Most American Jews are chumps. They were fooled by October 7th, and now support "Israel" more than ever. Don't know if Israeli Jews are still fooled by that betrayal, but American Jews certainly are.
And if you don't know what I am talking about then you too are a chump.
It doesn't matter if Israeli Jews were fooled, or not. They support the genocide, either way. They know that the Hannibal Directive was activated and that the IDF killed many, the vast majority imo, of Israelis on that day. Yoav Gallant confirmed that The HD was ordered. The extraordinary devastation could only be the result of high-power arms, like hellfire missiles and tank fire. They don't gaf. Any excuse to kill, destroy, plunder, rape and steal.
Correct. Many people say it took hours for Israel's military to respond, that is a lie. When Al Qassam went towards the IDF military base set amongst the occupiers houses there they filmed it all, stupid they are not. By the time Al Qassam had not long been at the base the attack helicopters were there, firing on their own people, especially those attending the festival/ dance which a Palestinian couldn't have even known about because it's date had been altered at the last moment.
Tanks arrived later but not as long as the story told and started firing on the people's houses, the footage was captured on camera.
Besides anyone with an iota of sense would know a resistance fighter with only a hand held weapon that fired bullets couldn't have taken down houses or burnt people fleeing in their cars from the festival. As sense is not common, they prefer the false narrative instead.
And don’t forget the Egyptians personally called Netanyahu ten days prior to 10/7 to warn him of a major upcoming attack. The Israelis CHOSE TO IGNORE IT. This was reported in the times of Israel a few days after, hardly an antizionist publication!
They did indeed but even Al Qassam said the Israeli's could see them rehearsing, it was a well planned break out and not impossible like so many say. I am a person who has kept up with Palestine, West Bank and Gaza through better times as well as times like now. You could tell the Israeli's were building up for a massive attack as they increased daily excursions into Gaza, in that year up until the 7th, there had been more children killed in Gaza than any previous year. Something had to be done.
I think Netanyahu let the attack carry on so that he had an excuse for what they had already planned.
Absolutely. Zionism is the cause of all the troubles in the ME, all the acts against Israelis is brought about by zionism. In fact I think the plan is to actually continue these attacks on Jewish institutions because the more jews are killed, the less of them zionists will have to share israeli, greater israel, and eventually not have to share any of the world with jews at all.
Zionists have used jews to get their world domination start in israel, once they have rid the world of jews by having them believe they were chosen and every other religion must become their slaves - who the hell is going to sit back and say, 'Okay, on you go, we'll be your slaves, we'll bow down to you - I your dreams, you numbnuts.'
It's quite a beautiful plan when you take it apart. Jews get blamed for being so dumb as to believe that fairy tale. The world turns against them, again. And the fools double down, or the zionists do, making everyone angry at the supremacy attitude.
Wake up! We are all being taken for a ride because the zionistgot away with causing the Nazis to exterminate all those jews during WWII, and they are unrolling the other steps in their plan. Do not let them win, call each one of them out.
And remember, you cannot be a Christian AND a zionist, ever.
Zionism is just a new word for the same thing. The shapeshifters always invent new vocabulary. What we see today is western settler colonialism, theft of resources, genocide of native humans, etc. Nothing has changed in the past 500+ years. Germany is again at the forefront of the genocides. Nazism=Zionism=Exceptionalism=western "democracy". Evil never sleeps.
All humans with ancestry from outside sub-Saharan Africa are part Neanderthal - between 2 and 6%. Having existed for hundreds of thousands of years, Neanderthals (and other pre Homo sapiens hominids) all disappeared from any given region within 5000 of Homo sapiens entering it. Even where there is insufficient evidence of violence, we outcompeted them into extinction through technological advantage.
Given the difference in intellectual performance, these sexual relationships would very likely not be considered consensual today, even if there were elements of consent.
Essentially everyone other than 100% black people is the product of genocidal, bestial rape.
But we (the British) did do that everywhere else we went (eg Ireland, North America, Australia… never exactly tried it in India but it was never going to work in India)
We at various times said that the Zimbabweans didn’t build great Zimbabwe and that the Egyptians didn’t build the pyramids.
I agree but with reservations. The original impetus for the Zionist movement was many centuries of oppression and persecution experienced by the Jews of Christian Europe, culminating in the holocaust. Given that experience, it is quite understandable that European Jews would seek a home where they would not suffer under the heel of a hostile Christianity. Unfortunately, the home they chose was already occupied, and, as many Zionists saw it, those occupiers would have to be removed.
To your point, it’s true that Zionism has little, if anything, to do with Judaism as a religion, but it does relate to Jewishness as an ethnicity. In any case, there is no moral justification either in Jewish or non-Jewish ethics for the ethnic cleansing of any minority group.
An entrepreneur and corporate honcho, Greenblatt and the others in those pro-Israel orgs are basically business people raking in shekels from conflict. Conflict of both overt war and also of the theatrical friction between Israel and the US. It's perverse and disgusting. Lowbrow.
The man who attempted to bomb the Michigan synagogue was predictably and immediately labeled a terrorist. Contrast that with the deaths of hundreds of Lebanese civilians at the hands of Israel. Those will never be labeled terrorist attacks.
If that wasn’t false flag I’ll not only eat my cowgirl hats, but my six pair of cowgirl boots as well. Notice not one hair on one head of a Jew was touched?
Why would anyone who legitimately wanted to unlive people just run their vehicle into a doorway? 😂😂😂
FALSE FLAGS brought to you by the Rothschilds-Epstein Baal-Cult and the Greater Israel Project! Funded by American Goyim Cannon Fodder!
The Michigan synagogue-school was empty and the driver of the truck was killed. This SAME synagogue-school was used in an FBI active shooter-training weeks BEFORE this "attack."
I am Anti Rothschilds-Epstein Class and the Greater Israel Project. To be against the War with Iran, is to fight against the ROTHSCHILD-EPSTEIN PEDOE WAR PIGS- NEVER LET THEM REST.
I don’t think it’s a false flag because Ryan grim reported that the attackers family all died in Lebanon as a result of Israeli strikes. If I were that man I too would do terrorism in retribution! Who wouldn’t?!
The label "Terrorist" is a joke. Another tool in the kit used by Zionist Jews to demonize people who are FREEDOM FIGHTERS, fighting to stop the destruction and theft of their homelands and societies from Zionist controlled western governments. More of the same agenda to demonize innocent brown people.
Not just the zionists but the capitalists against anyone who doesn’t want to submit to capitalism.
Also the biggest terrorists in the world are the Americans an Israelis with probably a million body death count by now over the various wars started by them.
I see what you’re saying but what would you do if Israel killed your whole family? Work for Israel on behalf of a false flag attack?! That’s doubtful! This man’s anger and desire for retribution was genuine. I think it’s a disservice to his memory and that of his family to claim his retribution was the work of his enemy.
If that gentleman truly wanted to cause death/destruction: you don’t seriously think it’d be difficult to procure a firearm in the Detroit area, do you?
Difficult? I don’t know I’ve never tried getting a gun in Detroit or it’s surroundings. I will say that someone who just lost their whole family is not going to be thinking clearly or with much forethought or planning.
I would do the same thing that man allegedly did for the same exact reason. If israel killed my whole family I’d be seeking retribution and let’s be honest 90%+ of American Jews are proud zionists and it pains me to say this *as a jew* but they absolutely have it coming. It’s a shame but anti zionists like myself have warned our fellow Jews for decades now only to be accused of self hatred.
I would love your opinion on a program Due Dissidence. Two Jewish men who are pro Palestinian pre 1967 Palestine. Like Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate they speak about the evil history of faith and politics. Thank you. Please let me know my friend. I know what your thinking, yes I am your friend always.
Yes that's the two, Russell and Keaton. I agree with you I no longer think israel can exist. Yes they both fill in for Jimmy Dore. It's very hard to find reporting you can trust without having to fact check like Caitlin. I have a very good feeling Iran will bring peace to the world.
In the end it seems Palestine will be what Palestinians want it to be. I hoping for the Nation of Palestine for all people of Peace. People returning to their homes and farms would be something for the world to see. Every missile I see hit israel is that much closer to the Nation of Palestine : )
I’m not who you commented towards but I just wanted to mention that max blumenthal made a documentary recently about Iranian Jews just before the war started that’s worth a watch, it’s on YouTube
Antisemitism? Who cares? 80 years of continuing support for lies, propaganda, land theft, apartheid, corruption, murder, brutal occupation, war crimes and genocide against the Palestinian people. Reap what you sow. The pathetic cynical victimhood is a laughable joke.
i care about real antisemitism. I don't think it is moral to hate someone for being Jewish. But people are getting all mixed up these days because the Israelis themselves conflate their Zionist, Nazi behaviour with Judaism. Zionism and what is happening in Israel are not part of Judaism. What is happening in Israel is a murderous colonialism called Zionism.
I second what Susan just wrote. Every religion has its extremists, and extremist interpretations that lead to all sorts of horrific consequences - the multiple Christian Crusades for example, or the 6th century Totemism of the Huns and their persecution of Buddhists.
Sadly, people will lump the Zionists in with all those who practice Judaism - maybe even subconsciously.
You can be if you’re a crazy evangelical who wants to force Armageddon so Jesus returns as per prophecy. You know, like everyone who’s running america right now believes 🙁
My friend, I would love to know what you think of this former Zionist, Ultra Right Christian, Kasey Malone. I love her and found a wealth of info on a topic I knew little about. Thank you friend. Please let me know what you think. Most of her audience it seems are atheists who recently left churches and haters as we see here at the Nation of Caitlin : )
I have listened to her a little bit. I watched Israelism as well and I live in a very Jewish neighbourhood with way too many Zionists in it. It takes courage for people who have been brainwashed to be Zionists to really look at it and see how it is fascist, racist, colonialist and more. I am not young either, and I was raised to see communists as bad, people of colour as suspect and being rich as the ideal to strive for. Somehow, when I was very young, I knew that being overly concerned with making money was not my thing. I had a very capitalist grandmother who put money before anything. My family was also racist which I didn't like at all. They were anti semites on top of it all. It took me a while to learn about Zionism, but I don't see it as relating much to Judaism at all. Jewish Zionists use it as do Christian Zionists: to defend their fascist thinking. Zionism is similiar to Nazism in that some people are seen as supreme while others are worth nothing. That kind of thinking needs to disappear from our world somehow.
I haven't heard of Kasey, but I will check her out. It takes a former cult-member to speak to others still in a cult to help them see what's reality and what lies they've swallowed whole. Thanks for the tip.
As I replied above. Kasey Malone and your hair will stand on end. I had no idea what was happening in these closed communities. You will find her on YouTube.
