Pretty amazing that the ICJ overcame tremendous pressure to hammer sacred Israel for its War Crimes, its Genocide. The "spoiled child" of the West got a bad mark--finally. Israel will try to wiggle out of it anyway they can, but their foul deeds are now on the record. If not everything, it's something.
"ICJ overcame tremendous pressure .... " ? Saying that “Israel is committed to comply with International Humanitarian Law” is laughable given the apartheid state’s 75-year record of not complying.
While Israel predictably responded to the decision with more gaslighting…the U.S. responded with more sociopathic misdeeds.
Rather than cutting off all supply of weapons to Israel and charging them with genocide… they bombed the Yemenis who are trying to get the Israelis to stop implementing genocide. The U.S. also cut off funds to the UNRWA which supplies aid to refugees in Gaza. But the US still stand with the genocidal Israelis.
I think hoorahing about other people’s men fighting and dying for freedom when we can’t even the control our asswipe President is cheesy and shameful. All we do is argue about whether we’re a democracy or not from the comfort of our computers.
No argument ...we are NOT a democracy. Has not been one for hundreds of years..just the illusion of one.
The West has always been one big corporation of slave owners. The chains just got exchanged to dollar bills for all. And the minds of the people care mostly still in the mental. Chains of mythology and ideology.
Not MACHO men, but FREE, self respecting men with an old culture. They already had 9 storied high-rises with hygienic dry-toilets when NY was woodlands between rivers and part of hunting grounds for the indians.
And we can help by increasing our donations to Palestinian rescue groups, then call the WH and tell them how much you sent to offset his criminal behavior.
"And here the US government, of which I am deeply ashamed, once again does Israel's depraved, inhumane and immoral bidding."
I have spent decades trying to figure out why. Just how the fuck do we owe Israel this totally unreciprocated, unconditional support? And how did America become its vassal state rather than the other way around?
you have to bring the Swiss system; it removes key powers from politicians and the lobbies that own them. Unfortunately, most Americans are stuck into thinking the Constitution is the forever right holy book. It is not, it has many virtues and a fatal flaw: it gives all executive and legislative power to the politicians and zero such powers to the people. The Swiss used the US Constitution as model BUT added two key features:
In all levels of government the people have the power to force referendums whose results must be implemented, on ANY policy, law or article of the constitution.
In Switezland only the people can change the constitution and they have no Supreme Court like the US where the appointed "judicial priests" decide how laws and the holy Constitution havo to be interpreted. The sysem cut the politicians down to size, they become true servants of the people, an the lobbies become powerless, all of them; the Israeli lobpy, the NRA's, Big Pharma. Big Farm, Big Guns, Big Health, Big Insurance, etc., become toothless.
But the Swiss got the system the same way blacks got civil rights, the people ended the Vietnam war; by protesting and protesting and protesting. until the elected politicans gave in.
The other thing the Swiss did is push power and decision making down close to the people. In the Swiss system municipalities. states have as much power as they can handle, only what they do not want to do goes federal.
The result? Learn about the Swiss political system and help make Americans aware (Canadians and the rest too)
I don't think they are, but if they do because the government so decides but the people want to stop it, they can. They can also decide by referendum to help Israel, or the Palestinians
Are they still sending Israel money weapons and support? I would have thought in these countries that are mostly made up of a coherent people and government would be in sync, not just lap dogs the the USrAel imperialism psycopathy
I can’t believe Biden did this. Jesus they should be cutting Israeli funding. So I wonder what Israel has on the US. We all know about the Nazi scientists and intellectuals and high ranking Nazi leaders and how they were smuggled out and relocated. Can’t be that. Maybe be know the Swiss banking acct numbers or where the works of art are. Who knows but it is something because I can’t believe the US supports the erasure of the Palestinians. I am confused at this and as an American incredibly embarrassed.
Israel accusing everybody under the sun as being antisemitic, including the ICJ, is tiresome, tawdry and counter productive for their failed cause.
When politicians become ridiculous all you can do is mock them and laugh in their face. I for one strongly support the ICJ ruling. I guess that makes me antisemitic.
Calling other people names is a pretty good indication you have lost the argument. Meanwhile Israel and the US are doing a magnificent job turning themselves into global pariah states.
Bread making is a hobby of mine and I will continue making some of the world's best Challah bread. All challengers welcome .
The ICJ response from Israel's mouthpieces. ANTISEMITIC
We have seen the Israelis 'dining out' on "The Holocaust" since 1945 until even in their mind it has lost its punch after its theatrical promotion for so long.
Their current evils in Gaza has now taken that off the marketing campaign slogans.
Time to find a new marketeer and theme song.
We have seen Israeli museums pop up all around the globe, not established by the indigenous peoples of those countries, but through moneyed Jews working for "the cause", a.k.a. . "from the river to the sea".
Same photos, same themes, same everything produced free by Hollywood's Jewish senior impresarios for maximum effect...... at no cost, of course.
We have seen antiSemitic used as a weapon in every country on every day in some way or other, even squeezed into law as a great crime in some places, just to win an Israeli ribbon and a bit of financial support, in case the cunning Governor or Mayor or political aspirant ever decided run for political office. The first thing you do in such cases. Grade 1 Grovelling.
(Look at RFK jnr. Too late in his case. He is now well known for what he has become.)
An Israeli puppet.
All good stuff. Copying the Goebbels marketing successes in the days of the Third Reich.
The term, when uttered by Israeli politicians, basically means nothing at this point. Antisemitism is a real phenomenon for sure, but its meaning and potency have been severely damaged by Israel.
The ICJ ruling will be used by Nations as a Causus Belli to Justify Bilateral Embargoes, Sanctions, Blockades, etc. The fact that 'it cannot be enforced by a UN Army' or that 'The Court has no Body to Impose said Will onto others' is irrelevant. This Ruling is basically the Torch being Lit:
'Israel' will now find itself increasingly isolated on the world stage & hit from all sides on the Economy & Trade side of things. Add in the inevitable Fleeing & Retreat of US forces from Iraq & Syria, & we get an obvious picture of what comes next for the so called 'Jewish State:'
Demographic Implosion due to Mass emigration. Especially once the IRGC's Heavier Strike Weapons are deployed closer to the Zionist entity (all but guaranteed due to American retreat).
The only nations that matter are the nearby Arab & Muslim states. Public Anger in said countries will eventually force even the Most Docile American Puppets to take Action.
This ruling by the ICJ (when that time comes) will be used as a Causus Belli.
Europe is fundamentally irrelevant; as it has no sovereignty & is a vassal to the USA!
They (Arab leaders) are puppets propped up by NATO. The Europeans are either sycophants (Stoltenberg, Sunak) or ones that are obviously bought and paid (Baerbock) or even probably blackmailed (Schøltz, Macron).
Blowing up that pipline slapped the EU st round for no other reason then to also them around..like all abusive bullies any small excuse to get what they want will be used to beat up on its victims...American zi0paths hate the EU people. Matter fact they hate everyone..Zionist especially despise everyone they can not subvert and control..this is why they hate Arabs China and Russia as well as Ukraine as they put them aganst Russia ..
No way, Kudjoe. Israel is too well organised; too entrenched in media and large organisations; too many years at bribing and corrupting their way forward.
Their trade mark.
When the Jewish kingdom of God's own, King Netanyahu on the throne, finally becomes a casualty, it will take years to remove the stain evident by the numbers of hanger's on, thick on the ground. Without someone having the courage to institute a McCarthy-type un-American investigation, it will take years to diminish and fade away.
It is almost laughable to think that in the 1950's, Communism was seen as a danger.
