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So well put -- a morality problem, not a generational or Tik-Tok problem. And many of us older folks are pro-Palestine too. And not anti-semitic. Genocide and apartheid are just not OK.

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Exactly. It's fundamental. The brilliant morality dimension Caitlin uncovers is a key to ferocious response that now, for the first time in my recent memory of protests, is *not* dying down from elite dismissals and attacks.

In a hermetically-sealed echo chamber like U.S.'s MSM one that was built up over decades, the heat inside can climb pretty high before it finally all blows sky-high. And here we now are, with clueless elites scratching their heads in amazement while doubling down to their demise, with creative new threats of "you'll never work in this town again!", and worse. (Just ask Jan. 6 defendants.) They have *no idea* what they now sound like.

What's happening now by MSM and politicians vs. pro-Palestinian protests here in the streets of NYC (and the rest of the nation and world), reminds me very much, respectively, of Ceaușescu's dumbfounded reaction on his balcony when the Romanian people of Bucharest, under threat of imprisonment and worse, dared to start yelling back to him from the crowd on December 21, 1989. A primal scream.

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This is the long awaited Bifurcation of humanity. Where sociopaths are divorced from the empaths/innocent.

When the trash goes into the fire of gehenna to be reprocessed, there will be no one left to hear their whining and moaning. For they had helped genocide all that would have helped. A truly poetic and divine justice.

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Yeah I am one of those sad old boomers, but Israel's genocidal actions are making me sick. I can remember the '67 War, and at the time I was fanatically pro-Israel, to the point that even my dad, around 50 give or take, tried to kind of reel me in a bit. Don't know for sure how I got here. It was a long process, going on into my 20s and maybe even 30s. The transition happened with so many other issues, too. I think my absolute peak Israel moment was their 2006 invasion of Lebanon, although I had been troubled by their actions before that. I just don't know how to reach anybody with any kind of thoughts or ideas that might move them.

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For me, the switch to anti-Israel, was a combination of the attack on the USS Liberty (which took decades to be revealed) and the bulldozer running over Rachel Corrie.

The documentaries "The Lobby" on youTube, made me realize the evil of the ADL and AIPAC which have turned the USA into a Fascist state. While these organizations claim to protect Jews, that claim is a false-front to hide their true goal of neo-Colonialism.

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I never made a “switch”.

I’ve been supporting the underdog since I read, as I’ve probably mentioned here more than once, the heartrending book “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” as a teenager. That alone was enough to make me an advocate for displaced indigenous peoples everywhere, as well as those Amerikkka waged wars upon (at that time, Vietnam) and those whose countries were colonized (think about anywhere in Africa).

I was dismayed at the ‘67 war. The Palestinians had no army, Air Force nor navy. Yet they were the ones being forced to pay the price for the war that Israhell initiated by becoming what’s euphemistically known as “occupied”.

Even as a child, I never saw the Soviet Union or China as the “Red Menace”, no matter how many times our schoolteachers tried to drill it into us.

Amerikkkans love a “winner”, right or wrong; I suspect that’s why so any of my generation are/were supporters of IsraHell.

Not me. I’ve stood by the oppressed my entire life and will continue to do so.

Again, dear Caitlin, THANK YOU ❤️.

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Wow! are YOU- ME? 🙏🥰❤️ At age 7 - 1955 or so-when my dad told me what an underdog was...there I am! Yes Im exactly ad old as the Nakba, sadly.😔

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There’s nothing wrong with being as old as the Nakba, Bernadene! I’m a 69-year-old redneck cowgirl. Often with age comes wisdom and empathy. I happen to think you ROCK!

And we just might share a split soul.

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@ gypsy33-Bernadene Zennie-Jeano😎

Rock & Roll girls!!!

As Usual,

EA

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Woohoo and yeehaw, EA!

We like your style too!

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I knew I liked your comments a lot! A cowgirl redneck of 69 glorious years and a rebel hippy of 79 kick ass years. So great to meet you. And I see now we are 3 with Bernadene. As long as there are some people who automatically take the side of the underdog, this country has a chance. But late arrivals are welcome too!!!

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Thanks Jeano! I was immediately drawn to your comments as well when I first began frequenting this wonderful website.

I’m an old hippie myself (which goes to show one can be a redneck hippie, lol. I wasn’t born a red neck ; I had to LEARN it 😉)

The three of us kick serious ass! 😁

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I agree!!! Redneck women rule!!! Never saw a tougher bunch that made tough look sexy!!!

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Plus I see Robert Stiver joined us with a like. This is gettin’ good!

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You just described me, Jeano: tough and sexy as hell! 😉

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"I just don't know how to reach anybody with any kind of thoughts or ideas that might move them."