Jews generally conflate Jewishness / Judaism with Zionism / Israel. Most synagogues, for example, display the Israeli flag in the front of the sanctuary. Can’t really blame the rest of the world for following suit.
We can hate whom we want. So long as it's not acted on. Why are we indicting people for having emotions? Jews made that up. Jews hate Muslims but Muslims are not such sooks that they have to come up with a term that chastises anyone outside their race for it. Zionists caused the Nazis to rise, they've been behind almost all the atrocities that happened to the world for the last century.
Zionist's have caused more problems for centuries in all Western lands, the only difference back then and recent times is Zionist, which they are, hadn't been used to separate them from other Jewish people.
I would love your opinion of Due Dissidence on YouTube and Kasey Malone. Two Jewish men who tell truth and a woman who was a former Zionist coming from the Far Right Christian Zionism. Thank you.
I know which is why I said recent times is Zionist and hadn't been used to separate them from other Jewish people. Prior to that it was Jews and Ashkenazi Jews, but still the same as Zionism.
It’s not Jews and ashkenazi Jews - ashkenazis are the Eastern Europeans (I am one of them). They were the first zionists as Zionism originated there.
There’s Sephardic (Spanish / Iberian peninsula), mizrahi (Mediterranean/North African), ethopian and then much smaller sects all over the world who are NOT of European origin.
Also a fun fact - the oldest Jewish presence in the US is the Sephardics who moved to the south (I want to say modern day New Orleans but don’t quote me) during the Spanish colonial period and their existence in the Americas predates the modern US. And going along with that fun fact, Spanish was spoken before English in what is the US today. But the MAGAts failed history class.
Yes, the great majority of Jewish people in Israel are Zionists. Have seen anywhere from85 to 90%. I guess those not identifying as Zionists have already left with the Iran war.
Don't forget there are a good number of Christian Zionists in America so it gets very confusing.
It’s hard to care about real antisemitism when the zionists act like pro male soccer players feigning injury for the refs so the opposing team gets carded - and I say that as an antizionist jew.
Now that some on the far right are turning on Israel (rightfully so) I worry they’ll go protocols of Zion on it rather than the leftist stance of being against Zionism but not against Judaism.
Just wanna remind everyone Judaism is 5700 years old and Zionism is 140 years old.
Jews are just another hate group - period. They've stated and documented their agenda to demonize Muslims and Arabs in Western society. It has worked and this is why the West is in a continuous war cycle in the Middle East. They are the most successful hate group of modern day humanity. The Mossad is instrumental in their effort to spread hate, destabilize, infiltrate and destroy Arab countries. What have the Arabs and Muslim done to the west other than live on "white peoples oil"?
I'm not the one confusing the two. Jews need to decide what they are. I'm saying they all support Israel/Zionism and therefore are complicit in a Genocide, yet they cry victim when called out. You need to learn to read.
I’m an antizionist jew and I’ve been screaming this at the Zionist Jews I know for 25 years now. They have zero reason to support Israel yet they tie their whole identity to it because of severe multi generational brainwashing.
I'd go a step further and say that I'm skeptical that the Israeli Zionist plutocrats are actually even Jewish. I think they are wearing Judaism like a skin suit so they can use real Jews as body shields.
I think they may have been born to Jewish parents, but they have become so power hungry, greedy for money and cruel that they no longer think about any values that may have to do with Judaism. Christians often use their religion in the same way to shield their greed and cruelty.
I listen to two Jewish journalist/podcasters for a viewpoint that I find extremely fair and questioning. Due Dissidence. Keaton and Russell are kind, loving and caring people with knowledge of the Jewish faith and the problems of Zionism. I also listen to Kasey Malone who is now an atheist brought up in Zionism and extreme ultra right Christian community. Living in my bubble I try to find others I trust with knowledge I could never live as with Caitlin. Can you imagine a Nation of people who speak truth are, kind,caring, and loving. Please let me know if you find these sources interesting. I respect your views. Of that goes for all those who read this. Peace, I'm old so imagine you see me giving the Peace sign : )
....soooo sick of the the "antisemitic" bull shit schtick. They can and do find SOME "reason" to label anything and anyone they fancy "guilty" of "antisemitism" .... I'm pretty much sick of that shit and now ignore them or plug my ears. Whaa whaa whaa. I CHOOSE to mourn the Palestinians.
Antisemitism is another thing zionists have stolen from Arab nations. It is impossible to be from a European country and be a Semite. One has to have been born within, and have a constant heritage, of Muslim countries, definitely not from Europe.
There is a major problem with blaming Zionists for attitudes toward Jews and the problem is reality and the facts.
Israel was conceived, founded and has functioned in terrorism and atrocities for more than a century and the reality is, most Jews have not only supported it from the start they have funded it. Yes, there were some Jews, a tiny minority who rejected Israel from the start but most did not. Yes, there are growing numbers of Jews who now reject Israel as a liability but again, MOST DO NOT.
There are many intelligent, educated decent people who are followers of Judaism and I know some of them, who have always supported Israel and sent their kids on camps to learn what? How to kill Goyim and how to hate Palestinians?
They have also supported the truly evil Birthright scheme, teaching their children that they have a right to Palestine even thought they and none of their ancestors for thousands of years have ever lived there.
Jews have played a major part along with Zionists and Israelis in infiltrating Governments, politics and media throughout the Western world, to compromise the rights of citizens and to push the Israeli agenda.
So, while we must applaud the minority of Jews with ethics and principles, we cannot let Jews in general or their religion off the hook because they have played a major part in the atrocity that is Israel and the countless atrocities it has committed. It is and always has been a terrorist State founded and functioning in supremacist hatred, violence, theft and destruction. And most Jews have not only allowed that to happen they have helped it to happen.
Until a majority of Jews categorically reject and condemn Israel and all it stands for, then they and their religion will be tainted by association.
Again, Zionism cannot exist without the pre-existing condition of Judaism. Christian Zionists are supporters of a Jewish political ideology for their insane Christian reasons.
you say nothing quite authoritatively. Christian Zionists support Zionism because they think it will bring on Armageddon and then the Rapture. They don't usually support any part of Judaism. They support Zionism because their Christian bible tells them to do so. At least that is their excuse. As far as I have heard, the bible says nothing of the sort.
No shit, Sherlock. They're hate-filled bigots, which is why I used the word "insane" to qualify it. And correct, the Bible makes no mention of the bullshit they preach. That is thanks to Israeli propagandizing televangelists and Americans being uncivilized. My point still stands. Stop talking to me.
Sorry, but the entire premise of the Israeli State of Hate is that the Jewish God gave them Palestine. The fact some deranged Christians believe the same thing is irrelevant.
That deranged Christian’s agree is not irrelevant. See how they are partnering with Israel to force Armageddon and bring back Christ? That’s why they’re at war with Iran. They’re gonna nuke Iran.
Sorry, please take a listen to Kasey Malone. She was a Christian Zionist. The details will shock you. Zionism is about the return of Jesus. Doesn't matter what religion is there now.
If a State claims to represent every Jew on earth and most Jews accept or even promote that claim then they are accountable for what that State does.
That is the reality. If most Jews had rejected that claim from the start they would not be stained with a century and more of terrorism and atrocities - rape, murder, torture, theft, destruction.
Germans were not allowed to say they did not know and get a free pass and in this modern age Israelis CANNOT claim they did not know and neither can their supporters. Ergo, because with modern technology there is no reason NOT TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE IN YOUR NAME, you are responsible equally for what is done in your name.
Let us not kid ourselves, if a Muslim state existed in the same way a Jewish state claims to exist and committed the same atrocities and most Muslims funded it and refused to condemn or reject it, no-one would be trying to shift the blame with words like conflate. Muslims and their religion would be held accountable and rightly so. Same for Jews.
The horrific slaughter of Israel’s foundation in 1947/48 and its 78 years of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery have been documented and anyone can find out the facts. I did 50 years ago.
Common sense says if a State or group claim to represent you and your religion you want to know EXACTLY what they do or plan to do in your name. The fact many, maybe most Jews failed to do that is not an excuse and does not let them off the hook.
The only reasonable excuse is brainwashing and I say that as a Jew who was subject to that brainwashing but because of neurodivergence it didn’t work on me.
I am not conflating, I am stating facts. If most Jews support and fund Zionism then they are joined at the hip and no need to conflate. And the reality is most Jews have always supported and funded Zionist Israel and MOST still do.
It's necessary to understand their religion in an anthropological sense, because it is not "like Christianity but with different costumes". The religion permeates every aspect of their self-concept, even to the point of affecting how their culture thinks about reality. (To give one example, "Jewish wisdom" is the source of the destabilizing idea that words can alter reality, as though words operate like mystic charms; they think their rabbis argue with god and change reality).
Their very beliefs in being "a race", in having been great kingz in Jerusalem, in having wandered the desert, in having any sort of continuous attachment to Palestine for thousands of years are ALL and SOLELY religious beliefs.
Their religion has layers and is rooted not just in the Talmud, but in worship of their rabbis, in Kabbalah, and in tribal superstition and a sort of ritual-generation engine. It is not all that similar to Christianity, Islam, or any of the religions that worship stable gods. It is more like Santeria, in certain ways, and it is also like modern day cults which worship specific "messiah" figures and which we easily recognize as cults. But we are not allowed to call this tiny religion a cult, right? Therefore, the sect, not cult, of Sabbateanism in the late 1600s fed Hasidism, which became the religious powerhouse of Zionism in the 1800s. From the get-go, a full 1/3 or more of the Zionists were Hasidics; Herzl adapted his programme to them because he knew that without them he would have nothing.
When some hasbara tries to claim that "some Reform and some Orthodox rabbis were against Zionism at some point” and therefore Zionism isn't Jewish, they are trying to mystify with shoddy references, and also trying to entangle the world in their internecine squabbles as to what a good Jew does. This is none of the world's concern.
In this article, which is one of a series, Frank doesn't go so far back as to delve into Sabbateanism, but she does point in that direction.