Compared to Zionism and Jewish corruption, it was a tiny misdemeanour.
A different world then.
For every good Jewish person, the kind of Jew that Caitlin praised so enthusiastically prior to the Israel / US war on Palestine, the kind we have all met at some time in our lives,, there must now be over aone hundred who are have now been conditioned to the false idea that they are special, hate anyone from any Arab country and who have learnt to use their false, self promoted superiority, coupled with graft and corruption, when needed, to achieve their aims.
During this time, they are the ones who have to change, not the estimated 310 million people who allowed them into the US as citizens so many years ago. You know the time, back in the days when the USA had a Constitution that was untouched by the likes of Bush; a document that people respected and that was seen as worthy by most of the world. Now somewhat tattered and ignored by those in the White House who have disregarded the original intent therein as they became hegemonic power grabbers and damn the rest of humanity.
The 2024 election with both the candidates listed as at this date being worthy of public disdain and who do not deserve a single supportive vote to secure four more years of the same management as we have all seen....for far too long.
The world is sick of what they represent and what they have done to so many others.
"The 2024 election with both the candidates listed as at this date being worthy of public disdain and who do not deserve a single supportive vote to secure four more years of the same management as we have all seen....for far too long."
The 2024 election is merely a charade to get anybody they can to believe that the United States is a Democracy and your vote counts. When in reality, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.
It's only the UK, Germany, and the US left on that bandwagon, and mounting political and economic pressure in both the UK and Germany will change that too.
I disagree with your assessment and overly optimistic prediction. I doubt very much how much of an impact this ruling will have. No one knows for sure. Only time will tell.
I'm sure there are people way more knowledgable and experienced than me on both sides of the aisle - the optimistic ones and the pessimistic ones. I wonder what a realist like John Mearsheimer would make of the consequences of the decision.
Remember, this is as much the US's fight as it is Israel's (at least it seems so from the way the US have been behaving). Good luck trying to go against the US. The world is not ready for that yet.
I can only pray and wish that you are right and I am wrong!
I spent most of the day listening to Independent show - expert reactions (Grayzone, Judge Neapolitan, etc.) and the consensus: the ICJ ruling will have considerable impact - although it does not seem to obvious right now. There will be a number of legal repercussions right out of the gate, and the judgement - though it will be obviously vetoed in the Security council in the following days - will ratchet up the pressure on Israel and the US considerably. The details of the different rulings were particularly explicit - even naming names within the Israeli cabinet. Which will add more fuel to the growing dissension within Israel right now - at least among the political parties there.
I hope you are right jamenta! Pardon me for saying this - but I DO NOT WANT the state of Israel to exist (at least in its current form). Am I evil for saying this? Am I an anti-semite? Zionism is a CANCER and must be eliminated from the planet (though realistically speaking I know this will be impossible).
I no longer believe Israel has a moral right to exist - but that does not mean I believe they should be wiped off the face of the map. But I do believe it would be justified to no longer allow them to have a State in the middle of Palestine - that the world would be justified on insisting they leave the land they took by force. That they have forfeited their right of statehood because of their crimes against humanity. Which history will show in the years ahead - was an ethnic cleansing, genocide.
However, my opinion (and yours probably) doesn't really amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. But it's nice to be able to vent somewhere - without being censored by a bunch of deep state run - corporate shitheads (like twitter and youtube).
I don't believe in the slaughter of innocent civilians - even if they're military is actively committing a genocide in their country's name.
When Oct 7th happened, I was sickened by what I saw and what the Hamas did. And I wrote about it here in Caitlin's comments section.
I would have been more supportive if Hamas had only targeted their open air prison guards - the Israeli military. Not innocents.
It's hard to see how this will all play out. A lot of world leaders will not be world leaders once this is all over - assuming there is a world left and this thing doesn't escalate out of hand - which is a distinct possibility - given Israel appears to have no inclination yet of stopping. And even if they stop, what then? How will the world react? They won't be able to take back what they've already done. The cat is out of the bag - and the obscenity of what they have done will be before the world in perpetuity.
Thanks Susan T! I will check it out. I need all the optimism that I can get! And, I love Electronic Intifada! I find stuff there that I have not seen anywhere else - they do some really good analysis (IMHO).
Bigger picture is easier to find, but details are harder - I especially like their videos about Hamas's military strategies, usage of tunnels, other resistance strategies, etc.
I tend to be as cynical as you on all this because I can see the deeper sickness that has taken over mankind in the form of its duplicity and greed based psychopathy for power and control of others..
I focus more on psycological asspects of human behaviors because I see it as the foundational reasons we as a species are so fucked up and heading for our own manifest extinctions event.
I'll add one more thing.
No one playes the game of duplicity as dirty as the Zionist,, They have had well over 80 years practice honing the skills of deception while most other people have not gotten out of their childhood sand box. And the creation of the scarlet letters "A" accusation formed as a weapon has been used as A kryptonite to weaken their adversary'a and shield them from accoutability.
Most of the verbal battles I get into with the likes of people like "Russian bot" are perfect representations of what I'm talking about.
One good thing is that Uganda disavowed its own judge on the ICJ for her votes that pretty much absolved the Bloody Red Rabbi Israel. The more the international institutions follow the empire’s dictates, the more they are exposed as the useless fuck wits they are. NATO, the U.N., the ICC under Bush, and now the IJC.
Very well said Ahnaf! Thank you for your insight! Israel and no one else is now responsible for wiping Israel off the map. Just like you said it's over - I can't help but wonder if it were all not intentional. Did Netanyahu deliberately destroy and take Israel down with him? None of this makes any sense whatsoever - there was no way anything positive was going to come of this. It was a complete and total suicide mission. I wondered if Netanyahu could seek political asylum in Russia - did he sell out to Putin? There are things we know for certain. There is no way in hell there was a security lapse on Oct 7th. We know Israel was warned repeatedly. We know the IDF and not Hamas was responsible for the vast majority of people killed on October 7th. We know this is about "Greater Israel" - the Ben Gurion Canal project and the Gaza Marine gas field off the coast of the Gaza Strip. We know this is about the worlds next super power, trade and the shipping lanes. We know while the rest of the world was busy supplying Ukraine with arms and money, China, Russia and the Middle East were all doing the exact opposite and building up rather than depleting their supplies - giving them an enormous advantage once war does inevitably break out. Therefore you cannot tell me all of this was not in fact deliberate and brilliantly planned.
The Crusader state in Palestine lasted about a century. That is the longest possible lifespan of Israel now. Americans, no matter how vicious our government can be, are fundamentally decent people who are mostly horrified by what they see coming out of Gaza.
BDS will come to America, probably noticeably in the next year or two, and it will win. It will take a few years, maybe even a decade, but it'll win. The South African solution of majority rule is now the only way to end this twisted Zionist experiment, and the Israelis themselves, once American support dries up, will embrace that solution over the alternatives.
Israel will not exist in 2048. It may not even make it to 2030, but I think that's a best case scenario.
"Ben Gvir also tweeted “Hague Schmague” immediately after the ruling was issued, which will probably go down in history as the most Israeli tweet of all time."
Quite. Genocidal toddlers who don't get their way tend to start calling other people and places silly names. I'm just surprised Ben Gvir didn't say they were "poo-poo heads" or some other sort of three year old curse word.
But this revelation just made my day: "The U.N. General Assembly now can suspend Israel from participation in its activities as it did for South Africa and Yugoslavia. It can admit Palestine as a full member. And — especially since the International Criminal Court has been a farce — it can establish a tribunal to prosecute the highest level officials of the Israeli government, both civilian and military.”
