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Diana van Eyk's avatar

I am so sick of being lied to.

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Susan T's avatar

me too

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Susan T's avatar

And I am also sick of hearing people whine about how threatened Jews feel about people protesting near their institutions when they entertain someone from the IDF or are trying to sell of Palestine and the West Bank because those people outside are protesting GENOCIDE

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Susan. A bit of history

Not long before the British removed themselves of the responsibility of Jewish resettlement after WWII, they gave Palestinian land to the victims of Hitler’s failed conquests. Not long afterwards, the newly resettled Jews started to kill off those same British. The British left.

They then started their well organised Kibbutz programs and later on came the "Settlements" The brainwashing began in earnest, while the world, with a level of sympathy for the victims of the failed exploits of Adolph Hitler, saw this as a form of agricultural, educational and recovery process, which it also was. From all over the world, people came to partake of this development exercise.

The outcome however was a level of arrogance unknown before, the promotion of "God's Chosen People" as their motto and their self-styled exceptionalism as their standard.

Settlements became enclaves of Israeli sovereignty that fragmented the occupied West Bank and any future Palestinian state would look like a series of tiny, unconnected South Africa’s former Bantustans, or black-only townships, a fact that the world found out about prior to South Africa’s rise out of apartheid.

The United Nations has condemned them through multiple resolutions and votes. In 2016, a United Nations Security Council resolution said settlements had “no legal validity”. But the US, Israel’s closest ally, has provided diplomatic cover over the years. Washington has consistently used its Veto power at the UN to protect Israel from diplomatic censure, well known to all.

Such conditioning must have prepared them well for their ability to kill so easily, to support for decades the Israeli policies of allowing settlers from around the world to murder, steal homes, ruin Palestinian crops and harass Palestinian women and children at will, thousands of children held in jails today. All approved and encouraged by all Israeli governments, one after the other. In fact encouraged by all Israelis.

The Palestinians have had to tolerate these actions since 1948 with no assistance from the UN, the US Veto being the tool used by the Jews to achieve their aims, even again in this current month.

So that practice became the norm. Without any organisation seeing or assisting Palestine as a threatened population, the killing went on until before October of last year, 80% of their land ownership for occupation had been stolen by Israel, a fact well known by all the Christian, White, Anglo countries who did nothing to end the crimes. Now we have GENOCIDE with total American connivance.

Again, still no action from the UN. An on-going 70 years of undeserved abuse of the Palestinian people, assisted yet again by the US Veto, an undemocratic anachronistic procedure.

By this time, the cunning nature of the Zionists, having revelled in their successes in Palestine and the increasing influence in other European countries, became more adventurous and aimed for the control of the US government, which they now have, unquestionably, known by all. The means by which this happened was by using the well honed practices that had served them so well in other locations, of bribery and corruption, capitalising on using the glaring weaknesses in the US system to eventually own over 80% of the candidates running for office. This is now the norm, electoral funding, soon under way again in November, the end result being a foregone conclusion, but one that will once again contribute to the further removing of the US as a world power.

Until that changes, wars and hegemonic ambitions by the now accepted Jewish (controlled)/ America as it has now become, will continue, with a very small minority of the population, the abusers now known as Neocons, AIPAC members, well entrenched “consultants”, public servants, etc., being allowed to run rampant in a country that until well after the end of WWII was a spectacular success, respected by all and deserving of admiration. The eras of Eisenhower and until the death of JFK.

No more. Sliding downhill, day by day. A Trump or a Biden just accelerating the process.

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Susan T's avatar

I was specifically thinking about zionist Jews who live in North America and who scream anti semitism every time there is a protest, especially one near a synagogue or other institution where they have invited people from Israel to sell land or talk about what is happening in Israel and Gaza right now. I have an MP who is of that mindset. I know many many Jews who oppose what is happening in Gaza. But there are others who have become inundated with zionist thought and who refuse to see that the State of Israel is committing genocide. I was not intending for my remark to be anti-Jewish, but anti the people who try to turn it around to make anyone opposing that genocide an anti semite. I am tired of anybody, Jewish or otherwise, whining about how all this is scary for Jews. It is a lot more scary for people who live in Gaza and it is also scary for anyone who lives in this world considering the damage that is happening to the environment and the potential for escalation into a nuclear conflict.