The follozving is the second of a series of articles tracing briefly the rise of
Modern Zionism
CHAPTER II There is no blank page between the history of Israel's past and that of the present in the Diiaspora. The persecutions of the first centuries continued into the later centuries, at times most barbarous, at others somewhat mitigated. With the last century open murder and rapine have ceased in the enlightened countries, but the demon Anti-semitism oppresses more to-day perhaps than formerly, since its methods are not open in attack. In spite of all, however. Israel miaintains steadfastly its old beliefs. Judaism has not conceded one iota of its principles, and the Jews remain today as distinct a people as in former years. The potent forces in Judaism, the idea of the restoration and the Messianic era, still continue ; only the Jews of today see more practical plans for their realization than formerly. The contrast, therefore, between the early conceptions of the Messianic era, and those developed during the centuries of itineracy which followed, with the consequent absorption of Occidental culture, is marked. The Israelites have always predisposed to fraternize with strangers, and they turned passionately toward the acquisition of Occidental culture. Is it not but natural, therefore, that the new Jewish culture should have questioned the Messianic conceptions developed in the earlier period of restlessness and mysticism? Throughout the first years of the Diaspora, the Israelites expected some miraculous intervention to put an end to the exile, and give the signal for the glorification of Israel. In the elarly opinion, the Messiah was to gather the children of Israel around him, march to Jerusalem, and there, after overcoming the hostile powers, restore the temple worship, and set up his own dominion. In their adversity and affliction they thought for the time only of the material blessings thiat might ensue, and forgot Israel's greater mission. Later, however, from fanciful and materialistic views exclusive and perhaps coarse notions of individual well-being, revenge and relief from an oppressing enemy, the hope took nobler expression in the idea of a stable, national government^ based on the principles of pure morality and lofty ideals, universal brotherhood and peace, of perfect righteousness and purest religion, God reigning in Zion, and spreading his radiance over the whole world.
Towtards the close of the 18th century, with the growing tendency toward toleration, and the influence of Moses Mendelssohn, Jewish thought was turned into new channels. The slumbering genius of the Jew was aroused and revived from its abjection. With the influence of Mendelssohn the Jewish race received its impetus for a rejuvenessence, threw off the lethargy which possessed it during the Dark Ages, and sprang from the narrow and isolated Ghettos into the world of culture. With the new Jewish culture came self-knowledge and self-respect, and gradually developed a broader race consciousness and correspondingly historical interest in Palestine. By the side of this influence came the strong sentiment of cosmopolitanism which swept over Europe the last part of the 18th century and first half of the 19th century. It was a natural reaction against the arbitrary grouping of nationalities which ignored all racial dififerences and was based simply upon political necessities. Then a counter-reaction set in. Cosmopolitan ideas were rejected as opposed to personal freedom, and there sprang- up the sordid sentiment of national exclusiveness. A desire for national solidarity made itself felt, and all dependent European nations took up the banner of national independence. The unification of Italy under Victor Emanuel, the uniting of the various Germaii principalities into a powerful nation under Bismark, the action of Switzerland, Hungary, and the various Balkan States, and the attempt of Ireland to free itself from British rule, were bound to react upon the Jews. In fact, many of them sympathized and aidded those who fought for this racial freedom. It is therefore but natural that a longing for racial freedom and communal life should have been aroused in their own hearts.
Under these influences there arose gradually, especially among* the younger generation, a sentiment in favor of Jewish national existence, which carried in its wake many of the brightest and most advanced Jews of the day. The historian Joseph Salvador as early as 1830 believed in the possibility that a congress of European powers might restore Palestine to the Jews, and the founders of the Alliance Israelite Universelle took an interest in colonizing work in Palestine. Rabbi Hirsch Kalischer of Thorn, Germiany, may be called the first practical Zionist. So early as 1836 Kalischer explained his position with regard to the repatriation of Palestine and the Messiah. He believed that the redemption would have its beginning in ta natural way, unaccompanied by miracles and wonders. There would first be required the desire of the Jews to settle in Palestine, and the assured protection of the nations in maintainine their independence. His book "Derishat Ziyyon" deals with the religious and theologiclal problems involved. He advocated the colonization of Palestine, the cultivation of land there, and the founding of an agricultural school and of a Jewish military guard. With the Jewish state and worship reestablished in Palestine, then, he believed, would God show his miracles and fulfill the promises of the Prophets. Kalischer travelled extensively in aid of these ideas ; caused the first colonization society to be established in Frankfort-on-the-Main in 1861 ; and exerted some influence in the colonizing work of Charles Netter and the founding of the agricultural school Mikweh Israel.
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The colonization of Palestine was persistently urged. Soon Kalischer succeeded in winning many of the more modern and more cultivated over to his belief. Noted among the men whom he interested was Moses Hess, the famous socialist of his time. In the year 1862 Hess wrote his book "Rome and Jerusalem," which, in truth, may be called one of the foundation works in Zionist literature. In this book Hess maintains that the Jewsh nationality cannot be destroyed, and that if emancipation be incompatible with Jewish nationality, the Jews should renounce all claims to emancipation. He saw in the Jewish colonization of Palestine the only solution of the Jewish problem. The idea of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine gained support among some of the most orthodox rabbis ; and in several of the cities societies were founded for the purpose of studying the Hebrew language. Two years after the appearance of Hess' "Rome and Jerusalem" Heinrich Graetz published an essay in which he declared that the Jewish nation was its own Messiah, and should bring about its own rejuvenescence and redemption without waiting for the coming of a single person or redeemer. His ideas proved too radical for many of the orthodox, and his book enorendered violent conflict. David B. Dob Baer Gordon, another leader in the movement, published in his paper "HaMiaiggid" a number of articles, the first of which appeared in 1871. on the colonization of Palestine as the basis for the future regeneration of Judiasm. In the course of time the various activities developed into a strong- movement and (assumed the name of Lovers of Zion. As a result of the recrudesence of national sentiment in Europe, and the liberation of Servia, Bulgaria and Roumania, the desire for liberty grew stronger with the Jews and toward the end of the seventies in the 19th century, the national movement gained still further ground.
Through the efforts of Henry Dunant larg-e Jewish organizations such as the Alliance Israelite Universelle and the Anglo-Jewish Association in London were persuaded to take an interest in the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, but no response was forthcoming. Laboring untiringly, Dunant succeeded in founding two societies for that purpose, the International Palestine Society, and in 1876 the Syrian and Palestine Colonization Society. Attempts were made by various statesmen and financiers to interest the Turkish Sultan for the colonization of Palestine by the Jews, pleading the advantage of such projects not only to the Jews themselves, but to the Ottoman and Occidental countries. Noted among these were the attempts of Sir Moses Montefiore, as early as 1840, and those of Lawrence Oliphant in 1879 and 1882. whose plans, however, failed to evoke any response. Writers continued in their plea for Palestine's repatriation b)' the Jews. In 1879 there appeared a series of articles by Ben Yehudah proposing the colonization of the Holv Land and the gradual centralization of the Jews there : and Isaac Rulf in 1883 wrote on the same lines. In Russia the national sentiment especially called forth an enthusiastic response, and literary expression was given to national hopes by such brilliant writers as Moses Lob Lilienblum, Perez Somlenskv, and Lev Osipovitch Levanda. With the large influx of Jews into the United States the Zionist movement soon found ex pression here, and soread quickly, lii the years 1882 and 1883 Emma Lazarus wrote a stirring series of ar-
ticles pleading for an independent Jewish nationality and a Jewish home in Palestine.
The general weve of national sentiment spreading over Europe conceded at last political right to the Jews, and with the close of the 19th century the majority of the enlightened nations had accorded them political emancipation. Tiiis, however, did not grant them social equality, not only were Jews excluded from all Christian society; but Christian contempt followed them in all their pursuits. At the very time when their own dormant national feeling had been awakened, and the Jewish masses became thrilled with fervoi for Israel's restoration, the monster Anti-semitism unsheathed its sword and followed them remorselessly. From 1881 it spread from eastern Europe over the whole continent, leaving no place untouched. In Germany it gained its strongest foothold, and in a short time Austriia, France, Russia and many of the southern provinces became strong centers of AntiSemitism. Refuge was at first taken in the hope that the culture and enlightenment of the time would surely give place to broader and more sympathetic treatment. But when Antisemitism received more or less co-operation from the governments, the hope was seen to be futile.
The majority, fortunately, continued in the hope that if redress was not obtainable, surely, in the near future, the g"ap between their civil and social position would be filled. However, a few Jews of Germany, and of the capital cities in most Europeian countries proposed a solution of the vexing problem troubling them. The magnificence of the court fascinated them, the brilliance and wit of the salon drew their Jewish genius almost in spite of them and in their despondency many of the wealthier and more educated decided upon assimiliation. Apostasy thereafter became a common occurrence. Many Jewish youths and maidens, fascinated by the novel experience of aflfiliation with the great, unknown Christian world, washed in
the waters of baptism, and subsequently passed forever from Judaism A writer of the time offers consolation, with the reflection that the converts "are but chips shaved off from an unwieldly colossus ; the colossus is only strengthened by their removal." Happily, time has proven him right. The conversion to Christianity, however, did not give these proselytes the social freedom and happiness they sought. The waters of baptism did not succeed in washing off their earmarks of Semitism : nor did assimilation with the Christian peoples about them succeed in disguising their Jewish identity. Anti-semitism did not restrict itself to pursuing the isolated Jews ; it followed the assimilated also. The distinctness and individuality which they themselves denied and sought to hide, were observed, and regarded as a menace to national solidarity. Jew-baiters persisted in the view that the Jews were an obstacle in the amalgamation of the races, and the formation of homogeneous unions.
The religious sensibilities of loyal Jews became outraged by the action of their more "enlightened" brethren. Salvation began to be looked for from other quarters. Another solution was proposed. It was determined to make Judaism acceptable to the Christians; and the "Berlin religion" with its many "reforms" resulted. Some of the most sacred traditions and hopes were stricken from the reform synagogue ritual. The Hebrew language was dispensed with in the services. All references to the Messiah and Israel's restoration were omitted from the prayer-book. Judaism was declared to be wholly religious, and in no way national. It was contended that Israel's redemption lay in renouncing the hope for renationalization in Palestine, and in accepting gratefully the citizenship of the nations among whom the Jews lived : otherwise, they would be suspected of disloyalty and their position made even more miserable and unbearable. It was a critical moment for Judaism. The pious were ready to forfeit their citizenship for the retention of their cherished hope ; the reformed unhes-
itatingly relinquished the glorious ideal for political and legal enfranchisement.
This new religion naturally became the horror of the pious, and made them all the more solicitous to keep aloof from external tendencies. They clung more tenaciously to their traditions. But with the emancipation of the Jews in Germiany in 1848. the reform movement acquired new strength and became more staple and permanent. The chasm between the old and the new became greater, and a reconciliation was out of the question. The separation which has continued to this day was inevitable; but it has brought much good as well as harm in its wake. The self-defence of the reformed Jews led the conservative to seek practical methods for defence. They began to consider their position in the world their prospects as individuals and as a community, and their historic nationality sprang to the foreground.