Timothy, you've done your job. Each person's job is to change/grow/evolve themselves. We can do our best to be an example to others, but it's not our place to change them.

It's God's job to change the world, not ours. To believe otherwise is to be practising "Tikkun Olam," and we can see where that takes us.

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the avatars of god are already here on Earth. They have seen every single thing humanity has done in the name of "war" and greed.

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By changing ourselves we do change the world a tiny bit. I am not sure of the existence of God, but if she is there, I think she would expect us to look after the world we live in. We haven't been doing a very good job of that.

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There are many gods, many elohim and many seraphim, of different power levels. The Most High, howeve,r has no gender or polarity, as it consists of ALL.

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Me too. Except I think I'm too old to be a boomer.

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Remember the liberty.

For me, given my rank, I must remain neutral on human national conflicts and tribalism. But personally, hamas and palestine gained my favor when I realized they, like Russian slavs, are the House of Isis Ra el. The 12 tribes of true israel. Palestine=judea=judah=benjamine.

Humanity is genociding god's own. Let my people go, Pharoah.

Or else... well you know.

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To my shame now, I used to read books about the early settlers as adventure stories, and, uncomprehending, saw the kibbutzes as bastions of freedom, farmers making a barren land blossom. I admired their anarcho-syndicalist ideals of government. They described themselves as heroically manning barricades, keeping guard against the barbaric hordes of invading Arabs. It was meeting some Palestinians when I worked at the London School of Economics in the 70s that changed my mind, hearing first hand accounts of what happened to them - i.e. being evicted and dispersed. I realised the kibbutzim were not fighters bravely defending their land - they were the invaders, the aggressors, the thieves - they were the terrorists.

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The IDF really reminds me of Sterling's draka. The southern slave plantation owners also had this type of ideology baked in.

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Most what I hear from the Israel supporter is all Palestinians are anamals.

I often imagine them doing this with a Nazi salute..

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many Israelis use phrases like, 'finish what we started in 1948', 'drive them all into Egypt', 'leave Gaza with no buildings', 'send over one big rocket' - what they all add up to is the "final solution".

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We stand in Solidarity with Palestine. But we must recognize that the United States Military and Intelligence apparatus is firmly behind Israel’s genocide directed against the People of Palestine.

Global research

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David please inform us of what exactly is this lie?

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Coward

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IF you are talking about David Benkoff in the comments. Yes he is a coward if he does not come up with something substantial to say.

No point posting on here if you have nothing to say.

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Yes it was David I meant...and yes just calling me a liar is not explanation enough.

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Also Bibi just spent last few years on a domestic genocide / blood money operation and speaks openly about the commercialization, without consent of all of even the most intimate and personal of Israeli data...

Bibi Met with architect of Yom Kippur war Henry Kissinger days before the ~8 hour stand down used to start this false flag operation .

Intelligence failure?

Yeah right a tragic just like Mossad and CIA being tragically unaware of pedo island 🙄

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What it all boils down to is that the WORLD is being run by PSYCHOPATHIC CONTROL FREAK PARASITES! It is the MAJOR issue! https://courageouslionjusmeumtuebor.substack.com/p/problem-psychopathic-control-freaks

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Direct democracy is a strong antidote to the psychopaths' poisonous assault on us. We do not need politicians. The public & the experts consulted should be in charge. Think of it as village meetings. The local community's strength is established and maintained. Attendance not compulsory and anyone who attends would be able to speak freely. Anything untoward from contributors would be dealt with, hopefully in a non-violent way, by the entire village. Thus the village affairs would be in the hands of the villagers. This approach was taken in Libya under Gaddafi's guidance. Local issues were addressed and any remedy request was handed up to a centralised administration to supply the means to carry it out.

Going further afield for matters affecting a wider geographic area would be a relatively simple matter as we have the technology these days to network & discuss the issues without building new expensive pointless parliamentary edifices for psychopathic 'representatives' to strut around barking nasty orders at us.

Libya, in my view, was destroyed by the West's crème de la crème of psychopathic politicians as they were scared stiff of such a full blooded and working example of a SOCIALIST system coming to the notice of the cattle people in their own tightly controlled countries. There were other reasons as well of course (gold, oil, new weaponry demonstrations to drum up international arms sales, gold, petrodollar v. euro, a new **usury-free** currency for Africa, gold, rampant bloodlust, gold, etc., etc.) but I think that those psychos were essentially maximally terrified of people power.

Village meetings do not need the permission of the psychos to go ahead. We can rebuild our world to our specifications and certainly not theirs which appears to be an embryonic Fourth Reich which is no more than a seriously toxic feudal system v2.0 with bells & whistles. On our side we have more of us. In other words, there's nothing stopping us from accessing what I believe is the socio-political remedy for our many ills. Doing nothing is not an option.