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Just sayn's avatar

The views of SD Christy Noem shown in this Article should be abominations to any freedom loving person. To think she wants to be the VP.

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4510/What-Do-Justin-Trudeau-And-Kristi-Noem-Have-In-Common-They-Both-Want-To-Put-You-In-Jail-For-Having-Unpopular-Opinions.aspx

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Megan Baker's avatar

Neo cons? The worst offenders are the neoliberals! Schumer, Pelosi, Wasserman-Schwartz, Biden, etc.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Note how the neocons seamlessly shifted their allegiances to Team D just as soon as it became apparent that Team D would give them the wars and empire that they so crave.

Didn't even miss a beat.

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Fran's avatar

Interesting how Israeli's encourage others to see them as the victim rather then the perpetrator which they so often are, and continue to play on the past, the Holocaust, without seeing how they are creating one of their own.

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Fran's avatar

Alaa’s sad Mother’s Day after Israel’s war on Gaza killed her children

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/3/21/alaas-sad-mothers-day-after-israels-war-on-gaza-killed-her-children

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Megan Baker's avatar

Even greater than the death and destruction being wrought is the grief and trauma that will stalk the survivors forever. The dead, I’m sorry to say, are often the lucky ones. Any sense one tries to make of this nightmare is bound to fail.

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Fran's avatar

You're right. So much loss. I posted a link to a story I read today about a young mother of 4 children and all were shot dead. Their uncle found their rotting bodies left behind by Israeli soldiers. The world has to stop looking at her as victim which is the game she plays, but as a perpetrator, and one that may perpetrate a genocide.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

Right? They’re the worst cowards of humanity. The biggest whiners. The biggest hypocrites. The worst child-slaughtered. The most bloodthirsty. The biggest racists.

They gotta go.

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Susan T's avatar

I don't know who you are referring to, but I mean people here in North America who are not being bombed or starved. I mean anyone who blibbers on about the pro Palestinian protests being anti semitic and threatening to anyone Jewish. The protests are not threatening to all Jews. Many Jews also are in those protests.

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George Cornell's avatar

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/jared-kushner-israel-gaza-waterfront-property

The hideous Jared Kushner is already rubbing his greedmitts together over the prospect of Gazan waterfront property becoming available.

These people are beyond sickening.

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SW's avatar

The only wealth the Palestians had was their land. From the very beginning, no matter the excuse, all the creation of the state of Israel ever was or is, is a land grab and Jared Kushner confirmed what we already knew. Greed has been the driving force and a ruthless determination to do whatever it takes is on full display. And the people most blind to it are the Israelis themselves.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

Yup. He’s a poster child for these dead-eyes evil fucks. Look at his eyes, seriously. Always dead. That’s human evil. I’ve seen it first hand.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Most people of influence and authority exhibit characteristics indistinguishable from those of a sociopath.

This is because sociopaths are the people who most want that influence and authority and will do anything to get it.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Need more convincing about who are the depraved amoral scumbags here? Go Grayzone and watch Jeremy Loffredo's interviews with the Israeli aid blockers. Listen carefully to the racist vitriol these pieces of garbage spew and tell me they deserve to breath the same air as the burned children dying on the floors of Gazan hospitals. There's no remaining excuse for a society that cultivates such a level of brutality, of pure sociopathy. Right to exist? Really? Stuff the old testament where it belongs with the rack and other relics inappropriate for life beyond Medieval torture chambers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqRzfb2oMaM

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Megan Baker's avatar

I just saw it this evening. I knew these people were barbarians but I wasn’t prepared for what I saw. The people voting for and rationalizing this whole obscene tableaux have to tie themselves absolutely in knots to justify it. The people in the world I would least like to have as neighbors are the Israelis and, after that, the Congress critters and lobbyists who coddle and fund these psychopaths.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

Absolutely true. They’ve gotta go. Humanity cannot tolerate this kind of sociopathic genocidal streak in our population.