With the acquisition of Occidental culture, political enfranchisement, and the prominence attained by Jewish magnates and statesmen, redemption began to be looked for from practical sources. The vague notions of a Messiah and a Messianic age assumed a more definite shape. The confused hope of a Messianic period imperceptibly merged into a more natural course of deliverance from present misery, and fitted itself to present-day realities. The Jews became deeply conscious that they could be helped only by themselves; that if they could not help themselves, they could not be helped at all. They came to understand that their redemption would come about by voluntary activity on their own part, with the permission and assistance of non-Jewish rulers, as, in the time of Zerubabbel and Ezra the reestablishment of the Jewish commonwealth was effected in a perfectly natural way, and insured by the great power of the world. They saw their salvation in Zionism: — that great national movement of the Jews, and understood that if it could not protect and deliver them to-day, it would be the salvation of their children.
Jews do this to themselves continuing to support Zionism when there’s all the evidence in the world out there that Zionism is an evil perversion of Judaism.
Anti zionists like myself are extremely rare although the younger generations are becoming more aware.
I’m Jewish and your comment is right on the money. I refused birthright and I’m glad I did.
It’s not a free vacation, it’s a free indoctrination trip where the Israelis hope that the young impressionable American teens fall in love with their Israeli teenage counterparts and move to Israel and make babies for the IDF. The sex angle gets a wink and a nod “no parents around! Party with the locals!”
To give American Jews a little bit of leeway - they are EXTREMELY BRAINWASHED since birth. Because I’m neurodivergent the brainwashing tactics didn’t work on me and I became antizionist at great personal risk at the ripe old age of TEN back in 1999.
I my favorite story about the rejection of israel (lowercase for disrespect) The Balfour Commission vote. The only Jewish man on the commission voted no on the establishment of israel. He said why should I be asked/forced to move to a country that isn't mine. Edwin Montague.
Well you cannot blame all Jews for theactions of their fanatics even if there is a huge number, perhaps a majority of fanatics. Neither can you blame all American Christians for the actions of their fanatics even though the US has the greatest number of Christian fanatics on earth.
It is the combination of American power and money and Jewish money which creates the problems.
‘Anti-semitism’, yeah, right. How many ‘Israelis’ are actually Semitic, themselves, when 2/3 of the population of ‘Israel’ are allergic to the most prominent species of olive trees that have been growing in Palestine for thousands of years?
Absolutely correct, Palestine was so beautiful before the 1920s, people were happy, any Jews who lived there mixed with what we now think of as Palestine because those Jews were also Palestinians. Most escaped to Iran once the European Jews started moving in.
Correct, Veronica. My father lived there until the 1930s and told me beautiful stories about historic Palestine. And my grandfather raised prized Arab horses there. They lived in Haifa on the Mediterranean. Can you imagine how bucolic? ❤️
Sounds absolutely wonderful, especially when you look at it now, or rather before the recent bombings. The occupiers destroyed so much planting those blasted European fir trees where Palestinians had lived with fig trees, orange trees. Then they wonder why their trees now catch fire so easily and the ruins of former Palestinians lives poke through the ashes.
Prized arab horses sound wonderful, I would have loved to have seen them for real.
The pattern of creating, arming, and then citing the existence of the very enemies the US manufactured is not an accident. It is the business model of perpetual war envisioned by the Dulles brothers and never abandoned.
I have explained previously how Zionists love and need antisemitism.
Antisemitism also is useful to convince any Jews that waver jn their support of Israel that ethnic solidarity is their only protection, that they'll be blamed for Israel's crimes whether they support Israel or not.
Yep, the European and American diaspora are about as Semitic as Bjorn Borg and Søren Kierkegaard. It's expanded so far beyond a religion/ethnicity/race or whatever, it's just a vibe now.
Israel and the IOF have contributed more to antisemitism than anyone of any other culture, religion or nationality possibly could have done. What do they expect when they murder children, the parents of children, when they starve people, destroy hospitals always using the same worn out lies that it is Hamas, that the children they murder will grow up to be terrorists. of course people are going to hate the Israelis, especially if they have had their family members murdered by them as the attacker in Michigan had last week had 4 relatives murdered in Lebanon.
This didn’t happen in Detroit proper. It SUPPOSEDLY happened in the wealthy suburb of Bloomfield Hills, known to many of us here in the Mitten as Jewfield Hills. You thinks the cops there ain’t gonna go along with the narrative?
Disliking even hating if you want, Israel, is not anti semetic, it's impossible because they are not semetic to begin with, it's just the story they and Western governments use as an excuse to hate on people who object to the occupation of Palestine.
The Palestinians who are against Israel do not turn into terrorists they turn into resistance fighters. Just because our governments wave the terrorist flag, we should not be doing the same. Resisting is nothing like terrorism, they're fighting for their lands where their hearts and souls are deeply rooted into.
I do not either believe nor give a shit about anything pro israel people like Greenblatt and Blitzer have to say, period.
So there is that. The pro israel community rhetorically stands the most to gain by staging false flag attacks against themselves— and have done so multiple times in the past.
They can crawl on their knees begging forgiveness from every Palestinian and Arab American before I believe a single thing that they spew out their pie holes. That’s my stance.
I dont even bother wasting time with this stuff. I dont feel any obligation to prove to zionists that I dont hate Jews.
Its up to Jews to disassociate themselves from zionism and Israel, just as it was the responsibility of white South Africans, back in the day, to denounce that apartheid regime.
The Palestinians aren't "Amalek" - it's the Zionists - who persecute faithful Jews - for rightly refusing to serve in the Zionist Genocidal Forces Army. It's Jonathan Greenblatt and the Zionist power structure, who perpetuates the idea that "Jew" is a race, rather than a faith. Caitlin you're absolutely correc,t in laying the blame for violence against Jewish people in the West, on this false conflation, and narrative warfare. Zionists are the TOXIC MIMIC of faithful Jews.
Even the few debased and disgraceful Rabbis, who long ago broke with the mass of Rabbis, in their opposition to Zionism, the ones who rationalized, and compromised and thought to countenance Zionism, as an idea - they ALWAYS did so, with the proviso that there could be no theft, or murder of the Palestinians. It was with the understanding that there would be some peaceful and respectful way, to bring Jewish settlement in Palestine about. But clearly - this was NEVER the reality.
At this point the "Rabbis" of the Zionist movement, and its AbomiNation State are so far gone, that they preach Genocide, Racial Supremacist doctrines and "The Right to Rape". This MUST BE recognized as the worship of Ba'al - and NOT Judaism. And it was exactly that kind of idolatry - which led the Ancient Israelites to be EXPELLED from Palestine, to begin with ... So here we've come, full circle.
They always play the victim. Meanwhile dozens of innocent unarmed civilians were murdered by the idf cowards and thugs in Lebanon today. The idf cowards are truly Lucifer's favorite spawn. The hatred is immense. Arrest the isrehelli ICC indicated war mongering coward and thug now.
We can defund them. Americans are funding them you know, using their banks, paying taxes to the US government for chumming up with Israel. Stop paying interest. It is never included in the money supply anyway. But don't just keep the spoils that you save from that - share it 50/50 with someone you know who could be helped by that money coming in every month. Continue to pay the principle.
UK also fund them, to say we are not the size of the USA we often fund them equal to what the USA does but here it is done quietly, underhandedly if you want.
So "trafficking in hateful conspiracy theories” is what Zionists call committing an ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Palestinian people? They really are trying to muddy the waters, aren't they? They're going to cause more and more people to hate everything to do with the Jewish faith. It's entirely uncalled for. Zionist founder Theordore Herzl truly hated his own Jewishness and it shows even today through his followers.
"Zionism offered itself as the solution to anti-Semitism, but became the main reason for its continued presence."
Ilan Pappé
Israeli historian
Most American Jews are chumps. They were fooled by October 7th, and now support "Israel" more than ever. Don't know if Israeli Jews are still fooled by that betrayal, but American Jews certainly are.
And if you don't know what I am talking about then you too are a chump.
It doesn't matter if Israeli Jews were fooled, or not. They support the genocide, either way. They know that the Hannibal Directive was activated and that the IDF killed many, the vast majority imo, of Israelis on that day. Yoav Gallant confirmed that The HD was ordered. The extraordinary devastation could only be the result of high-power arms, like hellfire missiles and tank fire. They don't gaf. Any excuse to kill, destroy, plunder, rape and steal.
Correct. Many people say it took hours for Israel's military to respond, that is a lie. When Al Qassam went towards the IDF military base set amongst the occupiers houses there they filmed it all, stupid they are not. By the time Al Qassam had not long been at the base the attack helicopters were there, firing on their own people, especially those attending the festival/ dance which a Palestinian couldn't have even known about because it's date had been altered at the last moment.
Tanks arrived later but not as long as the story told and started firing on the people's houses, the footage was captured on camera.
Besides anyone with an iota of sense would know a resistance fighter with only a hand held weapon that fired bullets couldn't have taken down houses or burnt people fleeing in their cars from the festival. As sense is not common, they prefer the false narrative instead.
And don’t forget the Egyptians personally called Netanyahu ten days prior to 10/7 to warn him of a major upcoming attack. The Israelis CHOSE TO IGNORE IT. This was reported in the times of Israel a few days after, hardly an antizionist publication!
They did indeed but even Al Qassam said the Israeli's could see them rehearsing, it was a well planned break out and not impossible like so many say. I am a person who has kept up with Palestine, West Bank and Gaza through better times as well as times like now. You could tell the Israeli's were building up for a massive attack as they increased daily excursions into Gaza, in that year up until the 7th, there had been more children killed in Gaza than any previous year. Something had to be done.
I think Netanyahu let the attack carry on so that he had an excuse for what they had already planned.
I fully agree with your take - I think they at minimum were not going to let a tragedy go to waste.
Netanyahu like trump needs a war to stay out of prison, in his case for corruption.
Absolutely. Zionism is the cause of all the troubles in the ME, all the acts against Israelis is brought about by zionism. In fact I think the plan is to actually continue these attacks on Jewish institutions because the more jews are killed, the less of them zionists will have to share israeli, greater israel, and eventually not have to share any of the world with jews at all.
Zionists have used jews to get their world domination start in israel, once they have rid the world of jews by having them believe they were chosen and every other religion must become their slaves - who the hell is going to sit back and say, 'Okay, on you go, we'll be your slaves, we'll bow down to you - I your dreams, you numbnuts.'
It's quite a beautiful plan when you take it apart. Jews get blamed for being so dumb as to believe that fairy tale. The world turns against them, again. And the fools double down, or the zionists do, making everyone angry at the supremacy attitude.
Wake up! We are all being taken for a ride because the zionistgot away with causing the Nazis to exterminate all those jews during WWII, and they are unrolling the other steps in their plan. Do not let them win, call each one of them out.
And remember, you cannot be a Christian AND a zionist, ever.
To be fair, colonialism existed before Zionism was much of a thing.