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Humans are shifting to thinking locally. The entire concept of government needs to be rethought. We don’t need “rulers” and 90% of what government involves itself in are things it shouldn’t be involved in at all. Democracy might work for some issues, but it is essentially mob rule if it’s the only decision process.

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Democracy can work as long as it doesn't FORCE violent actions against those who disagree. If 51% vote to disarm me, the only way they could do it is with force. And if I'm a peaceful person, which for all intents I am, I have the right to defend myself against that kind of force as long as I was harming no one else. So yes, democracy can work in many situations but it can't be used as a weapon against the minority as it is these days. 51% vote in a criminal psychopathic control freak PARASITE who sends armed men to steal from me to support what THEY want. It is as follows..written by Bastiat in 1850... The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish!

If this is true, it is a serious fact, and moral duty requires me to call attention of my fellow citizens to it. https://bornagainclassics.com/Books/TheLaw.html

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I have read “The Law”. Bastiat does a great job of stating his case, and his sense of humor and irony made me laugh out loud through much of it.

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Both The Lion & yourself have given me a lead to a work that I feel I must now read. Thanks to the two of you for the intellectual food!

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Government has the IRS. the force through violence through law.

Don't forget to sign and date those tax checks. Like obediant serfs

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Ain’t a-gonna happen with me this year, Chaz! 😉

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William Jeffreys: "Democracy ... it is essentially mob rule if it’s the only decision process."

Courageous Lion: "51% vote in a criminal psychopathic control freak PARASITE "

Because they are ignorant. Not because they are insufficiently intelligent. It is a problem with system incompleteness and corruption, not democracy. If 50+% were sociopaths/psychopaths, *then* you can argue democracy is the problem.

Moreover, in a well-run democracy, the "stupid" willingly follow the "smart". (Think of what regularly happens in ad-hoc and in impromptu small groups.) Yes, hard to imagine these days in gov. But, in fact the biggest problems result from the "stupid" being ABUSED by the "smart". And that comes primarily, if not exclusively, from sociopathy/psychopathy.

What's the alternative to democracy? Tiny communities? Seriously? You don't think sociopaths/psychopaths will *still* successfully band together to lord over the normal people? With the level of technology that exists today?? After all, it's what they've already been doing *for decades* with resounding success! Our only hope requires *large* groups, of some new, fully-accountable forms(s).

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Perhaps there is no answer and its the looming extinction event over the horizon that will solve all our problems.

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Decentralisation is the key word! Share the power out! There's far too much power being given to only a few people in representational demockery and those people tend to be psychopaths and sociopaths who are never ever satisfied. Lord Acton was right about absolute power corrupting absolutely. Furthermore, that horrorshow on two legs, Kissinger, has pointed out that power is also a huge aphrodisiac. I think he's probably right on that one as it goes someway to help understand why there's so much overwhelming sexual abuse going on in the ruling strata. Power is really dangerous if not properly respected. We're much safer in the village meeting scenario à la Gaddafi. He called it "Jamahariya" http://openanthropology.org/libya/gaddafi-green-book.pdf

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Yep. The Spiritual component must be involved. In other words, God, whatever you wanna call it- a power that’s greater than an individual that works in a loving way through groups -the Holy Spirit, the spirit of goodness- of love, whatever you wanna call it, it must be present to inhibit ego and power.

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You might be a deist and not realize it. http://deism.com

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The problem there is everyone starts to want to force everyone else into their belife...back to square one

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Mob rule is shown by the IDF to us all how that exactly works. Just don't be like ukraine nazis and idf nazis. Pretty easy.

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Even before your example there was this. Although, perhaps we should see it in more updated terms and terminology? “The elementary republics of the wards, the county republics, the states republics, and the republic of the Union ...Where every man is a sharer in the direction of his ward-republic,..., not merely at an election one day in the year, but everyday; when there shall not be a man in the State who will not be a member of some one of its councils...” - Letter to Joseph Cabell from Thomas Jefferson February 2, 1816.

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Yes! We've been encouraged/nudged into abnegating the responsibility for our own lives to [psychopathic] strangers that we've been brainwashed into voting for. Along with toxic usury carefully wrapped around what we use as money, the old adage 'softly, softly, catchee monkey' demonstrates how the Zionists have imprisoned us in our ignorance. We should organise & escape their travesty of a [Zionist] world. In the UK, the putrescent Zionist warpig Tony Blair, gave us his own empty words way back in May, 2001, "Education!, Education!, Education!". We should take those words and use them to rid our power structures of such toxic people and return people's lives to them. Trouble is that they like their own little personal 'no-thinking' bubble & rush each day to put the TV on to find out what they must think about.