I would be enjoyable to see someone call them out on playing the antisemitic card. It is truly insulting to real victims of it. This is a farce. Israel has deployed the DARVO strategy quite frequently
2. When confronted with evidence, the abuser then attacks the person that was abused (and/or the person's family and/or friends) for attempting to hold the abuser accountable for their actions, and finally
3. The abuser claims that they are actually the victim in the situation, thus reversing the positions of victim and offender. It often involves not just playing the victim but also victim blaming
When teaching an analysis class using sayings from around the world, one in particular struck me: "He hit me, then cried and ran to complain." Sounds very much like what's going these days.
After a 15 to 2 judicial decision in regard to the required remedial action to prevent Genocide in Gaza, the argumentade by Usrael in regard to anti-semetism makes virtually the whole world, represented by these judges, anti-semetic.
How Ridiculous could Israel get, as if their defence wasn't pathetic and irrational enough.
Yes, the entire world are vile antisemites including the Jews who have marched in protest to the war, holding up signs : Not in Our Name. They’ve tried to speak out and MSM has of course done their best to ignore them.
Watched quite a few Independent news shows today and a number of expert Independent pundits (not the no longer believable corporate bullshit) - the opinions I heard (unanimously) were the ICJ ruling was an historic judgement - will be a significant blow, and will have a significant impact on Israel moving forward. The judgement will offer increased legitimacy to those who claim Israel is committing a genocide - and will cause more and more politicians to think about covering their asses as the continuing daily massacre of innocents begins to unravel - which it will. Israel will not be able to sustain itself - it is losing, and will lose the propaganda war that is so vital to keep up the illusion of Israel's supposed moral uprightness. I think this ruling by the ICJ is the beginning of an inevitable pendulum swing (of doom) against the genocidal acts of Israel.
This should include the U.S.'s participating in the genocide. There's more than complicity there.
Genocide Joe and Blinkin and the head of the U.S. military are being sued for genocide in a U.S. Federal Court. I was nearly sure that the U.S. DOJ will cripple this case, but I'm surprised the court even accepted it. The pressure on it would have been great.
There is likely something I don't know about this. Biden's DOJ acts like it has very little sway over the actions of state actors like Texas Abbot and his maniacal murderous private army or DeSantis's private army.
I don't know. Can this one case against Genocide Joe in a U.S. Federal Court be a domino because of the ICJ ruling?
How much inertia is needed to bring the whole row down. I suppose it depends on the layout of the pieces.
I would love that to be the case. As an American, I've never been more ashamed of my citizenship than now. But I'm too old (and poor) to really change where I live. It's good to see the new generation of American youth are mostly against the genocide and are seeing through the corporate mass media lies. The rebellion of youth - is always a perennial hope to break the ossification of old men - usually old white corrupt men. But then, Hilly was nothing to write home about either.
I hear you. I've checked into moving to Portugal, because it turns out that on our measly income we could afford it. Not in Lisbon of course and this was 3 years ago.
I'm wondering, because I keep reading of people like us moving to Portugal, if the expat community is starting to drive up prices yet. It did in Costa Rico is it? Because to many flooded there because it was affordable and beautiful.
Now my health sucks, but if it gets better and the prices haven't been driven up were going by hook or by crook. They have a large expat community. English speaking too, though I'm for learning the language. How exciting is that?
That's the spirit. During the Bush slippery slope I "radicalizes" and began my exit plans. My wife and I have moved to a quiet Portuguese town just in time to watch the EU succumb to covid then Russo-mania. The language is tough, the people are lovely, and the internet is fast and inexpensive.
gypsy - don't give me any ideas. I got enough problems right now - moving to another country would probably do me in. I'm fine in Idaho. I'm old enough now where nobody notices when I take my walks ...
I'm turning 73 in a month and my Damn health hit the bed these past two years. But we have to hope. I can't even fly anymore, but I'll take a boat. I just hope my body cooperates.
I was waiting for someone to bring up "murdeous" or even "genocidal" Abbott. So, now National Guard is a private army. Yeah, abolish states and give Bidenopolous dictatorship powers. Shitlibs would love nothing more than that.
That won't work so well in a 40.2% Latino, 39.8% white state. The constitution makes it quite clear that immigration is in the hands of the federal government. If the States want to challenge that, it necessarily means their challenge will be through extrajudicial means.
Most of these governors are lawyers. They know that. The question is whether they are serious or not. I'd also tell those governors who stand for Texas that if they actually cared about the invasion, they would pass eVerify laws to make it impossible for illegals to live and work in their states.
It leaves me completely bereft and anesthetized when I read numbers and days. As if they are mere figures racked up like points. Does anyone respect that every number is an actual human life most likely a child? That every day calculates into hours of starvation. All these numbers get tossed around like a football. Everyone regurgitates them 10,000 - 12,000 - 15,000. Thirty days, sixty days, 100 days.
All I think about is that it's over for these people. No one is coming to save them. It's all nothing but talking points. We'll know the courts decision "three weeks". Does anyone understand how many lives three weeks is? I want to scream at the top of my lungs, three weeks? These people are down hours and minutes - three weeks for them is death. There is no waiting - it's now or never. No one is coming.
To harbor all of this is now futile. These people are no longer victims but rather martyrs. They didn't die in vain but rather exposed and destroyed both the US and Israel. The world now see's the truth.
It's hard to bear witness to. Some of the vignettes coming out of Al Jazeera news - there was this one haunting story where this little girl had lost her parents and her leg, but still remained hopeful and on camera - said she wanted to eventually walk again with a prosthetic leg, and become a doctor. A few days later, she was subsequently blown to bits by an Israeli tank-shell fired into the hospital.
I do think however that here in the US - because of the stranglehold the corporate mass media has over the country right now - Americans are not fully aware of how much the world is against this ongoing genocide - and there have been significant protests all over the world. And that the growing isolation of the US and Israel on the world stage is profound and that the lies and moral depravity are becoming more and more exposed. I don't think this will continue on much longer - either the conflict will escalate, or Israel (or the US) will self-implode politically.
Well said - I read about the girl. I bring this conversation up with everyone to make sure people are aware.
I too agree it's a matter of time before this escalates. With the upcoming election you know it's now inevitable and will most likely be used to circumvent it. They'll be a false flag to invoke Martial Law. I would look for Kerry/Clinton to surface in a time of war against Trump. The world is on the precipitance of changing drastically. No more USA hegemony and Israel is about to be blown off the map. I wound also look for reimplementation of the draft. Either that or Nuclear warfare. It's here - this is all about the worlds next super power. The shipping lanes, trade, the gas fields and the Ben Gurion canal. It will be the USA, Israel and Europe versus CHINA - RUSSIA and the Middle East! With everything being depleting (sent to Ukraine) you can now say buh-bye to the USA - Israel and Europe. I believe Putin lured everyone into the war in Ukraine to now win the world world in the Middle East. Just my opinion but it seems to me China Russia and the Middle East are at a huge advantage.
I don't really see Putin as the evil guy - but rather the out-of-control US MIC and deep state powers. But it does very much look as if the world is on the verge of an escalation no one will be able to stop.
Although I'm not a big fan of violence as a means to an end, it's hard not to agree with you Gypsy. If you follow the historical breadcrumbs - it seems pretty darn obvious that it is the West that is the main culprit of the human devastation there.
Without a doubt. The level of US propaganda for the Ukraine war was really unbelievable - they tried so hard to make Russia the cause of the problem when in reality they (the US) had plans for Ukraine literally for decades now.
gypsy33: the "protecting his own people against the atrocities committed against them in the Donbass" is an extremely small reason for his invasion. That is mostly just PR.
