland of the past 2,000 years.
The British and US interests in the region are for strategic control of access to fossil fuels and transportation from the Mediterranean Sea to China and India.
The Rothschild Family could purchase real estate to create their enclave elsewhere, if they have sufficient money.
They would be killed like Charlie Kirk if they did so. The real authority is not the rule of law, but the Israeli lobby.
The US Congress won't do anything but kiss Trump's ass so long as Republicans control it.
There will be no peace deal.
Trump is a master of the Fart of the Deal. We can smell it, globally.
Only if the five conditions are met that Iran has set, that is Iran saying that not myself. They know the chance of those conditions being met are a million to one but the conditions are there regardless.
I hope Iran never backs down. It would be suicide for them. We - *I* - do not believe one word coming from the Nazi apparatchics and commanders. We are no longer a serious country.
Americans don't give a shit what Iran's demands are. Are you effing kidding me? lol
Obviously,
No, no, no! It was 'Merica what won the war. Pretty much by themselves. Donald said so, so it must be true.
Thank you, it was time for some light to come in 🤣🤣🤣
Not true, the National socialist never said that none Germans were "Untermensch" they the NSists said that all humans are different, and all humans have the right to their own homelands, cultures and not at the detriment of other people's. You I assume are still conditioned by the books that the jew, forced you to read in school. Unless you remove yourself from "Nazi" bad. Well you're going to be continually rulled by the jew!
Yeah, I'm not sure where the great Aryan myth about Germans came from, probably some film. Germany under Hitler was one of the least racist countries in the world, they had no problems like that. Jessie Owens could have told you, as in USA 4 times gold medal winner in the Olympics in Germany under Hitler.
As he came from racist, segregated US, he wasn't allowed to mix with whites, drink out of the same water fountain, buses, snack bars etc; yet when he and a German runner became friends he was amazed because they could travel on the bus and no one got the police if he sat next to someone white.
Hitler applauded his wins, acknowledged him personally and yet when the Olympics were over, the USA president didn't even send him a thank you note for bringing "home" four golds.
Veronica: Nobody gives a shit about the 1936 Olympics. Get your head out of the sand!
It's not me that keeps bringing Germany up at every touch and turn. Personally I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
Thank you for your comment. And yet today Ukrainian Neo-Nazis who form the backbone of Zelenskys regime and the AFU worship the Ukrainian Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera. They see it as their mission to free Europe from the untermenchen i.e. Russian Slavs along with black and Muslim people. Not sure where they stand on Jews or zionists. BTW I come from a Western European country that was neutral in WW2.
Tribalism lives. Attempts to stamp it out all eventually fail.
Computer takeover may have stomped it out.
It's not a popular view, but personally I'm not rooting for humanity in the approaching sentient AI vs humanity contest. Those with a dog in the fight (ie those with living descendants) may have a differing preference.
Probably there'll continue to be flesh-and-blood human beings - off in the margins. This view derives from daily observance of a world filled with grinning idiots, all acceding to technocracy.
I had to read mein kampf in high school for history. Hitler actually quite admired America and Britain; he regretted that he would inevitably have to go to war with them. He was primarily concerned about Russia.
America felt the same! The British believed strongly that the US might not enter the war, or might do so on the Nazi side, to the extent that we had agents working in America to influence American opinion against the Nazis (including the author Roald Dahl). To be fair, there were also British media and public figures accused of supporting the Nazis (including the Daily Mail, King Edward VIII and Errol Flynn).
It is believed by some that had Japan not attacked pearl harbour, the us might not have entered the war.
Historical evidence suggests kinship, rather than animosity, between the US and the Nazis.
But israelis can achieve that only because they use stupid goyim proxies to fight and die for them. Why?
That's true but many of those proxies have the Ashkenazi bloodlines running through them, just not fully. Most of them have to trace it back to great grandparents but it's there and a lot do what Starmer did, marry a Jewish wife and have the children brought up in the faith.
I agree with Richard Dawkins that indoctrinating children into religious belief is child abuse.
I think children should never have any religion forced on them, let them choose what they want to believe in or not when they are grown up. That's why China refuse to allow any religious events of any kind in their schools, if the children are taught a religion at home, fine, but it can never be taught in the school.