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And the not so hidden meaning behind Blair's "Education!, Education!, Education!" is really "Indoctrination!, Indoctrination!, Indoctrination!," via the 10th plank communist manifesto public school cisterns.

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Thomas Jefferson was wise in many ways, but he was personally problematic and rationalized, and did not really live the things that have been extrapolated from what he wrote. Sorry. he was not egalitarian not really not in any. Real.Way. and neither were the founders of this country. 3/5 of a human being? come on come on. “King George, you set the savages on us.“??? PLEASE

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Yes, Bernadene. Slave owners all.

I believe that’s why I became a Civil War buff; because it eventually resulted in abolition. Slavery is the absolutely worst institution the world has ever known; and the Zios talk about their “holocaust”.

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And yet here we are...ALL OF US, slaves to the money lenders, slaves to the taxing agents of the government, and slaves to those who steal our wages and life blood via "income" tax. So if it is the worst institution the world has ever known, why is it so prevalent? is it because we "think" we are free? But in REALITY are not?

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What kind of time machine are you using to go back and spend some time with the founding fathers? I'm curious. The CONSTITUTION isn't perfect, because those who wrote it weren't perfect. As it stands today, you may THINK you're not a slave, but facts fly in the face of that belief. So you're 5/5ths of a person today, but you're STILL a slave. The problem isn't with the Constitution or the Founding fathers, the problem is with the IGNORING of it. They understood that if you let non property owners vote that that they would vote the property away from property owners. Has that proven to be the case? Just for one example.

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Nevertheless, on some subjects he has some important things to say. Did you ever read Jefferson’s draft of the Declaration of Independence? In it, amongst the enumerations of the evils of the Kingwas the following, which was struck out:

“He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it’s [sic] most sacred rights of life, and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither.”

Powerful statement, from one who could not live up to those ideals.

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And you know he did or did not live up to those ideals HOW?

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I have been thinking that we have the technology today to have a world-wide village meeting.

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For world-wide problems such as plastic waste in the seas this is exactly what is needed to instigate real action. You've cheered me up! Maybe there's a new ultra-democratic 'UN' on the horizon this way as well because the old one is completely and utterly useless for ordinary folk unless you are the rogue states of the U$ofA & israel. Gaddafi was right yet again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nVBTTTsCA&t=1305s Our UN I hope would have real teeth but would those teeth be needed if the psychos are removed from decision-making on our behalf? We all might actually find that sharing the world's wealth out is a wonderful fun thing provided we respect our flora & fauna neighbours & don't strip the earth bare in our festival of life!

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The public commons are being controlled by the same psycopaths

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quite right, libya was propserous not because of a top down person like gaddafi, but because of libya's democracy. NATO bombed libya because they hated the freedoms of true democracy.

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Absolutely! Gaddafi was really just a figurehead. He guided his beloved Libyans to a Full Participatory Democracy that had no toxic impurities like 'representatives' or 'party politics' to get in the way of the freedoms of democracy as you mention!

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if only he had not given away his wmds. Nobody was even asking him to at the time. It was like his fate had been sealed by his destiny soul.

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I'm not a fan of WMDs so I can applaud him for that. He probably put it to the people first for their opinion. Certainly in the case of N Korea it does seem that WMDs give some sort of immunity to the empire's disgusting advances.

Bearing in mind Libya was completely outclassed in the WMD department both in weaponry and the means to deliver, who do you think he should have struck back at? Not only is NATO spread out fairly widely but attacking a NATO member would have given the gang a planet-sized billboard to forever loudly justify the radioactive pulverising of Libya.

We're only on this earth for a [short] time. I'm grateful to Gaddafi for all the socialist works he has done and enabled.

If he was with us today, his voice would undoubtedly have been one of the most passionate raised against the horrific pounding of Gaza by the barbarians/usual suspects. The Arab 'leaders' would have melted down with the fire in his belly aimed at them and the masses would surely have listened to him with major revolutions toppling Zionist-friendly regimes in the manner of falling dominoes to make the barbarians think again even with Biden looking on. It's our turn now & every bit helps. The burning fire in my belly wants to dissolve the war-creating barbarian state, not the people, but the state. Neturei Karta have it totally right. https://www.nkusa.org/

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In a modern technological society that is deeply interconnected electronically we should have national referendums on the most important issues. We could then turn the nation's Capitol building into a museum, much like the Smithsonian or the Air and Space museum, but as a museum for white male privilege. Exhibit themes could be Money=Power; Going Along To Get Along in Congress: Bi-Partisanship In The Swamp; Even (Minority) Politicians Get the Blues (or Reds); Running For Office? Better Check The Funding!; AIPAC On The Line? Put My Constituent On Hold; Playing The Media Circuit: Tips and Tricks For Effective Spin; Cultivate Your Base/ Satisfy Your Donors: Fund Raising a where It Counts; When All Else Fails, Embrace The Flag!; The Essential Geography: K Street, Langley, Arlington and Bourbon Steak.