The real reasons go much deeper and have a longer history - it mostly revolves around NATO, protection of Russian sovereignty, and great power politics. (Of course, it also has so many other components to it like economics, energy resources, trade, etc.)
If you listen to our media Putin is evil. If you listen to his speeches he's not. The man is very articulate and certainly has a much greater command of the English language than our imbecilic Presidents
I refuse to see a single lost Palestinian as a “statistic”. They had names. They had hopes and dreams. They had families. They died for the “sin” of wanting independence of the most brutal, murderous regime on the planet.
I so agree Gyps! It hurts me to the core when they group them together as nothing more than statistics. Can we just please stop - can we have some respect?
"Everyone’s arguing about whether or not the ICJ’s ruling is helpful, and I don’t know enough one way or the other to be sure either way ..." - at the very least it contributed to diminishing the value of antisemitism charge Israel was triggered to bleat out once again.
Very interested to hear Eylon Levy’s opinion on this after, in response to being asked whether Israel would abide by any ruling, he said it was a preposterous question based on a hypothetical that would never happen because the claim was so outrageous…maybe time to ask him again?
Has anyone noticed that, almost at the same time of the ICJ ruling, most western news agencies and outlets started circulating the news that UNRWA was investigating Israeli allegations of some of its employees' involvement in the 7 October Hamas attack?
Not only that, but also the US State Department immediately suspended its funding to UNRWA just on the base of these allegations, with the EU Commission considering taking similar actions. Nevertheless it looks like both US and EU are not considering any action following the ICJ ruling. The usual hypocrisy and double/triple-standard of the declining Western empire.
Getting a quote from the national security minister in Jerusalem is literally getting a quote from Heinrich Himmler if you want to load up the hate against a captive population in a sentence.
Yes but the problem is behind Mr “Himmler”Gvir are even worse: the Zionist neocons who hold the power of the U.S. government and who in 2022 KNOWINGLY unleashed the forces of murderous hatred in Israel, such as him and his group:
I have much respect for Francis Boyle’s opinion. I have no respect for Israel, Netanyahu, etc. or US Biden, or UK for ignoring genocide of Palestinians, over 11000 children murdered in Gaza. I’m pleased with decision of recognizing Israel’s genocide.
I don't agree. The ICJ ordered Israel to do a number of things, including everything in its power to ensure that acts of genocide do not occur, and expressly mentioned the killing of the protected group. They also ordered humanitarian aid to be allowed in. It's not possible to do either of those without Israel stopping what they are, and have been, doing.
When Jimmy Dore starts sounding this crazy and off his rocker, but still makes sense -- almost, then you know the world is going through some transformation that we don't yet clearly see.
“The Left & Right MUST UNITE To Defeat The Oligarchy!” – Jimmy Dore
I'm an American rooting for Russia to win in Ukraine.
I'm an American lauding China's BRI
I'm an American wishing the BRICS all the best in their de-dollarization campaign
I'm an American cheering the Houthis defeat of the US Navy in the Red Sea
I'm an American who, with great regret, prefers the criminal Trump (who will end the Ukraine war) become President over the criminal Biden. I am sickened that there are no other options.
How can I still identify as an American? I oppose everything America is doing.
The Oligarchy, why do so few use that word or recognize its existence, must be destroyed.
John Z, I do understand the American dilemma, your dilemma. I feel sorry for most Americans who -when they have an array of choices in the flavour of their ice cream - do not have much choice in choosing their representatives. ( If it's any consolation, it is fast becoming the norm in other so called democracies too ). I am not trying to weasel out of anything.I don't think Biden is better - both Biden and Trump are odious.
In no way am I saying Trump is a "good guy". He's probably lying, but every day, Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan and the stupid people currently in the White House confirm to me that Trump will be a better (horrible) choice.
Please don't come back with "West", or "Greens" or whatever. Those are not viable options. I am not giving you the Luxury of avoiding the Trump or Biden question. I'm not saying "vote for Trump" or "vote for Biden".
Just to make it crystal clear, you MUST choose Trump or Biden to answer the question I'm asking. There is no other choice.
And I never "said" you did. However, I was clear in my original post and clarified it in my response to you that you MUST choose Trump or Biden to answer my question.
I didn't say vote for either one. I didn't say anything about their character.
I didn't say the two-party system works. I didn't say we can't work for an alternative.
But you want to ignore the question I'm asking.
Yes, it is like asking "would you rather be run over by a bus or a train?" But there it is. That's what I'm asking.
Pretty amazing that the ICJ overcame tremendous pressure to hammer sacred Israel for its War Crimes, its Genocide. The "spoiled child" of the West got a bad mark--finally. Israel will try to wiggle out of it anyway they can, but their foul deeds are now on the record. If not everything, it's something.
"ICJ overcame tremendous pressure .... " ? Saying that “Israel is committed to comply with International Humanitarian Law” is laughable given the apartheid state’s 75-year record of not complying.
https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2024/01/does-any-sane-person-believe-israel-complies-with-international-law/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=does-any-sane-person-believe-israel-complies-with-international-law
The ICJ should go hard on Israel.
While Israel predictably responded to the decision with more gaslighting…the U.S. responded with more sociopathic misdeeds.
Rather than cutting off all supply of weapons to Israel and charging them with genocide… they bombed the Yemenis who are trying to get the Israelis to stop implementing genocide. The U.S. also cut off funds to the UNRWA which supplies aid to refugees in Gaza. But the US still stand with the genocidal Israelis.
Yemen....the next genocide I fear!
The Collective West has already committed genocide in Yemen.
The and the Yemeni know this and will not go down without a fight. The bravest, bravest people on the entire globe
Macho men, Aya! And apparently scored a direct hit on a British ship yesterday!
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I think hoorahing about other people’s men fighting and dying for freedom when we can’t even the control our asswipe President is cheesy and shameful. All we do is argue about whether we’re a democracy or not from the comfort of our computers.
No argument ...we are NOT a democracy. Has not been one for hundreds of years..just the illusion of one.
The West has always been one big corporation of slave owners. The chains just got exchanged to dollar bills for all. And the minds of the people care mostly still in the mental. Chains of mythology and ideology.
With all my due respect, ...
Not MACHO men, but FREE, self respecting men with an old culture. They already had 9 storied high-rises with hygienic dry-toilets when NY was woodlands between rivers and part of hunting grounds for the indians.
Happened. Were have u been?
And we can help by increasing our donations to Palestinian rescue groups, then call the WH and tell them how much you sent to offset his criminal behavior.
"And here the US government, of which I am deeply ashamed, once again does Israel's depraved, inhumane and immoral bidding."
I have spent decades trying to figure out why. Just how the fuck do we owe Israel this totally unreciprocated, unconditional support? And how did America become its vassal state rather than the other way around?
you have to bring the Swiss system; it removes key powers from politicians and the lobbies that own them. Unfortunately, most Americans are stuck into thinking the Constitution is the forever right holy book. It is not, it has many virtues and a fatal flaw: it gives all executive and legislative power to the politicians and zero such powers to the people. The Swiss used the US Constitution as model BUT added two key features:
In all levels of government the people have the power to force referendums whose results must be implemented, on ANY policy, law or article of the constitution.
In Switezland only the people can change the constitution and they have no Supreme Court like the US where the appointed "judicial priests" decide how laws and the holy Constitution havo to be interpreted. The sysem cut the politicians down to size, they become true servants of the people, an the lobbies become powerless, all of them; the Israeli lobpy, the NRA's, Big Pharma. Big Farm, Big Guns, Big Health, Big Insurance, etc., become toothless.