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Fran's avatar

Yep, and I basically had the same take on it as you. They are perpetual victimswhich they use to justify their multiple abuses of the Palestinians. Of course they don't know how sick that is which makes it worse. They have grown up on that bullshit, and justifies all the brutality they inflict on the Palestinians. Unfortunately too many believe it.

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Fran's avatar

Maybe I saw the same one today. Were they the ones coming as often as they could to block aid from getting into Gaza, and so proud of themselves, so self righteous about what they were doing? If so I referenced the same racism you are referring to. Israel always the victim, and she's held on to that since WW11, and used it to excuse her own many abuses toward the Palestinians.

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George Hazim's avatar

Israel’s care factor for the hostages is zero. They are simply an excuse to wage war - immaterial relevance other than a perverted sick justification for a path toward genocide..

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Phillip Badger's avatar

Exactly. They freakin shot and killed the three hostages that were released, even though they were waving white flags and obviously were t Palestinian. I’m sure they were murdered on purpose so they couldn’t talk. Zionists have no humanity’s no shame, no morals. They are as inhumanly evil as the death camp guards in WW2

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Whatistobedone's avatar

Yet another homerun 👍. I don't give a rat's ass about Israeli "feelings." Poor me, poor me, poor poor pitifull me. On and on and on. Breathtaking to me: the ARROGANCE. I can't begin to imagine I could ever think of myself as a "chosen person of God." WHO does that? Is Israel run amok with sociopaths? Yes...will do name calling of my own: SOCIOPATHS.

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Thor Swayze's avatar

Fact:

You can’t be called Anti - Semitic if the people you are talking about aren’t actually Semitic!

John’s Hopkin’s Genome Study Proves Jews ‘Interlopers’ in Palestine…no ‘Semitic Blood’ WHATSOEVER…

Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites.

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Megan Baker's avatar

Land you have to kill for isn’t yours. Land you have to die for is.

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Sam's avatar

Chosen person of gawd seems the same as the master race. And it’s insane that people think that gawd was a real estate agent in the past.

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Carl Herman's avatar

Thank you, Sister; your voice is STRONG. May God's Grace Be Upon You.

We use your articles on our vlog "Need to Know News" in our analyses of current events. Most recent of our 3x/week show: https://carlbherman.blogspot.com/2024/03/63-minute-video-need-to-know-news-lucid_20.html

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

https://youtube.com/shorts/D_4VzX_FLnw

https://youtu.be/LNcIb7YDmsI

https://youtube.com/shorts/kv0SvCLATzo

What you said here is SO TRUE. The American people want a ceasefire (at a minimum). But the US Congress is chock full of Genocide- and Apartheid- loving murderers, deeply complicit in every single Zionist Abomination war crime and crime against humanity. They're bought-and- paid-for, and for whatever reason have a greater loyalty to the Zionist settler-colony, than they do to the people that they're supposed to represent.

Bless the CodePink people, who not only spend hours each day trying to question, and reason with, and reach those psychopaths...but also can resist the urge to wring their necks, when confronted by that kind of pure evil.

The world needs another Nuremberg Tribunal for war crimes - this time focusing on those of the NATO Empire in Russia and Ukraine, and the Zionists in Occupied Palestine.

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DLehman's avatar

Thanks, Caitlin. Your work is important in the face of hasbara campaigns with flimsy talking points that, by now, everyone can see through. It’s a good day when you get under their skin and constantly make them squirm by exposing their lies. Every post and fact checking is a missile directed at their war propaganda. In the end, it becomes clear that the emperor has no clothes in spite of an entire war machine (weapons + media) behind them .. keep up the good fight!

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Fran's avatar

There was a video on Aljazeera about the many Israeli's who are out there several times a week blocking aid from getting into Gaza, and they said they were quite successful in doing so, and pleased with their accomplishment. They interviewed a couple of Israeli youth, late teens, early twenties, who professed great prejudice, and were unaware of doing so, like Palestinians should be dead. Israel is a sick society since their world is so black and white with no shades of grey, like we're good, and Palestinians are bad. They also come across as anything they do is acceptable no matter how barbaric it is. They kill children with ease, and fail to see their innocence, and their vulnerability. They can take another's land and feel justified because of the prejudicial way they have been taught to view these people. Their perspective is so narrow they don't even perceive this conflict based on it's history and those of the Palestinians whose land was taken from them. There is not going to be a cure anytime soon.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

They’re grotesquely evil inhumans. They’ve gotta go. They cannot be allowed to get away with this no matter what. “Israel” has to be removed from the map. They have proven over and over again that they cannot be trusted as a nation to NOT be a deadly threat to their neighbors and to humanity.