These are just some examples of the exhibits in the Capitol building that would show the touring public what politics was like at the beginning of the 21st century in an outmoded and deeply corrupt system that almost lead to fascism and national decline. The gift shop could have everything from plush toy Lindsay Graham's and Nancy Pelosi's to interactive video and board games (the old standard Monopoly, of course), refrigerator magnets, posters and video outtakes and bloopers from C-Span. All proceeds to go to support low-income housing and scholarships.

Just an idea for how to repurpose the Capitol, since it's just sitting there, doing nothing worthwhile.

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LOVE IT!

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Extinction Rebellion (UK) is also a good model of organized groups. It’s a great manifesto. One thing you’ve left out is the promotion of ALL arts, culture and leisure. I.e. fun as an INTEGRAL supported and necessarily important part of minimally organized groups. However, my fav is the 12 traditions of AA...

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The Arts! As someone who relies heavily on music therapy to defend myself against the ravages of COPD I can attest to the importance of the arts in more ways than one. When the opportunity arises I'm actually pushing for a Leisure State since we now have the technology to free us from drudgery & repetitive work. I've also advocated monetary reform for over 40 years. What we need to realise is that the robots that the boffins have created are *OUR* machines. We, or rather our ancestors, toiled in the fields to feed the boffins. We worked hard in the textile mills to clothe them. We laboured to house them, etc., etc., etc. The technology has also been developed out of our Common Cultural Inheritance. The ancestors wanted us to have a better life than they did. Now these machines have been quietly stolen from us. As we lose our jobs we lose our spending power (wages, salaries) but the machines shovel out the goods at the double, 24/7, but no-one has the money to buy them!! Such is the absurd quandary the thieving capitalists have to ponder. The money reformist approach is to say, "Share out the wages of the machines!". Then we can all respectfully enjoy this beautiful world without let or hindrance to satisfactorily fulfil our fundamental needs as we progress upwards on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs model. Should anyone wish to spend their time on creative endeavours they would have the opportunity to create better pottery for example, better than everyday robot made stuff. Those pieces of pottery would be created with love, would they not? The items could be taken to market for extra spending power for the artist involved. Win! Win! https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html It's even win/win for the banksters if they remove their greed blinkers but that's probably asking too much of those Zionists.

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Painting is my refuge from the world ( as was my mare before she passed away.)

When I paint, I’m totally insulated.

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Oh that more of the population would have the ability to utilize reason, logic and common sense to come to a critically thought out understanding as you just put forth! Even the "Christians" who never read their bible with the effort to understand it on their own would have to realize that the system of "Judges" in the old testament is much like your description. And what did they do? Well they said "We want a king like the other nations!" and what did Samuel tell them...a King will ENSLAVE YOU and make you run in front of his chariots. And what did the people do? DEMANDED a "King" like a bunch of brain dead idiots.

Just look at the way Switzerland is run. VERY close to your description. It is not run top down, it is run bottom up. One thing we need to do in the USA and any where else in the world where you have access to small arms...is START local militia groups so that there is teeth behind your organizing. In the USA many hawk the wonders of the 2nd amendment but overlook the first 13 words as if they don't exist.

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But we let them b c if our FEAR, GREED AND HATRED. There are more of us than them, so what’s stopping them ?nothing but us us us us.

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Look into the work of the late Dr Gene Sharp. He was a Harvard professor who spent his life studying nonviolent civil disobedience. He wrote From Dictatorship to Democracy and there's a documentary about him called How to Start a Revolution. You can buy a copy of it on eBay or from the Einstein Institution in Boston MA.

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you got it! Lol

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You may like to read this. It's a study done by the Department of Criminal and Investigative Psychology UNIFEDER; author G. Perrota. Title: The Psychopathological Profile of the Biblical God Called Yhwh (Yahweh): A Psychological Investigation Into the Behaviour of The Judaic-Christian God Described in The Biblical Old Testament.

https://auctoresonline.org/article/the-psychopathological-profile-of-the-biblical-god-called-yhwh-yahweh-a-psychological-investigation-into-the-behaviour-of-the-judaic-christian-god-described-in-the-biblical-old-testament

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Yes, absolutely. Problem for us is how to take back control from these psychopathic control parasites before it's too late for humanity. That's what it boils down to for me, anyway; how (if) we can stop them.

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Amen, Caitlin. Cognitive dissonance rules our world and it's high time we helped people take the blinders off. War and peace matters infinitely more than whatever it is we think we're worried about.