But the Swiss got the system the same way blacks got civil rights, the people ended the Vietnam war; by protesting and protesting and protesting. until the elected politicans gave in.
The other thing the Swiss did is push power and decision making down close to the people. In the Swiss system municipalities. states have as much power as they can handle, only what they do not want to do goes federal.
The result? Learn about the Swiss political system and help make Americans aware (Canadians and the rest too)
TheSwissPoliticalSystem.com
Are the Swiss helping Israel? Litmus test .
I don't think they are, but if they do because the government so decides but the people want to stop it, they can. They can also decide by referendum to help Israel, or the Palestinians
But are they stopping it as a nation and people?
Are they still sending Israel money weapons and support? I would have thought in these countries that are mostly made up of a coherent people and government would be in sync, not just lap dogs the the USrAel imperialism psycopathy
I can’t believe Biden did this. Jesus they should be cutting Israeli funding. So I wonder what Israel has on the US. We all know about the Nazi scientists and intellectuals and high ranking Nazi leaders and how they were smuggled out and relocated. Can’t be that. Maybe be know the Swiss banking acct numbers or where the works of art are. Who knows but it is something because I can’t believe the US supports the erasure of the Palestinians. I am confused at this and as an American incredibly embarrassed.
Israel accusing everybody under the sun as being antisemitic, including the ICJ, is tiresome, tawdry and counter productive for their failed cause.
When politicians become ridiculous all you can do is mock them and laugh in their face. I for one strongly support the ICJ ruling. I guess that makes me antisemitic.
Calling other people names is a pretty good indication you have lost the argument. Meanwhile Israel and the US are doing a magnificent job turning themselves into global pariah states.
Bread making is a hobby of mine and I will continue making some of the world's best Challah bread. All challengers welcome .
The ICJ response from Israel's mouthpieces. ANTISEMITIC
We have seen the Israelis 'dining out' on "The Holocaust" since 1945 until even in their mind it has lost its punch after its theatrical promotion for so long.
Their current evils in Gaza has now taken that off the marketing campaign slogans.
Time to find a new marketeer and theme song.
We have seen Israeli museums pop up all around the globe, not established by the indigenous peoples of those countries, but through moneyed Jews working for "the cause", a.k.a. . "from the river to the sea".
Same photos, same themes, same everything produced free by Hollywood's Jewish senior impresarios for maximum effect...... at no cost, of course.
We have seen antiSemitic used as a weapon in every country on every day in some way or other, even squeezed into law as a great crime in some places, just to win an Israeli ribbon and a bit of financial support, in case the cunning Governor or Mayor or political aspirant ever decided run for political office. The first thing you do in such cases. Grade 1 Grovelling.
(Look at RFK jnr. Too late in his case. He is now well known for what he has become.)
An Israeli puppet.
All good stuff. Copying the Goebbels marketing successes in the days of the Third Reich.
But it is time to try something new
Contrarian, they GOT nuthin else except that tired old “antisemitism “ trope!
The term, when uttered by Israeli politicians, basically means nothing at this point. Antisemitism is a real phenomenon for sure, but its meaning and potency have been severely damaged by Israel.
I challenge you to to a taste-off against my Amish sweet bread, Robert 😉
Who knows breaking bread together could save the world! Wars are the total, ultimate, terminal FU.
They need to make absolutely certain that non-Zionist Jews remain in place as human shields.
The ICJ ruling will be used by Nations as a Causus Belli to Justify Bilateral Embargoes, Sanctions, Blockades, etc. The fact that 'it cannot be enforced by a UN Army' or that 'The Court has no Body to Impose said Will onto others' is irrelevant. This Ruling is basically the Torch being Lit:
'Israel' will now find itself increasingly isolated on the world stage & hit from all sides on the Economy & Trade side of things. Add in the inevitable Fleeing & Retreat of US forces from Iraq & Syria, & we get an obvious picture of what comes next for the so called 'Jewish State:'
Demographic Implosion due to Mass emigration. Especially once the IRGC's Heavier Strike Weapons are deployed closer to the Zionist entity (all but guaranteed due to American retreat).
Don’t be so quick to underestimate the hypocrisy of the Europeans and the NATO colonialists.
They isolated the Russians in sport for example :
https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/67663582
But the same hypocrites won’t do it to Israel.
The only nations that matter are the nearby Arab & Muslim states. Public Anger in said countries will eventually force even the Most Docile American Puppets to take Action.
This ruling by the ICJ (when that time comes) will be used as a Causus Belli.
Europe is fundamentally irrelevant; as it has no sovereignty & is a vassal to the USA!
They (Arab leaders) are puppets propped up by NATO. The Europeans are either sycophants (Stoltenberg, Sunak) or ones that are obviously bought and paid (Baerbock) or even probably blackmailed (Schøltz, Macron).
Blowing up that pipline slapped the EU st round for no other reason then to also them around..like all abusive bullies any small excuse to get what they want will be used to beat up on its victims...American zi0paths hate the EU people. Matter fact they hate everyone..Zionist especially despise everyone they can not subvert and control..this is why they hate Arabs China and Russia as well as Ukraine as they put them aganst Russia ..
Zionist play very very dirty..always have..
No way, Kudjoe. Israel is too well organised; too entrenched in media and large organisations; too many years at bribing and corrupting their way forward.
Their trade mark.
When the Jewish kingdom of God's own, King Netanyahu on the throne, finally becomes a casualty, it will take years to remove the stain evident by the numbers of hanger's on, thick on the ground. Without someone having the courage to institute a McCarthy-type un-American investigation, it will take years to diminish and fade away.
It is almost laughable to think that in the 1950's, Communism was seen as a danger.
Compared to Zionism and Jewish corruption, it was a tiny misdemeanour.
A different world then.
For every good Jewish person, the kind of Jew that Caitlin praised so enthusiastically prior to the Israel / US war on Palestine, the kind we have all met at some time in our lives,, there must now be over aone hundred who are have now been conditioned to the false idea that they are special, hate anyone from any Arab country and who have learnt to use their false, self promoted superiority, coupled with graft and corruption, when needed, to achieve their aims.
During this time, they are the ones who have to change, not the estimated 310 million people who allowed them into the US as citizens so many years ago. You know the time, back in the days when the USA had a Constitution that was untouched by the likes of Bush; a document that people respected and that was seen as worthy by most of the world. Now somewhat tattered and ignored by those in the White House who have disregarded the original intent therein as they became hegemonic power grabbers and damn the rest of humanity.
The 2024 election with both the candidates listed as at this date being worthy of public disdain and who do not deserve a single supportive vote to secure four more years of the same management as we have all seen....for far too long.
The world is sick of what they represent and what they have done to so many others.
"The 2024 election with both the candidates listed as at this date being worthy of public disdain and who do not deserve a single supportive vote to secure four more years of the same management as we have all seen....for far too long."
The 2024 election is merely a charade to get anybody they can to believe that the United States is a Democracy and your vote counts. When in reality, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.
It's only the UK, Germany, and the US left on that bandwagon, and mounting political and economic pressure in both the UK and Germany will change that too.
(For those interested)
If you wish to read (& listen!) to more of My commentary, here is my Main Stack:
https://thefallofthewest.substack.com
Thank You Kindly to everyone!
I disagree with your assessment and overly optimistic prediction. I doubt very much how much of an impact this ruling will have. No one knows for sure. Only time will tell.
I'm sure there are people way more knowledgable and experienced than me on both sides of the aisle - the optimistic ones and the pessimistic ones. I wonder what a realist like John Mearsheimer would make of the consequences of the decision.