Dawkins for all his stupidity does now realise that living under a Christian God is more beneficial to his health than living under a muslime or a jew!
Do you know I am one of a very few people who doesn't believe the abused become the abuser, but I do think they use it as an excuse for their own crimes.
That is the reason Netanyahu wanted to give 150 million dollars to TPUSA? This organization that asks kids to examine conservatism, and give away baseball caps? THE ONLY REASON IS THEY WANT THE KIDS TO BE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH ZIONISTS.
This is the dream of "Greater Israel." It needs to be squelched.
They've been indoctrinated with it for decades upon decades but no one's managed to squelch it yet, unless Iran finally destroy enough to make them decide to get out, I'm not sure how to change them or their minds.
Good source
https://imeu.org/resources/resources/in-their-own-words-israeli-leaders-on-the-expulsion-of-palestinians-during-israels-establishment/226
That is just the start. God promised them the whole world...so they say. Guess what 1 world government actually is.
When you point out that the area defined in the Greater Israel fantasy has been unified several times before, but only by Arab or Proto-Arab states (stretching a point slightly with Cyrus’ Persian Empire and ancient Egypt), it tends to shut them up.
Se me hace que ya quieren el mundo!
may that dream never be realized and their ambitions thwarted
It's the meaning of the Israel's flag. A Purloigned Letter of sorts...
Nazi Germany didn't have a right to exist. Apartheid South Africa doesn't have a right to exist. I could go on.
The USA pre-13th Amendment. NO Apartheid state has the right to exist. period!
I'm not entirely convinced the USA has the right to exist even today. The land should be turned back over to the Native peoples. We wouldn't be in this military, environmental, immoral mess that we're currently in if we lived within their cultures.
I'd be hard-pressed to disagree. Definitely restore the Native lands.
Restore our indigenous lands and return all you fucking white people to where you fucking belong
Hey, that's exactly what's being said here. The LOSER is YOU, motherfucker, who apparently has the reading comprehension of a nematode. No not a toad, an intestinal parasite.
No state has the right to exist. States exist if they can.
There were no Gas Chambers and Six Million Jews did not die during WWII. Stop believing Jewish lies.
Next will be: there was no gaza genocide; stop believing muslim lies..
Unlike the Holocaust there are videos of Palestinians being slaughtered by the IDF.
Yes, good point, but that shouldn't stop the march of irrationality - which can get around any evidence.
You're right. Nobody has a right to exist including Iran!
Iran will survive this current war. Israel may not.
One can only hope. A World without Israel would be a more peaceful one.
If you think I care whether Israel survives this war or any future war I can tell you I don't care and I think the creation of Israel was a mistake.
Israel cannot continue as it is. No invasive colonial attitude will ever create peace. It is a no-brainer. Violence breeds violence - QED, and we create what we defend against.
Bombing for peace is futile as copulating for virginity.
I had never heard that phrase before. Copulating for Virginity goes right to the brain stem in understanding. Thank you for that perfect argument and smile. : )
This is entirely intentional.
the empire (not 'we', 'we' should really stop identifying with it, imo) is never 'defending'.
Jane: I think you've forgotten what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki!
What, USA testing their new toys then claiming it ended the war with Japan?
Exactly, even though Japan had already indicated that it wanted to surrender.
Zionist arguments invariably boil down to "might is right" and "my tribe above all!"
There's no real difference between Zionist and Nazi ideology and methods. Just a different choice of enemies. In fact, some Zionist ideologists have come out and said this.
Note how many Zionist arguments are rehashed propaganda from Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa.
Zionism=Nazism=Facism=Exceptionalism=Americanism=West
=Capitalism
What worries me is this new brand of Nazism now has nuclear weapons. Is the world about to experience something so imaginably horrific that it will be near impossible to fully comprehend its horror?
Some still argue that the bombs devastating Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "required"... others consider, in profane terms, that is a load of 🐃 💩. For the US and Israel: Nukes! Good! 🤗. Nukes for ANY OTHER STATE: Bad! 🤨
Even those who submitted and did not fight back are oppressed, discriminated against, tortured, and killed. It’s in the nature of Zionism and Israel to keep doing this.
I think there’s real weight in this argument. A system built on unequal rights is unlikely to produce stability, and the pattern over time has been one of conflict recurring rather than ending.