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Both the US and Israel are now pariah states.

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They have been for many years, decades. Paraphrasing OBL's recently revived letter, they are nations without principles or manners. What they demand from others is not what they practice.

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Before anybody barely knew OBL’s name, he knew what the West was, and what it would do, and the west -Europeans and Americans -did every thing exactly as he said.

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Yes, and I wonder how much of that knowledge came from his experience as the CIA asset known as Timothy Osman?

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Pariah states run by the international bankster cartels. They use the USA as their trained attack dog. It's so sad that so many CHRISTIANS don't see it and realize what is going on. The old adage "ignorance is bliss" should more rightly be said IGNORANCE IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

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As Israel becomes ever more monstrous it becomes obvious that the world has created a monster. The world should take responsibility for reigning it in. Israel's nation licence needs to be revoked, and its geographic territory subjected to humane government. To accomplish that we'd first need to affirm the authority of the UN to act on the world's behalf, and then to make sure the smartest people in it were involved in attempting the solution. Flight of fancy..

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Not "the World". The Oligarchy.

"The World" includes people who don't even know where Israel is as the Oligarchy steals the wealth of their nations.

If you want Israel to stop, you have to destroy the American Oligarchy. The UN isn't going to participate in that.

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Actually the international bankster cartel is what needs destroying. It runs the world and uses the USA as it's trained attack dog.

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What is the difference between the Oligarchy and the "international bankster cartel"?

Almost Nothing.

But the Oligarchy consists of people who have their photos in the Forbes 400. They are not some amorphous secret hidden cadre.

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The Bankster cartel is the head of they hydra. People like Bozos and Gates are their underlings. The banksters rule by having total control over the fiat monetary systems of the world. There IS a REASON "They" Don't Listen to US Anymore... https://courageouslionjusmeumtuebor.substack.com/p/there-is-a-reason-they-dont-listen

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Bezos and Gates aren't "underlings". You're insistence that the "secret cabal" exists just makes the Oligarchy less responsible for their actions as if they have no choice but to follow the instructions of that cabal. You've eliminated names so there's no one to hold responsible.

The reason they don't listen to us is they never have. Aaron Good's book American Exception explains it. Or you can watch his youTube series. He names names over and over in "The empire and the deep state series". https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hNArLl765PXe8tsTKmOciGL

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So .25% of the world population runs it??

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I like your ideas but after watching the speech Muammar Gaddafi gave at the UN about how it is run as I write...GOOD LUCK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nVBTTTsCA

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Yes, it's beyond sad about the UN. I believe it's largely financed by the US, but to them it's merely a sometimes useful instrument - to which they pay little respect. And Australia falls in with the US in that disrespect - which often amounts to an 'up yours' to decency. I liked a Caitlin remark from a while ago: "Australia is not a country, it's a US base with marsupials'.

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The current Australian Govt is a travesty and a treasonous betrayal of the Australian people ( voters ). Albenese's log cabin to white house schtick is just that. Bullshit!

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I recall there was a time when the U$ofA did not even pay its UN dues for a long time.

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I believe that we still don't.

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Ok ONE MORE:People people, people! I love your ideas I love your intellect. I love your commitment. I love your passion I love your knowledge I love your lack of hypocrisy. after all is said and done what needs to happen is a truth and reconciliation commission. The spiritual component the component of forgiveness the component of a power greater than the egos of all humans that are involved. it’s just- it’s got to be that way! The spirit of altruism, the spirit of compassion the spirit of empathy, the Holy Spirit, even just practicality. If you must! whatever you wanna call it it’s got to be there. Done. Carry on! lovers of truth love and understanding!❤️

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I think that the biggest difference between gen-z and boomers and what are left of their parents is 75 years of the greatest propaganda machine in the history of the world. By the time gen-z reached the age of starting to pay attention, they had alternative news sources that they didn’t have to spend ridiculous amounts of time trying to find, and they spend far less time listening to the narrative managers who have convinced so many who have been bombarded their entire lives with garbage that they have been, with many exceptions, convinced that excrement really is Shinola. As Chomsky has often said, in this and other contexts, the achievements of the propaganda machine are truly spectacular. And we’re not talking here about stupid people, or self-serving cynics who benefit from an affected delusion. These are bright, high-functioning, successful adults. I’m a boomer. Somehow, I saw the excrement and correctly identified it as such decades ago. I ain’t no smarter than the majority of my demographic cohort who don’t see it. If I had any idea as to why, I would share it. I don’t have a clue, except for the the generally successful narrative management that, to me, would be laughable were what it allows to happen not so barbaric.

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You have empathy, friend.

That’s the difference.