Zionism is just a new word for the same thing. The shapeshifters always invent new vocabulary. What we see today is western settler colonialism, theft of resources, genocide of native humans, etc. Nothing has changed in the past 500+ years. Germany is again at the forefront of the genocides. Nazism=Zionism=Exceptionalism=western "democracy". Evil never sleeps.
Zionism is colonialism, just with a perversion of the Jewish religion attached to it.
Thaf may be, but colonialism predates the Zionist variant.
All humans with ancestry from outside sub-Saharan Africa are part Neanderthal - between 2 and 6%. Having existed for hundreds of thousands of years, Neanderthals (and other pre Homo sapiens hominids) all disappeared from any given region within 5000 of Homo sapiens entering it. Even where there is insufficient evidence of violence, we outcompeted them into extinction through technological advantage.
Given the difference in intellectual performance, these sexual relationships would very likely not be considered consensual today, even if there were elements of consent.
Essentially everyone other than 100% black people is the product of genocidal, bestial rape.
It’s been going on a while.
Good point, but at least the Ottomans and the British did not seek to erase the people already inhabiting the land.
I wasn't strictly speaking of colonialism in Palestine, but yes, the Ottomans were relatively benign towards the Palestinians.
But we (the British) did do that everywhere else we went (eg Ireland, North America, Australia… never exactly tried it in India but it was never going to work in India)
We at various times said that the Zimbabweans didn’t build great Zimbabwe and that the Egyptians didn’t build the pyramids.
I agree. Zionism has NOTHING to do with Judaism. It is simply Imperialism under a different name.
I agree but with reservations. The original impetus for the Zionist movement was many centuries of oppression and persecution experienced by the Jews of Christian Europe, culminating in the holocaust. Given that experience, it is quite understandable that European Jews would seek a home where they would not suffer under the heel of a hostile Christianity. Unfortunately, the home they chose was already occupied, and, as many Zionists saw it, those occupiers would have to be removed.
To your point, it’s true that Zionism has little, if anything, to do with Judaism as a religion, but it does relate to Jewishness as an ethnicity. In any case, there is no moral justification either in Jewish or non-Jewish ethics for the ethnic cleansing of any minority group.
Wait did you say fair? Hummmm
It's only a U.S. proxy, the way Ukraine is, the way Taiwan is. You deal with the U.S. and all other major conflicts in the world go away.
Christians invented Zionism and Herzl took the ball and ran with it.
The Zionism of Netanyahu, Smotritch and Ben Gvir dovetails precisely with the Christian Zionism of Huckabee, Hagee, Hinn and Graham.
Or, to state it another way, made antisemitism the solution to Zionism.
An entrepreneur and corporate honcho, Greenblatt and the others in those pro-Israel orgs are basically business people raking in shekels from conflict. Conflict of both overt war and also of the theatrical friction between Israel and the US. It's perverse and disgusting. Lowbrow.
Shameless shysters.
The man who attempted to bomb the Michigan synagogue was predictably and immediately labeled a terrorist. Contrast that with the deaths of hundreds of Lebanese civilians at the hands of Israel. Those will never be labeled terrorist attacks.
Hi Nancy
If that wasn’t false flag I’ll not only eat my cowgirl hats, but my six pair of cowgirl boots as well. Notice not one hair on one head of a Jew was touched?
Why would anyone who legitimately wanted to unlive people just run their vehicle into a doorway? 😂😂😂
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The Michigan synagogue-school was empty and the driver of the truck was killed. This SAME synagogue-school was used in an FBI active shooter-training weeks BEFORE this "attack."
Check out James Li's 51/49 report on this...
https://youtu.be/eziKRzqMYYA?si=Du1pDmts_1SQkP3I
I am not Antisemetic.
I am Anti Rothschilds-Epstein Class and the Greater Israel Project. To be against the War with Iran, is to fight against the ROTHSCHILD-EPSTEIN PEDOE WAR PIGS- NEVER LET THEM REST.
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I don’t think it’s a false flag because Ryan grim reported that the attackers family all died in Lebanon as a result of Israeli strikes. If I were that man I too would do terrorism in retribution! Who wouldn’t?!
The label "Terrorist" is a joke. Another tool in the kit used by Zionist Jews to demonize people who are FREEDOM FIGHTERS, fighting to stop the destruction and theft of their homelands and societies from Zionist controlled western governments. More of the same agenda to demonize innocent brown people.
Not just the zionists but the capitalists against anyone who doesn’t want to submit to capitalism.
Also the biggest terrorists in the world are the Americans an Israelis with probably a million body death count by now over the various wars started by them.
Asher:
Then wouldn’t he have been the perfect patsy?
There’s a brain in there someone, darlin. Use it.
I see what you’re saying but what would you do if Israel killed your whole family? Work for Israel on behalf of a false flag attack?! That’s doubtful! This man’s anger and desire for retribution was genuine. I think it’s a disservice to his memory and that of his family to claim his retribution was the work of his enemy.
Asher, Asher, Asher.
If that gentleman truly wanted to cause death/destruction: you don’t seriously think it’d be difficult to procure a firearm in the Detroit area, do you?
Difficult? I don’t know I’ve never tried getting a gun in Detroit or it’s surroundings. I will say that someone who just lost their whole family is not going to be thinking clearly or with much forethought or planning.
I would do the same thing that man allegedly did for the same exact reason. If israel killed my whole family I’d be seeking retribution and let’s be honest 90%+ of American Jews are proud zionists and it pains me to say this *as a jew* but they absolutely have it coming. It’s a shame but anti zionists like myself have warned our fellow Jews for decades now only to be accused of self hatred.
I would love your opinion on a program Due Dissidence. Two Jewish men who are pro Palestinian pre 1967 Palestine. Like Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate they speak about the evil history of faith and politics. Thank you. Please let me know my friend. I know what your thinking, yes I am your friend always.
Hi Landru
Yeah I do like that guy Russell (I forget the other one’s name.) They sure enough don’t hold back!
I think Russell subs on Jimmy Dore sometimes too.
But as far as pre-‘67 borders: no, no, and fuckin hell no. Jizzrael is not capable of existing among sane human beings.
Yes that's the two, Russell and Keaton. I agree with you I no longer think israel can exist. Yes they both fill in for Jimmy Dore. It's very hard to find reporting you can trust without having to fact check like Caitlin. I have a very good feeling Iran will bring peace to the world.
I support returning the borders of Palestine to where they were before the Zionist movement began.
In the end it seems Palestine will be what Palestinians want it to be. I hoping for the Nation of Palestine for all people of Peace. People returning to their homes and farms would be something for the world to see. Every missile I see hit israel is that much closer to the Nation of Palestine : )
I’m not who you commented towards but I just wanted to mention that max blumenthal made a documentary recently about Iranian Jews just before the war started that’s worth a watch, it’s on YouTube
Ever the same.
$100 bomb = terrorist
$1,000,000 missile = statecraft/job creation
Antisemitism? Who cares? 80 years of continuing support for lies, propaganda, land theft, apartheid, corruption, murder, brutal occupation, war crimes and genocide against the Palestinian people. Reap what you sow. The pathetic cynical victimhood is a laughable joke.
i care about real antisemitism. I don't think it is moral to hate someone for being Jewish. But people are getting all mixed up these days because the Israelis themselves conflate their Zionist, Nazi behaviour with Judaism. Zionism and what is happening in Israel are not part of Judaism. What is happening in Israel is a murderous colonialism called Zionism.
I second what Susan just wrote. Every religion has its extremists, and extremist interpretations that lead to all sorts of horrific consequences - the multiple Christian Crusades for example, or the 6th century Totemism of the Huns and their persecution of Buddhists.
Sadly, people will lump the Zionists in with all those who practice Judaism - maybe even subconsciously.
And then there are the Christian Zionists who are just as crazy and vile as the Jewish Zionists.
You cannot be a Christian and a zionist - the two are worlds apart.
You can be if you’re a crazy evangelical who wants to force Armageddon so Jesus returns as per prophecy. You know, like everyone who’s running america right now believes 🙁
Please check out Kasey Malone on YouTube. Wow, so much I didn't know about Zionism. I love her and you of course : )
The "Christian" Zionists are an insane cult of very sad and angry people, IMO. I wrote about them this week: https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/jesus-is-comingto-kick-genocidal
My friend, I would love to know what you think of this former Zionist, Ultra Right Christian, Kasey Malone. I love her and found a wealth of info on a topic I knew little about. Thank you friend. Please let me know what you think. Most of her audience it seems are atheists who recently left churches and haters as we see here at the Nation of Caitlin : )
I have listened to her a little bit. I watched Israelism as well and I live in a very Jewish neighbourhood with way too many Zionists in it. It takes courage for people who have been brainwashed to be Zionists to really look at it and see how it is fascist, racist, colonialist and more. I am not young either, and I was raised to see communists as bad, people of colour as suspect and being rich as the ideal to strive for. Somehow, when I was very young, I knew that being overly concerned with making money was not my thing. I had a very capitalist grandmother who put money before anything. My family was also racist which I didn't like at all. They were anti semites on top of it all. It took me a while to learn about Zionism, but I don't see it as relating much to Judaism at all. Jewish Zionists use it as do Christian Zionists: to defend their fascist thinking. Zionism is similiar to Nazism in that some people are seen as supreme while others are worth nothing. That kind of thinking needs to disappear from our world somehow.
I haven't heard of Kasey, but I will check her out. It takes a former cult-member to speak to others still in a cult to help them see what's reality and what lies they've swallowed whole. Thanks for the tip.
Christian and Zionist are conflicting terms.
These "Christian Zionists" are actually crazier, that is what is scary!
As I replied above. Kasey Malone and your hair will stand on end. I had no idea what was happening in these closed communities. You will find her on YouTube.
Jews generally conflate Jewishness / Judaism with Zionism / Israel. Most synagogues, for example, display the Israeli flag in the front of the sanctuary. Can’t really blame the rest of the world for following suit.
We can hate whom we want. So long as it's not acted on. Why are we indicting people for having emotions? Jews made that up. Jews hate Muslims but Muslims are not such sooks that they have to come up with a term that chastises anyone outside their race for it. Zionists caused the Nazis to rise, they've been behind almost all the atrocities that happened to the world for the last century.
Zionist's have caused more problems for centuries in all Western lands, the only difference back then and recent times is Zionist, which they are, hadn't been used to separate them from other Jewish people.
I would love your opinion of Due Dissidence on YouTube and Kasey Malone. Two Jewish men who tell truth and a woman who was a former Zionist coming from the Far Right Christian Zionism. Thank you.
I'll take a look, won't be tonight though, remember I'm on a different time schedule to you. 😊 I'll let you know my thoughts tomorrow sometime. .
Zionists have only existed since the 1880s.