This essay by Caitlin gets to the core of the problem with Israel: Immediately after the end of World War II, the door closed on European colonialism. Europeans accepted that colonialism was immoral and began rapidly disbanding their colonial empires.
Those involved in establishing the modern nation of Israel tried to slip in through this closing door, but they got caught. The people already living in the land where Israel was established did not accept the creation of that state, and their descendants continue to resist it to this day (with support from some other nations).
Marx knew this more than a century ago.
Israel sees this as a feature, not a bug.
the 'stability-argument' is somewhat of a hoax, imo. all western systems are kinda built on unequal rights. lots of despotic monarchies and ruling elites often managed peoples in stability for centuries. people are bred to prefer 'stability' over democratic self-rule.
Some notable examples that we’ve all heard thousands of times throughout our lifetimes:
1) “Israel has a right to exist.” (No, it doesn’t. People have a right to exist, nation states do not)
2) “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.” (An absurdity) Jewish supremacist apartheid ethnostates who rule over millions of people who have no rights whatsoever including the ability to vote for the people who rule over them are NOT democracies.
3) “Israel is our greatest ally” ( I mean in the same way a parasite is an ally to its host, sure.)
4) “The IDF is the most moral army in the world” (anyone who utters this shameless lie after watching any footage of their behavior at any point in their history from when they were founded by Zionist terrorist militas until this very day, deserves EVERY bad thing that has ever or will ever happen to them multiplied by a million)
So one thing Israeli propaganda or “hasbara” is known for is brainwashing by repetition. The way they do this is they and all their leashed goy slaves repeat word for word the same exact bullshit talking points they are all provided with, brain rotting it via slow drip into peoples brains.
There are numerous psychological studies that show that you can make masses of people believe ANYTHING, including absurdities if you just drill it into their heads over and over and over again. When people hear a lie spoken word for word from authority figures like politicians and legacy journalists they recognize and trust, it just supercharges the brainwashing.
The “israelis” know this and have relied heavily on this method from the very beginning of their European settler colony.
I could go on and on and on but you get it. Nearly everything good you’ve ever heard about “israel” is propaganda
The Nine Principles of Propaganda
1. LIE BIG: Big lies work better than small because the masses won't believe that anyone would lie "about that."
2. FOCUS: Don't make it complicated, ignore history, keep it simple for simple minds.
3. REPEAT: People cannot tell the difference between facts and familiarity. If they hear the same words repeated enough, they become true in their minds.
4. BLAME: Never credit the other side,: always blame, debase, defame, and dehumanize.
5. PROVOKE: Outrage, fear, and resentment are more powerful than reason, logic, or facts.
6. CRISIS: Issues must be life or death, good vs evil, love vs hate, us vs them.
Urgency defeats objection.
7. EMOTION: A person might question facts, but they will never question their own feelings. Go emotional.
8. PANDER: Ignore reasonable arguments, demonize all who disagree as having bad intentions.
9. NO LIMITS: Morality is for losers. The victor's morality will not be questioned. No limits.
A helpful dissection of propaganda. Helps recognize the alphabet soup we're all soaking in.
Kind of like scammers, that’s how they get their victims. They promise big things and create urgency and we all fall for it. Israel is one big scam factory
Excellent!
100%.
Thank you Ron. You summarized well the facts. One lie is more powerful than 100 truths. Truth may prevail after very long time, but slow justice is NO justice. Justice must be almost instant to be useful.
What really goes on my nerves is that in all these 50+ years I never heard that "Palestine HAS right to exist" and that "Palestinians have right to self-defense". Where are all these Palestinian supporters? shitsrael can possibly maybe doubtfully exist in germany/hungary or on Falkland Islands (Malvinas), but that genocidal shithole has NO right to exist in ME. Especially not after what they did in the past 80 years. The world without israel and zionists will be infinitely better place.
The UN say it in muted tones once in a while but Israel still retain their chair, personally I would wish all organizations away that are a series of letters to represent them. Absolutely useless or supporting the bad guys every single time.
It is psychopathic bs. Plain and simple.