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@ both Andrew Thomas & gypsy33 👍

Ofttimes one is compelled to er on the side of informed truth; and in doing so, always take thoughtful care not to recklessly bestow either sympathy or empathy upon those that practice neither by word or deed 😉. Even a kind offer of understanding or help is often viewed as a threat by the willfully uninformed.

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My support of Israel was because of Leon Uris books and the movie about the Nuremberg trials. This cemented the "collective guilt" we all shared because the US stood by and did nothing to prevent the Holocaust. The cry of anti-Semitism was very persuasive decades ago.

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I believe there was a Holocaust.

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There were gas chambers and crematoriums. The other stories may be true for a couple of instances but probably not an "industrial" use.

Six Million, One Million either way, just as horrid.

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Interesting original reporting in acute

observation together. You're really pretty amazing

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I have been pro Palestinian for 20 years, ever since I took the time to familiarize myself with facts surrounding Israel's creation in 1947. I realized that Israel was nothing more that a British land grab and the creation of a nasty insurgency and a munitions dump in the Middle East. I am 74, raised Lutheran. I have no excuse for not glomming on the obscene reality of Israel sooner.

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This slaughter has nothing to do with Britain. Israel is not a British state, it is a Jewish state.

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So when the British ruled the area back before 1948 and the Balfour Declaration basically created the "Jewish" state, the British had nothing to do with it? And since that date there has been many Palestinians murdered BECAUSE of that declaration, Britain had nothing to do with it? Go read some history. You are coming across as an imbecile all over this thread.

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British political class supports the slaughter by thought, word, and deed. The British political class is COMPLICIT with the slaughter.

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Please read Leon Uris's book Zion. He makes it clear that the British, who controlled all of North Africa after WWII, promised the Jewish people that they would have land in the Middle East, and at the same time they promised the Arabs that they wouldn't give away any of their land.

They aren't called Perfidious Albion for nothing.

You are exposing your ignorance of Middle Eastern history.

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@ John Pretty 🥳

WTF are you doing commenting regarding a topic that you clearly know very little, if anything at all? You give "Pretty" a bad👎name!

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You're just another Boomer who is making this situation all about you and your clean conscience, despite spending a lifetime doing nothing against the monsters of Zionism and Imperialism. Have you gone to the streets to protest the Zionist genocide of unarmed civilians, journalists, and doctors? Or have you spent that time loudly and repeatedly protesting your personal innocence to the current atrocity?

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Everyone who opposes Child Abuse should be on the "Cease-Fire" side of things, whether or not you're an Israel booster. Israel's turning, or has already, turned into Moloch, the ancient god of child sacrifice (if I'm not mixing up my mythology). Also: Palestinians are "Semites," something left out of MSM reporting; therefore, Israel's indiscriminate--and criminal--bombing of Gaza is by definition "anti-semitic."

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Add ritualised circumcision* of 8 day old babies without any form of pain relief whatsoever into Child Abuse that MUST be challenged by the sane of this world.

* Genital mutilation leading to Cluster B personality disorders that unhinged elders can and do take enormous advantage of. They're like the ringleaders of football hooliganism but far far worse. Witness today's terrible manifestation of all this in Gaza while the Zionist psychos watch & happily cheer it on.

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Do they still do that?

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Yes, they still do that. And UNFORTUNATELY many "Christians" do it also, but at least use localized anesthesia.

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Morality, not ethnicity has been the issue since the first recorded expulsion of a Jewish community in 587 BC.

Morality why 'Jews and Gypsies' were considered undesirable.

Gypsies were a portable nuisance, but Jewish usury and sharp practices bled communities and countries white after several generations.

Most Westerners are unaware of how much our lives already resemble Gazans'. Spied on 24x7 by corrupt, violent governments we distrust, stripped of our wealth by usury and sharp practices, threatened by increasingly violent police, and censored unmercifully. We're penned up.

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'..the first recorded expulsion of a Jewish community in 587 BC." I've often pondered this question and I have to ask, expelled from where and by who? Then I might think...Why?

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I don't know what to do with my seething red hot anger (hatred?) of Israel. Of course, US has committed genocide and assassinations since its inception....slaughtering millions. The psychotic sociopaths win in the end. What are we to do?

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Revolution, Sage. Revolution.

And make sure you’re sufficiently armed.

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Too late for Gaza. Organise! Village meetings! Grow community! Reach out to other village meetings with today's technologies! Stop the psychos from their next moves after Gaza. They want greater israel after which we're all sunk as there would immediately be huge U$/Zionist bases installed at crucial points such as the Suez Canal, the Red Sea, the Mediterranean Sea and the Arabian Sea to implement the final Zionist agenda upon the world. Oh, and there's all that oil & gas as well as controlling the trade corridors! Naughty China is bad for spoiling that Zionist wet dream with their Belt and Road Initiative!!