I know which is why I said recent times is Zionist and hadn't been used to separate them from other Jewish people. Prior to that it was Jews and Ashkenazi Jews, but still the same as Zionism.
It’s not Jews and ashkenazi Jews - ashkenazis are the Eastern Europeans (I am one of them). They were the first zionists as Zionism originated there.
There’s Sephardic (Spanish / Iberian peninsula), mizrahi (Mediterranean/North African), ethopian and then much smaller sects all over the world who are NOT of European origin.
Also a fun fact - the oldest Jewish presence in the US is the Sephardics who moved to the south (I want to say modern day New Orleans but don’t quote me) during the Spanish colonial period and their existence in the Americas predates the modern US. And going along with that fun fact, Spanish was spoken before English in what is the US today. But the MAGAts failed history class.
Yes, the great majority of Jewish people in Israel are Zionists. Have seen anywhere from85 to 90%. I guess those not identifying as Zionists have already left with the Iran war.
Don't forget there are a good number of Christian Zionists in America so it gets very confusing.
Far more Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists. There are an estimated 19 million Jewish people in the world.
Susan, shut yer pie hole.
THEY ARE NOT FUCKING SEMITES.
Get it yet?
The Palestinians are!
Yes Asher.
I happen to be Palestinian-American.
I agree with you but please, everyone is entitled to express themselves. And if they make no sense, everyone is also entitled to tackle them.
There is the spice and pie : )
Landru, c’mon, you like me spicy 😉😁
It’s hard to care about real antisemitism when the zionists act like pro male soccer players feigning injury for the refs so the opposing team gets carded - and I say that as an antizionist jew.
Now that some on the far right are turning on Israel (rightfully so) I worry they’ll go protocols of Zion on it rather than the leftist stance of being against Zionism but not against Judaism.
Just wanna remind everyone Judaism is 5700 years old and Zionism is 140 years old.
Jews are just another hate group - period. They've stated and documented their agenda to demonize Muslims and Arabs in Western society. It has worked and this is why the West is in a continuous war cycle in the Middle East. They are the most successful hate group of modern day humanity. The Mossad is instrumental in their effort to spread hate, destabilize, infiltrate and destroy Arab countries. What have the Arabs and Muslim done to the west other than live on "white peoples oil"?
you are confusing Jews with Zionists. Some Jews are also Zionists. Some Christians are also Zionists.
I'm not the one confusing the two. Jews need to decide what they are. I'm saying they all support Israel/Zionism and therefore are complicit in a Genocide, yet they cry victim when called out. You need to learn to read.
I’m an antizionist jew and I’ve been screaming this at the Zionist Jews I know for 25 years now. They have zero reason to support Israel yet they tie their whole identity to it because of severe multi generational brainwashing.
Hi Pete
You kinda rock, ya know that? 😉
Notice how even the so-called pro-Palestine jews—-Finkelstein, Blumenthal, et al—- fail to call for the dissolution of the quasi-state of Jizzrael?
Thanks, and yup.
Stay cool.
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I'd go a step further and say that I'm skeptical that the Israeli Zionist plutocrats are actually even Jewish. I think they are wearing Judaism like a skin suit so they can use real Jews as body shields.
I think they may have been born to Jewish parents, but they have become so power hungry, greedy for money and cruel that they no longer think about any values that may have to do with Judaism. Christians often use their religion in the same way to shield their greed and cruelty.
I listen to two Jewish journalist/podcasters for a viewpoint that I find extremely fair and questioning. Due Dissidence. Keaton and Russell are kind, loving and caring people with knowledge of the Jewish faith and the problems of Zionism. I also listen to Kasey Malone who is now an atheist brought up in Zionism and extreme ultra right Christian community. Living in my bubble I try to find others I trust with knowledge I could never live as with Caitlin. Can you imagine a Nation of people who speak truth are, kind,caring, and loving. Please let me know if you find these sources interesting. I respect your views. Of that goes for all those who read this. Peace, I'm old so imagine you see me giving the Peace sign : )
....soooo sick of the the "antisemitic" bull shit schtick. They can and do find SOME "reason" to label anything and anyone they fancy "guilty" of "antisemitism" .... I'm pretty much sick of that shit and now ignore them or plug my ears. Whaa whaa whaa. I CHOOSE to mourn the Palestinians.
Antisemitism is another thing zionists have stolen from Arab nations. It is impossible to be from a European country and be a Semite. One has to have been born within, and have a constant heritage, of Muslim countries, definitely not from Europe.
The Iranian jews who’ve had a continuous presence in Iran for 2000 years are more Semitic than the European savage pretenders
There is a major problem with blaming Zionists for attitudes toward Jews and the problem is reality and the facts.
Israel was conceived, founded and has functioned in terrorism and atrocities for more than a century and the reality is, most Jews have not only supported it from the start they have funded it. Yes, there were some Jews, a tiny minority who rejected Israel from the start but most did not. Yes, there are growing numbers of Jews who now reject Israel as a liability but again, MOST DO NOT.
There are many intelligent, educated decent people who are followers of Judaism and I know some of them, who have always supported Israel and sent their kids on camps to learn what? How to kill Goyim and how to hate Palestinians?
They have also supported the truly evil Birthright scheme, teaching their children that they have a right to Palestine even thought they and none of their ancestors for thousands of years have ever lived there.
Jews have played a major part along with Zionists and Israelis in infiltrating Governments, politics and media throughout the Western world, to compromise the rights of citizens and to push the Israeli agenda.
So, while we must applaud the minority of Jews with ethics and principles, we cannot let Jews in general or their religion off the hook because they have played a major part in the atrocity that is Israel and the countless atrocities it has committed. It is and always has been a terrorist State founded and functioning in supremacist hatred, violence, theft and destruction. And most Jews have not only allowed that to happen they have helped it to happen.
Until a majority of Jews categorically reject and condemn Israel and all it stands for, then they and their religion will be tainted by association.
Excellent post. Most Jews support everything Israel is doing while hiding behind the worn out anti semitism shield.
It is wrong to conflate Judaism with Zionism. Period.
It is more wrong to pretend Zionism can exist without Judaism.
have you heard of Christian Zionists? They are not Jewish.
Again, Zionism cannot exist without the pre-existing condition of Judaism. Christian Zionists are supporters of a Jewish political ideology for their insane Christian reasons.
you say nothing quite authoritatively. Christian Zionists support Zionism because they think it will bring on Armageddon and then the Rapture. They don't usually support any part of Judaism. They support Zionism because their Christian bible tells them to do so. At least that is their excuse. As far as I have heard, the bible says nothing of the sort.
No shit, Sherlock. They're hate-filled bigots, which is why I used the word "insane" to qualify it. And correct, the Bible makes no mention of the bullshit they preach. That is thanks to Israeli propagandizing televangelists and Americans being uncivilized. My point still stands. Stop talking to me.
so why is Israel sitting in Palestine if it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion and its deranged God?
The fact lunatic Christians support the Zionists does not let Jews who support them off the hook.
Sorry, but the entire premise of the Israeli State of Hate is that the Jewish God gave them Palestine. The fact some deranged Christians believe the same thing is irrelevant.
That deranged Christian’s agree is not irrelevant. See how they are partnering with Israel to force Armageddon and bring back Christ? That’s why they’re at war with Iran. They’re gonna nuke Iran.
What of the Christian “Zionists” without Jews?
Sorry, please take a listen to Kasey Malone. She was a Christian Zionist. The details will shock you. Zionism is about the return of Jesus. Doesn't matter what religion is there now.
If a State claims to represent every Jew on earth and most Jews accept or even promote that claim then they are accountable for what that State does.
That is the reality. If most Jews had rejected that claim from the start they would not be stained with a century and more of terrorism and atrocities - rape, murder, torture, theft, destruction.
Germans were not allowed to say they did not know and get a free pass and in this modern age Israelis CANNOT claim they did not know and neither can their supporters. Ergo, because with modern technology there is no reason NOT TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE IN YOUR NAME, you are responsible equally for what is done in your name.
Let us not kid ourselves, if a Muslim state existed in the same way a Jewish state claims to exist and committed the same atrocities and most Muslims funded it and refused to condemn or reject it, no-one would be trying to shift the blame with words like conflate. Muslims and their religion would be held accountable and rightly so. Same for Jews.
The horrific slaughter of Israel’s foundation in 1947/48 and its 78 years of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery have been documented and anyone can find out the facts. I did 50 years ago.
Common sense says if a State or group claim to represent you and your religion you want to know EXACTLY what they do or plan to do in your name. The fact many, maybe most Jews failed to do that is not an excuse and does not let them off the hook.
The only reasonable excuse is brainwashing and I say that as a Jew who was subject to that brainwashing but because of neurodivergence it didn’t work on me.
I am not conflating, I am stating facts. If most Jews support and fund Zionism then they are joined at the hip and no need to conflate. And the reality is most Jews have always supported and funded Zionist Israel and MOST still do.
Americans support Zionism too.
May 1914, Celia Frank published the 2nd of a series of articles about Zionist Origins, in The Maccabaean, the American Zionism mouthpiece. https://archive.org/details/no5maccabaean24zionuoft/page/142/mode/2up.
Before I proceed to the quote:
It's necessary to understand their religion in an anthropological sense, because it is not "like Christianity but with different costumes". The religion permeates every aspect of their self-concept, even to the point of affecting how their culture thinks about reality. (To give one example, "Jewish wisdom" is the source of the destabilizing idea that words can alter reality, as though words operate like mystic charms; they think their rabbis argue with god and change reality).
Their very beliefs in being "a race", in having been great kingz in Jerusalem, in having wandered the desert, in having any sort of continuous attachment to Palestine for thousands of years are ALL and SOLELY religious beliefs.
Their religion has layers and is rooted not just in the Talmud, but in worship of their rabbis, in Kabbalah, and in tribal superstition and a sort of ritual-generation engine. It is not all that similar to Christianity, Islam, or any of the religions that worship stable gods. It is more like Santeria, in certain ways, and it is also like modern day cults which worship specific "messiah" figures and which we easily recognize as cults. But we are not allowed to call this tiny religion a cult, right? Therefore, the sect, not cult, of Sabbateanism in the late 1600s fed Hasidism, which became the religious powerhouse of Zionism in the 1800s. From the get-go, a full 1/3 or more of the Zionists were Hasidics; Herzl adapted his programme to them because he knew that without them he would have nothing.
When some hasbara tries to claim that "some Reform and some Orthodox rabbis were against Zionism at some point” and therefore Zionism isn't Jewish, they are trying to mystify with shoddy references, and also trying to entangle the world in their internecine squabbles as to what a good Jew does. This is none of the world's concern.