Instead of listening to their lies look at their
map of Greater Israel this is their goal to expand throughout
the Middle East the plans are all there it’s not about Hamas or Hezbollah
Yep, Ersatz Israel, then global slavery under Pharisaism.
...and a euphemism for genocide. And that star is not "The Star of David" but The Star of Remphan, one of their satanic gods. That indicates where they belong.
It's a hate symbol, just like the swastika. I don't care about it's theological origins.
Or as Amos 5:26 says " But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chi-un your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves"
It's Humanity or Zionism.
We really need to get to grips with this, immediately.
It seems like we shall soon see. If the US is stupid enough to actually send in a relatively small ground force - there will be a level of American bloodshed not seen since Vietnam. That's got to wake up more Americans out of their current slumber, along with a quickly deepening economic crisis.
Once all those Marines, and Special Forces get slaughtered - all bets are off what comes next. But if they really do escalate more, the world will be economically fucked for many years to come.
We live in interesting times. Alas.
I would prefer boring but just and normal life. I cannot control my anger and emotions while seeing so much injustice. Why do human creatures always have to come to the precipice of total destruction to maybe change something? Dinosaurus were intelligent. Humans absolutely not.
The passive public viewing of the outcome of Oct 7 brings shame at being in human form, which serves posthumanness, today's coin of the realm.
It aches the soul thinking of all the misery & destruction & death.
And then imagining how things could be.
Francesca Albanese
UN Special Rapporteur
“Israel has a right to exist.” (No, it doesn’t. People have a right to exist, nation states do not) No such thing as “Israel has a Right to Exist”.
Israel so-called “Right to Exist” is a fiction. No state has such a right. What the question is really demanding is that Israel have the right to be an ‘apartheid state’.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DQQVMk5FW/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Ron Hollis,
Caitlin and Francesca Albanese are brutally honest with their judgement of Israel. The truth is shocking for those whose hearts have become hardened to human misery led by oligarchical neo-liberalism.
But as Caitlin says the status quo cannot be allowed to stand. How many infernos and genocides is the world going to watch?
Francesca says in her latest Report " that Israel uses torture in a systematic and widespread fashion, intentionally and sadistically, to break the spirit of the Palestinians, not just as individuals, but as a people... ".
Caitlin and Francesca are demanding justice. People have a right to exist, not Israel.
The foundational problem is the falsehood of the "chosen people". We are all chosen people according to Jesus Christ the Messiah. The modern day state of Israel was built on Talmudic lies written during the Jews Babylonian captivity. Lies that are taught in most modern day evangelical churches. Zionism is a scourge that has been exposed in all its demonic forms to the world at large by the actions of israhell and the USSA. For peace to come, it must be crushed.
Correct, which is why, if you really want to put yourself through reading the Talmud, always buy the Babylon Talmud, the plain Talmud existing misses plenty out.
Correct. The original Talmud has been heavily massaged many times over. Even the Babylonian Talmud has "acquired" permeable holes and redactions. The entire premise of Hebrew belief is based on illusion and absurdity. No wonder this 'class' of delusional parasites were thrown out of Egypt. But that's another story...
ALL religious belief is based on illusion and absurdity.
plus the Unlove of life.
I'm sure more modern prints have had certain redactions, but the Babylonian version is still the best bet. Yes, I don't think they have ever forgiven Egypt.
Countries have certain obligations, like being peaceful, being a good neighbour to other countries, and when they refuse to fulfill those obligations, why should they be allowed to exist?
If this was a person in a rental unit, they'd be evicted. So why does Israel get to continue with its ongoing violence towards not only other countries but to the original inhabitants of the land it now occupies?
Because the Jews own the large European and American banks, financial institutions, legal firms and lobbies, the legislatures, and the media corporations. Stop not saying it.
Well, according to the Israelis, it is they that are constantly being attacked. They're the victim!
That is what US and the west does all the time. Attack and occupy foreign countries and then claim self-defense when natives respond. There is no legal self-defense right for aggressors. The UN is dead and it is good so. It brought nothing but wars and gross injustice. It never stopped western aggressions and genocides.
I agree that's what the US does. But I don't think it's a bad idea to have some kind of world forum like the U.N. - nor is it a bad idea for a civilized country to have some kind of government. But the U.N. has been perverted to only serve US/Israel interests. It's quite a shame.