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START CITIZEN MILITIA groups. In the USA they rave about the wonders of the 2nd amendment and ignore the first 13 words. And it's the only place in the bill of rights the word NECESSARY is used and it's only used TWICE in the whole of the Constitution. So, I would imagine that a WELL REGULATED MILITIA just MIGHT be NECESSARY to the SECURITY of a FREE state. Kind of like the way it's been in Switzerland for hundreds of years. They are so well and organized that NO ONE has ever invaded and taken over.

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Yup, it's hatred, "congratulations."

Hating bad people doesn't make you a better person you know. It really doesn't. And it doesn't make the world a better place.

A lack of hatred does not equal approval.

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Of course you should LOVE bad people to death and write disparaging remarks to them when they use words like LOTS instead of ALL. You're moral compass is a bit off from center. Hating someone who rapes your wife or murders you child is NOT a bad thing. As a matter of fact, that book you read and claim to follow says this in it...Psalm 139:22-23 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

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True here in the UK too. The march I was on had a massive proportion of youth. These kids don't read the Daily Mail, or watch the BBC news. They are essentially sceptical of anything they hear or see from politicians. And the cracks are widening in the credibility of official discourse.

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The sad fact is that nationalism and patriotism (same beasts really) once the national and internationals influences come to bear on us sad masses we become part of the problem. A long time ago I was young in England and the RAF were bombing Germany each night with many hundreds of bombers sweeping over the English Channel unopposed and dropping bombs in what they called a carpet pattern onto German working class areas where the houses were most tightly packed and finally hundreds of thousands of German civilians were killed or badly injured.This wasn't 'collateral' damage but a deliberate policy worked out by the chief of the air force and the prime minster Churchill to break the German fighting spirit. The American's were doing the same on similar targets in Japan and finally when the Japanese were defeated dropped two nuclear weapons on cities of no strategic significance. So while what the Zionists are doing to Gaza is shameful murder they do have good precedents (or rather wickedly bad precedents) to follow. War is indeed murder under another name.

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Nazis and the bombing of Germany are being deliberately entered into the conversation. Firstly Israelis call Palestinians nazis because they allegedly want to kill Jews and deserve what the allies did to Germany. Secondly WW2 is introduced by the likes of Piers Morgan to invoke feelings of fighting for democracy; even though people are being bombed and its terrible; it's the right thing to do.

Big difference is that if anyone are nazis it's the Israelis and wars are between nation states. The Germans weren't part of Britain under supremacist occupation. A better analogy would be if Britain bombed Ulster in retaliation for main land IRA attacks.

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I'm sorry, no. I am tired of this sort of repulsive Hitler apologia.

It's not wrong to be respectful of your nationality. Nor is it racist. The only people I "hate" are conceited liberals.

Nobody condoned the bombing of Dresden. Harris who ordered the bombing was a figure of shame for Britain for decades afterwards and with good reason.

Many British soldiers died in that war. My grandfather (who rarely ever talked about his wartime experiences) once said that he had lost so many friends in the fighting that had it not been for my grandmother and his son (my father) he would have continued walking to Berlin and never returned.

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".....Now all the media obfuscation in the world is not enough to pull the wool over fresh eyes that are ready to see." Fuck I hope you're right Caitlin.

I came of age in the late '60s, I'm now in my '70s and I still have have Country Joe at Woodstock - also have Hendrix doing Star Spangled Banner. Every time I watch that stuff, I think 'What the fuck happened to us?' And I'm bought to tears.

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You described my sentiments exactly, Dave.

“The Feels Like I’m Fixin’ to Die Rag”.

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Anyone who is of the mentality that killing innocent people that had nothing to do with the aggression exhibited on October 7th has a morality problem. Seems like LOTS of "Christians" in the USA have a MAJOR morality problem. Maybe they should read their bibles a little closer instead of listening to the likes of John Hagee. You don't kill 400 innocent people to get to one bad guy. Unless you're a psychopathic control freak parasite. Which seems to be the problem. Too many of them are running around acting like they are the virtuous ones.

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Not all "Christians" support the state of Israel.

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That's what LOTS means. I didn't say that all Christians support Israel. As a matter of fact, I have a hard time believing that a TRUE Christian that is a follower of the Christ and had taken his words to heart would support the bastard state of Israel EVER. Check this out. It was released in 1991 by Don Francisco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPHEXuPFPio It is happening in real time as we speak. Place like Substack, Rumble, Odyssey are causing it to spread like a wild fire of FREEDOM. The "powers that be" hate what is happening. It scares the holy shit out of them. One of his most biblical of all songs is "I Don't Care Where You've Been Sleeping" I actually did a cover of it back in the early Two Thousands...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO3Wc0X6tY

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