Remember, this is as much the US's fight as it is Israel's (at least it seems so from the way the US have been behaving). Good luck trying to go against the US. The world is not ready for that yet.
I can only pray and wish that you are right and I am wrong!
I spent most of the day listening to Independent show - expert reactions (Grayzone, Judge Neapolitan, etc.) and the consensus: the ICJ ruling will have considerable impact - although it does not seem to obvious right now. There will be a number of legal repercussions right out of the gate, and the judgement - though it will be obviously vetoed in the Security council in the following days - will ratchet up the pressure on Israel and the US considerably. The details of the different rulings were particularly explicit - even naming names within the Israeli cabinet. Which will add more fuel to the growing dissension within Israel right now - at least among the political parties there.
I hope you are right jamenta! Pardon me for saying this - but I DO NOT WANT the state of Israel to exist (at least in its current form). Am I evil for saying this? Am I an anti-semite? Zionism is a CANCER and must be eliminated from the planet (though realistically speaking I know this will be impossible).
I no longer believe Israel has a moral right to exist - but that does not mean I believe they should be wiped off the face of the map. But I do believe it would be justified to no longer allow them to have a State in the middle of Palestine - that the world would be justified on insisting they leave the land they took by force. That they have forfeited their right of statehood because of their crimes against humanity. Which history will show in the years ahead - was an ethnic cleansing, genocide.
However, my opinion (and yours probably) doesn't really amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. But it's nice to be able to vent somewhere - without being censored by a bunch of deep state run - corporate shitheads (like twitter and youtube).
Yes, and what I meant when I said that Israel should no longer exist - I meant the state and the Zionist ideology (and not the people).
Yes - we must be careful of not falling into the trap of becoming the evil we oppose. Which is the trap Israel has fallen into.
I don't believe in the slaughter of innocent civilians - even if they're military is actively committing a genocide in their country's name.
When Oct 7th happened, I was sickened by what I saw and what the Hamas did. And I wrote about it here in Caitlin's comments section.
I would have been more supportive if Hamas had only targeted their open air prison guards - the Israeli military. Not innocents.
It's hard to see how this will all play out. A lot of world leaders will not be world leaders once this is all over - assuming there is a world left and this thing doesn't escalate out of hand - which is a distinct possibility - given Israel appears to have no inclination yet of stopping. And even if they stop, what then? How will the world react? They won't be able to take back what they've already done. The cat is out of the bag - and the obscenity of what they have done will be before the world in perpetuity.
Idaho.
You can do a lot with potatoes. So sue me.
"best " .
This might help, unless you have already listened to it https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/special-livestream-decision-icj
Thanks Susan T! I will check it out. I need all the optimism that I can get! And, I love Electronic Intifada! I find stuff there that I have not seen anywhere else - they do some really good analysis (IMHO).
Bigger picture is easier to find, but details are harder - I especially like their videos about Hamas's military strategies, usage of tunnels, other resistance strategies, etc.
That article says a whole lot of nothing.
It's the related video that you have to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e5SmSy99Iw
I tend to be as cynical as you on all this because I can see the deeper sickness that has taken over mankind in the form of its duplicity and greed based psychopathy for power and control of others..
I focus more on psycological asspects of human behaviors because I see it as the foundational reasons we as a species are so fucked up and heading for our own manifest extinctions event.
I'll add one more thing.
No one playes the game of duplicity as dirty as the Zionist,, They have had well over 80 years practice honing the skills of deception while most other people have not gotten out of their childhood sand box. And the creation of the scarlet letters "A" accusation formed as a weapon has been used as A kryptonite to weaken their adversary'a and shield them from accoutability.
Most of the verbal battles I get into with the likes of people like "Russian bot" are perfect representations of what I'm talking about.
One good thing is that Uganda disavowed its own judge on the ICJ for her votes that pretty much absolved the Bloody Red Rabbi Israel. The more the international institutions follow the empire’s dictates, the more they are exposed as the useless fuck wits they are. NATO, the U.N., the ICC under Bush, and now the IJC.
Very well said Ahnaf! Thank you for your insight! Israel and no one else is now responsible for wiping Israel off the map. Just like you said it's over - I can't help but wonder if it were all not intentional. Did Netanyahu deliberately destroy and take Israel down with him? None of this makes any sense whatsoever - there was no way anything positive was going to come of this. It was a complete and total suicide mission. I wondered if Netanyahu could seek political asylum in Russia - did he sell out to Putin? There are things we know for certain. There is no way in hell there was a security lapse on Oct 7th. We know Israel was warned repeatedly. We know the IDF and not Hamas was responsible for the vast majority of people killed on October 7th. We know this is about "Greater Israel" - the Ben Gurion Canal project and the Gaza Marine gas field off the coast of the Gaza Strip. We know this is about the worlds next super power, trade and the shipping lanes. We know while the rest of the world was busy supplying Ukraine with arms and money, China, Russia and the Middle East were all doing the exact opposite and building up rather than depleting their supplies - giving them an enormous advantage once war does inevitably break out. Therefore you cannot tell me all of this was not in fact deliberate and brilliantly planned.
If anyone gives Satanyahu asylum, it will be the United Snakes…just as we did with the Shah after his rightful overthrow.
you're so funny - sometimes I have to read them twice
The Crusader state in Palestine lasted about a century. That is the longest possible lifespan of Israel now. Americans, no matter how vicious our government can be, are fundamentally decent people who are mostly horrified by what they see coming out of Gaza.
BDS will come to America, probably noticeably in the next year or two, and it will win. It will take a few years, maybe even a decade, but it'll win. The South African solution of majority rule is now the only way to end this twisted Zionist experiment, and the Israelis themselves, once American support dries up, will embrace that solution over the alternatives.
Israel will not exist in 2048. It may not even make it to 2030, but I think that's a best case scenario.
No one will win in a nuclear exchange - especially Israel.
"Ben Gvir also tweeted “Hague Schmague” immediately after the ruling was issued, which will probably go down in history as the most Israeli tweet of all time."
Quite. Genocidal toddlers who don't get their way tend to start calling other people and places silly names. I'm just surprised Ben Gvir didn't say they were "poo-poo heads" or some other sort of three year old curse word.
But this revelation just made my day: "The U.N. General Assembly now can suspend Israel from participation in its activities as it did for South Africa and Yugoslavia. It can admit Palestine as a full member. And — especially since the International Criminal Court has been a farce — it can establish a tribunal to prosecute the highest level officials of the Israeli government, both civilian and military.”
YEAH!!!!! #EndTheGenocide #FreePalestine!
Hi RC
I just hope this eventually comes back to bite ByeDone on the ass, if he ain’t croaked off by then.
That genocidal toddler Ben Gvir….is sponsored by more powerful genocidal toddlers like Stuart Seldowitz, Blinken, Sullivan, Kirby, Nuland, and co.
I would be enjoyable to see someone call them out on playing the antisemitic card. It is truly insulting to real victims of it. This is a farce. Israel has deployed the DARVO strategy quite frequently
Well said!
DARVO:
1. The abuser denies the abuse ever took place.
2. When confronted with evidence, the abuser then attacks the person that was abused (and/or the person's family and/or friends) for attempting to hold the abuser accountable for their actions, and finally
3. The abuser claims that they are actually the victim in the situation, thus reversing the positions of victim and offender. It often involves not just playing the victim but also victim blaming
When teaching an analysis class using sayings from around the world, one in particular struck me: "He hit me, then cried and ran to complain." Sounds very much like what's going these days.
Appreciate you clearing that up. I made my comment in haste and did not consider someone could benefit from a short explanation.