They’ve gotta go.

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Fran's avatar

How about a two state solution at this point, but I know that is never going to happen, unfortunately. This is going to have a real bad ending since they feel justified in all that they do and are seeing the genocide in Gaza not as a tragedy, but as an opportunity.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

As Scott Ritter says, it’s going to be a one-state solution, and the one state will NOT be Israel.

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Fran's avatar

Badger unfortunately I don't see a happy ending here. Lets just pray they don't wind up implementing a genocide, or pursue a more aggressive stance killing many more. I don't know how this ends.

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Megan Baker's avatar

The end of South African Apartheid may provide clues. These regimes can seem to be stable one day and on their death beds the next. We must intensify the protests and the boycott, for these will hasten the end of Israel.

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Fran's avatar

I don't know Megan. yesterday i posted an interview with a woman who was happy as could be because she was going to set up Kibbutzim over Palestinian territory and her justification of course was Oct 7, and not a thought to the devastation and the tens of thousands killed in retribution. This is not a society who see's the other as equal. They alone are superior and deserving and always the victim, and their expected payback is countless numbers of lives and their land too boot. Excuse my lack of optimism.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The difference is that the world condemned apartheid, while the United States aggressively bullies into silence any dissent on Israel.

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Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"The propagandists who’ve been manufacturing public consent for this mass atrocity are just as guilty as the ones dropping the bombs."

I've been saying this since day one--if you actively cover for genocide doers, enablers or supporters, you are guilty of the same war crimes. It's the same as if you hired a hit man to kill another person. You started the crime by wanting the death of another person, you hired an instrument (in this case a hit man) to do the killing for you, but you are still the instigator of the crime and guilty of the crime. Israel is the instigator and the hit man all in one and the US and its Western allies all supply the hit man with the ammo to do the job. (And possibly the US has supplied hit men as well, as I'm sure we'll discover more war crimes as the UN rapporteur's account is made public.)

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art guerrilla's avatar

slipped in an alternate universe

reality infinitely worse

somehow our priorities are skewed

and mass insanity has ensued

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logic and reason were our ideal

now its all how a snowflake may feel

orwellian doublespeak used

mere words and violence are confused

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diversity a code word to conform

the lunatic fringe became the norm

and tolerance means your submission

dare not question their supposition

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no greatest good for greatest number

but cater to who is most dumber

its least common denominator

that’s society’s dominator

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respect your choice without approving

and you can’t forbid our reproving

respect does not mean believe as you do

or even think what you say is true

.

respect does not mean forced to your will

or your directives we must fulfill

respect does mean we live and let live

that’s the most we can be asked to give

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stop demanding i respect your feels

there’s no one before which i will kneel

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The Worlds Most Dangerous Poet

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art guerrilla's avatar

"nice" ?

crap, i was going for "dangerous"...

8^)

thanks for your kind words...

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Thor Swayze's avatar

Fact:

You can’t be called Anti - Semitic if the people you are talking about aren’t actually Semitic!

John’s Hopkin’s Genome Study Proves Jews ‘Interlopers’ in Palestine…no ‘Semitic Blood’ WHATSOEVER…

Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

That’s a distraction. Also the word “genocide”. They want to argue about that.

One thing that cannot be argued: this is the textbook definition of “ethnic cleaning”.

That phrase is just as bad as “genocide.” Use it.

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BJ's avatar

Unless Hamas were to drop a nuclear weapon on Israel, no amount of PR and or propaganda will ever change the hatred of Israel because of what they have now done. Over 90% of the entire world stands with Palestine, almost every world leader has now admonished Israel (God Bless the PM of Ireland for saying and then doing what he did) the UN Security Council and General Assembly have called for a cease fire in addition to Israel completely ignoring the International Court of Justice. The only reason any Jew is standing in solidarity with Israel is because they are so ashamed of what Israel has done they need the excuse of 10-07 to justify it.