In this article, which is one of a series, Frank doesn't go so far back as to delve into Sabbateanism, but she does point in that direction.
Now to the quoting.
Here's the link again:
https://archive.org/details/no5maccabaean24zionuoft/page/142/mode/2up
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Published in 'The Maccabaean', May 1914
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ZIONIST ORIGINS
By CELIA FRANK
The follozving is the second of a series of articles tracing briefly the rise of
Modern Zionism
CHAPTER II There is no blank page between the history of Israel's past and that of the present in the Diiaspora. The persecutions of the first centuries continued into the later centuries, at times most barbarous, at others somewhat mitigated. With the last century open murder and rapine have ceased in the enlightened countries, but the demon Anti-semitism oppresses more to-day perhaps than formerly, since its methods are not open in attack. In spite of all, however. Israel miaintains steadfastly its old beliefs. Judaism has not conceded one iota of its principles, and the Jews remain today as distinct a people as in former years. The potent forces in Judaism, the idea of the restoration and the Messianic era, still continue ; only the Jews of today see more practical plans for their realization than formerly. The contrast, therefore, between the early conceptions of the Messianic era, and those developed during the centuries of itineracy which followed, with the consequent absorption of Occidental culture, is marked. The Israelites have always predisposed to fraternize with strangers, and they turned passionately toward the acquisition of Occidental culture. Is it not but natural, therefore, that the new Jewish culture should have questioned the Messianic conceptions developed in the earlier period of restlessness and mysticism? Throughout the first years of the Diaspora, the Israelites expected some miraculous intervention to put an end to the exile, and give the signal for the glorification of Israel. In the elarly opinion, the Messiah was to gather the children of Israel around him, march to Jerusalem, and there, after overcoming the hostile powers, restore the temple worship, and set up his own dominion. In their adversity and affliction they thought for the time only of the material blessings thiat might ensue, and forgot Israel's greater mission. Later, however, from fanciful and materialistic views exclusive and perhaps coarse notions of individual well-being, revenge and relief from an oppressing enemy, the hope took nobler expression in the idea of a stable, national government^ based on the principles of pure morality and lofty ideals, universal brotherhood and peace, of perfect righteousness and purest religion, God reigning in Zion, and spreading his radiance over the whole world.
Towtards the close of the 18th century, with the growing tendency toward toleration, and the influence of Moses Mendelssohn, Jewish thought was turned into new channels. The slumbering genius of the Jew was aroused and revived from its abjection. With the influence of Mendelssohn the Jewish race received its impetus for a rejuvenessence, threw off the lethargy which possessed it during the Dark Ages, and sprang from the narrow and isolated Ghettos into the world of culture. With the new Jewish culture came self-knowledge and self-respect, and gradually developed a broader race consciousness and correspondingly historical interest in Palestine. By the side of this influence came the strong sentiment of cosmopolitanism which swept over Europe the last part of the 18th century and first half of the 19th century. It was a natural reaction against the arbitrary grouping of nationalities which ignored all racial dififerences and was based simply upon political necessities. Then a counter-reaction set in. Cosmopolitan ideas were rejected as opposed to personal freedom, and there sprang- up the sordid sentiment of national exclusiveness. A desire for national solidarity made itself felt, and all dependent European nations took up the banner of national independence. The unification of Italy under Victor Emanuel, the uniting of the various Germaii principalities into a powerful nation under Bismark, the action of Switzerland, Hungary, and the various Balkan States, and the attempt of Ireland to free itself from British rule, were bound to react upon the Jews. In fact, many of them sympathized and aidded those who fought for this racial freedom. It is therefore but natural that a longing for racial freedom and communal life should have been aroused in their own hearts.
Under these influences there arose gradually, especially among* the younger generation, a sentiment in favor of Jewish national existence, which carried in its wake many of the brightest and most advanced Jews of the day. The historian Joseph Salvador as early as 1830 believed in the possibility that a congress of European powers might restore Palestine to the Jews, and the founders of the Alliance Israelite Universelle took an interest in colonizing work in Palestine. Rabbi Hirsch Kalischer of Thorn, Germiany, may be called the first practical Zionist. So early as 1836 Kalischer explained his position with regard to the repatriation of Palestine and the Messiah. He believed that the redemption would have its beginning in ta natural way, unaccompanied by miracles and wonders. There would first be required the desire of the Jews to settle in Palestine, and the assured protection of the nations in maintainine their independence. His book "Derishat Ziyyon" deals with the religious and theologiclal problems involved. He advocated the colonization of Palestine, the cultivation of land there, and the founding of an agricultural school and of a Jewish military guard. With the Jewish state and worship reestablished in Palestine, then, he believed, would God show his miracles and fulfill the promises of the Prophets. Kalischer travelled extensively in aid of these ideas ; caused the first colonization society to be established in Frankfort-on-the-Main in 1861 ; and exerted some influence in the colonizing work of Charles Netter and the founding of the agricultural school Mikweh Israel.
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(I will continue the rest of it, in a reply to this comment).
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https://archive.org/details/no5maccabaean24zionuoft/page/144/mode/2up
[please excuse typos: this is copied from a PDF and I am not correcting all character errors].
The colonization of Palestine was persistently urged. Soon Kalischer succeeded in winning many of the more modern and more cultivated over to his belief. Noted among the men whom he interested was Moses Hess, the famous socialist of his time. In the year 1862 Hess wrote his book "Rome and Jerusalem," which, in truth, may be called one of the foundation works in Zionist literature. In this book Hess maintains that the Jewsh nationality cannot be destroyed, and that if emancipation be incompatible with Jewish nationality, the Jews should renounce all claims to emancipation. He saw in the Jewish colonization of Palestine the only solution of the Jewish problem. The idea of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine gained support among some of the most orthodox rabbis ; and in several of the cities societies were founded for the purpose of studying the Hebrew language. Two years after the appearance of Hess' "Rome and Jerusalem" Heinrich Graetz published an essay in which he declared that the Jewish nation was its own Messiah, and should bring about its own rejuvenescence and redemption without waiting for the coming of a single person or redeemer. His ideas proved too radical for many of the orthodox, and his book enorendered violent conflict. David B. Dob Baer Gordon, another leader in the movement, published in his paper "HaMiaiggid" a number of articles, the first of which appeared in 1871. on the colonization of Palestine as the basis for the future regeneration of Judiasm. In the course of time the various activities developed into a strong- movement and (assumed the name of Lovers of Zion. As a result of the recrudesence of national sentiment in Europe, and the liberation of Servia, Bulgaria and Roumania, the desire for liberty grew stronger with the Jews and toward the end of the seventies in the 19th century, the national movement gained still further ground.
Through the efforts of Henry Dunant larg-e Jewish organizations such as the Alliance Israelite Universelle and the Anglo-Jewish Association in London were persuaded to take an interest in the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, but no response was forthcoming. Laboring untiringly, Dunant succeeded in founding two societies for that purpose, the International Palestine Society, and in 1876 the Syrian and Palestine Colonization Society. Attempts were made by various statesmen and financiers to interest the Turkish Sultan for the colonization of Palestine by the Jews, pleading the advantage of such projects not only to the Jews themselves, but to the Ottoman and Occidental countries. Noted among these were the attempts of Sir Moses Montefiore, as early as 1840, and those of Lawrence Oliphant in 1879 and 1882. whose plans, however, failed to evoke any response. Writers continued in their plea for Palestine's repatriation b)' the Jews. In 1879 there appeared a series of articles by Ben Yehudah proposing the colonization of the Holv Land and the gradual centralization of the Jews there : and Isaac Rulf in 1883 wrote on the same lines. In Russia the national sentiment especially called forth an enthusiastic response, and literary expression was given to national hopes by such brilliant writers as Moses Lob Lilienblum, Perez Somlenskv, and Lev Osipovitch Levanda. With the large influx of Jews into the United States the Zionist movement soon found ex pression here, and soread quickly, lii the years 1882 and 1883 Emma Lazarus wrote a stirring series of ar-
ticles pleading for an independent Jewish nationality and a Jewish home in Palestine.
The general weve of national sentiment spreading over Europe conceded at last political right to the Jews, and with the close of the 19th century the majority of the enlightened nations had accorded them political emancipation. Tiiis, however, did not grant them social equality, not only were Jews excluded from all Christian society; but Christian contempt followed them in all their pursuits. At the very time when their own dormant national feeling had been awakened, and the Jewish masses became thrilled with fervoi for Israel's restoration, the monster Anti-semitism unsheathed its sword and followed them remorselessly. From 1881 it spread from eastern Europe over the whole continent, leaving no place untouched. In Germany it gained its strongest foothold, and in a short time Austriia, France, Russia and many of the southern provinces became strong centers of AntiSemitism. Refuge was at first taken in the hope that the culture and enlightenment of the time would surely give place to broader and more sympathetic treatment. But when Antisemitism received more or less co-operation from the governments, the hope was seen to be futile.
The majority, fortunately, continued in the hope that if redress was not obtainable, surely, in the near future, the g"ap between their civil and social position would be filled. However, a few Jews of Germany, and of the capital cities in most Europeian countries proposed a solution of the vexing problem troubling them. The magnificence of the court fascinated them, the brilliance and wit of the salon drew their Jewish genius almost in spite of them and in their despondency many of the wealthier and more educated decided upon assimiliation. Apostasy thereafter became a common occurrence. Many Jewish youths and maidens, fascinated by the novel experience of aflfiliation with the great, unknown Christian world, washed in
the waters of baptism, and subsequently passed forever from Judaism A writer of the time offers consolation, with the reflection that the converts "are but chips shaved off from an unwieldly colossus ; the colossus is only strengthened by their removal." Happily, time has proven him right. The conversion to Christianity, however, did not give these proselytes the social freedom and happiness they sought. The waters of baptism did not succeed in washing off their earmarks of Semitism : nor did assimilation with the Christian peoples about them succeed in disguising their Jewish identity. Anti-semitism did not restrict itself to pursuing the isolated Jews ; it followed the assimilated also. The distinctness and individuality which they themselves denied and sought to hide, were observed, and regarded as a menace to national solidarity. Jew-baiters persisted in the view that the Jews were an obstacle in the amalgamation of the races, and the formation of homogeneous unions.
The religious sensibilities of loyal Jews became outraged by the action of their more "enlightened" brethren. Salvation began to be looked for from other quarters. Another solution was proposed. It was determined to make Judaism acceptable to the Christians; and the "Berlin religion" with its many "reforms" resulted. Some of the most sacred traditions and hopes were stricken from the reform synagogue ritual. The Hebrew language was dispensed with in the services. All references to the Messiah and Israel's restoration were omitted from the prayer-book. Judaism was declared to be wholly religious, and in no way national. It was contended that Israel's redemption lay in renouncing the hope for renationalization in Palestine, and in accepting gratefully the citizenship of the nations among whom the Jews lived : otherwise, they would be suspected of disloyalty and their position made even more miserable and unbearable. It was a critical moment for Judaism. The pious were ready to forfeit their citizenship for the retention of their cherished hope ; the reformed unhes-
itatingly relinquished the glorious ideal for political and legal enfranchisement.