I think it's a book already written many years ago called "Holocaust, Inc.," by Norman Finkelstein.
After a 15 to 2 judicial decision in regard to the required remedial action to prevent Genocide in Gaza, the argumentade by Usrael in regard to anti-semetism makes virtually the whole world, represented by these judges, anti-semetic.
How Ridiculous could Israel get, as if their defence wasn't pathetic and irrational enough.
Yes, the entire world are vile antisemites including the Jews who have marched in protest to the war, holding up signs : Not in Our Name. They’ve tried to speak out and MSM has of course done their best to ignore them.
Watched quite a few Independent news shows today and a number of expert Independent pundits (not the no longer believable corporate bullshit) - the opinions I heard (unanimously) were the ICJ ruling was an historic judgement - will be a significant blow, and will have a significant impact on Israel moving forward. The judgement will offer increased legitimacy to those who claim Israel is committing a genocide - and will cause more and more politicians to think about covering their asses as the continuing daily massacre of innocents begins to unravel - which it will. Israel will not be able to sustain itself - it is losing, and will lose the propaganda war that is so vital to keep up the illusion of Israel's supposed moral uprightness. I think this ruling by the ICJ is the beginning of an inevitable pendulum swing (of doom) against the genocidal acts of Israel.
This should include the U.S.'s participating in the genocide. There's more than complicity there.
Genocide Joe and Blinkin and the head of the U.S. military are being sued for genocide in a U.S. Federal Court. I was nearly sure that the U.S. DOJ will cripple this case, but I'm surprised the court even accepted it. The pressure on it would have been great.
There is likely something I don't know about this. Biden's DOJ acts like it has very little sway over the actions of state actors like Texas Abbot and his maniacal murderous private army or DeSantis's private army.
I don't know. Can this one case against Genocide Joe in a U.S. Federal Court be a domino because of the ICJ ruling?
How much inertia is needed to bring the whole row down. I suppose it depends on the layout of the pieces.
I would love that to be the case. As an American, I've never been more ashamed of my citizenship than now. But I'm too old (and poor) to really change where I live. It's good to see the new generation of American youth are mostly against the genocide and are seeing through the corporate mass media lies. The rebellion of youth - is always a perennial hope to break the ossification of old men - usually old white corrupt men. But then, Hilly was nothing to write home about either.
I hear you. I've checked into moving to Portugal, because it turns out that on our measly income we could afford it. Not in Lisbon of course and this was 3 years ago.
I'm wondering, because I keep reading of people like us moving to Portugal, if the expat community is starting to drive up prices yet. It did in Costa Rico is it? Because to many flooded there because it was affordable and beautiful.
Now my health sucks, but if it gets better and the prices haven't been driven up were going by hook or by crook. They have a large expat community. English speaking too, though I'm for learning the language. How exciting is that?
I'm living there now. Bem-vindo!
Love it. We're happy for you.
That's the spirit. During the Bush slippery slope I "radicalizes" and began my exit plans. My wife and I have moved to a quiet Portuguese town just in time to watch the EU succumb to covid then Russo-mania. The language is tough, the people are lovely, and the internet is fast and inexpensive.
Don't be too sure about Portugal.............I don't think it wants anymore Americans. There are not enough houses there for their own people.
Oh yes, I was afraid that was going to happen before I could get there. It happened on Costa Rico.
I don't blame you one bit. If not for getting better health care alone. If I were 20 years younger, I would leave.
Jamenta, you’re never too old for ANYTHING!
Everyone tells me I’m “too old” to get another horse. Guess what…come spring I’m gonna start lookin’!
gypsy - don't give me any ideas. I got enough problems right now - moving to another country would probably do me in. I'm fine in Idaho. I'm old enough now where nobody notices when I take my walks ...
I'm turning 73 in a month and my Damn health hit the bed these past two years. But we have to hope. I can't even fly anymore, but I'll take a boat. I just hope my body cooperates.
Jamenta, we’re thinking Mexico. Very affordable and I do speak some Spanish. And I absolutely love Mexican people and their culture.
Specifically, a town where my daughter’s fiancé’s brother lives. They visit frequently and are smitten with it.
Sad that so many people are now considering leaving the US. This country has really been so corrupted - it's unbelievable. :(
Here is the recording of the arguments and testimony on the court website:
https://www.uscourts.gov/cameras-courts/defense-children-international-palestine-v-biden
Thanks
Really, this is great, Joy in HK
Okay, so now you want to take Abbott & DeSantis to task? As a sideline to Gaza?
Maniacal? Murderous? What evidence qualifies these adjectives?
These are ALLEGATIONS, serious ones, and dubious on their face.
If you have something, put it up.
I'm sorry, I know the rules of decorum on substack are more commonly observed than on X, and I appreciate that deeply, but seriously...
You can get the fvck on outta here with that bvllsh*t.
I was waiting for someone to bring up "murdeous" or even "genocidal" Abbott. So, now National Guard is a private army. Yeah, abolish states and give Bidenopolous dictatorship powers. Shitlibs would love nothing more than that.
Put it to a vote to the people of Texas. States have rights. That’s how we got abortion completely legalized here in Michigan; a vote of the people.
That won't work so well in a 40.2% Latino, 39.8% white state. The constitution makes it quite clear that immigration is in the hands of the federal government. If the States want to challenge that, it necessarily means their challenge will be through extrajudicial means.
Most of these governors are lawyers. They know that. The question is whether they are serious or not. I'd also tell those governors who stand for Texas that if they actually cared about the invasion, they would pass eVerify laws to make it impossible for illegals to live and work in their states.
It leaves me completely bereft and anesthetized when I read numbers and days. As if they are mere figures racked up like points. Does anyone respect that every number is an actual human life most likely a child? That every day calculates into hours of starvation. All these numbers get tossed around like a football. Everyone regurgitates them 10,000 - 12,000 - 15,000. Thirty days, sixty days, 100 days.
All I think about is that it's over for these people. No one is coming to save them. It's all nothing but talking points. We'll know the courts decision "three weeks". Does anyone understand how many lives three weeks is? I want to scream at the top of my lungs, three weeks? These people are down hours and minutes - three weeks for them is death. There is no waiting - it's now or never. No one is coming.
To harbor all of this is now futile. These people are no longer victims but rather martyrs. They didn't die in vain but rather exposed and destroyed both the US and Israel. The world now see's the truth.
It's hard to bear witness to. Some of the vignettes coming out of Al Jazeera news - there was this one haunting story where this little girl had lost her parents and her leg, but still remained hopeful and on camera - said she wanted to eventually walk again with a prosthetic leg, and become a doctor. A few days later, she was subsequently blown to bits by an Israeli tank-shell fired into the hospital.
Here is a link to the story: https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-killing-children-in-gaza
I do think however that here in the US - because of the stranglehold the corporate mass media has over the country right now - Americans are not fully aware of how much the world is against this ongoing genocide - and there have been significant protests all over the world. And that the growing isolation of the US and Israel on the world stage is profound and that the lies and moral depravity are becoming more and more exposed. I don't think this will continue on much longer - either the conflict will escalate, or Israel (or the US) will self-implode politically.
Well said - I read about the girl. I bring this conversation up with everyone to make sure people are aware.