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DLehman's avatar

I don’t think they’re ashamed.. they’re just shameless..

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Phillip Badger's avatar

They will never be ashamed. But they must be punished and removed from the population so they can’t hurt any more innocent people. Over 14,000 children blown to buts by bombs, crushed under the rubble of the bombed buildings. Burned till their face bones are visible. The ugliest carnage and suffering ON CHILDREN. ON PURPOSE.

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Megan Baker's avatar

It did seem to become inevitable, at some point after this genocide, started, that Israel will cease to exist, and sooner rather than later, hopefully. Many of us will cheer its disappearance who didn’t feel strongly that way prior to 10/7. Ironic that Israel is doing to itself what decent people everywhere have been unable to for 75 years. Good riddance.

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George Cornell's avatar

Shameful and shameless. Now explain that to an ESL student.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Doesn't matter what the people think, as the people are easily manipulated, cowed and bullied.

What matters is what the rulers think, and the United States stands as Israel's thug to enforce policy.

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BJ's avatar

Feral . . . .

The shame Israel has now bestowed upon itself will never evaporate. This will go down in history as worse than the Holocaust which will now be perceived as being also deserving!

Israel brought and inflicted this solely upon itself. There were myriad ways to put an end to it but instead, they deliberately allowed it to escalate. As I've always wondered if it was actually intentional to wipe Israel off the map as it is also prime real-estate in the region.

This all boils down to the new shipping corridors and of course the gas fields off Gaza. The war in Ukraine is deliberately designed (why they are escalating it) to keep Russia bogged down to prevent it from moving on and into the Middle East. Keep in mind this happened one month prior to October 7th.

Biden unveils US-backed transport corridor to link India to EU via Mideast, Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-unveils-new-us-backed-transport-project-linking-india-to-eu-via-mideast-israel/

Unless there is a nuclear war (which I believe is imminent and how all of this is eventually going to end) nothing can un-ring this bell. The world has now seen for itself the USA was never worthy of it's glorified reputation and like Israel - has always been the scum of the earth, when it pertains to having absolutely no regard for human life and believing itself to being superior to the rest of the world. They have both now acquired the scorn of the entire world.

Russia and China along with the Middle East are about to become the worlds next super powers. No amount of anything can defend them - the USA military is at an all time low in addition to armament as well as NATO. No way in hell can the US - Israel and NATO defeat Russia China Iran and the middle east. That's what this is all about, in my personal opinion.

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Phillip Badger's avatar

They’re desperately trying to change the subject to divert from the 14,000 CHILDREN they’ve BUTCHERED. Keep reminding them keep bringing it up. If they complain, I tell them “kill a few more thousand children, you’ll feel better.”

These people are the most abjectly and grotesquely people who have ever walked the earth, and we must keep rubbing their noses in their own crimes.

They’ve murdered over 14,000 children.

Let’s send them to hell.

Do NOT let them change the subject.

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Erica Snowlake's avatar

“When facts and morality aren’t on their side.”

Bingo.

It sure doesn’t feel great to be on the receiving end of their misguided vitriol/hate, but, as you advise, don’t let it get to you.

Their apologia consists of sensationalist lies upon lies, the Art of the Smear. But it’s not going to work out for them, in fact, it has already failed.

We are going for a critical mass, accelerated, worldwide, 100th monkey learning curve, and I believe we are gaining…keep pressing forward.

Thanks very much, Caitlin, for sharing some of the clearest, most insightful and compassionate disseminations of truth, exposing the propaganda behind the Israeli entity’s heinous and unforgivable attempted genocide of our Palestinian brothers and sisters (nod to Dr. Cornel West). It will not stand.

Imagine Peace, Create Peace, Unity with All Peoples, Ceasefire Now, End the Occupation, Let Palestine Live, Heal, Nourish, Grow a secure future for their children. Carried in our hearts forward…

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