This new religion naturally became the horror of the pious, and made them all the more solicitous to keep aloof from external tendencies. They clung more tenaciously to their traditions. But with the emancipation of the Jews in Germiany in 1848. the reform movement acquired new strength and became more staple and permanent. The chasm between the old and the new became greater, and a reconciliation was out of the question. The separation which has continued to this day was inevitable; but it has brought much good as well as harm in its wake. The self-defence of the reformed Jews led the conservative to seek practical methods for defence. They began to consider their position in the world their prospects as individuals and as a community, and their historic nationality sprang to the foreground.
With the acquisition of Occidental culture, political enfranchisement, and the prominence attained by Jewish magnates and statesmen, redemption began to be looked for from practical sources. The vague notions of a Messiah and a Messianic age assumed a more definite shape. The confused hope of a Messianic period imperceptibly merged into a more natural course of deliverance from present misery, and fitted itself to present-day realities. The Jews became deeply conscious that they could be helped only by themselves; that if they could not help themselves, they could not be helped at all. They came to understand that their redemption would come about by voluntary activity on their own part, with the permission and assistance of non-Jewish rulers, as, in the time of Zerubabbel and Ezra the reestablishment of the Jewish commonwealth was effected in a perfectly natural way, and insured by the great power of the world. They saw their salvation in Zionism: — that great national movement of the Jews, and understood that if it could not protect and deliver them to-day, it would be the salvation of their children.
{To he concluded.)
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[end of article.]
Okay, Mary Poppins 🙄 @ Susan T
Jews do this to themselves continuing to support Zionism when there’s all the evidence in the world out there that Zionism is an evil perversion of Judaism.
Anti zionists like myself are extremely rare although the younger generations are becoming more aware.
I’m Jewish and your comment is right on the money. I refused birthright and I’m glad I did.
It’s not a free vacation, it’s a free indoctrination trip where the Israelis hope that the young impressionable American teens fall in love with their Israeli teenage counterparts and move to Israel and make babies for the IDF. The sex angle gets a wink and a nod “no parents around! Party with the locals!”
To give American Jews a little bit of leeway - they are EXTREMELY BRAINWASHED since birth. Because I’m neurodivergent the brainwashing tactics didn’t work on me and I became antizionist at great personal risk at the ripe old age of TEN back in 1999.
Good on you and full marks to your courage.
Roslyn!
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Spot on 👍👏....excellent in thought, clarity...and writing elegance. Thank you for confronting the elephant in the room. I mirror your thinking 100%.
I my favorite story about the rejection of israel (lowercase for disrespect) The Balfour Commission vote. The only Jewish man on the commission voted no on the establishment of israel. He said why should I be asked/forced to move to a country that isn't mine. Edwin Montague.
Love that!
.....Jewish people, those you aptly describe, along with 'murKKKan Christofascists....
together comprise the greatest axis of EVIL on earth...hatred, cruelty, violence....in the name of THEIR "god"...
Well you cannot blame all Jews for theactions of their fanatics even if there is a huge number, perhaps a majority of fanatics. Neither can you blame all American Christians for the actions of their fanatics even though the US has the greatest number of Christian fanatics on earth.
It is the combination of American power and money and Jewish money which creates the problems.
‘Anti-semitism’, yeah, right. How many ‘Israelis’ are actually Semitic, themselves, when 2/3 of the population of ‘Israel’ are allergic to the most prominent species of olive trees that have been growing in Palestine for thousands of years?
Correct. Aren't Palestinians also Semitic?
Let's at least correct it to "Anti-Jewish".
Lorne: Unequivocally NO to the “also” bit.
I’m Palestinian-American. *I* am a Semite with ancestry from the Levant.
THEY are most assuredly NOT Semites. They’re motherfucking Europeans.
BTW, did you skip out on History 101? The Nakba occurred in 1948!
Absolutely correct, Palestine was so beautiful before the 1920s, people were happy, any Jews who lived there mixed with what we now think of as Palestine because those Jews were also Palestinians. Most escaped to Iran once the European Jews started moving in.
Correct, Veronica. My father lived there until the 1930s and told me beautiful stories about historic Palestine. And my grandfather raised prized Arab horses there. They lived in Haifa on the Mediterranean. Can you imagine how bucolic? ❤️
Sounds absolutely wonderful, especially when you look at it now, or rather before the recent bombings. The occupiers destroyed so much planting those blasted European fir trees where Palestinians had lived with fig trees, orange trees. Then they wonder why their trees now catch fire so easily and the ruins of former Palestinians lives poke through the ashes.
Prized arab horses sound wonderful, I would have loved to have seen them for real.
Sadly most Americans don’t know about the nakba
Palestinians are semitic, Israel with its European Jews are not. Simple as that.
No, let’s correct it to anti Israeli. Most people have a problem with the Israelis, not Jews as a whole. The zionists love to conflate the two.
Good one!
The pattern of creating, arming, and then citing the existence of the very enemies the US manufactured is not an accident. It is the business model of perpetual war envisioned by the Dulles brothers and never abandoned.
https://griobhtha1.substack.com/p/trust-nothing-they-say-the-exposed
I have explained previously how Zionists love and need antisemitism.
Antisemitism also is useful to convince any Jews that waver jn their support of Israel that ethnic solidarity is their only protection, that they'll be blamed for Israel's crimes whether they support Israel or not.
Cynical? Yes. And it works.
Feral, no Greenies for you until you stop referring to jews as “Semites “.
Yep, the European and American diaspora are about as Semitic as Bjorn Borg and Søren Kierkegaard. It's expanded so far beyond a religion/ethnicity/race or whatever, it's just a vibe now.
Those institutions are financially aiding “Israel” genocide too
Israel and the IOF have contributed more to antisemitism than anyone of any other culture, religion or nationality possibly could have done. What do they expect when they murder children, the parents of children, when they starve people, destroy hospitals always using the same worn out lies that it is Hamas, that the children they murder will grow up to be terrorists. of course people are going to hate the Israelis, especially if they have had their family members murdered by them as the attacker in Michigan had last week had 4 relatives murdered in Lebanon.
You forgot to put “attacker” in quotes.
This didn’t happen in Detroit proper. It SUPPOSEDLY happened in the wealthy suburb of Bloomfield Hills, known to many of us here in the Mitten as Jewfield Hills. You thinks the cops there ain’t gonna go along with the narrative?
Disliking even hating if you want, Israel, is not anti semetic, it's impossible because they are not semetic to begin with, it's just the story they and Western governments use as an excuse to hate on people who object to the occupation of Palestine.
The Palestinians who are against Israel do not turn into terrorists they turn into resistance fighters. Just because our governments wave the terrorist flag, we should not be doing the same. Resisting is nothing like terrorism, they're fighting for their lands where their hearts and souls are deeply rooted into.
I do not either believe nor give a shit about anything pro israel people like Greenblatt and Blitzer have to say, period.
So there is that. The pro israel community rhetorically stands the most to gain by staging false flag attacks against themselves— and have done so multiple times in the past.
They can crawl on their knees begging forgiveness from every Palestinian and Arab American before I believe a single thing that they spew out their pie holes. That’s my stance.
I hear you.
I dont even bother wasting time with this stuff. I dont feel any obligation to prove to zionists that I dont hate Jews.
Its up to Jews to disassociate themselves from zionism and Israel, just as it was the responsibility of white South Africans, back in the day, to denounce that apartheid regime.
Zionism and Judaism aren't Synonyms - THEY'RE ANTONYMS.
Zionism is a rebellion against the almighty - denounced as SATANIC, by every proper Rabbi, for more than 100 years. https://www.jewsnotzionists.com/Historical_Documents/TheRabbisSpeakOut.htm
https://youtu.be/BmFNlOEHWSM
https://youtube.com/shorts/8cG5SV_HH0E
https://youtube.com/shorts/3JCH76AfOWw
The Palestinians aren't "Amalek" - it's the Zionists - who persecute faithful Jews - for rightly refusing to serve in the Zionist Genocidal Forces Army. It's Jonathan Greenblatt and the Zionist power structure, who perpetuates the idea that "Jew" is a race, rather than a faith. Caitlin you're absolutely correc,t in laying the blame for violence against Jewish people in the West, on this false conflation, and narrative warfare. Zionists are the TOXIC MIMIC of faithful Jews.
Even the few debased and disgraceful Rabbis, who long ago broke with the mass of Rabbis, in their opposition to Zionism, the ones who rationalized, and compromised and thought to countenance Zionism, as an idea - they ALWAYS did so, with the proviso that there could be no theft, or murder of the Palestinians. It was with the understanding that there would be some peaceful and respectful way, to bring Jewish settlement in Palestine about. But clearly - this was NEVER the reality.
At this point the "Rabbis" of the Zionist movement, and its AbomiNation State are so far gone, that they preach Genocide, Racial Supremacist doctrines and "The Right to Rape". This MUST BE recognized as the worship of Ba'al - and NOT Judaism. And it was exactly that kind of idolatry - which led the Ancient Israelites to be EXPELLED from Palestine, to begin with ... So here we've come, full circle.
They always play the victim. Meanwhile dozens of innocent unarmed civilians were murdered by the idf cowards and thugs in Lebanon today. The idf cowards are truly Lucifer's favorite spawn. The hatred is immense. Arrest the isrehelli ICC indicated war mongering coward and thug now.
We can defund them. Americans are funding them you know, using their banks, paying taxes to the US government for chumming up with Israel. Stop paying interest. It is never included in the money supply anyway. But don't just keep the spoils that you save from that - share it 50/50 with someone you know who could be helped by that money coming in every month. Continue to pay the principle.
For now.
UK also fund them, to say we are not the size of the USA we often fund them equal to what the USA does but here it is done quietly, underhandedly if you want.
So "trafficking in hateful conspiracy theories” is what Zionists call committing an ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Palestinian people? They really are trying to muddy the waters, aren't they? They're going to cause more and more people to hate everything to do with the Jewish faith. It's entirely uncalled for. Zionist founder Theordore Herzl truly hated his own Jewishness and it shows even today through his followers.
According to the ADL, it's antisemitic to ''notice'' that. They say ''The noticing'' is antisemitic. The newest ''trope'' on their hit parade.
Yeah I thought “hateful conspiracy theories” seems a bit rich coming from Israel.