I too agree it's a matter of time before this escalates. With the upcoming election you know it's now inevitable and will most likely be used to circumvent it. They'll be a false flag to invoke Martial Law. I would look for Kerry/Clinton to surface in a time of war against Trump. The world is on the precipitance of changing drastically. No more USA hegemony and Israel is about to be blown off the map. I wound also look for reimplementation of the draft. Either that or Nuclear warfare. It's here - this is all about the worlds next super power. The shipping lanes, trade, the gas fields and the Ben Gurion canal. It will be the USA, Israel and Europe versus CHINA - RUSSIA and the Middle East! With everything being depleting (sent to Ukraine) you can now say buh-bye to the USA - Israel and Europe. I believe Putin lured everyone into the war in Ukraine to now win the world world in the Middle East. Just my opinion but it seems to me China Russia and the Middle East are at a huge advantage.
I don't really see Putin as the evil guy - but rather the out-of-control US MIC and deep state powers. But it does very much look as if the world is on the verge of an escalation no one will be able to stop.
Jamenta, I see Putin as a hero, protecting his own people against the atrocities committed against them in the Donbass by the Ukrainazis.
Although I'm not a big fan of violence as a means to an end, it's hard not to agree with you Gypsy. If you follow the historical breadcrumbs - it seems pretty darn obvious that it is the West that is the main culprit of the human devastation there.
Without a doubt. The level of US propaganda for the Ukraine war was really unbelievable - they tried so hard to make Russia the cause of the problem when in reality they (the US) had plans for Ukraine literally for decades now.
That's the way I see it as well Same things were said about Assad There's a reason both men have a 80%+ approval rating
gypsy33: the "protecting his own people against the atrocities committed against them in the Donbass" is an extremely small reason for his invasion. That is mostly just PR.
The real reasons go much deeper and have a longer history - it mostly revolves around NATO, protection of Russian sovereignty, and great power politics. (Of course, it also has so many other components to it like economics, energy resources, trade, etc.)
If you listen to our media Putin is evil. If you listen to his speeches he's not. The man is very articulate and certainly has a much greater command of the English language than our imbecilic Presidents
Hi BJ
I refuse to see a single lost Palestinian as a “statistic”. They had names. They had hopes and dreams. They had families. They died for the “sin” of wanting independence of the most brutal, murderous regime on the planet.
I so agree Gyps! It hurts me to the core when they group them together as nothing more than statistics. Can we just please stop - can we have some respect?
these thoughts plague me also
It's sickens me - it's akin to watching a burning building and no one extinguishing it
"Everyone’s arguing about whether or not the ICJ’s ruling is helpful, and I don’t know enough one way or the other to be sure either way ..." - at the very least it contributed to diminishing the value of antisemitism charge Israel was triggered to bleat out once again.
Very interested to hear Eylon Levy’s opinion on this after, in response to being asked whether Israel would abide by any ruling, he said it was a preposterous question based on a hypothetical that would never happen because the claim was so outrageous…maybe time to ask him again?
Has anyone noticed that, almost at the same time of the ICJ ruling, most western news agencies and outlets started circulating the news that UNRWA was investigating Israeli allegations of some of its employees' involvement in the 7 October Hamas attack?
Not only that, but also the US State Department immediately suspended its funding to UNRWA just on the base of these allegations, with the EU Commission considering taking similar actions. Nevertheless it looks like both US and EU are not considering any action following the ICJ ruling. The usual hypocrisy and double/triple-standard of the declining Western empire.
I talk about this here: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/us-and-eu-ignore-icj-ruling-and-focus
Getting a quote from the national security minister in Jerusalem is literally getting a quote from Heinrich Himmler if you want to load up the hate against a captive population in a sentence.
Yes but the problem is behind Mr “Himmler”Gvir are even worse: the Zionist neocons who hold the power of the U.S. government and who in 2022 KNOWINGLY unleashed the forces of murderous hatred in Israel, such as him and his group:
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kach_(political_party)
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/05/nyregion/fbi-raids-brooklyn-office-of-kahane-followers.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/20/us-removes-ultranationalist-israeli-group-from-terror-list
https://www.state.gov/revocation-of-five-foreign-terrorist-organizations-designations-and-the-delisting-of-six-deceased-individuals-as-specially-designated-global-terrorists/
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/05/20/2022-10828/in-the-matter-of-the-designation-of-kahane-chai-and-other-aliases-as-a-foreign-terrorist
Nicely put
The victimhood rhetoric and calling everyone you disagree with anti-semitic, racist, sexist, etc. is not even funny anymore.
Either a significant proportion of the world’s population are Nazis and act like Hitler or there is a significant population of NPCs.
Except it’s mainly the zionists doing this. not everybody.
I have much respect for Francis Boyle’s opinion. I have no respect for Israel, Netanyahu, etc. or US Biden, or UK for ignoring genocide of Palestinians, over 11000 children murdered in Gaza. I’m pleased with decision of recognizing Israel’s genocide.
I don't agree. The ICJ ordered Israel to do a number of things, including everything in its power to ensure that acts of genocide do not occur, and expressly mentioned the killing of the protected group. They also ordered humanitarian aid to be allowed in. It's not possible to do either of those without Israel stopping what they are, and have been, doing.
When Jimmy Dore starts sounding this crazy and off his rocker, but still makes sense -- almost, then you know the world is going through some transformation that we don't yet clearly see.
“The Left & Right MUST UNITE To Defeat The Oligarchy!” – Jimmy Dore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHT9XxrwJI
I mean,
I'm an American rooting for Russia to win in Ukraine.
I'm an American lauding China's BRI
I'm an American wishing the BRICS all the best in their de-dollarization campaign
I'm an American cheering the Houthis defeat of the US Navy in the Red Sea
I'm an American who, with great regret, prefers the criminal Trump (who will end the Ukraine war) become President over the criminal Biden. I am sickened that there are no other options.
How can I still identify as an American? I oppose everything America is doing.
The Oligarchy, why do so few use that word or recognize its existence, must be destroyed.
John Z , you are a rare breed - the good American. But I agree with bill wolfe 'except for Trump".
OK.
Then like Wolfe you prefer Biden.
It is a one or the other question.
You can't weasel out of it (like Wolfe tried to) by telling me how evil Biden is.
Now why do you think Biden "better"?
John Z, I do understand the American dilemma, your dilemma. I feel sorry for most Americans who -when they have an array of choices in the flavour of their ice cream - do not have much choice in choosing their representatives. ( If it's any consolation, it is fast becoming the norm in other so called democracies too ). I am not trying to weasel out of anything.I don't think Biden is better - both Biden and Trump are odious.
I'm with you on all these issues, except for Trump.
Why would you prefer Biden.
Trump (says he) will end the war in Ukraine.
In no way am I saying Trump is a "good guy". He's probably lying, but every day, Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan and the stupid people currently in the White House confirm to me that Trump will be a better (horrible) choice.
Please don't come back with "West", or "Greens" or whatever. Those are not viable options. I am not giving you the Luxury of avoiding the Trump or Biden question. I'm not saying "vote for Trump" or "vote for Biden".
Just to make it crystal clear, you MUST choose Trump or Biden to answer the question I'm asking. There is no other choice.
I never wrote that I "prefer. Biden". I LOATHE Biden.
Get your head out of electoral politics and the two party system.
Here are some folks you might want to get involved with, instead of your BS about "no alternative":
https://refusefascism.org
And I never "said" you did. However, I was clear in my original post and clarified it in my response to you that you MUST choose Trump or Biden to answer my question.
I didn't say vote for either one. I didn't say anything about their character.
I didn't say the two-party system works. I didn't say we can't work for an alternative.
But you want to ignore the question I'm asking.
Yes, it is like asking "would you rather be run over by a bus or a train?" But there it is. That's what I'm asking.
I imagine Wolfe speeding away from the question in a skoolie at a whooping 40mph with his ears plugged to claim he didn't hear it.